The VI Fund, a registered nonprofit foundation in the British Virgin Islands, has launched the 2026 Impact Challenge, a business innovation competition offering $250,000 in funding to support entrepreneurs developing businesses that address ocean health and environmental sustainability. The competition focuses on six priority areas: sustainable fishing practices, food sovereignty, carbon emission reduction, sargassum management, and circular economy solutions for ocean waste. Winners receive a full year of business incubation support services and funding disbursements. The application process involves an initial assessment followed by a detailed application requiring a business plan, financial forecast, and impact projection. This initiative aims to foster local entrepreneurship while promoting environmental conservation and economic development in the British Virgin Islands.
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>> Yeah. All right. So, um, welcome back to the morning facts. We apologize for the hiccups this morning, but we're going to get moving. I don't think we're going to take any breaks in between now and to the end of, uh, the show. So, I want to welcome Lauren Ke. She's sitting with me this morning and on this interview in regards to uh, the BBI initiative that they have right now. And I'm going to go straight over to Lauren and we're going to have this conversation. Good morning, Lauren.
>> Good morning.
Thank you for being here. Um, welcome to the Morning Facts Show. It's definitely a pleasure to have you on this platform and to help you share and talk about this initiative. All righty. So if you can take a moment to introduce yourself to us to the listening audience.
>> Wonderful. Hi.
I'm director and owner of management consulting and we work with nonprofit organization and company is a um 10 years on his philanthropic in the Virgin Islands registered nonprofit foundation and I'm represent presenting as a program manager for the VIN Lovely. All right. So, can you give us an overview? Uh, we mostly want to talk about your system fund and the 2026 impact challenge.
>> So, what is it about it etc. >> Of course. So, the VI fund um last year we launched impact challenge. We called it the 2025 impact challenge. It's a business innovation competition. We have $300,000 on the table generously donated by a name who owns a property island and this year running the impact challenge again$200,000 on the table for Virgin Island entrepreneurs that have ideas of how to either launch or scale impassible businesses that are doing something really positive for our environment this year particularly ocean health.
>> Okay. So um talk to us about the 2025 winner >> and and how has been going.
>> Yeah, we have two winners actually found 12,000 launched and then report the reef which is an initiative of a nonprofit called Beyond the Reef which is co-ounded by Chris Jordan and Kendall Bern.
>> Okay. I did not know that it was just um a so see there we've done something uh today and so how is the grant working out for them like how far have they come like do they have to report to you guys in intermission so how does that work?
Yeah. So they began drawing down their funding in January of this year and at Unite DBI we commit to the winners of the impact challenge to give them a full year of business incubation acceleration support services in the middle of that year and they've been receiving dispersements of funding as well as business support. Your first year as an entrepreneur is a challen we put a bespoke team around them to really support them and give them every chance to succeed. Okay, that's um really good. So, what types of businesses ideas are qualif that qualify for the grant? Um you said this year you focusing on ocean.
>> Yes.
>> Okay. So, any ocean related >> ocean related businesses? Yes. But before you think, oh my business is directly related to the ocean. There are so many landbased businesses that affect the ocean's health. Okay. And so, um we have six what we call priority areas.
And you can find these on our website vipurposef fun.org. Um and the six areas are anything that is um ensuring that we are fishing in a sustainable way so that for generations to come we can be enjoying the same fish, lobster, conchk that we enjoy now. Um anything to do with food sovereignty um and reduction of carbon emissions. So we import so much of our food and we import so many products. All of that has a carbon footprint because they come in on containerized, you know, um, vessels that are using diesel and carbon in the atmosphere is extremely damaging for the oceans. So, any business that is replacing a product that we import um, regularly with a locally manufactured product has a reduction of carbon emissions linked to it. And any um, farming business that is really building our resilience and making us a stronger food sovereign nation is also eligible.
Um we also are looking for businesses that are dealing with sargasm. We all know the problems and sargasm seaweed blooms that we receive. But you know there are entrepreneurs in other countries that have found viable business solutions to sargasm problems.
So those types of businesses are useful.
And then the last um solution area is around circular economies and um waste that's harmful for the ocean. So think plastics or chemical waste and our cleaning products. If your business is creating an eco-friendly alternative or upcycling or recycling a waist stream that's harmful for the ocean then that business also would be >> okay so I would have definitely thought any business on the water what to do with the water >> that's why we also explained >> so that was that was a broader than initially thought >> yes absolutely absolutely um so how many applications I'm going to go back to 2025 were received in 2025 and exactly how does the selection process this work so that people who are applying you know they don't feel like I'm not going to apply cuz I'm not going to get it like we want to encourage people to >> we really do we had 47 applications last year which for an inaugural you know business competition we felt was really um great this year we're hoping for three or four times that is the dream and we have a lot of interest and so that's great >> just like so say those from last year that apply can they apply again this year? Yes, absolutely.
>> Okay.
>> Except for the winners, >> right? Of course.
>> Yes. If you won, then we ask you to pause and give other entrepreneurs a chance. But no, if you applied last year, um you're absolutely welcome to apply again.
>> Okay. And how does the process actually work us through it?
>> So, right now we're in our open application window. Opened on June um >> sorry, April 2nd and we're closing on June 10th. So, we still have 19 days um before it closes. And that's a simple online form that we call the initial assessment. So if you go on the website viper purposefund.org, you'll see apply now buttons on all the pages. You click that apply now button and that links you to an online form that gives the selection committee enough information to say yes, your business is viable or um not viable, eligible or no, it's not. If you are in fact eligible, then you will be invited to submit a more thorough application.
We provide all the templates. So trying to make it really approachable and user friendly. And the uh templates for the phase 2 application um you'll have two months to fill those in, but they basically help um solicit a business plan, a financial forecast, and an impact projection.
>> Okay, wonderful. Um all right. Can you break down the grant for us for example? Well, I think we covered a little bit of that before. Um cuz I think what I wanted to know and other people wanted to know um is do you have a number that you select? Is it one? Is it two? Could it be more?
Because it's $200,000, right? So yeah.
>> Yes. So >> is it based on the devel?
>> It is based on the strength of the applicants that come through. We're going to the selection committee narrows it down to six finalists and then those six finalists have an opportunity to pitch in front of the judges which are Sir Richard Branson and Rick Kernney.
Okay. And then the judges can choose to give all 200,000 to one outstanding entrepreneur with a fantastic idea or they can divide it between two businesses like they did last year.
Okay. just depending on what the business needs to really you know um >> so the max that you will choose then each year is like two people >> that would be the max >> that will be the max okay is there any opportunity that the amount can go up based on the business and based on the founder wanting to >> in fact I'm excited to announce we actually just recently had an a new donor come to the table and say we love this program we want to put 50,000 additionally on the table so we now have 250,000 to award out this is the first time we're publicly announcing Yeah.
>> So, that's exciting. And if other donors contribute more, it's possible that we can give out more.
>> That's lovely. Um, and we have a donor right in the house today. I'll probably >> Yes, the honorable Mark is here and he knows I love to tease him. So, we might make him make a donation today, too.
>> All right. So, that's lovely. So, then it's possible that it can go up to three or you going to stick with two for now?
Right now we have 250,000 to give out >> but it's always possible that if more donors come to the table we could increase more but that is what we can commit to right now >> because this is a great um initiative and and businesses all businesses are always looking for funding. One of the things I say that, you know, I haven't seen in the BBI um is one of those organizations um how am I I'm getting I'm always getting brain freezes speaking to my age these days. Um you know, but these organizations where you can go and kind of pitch >> um to to to them and they give funding like a investment um company. Um I don't see a lot of those available. I know we have the bigger investment club, but I think they look for their own kind of big investments to do, but you know, more for like upcoming start startups and so forth to have opportunities to um get funding. So, I think it's a really uh good idea. Um and one of my last questions was how can persons actually apply uh to be a part and you've covered that. Um, I had some other information coming in, so I want to check it really quickly. But if there's anything else that um, you I may have missed.
>> I think one other really important thing to share is that you do not need to have a trade license at the point of initially applying, that June 10th deadline. But you will have to have a trade license by August 25th in order to advance to the final phase of the application process. And so we encourage entrepreneurs who don't have trade license that want to apply, please apply for your trade license because we have to give the Department of Trade the, you know, time that they need to review them and approve them. Okay? And we also are inviting nonprofits to apply. Um, but the caveat with that is, of course, you have to have a nonprofit certificate by August 25th and the profits that come through would be reinvested into the nonprofit as opposed to going to any individual.
