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Boom. Look at this. Exposing Metatron. A forensic a forensic analysis of his English by Stuart J. Raj. Well, first and foremost, I just want to say just put the theatrics out. This is a fantastic video and you should absolutely go subscribe to this man. He did a phenomenal job. I freaking love it. He even used the spectrogram specttogram on me. So without further ado, let's see what I can learn. Uh you know he's never it's never too late to I'm going to stop. Okay, no further ado, please >> because we see an unintentional tea in the wild of Medatron. Have a listen.
>> According to some uh while animate, >> can you hear that? Eve. If if >> it's not a native English.
>> Yeah, I should have said if. I do that by the way. Um I am fully cognizant of the fact that in English you have the I sound and you have the sound and only occasionally the I as a letter represents the E sound as if in just like in machine for instance. I'm aware but it's just that when I speak and I focus more on what I say rather than how I say it then it slips. So, I know that I'm supposed to say if sit, but I will say seat occasionally. Um, yeah.
>> I can I make a prediction? You can tell me if I'm wrong.
>> Okay.
>> I suspect given your sounds >> that you probably first hit native English society. Like, when I say that, I mean like kind of immersed somewhere.
Either you had somebody living with you or you were living in it between the ages of is Metatron. Oh. Well, I'm actually looking forward to that. Let's see if he if he got it right. Did he get it right?
A liar.
>> Am I a liar? That's a good shot. That's a good shot. He chose Oh my gosh.
We see him out there. He's there saying, "Oh, he's a muppet. He's a muppet. He's a muppet. I don't really like that." and he's trying to get us to believe that he's not a native English speaker. So, today we got something special for you.
>> Thank you for that, by the way. I appreciate >> a lot of you have been asking out there in the comments section as we've been doing these language analyses from Evil Deer to all of these Thai speakers.
>> Good friend of the channel by the way, Evil Deer.
>> How do you actually use this specttogram? So, the specttogram >> you buy a Macintosh, I suppose >> is the tool. I'm using the one in Audition here or the spectro graph is the actual print that you see. So sometimes I'll mix them up. So what I thought I'd do today, which will be a bit of fun, is that we're going to get Metatron, who claims that he's not an native English speaker, and see whether he's telling the truth or not. Because I can tell you when I hear Metatron speak, >> there are some sounds there. And if I just catch it in isolation, I'm thinking, come on, he's a native speaker. He must have been born there or something. But then maybe there have been things that give him away. Maybe he was born in the UK and then he went and lived somewhere else and he's picked up things from other languages. Today we're going to put met >> I really appreciate that. I think it's quite obvious to um yeah I think it's obvious that I'm not a native speaker but I I think it's also so for instance just just to to do a self assessment just keeping it real. Okay. So I'm not going to do uh oh look at me I'm so good for instance you know but I'm also not going to do uh false humility just no I suck. Uh because I know I don't suck, but I also know you can tell that if you're a native if you're a native English speaker, you can tell there is something wrong. And it's difficult to put it into words. So unless you are trained like this man, which is why I'm like interested because that's what he does. He understands all of different I believe he's like a language coach, an accent coach among other things, linguist. So this guy knows and he's the one who's going to be able to basically put into words that thing that you always think when you hear me speak and you think oh yeah he's fluent in English absolutely but there is something there is something so that's what I think I think if you give me a single word in isolation uh whatever he is I will pronounce it native like that's what I think I might f up but it's like a if it's a dice roll I guess if I hit a one or a two I'll still mispronounce it but in the majority cases you give me a single word I'll pronounce it correctly but once I have to orchestrate them inside a sentence there is a lot of factors for instance my emotional state how involved I am that will bring back the Italianness just like it did now bring back the Italianness giving it kind of a weird rhythm a weird pacing that's what I would say now at an individual sound level what do I do the I yes as we saw in the beginning is something that I will like mess up.
Absolutely. Uh so I will say if I have time to think I say English but without it I might say English English if I'm in the middle of a very fast spoken sentence when I'm actually focusing on what I am saying rather than how I'm saying it. But there is more to it and he's the man who's going to give us help me please correct these things so I can get closer to a native speaker. I'd love it. the Tron's English under the microscope and see whether or not he really is a non-native speaker of English. Full disclaimer here actually we have a bit of a secret group in the background. Evil deer Medatron and myself. It's awesome being chatting and so I've given him a heads up that I will be doing this. So I'll be interested to see some of his responses. Actually, there's a lot of stuff in here that in listening to it, I have a zillion questions I'd like to ask. So, for those >> Let's do this live. I mean it. Like now I'm I'm reacting to your video. Uh oh, that's another word that often times native speakers are like, "Oh, I can tell you're Italian by the way you say video, right?" But it's a Latin word, so shut it. I don't have to pronounce it.
Video. Whatever. But that one I do on purpose. But in general, I think this is going to be great. I'm reacting to it.
And uh I think the audience though do let me know in the comments because if my own audience thinks oh this would be great please I do a live stream where he asks question we discuss talk about accents and you know it would be fantastic and uh I'm more than happy.
Let's do it anytime. I mean to this week is Christopher Nolan's week no so I'm kind of busy but next week I'm ready of you who haven't heard Metatron's English. what you're talking about, you bunch of muppets.
I want you to have a listen to him first so you've got a baseline of what we're looking at.
>> Hey, noble ones. Welcome back to my channel. So, today we have a question for you. Should you learn Chinese or Japanese? And what do I mean by we? Have I gone mad? Have I gone mad?
