Christian Defends God’s Law to Burn Daughters Alive

Added: 2026-05-12

[00:00:00]We'll bring up Tone. I think Tone said you got your Oh, my bad. Tone, I invite you to mute. You You're muted, Tone.

[00:00:08]You with us?

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[00:00:19]>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:00:20]>> There we go. Okay.

[00:00:21]>> You muted me back. Wow. It's >> My bad. My bad. Yeah. I was I was trying to do the I think we just hit the button right at the same time. So, my bad. All right. So, God is not evil. What's your evidence?

[00:00:32]>> It's okay.

[00:00:41]>> Oh, >> yeah. It sounds like you're um So, sorry to interrupt, but your uh Yeah, your Wi-Fi is like in a blender. So, >> yeah. So, maybe try to find a different spot that's a little bit better. Can you eat?

[00:00:57]>> I'm getting like every third word. So, >> okay. Okay.

[00:01:00]>> All right. Here. I'll I'll meet you again and I'll bring I'll bring the next Okay. Okay.

[00:01:06]>> Oh, please don't fall. [laughter] >> Please don't get hurt. I'm not worth it.

[00:01:13]>> Uh, no. [laughter] >> Not fall.

[00:01:15]>> Okay. Yeah.

[00:01:16]>> Yeah, man. Don't break a leg or nothing like that. Just trying to talk to me.

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[00:01:23]>> No, I just I No, man. because I want to I want to answer the I want to answer the question. You know what I'm saying?

[00:01:29]I want I want to answer the question. I want to be able to >> Okay. I want to be able to answer the question and and I guess maybe help some people.

[00:01:40]>> All right. All right. Let's see what happens. All right. So, evidence that God is not evil. What do you got? Yeah.

[00:01:44]Let's try it. Let's give it a shot.

[00:01:49]>> Okay. So, God is the lion and the lamb.

[00:01:53]So, in a sense of just, you know, dumbing down for all of us, even me, um, cuz I ain't no better than nobody. A lion, when he gets ready to devour something, he's not going to plague with it. He's going to kill it and eat it.

[00:02:07]Okay, that's it. A lamb, you have to you have to basically protect the lamb, you know, do things for the lamb, you know, guide it, this, that, and the third. You know what I'm saying? Um so answering that question with that is with that now another another point is that far as it says in scripture that his thoughts are not our thoughts his ways are not our ways.

[00:02:39]So in a bit of what I've been listening to I feel like people or we I going to say people I don't say people I'm say me me as people is that the fact that we have to understand that we can't we can't even famine what he feels thinks or wonders. We can't famine that. So, the question of knowing if he's a a a a god where he's a god where he's going to uh destroy just because or not destroy just because that'll be that'll be a neverending conversation. This will be a never- ending conversation basically.

[00:03:26]>> So, what I'm here, let me jump in, tone, let me jump in, tone. So what I'm hearing then is what you're saying is since since uh God is the lion and the lamb and we cannot fathom what God thinks or what God knows then uh we can't call this God evil. Is that what I'm hearing?

[00:03:47]>> No, no, no, no, no. I I didn't say he's not evil. What I'm saying is this. Okay.

[00:03:51]I I put it in this gesture. You got kids?

[00:03:54]>> Yeah, I got kids.

[00:03:56]>> All right. Just says me. All right. So I mean just as I I'm sorry. So certain certain things my kids are not going to understand at the a my daughter I'm going put prime example she's going to get ready to graduate thank God uh on Tuesday. So even by her graduating and knowing just the similar things of life as growing up, you know, doing the things that teenagers, some some of what grown people do depending on who she's hanging around, which I know, but still, you know what I'm saying? The things they talk about this, that, and the third, right? But but because she does not know how to navigate through life, she's going to she's going to have to ask me or whomever that she trusts how to navigate through life. Correct.

[00:04:48]>> Okay. Let me Can I ask you a question?

[00:04:50]Or when you're >> Yes, sir.

[00:04:52]>> Okay. Or you want to land on the plane real quick?

[00:04:55]>> Oh. Oh. Um >> or is there something you want to add?

[00:04:58]>> If you need me if you if you if you need me to. I don't I don't >> Oh, no. If there's something you want to add. Yeah. I just I just want to sneak I just got a question and I want to you know >> Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead with the question.