>> Yeah. Okay, that makes sense. That that makes sense. Um I think even uh within here um I think I've I've touched on everything.
>> Fantastic.
>> I've touched on everything. Um so yeah.
Well, so is there Okay. So there's this initiative. Um are there other initiatives that you're working with with Unite BBI that you >> BBI is a very busy foundation they are doing >> that you're working with in terms of program as a program. Um >> well I mean United guys doing a lot in education really you know reimagining education they've got many other environmental conservation you know projects and and um grantees that they fund as well as community enrichment. So across the board they're doing a lot.
Yeah. And I know um they have uh just started they're getting ready to do the elders school. Um and maybe I'll have Kim and Suda come in and conversation about that and bring us up to date with that because that is a project that everybody has been focused on. Are we going to get that school back? Is it going to Yeah. So it's good to see that it's they have boarded up and they're about to get going. So we're going to keep our eyes on that as well. So thank you Lauren for coming in. Thank you for appreciate you being here. Um, let me make sure it that the public doesn't have any questions for you because I'd love to do that as well.
>> Sure. And as you're looking, um, every Wednesday from 12:30 to 1:30, we do a virtual Q&A. And so if anyone wants to dial in, we share information in detail and answer questions.
>> And when can we tune in to that? Um, >> checking out you guys socials on Facebook, Instagram. We >> live on your social links.
>> All right. Perfect. on Wednesdays.
>> Wednesdays from 12:30 to 1:30.
>> All right, sounds perfect. Well, Lauren, thank you for being here. Thank you so much for having >> and um remember that I look forward to interviewing your brother when he's in the territory.
>> I would love to come to Sorry. So, it was a pleasure. Uh guys, thank you for tuning in for this part of the um morning interview on the morning facts. We're going to take a 30 second break. It's 30 seconds, right, camera guy? If we're more than 30 seconds, we're going to kill Cam today. Yes, we're calling him out today. He's grabbing his chair. But give us 30 seconds so we can say goodbye to uh Lauren and then we're going to bring the Honorable Mark Vantipool on the set and him and I are going to go to town. All righty.
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Welcome back. Welcome back to the morning back for today. We have the honorable Mor Ventipool in the building with us. And I'm always gonna say honorable. I just use it whether they're the in office or out office. Um so we're delighted to uh have Mark here. Thank you for taking my invitation to come in.
I um we spoke on the phone, but I was still unable to make it. Although I made a little bit noise, can we come? Can we come in? Still unable to make because I had car trouble. Um, so I'm grateful that you actually um took the invitation and I can tell you I have a ton of questions.
>> Half of them are not even mind. I don't think I have two or three questions in here. So which says that the public is looking forward to this interview. Uh, and they have lots of questions for you and we're going to try our best to get through them. Uh, I know you can throw down so I know it's going to be a really great uh, interview. So let happy to address as we >> can. Yes, let's get to it. Um, so last week you had a huge announcement introducing the people's leadership movement to the territory. Um, tell us about that and what has brought you back to the political table and I should have said can you introduce yourself as well because like the audience is wide. Yes, >> we have de all across the world and they all tuned in as well. So if you want to introduce yourself and then talk to us about the people's leadership movement and how that came about. Sure. Uh well, my name is Mark Vendool. I put the H in sometimes because uh I have another Mark Vandepool in Virgin G.
>> Oh yeah.
>> Yeah. So uh and so uh I have uh been a representative of the people of the Virgin Islands and the people of the port district specifically from the years of 19 99 to 2007.
I took a sbatical for 4 years in 2007 >> having lost an election at large and then I came back to my favorite hometown the fourth district in 2011 up until 2023 election.
>> That's correct. So uh other than that I'm uh a businessman who do quite a number of business ventures um and uh happy to have been asked by many of my um constituents. It's about two years now they've been uh asking me to come back and represent the fourth district.
uh last year especially I got a really hard push to from my constituents to come back and represent them and therefore I gave it a lot of consideration um persons also asked me to come and enter the arena again to try to give my experience that I have so I am I am grateful that uh that uh and I'm honored to be asked by especially my folks in the port district >> to come back and represent them and I have given them that request and I'm looking I'm hoping that I can represent them and complete the uh job that we started out in the city the road town and the surrounding uh villages and we look forward to that this year coming >> this election. Yeah. Um all righty great. So um your return has raised a lot of eyebrows.
>> Yes. I know you were getting lots of help and support and um therefore a lot of questions and we're about to dive into them. So uh we will also try to take questions from the audience while we're live. I know people are going to want to um send in questions while they're there in addition to um what we have already. So we'll try to manage it as best as we can. Um you seem to have a lot of business a lot going on business-wise. You're building an empire of supermarkets, hotels, restaurants, real estate companies. You're all over the place. you name it, you're um diving into it and it's really great to diversify um your portfolio. Um but how do you plan to fit or balance leadership of the territory um or sitting in the House of Assembly and managing your businesses? You've proven to be a hands-on businessman. You're right there. You can call you. You're like you're in touch. So given the state of the territory, how do do we find comfort um that you will commit yourself to what this territory needs right now, particularly where the BBI stands at this juncture uh in terms of um and and what level of commitment, dedication, and selflessness you can offer to us at this time to get us moving forward again?
>> That's a very good question, Cindy. Um and I don't think people see the the background of my business ventures. I've turned out to be more of >> I call myself the mascot of my business.
>> Okay.
>> Because the business is run by a group.
I have a CEO of my of my company >> of my group of companies. His name is Henry Creek. He's the CEO of the group >> and a number of others who take very senior roles in running the show. I I jump in when I have to especially when we're doing a development or when we're but once it's established I I b out and they they take control. So uh I have a very strong team. We have 350 employees in our group.
>> Wow.
>> And uh uh a number of them are very senior who manage the company and manage operations of the company including part some of my family. So we we are very comfortable that uh they are running the show and it's all an effort by me to release the management of my companies to this group. I am I'm the face many times. I call myself the mascot and but it's run by a very strong team of individuals in my company.
>> All right. I mean that makes sense. It's for you to stay in front, show your face, but do what I say type of thing.
All right. So um so what do you say to persons um who feel that you know you have no business or why are you now reinserting yourself um back into politics when you know there's a feeling of abandonment um in the fourth district or across the territory as well. Um how do you feel um when persons say you know things like that like why are you reinserting yourself now? Why don't you just, you know, stay out and keep out and let you know?
>> Yeah. And and and people are, you have to give people the rights to ask those questions because uh and and and uh of course, one is entitled to the opinions and I respect that.
>> Um but I have been approached in the last two years, especially last year, um by many many persons in in in territory, >> especially in the fourth district, to come back and try to represent. The port district tried to get the programs going again tried to represent not just concrete and steel projects but represent people and their needs their individual and personal needs and uh so uh yeah I'm still strong have my wit about me still have my mental wit and I believe I can uh respond to those requests and I believe I can serve once again uh and hopefully I my my constituents will give me that opportunity So I I am I'm giving into the service that has been requested. uh you know it's it's uh it's understood that I and I want to be able to in my in if I'm successful in next elections to be able to give and help to influence the younger persons who will be uh in the in the political arena >> all of the experience that I have had over the years and hopefully they can continue on and continue to lead the country but I think my experience that I have I can lend to anyone on uh it doesn't matter which party or which group or whichever. I I think my experience can be helpful in the political arena uh in the next four years.
>> Yeah. Initially you coming in you were going to run at large um you were hoping to run at large uh and I know there was um where you know Zoe um was looking to be in the fourth district. I know you guys have uh your relationship. Um, what kind of changed your mind from going at large and pivoting back into the fourth?
Um, and how did it go in terms of saying to her, well, can you um let me step into the fourth or whether you go at large or or whatever? How how did that how did you come about like not doing at large again, wanting to go back in the fourth?
>> Right. Two things there. There was that request for leave at large >> but a very very when that story went out there >> I was inundated with the fourth district >> constituents >> leave at large story we want you to come and represent us come back in the fourth district every day I mean that was a daily request and in fact it was Zoe who said to me listen I would like you to come back in the fourth I would support you there and come back in the fourth so we had a very clear understanding there okay >> it wasn't any suffered. In fact, she she was the one who was one of those who said, "Maybe you'll be the best person to come back in the fourth district and represent the people." I listen to them.