Have I reached the final culmination of my complete insanity by going into plural of majesty? plural meatis royal we no I'm talking about that this is a question from this channel like even then when I said no that's because I'm I'm putting up an act in natural everyday speech if you literally give me the n and the o and you tell me pronounce it I would say no no but in that context nah it was funnier so that's why I say it like that okay Rafi puff so it's an interesting question one that I had ask myself when I was a student at university. So, >> okay. So, you've got a baseline there of his English. If you are a native English speaker, first of all, it's so refreshing to hear somebody who is saying they're a non-native speaker of English, >> but not speaking like an American. Um, especially saying >> I couldn't even if I tried. I mean, I can try, but then usually if I do, I don't sound natural at all. If you think that when I speak English the way I picked it up in the UK, right, if you think that that's not like, "Yeah, but this is something weird that you haven't heard me try an American accent because then you're going to be like, oh yeah, don't just don't." Not because there is anything wrong. I love the American accent. I married an American. I freaking love it. But it it's I I think it's because I mean now I'm exposed to it I suppose a lot more but um it sounds like a like a like a like a like a car caricature like it doesn't sound real believable.
>> In Thailand or across Asia the go-to version of English for many people because of movies and than you know entertainment is usually this American accent. So it's great hearing a UK accent on >> he he's Australian by the way. You can tell by the way he creates and articulates his sounds. Um, so, uh, cool.
>> Somebody who's a non-native speaker. So, what I've done is I've actually gone in and made a whole lot of markers as I've been going through this. And I want to show you little bits of the voice. And as we're going through it, I'll show you how this spectrogram works, how you could use it for your language learning and and fixing up your >> I actually use it for Mandarin and occasionally for the pictures of Japanese. So, I have used it. It's very useful. In Japanese, for instance, when you're trying to figure out the difference between hana and hana, and you're like, but they sound the same.
True. But if you add the particle hanaga and hanaga is different. I'm talking about of course nose and flowers and um specttogram is fantastic to look to actually see because that way you can confirm okay so it wasn't just in my head uh it's it's real it's happening there is a difference and I can actually physically see it >> pronunciation across other languages and how we can see some really fascinating stuff in Metatron's English.
>> So here's the >> you know I'm honored that he finds this fascinating. I I really am because I mean it's just me at the end of the day.
There's a lot of other there are plenty of speakers who speak better than me any language whether it be Japanese, Mandarin, English. So I I'm I appreciate that he finds me fascinating because I think there are people that are like a lot better than me when it comes to this. But hey, I'm having a good time.
>> First clip that I've pulled out.
>> And what do I mean by we? And what do I mean by we?
>> Okay, so first thing I want to have a look at here. Now I've put these markers. You can see here. So, and you can see what do I mean by we. I've actually marked them out.
>> Okay.
>> And each one that I've pulled out has a specific reason why I pulled it out. How this works is you can see actually the notes of the scale here.
>> So, you've got octaves down here. So, these are this is the pitch. This is a very high part of your voice and this is a low part of your voice down the bottom. Now, I've got left and right.
So, just look at one >> bar there and then one bar. I think he he said bar bar there. This is something that happens sometimes with Australians.
Actually, I'm interested. I do have this question for you because generally speaking, the Australian accent is non-rotic, just like the majority of UK accents, not all of them, but the majority of UK UK accents tend to be non-rotic. Normally when we imagine a rotic accent so the one where the R is pronounced regardless of whether it's at the end of the word at the beginning of a word or in intervocalic positioning which is usually what differentiates like non-rotic accents do not pronounce the R when it's in intervocalic or when it's at the end of the word and there are exceptions. So like if the next word begins with a vowel then sometimes it's used as a sort of leazison if you will but not always some people actually don't do that and will uh instead use a glottle stop. So there are situations it's situational and in fact there are there are scenarios which I'll give you an example the car under the bridge some people do even though you say car but the car under is easy to say because it's in between two vowels right but there are some people who might just put a little glottle stop in there the car under and don't actually end up pronouncing the R and then there are situations where you do put an R and this happens in the UK I don't know if it happens in Australia where there isn't one like law and order or drawing.
This does happen. Regardless, I noticed that even though generally speaking, Australian accents are non rotic in the sense that they don't pronounce the R.
Uh when sometimes they do, I've seen this happen with Shad as well from Shadiversity. I don't remember if I've ever seen it happen with Elder and other Australian. What is it with all these Australians by the way? But uh he just did. And but if you hear any other situation, he doesn't pronounce it. high part of your voice and this is a low part of your voice down the bottom. Now we've got left and right. So just look at one >> bar there.
>> Bar there. He did pronounce it. I would say bar there. But it's uh but so does he usually. So it's sometimes Australians do pronounce the R. And I wonder what affects it.
>> And then the more yellow.
>> See he said more. He didn't say more. it is the more vibration coming from the folds in your voice boxes.
>> And what do I mean by we? And what do I mean by we? And what do I mean by we?
>> We.
>> Okay, there is one main thing. There are two things in there, but the main thing I want you to look at here >> is his pronunciation of D.
>> Do I mean do I >> Oh, do what do I mean by DD? Okay, so he's going into I understand. So my D's and T's sometimes do uh come from the Italian matrix is correct. Not always I would say because sometimes I say would and sometimes I say would. So I guess it's situational for me. I can switch between the two. I imagine if I don't think too much I might revert. This is might be one of those cases when I'm reverting back to standard Italian um completely unaspirated in fact T and D. Um, it's not always the case though I would say.
>> Okay. So, >> yeah, >> if we have a look here, you can see this is his D.
>> Now, if I say, "What do I mean?" What?
>> Yeah, he does.
>> As a native English speaker from Australia, I'll say, "What do I mean?
What do I mean?"
>> Now, if he's putting a gloral stop in what I >> I do. What do I mean? I Yeah, I don't really say the T in that situation. Do I mean D? But even with a native English speaker from the UK that uses glottal stops, they will tend to have a voiced D. Now there are other >> Oh, you think mine was unvoiced?