[00:05:09]>> All right.

[00:05:10]>> So then if if you're because if I also heard what you're saying is uh yeah I got kids and so your daughter's about to graduate and there was things that she did and there are things that you had to discipline her for and she's not going to understand everything. Is is that the is that the gist I'm getting?

[00:05:29]>> Okay.

[00:05:29]>> Pretty much. Yes.

[00:05:30]>> Okay. Would it be would it be loving and good for you to kill your daughter to punish her?

[00:05:38]>> No, we can't we can't go to the extreme.

[00:05:40]>> You're going you're going to you're going to the No. Okay. First of all, no.

[00:05:44]No, no, no. Let me take that back because this is your this is this is your panel. I'm not I'm not telling you what you can't do. What I'm saying is >> you can you can criticize it. It's fine.

[00:05:53]I I'll take I can take criticism. That's fine. You can say, "Hey, you're going to extreme. That's not that's not what I'm saying." Yeah. No, no, you can do that.

[00:05:59]That's fine.

[00:06:01]>> Yeah.

[00:06:01]>> Okay. Okay. So, so I think I think okay what I'm saying is this but to just to just to jump on just that what you just said now if my daughter okay for instance if I found my if I walked in the house and my daughter was having sex with a guy would I would I beat would would I beat her or would I talk to her?

[00:06:22]>> Well, of course I'm going to do I'm not going to beat her.

[00:06:26]>> Okay. I'm definitely going to talk to her, but in a manner in a matter of of as if I am whooping her because at the end of the day, if I don't do anything, the world will the world is not going to love her like how I love her. The world is not going to give her chances after chances like I would.

[00:06:47]>> Okay?

[00:06:47]>> You know what I'm saying?

[00:06:48]>> If you were if if you caught your daughter prostituting herself, would you would you light her on fire?

[00:06:55]>> [clears throat] >> I would whoop my daughter's ass. I wouldn't set her on fire.

[00:07:00]>> Okay. No, >> but you would you wouldn't set her on fire. Okay.

[00:07:04]>> No.

[00:07:04]>> But you would you probably put belt to ass. That's what I'm hearing.

[00:07:09]>> Yes. Yes, sir.

[00:07:10]>> Okay. Okay. So then why then? Okay.

[00:07:15]>> Go ahead. Go ahead.

[00:07:16]>> Well, my question then is then if that now would it be would it be morally good for you to set her on fire?

[00:07:24]Let's say she's running she's running a little brother out of your out of her bedroom and you caught her doing that.

[00:07:29]You know, >> she got John's coming in there this and that and the third >> and you caught that. Um would it be >> uh would it be morally good for you to light her on fire?

[00:07:45]>> It would be morally good for me to discipline her.

[00:07:48]>> Yeah. I'm talking about lighting her on fire, though. Would it be morally good for you to do that?

[00:07:53]No, it won't be morally good for me to do that. No.

[00:07:56]>> Okay.

[00:07:57]>> That's that's just a that's a question that everybody would I mean you wouldn't even do that to your own daughter.

[00:08:01]>> I would not do that to my daughter. Not in a not in a thousand trillion.

[00:08:08]No, I'd never ever do that.

[00:08:10]>> Okay. So then in that case then why is there a Mosaic law that allows fathers to light their daughters on fire if they're prostitutes?

[00:08:22]Well, I Well, I'm g say this. I I'm not that historical deep. So, I wouldn't I wouldn't be able to answer that. So, so my but my objective for that is is this in different countries different you know Yeah. different countries they have or their beliefs are different just like just like in certain cities if people go to jail. It's people still go to jail and they stay in jail for the wrong things and they and and they'll never get out just because of for one what for what one person have done and and we and me and you didn't talked about that because that was our first conversation when I spoke to you. So my my objection to to all this is this [clears throat] as our God to our father I look at him and think of him because like I said our his our thoughts are not his thoughts I respect him to the manner of as my earthly father because that's what the Bible says. The Bible says to honor thy mother and thy father and you shall live. So, so within being so within saying that it's it's more so like I basically what I just said I for what the topic is I just don't believe that God is sitting up there toying with us just because I believe that there are certain things that once again we can't think to famine to wonder why certain things are happening or why they happening. But then in the same breath, good things happen within the same manner.