I still every day I hear that from my fourth district constituents. Okay.
>> So, I I I am very keen to do that and look forward to doing it once again.
>> All right. What would be different uh this time around if you were reelected? Uh say you ended up the only person in your movement. Um, how do you see being in the House of Assembly working out for you? Would you fight to be in government at any cost or are you happy to sit on the opposition or are you happy to sit in anywhere um if you are reelected?
>> I tell people and and I think this is where people misunderstand me. Uh Sydney, I tell people all the time uh you you fight um in an election process to be elected.
>> Uh doesn't matter party on or whatever you are. After an election, I try to get you to understand whether it's just after whether it's a during a period of time or whatever it is, you try to find a way as a representative to represent the people of the British Virgin Islands, represent the interest of the British Virgin Islands. Sometimes that interest is an opposition. You can fight and work and uh uh speak in the house and uh bring forward your your your ideas and and and and so on. And that's good. I've done that. That's been an opposition.
Sometimes you can be in the back bench and do that. Um and I I can do that also. I've done it before. And sometimes you can be a minister like I have done for 8 years. And uh you can implement your programs and help in that way. Um so whatever is best for you that fits the territory after an election is what I seek to do and I have done that in the past. People misunderstand me sometimes but I am very clear in that. In other words, uh a party a party is good and and needed, but a party shouldn't dictate whether the country go forward or not.
>> Right?
>> And we had cases and situations where um after you elected all parties, all representatives should be finding the best way to represent the people of the British Virgin Island. So um the party becomes less crucial at the time until the next elections and the the governing of the territory becomes the most important >> right >> um I don't like when you have representatives who are trying to as we said trip up the government for their own um gains in the future you try to help the government even Obama opposition even like I am I am now outside of the government I address the ministers many times uh and calls and relationships and little meetings that we have. I speak to the premier. I speak to the ministers. I said this is a good idea. This is how I think it should go about the airport. This is how I think it and I >> You still weigh in.
>> I weigh in as best I can because I would like them to be successful. If they are successful, I am.
>> If if a government whichever government it is is successful for the territory, >> we as residents of the territory are successful. So, you know, you you avoid that that situation after an election to try to trip up the government because you're not the government.
>> You try to find a way to help the government to be successful, >> right?
>> Because when the tide rises, >> right, >> we all arise with it.
>> Well, that makes a lot of sense.
>> But people misunderstand me about that.
So, I I I and I understand people's opinions, people's views. Uh and uh you know, I I I have my own thinking about how I operate. So, >> yeah. Well, there are a couple of questions that I think you're referring to down in here. So, maybe you can elaborate on it some more when we get there. I have an idea of what you're um >> we're referring to when you say people misunderstand you in certain terms of you know supporting whatever government is there for the country and not just to trip them up because you're not in there. Um there is an air of distrust surrounding your return and expected run. um we're given certain events that have that have unfolded and I think these are one this is one of those questions um in your time running for office whether it's switching sides resigning in 2019 changing your mind again absences from the house of assembly uh claiming statesmanship uh while appearing to relinquish house of assembly duties and responsible responsibilities um how do we know or can we be assured that you are committed to being our representative again and that the district and territory on a whole are h are are look the district and the territory on a whole are having some abandonment issues uh when it comes to you. So how can we be assured that you are committed um to being a representative again >> it it stems especially Cindy at this time >> and I stress at this time at this moment >> where I believe the territory is um is out there meandering and not going anywhere. Mhm.
>> And uh the need is there for in my view to come in and help to steer the ship and get it in the right direction and hoping that others can take up from there and work forward. And I believe in this four years um with a good team, >> we can work together to make that happen. So it's not about abandonment because I'm here all the time. I'm I'm happy to be in in in even on the outside at times and give my influence to try to make things happen. But at the moment and at this time I believe that it is um important that a person like myself who have had the experience in government experience as a as a representative uh from the backbench from the opposition from the ministry level uh and then uh uh tied to that my wide experience in business that I've been able to accomplish and learn and be able to put forward that I can help the territory at this time to go forward in many ways >> some very basic simple business acumen that can be applied to government and how would it operate >> right >> can come from a person like me so the time the answer to your question is the right time and I I'm very committed >> to giving up myself at this step >> yeah so you feel like because I do too feel like the next four years is a very critical uh time in the history of the BBI it's really going to determine uh whether we're moving forward or wearing your shovel. Is that how you're feeling?
>> Yeah. I don't want to call it do or die, >> right?
>> But it all it's almost that this next four years, >> the territory in terms of its advancement, we've had many mistakes over the last 8 years.
>> Uh you know, you can we all know what some of those mistakes were. We coming forward now and we have had a situation where the present government had great ideas. They're good people. I you know, I love all of them. They're all my good friends. uh but the the the the ability to implement those ideas, execute those ideas and if I go down the whole long history won't finish roads, schools, um you know um health issues, education, uh you know, um airport, they just have not been able to execute. At the end of the day, you have to judge the government as to whether they were able to implement programs uh to be able to uplift the territory up to uh I think it was I don't remember yes couple days ago yesterday actually a young lady called me to ask me for for a job and we were going through the interview process over the phone discussing why she had to be calling me and not calling my office where we do interviews and so on HR team and she explained to me her situation.
you know, she's pregnant. She was having some abuse issues in her family, but she went to social development and they told her they can't help her. I mean, you know, I'm saying these are things that you you can't just push on the side.
>> And I am the kind of person who would listen to you and try to find a way.
What's the angle I need to go with this young lady, you know, where should she go? Police didn't help her. Uh she said um you know they did a they did their job in terms of abuse situation.
>> Mhm.
>> Social development didn't help her because there's a 5 year 5 month pregnant lady who is having issues and she told me she wasn't sleeping anywhere.
>> But I mean she's praying for help.
>> Yeah. And the fact that she told me she wasn't sleeping anywhere I couldn't understand. So I tried to ask her more about that and we had to find a way to help her. So what do we do with people like that if they go to social development and social development just one and I'm sure social development probably have a a reason I don't know what it is >> and you know you have to hear two sides of a story always so I just want I just hold one side so far I'm going to investigate that I promise that we're going to take her back to solution development >> and discuss the matter but while we are discussing the matter of a job for her there's also the other needs that she has a place to stay place to sleep and so on but the point I'm making is um the social needs of the territory >> we have failed.
>> Yeah. um we're not critical and we I can go on many many more stories about that about the person who lost their legs and couldn't get help with the um the um the new legs to all sorts of things every day and there are all sorts of stories but I'm saying and you can't you can't address all of them obviously development I'm sure try to do their best >> you know should that person get $300 to pay for his rent and his food for the month or for the year who isn't working anymore and there are a lot of these social issues that we have to address and sometimes it's not just government can address them. We have to find other ways of helping. But >> these are these are some of the reasons I'm I'm re-entering politics. You ask me the question >> and I'm very very adamant that uh and hopeful that uh I would be I would get the opportunity to do that and you know it's up to the constituents. Um and I I am humbly asking him for that opportunity and hopefully I can give that make that sacrifice to help the people once again. So that's how I see it.
>> Okay. Um what do you say and I think this is another question in terms of um you know how people feel in terms of you know being able to trust you. Yes.
>> To you know you're going to u get a few of those. So what do you say about you know the allegations that it was you who was largely responsible and I know you know this question is coming for your sister honorable Lorna Smith um for crossing over to join the NDP the VIP's uh administration government after the last election. It seems she was elected on the NDP ballot um and by its supporters. uh people feel like this was tantamount to splitting in people's face or felt there was you know a bit of betrayal uh and you know the conversation has always been that you know you were the one the driving force behind it um is there any truth to that and if there is you know like do you want to defend it um you know how how do you respond to how people feel about that happening >> I remember if you know my sister my beloved uh is a if you know her she's a very intelligent person. She is a very a very clearminded person of the direction she wants to go and she makes her own decisions. Um I am always happy to guide I have to >> as as as she ran last time as I was there with her and she made her decision. Um was it the right decision?
I will stand here and say I think it was um because the territory needed her expertise in what she was doing. I didn't think the territory would benefit from expertise as well from the backbench or from an opposition side. So she what she did benefited ter benefited the territory and it continues to benefit the territory. So I will not flinch by saying that I think she made the right decision. Uh it people like I said before people will always have the opposition to that kind of thing because people are holding on to the party subject and all those issues.