>> Was it?
>> In English and native speaking English that say from New York to it.
>> But look at this >> that tick there and you see no voice activated.
>> Huh? And what do I do?
>> It must be because of the glottle stop.
In my case, it it's this is fascinating by the way. I love this scientific almost. But I would say it's probably do do.
Uh what do I mean? What do I mean? What do I mean? It must be the glottle stop that is effing up my d.
What's happening is he's got this glottle stop, >> but the stop has actually deactivated the voice for the beginning of the word do. So, he's got an unaspirated T, >> which is close to a dental T, not do where I've got D. So, this if you get your tongue and you roll your tongue back from your teeth and you feel that bump there, that's called the alvola ridge.
>> Don't try this at home.
>> Or the hard pallet.
>> And so, in English, that's where you pronounce an N from. N. Mhm.
>> T comes from there.
>> D comes from there too.
>> Not from up on the teeth. Now in >> Yeah, that would be how we do it in Italian. T D >> italiano.
>> See?
>> Yeah. Tongue is closer to the teeth. And so we can hear this dental unaspirated tea >> sneaking in because of the glottle stop >> coming.
>> Glottal stop that doesn't exist in Italian. So this is actually interesting. I'm having a field day here >> from here.
making it sound like do.
>> And what do I mean by we? And what do I mean by we? And what do I mean by we?
Can you hear the ticking? It's kind of funny though because it still sounds like a D to me, but then again, I'm not a native English speaker, so I guess the D the acceptable D range for an Italian is different from the acceptable D range for an English person or what have you.
>> What do I mean by we? Now, I'm exaggerating it there. Now, you might think, oh, come on. You're nitpicking here. Yeah, I am.
>> Yeah, of course. This is the fun of it.
The thing is as a native speaker, if I want to check if he's a native speaker, well, there might be dialects where this is done, it's about in aggregate, >> in aggregate, would somebody speaking the version of English he's speaking have these sounds together? And so as a native speaker, as I'm listening, >> and just to be clear, my version because I don't want to be disrespectful to anyone in the UK, my version of English is UK inspired. So it's English from England inspired.
But if you take an actual English speaker from England, I mean, that's the ones you want to emulate, not me, cuz I'm I'm I'm messing up stuff all the time. Okay? So that's important to underline. So, I don't represent the English accent. I represent a foreigner who picked up English in England. And so my my English is sort of inspired by it with a few [ __ ] [ __ ] ups from Italian and possibly a few other interjections in there that I don't even realize it because it's possible that at one point I heard a an Australian, a South African or an American say something and it's registered. And so now I mimic it and I add it into the overall English accent but with then there is an Australian word and then there is a South African word and then there is an American word and I don't even know that I'm pronouncing them that way. So that's important to underline your out of respect to people who actually speak English from England.
>> Listening to him, some native speakers wouldn't know that that's it, but they're think something's a little something wrong.
>> Perhaps it's that.
>> Have I gone mad? Have I gone mad? Have I gone mad? Have I gone mad? Have I gone mad?
>> Okay, we got two things. Have I gone mad? That's how I would say it.
>> Yeah, this an intonation >> as a as an Australian English speaker.
Have I gone mad? But he's speaking like somebody from the UK. Have I gone mad?
>> Yeah, I think my intonation was good there to be honest. By the way, where am I getting from because I heard it on the streets when I was in England. I heard people say that and so I'm basically mimicking out of memory. Mad. Mad >> there. Ah, he's close. I'm thinking he's might be a little too far forward. Mad.
It's closer to how we would say it in Australia.
>> This a mad >> mad. Mad.
Let me know if you're from the UK. So, what's the UK equivalent then? Is your ah further back? Mad.
>> Mad. Oh, I think No, that depends on the I'm not from the UK, but I think it depends on the region. So, I've heard people in the UK pronounce the A, the short A, not the R, lies in class or star, which that one also changes because down south, generally speaking, that one would be extended. So, your class star, but already if you go to Manchester, it sounds more like star.
So, it's like it's different. It sounds different even that one. But, but the short one, the one in cat, right? I've heard people in the UK say cat, say cat.
I know that you'll be like, "But that doesn't sound English at all." Right?
But it was a very old person. So if you listen to the early recordings of for instance uh the queen um she used to say bank, bank of England, understand happy rather than happy. So there has been a transition into the vocalization of the short r which went from a ex sort of air sound all the way down to variations. And yes, some people say mad, mad, have, but some people do say have. It's in between. And then there are still very old people. I mean, I guess they're mostly dying out now that still said that. I remember my friend's father, English man, but he was in his like late 80s. He's dead now.
Good man. But he used to say hammer instead of hammer. There is variation and it's regional. And uh so that's the thing. mad or is it mad like this? But then look at what's happening here again.
>> Mad.
>> Mad. Mad.
>> Okay. So, I'm going to zoom in here. Can you see this big gap here?
>> Right.
>> Right.
>> The same thing that I just mentioned happening with a D is happening at the end as well. So, listen to me. Mad.
>> I don't even hear a D.
>> My voice.
>> I hear an approximation, mate.
>> Carries over into the D and I don't aspirate it at the end. mad. Even if I did aspirate it, that would be mad.
>> Mad.
I've got this voicing happening.
>> But listen to this.
>> Chad Chad. Yeah, mine in this case is closer to a T. He's absolutely right, Chad.
>> If I just isolate the end there, it's actually devoiced and come out as a T.
>> Man, I love devoicing my [ __ ] I'm all about that those devoicing.
>> I must be a racist towards voicing. Can you hear that?
>> This is a clue that shows me maybe he isn't a native English speaker. Maybe he's telling the truth.
>> Now, let's listen to this block. It's a bit >> I always tell the truth, by the way, in any context.
