‘Nigel Farage’s New Policy REWARDS Working People’ | Reform UK Pledge To Scrap Income Tax

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[00:00:00]Every aspect of our great country is broken. We have a rich and extraordinary history in which for centuries we have punched above our weight militarily, economically, strategically, diplomatically. And I have no doubt that with the right leadership and under the right management, our greatness can be reawoken. It isn't actually complicated.

[00:00:26]We just need cheap energy which will bring down inflation which is a tax on everyone especially the poor. The ideology of net zero has got to be thrown out the window. Instead let's have a mix of nuclear green renewables and fossil fuels which are available in plentiful supply on our own shores. We need proper border control. The boat crossings should be reduced to zero annually and legal migration should be in the region of 50,000 per year with a commitment to contribute to the economy to speak to the language to a very high standard to obey the law to participate in the culture and values of this country and to integrate. It isn't complicated. We need to reverse the great crime of the Boris wave. 2.6 6 million people brought into the country over 5 years, half of whom will never work and which presents the taxpayer with a long-term bill of a reported quarter of a trillion pounds. You heard me right. 250 billion is the bill that comes with the Boris wave. And most importantly, we need to change the culture of this country so that it pays to work. I've run out of examples of callers and listeners who have phoned into the show and texted me and left voice notes saying that they're they're at the tail end of a 12 or 14 hour shift.

[00:01:55]They're into their fifth, sixth, seventh day of working, who feel completely punished rather than rewarded for the hours they are putting in. Which is why I welcome this new announcement from Reform UK and Nigel Farage to scrap income tax on overtime for anyone earning up to £75,000.

[00:02:19]That is the right economic policy and is the right messaging too. That it pays to work. This rewards people for putting in those extra hours. It's quite clear that overtime for many people is a matter of survival. That is how they actually go out of the red into the black is the extra hours that they work, which is why it's such a crime to tax them for their extra toil. Now, old Nigel is going to have to dot his eyes and cross his tees and make sure that this isn't exploited.

[00:02:50]And of course, he's going to have to pay for it. 5 billion quid is the bill of this policy. If you ask me, that is money well spent because we need to change the attitude to work. Now, I was in my local supermarket yesterday. I will tell you, it was a waitro. Very, very nice. I I go to all the supermarkets. I get some of the basics from Aldi. I don't mind a Tesco. I enjoy a Saints and I will indulge in a waitro, a very good supermarket. And there was a guy in there and he was working hard and he was unpacking bottles of sparkling water onto the shelves. And he was uh putting a shift in. And we chatted a bit about the weather and we were talking about the bank holiday and the heat wave. And I said, "Oh, have you got tomorrow off?" And he went, "No, no, I'm working tomorrow." "Have you got Monday off? Bank holiday Monday?" "No, no, no, no. Tuesday?" "No." He said, "I'm working right through until Thursday."

[00:03:42]There's no bank holiday. This guy's on overtime. Why? Well, because he's serving the business he works for. He's helping his colleagues and he's paying the bills.

[00:03:52]No special break for him. No holiday, no sunbathing. And that demonstrates the issue in this country that the people that do the right thing, that put the hours in, they're the mugs. Because this guy work a waitress, he'll have neighbors who are sat at home chowing down Domino's pizza and watching Netflix and guzzling bottles of Diet Coke and God knows what else whilst he puts a shift in and misses the entirety of the sunny bank holiday weekend. The incentives are so wrong. Don't forget it was revealed 2 weeks ago that 600,000 households are better off not going to work. Make it make sense. It is insanity. So folks, it's got to pay to work hard. And if not, the price we all pay will be colossal.

[00:04:42]909 talk. Sarah is in West Sussex. Good morning, Sarah.

[00:04:47]>> Oh, good morning Mark. I'm just going to take you off a speaker. Nice. Nice to speak to you.

[00:04:51]>> Well, look, I'm so glad you called the show and you've got some detail on how it works in the NHS.

[00:04:57]>> I have. Yes. So, the NHS has has actually embedded within its um rotors a 12-hour shift system. And the reason that they have that is because they they don't actually get overtime, but they get what is called unsocial hours premiums. and the uh the junior doctors, I beg their pardon, the resident doctors have also now negotiated something similar for themselves. So in effect, if I just if I just rattle through this quickly >> um >> all right, here we go. So if you are a if you are a band two, um you would get 41% on top of your shift and for working Sundays and public holidays, you get 83%.

[00:05:43]If you are band three, it's 35% and 69%.

[00:05:48]And if you are band four to band four to nine, which includes band five, which is the qualified nurse, the first level of qualified nurse, that is um 30% and 60%.

[00:06:00]So they are already being rewarded for um that 12-hour shift system that they're doing. They don't get overtime because they have toil time off in lie.