[00:10:09]>> So we can we can we can all >> I got to be honest with you, Tone. I'm sorry. I got to jump in. It's been like a minute and a half, but I got I got to jump in because it doesn't really answer my question.

[00:10:19]>> I'm because here's the here's the here's the Mosaic law right above my head.

[00:10:22]Leviticus 21:9. So when the daughter of a priest profains herself through prostitution, she profains her father.

[00:10:28]He she shall be burned to death. This is from God, right? Okay. Well, this is this is the Old Testament.

[00:10:34]>> This is the Old Testament.

[00:10:35]>> The Old Testament, not Old Test Old Testament. Old Testament and New Testament. See that? That's that's a whole totally different that's a whole totally different story.

[00:10:43]>> Perfect. So, >> are you saying then, Tone, that it is in some situations it is morally good to burn your daughter to death when she is when you find when she profains herself through prostitution?

[00:10:55]>> No. No. What I'm saying is this. The reason why the reason why No. No. No.

[00:11:01]No. Okay, let me but let me let me and I I'm going to shut up after this because I believe in my in my belief that this would that this will answer that when when God when g when Jesus came when God made Jesus to come down to earth for us for our sins it was specifically because of the Old Testament. If we was living and doing the things that we're doing up today none of us would be here.

[00:11:27]>> None of us would be here. So that answers that question.

[00:11:30]>> Okay. So because Jesus came down, none of So >> I'm still not understanding why God would give us a law that says this.

[00:11:41]>> Oh, that was that was the Old Testament, brother. That's what I'm saying. That now why does that matter that it's the Old Testament? That's what I'm trying to understand.

[00:11:48]>> Because because we don't supposed to because in and because we don't supposed to live in yesterday. We we supposed to live in a new testament now that completely disagree, >> right? We don't supposed to live in yesterday. What was yesterday was yesterday and and was for hope for tomorrow.

[00:12:05]>> Go ahead.

[00:12:05]>> Jesus said he came to fulfill the law, >> not abolish it.

[00:12:10]>> Did he not? That the that's in context to speak the law of the Old Testament.

[00:12:17]>> Yeah, we can do that one too. So that's usually what I do. Matthew 51 17 through 12. I just I just like heard I just heard the like, "Oh, that's Old Testament, not New Testament." And I just, you know, that can't stand.

[00:12:32]>> Yeah.

[00:12:33]>> I've come that that that does I'm sorry.

[00:12:35]That does what?

[00:12:36]>> Well, >> I can't that that can't stand.

[00:12:39]>> What What Welsh is referring to.

[00:12:41]>> That can't stand. How can it not stand?

[00:12:43]>> Well, what Welsh is referring to is Matthew 5 17-20.

[00:12:48]And this is this is Jesus himself saying, "Do not think that I have come to abolish the law, which is the Mosaic law, or the prophets. I have not come to abolish, but to fulfill." Now, let me stop right there and let's talk about that word fulfill.

[00:13:03]>> Okay, go ahead.

[00:13:03]>> Let's let's talk about that word fulfill. So, if you're if you're driving in your car, it's pretty clear you got a car, but if you're driving in your car and and you're driving the speed limit, are you fulfilling the law or are you abolishing the law?

[00:13:17]I'm obeying the law.

[00:13:18]>> Yeah. Are you fulfilling it by obeying it >> for not to get a ticket? Of course. Yes.

[00:13:25]>> Yeah. So, you're fulfilling the law, right? You're obeying the law. And Okay.

[00:13:30]So, if you Now, does that mean that once you have fulfilled the law, obeyed the law, are you allowed to drive any speed limit you want the next time you go down that road?

[00:13:41]>> No, it does not.

[00:13:42]>> You have to you have to follow the law every time. Right.

[00:13:46]Right?

[00:13:47]>> Okay. So then that's what Jesus is saying here. He hasn't come to abolish the law, but to fulfill it, to follow the law, to obey the law. And he and he even says it here in the next verse. For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth pass away. So pretty clear. Heaven and earth have not passed away yet. Right.

[00:14:03]>> Right.

[00:14:04]>> Not one letter, not one stroke of a letter will pass from the law until all is accomplished.