>> A long one.
>> Have I reached the final culmination of my Oh, he's going to have a problem with the culmination. Yeah, culmination.
Culmination.
Hm. He's going to connect it to Italian U. But that I don't think that's what's happening in my mind. Um, I think it's because remember these are improvised videos on camera. What this means is that it's not scripted. So what am I going to say next is what I'm thinking rather than I need to say culmination rather than culmination. I think that's what I'm doing by the way.
Culmination rather than which is probably where he's going to go inity by going into plural of majesty. Have I reached the final culmination of my complete insanity by going into plural of majesty?
>> Two things I just want to pull out on this. The first one, have a listen to this.
>> Culmination of culmination. Culmination.
>> As a native English speaker, I probably wouldn't say culmination. It's >> But neither did I, though. I'm not trying to be disrespectful. You're the expert, so I could be wrong. I don't think I said culmination. I said culmination. So should I have said culmination to be more coherent with the accent that I generally follow? Uh yes, most likely. Uh but that U is a little strange and I think the reason is the fact that I tend to not always but I tend to have dark L's. So a video game Zelda um Zelda 13 or it's called the dark L and I another one channel rather than channel people rather than people.
I don't really pronounce those L's. And so this is one of those reasons why when I'm saying culmination, I'm like not fully pronouncing the L, which I think is impacting the way I pronounce the U.
Once again, a non-native sound, and that's perfectly fine, but I don't think it's coming from where he thinks is coming from, which is the Italian oo, because that would be a beginner's mistake. Um, I think it's still a mistake, but it's a mistake that comes from a different articulation of the L.
That's just my position on it, but I could be wrong and I'm happy to be corrected. I'm here to learn.
>> Say the culmination culmination.
>> And if Medatron is truly, as he says, a native Italian speaker, it would be instinctive maybe to have a U pronounced more like an >> only in the very beginning of but I mean I've been speaking English for decades now. So I don't think that that's still a thing. Uh because otherwise I I should say culture, but I say culture. So that's not I think the reason here I think it's the L and the fact that I'm just improvising on camera just like today I'm improvising >> and then ah so where I would say culmination yes >> if he said culmination I'm thinking that's a bit suspicious >> and a culmination of culmination of >> okay and then the next thing I wanted you to hear is >> by complete insanity >> have a listen to the t in the word complete >> complete complete Complete. Complete.
>> I did do an Italian tea. He's absolutely right. I didn't even notice it.
>> Complete.
>> He's got this dental tea again, >> which for that variety of English where he >> inappropriate. He's correct.
>> He is speaking from in the UK, wherever that is.
>> Yeah.
>> That tea up on the teeth there is not normal. You would think, >> you know, I'm glad that I use so many gto stops then because my te's are a mess.
you know, you know, crossing all your tees. Yeah. Get get rid of them while you're at it.
>> Complete or complete back here.
>> Not complete.
>> That's right. Complete.
>> Completence. Completence. Completence.
Completing.
>> So, you can see it's this very dental t.
So, that's another clue. So, so far we've got the dental t.
>> I need to see a dentist.
>> And the dev vocalizing of voiced sounds like d shameful. Shameful. I'm joking by the way >> to T. So now the next one >> I'm talking about.
>> Okay, now we got the glottle stop coming in. So just now we had a we had a but now he's got a full glottle stop in the word about >> about about about >> and his tongue's not even going up to the pallet there which is you know great. It's very normal. It sounds it sounds like a real British got or stop there. They don't even put their tongue going up to towards the pallet. You know what I mean?
>> Oh yeah, bro. They have been working on that for >> Okay, then we have it again. Bro, I get the vow on bro. It sounds nice, but bro.
Bro, >> bro, bro. But his is bro. It's it's a little bit for just like that a I mentioned before, but it's it's just nitpicking, but it's something as a native English speaker >> I might pick up on as being not congruent.
>> Yes, >> on that. Being non- congruent is perfectly descriptive of my mind.
And then we've got on that >> that >> on that on that on that.
>> And you can actually see here.
>> Yeah. Deactivate.
>> See this? This is the glottle stop. You can >> Yes. The operatives are gone.
>> See his voice totally stops there and it's that.
>> Didn't even try.
>> You see that? Let me pull it up here.
Maybe it's clearer.
>> That that that that.
It's the glauus just totally killing the voice. And you can see it's all dark and >> it's a murder >> and black in this position here.
>> The entire airflow has just stopped.
>> And the culture cuz I find And the culture cuz I find And the culture.
>> So the next one >> cuz I find And the culture cuz I find And the culture cuz I find >> And the culture cuz I find find I've still got voicing here. But have a look at here. Let me zoom in at the end here.
>> The word find find. Can you see this black gap?
>> Yeah, this is fascinating because I would pay for this. I would pay for this.
>> And this ticking at the end, >> the voice stops and then you get that again devocalizing of the D would be a giveaway.
>> Uh, while animate. Uh, while animate.
Uh, while animate. Now, I've pulled this next one out because we see an unintentional T in the Yeah. Why did I say anime?
I don't know why. I must have got confused cuz I think I just meant anime as in Japanese. Yeah, because it's about Japanese. I don't know why off Metatron.
Have a listen.
>> According to some uh while anime according to some You hear that? He didn't even mean to say T. It wasn't in what he was saying. He might have been thinking of a word with Tam, but he pronounced this.
>> Mhm.
>> Can you hear?
>> Good. Good rhythm. Really up on the teeth.
Yeah, it's not a it's a T up on his teeth.
Again, this is not a real natural UK tea that you would hear in the wild.
>> Yes.