>> When an election is over let's see how we can make the country better.
>> All right. So I'm pulling out you know something from what you said there. So on the other side um the option for her was more looking like maybe a back venture and she would not have been able to be you know as effective on that side um as she is on the VIP side in terms of positioning.
>> Correct.
>> That's that's my view but it's her decision but it's her decision. Okay. I don't want you to think that she is she's a very >> intelligent person who makes her own decisions as to what she should do and she made that decision >> and I support it.
>> All right. So I think that clears the air. Um again of course as you said like we have our views on things um and yes a lot of it comes out of um you know being really committed to these parties. Uh and I think that is definitely a destroying point um for the BBI. We can't break away from the parties. Um but I I guess to you know when candidates step up and they ask you for their vote in certain ways um I know sometimes we don't have the time to bring it back to our constituents to see where they stand and and we make a decision and so sometimes you know that feels disappointing to us. I understand so >> it's understood. Yeah. Um there were some scandals that erupted um during the last years of the NVP government rule.
Um you know overrun and corruption with the pair park. Um I'm just wars that will lose BBA airways the airport development. Um do you think that these will affect you going into the next election seeing that you are actually a part of that cabinet? you you always say we have um allegations of scandals >> and uh um until someone can come and show me a proven fact about them, I tell them >> what you talking about, but can you show me what's going on here? Uh I'll speak especially about the project that I over had oversight of the cru development and I am very >> excited to have been the one who uh with the permission from my good premier executor project. The cruise pair development was one where very clearly when we went out to the elections in 2011 >> um our manifesto said we would be building a modern cruise.
>> I came into office. I became the minister responsible for ports development and the cruise fair came um square in my lap. I was very happy to receive it. um the cruise pair that was being proposed in the previous government was the way behind the modern cruise pairs development to to accommodate 5,000 passenger ships the 2,000 crew. So I abandoned that project immediately um and built the present cruise pair. You know people said it wasn't my and the the good co reported it wasn't my responsibility to build the cruise pair but it was the the um port the port authority and that's absolutely not true. I proved that by quoting the the laws that was that manage the port.
>> The minister in cabinet is responsible for development, >> right?
>> The board is responsible for operations >> very clearly. So it was the decision of the cabinet to go forward with the cruise pair development. Um now there it is understood and clear that the initial number for the cruise pair that was put out by a previous group that we were going to give the opportunity to build of I think it's 50 or $51 million um was the budget that we started working with trying to meet the deadline for Disney and Norwegian >> who we had with whom we had contracted to build the build the cruise fair for as as a as as tenants um uh who had the first preference on the on the docks. Um so we we felt that we had to move quickly to build it. We started building we there there there are sort of three aspects to that we did. Um the $51 million would have built um um a cruise fair that wasn't adequate >> and it would have built um the the um the village itself that would have been inadequate. The building that they were proposing would not have withtood any hurricanes. So we decided no, we're going to abandon that idea that they had. We're going to pile all of the buildings. So we spent about $7 million in piling and then we said we're going to build 14 buildings of concrete and steel versus warehouse buildings that they had proposed. And so we built the 14 buildings and give contractually give them out.
>> Mhm.
>> And we built a a dock that can hold uh two ships that were there. Now, the the final cost of the project in the in the $80 million range >> uh was clear when we brought in independent evaluators who very clearly says in writing um that is there that the port got value for money for the cruise pay that that we have there. I would like people to go and look for that and see and see the breakdown of what was built and how it was built and what the how the cost was justified. So when people tell you that there allegations of this and allegations of that, I smile because you have an allegation to prove them. Let's see what they're talking about. And uh yes um you will get um affected sometimes that people talk about that. At the end of the day, I took a business decision.
>> I built a cruise pair that had a financial return on it that is almost finished being repaid for now and that the territory is benefiting. uh the the estimated benefit to the territory in terms of gross domestic product was over $und00 million that that cruise pair would produce every year. So is it doing that? Yes. Um is is the the loan that we borrowed uh to build it almost finished?
Yes. Are the um constituents of the territory, the residents benefiting economically from it? Yes. um uh some of the same taxi men unfortunately who are objecting to some of the things in it.
They don't have enough taxis now to do the work.
>> Uh so it benefited territory. We have always looked at how it how it would you know um um each each passenger on the cruise ships uh spend in the range of $150 per passenger. If you have a million passengers a year, at the time we had gotten up before the hurricane to 700,000, >> but the the the projection was a million passengers a year. A million passengers a year times $150,000 is $150 million a year in your gross domestic product. That's benefited the economy. So I'm very very pleased that the crude space turn the way it is. Uh only thing I'm not pleased about is we have done nothing since >> to improve it. there some other two other phases to improve it and hopefully we can >> and the floating docks are still down after 10 years.
>> That's that's one of the phases and then >> there was an idea that the um there would have been a um a restaurant on the front >> that I didn't approve. I prefer to build a eventually what I call a tower hotel there.
>> Okay.
>> And hopefully I just gave that idea back to the port again. to call me and ask me if any ideas that we would have in a consultation with many of many many business people >> and um I like the idea I told him about building a twin tower >> one on the front and one on the other side of the water by village key >> and call it a twin towers maybe that's a good idea for marketing I don't know >> twin towers in the BBI and hope it won't be knocked down >> yeah we'll see um so staying on the fact that you know you had you know the paper pack was your project. Um, you know, based on all the noise that was happening, there was an audit. You guys requested an audit um that wasn't completed. Uh, and so the audit wasn't completed because they couldn't find the paperwork that was required, you know, to to get the audit completed. And so that remained outstanding.
>> I'll be surprised about that because and I don't think that is true. KPMG did an audit and presented the audit report.
And there was another um and which was which was the most important there was another um independent evaluator >> who came in from overseas and evaluated the project in terms >> in terms of the construction and the value for money >> and that is there on the file. So I'm not sure >> why people would say that some file was hidden that I would be surprised about that.
>> Okay, I'll do further research >> but that's that's something for >> Yeah. Um, all right. So, the BBI is facing labor issues where many businesses continue to seek uh foreign workers for positions while there are still locals and residents who remain unemployed. How do you propose addressing this issue to ensure that the local workforce is given greater opportunities and that the job market is not overly saturated with importer labor?
>> A very interesting question because I I experience this every day. So it's a very important question >> and uh I usually tell a labor when they address this to me is any local person that you have who's out to a job and want to work >> Mhm.
>> send them to me.
If I apply for five um persons to come in, I tell labor if I apply for five and you have five, send them to me and I'll hire them.
>> Okay? immediately uh without because people don't understand it's so much less costly for us to hire local person.
You bring in people overseas, you got to pay help the passage, you got to go through a long walk process, you got to do all that. It's a lot simpler to hire our own local people and we go out and we seek our local persons. We decided we just still looking for more workers in Virgin order for a new supermarket there >> and uh we trying to find as many locals there as possible >> and uh that's what we do. Um then we open a restaurant and so on. We looking for local people. Um I I have a new restaurant. I I asked yesterday just to make sure. We advertise for this new restaurant for workers and I believe it's one local person applied.
>> Yeah. So, you know, besides putting that out like that, we go and look for people. I asked the the manager of the restaurant, the person who was overseeing, did you go out and look for some of the local people that you know?
>> And yes, he told me yes, but it was a matter of looking for some of them. He he wanted to steal from other other restaurants >> restaurant which you know we don't like cuz I don't like people to steal my workers. I my local >> It seems to be quite a thing that thing happening.
>> Yeah. because because the pool of local workers is not there as much as you say >> who want to work.
>> So, but >> but where do where do you guys advertise now? And I know because labor, you know, they've put out this system where you have to put everything in there. Does that eliminate does that eliminate advertising like in the local newspapers and so forth? Because I don't see any of these ads.
>> Yeah. Well, it shouldn't, but that's what the labor said. You have to advertise it there and then and then they monitor to see if you interview the persons based on that. So, it's a good system in that way and that you're forced and required to interview especially local people once they apply in the system. But um as we grow and expand um we as a as a group and I hope as a as a person who's offering uh myself for for office again that we can spend time continue to train our local our local folks and don't misunderstand me there are a lot of very good workers local workers >> you know unfortunately indeed the hospitality industry there in the Virgin Islands including in the US Virgin Islands. There weren't any better hospitality workers in entire Virgin Islands than Benders.
>> Yeah.