[00:14:11]>> So does these are two conditions. The heaven and earth have not passed away and has all been accomplished.

[00:14:17]>> Further just just as much.

[00:14:20]>> I'm almost there. I'm almost there. But has all been accomplished?

[00:14:25]>> Mhm.

[00:14:26]>> Has it?

[00:14:28]>> I'm sorry. Repeat that question again.

[00:14:30]>> Uh, repeat again.

[00:14:31]>> Has all been accomplished?

[00:14:34]>> No, because if that was the case, none of us would be here right now.

[00:14:37]>> Exactly. So, all has not been accomplished. So that means so these two verses tell you that the Mosaic law is still in effect which means that Leviticus 21:9 is still in effect.

[00:14:52]That's what Jesus is saying.

[00:14:54]>> Well, I just read it to you. Okay, I just read it to you. It Jesus Jesus told you it's it's still in effect. It says it right there. It says until heaven and pass away, not one letter, not one stroke of a letter will pass from the law until all is accomplished. And you did say not all is accomplished and heaven and earth have not passed away.

[00:15:13]So that means not one letter, not one stroke of a letter will pass from the law. Means the law is still in effect and it's still and and within and within saying that correct. Now let's not forget that I did clearly say that God ways are not our ways. God thoughts are not my thoughts. So within that passage of you of of you guys are I mean you reading that you still can't phantom what it means of of the true meaning of everything that has been said because at the end of the day he still created Jesus for for us to wipe away our sins for us so we don't so we won't have to get his judgment because if if that was the case we would not be here.

[00:16:05]>> Okay.

[00:16:05]>> It still it still falls in a line of me.

[00:16:10]>> Are you telling me that when Jesus says the law is not p the law will not pass until heaven and earth pass away until all is accomplished? Are you telling me that that doesn't really mean what it says?

[00:16:25]>> No, it actually means what it says. What I'm saying I never said I never said that it didn't. I said I said our ways are >> how can't then help me out. If that's what it says about the law about the Mosaic law, how is this not in effect? This is the Mosaic law. Leviticus 21:9.

[00:16:48]Jesus said it's in effect, but you're telling me, well, he said it's in effect, but that law is not in effect.

[00:16:55]Help me help me out with that. That doesn't No, I asked you. I asked you. I no le I did ask you is this law fit and you said no it's not in effect as to me but I never said that it wasn't in effect what I clearly said to you >> was what God thoughts are and his ways that's what I said >> okay >> don't don't switch my words >> is Leviticus 219 in effect yes or no >> yes >> okay so then that means then that if you follow the law and your daughter you catch your daughter being a prostitute, you can burn her to death.

[00:17:32]>> No, that does not mean that. That's the reason why I said that. That's the reason why I said that the New Testament when God gave us grace and mercy. That's what that goes to, sir. Because at the end of the day, I mean, we can we can go back and forth, laugh, giggle, giggle.

[00:17:52]But [laughter] but if that was the case, then you stole you stole before, correct? Have you ever stolen anything?

[00:18:00]Have you ever lied? Yep.

[00:18:02]>> Okay. Have you ever lied? So, do you think you should have been burnt or killed >> or what? Or do you think you should have been justified of how you was punished?

[00:18:11]>> Because we're not I'm not a Christian.

[00:18:12]Yeah. I I should have I should have been >> here. I should have had consequences here.

[00:18:18]>> Okay. But that's not what we're talking about.

[00:18:19]>> So within the con but within >> but within the consequences, do you feel to think that you the way how you was punished or whatever the case may be? Do you think you deserve to be punished that way?

[00:18:33]>> Of course, but it's not relevant to what we're talking about. This isn't relevant.

[00:18:38]>> You just I'm asking you. No, no, no, no, no. Hold on. Should I light my daughter up if she if she becomes if she was a prostitute?

[00:18:47]It's no difference.

[00:18:49]>> Okay. So, what? Okay. So, I'm asking you >> if you're if you're saying cuz Well, first Okay. I'm going to replay this when you're gone.

[00:19:00]>> Cuz you did say this was not in effect.

[00:19:02]I You did say that.

[00:19:04]>> And >> No, I did not.