>> Okay, listen to this. It exposes you to a lot of it exposes you to a lot. So, he's got it exposes you. So, he's got the tea coming in here. It it So, it's not it exposes you. It exposes you. It's >> Yeah, but that would be double glottle stop. I don't think it's necessary. I mean, if you want, you could say it exposes you. I think you can pronounce the T's if you want and still be okay.
Like, for instance, he gave the example of saying British, but you can say British. They're both fine. I'm not I'm not trying to put words in his mouth.
I'm just trying to figure out >> it exposes you. So he's putting the aspirated tea in there which is quite dental but then >> exposes you to a lot of lot of lot of lot of >> to a lot of to a lot of to a lot of >> I didn't even notice that I was using glottle stop with a lot of a lot of yeah I don't really say a lot of >> to a lot lot of so we've got again this mixing of glottle stops versus the actual aspiration now I get it if you're presenting you want to speak nicely so when you consciously think to knock it in. You might put your T's in there, but this is happening >> at a nonpredictable time with Metatron here. Sometimes it's thrown in, sometimes it's not.
>> Um, which goes to show. Can I make a prediction? You can tell me if I'm wrong.
>> Okay, let's see.
>> I suspect given your sounds >> that you probably first hit native English society. Like I when I say that, I mean like kind of immersed somewhere.
either you had somebody living with you or you were living in it between the ages of 8 to 12.
>> Wow.
>> The reason I say >> well I take that as a compliment because actually no I started it well it it sort of depends if you're talking immersion I was already 20. Uh between 19 and 20 and um 18 is when I was the very first time in my life that I heard a native speaker speak English. Before that not a word.
It was just a little bit of reading with a thick Italian accent. That's all it was in my English training. So late teens to very early 20s is when we are talking actual immersion. That's why I always say I picked up English in my teens. I mean 19 like late teens. Uh yeah, at 18 I was like studying and I was listening. So I guess 18 counts too, but I wasn't immersed because that was in Italy. Uh but it's it's like between 19 and 20 that I actually got immersed in the English language. Before that I had no idea what I was talking about and I could not understand a word that now your voice box is like a grand canyon.
You know, you see all of the layers of stone and shale and all of this going up.
>> I can tend to hear when certain consonants and vowels and even tones for tonal languages have set into the voice tract of non-native learners of a language. M.
>> And so the way I'm hearing your vows, the way I'm hearing the glottle stops coming in subconsciously, but sometimes they're not there, but you've still got these coming in from your mother tongue and there's this way that it's sort of all sort of fallen in just like the the shale and the dirt and the rocks and stuff in the Grand Canyon.
>> Fantastic analogy.
>> Love it.
>> I call 8 to 12 years old that you >> I really appreciate that. It's really a massive compliment to that's how I take it. Thank you very much for that. I think it's because I was a little obsess obsessed was a little obsessed over trying to pronounce things correctly and when I was in England because I think the reason is and while I may have failed on some areas I think I have succeeded on others and uh the reason is because I just wanted to integrate that that's the reason I was a 19 20 year old and I wanted to be like them because I loved English people I loved the country and I was like oh how do you say it I I felt it as a great fun it was fun to be like, "But how do you say it?" "Oh, that's how it's actually pronounced."
And uh that's that's why. And I got a little obsessed over it. I did the same in Japan with my Japanese. I tried to be like, "But how do you actually pronounce it?" And then I started to get like obsessed with the pitch accent a little bit. In Mandarin, I just wanted to get the tones right. It's part of my personality, I suppose. And uh yeah, >> probably immersed in native English speaking. Let me know if I'm near correct or I'm just totally off the mark.
>> I fig Yeah, you were off the mark, but again, I'm glad you were polite. That's one. By the way, I noticed that native English speakers in English English. So, this does not apply to like the Australian accent, I think, or I'm not sure if it applies to the American accent. I think it does. But in general, I noticed that native speakers make a dist distinction between the way where is pronounced like where are you where and were as in the past tense plural of you know was were. So that's how I say it. I say but sometimes I slip and I forget I pronounce them the same. Uh but in general if I have time to think I'm I noticed this distinction that people were like you were but where right like where are you? And so I love it's a small things. It's not a big deal. Also because there are people that do pronounce them both where. But I like it. I like the difference and I love that I noticed it. And so the moment I notice something like this is when I try to mimic it to the best of my ability.
History, the the politeness, the history.
>> Okay. So this next one, >> history, the the politeness, the >> Okay. So again, politeness. We've got the glottle stop instead of politeness.
Politeness. We've got this going back and forth.
>> I think it's because it's a little lazy talk. It's easier rather than saying politeness. I think it's easier to say politeness >> between gloral stop non gloal stop. But when it's not a glottle stop, >> we will get this dental rather than a uh t from closer to the hard pallet >> and we're getting devocaliz.
>> Interesting how he says hard hard pallet. I would say hard >> of vocals like D to >> T. Okay. Next >> traditions the way they >> Okay. Again, so this is the same thing that happened to the D before. Listen to this.
>> Traditions.
>> Okay. What I'm going to put this little bit here.
>> Theitions. The I got to work on those D's and T's. Am I right?
>> And let me just pull this bit here.
Listen to this.
If I'm a native speaker, traditions.
Traditions.
>> Oh, the Oh my gosh, this is phenomenal.
Thank you for that. I did do traditions, but he's now teaching me. It's traditions.
I had no idea. I just learned it. I was yesterday I was today years old when I found this one out. I love this. Thank you for allowing me to improve my English, by the way. This is great. And I hope that this helps other people.
Yeah, definitely. I did say I do say traditions. I don't say traditions. So, uh, great. I I do remember actually when I was in the UK, I was in London at that point, I think. And, uh, I did say represent or representatives and someone told me, um, no, it's actually representatives represent. And so, I appreciate when people correct me and that's great.