>> Did you know of the group that King Garden Bay and Rose Bay and and Rose Town? They all they were actually exported to to the US Virgin Islands to work in Canal Bay and and Maho Bay and all those places and Little Licks Bay.
>> That is absolutely >> excellent uh hospitality workers. We still have a number of them, but I wish we can continue to train some of our local workers at that level so that the hospitality industry can benefit from our local >> How do you see how do you see the government helping with that?
Well, I think the government is trying um because the government have done a lot of there's always um training, there's always um um um um apprentice work and so on and you know I job with apprentice when I left school I I I became apprentice because I love the hospital the industry. I thought that's the direction I was going to go eventually. Uh so you know as a young kid come up with school I was given opportunity at less to at the time.
>> Um but so government has to continue trying to get businesses to um to take on apprentices take on training and so on. I think they do.
>> Um, we just have to get our It's a culture that we have to change because what happened in the in the in the in the I don't know the last 20 25 years is that our school levers and so on got acclimatized through getting simple easy jobs in the financial services industry.
>> You leave school, >> you put on a little tie and your shirt.
You go down to a trust company. You're a messenger. You're inside photocopying a lot of papers and so on. and you get a $2,000 check every month of $2,500. So, the the young cells were happy to do that. They they go about in the in the the company car. And >> I agree with you.
>> Now, we need to retrain them because the the the trust company business is reduced that because of the online stuff and all that kind of thing. So, work in that industry isn't as prevalent as it used to be.
>> Yeah.
>> How can we train and get those youngsters acclimatized to the hospitality industry, which is where we're going? Mhm.
>> I mean, you're going to build hotels.
Who want who going to walk in those hotel and then restaurant? So, we have to get our people back to thinking that service >> is not a bad thing. Yeah.
>> You know what I mean?
>> Yeah.
>> Um I wanted to ask you this question as it is here, but I'm going to ask it in my own way cuz like I said, this is compiled of people's questions and all apologies.
>> Um while we're talking about this, this is about immigration and labor and residency belong status and how we control that as a small territory. Now I always say that I believe that you know I don't have a problem with people uh coming in but you know I want to know how are we going to protect Virgin Islanders as we're you know bringing in people and so forth and you know the path to belonged etc etc your government um was in when I believe that the rollover policy the first time was introduced there was a rollover policy introduced it was I think it was the year after came and introduced it so this about almost 20 years I think.
Yeah.
About three four time policies picking up where then you work for seven years and you have to go and come back for 3 months or something like that.
>> Oh or yeah just you break the >> right break the time. Yeah.
>> Right. So I know you guys were working on it. I heard that it was approved in the house and then it was pulled back.
How do you feel about, you know, that type of policy in terms of, you know, controlling a path to, um, citizenship, uh, controlling the future of the Virgin Islands for Virgin Islanders or even the look, um, and and the culture of the Virgin Islands?
>> Uh, there are different ways of controlling that. Um, whether that was the right path to control, I don't know.
But um Cindy, as an economy grows, as a country grows, >> Mhm.
>> Um you're going to have a bigger populations um you're going to have requirement for for workers. Um and uh you know, it's that that policy sounds simple, but it creates a lot of problems for business owners. You you imagine you bring in a worker, you you you train that worker for seven years, take a certain position in your business and so on and seven years they're gone.
>> Mhm.
>> And and you think they're going to come back after 3 months or 6 months. It's not as simple as that. So I I don't know that that can work so easily. Um we have to find we have we and we we do so very often. We have to find ways of protecting our people. Mhm.
>> But uh in the long run, if you're going to develop a a hospitality industry, um um hotels, um um restaurants and and so on, you're going to have a population that's going to change. We were when I came back from being a banker in Barbados in uh 28 uh 1986 or 85, we had 15,000 people in BBI.
>> Mhm.
um they they thought at an economic forum was that we grow to 25,000 in 10 years.
>> Well, we're 35,000 now and and growing.
>> Okay. But if you're going to build the economy, you want to build it so that the the the the local indigenous people and our local residents and local belongers uh continue to benefit from the economy and are protected in many ways. But you you you have to accept that there going to be people who be here for 15 20 25 years. What do you do with them?
>> Yeah. So I mean in terms of the success of the program, I know Kayman has a program. They've had it for about 16 years um now. And it's it's been working very successfully. They haven't lost a beat on it. And I mean their program is in 3 months. You have to be for a year and you can apply to come back if you want. Um there was a lot of push back from the businesses uh and the government uh the Cayman Islands they put their foot down and they were very serious about it because they saw the path where um they were going that they would no longer be you know a Cayman for Canyons basically.
>> Uh and they stuck to it and it hasn't hampered business for them in any way at all. I think what people thought would have happened didn't. Mhm.
>> Uh and yes, so I understand the point where you're training someone in your business and then you have to roll that person over and try somebody get somebody else and um you know keep it moving but I mean it is an option to look at they they have a success rate with it. Uh they continue to grow. I think their population is now after even putting in that rollover and the population now at some 80,000 and when I get there it was about 50. So they're growing rapidly.
>> Yeah. Um >> I think I think programs you should not ignore. You should look at them and as you said I I would want to to um take a look at the whole program.
>> Um because uh you know I hear you that you say it's successful and I'm sure it is. But it is a program that we can research and see how it works >> and it should not go off the table. I I appreciate that.
>> Yeah. And even if it's not that, I find that our legislators aren't actually looking for ways they're not coming to the table unless they find it to be a difficult subject. I don't know, >> but I guess it's one of those that create aggregation, but we have to >> look at this too.
>> Okay.
>> Important.
>> Um, so the sister islands, of course, they're going to chime in. The sister islands continue to face some of the most pressing infrastructural challenges uh in this uh territory. unstable power, recurring water shortages, the growing sargasm, uh crisis, long-standing concerns about port and transportation development. Your movement has spoken about change uh and a new direction. Uh but many residents now want specifics.
So why exactly is your vision for the sister islands over the next four years, but it's just like >> let me start with a philosophy first.
Okay. And that's how things people understand things. Um, you cannot continue to talk about these islands as sister islands.
We are the British Virgin Islands. So, we are all the same.
>> We're not sister or brother or uncle or aunt.
>> We are one group.
>> And uh we have to see that that way so that um bing isn't shouldn't be any less than torto and the gather shouldn't be any less. How can we try to become equal? For example, why should Anadian have to pay $100 or $50 or whatever the amount is to travel between and to >> that's that's a system of transportation.
>> It's just like building our roads from road town to East End.
>> Why can't we find a system of subsidizing >> the Anigadons better to travel from their country to town?
>> Mhm. or a virgin god or even um you know in the you can research it a little better because I don't know the whole details of it but if you're going from St. Thomas to St. John a ferry was provided by the federal government and I think you pay $1 to get there.
>> Okay.
>> Uh why can't we see it that way that you you can't build a road you can probably build a nice big bridge but you can't build a road in the water. Mhm.
>> So, but but think of it, imagine it that you taxpayers should subsidize transportation between the islands just like we pay for the cost of roads between our villages and our cities. So, you know, if you're in another island in the BBI, you should not be disadvantaged. You should not um you should not have to bring your goods into into into um Row Town then pay another boat to take them over to to G to Andy Gather Virgin Garden. So your cost of your a building for you somehow should be subsidized. Why should you cost so much more money to live in and gather you live in the BBI? you don't need.
>> But is it that the cost of um of of it by you know the providers like the voting companies and so forth is it that their cost is of whack because I know that government subsidizes that already.
Um so I don't know how much more do you think uh government can subsidize or is there another way that we can you know give access to the sister islands.
Obviously government is subsidizing a boat or subsidizing a plane or subsidizing anything else. Government ought to have some idea of what the cost of >> Mhm.
>> of the transportation is. But um it it is difficult to to and I'm a businessman.
>> You can stay on the outside and assess from your side whether the cost is so much for the boat ride or not >> while the boat owner is facing higher fuel bills, higher >> u maintenance cost and higher material cost and so on. So I don't know. I'm I'm saying I don't know. But um the question you asked me is um about the sister islands, how we can improve them. We have to find industries for for the other islands. Everything shouldn't happen in Toronto. I even thought of the other day. Why should all the government offices be in Toronto?
>> Why don't you move the ministry of tourism to Virgin Order?
