"IF YOU HATE TWERKING, HATE IT UNIVERSALLY" Man PUSHES BACK, Double Standards?

Added: 2026-05-25

[00:00:00]We know when they twerking on a car, that's not for fertility. That's That's What is that? That's hypersexuality.

[00:00:04]That has nothing to do with our culture.

[00:00:07]There is definitely like a disconnect because why? It's a unsavory behavior.

[00:00:10]And you know why it's unsavory? Because you will not get your daughter head between the washing machine and the dryer you caught her doing it.

[00:00:15]>> Is that a fair statement from your experience? Majority of the music is about sex most of the time. Yes or no?

[00:00:22]I'm not putting that on you. Okay, what else? Is that a Girlfriend. They like the girls twerking in the back of the music video. They like the girls twerking in the back of the music video.

[00:00:29]Okay, I'm going to talk about twerking cuz you know, I have a complex view on twerking. Now, culturally when I look at other cultures, a lot of cultures got some form of twerking in it. The hula, the belly dance, the African fertility dances. But, it's kind of different in the videos. Would you say it's different in the kind of baddie culture? Oh, your face got all screwed up. I LOVE IT IN ACTION. TELL ME WHY. BREAK DOWN WHAT'S going on.

[00:00:55]Oh, she What's different? Let's Let's differ No, let's talk about it. What's different cuz now good hand. What's different about the cultural expression, which may be sexual when you see different cultures having sensual parts in their dance or in their expression, but particularly how it shows up with like baddies? And what's different about it? You You You You You. Uh I feel like uh cultural like they they don't wear as much as revealing clothes. Mhm. What's different? Like some people do it for the male gaze and then some people just do it just because they're >> Ooh, somebody got deep for the male gaze. Somebody reading and listening to a podcast. Okay. What is the male gaze?

[00:01:33]Quick break.

[00:01:34]Um the male gaze is like the attention span of a man. The attention span of a Oh, lord. What were you going to say? Um I'm going to say like cuz the culture like wise of twerking, like some of it does it for the history of it and then in others it could be like on top of cars like bikinis, booty shorts, and it's for the music. It's a little So, is it fair to say that some of the sexual expression that you're starting to see in your reality shows, in your music, you're telling me is not the same kind of expression that you see in like cultural heritage and history. It's a little different. Yes. So, what is that?

[00:02:15]What is the difference? What is that?

[00:02:17]You know how you taste something and you're trying to figure out what it is.

[00:02:20]What do you think it is? I think it's entertainment. You want some help?

[00:02:24]It's called exploitation.

[00:02:26]Mhm.

[00:02:27]Yes. It's called capitalism. Mhm. Okay.

[00:02:30]Right? And what we need to understand is that the world will exploit your mind, the world will exploit your heart, it'll exploit your energy, and it will exploit your body. Mhm.

[00:02:47]The only way to not allow that to happen is for you to have control over it.

[00:02:53]And if you don't, you'll be a lot like some of your peers where you're like, "How did I get into this situation?" You got to be able to control what goes into your what? Body.

[00:03:04]Your mind. You got to control what goes into your what?

[00:03:06]>> HEART.

[00:03:07]YOUR WHAT? ENERGY. Your what? Body. Do we really um agree with her is it it's a different if it's a culture? I know MYD had something on that for sure.

[00:03:18]Do we really agree >> Yes, there's a difference.

[00:03:21]Is that fair or not?

[00:03:23]Yeah, absolutely not. Not at all.

[00:03:25]Uh I think the point she made about I think the point she made about capitalism was maybe spot on because there's a thing that kind of irked me.

[00:03:33]Like what I was pointing out earlier.

[00:03:35]So, you could get naked and and and and and and twerk down the street in a parade and that's cultural.

[00:03:43]But if a a a um a black American woman get naked and start twerking, her ass just a degenerate [ __ ] My [ __ ] no. If you if you an issue with twerking in these circumstances, you need to have the same issue with twerking universally. Now, what tend to happen and what people think I'll be like hyper fixated on, but I'm really not, it's just people tolerate so much [ __ ] disrespect that they don't see what I'm looking at. What tends to happen is people will take us and say, "Okay, we see y'all on TV all the time.

[00:04:12]We see you in these positions all the time, and we're going to hold you to this unrealistic expectation of humanity."