I've still got remnants of my voice over the S traditions from the N because it's vocalized here. The glauus has closed and your S is coming out as an unvoiced S which is the same which is the spelling. It's an S but actually because of the N we would say traditions tradition.
>> Even now he said because of I would say because of and it's probably again my accent but flipped around. I would do Z because of the fact that there is an O afterwards.
And I wonder if is it be it' be nice because that's I just noticed it though because he's making me focus. He said because of I would say because of and that's probably my accent.
Goodness gracious. How many decades?
You can hear that buzzing here. We're getting a dev vocalization. So, I'm flipping them basically, >> which turns it into traditions.
>> Traditions.
Traditions.
>> Goodness gracious. I've been saying traditions for my entire life. Well, today is the day I change it.
Traditions. Traditions. Traditions.
Traditions.
>> Traditions rather than traditions. Act.
Act. Act. Act. Now listen to that.
>> That is a normal native English t.
>> Yeah, I guess it depends. I guess it really depends on how much I'm focusing.
So, I am capable of pronouncing the native English T, but sometimes if I'm not as focused and I'm I'm a little a little bit more relaxed, that's when it happens.
>> It's totally different to the other T's that we've heard. Have a listen to this.
>> Act when he's saying it, act. Now, in normal speech, I might not annunciate the T at the end, but if I were to annunciate the T at the end, >> he did say were. So, he's one of those who closes it. Interesting. must depend on the area in Australia then whether you open that one or close it.
>> I would say it like that. Act. And notice how his T here, can you see how as opposed to those other T's that we're just showing down here, act, it's taken up this full section way up to the top, act, it's just it's a really full T sound rather than just a dental sound.
Right?
>> So act. This is native native way of saying act. If I were to aspirate the T.
Next.
I learn Japanese because of anime. I learn Japanese.
>> Oh, I did say because Yeah, I did say because of >> because of Okay, can you see that? So, this time he's actually kept the s to a zed. Because of anime, but here because of anime.
>> See, he doesn't do it >> because of because of because of anime.
Because of because of anime. As a native English speaker, I actually devoice.
>> Man, this video is a gold mine >> in because of anime. Because of Because of anime. And have a listen to this.
>> Learn Japanese because of.
>> Okay. And you can see here the voice is activated over the s in because >> yes of cause because of. Because of.
>> Have a listen to this.
>> But in isolation, would you say because or would you always say because? Because in isolation sounds weird to say because to my non-native ear I would say because but then I understand because of anime.
If that's how it's said, that's how it's said. I'm just wrong.
>> Yeah.
>> Again, people can't teach you this stuff. It's just stuff that's picked up and it's why I suspect he may have hit >> Well, I mean, you just did teach it though, so you you can't teach this stuff. It's just that it's usually I mean you need to go really in depth >> between the ages of 8 and 12. If he got there before 8 those little things like because of because of but this is because anime because of because in many other words that s would stay voiced.
>> Yes.
>> It just happens. I don't know why it's devoiced. Maybe it's not. If you're from the UK say because of anime. Because of anime. Because does your voice >> Yeah. Actually, let me know in the comments.
>> Cut off just before the S or not? Let me know in the comments below. But here we're hearing a definite voicing turning it into a zed.
>> Next statement. Statement. Listen to that statement. But you can hear a dental T here. Statement. Statement.
Statement. Statement.
>> That's very good. It's very close to what I would say is a native. Just a little bit forward T.
>> Next.
>> You know, anime is rich. You know, anime is rich.
>> Have a listen to that. That is full native English speaker.
>> Yeah. For a moment, I'm like, bro, if that's wrong, I haven't got a clue what I'm doing.
>> Rich. Listen to the glottle stop in rich.
>> You know, anime is rich. You know, anime is rich.
>> Can you see that? Listen to this.
>> Rich rich.
>> You can see this full blackness between rich.
>> The voice totally stops. This is something that isn't normally trained.
It just comes from the environment.
Rich. Okay, let's look at this next one.
>> The entirety. The entireity.
>> Okay, this is probably one of the first words I would say sounds not native.
>> Entirety.
Society.
I'm just trying to see to see if I do it with a desire. Desire >> because of the vow. Have a listen. The entirety >> clarity tarity the entirety I >> I would have more of a dip thong coming in on the bit entire entirety the entirety tie but he's not really coming down on the >> I think I'm doing I do that with fire I say fire rather than fire fire >> in entirety have a listen >> the entirety It sounds a little bit more like >> entity tar.
I can't hear it coming down again. Am I nitpicking? Totally. But >> that's the purpose of the video. Of course, >> is a native English speaker because >> of course >> he could fool some native English speakers. But even if >> I think the only case I don't think I could, but I think I can only if you put me in the UK. Believe it or not, and this is something I have experienced right now, when you hear me speak, it's maybe UK reminiscent up to a certain extent with quite a bit of Italian in it and maybe some other weird things here and there. That's how I would describe my accent. But if you put me in the UK for two weeks, I become a lot more like a lot closer to an English person when when I speak. Still, you can tell I'm not a native, but there is a massive difference. Why? It's like tuning of a radio. There are some sounds that I can produce on my own, but there are other sounds that I depend on a native speaker with that accent. And when the native speaker is removed, then what happens is that I go ever so slightly out of tune and I need something else to tune myself to kind of sort of, you know, lean on to. It's it's what I noticed. And so whenever I do go to England, I sound different uh than when I'm removed uh at least in my own experience. If I had to self assess, >> you weren't into phenology and stuff like that. After listening for a while, you think, "No, something's there, but I don't know what it is." It's probably stuff like this. The government, the government, the government. That's your >> Is it government?
>> All right, coming in. Have a listen.
Government. How do you say government?