That's a tourism epicenter of the of the territory. Let's move the ministry of tourism there. They let the minister and his workers be in Virgin order. So that then people want to uh and that helps the economy of Virgin Order because you have more people living there working there. And it also gives a more um attention to bing as the tourism center >> of the BBI. It's the BBI totally totally in the BBI. The islands are not sister islands. They are islands in the territory.
>> So I I think we say sister islands, you know, but I think we're I think we mean sister islands all of us. So Virgin can say the sister island, right? So I mean it just kind over there. It's the same thing concept that everybody had to come to talk to everything.
>> Yeah. No, I totally agree with you in terms of that even spread it out. I mean >> even the ministry of um put the ministry of fisheries and environment in in I'm saying I'm just making a point.
>> Let's not consider them to be out not outcast but outside. they can be a part of the economy and when you you know when you when you decentralize government that's the point I'm making decentralize government from just to spread it through the territory just when like put something over there that we can just when I can feel part of it you know um and and so on so I'm saying you know these are things that you is it is not far it may sound far-fetched but when you start thinking about it why not >> okay how do you realize Uh but but but sorry but to get a little more specific on your question in terms for example Anigata >> um uh I think Anigata has the talking about it forever but has the strong possibility of being a center for um agriculture >> fisheries >> um it's flat it's even for agriculture regular agriculture has a lot of potential for that uh but how can we um I I raised the issue in my opening statement last week that I I've seen the Japanese go outside of an fish, carry the fish to to St. Martin, process their fish, ship them out to Europe and Japan.
That's not impossible to happen in Nigara. We can build a factory over there. We can get the fishermanmen to go out and do their fishing and come back in.
>> Do you know who gave them permission to operate in our waters?
>> I have no clue. Um and I'm sure nobody gave them permission, but nobody has stopped them either, you know. So, you know, and and and that probably can be done through an international effort using our UK >> our UK um um um relationship >> but something needs to be addressed there. I'm saying so you know it's it's it's but they continue why can't we go and do it?
>> We don't have to stop we don't have to put the effort to stop them now. We can go there and do the same thing. Um pelagic fishing is not a a myth. Mhm.
>> It's happened in Canada. It happens in other places where you can where you go out and do the fishing and bring in the big fish and you the tuna, the wahoos, the >> whatever and you you you you can export.
We can we can be we should be >> and export our fish and and and and and that type of thing. Mhm. How do you realistically plan to tackle issues like energy reliability, water security, sargasm management? That keeps coming up because it's it's a real problem. Um what are your priorities for port development and improving access and transportation?
>> Um there no I I going to remember most of them because they they're very prevalent in my mind.
>> So and and they're very good questions.
um water.
>> Um we got to stage in my time >> Mhm.
>> when we were able to pro provide water 24/7.
>> Mhm.
>> At least in Torto, >> we had challenges in Sec, you know, in that side of the island always and and the second district um virgin water could be improved. We we were addressing that when I was there.
>> Um and and so on. The water is an issue where I believe and and and I was putting that forward when I was there. I met a system that we inherited with the what they call a by water system where we decided to put one plant in a main main plant in Tortoola and spread water throughout the whole territory.
>> I I'm opposed to that. I believe if you can put a water a water dile in each area >> Mhm.
>> Uh Cali should have one.
>> Mhm.
um and it had before uh the bright water um area put out to seek out with people should have a water dile plant there that provide them with water every day for 24/7. Um we we have one in the eastern part of the island >> in in um in in in in Hodge Creek in that area. We we have one on the top of the hill. We have one in Par that that sends water from top of the hill to provide the rest of the country. Uh that continue we have one in Barers Bay decentralize my point is decentralize water production and get it to audit water should be a simple right of everybody when you go in when you when I I I my my office is in the sixth district in Portell >> when I go in at night and I turn the tap at 7:00 and there's no water again that's the that's the kind of expression you have why >> you know and so we definitely address the water system. Uh I believe uh you know we have we had proposed putting water and electricity cooperation together which we just did.
>> Um I I I was a proponent of that. I don't know whether it would work initially. So I would have initially at least tried to get what you might call a sub or a group that pays close attention to the water the water business. the water business is in dire need of very urgent attention.
>> Then you asked me uh about uh >> ports and so forth.
>> Ports and so on. Port is a big a big concern a big issue and it can be a big revenue maker.
>> Yeah.
>> What do I say about that and and I I I I haven't done enough research in it but I done I started some when I was minister >> what you call a transshipment port. Now how do I explain that very quickly and very easily? um world transportation now of of shipping moves imagine 10,000 containers on one ship >> but it happens comes from the far east comes down to the Panama Canal comes through the canal comes over to Atlantic side what happens when that ship get on the Atlantic side that ship that has 8 to 10,000 containers prefers to leave those containers somewhere in the Atlantic side in one place or one or two places.
>> Mhm.
>> And head that quickly to take up another shipment.
>> What that entails now is what you call trans shshipment.
>> So they leave the containers to move on to a smaller ship and that smaller ship moves them to many countries, USA, Caribbean, Central, South America, what wherever they go. And um so there are various many ports that accommodate that and make lots of money for the transmit for trans shipment fees. There's one now in Jamaica. There's one now in uh uh Domin Republic and I know there's I I visited one in Panama on the Atlantic side of Panama. I went up into the room where they were doing all of the movement of the containers by by computer and the the um the cranes are moving them around. So BVI is I'm told I don't know if that is true strategically located coming across on the Atlantic right >> where that makes it easy can we develop a trans shship shipment port >> I sat on on a hotel um I think it was the Mandarin in Hong Kong in the port of Hong Kong the port of Hong Kong is much bigger than the port of Rotown >> I I would not propose that the transient port go in Rotown because it's a lot of activity that might clog up road town but somewhere else but I sought on the Mandarin at the Mandarin note and saw many ships coming in in the port of Hong Kong and the cranes would move the containers from one ship to the next and they go to different places. This is not rocket science. Um um I met with the governor of Shenzhen in in China when I was minister and he was very keen on a cooperation to bring to use us as a trans shipment port in the Caribbean.
Okay.
>> The other things I post I can talk talk to you about. You know, it'll take a while. They I spent a lot of time with the cruise ship owners.
>> Yeah.
>> And they have various ideas about how we can continue to improve our crews.
>> Yeah.
>> Well, I have um I think I want to bring you back for round two, but I think I'll leave it for when you know we get a little closer and deeper into the um political season. So, I'm going to ask you just a couple more questions and then we're going to um start to wrap up.
I'm going to save some of these questions cuz people have a lot of questions.
>> I I am I'm happy, >> you know, for example, like you know, they want to know like, you know, all that you talk about how you're going to fund it. Uh, and I and I think you still have to go through a lot of this cuz you're developing your platform. So, it'll be hard for you to like just answer all of these questions uh right now. But >> I just gave you I just gave you just now the shipment port. Yeah, >> it's a big way how to find you will be it will make more >> fees than financial sources business.
>> It's it's an interesting it's an interesting avenue.
>> Yeah. One of the big questions people have is that you said like if you're elected hosting matter three months by like 3 months and I think you're saying if you're in a leadership role right um because you know they love hospital here. Um, I didn't say we because I'm kind of like averse to horse racing because I see it as, you know, a bit of animal cruelty. So, I kind of stay away from it, but it's a cultural thing. And so, you've like raised a lot of, oh, how is he going to do that? Like, >> well, let me say it's a horse racing.
Um, >> it's not culture, it's not bones. It is no doubt about it. You can't choose that. I grew up in Scott. Um and right next to my just across from my my my family home >> was um a gentleman we call him little man. He was a Ritter Ashley Ritter's >> I think I know who >> family used to call him little man.
>> He was he used to shoot the horses right there on the big man which week >> and in time for race day which was usually August Tuesday and >> and Boxing Day and some other things.
>> Um and so we all grew up with it. um uh you know and uh that's how we grew up in our villages right there. So the horse racing thing is something that a lot of people are keen to see come back. Now how it comes back is a question because uh you know the the the issue in CCO Bay is an issue that be we're concerned about >> and uh you know I learn as I go along that the CCO track is not uh what you call a track that's big enough for international standards >> uh but that served us in the past. Now can we get it back on track and get it working? There's a new proposal I'm hearing about that I would support that that that that brings it to a >> okay >> international level and makes it a really good um you know but you can still perhaps continue um with the cowboy race track until or even in between to have what you may call national races and another one with international >> because um I I do like high standards >> and if you can build another race track somewhere else to international standards uh for the future. We looking forward.