[00:04:19]And then make all these derogatory uh prescriptions as far as who we are and what we got going on, while simultaneously excusing those uh activities and differences in somebody else. The lady brought up belly dancing, uh what she say, African fertility, and all Essentially, it was women gyrating their waist, hips, and potentially they they if they have an ass, their ass, and their titties. But, when black American do us women do it, somehow it's the bane of all existence, and these women just hoes. When other women do it, it's just cultural. Like, playing this, we can excuse something based off I'm I'm not going for that [ __ ] We We We be tolerating a whole lot of disrespect strictly based off I know that's why I hate Pan-Africanism so much, cuz it in my opinion, right, the way I view it, Pan-Africanism ran around the world telling people we have no culture. So, when they look at us, they then start to say, "That's not cultural. That's just these people being ratchet. That's not this." And then you you mix Pan-Africanism in with capitalism and exploitation, cuz I do agree that that is exploitation. For example, if I went to uh the village in Africa where they're doing the fertility dance, right? And I start just filming these women in exploitative nature, or filming them uh uh with with their titties out in the the grocery store, cuz I watched the a video in Africa where they the women of a tribe went into a a grocery store, and they didn't have no shirt on, just bare titties, right? That was cultural. If women in America would have got together and did that [ __ ] they would have been the biggest horse that have ever existed. But women in France will protest with no shirt on all day. I have yet to see a group of black women walk around with no shirt, just nipples hanging out everywhere all day. But yet somehow everybody fixates theirself to say black American women are the problem and all this other [ __ ] If it ain't all the women doing this [ __ ] I'll be damned if I sit around and let a [ __ ] point at my people specifically and try and pigeonhole them and just keep picking and beating on them. I'm coming with all the smoke all the time forever for anyone that tends to highlight another culture and talk [ __ ] to mine. I don't give a [ __ ] if you're from this culture or outside of it. I got all the smoke for you. That's That's my general my general stance on all this [ __ ] I'm so sick of it cuz And And it'll be us tolerating that [ __ ] And again, it's back to [ __ ] Pan-Africanism cuz the Pan-Africans ran around telling people we have no culture, no language, no people, no history. And now everybody's saying that same [ __ ] to us. The Pan-Africans They got the reciting the damn same thing as the [ __ ] white supremacists. A lot of this [ __ ] that people be saying to us is white supremacist white supremacist rhetoric coming back at us from these other people and they heard that [ __ ] recited through Pan-Africans and that [ __ ] spread through them. And they all say, "Oh, well, uh we we black now. We can do this." But when you're talking about black Americans, you're specifically speaking about us. But with everything else, you're not really talking about your group cuz if I isolate your community, you're salty.

[00:07:09]But you felt comfortable saying that slick [ __ ] about my community. No, so you're separating in that moment. If when I'm talking about your community, you're offended and you was just saying the same thing about mine, that's a whole problem for me. Yeah, um so I was just going to say that it's one thing if And again, I I definitely agree with the teacher that a lot of interpretations of our cultural expressions have been exploited. And even if you are not African-American, your culture has been exploited as well.

[00:07:41]And sometimes we get a bad habit of as long as they are proclaiming that to be our culture, we grab on to it whether it's positive or negative. In terms of the dancing, we got to really look at it for what it is. Like MYT, you're hitting on some great ass points, but there is a clear cultural difference between someone that is dancing for fertility, religion, and then somebody that is dancing regardless of their culture and who they are. Skin, skin, skinfolk, kinfolk, it don't matter. Whoever it is, it's a difference between you dancing for a cultural purpose of like fertility, rain making, etc., and then you just being like that teacher was saying, exploited, and you're dancing for the male gaze as the young lady so eloquently put it, as well as hypersexuality. That has nothing to do with our religion, that has nothing to do with positivity, that has nothing to do with the true arts of femininity. You just you're just being nasty, and you're just being reckless. And I get it, like, you can express yourself as much as you want. And I'm serious about the culture, too, but distasteful, like you're saying, it's distasteful. But if it's not representative of the culture, we can't just say just because black women are doing it, it's cool.

[00:08:46]Cuz it's not.

[00:08:48]We know when they're twerking on a car, that's not for fertility. That's That's What is that? That's hypersexuality.

[00:08:53]That has nothing to do with our culture.

[00:08:55]There's definitely like a disconnect because why? It's a unsavory behavior.

[00:08:58]And you know why it's unsavory? Because you'll knock your daughter's head between the washing machine and the dryer if you caught her doing that. So, I get it, but I don't feel like it's acceptable, neither, if I just It's There's a difference, but again, I I agree with your points, as well. I land.

[00:09:16]Yeah, so if you can >> No, no, no. Marcus made valid points. What I was going to ask is where would you say, cuz Pearl did, too, so I don't want to overshadow that at all. I think you articulated it great. I would ask what would be the stage. Cuz like like I respect Marcus' position on the community and protecting our image, especially when it comes to people trying to crucify it, you know, in the in the worst of ways. But, I would say where's our stage? Mainly because when I think about um let's say maybe uh a Greek woman or a Spanish woman or a Middle Eastern woman, and she is acting in a manner of showcasing a dance, it typically belong somewhere. Like, I don't typically see that happen in the middle of Target or anywhere like that. So, where would you say our stage is, Mark?

[00:10:04]A dirt road with no shoes.

[00:10:10]Right.