[00:19:05]>> Okay. All right. I'm I'm gonna play it back and then I'm going to clip it. I'm telling you, Tone.

[00:19:09]>> Okay. That's fine. I'm going to clip it.

[00:19:11]>> That's fine. All right.

[00:19:14]>> Okay. Okay. But help me out here because if this law is still in effect, >> okay, and this is God's law, >> but on the other hand, >> 21 verse 9.

[00:19:27]>> Yeah. 219. You're telling me >> that and Okay. Is this a morally right law that God gave?

[00:19:38]Is this a law morally right? Hold that thought.

[00:19:41]>> Hold that thought. I'm going to answer that in one hot second because we're cuz you're sticking to one verse where there are many verses to one thing.

[00:19:53]>> I got many many more. This is just one example.

[00:19:59]>> No, no, no. Just because of that's one example, it it all connects to to one thing though. So you're you're >> my my my my argument of with this is that you're sticking to one thing but you're not finishing the thing. That's what I'm saying.

[00:20:16]>> I'm finishing it. I'm give you I'll give you I got many more. This is just one example, Tone. I got many many more.

[00:20:23]>> This is just one example.

[00:20:26]>> But but see here's the other piece of it. You're telling me, so this is like your aunt putting a baby in the oven one time and you're telling me that she's still a good person if she does that. If she just puts only one baby in the oven and bakes it, she's still a good person.

[00:20:45]>> I I never said that.

[00:20:46]>> I never said that.

[00:20:48]>> All right. So, this isn't I'm not just cherrypicking one little tiny example.

[00:20:52]This is an example tiny thing. And I then there's nothing else wrong with the Bible. This is just one of the many problems wrong with the Bible. This is just one. I just picked one. And so that's what I'm trying to understand from you. We both have daughters. We both wouldn't burn our daughters even if they were turning tricks somewhere.

[00:21:11]Okay? We wouldn't do that. Now, I wouldn't even whoop my daughters. I wouldn't even do that. Now, she's just underage. I would get her intervention.

[00:21:19]I would get her counseling, all that stuff. But I wouldn't punish her for that. Okay? But that's neither here nor there. My point is, >> okay, right here it says Timothy 1.

[00:21:31]>> Timothy 3 [snorts] 4 3 verse uh Timothy 3 4 and 5 in the New Testament leaders must manage their families well reflecting the same principle and a family's conviction reflecting their other ministries. Basically what I get from that is basically stating the New Testament as I just said is that everything that you're talking about and everything that you're saying which is facts but that's the reason why there's a New Testament.

[00:22:07]>> Okay. So which trumps then? You're saying the New Testament trumps and why does it trump this?

[00:22:14]>> Why does it trump the Old Testament?

[00:22:16]>> Yeah. because or or or what we're talking about in state and state in hand right now because >> everything that you're saying yes is absolutely correct sir is correct but because of Jesus because of God seeing that the way the way the way the way how he slaughtered the way how he slaughters us and does the things that he was doing that's the reason why he sent Jesus to forgive our sins to have more mercy and grace on us.

[00:22:48]>> That is the reason why >> are we to follow the old Mosaic law or not?

[00:22:54]>> No.

[00:22:55]>> That is the reason.

[00:22:56]>> Even though Jesus said to follow the Mosaic law, >> that is the reason. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. And I just read and I just read the testimony. I just read first Timothy. You can't go offro first. You can't you can't you can't stay on one thing.

[00:23:13]>> Who wrote First Timothy?

[00:23:15]>> Wait, hold on. Who wrote first Timothy?

[00:23:18]>> Hold on.

[00:23:24]Okay.

[00:23:26]>> Who wrote it?

[00:23:29]>> Oh. Um, no. I I don't know who wrote First Timothy.

[00:23:33]>> Paul wrote it.

[00:23:33]>> That's why I said I'm not I'm not I clearly said that I'm not Paul and I'm just studying.

[00:23:40]>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm telling you. Paul wrote, you you can you can fact check me later, but Paul wrote first Timothy, right? So, >> who who is to be believed, Paul or Jesus?

[00:23:52]>> Who who trumps who?

[00:23:56]>> Like, you played spades before, right?

[00:23:58]Which one's Which one's the Which one is the guarantee? Who's who's the guarantee card?