Government. That's how you say you say double the >> the government the government syllables >> the government you can see from people who are coming from rolled R backgrounds some you can suppress it for a long time but not all the time. Have a listen instead of government.
>> Yeah.
>> So see >> this from the mother tongue is just wanting to jump in there.
>> True. You know what it happens though?
It happens more when I've just switched from either Italian or sometimes Japanese. Those affect the way I speak English for a few seconds before I return to the natural matrix that I adopt when I'm when I am speaking English. So if I record a video and all I do is speak English, even better if I'm having a conversation with someone rather than the performative accent that I may use when I'm on camera. So if I'm having a conversation, I it may even sound different than when I'm presenting a subject. I think this happens to anyone native or no. And then um yeah, so that's what I was saying. And but then if I'm like saying in the city of Roma, if I stop for a second to pronounce it the way is natural to me, if the next word starts with an R, I might roll it because it's still basing on the fact that I switched. And this happens with Japanese as well. If I said something in Japanese, not that the Japanese have the same R as the Italians, they don't, but it is a single tap as opposed to a um to the kind of R that you use in in English.
>> And because I guess this is a cognate to what we have in Italian. Um comes in as government. It's not a full role, by the way. It's just like a tap. But in English, government, we wouldn't say government.
>> Of course, >> government. Government. We drop the R. A governor, a government, a government, a government, a government, a government, a government, a government gavernment.
I'm not even sure if the R is there, but if you say so, I'll believe it.
>> No matter what dialect of English you have, you probably wouldn't say it like that.
>> Oh, yeah. For for sure. I take that one 100%.
>> The native English speaker. And I don't think he would always say it like that.
It just slipped in. Next, >> Kanji begin the number of kanji. Begin the number of >> And again, you can hear that tapping again. So maybe he's switching into a rolly or a tappy R mode. Now have a listen.
>> The number of kind number of number.
It's true number because I'm saying kanji and I'm focusing on the pitch of kanji because I don't want to say kanji.
I want to say kanji which is correct.
It's Japanese that influencing my English right now and it's bringing back the art of Italian believe it or not but that is what's happening. I normally would say number number of I wouldn't say number of but the R is slipping in there because I'm switching languages of kind of number of kind of number which we wouldn't do in British English or Australian would say number of number of number of number of >> forgetting how to >> okay listen to that really frontal T in the forgetting again >> forgetting how to forgetting how to >> yeah it's an Italian T 100% if I've ever seen forget it.
>> And you can even see on his um teeth there. Look at that. Look at that tongue.
>> Mhm.
>> Can you see that? Oh, I can't really zoom in here in audition, but if you have a look at his tongue is way up on near the back of his teeth. Forgetting instead of forgetting. Forgetting.
Forgetting where >> you're flapping it. So, one thing I'm noticing is that you tend to say forgetting. Um I don't think I don't really use flapping. So uh forgetting forgetting so I think I would have to try to switch to forgetting it's either forgetting forget forgot forgot forgot forget yeah I guess forgetting is what I would say if I were to I don't think I would say rather than forgetting forgetting forgetting forgetting but I wouldn't say forgetting because it doesn't sound natural to me to flap it just like I wouldn't flap I would say beauty rather than beauty Um, beauty sounds nice to me though.
>> As a native English speaker, we would probably have it further back. Again, I say native English speaker, depends where you're from, but further from the UK, from Australia, you wouldn't get it that far close to the teeth.
>> Go through it. Go through it. Go.
>> And again, we've got more >> through. Yeah, I did do the I do through sometimes. I do. I don't know why it's so difficult for me after the the incidental. It's difficult to do the through through through I guess unless I change it into an F for lazy talk. I could say through then I wouldn't run into that problem. But if I'm trying to fully articulate that then through the R sounds comes more natural to me. I wonder why it's tapped R coming in >> through it. Go through it. Go through it. Through it through it. It's happening through it. Through it through it. It's tapping there. Not through it.
Yeah.
>> If if if >> okay this one here >> some people may disagree and it's minuscule but I would say the I on if is a little too long.
>> Yeah.
>> A fraction millisecond too long. If if it's more like a if where your tongue is lifted up.
>> Definitely coming from Italian matrix here.
>> E rather than I e. It's more palatal rather than this rounded I right >> and it's a tad long.
>> So if even if I was stretching the word out I would say >> if >> and my voice drops before that. If >> if but have a listen to this.
>> If if it's got a >> lateral tongue and it's almost palletizing over the e >> if if It looks like I'm having a stroke. Can you hear that? If if it's not a native English I. Okay, this next one.
>> Don't worry about the tones. Don't worry about the tones. Don't worry about the tones.
>> Tones. Tones. Tones. Let me hear that word. Tones again.
>> Tones. Tones.
>> Tones. Tones. The tones.
>> Tones. Tones. Tones.
>> Tones. Tones. Tones. Tones. Tones, tones, tones. Yeah.
>> Yeah. I think that one depends on the accent. There's a lot of different ways to to pronounce that in my opinion.
>> I I think our this little tiny tail of the some of the dip thongs. And so this O going too far forward and this sounds like tones tones instead of tones or tones.
>> Tones tones. Have a listen. Tones.
>> I really like his voice by the way.
tones, tones, tones, tones, tones, tones, tones, tones, tones, tones. It's a it's a tiny thing. And you could get your odd native English speaker doing that, but in aggregate, again, it's just a tiny little tell to say maybe he's not a native speaker. Okay, let's have a listen to this.
>> It's an excuse to be lazy.
>> Yeah. Again, so again, we've got the um it's an excuse to be be lazy. It's an excuse >> no voice. Oh, excuse to be. Excuse to be. But but you say excuse me, right?
So, excuse me with a Z, but excuse to be. Man, yeah, that's that's kind of difficult, but I'll try to remember.