>> Yeah, >> we we should do that but still see how the track that is a part of that culture and that that that landscape down there can be reactivated and so on. So I I I I I would like to enter the conversation with the parties concerned >> in all areas.
>> Okay, I see. Because it's interesting I think it was ah it was either this week or late last week. Um I had one of the family members said to me like there's like no conversation happening at all.
Um they don't hear from the premiere. Um like everything is at a standstill. So I just wanted to definitely put that question in to see like how you get it done. I guess reopening conversation with the family would be um very important >> and conversation with the new proponent.
>> Well yes of you know have the conversation.
>> Yeah. I mean just in terms of like getting it going again while we >> Yeah, it's important. It's a it's a major part of our culture. So hospital thing hopefully can come back soon.
>> Yeah. So um so I want to ask you so this is here as well. If you were premier with pivoting a little bit if you were premier how would you handle the bank of Asia matter?
>> Any any any bank or any um any um financial institution >> Mhm.
uh should be uh handled through what we have set up the FSC group who looks at them. So the bank of agent matter was was uh has been put into liquidation >> and I don't know all the details of it and I I don't try to deep dive too deep into it but um the bank of Asia matter as would be in other case of any bank institution that is that becomes illquid um should be handled through the FSC and not through political a political and which is happening right now. Um so I I wouldn't have a lot of comment on it other than that. Um, I would say that banking, if you reduce your banking, the territory needs to address the banking needs of a territory. As a matter of fact, I'll tell you what I'll do right now. The National Bank of the Virgin Islands needs to become national.
The National Bank of Ba branch in Bian water and satellites in in Anigada and >> you're talking about sister islands >> that bring the family together, >> but the bank is struggling right now. So what would you how would you like fix it and then spread it out, >> right? That's a good good question.
>> Um the issue with the bank struggling I don't know if it's true or not but you you have said so the issue of the bank struggling >> tell me like there's >> I I haven't seen I haven't seen the reports recently I I was preview to you it when I was in cabinet.
>> Okay. Yeah.
>> But the bank the national bank of the Virgin Islands needs to be more needs to be better capitalized >> just like the issue that you have with the bank of Asia. Capitalization is an important thing if you want to grow and expand.
>> So the National Bank of Georgia need to better capitalize. Now how can that happen? One way of doing that and I've done this research before in fact I visited Kman Island National Bank. I visited St. Kiss National Bank. I visited St. Luc St. Lucia National Bank I think and so on. These are banks who are very successful national banks in St. Vincent St. Lucia Dominica they all successful in addressing the needs of the national.
you can invite them to participate in your national bank.
They would I I intend you know they'll be happy to invest in it. So you they you need to expand and grow your um your capitalization. Let me break it down for people because it it means um the the owners of the bank need to put in more money.
>> Yeah.
>> So that you can lend more money and do more things >> and be able to attract more deposits and so the bank can operate. You know, I come from I come from 15 years banking experience in formerly Barclay's bank.
So, I know how this works. I was at a senior level. I'm saying you can you you can grow the national bank of the void not to compete with any bank, but you have to find ways of capitalizing it better.
>> Um the government the government is a sole owner, the sole the sole owner of the capitalization.
>> Invite other capitalization into into the bank. maybe private capitalization, >> you know, to grow the bank and and and address the needs of the territory in a better way.
>> So, even that $5 million from the Bank of Asia would have better been stored instead of the national bank.
>> I I don't want to comment on that. We don't know what was the I don't know what was the thinking at the time of when the um whoever made investment there, but uh >> All right. So, like I said, I want to have you back in because there are a lot more questions that I want to ask you as you're preparing to go into the um into elections and possibly sit in the next house election. I want to ask you about the greedy bill. I want to ask you about the raises. I want to ask you about NHI.
I want to ask you about a lot of things.
So, I want to bring you back cuz >> I'd be happy to come back, but I want to make sure we cover you. One of the things, Cindy, that we do that people neglect when you're running for office.
And I'm going to hopefully um the people in the fourth district will accommodating it at their at their will.
But we talk always talk about projects, concrete ste. But people don't understand a representative first calling sometimes is more addressing the needs of the individuals in the constituency.
>> What are the needs of the individuals?
Um you know what help do they need? How can we better get the social things addressed? Um affordable housing, schooling for them. Uh a lot of people can't afford schools. Even the regular schooling, I'm not talking about college now. A lot of people in your constitu sometimes can't buy books, can't can't be able to afford clothing every day for their kids and so on. A a representative addresses those questions um always and you have to be constantly cognizant of that and how you can help your people in your in your district.
And so it's not always about concrete and steel like I always tell people.
True.
>> It's about the heart >> of the representative.
>> Yeah. who >> deal with people and address their needs in every way.
>> Yeah. But you know despite you know if you're elected and and you know you're representing the fourth district nobody will take it less of than you are the representative for the whole territory. Um you faced that before. So um so so yeah so they'll have these questions for you anyway. No matter that you're running for the fourth district, they still see you as Mark and we're gonna call Mark and Mark gonna get a project done and Mark is gonna so they're gonna look at that anyway. So I don't know what >> Yeah, that's how I am. I I I address >> I I tell people for example, we had when we had the floods before the >> before the hurricane and we I one thing with me when I'm representing the district, I I go and address the matters right away. When the floods happen 6:00 5:30 in the morning I'm in town I'm down in the ghetto I'm in places I'm seeing the water flooding the bedrooms I'm seeing their beds floating I'm seeing what do I do walk away and say hope for the best get ready to wash >> or what I go quickly I go to all of the furniture places I engage beds quickly because tonight tomorrow night people have to sleep on a bed so what do you do tell them let's wait till when um we pass a bill to get you help and no I I address it very tell if you box you before tell you immediately I address the matter. I had beds from bargain center from different places sent to their houses get them squared away at least get them somewhere comfortable to sleep for the night and then we addressed all the matters around that after the hurricane um the morning after I'm in Long Bush uh cleaned up the the long bush road I'm in at the roundabout in my old t-shirt in fact when uh Boris Johnson came here with the BBC >> at that time I was shocked when the governor brought him to meet me >> in my old clothes and around about helping to clear the roads because you can't just sit back and say you're the representative and you open up a tower office and choose an instruction when you have those kind of situations. You got to jump in on the ground >> and that's what I do. People know me for that. Um, you know, so that's what representation is about.
>> Yeah. So that's why I say yes, you know, you'll be the rep for district 4, but you know, like the people look at you as the rep for >> I am always you're not going to get away.
>> I I'm always anywhere.
>> Yeah. So, like I said, I'm going to bring you back, but I'm going to just ask you one question because, you know, the one last question. Uh, because, you know, the team is heading out to the UK shortly. Um, >> what did um what did the guy say? This is the big one, baby. And >> No, it's not the big one.
>> This is definitely not the big one. Um, so you can count. Oh, your heart was pumping.
>> No, no, I'm good. I'm good.
>> This This is going to be one of the mild interviews. As we get into the heat, you know, I'll put more pressure. we need answers to this to that.
um the changes that have been implemented or that are being implemented in terms of the new constitution. Um I don't know if you had a chance to look at what has come out um inside of the House of Assembly, what they've approved. Um just as a citizen, where do you come down on any other changes specifically like some that the people really wanted? like how do you feel about the ability to vote for say the premier um attorney general, deputy governor, these types of people? Um when do you come down on like term limits?
Like these are some of the things that the people wanted that did not end up in there. Um and if there's anything else in the constitutional review that they report that they put together that they're going after the UK with like can you talk to us about any of those or >> I haven't dealt with Italy and what were the final outcome from those system.
know what some of them uh that some of some of them that you just have just mentioned um and I believe I I believe in a way that the house assembly chopped up too much >> uh in terms of what they're going to represent over there >> and I don't know why that I don't know that's the reason why they back out asking questions again >> before going to London which is always better than just going without >> knowing the will of the people um but but for example one of the one of the the thing that I support strongly and in fact one of the reasons I was going to run at large was that I believe that all of the people >> should vote for the premier >> you know it's not so right now but I think that constitutionally that should be hopefully one day a change >> um and uh I look forward probably to the hopefully next review that that becomes the case >> um uh so you know I support that um the the Other things that that I support there Tom limits I I would have to look at that in terms of what is there certainly perhaps Tom limits for the premiership >> right that's what >> is what should be there in my view because you can have one person dictating the pace of the country's development for too long >> um so I I would be supportive of that for example >> um and and you know those things I I support so I I hope that they have a good constitutional um uh discussion with the UK >> and that because the constitution is is evolving.