[00:24:03]>> [laughter] >> But but if Okay, so since we're going to go there, right? In the same token.

[00:24:10]>> Hold on.

[00:24:11]>> In Timothy. No, no, no, no. Answer my question, brother. Yeah. Yeah. Who's the guarantee? Yeah. Who's the guarantee?

[00:24:17]>> It's the guarantee. It's Jesus. It's guarant.

[00:24:19]>> Okay. Jesus is the guaranteed spade, right? Over Paul, right?

[00:24:24]>> At the same time, [laughter] I mean, uh Paul Paul, wait. But Paul, but Paul was a disciple before Jesus came about and you should and you know that. So with so within so within so within saying that when Jesus came when Jesus [laughter] came >> when Jesus came >> he was not a disciple before Jesus came about. No. No.

[00:24:44]>> Okay. So if he wasn't what was >> he was a Pharisee. He was a Pharisee that was killing Christians. And then remember in Acts, we got to go through Acts. Okay. I got you just got to go read through Acts and then you see what happened to Paul. He had a he had a transformation, right? He saw Jesus and Jesus went to him and said, "Why are you persecuting me?"

[00:25:05]>> Why you right? Okay. I already That is after Jesus was crucified.

[00:25:11]>> Paul bumped his head and had a delusion and >> correct >> saw this and then converted to and then decided to be a Christian. So this wasn't he wasn't he wasn't before Jesus.

[00:25:23]He was after Jesus died. He wasn't even an original apostle.

[00:25:29]>> No, he wasn't. I know that. Okay. I know that. So, >> but >> Okay. So, if Jesus is this guaranteed spade, >> then that means it trumps what it says.

[00:25:39]What you just read in first Timothy.

[00:25:42]Matthew 5:17 and 18 trumps what that just what you just read.

[00:25:50]>> Nah.

[00:25:52][laughter] >> Okay. I don't want to play spades with you, brother. Only if you're my partner because you're just throwing up you're just throwing down your own rules. You'd be like you put down a two of spades.

[00:26:03]You'd be like I win. [laughter] >> Oh no, no, no. I'm not I'm not throwing out rules. See, my my my goal my goal with this is >> Oh my goodness. I already have my mind made up. So that's that's one. Two.

[00:26:16]>> You already got your mind made up?

[00:26:18]>> I already have my mind made up. So it really doesn't matter what you say.

[00:26:21]>> Clearly.

[00:26:21]>> No, it doesn't. Um clearly. But [laughter] uh at the end of the day at the end of the day I I not I feel but I know to the fact that that Jesus the Old Testament the Old Testament yes people people you know God did things that that nobody would ever even understand or even me.

[00:26:46]So that's the reason why Jesus was brought down to earth for us to be able to have sovereign, for us to be able to live, for us to be able to do what we're doing right now. So cuz all this is just really to me is it's it's debating, but it's good debating. It's it's knowledge. It's it's uh seeing how other people feel and what they think.

[00:27:11]So that's how I feel about the situation. But on your topic though, I you know, the topic says, "Is God just straight evil?" No, he's not straight evil. I believe I mean what the word says is God is the lion and the lamb. So that's that's that.

[00:27:29]>> Yeah. So he's not evil even though he has a law that allows you to burn your daughter.

[00:27:34]>> No, >> he's not evil. He's not evil. Even though he's got uh he says >> in Deuteronomy that he's got he's not evil. [laughter] Even though he says in Deuteronomy that he would take delight in ruining and destroying people.

[00:27:51]>> He's not evil.

[00:27:52]>> Okay. Well, if that was the case, then we half of us wouldn't even still be here. We wouldn't be here doing this right now, bro.

[00:27:57]>> Yeah.

[00:27:58]>> So, >> okay. So, just cuz he didn't do it, but he would take delight in it. He's not evil.

[00:28:04]is is he created us.

[00:28:07]>> He created us.

[00:28:08]>> He created us. He He created everything.

[00:28:11]>> So he gets to but he gets to just ruin and destroy people whenever he wants with no regard.

[00:28:16]>> I mean if if there are things Okay.

[00:28:19]Well, just put it put it this way.

[00:28:20]You're God in your home. If your daughter disobys you, son disobys you, you're supposed to discipline [music] them, talk to them, make them do whatever that they dislike, that they don't want to do.