>> But have a listen to this. Excuse.
>> Okay. And I'll just zoom in on here.
Who's >> It's almost devoicing, but you're still getting this zed kind of feel to it.
Choose to be lazy. It's not fully cutting off. It's an excuse. to be laziest.
>> Thank you for that.
>> Excuse to be lazy.
>> Excuse me.
>> It sounds like excuse to be lazy. Like excuse me, but excuse and excuse.
>> Okay, so in excuse me, he does do it. So good. Good to know. Write it down, guys.
>> Different. So again, it's totally nitpicking, but a native speaker probably wouldn't have that in their muscles. That's used to be. It's still kind of voiced.
>> You could pass N1. You could pass N1.
Oh, listen to that. So that's the Italian. You could pass N1.
>> You could pass N1. You know, I work with a lot of Italians and I will hear this over the English a lot.
>> You could pass N1.
>> Can you hear?
>> Because I did the full N. I think it depends. Sometimes I'll say one and sometimes I'll say one. It's it's yeah contextual for me, but I guess it shouldn't be >> this in one one one.
>> That is the classic I guess cliche Italian accent that we hear when the vow is always put in the end. Very often you'll hear Italians even with consonants especially these nasal m ends one one and the voice will want to sort of bounce off there where I'd say >> the reason why I'm speeding him up is because I need to go take care of the baby but I am interested I want to skip it so I'm going to continue a little bit but I'm going to speed him up >> one I would never have a circumstance where if I finally learn I think to say one be one if I yeah no native English speaker would do that >> keep the n on this is >> unless you start doing this >> very very Italian pronouncing a sound one the natural thing for an Italian voice box is to annunciate the vowel after the end. So have a listen.
>> One one.
>> That is not native English. Even if.
Even if.
>> And then lastly, what's this one? I've got even if. Even if.
>> Yeah. Again, it's it's that I in the if.
Now >> there's something with me and if. We just don't uh you know something would be between. It's it's a lovehate relationship.
>> People might disagree with me in the comments, but have a listen.
>> here here. Even if if if can you hear how fast the I is. Even if. Even if if if this if is there, but his is. It's carried on. And and look at a microcond here. Here here. Eve. E. E if. that the little length there and the fact that it's E.
>> I need a compilation of him saying E for E for an hour.
>> Now, as a native English speaker, we have this rounded E. In Thai, it's E is lateral. This is E. And it's got a little bit of a glide to it. Can you see this here in the voice? E if that is not native English. Um, and this is one of these things that if you are a native English speaker, you're going to be hearing things like this. You won't know why it doesn't sound native, but it might be this tiny extended lateralized >> totally legit >> I that gives it away. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.
>> So, what's the point? Is Metron lying?
Is he really secretly a native English speaker?
>> No.
>> Or is he, as he says, a non-native English speaker and just done a stellar job at learning?
>> I really appreciate that, by the way.
>> English, >> I don't think he's a liar. He We've seen from the evidence here, I would say little things give it away. Some of the vowels like that, the e E instead of E I E I E I E I E I E I E I E I E I E I E just the palatization and the length of some vowel sounds the frontal ah versus ah in some words just those tiny things are enough to sort of twing it doesn't really fit in that sound set that I'd be expecting there the dev vocalization of certain sounds like a d to a or the vocalization of like because of this to because of this.
>> I loved that one by the way. I'm definitely going to work on that >> where you know just tiny little things that um you're not even taught in English. It just happens that way as a native English speaker because of this because of this where it slipped into his voice. I don't know if he'd ever spent actively trying to implement those things over his English to >> 100%. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was obsessed as I was saying. It's just I missed some >> really model his um native English accent. Uh but something has happened there where just a few of these have got little aberrations where they're kicking in where Yeah. they are a thing.
chromatic aberrations >> but there are some anomalies there there are sometimes where we don't do that as a native speaker I don't know why it just happens like that so when you hear it it gives it away if you do any one of these things in isolation you think yeah a native speaker would say that but then when you put it as an aggregate in the hole it's not and then the other thing that really gives it away is this the whole issue of a t and an r so the t we've got a dental t versus this palatable t um on the hard pallet versus the stop so totally cut off or act so you can see that's not act which he said perfectly act but then other times it would come up here when he was doing a palatal vowel sound >> very situational yeah >> so that moves around where native English really see that shift between different TE's you would see some change but not the ones that Metatron is doing.
And then lastly I would say is >> I'm very inclusive with T's >> the tapping of the R where in British English, Australian English we have this more rotal. There are some dialects where then right maybe you'll tap it there but not in this way and so you can hear some of the the natural tendency to roll your R at least have it kicking in with him. And then lastly was that N in where we could hear the vowel bumping off the end of the >> probably the the emphasis is what generated that because normally I don't pronounce the end like that anymore. And I think the reason was emphasis when I go emphatic the only way I know how to do it is becoming more Italian I suppose.
>> N where as a native English speaker if we had a final N it wouldn't ever occur to us to bounce a vow off the end if we were holding that final consonant. We just say N off the end. Just the little tiny tiny tails.
I hope you have enjoyed this at the very least. And I hope people watching this, you've asked, you know, how do we use the specttogram? How do we really read it? How does >> Can't use it cuz I'm covering it.
Covering the evidence, your honor.
>> Help us. I hope that you've seen that it's actually really useful. You can see where the voice is activating, not activating, where it's placed, how the tones go. This thing will actually show you tonal pitch contours as well. So, it's super good for pitch accents or for learning tonal languages.
>> Yeah, as I was saying. Thank you very much, brother. Really appreciated this.
I'll definitely work on that. I work on it because of uh your help. That sentence doesn't make sense. Thank you for watching and joining Metron Sky. Go check him out. Subscribe to his channel.
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