>> Mhm.
>> Even if you go there and get a new constitution, next >> you can change it.
>> The next 10 years you need to be looking at it again. You know 2007 is almost 20 years.
>> 20 years now. And the idea of the last constitution after 2007 was to have a review every 10 years >> and we now 20 years behind. So some of the ideas that haven't been addressed and it should be this time hopefully as we evolve over the next 10 years we can address them and have another review before 20 years.
>> Yeah.
>> It's not always 10 maybe 12 maybe 15 but >> let's address it you know.
>> Yeah. Let me let's close up on what I hope >> that will happen in the constitution. Um because they have um in the premiere, my lovely premiere, he doesn't like me to use the word reject, but I feel like they have rejected a lot of what the people actually wanted.
>> Uh so at this point, you're actually not doing the will of the people. So, my hope is that the next government that goes in looks to um if it's not approved by the time we have the next election that it's pulled off the table and um a second look >> happens that um what the people want can actually be um put forward.
>> You always you always have to be able though to measure what the people want though in all fairness to him and the others. Um and I I don't agree I agree I I agree with you that there seems that the whole law that should still be there >> but sometimes how do you measure if one person come up with an idea that uh is ABC >> is that what people want and how do you measure what were the constitutional review group >> taking 100 people who said this and support this idea >> or was it just two or three people who brought it up and got into the into the review and it becomes >> well they'll have to accomplish for that. But those are measures that I feel like, you know, the House of Assembly should look at. So they've presented a report. We we we put them to do a job.
>> They did the job. Um so, you know, if it's and I think that they brought, you know, the consensus >> of what the people wanted after doing all these online meetings, the physical meetings, um all of these things that they did, they must have brought what the people want. I I don't think they would have come forward and say, "Well, two people wanted this, so we put it in cuz we thought it was a good idea."
>> And if you think that's the case, then drill them, >> figure out how they came to this to make sure that you said the important thing is that what was put forward was a consensus. So, >> so hopefully that's the case.
>> If it's not complete like completed where the UV has signed off um and it's still under drawing board, I hope the next government pulls it, reviews it. If it actually is passed, I would hope that the next government doesn't wait for the next 10 years to review it, but review it immediately because it does not represent >> represent a lot what the people wanted.
>> All right. So, I so thank you for being here. I wanted to tell you, tell me about Oh, two things before you go. One, you took my yellow. We had this conversation already.
>> Everybody knows he's done with my yellow.
>> And I and I say why last time what yellow?
>> I tell people why yellow >> for me. Yellow is courage for you. What?
>> That's the word that I use. You did all my stories taking everything.
>> Yellow is unity.
>> It brings people together. You have to >> if if somebody is distressed or lost, you put a whole yellow bag on the houses and in unity you could say >> it's unity.
>> Okay.
>> We our our tagline and PLM is um you know, one people.
>> Mhm.
>> One future.
>> Mhm.
>> One purpose.
>> One purpose. Yeah. So that's the yellow >> the yellowness in you.
>> Okay. Okay. All right. I'm going to close off on uh one point. So you see this bottle of water?
>> I got this from Walmart this morning.
Good.
>> Do you know how much I paid for one of these? But you do you know?
>> I don't know. I have a clue.
>> Do you want to Do you want to know?
>> No. Yeah. Tell me.
>> How much do you think I pay for one of these?
>> I don't I don't know.
>> How much would you pay for one of these >> if it if it was a different brand alter?
I don't know. Highland Springs it is for.
>> Yeah. Yeah. And I wouldn't I I wouldn't normally encourage you to buy Highland Spring during the show. But you you have a choice.
>> Yeah. Well, that was on the show. Of all the things there, this was the better one for me to pick up, right?
Because it's a spring water.
>> Um so the most spring water.
>> Yeah. Not the um >> there's some other ones that weren't there.
>> Um they weren't there. So this was the better one. But this cost me $165 for one. And I would bet you that the the taller bottle cost you less. You bought >> you bought a little one that is very expensive.
>> Why though?
>> Because of the cost of producing a smaller bottle um and so on. That that's what they they tell me all the time. All of our smaller bottles of water is more expensive than the bigger bottles.
>> You know what I told them? I said >> I said that I'm keeping my receipt.
>> Yeah. I'm going to interview Mark right now and I need to understand how this bottle of water cost $1.65 and I'm keeping my receipt because I want a refund.
>> You can take a $10.65 add another $2 probably and buy a case of it.
>> I agree.
>> The water. So you >> I agree.
>> You you're a high taste lady. You have to pay for my case.
>> But you know what something else that while we're talking about this water and we're going to close up right now cuz we're on the midday hour.
>> Okay.
>> Um >> let me just tell you where this water comes from. Yeah, >> Scotland.
>> Yeah, I know. I know. I'm familiar with um >> also these things. So, >> do you think though that we need to start looking at the water companies that we have in here? Like a lot of them are doing bottled waters and I know people have different tastes, but is that a direction that we should start looking at because importing um these waters, this is a part of the health risk that we're facing, how long they sit out in the sun and so forth and so forth. the water companies here. They're bottling them right inside the store.
You can see them out. And I know they're not doing it at a level that you know, but is there a conversation that can be open with these water companies to start to, you know, operate on an even bigger level to instead of importing all of this water in these plastic bottles and sitting out in the sun that we actually get it here?
>> Yeah.
>> Cuz our water is quite delicious to be honest. Our all water we producer is very good water and all the companies uh they just need to create and develop a bigger production level >> and in fact you would you would have to learn that a lot of the outside water companies that produce water >> um produce them in one factory and then bottle them in different labels.
>> So the the the cost to production is now spread across a bigger volume and so in a BBI that's something that the water company probably need to be addressed.
is the one in poor silver, one down in in three of them. Yeah.
>> You know, why why can't they have one production?
>> Mhm.
>> That cost a lot less because at the end of the day is what it cost the consumer.
>> Correct.
>> And the the other issues that government have to subsidize the the bottles that they bring in and so on, what do we charge them for those?
>> Mhm.
>> You know, plastic plastic imports cost quite a bit of custom duty >> and how how do we address those? And and then the shipping cost of the bottles um because the bottles are very bulky.
>> Mhm.
>> I I I bring I bring a 40ft container of water in and I can only ship 1,600 cases in that container. If it because of the weight, if it was something else, I could put double that amount in the container. So the shipping cost is less.
So I might buy water, for example, for $160 a case in in the United States.
>> But I paid $3 a case to ship it.
>> But it's ship that case. Yeah.
>> So, when you see me sell it for $4.99 or $2.99, I'm still at a loss.
>> It it's it's a fact.
>> But I'm saying uh you know, you can, as you said, you can come with better ways of probably producing the water in the BBI at a at a higher volume level and because the quality is very good, you know, for the local water.
>> Yeah, it is. It is. All right. Thank you for being here. Um Mark, it was a pleasure having you. Um Lauren, you're still here. You sat.
She's been our guest sitting in. She's been our audience today or sitting audience. Thank you for um sticking in saying we know where you stayed. I'm grateful to you for that guys. Thank you for tuning in. We're at the midday hour.
Our show is a little different this um today. We should have started at 9:00.
We started just after 10. So we ended up at 12:00. I want to say thank you to Homegrown Studios for allowing us to use their beautiful studio. And today, thank you Jubu. you're always, you know, um, available and I want to speak to you.
Some people ask me, "How do you get food to Jubo?" He doesn't answer me. He has to answer me. All righty. So, thank you, Jugu, for allowing us to use, um, Homegrown Studios. Thank you to our sponsors, CCTVI for always sticking and staying. Uh, Caribbean Sellers, Marketing AC, uh, Premier Insurance Limited, Frozen Imports. Thanks to you guys. Uh, you guys got the menus for today and all of that. I can't go over it again. I apologize. Remember, Sunday is PA run, so get your boat in gear. Uh, Speedies is gonna have a boat as well. They're gonna leave um, Trellis Bay at 9 and um, no, they're gonna leave Trellis Bay at VG at 9 and Chis Bay at 9:30 and they're going to follow um, the path and then head over to Wingada at the end of the day. So, it's a holiday weekend as well.
Monday is wait Monday. So, have a fabulous weekend everybody and I will see you guys on Tuesday. All right, take care.
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