[00:28:32]>> That's that's the way of God. Should I enjoy destroying them?

[00:28:36]>> Uh, no. But you should you should indulge with the fact that, okay, I'm making sure that what they done, they're not going to do it again.

[00:28:45]>> Mhm. What I'm talking about, I'm talking about enjoying destroying them.

[00:28:51]>> I'm talking about enjoying it. Ruining them. Destroying them.

[00:28:54]>> Enjoy.

[00:28:55]>> Yeah. Like like if I ruin my daughter and destroy her, I should enjoy that.

[00:29:04]You [clears throat] can answer that question, brother. I already answered that one.

[00:29:07]>> Okay. So, >> okay. But it's okay for God to do that.

[00:29:13]>> Yeah.

[00:29:14]>> All right. What moral principle makes it good for God to uh ruin and destroy his creation?

[00:29:20]>> Because he's the lion and the lamb. He created us all.

[00:29:23]>> Well, what moral principle is that though? Because that's like, you know, you know what a moral principle is, right, brother?

[00:29:28]>> Yes, I do. moral principles is just it's just about what moral principle that I hold in my household that I hold to me that I hold to to who I to what I what I >> give them to to to hold to have something with them for my kids.

[00:29:42]>> Well, like a moral principle is something to the effect of like um you know the golden rule, right?

[00:29:50]That's a moral principle. Uh keep your promises. That's another moral principle, right?

[00:29:54]>> Right. Menate.

[00:29:56]>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Don't lie. That's another moral principle. So that's what I'm kind of going after. So I don't understand what this lion in the lamb thing is. How that's a moral principle.

[00:30:05]>> Well, it's a it's a moral principle because at the end of the day, >> it says in his word um his Jay is Jay and his nay is nay.

[00:30:15]>> Okay.

[00:30:15]>> So that's his principle.

[00:30:17]>> So >> uh lion the lamb. The lion of lamb. What that means is is don't the lion means don't play with me.

[00:30:24]>> Okay. The lamb means if you if you obey if you obey my word, I will I will give you the the things of of your heart.

[00:30:33]That's what the that's what the word says.

[00:30:35]>> Okay. If we found out that there was a more powerful God than God and that God says something opposite of what God says, your God says, would it be the morally right thing to do to follow that God?

[00:30:51]Well, if you really want to know, no.

[00:30:56]And the reason being is because God because right because God says he's he's named many he's named many he's >> he's of many names because so whatever God so whatever God hold on I'm going to ask you a question. So for whatever god that that that be >> you know maybe another god he's from the god the higher power god. So I would not >> but what I'm saying is that this god this god that we find out about is more power powerful than the god you're talking about. So it's another god that's more powerful. It's just just this god just emerged and we just found out about this god did >> okay. Well there's no such thing.

[00:31:32]>> Well I'm just saying what if there was and this god says to do the exact opposite of what your god says to do.

[00:31:39]Should we follow that god?

[00:31:44]>> That's that's up to the person discretions. But no I wouldn't. You wouldn't >> I'm going to stick to what I will stick to what I know.

[00:31:50]>> So even if even if that god is more powerful than your god and that god says no it's a sin everything everything that you know that this god is your god's been telling you all that's a sin and so you're you're you're going to continue following your god.

[00:32:09]>> I >> it's all a sin and you're going to go to hell if you continue to follow this god.

[00:32:16]It's all a sin. You're going to go to hell.

[00:32:18]>> Okay. Then then then as as we say on earth, I have to check his receipts >> because at the end of the day, at the end of at the end of the day, my my God, the fruit that I've the fruit that I've bear to make sure that that I am giving God what what is required.

[00:32:39]>> Okay. Uh, as long as as long as my fruit is is of season, um, I would never turn.

[00:32:47]>> Okay. And you check the receipts and it checks out. Are you following this new God?

[00:32:53]>> Uh, if if it checks out and and of course.

[00:32:58]>> Okay. Of course. All right. Hey, Tone, your time's up and they voted to move on to the next one. So, hey, appreciate you coming up.

[00:33:05]>> Yes, sir.

[00:33:06]>> All right. Have a good one.

[00:33:09]So the moral principle is might makes right. That's what it is.