[00:06:11]Um but obviously with with that um they get a very generous um uh number of holidays over and above the statutory holiday. I don't begrudge any of them this but I I do find it slightly >> um irking when somebody rings and says you know well I'm doing the 12-hour shift as if they're some kind of hero when actually that is what it is what it is. You've signed a dotted line. you have you've signed up to do a 12-hour shift and this is what you get. And I would implore both Nigel Farage and Richard Ty to actually have a look at the terms and conditions of teachers of um in fact all of the public sector because you would be a go at the sorts of things that we are paying for as taxpayers. So although he wants to and it's it's an admirable idea. I I support what Nigel is going is proposing to do.

[00:07:08]I just think um we also need to be looking at the affordability of the public sector terms and conditions because they are they are incredibly generous. M your previous caller who's talking he's still working at the age of 70. He could no way afford the sorts of terms and conditions that are that um our public sector receive. So I think it's there's a double side to this and they also need to look at at at um that that side of it as well.

[00:07:38]>> Well, you're so right to point that out that this generous policy could be exploited by the public sector who have the sort of contract and work arrangements which already accommodate the idea of overtime which is not a luxury enjoyed by those in the private sector. Sarah, >> no. No, absolutely not. I mean, I'm glad you said that. And the devil will be in the detail, won't it? It's critically important. Um, do you support the principle that if, I don't know, an HGV driver does extra hours in the week that they're not taxed on it?

[00:08:10]>> I mean, I know with um with HGV drivers, some of their working practices are particularly the hours that they work are cailed from a safety point of view.

[00:08:19]So, I I that's that's quite a a difficult one to say. I suppose in principle yes why should they not be rewarded for if they if they go above and beyond their working hours but if it starts encroaching on a sort of safety issue then that's not only their lives but it's other people's isn't it?

[00:08:37]>> Yeah. Well Sarah I mean I think you should be in that reform cabinet advising because the the devil is in the detail isn't it? And it could either be a very successful policy or a spectacular failure based upon how it's administered. What do you feel? What do you make at the moment of the world of work? I mean, do you feel it still pays to work hard in this country?

[00:08:58]>> Um, from well certainly since we've had this administration, I don't think it does. We've got much higher unemployment um and you know, we we've got people who although they may have um increased their sort of national minimum wage, the fact is that they will have seen some of their colleagues go or they will have had their hours reduced or something of that nature. So it the the whole idea that um I mean Rachel Reeves may have good manners, but she certainly has got the e economic prowess of a donut.

[00:09:30]>> Well, everything's got worse, hasn't it, Sarah? The numbers don't lie. Inflation is is up. I mean, it corrected down briefly, but apparently it's going to double in the year. We've got non-existent growth. We've got uh the return of unemployment, especially youth unemployment, which is a big worry.

[00:09:44]Borrowing through the roof. I mean, there's there's just no good news, is there?

[00:09:49]No, no, there really there really isn't.

[00:09:52]And it will only get worse. And you get crumbs with these um be being given out with uh the sort of museums and um the VAT being lowered on trips to Alton Towers, but I mean there's there's no um understanding of how do they how do they get there? I know they've done something with with train travel and things like this. I mean it's just it's >> But is that the best use of taxpayers money? Cheap tickets to Alton Towers?

[00:10:17]>> No. No, not >> I mean you could take your kids to a library or museum, both of which are free.

[00:10:24]>> Exact. Exactly. So I think there's yet again another misunderstanding of the world. It's not just the world to work.

[00:10:32]It's literally how the world actually um is put together. And of course they see anything that is u remotely capitalist as the enemy.

[00:10:42]>> So it's all ideological. They they they work they run from emotion, not from anything pragmatic at all.

[00:10:50]>> What what do you think is the answer?

[00:10:51]Because I think we can all agree the country needs radical change. Where do you stand on reform? And Nigel, for example, >> okay, probably not. Um I I um I'm not a member of reform. I do like some of the things that they're going to do, but I'm I I am opposed to some things that they want to do like the reationalization programs that they're putting together.

[00:11:14]I'm not I've worked in the utility sector. I I I know the the sort of machinations o of that and why our um energy is expensive not only from the point of view of of the levies that are actually on there but um the with with the situation with reform. I'm I'm not sure that um Nigel is the right personality for PM. Let's take Boris. So Boris was fantastic at campaigning. He's he's a he he's no one can deny that. But from the point of view of being a a prime minister, he he did leave some things to be desired. And I'm not sure that Nigel is has has got the same sort of um uh I don't know, leadership I suppose from um for example like Winston Churchill or somebody like that perhaps.

[00:12:14]>> Oh gosh. Yes. Yeah. What's the difference between someone like Nigel and Thatcher or Churchill then? What's the missing link? Is is it snake oil that he's selling? Is is he just the eternal campaign or what's the issue?

[00:12:26]What is the doubt you have in your mind about Nigel?

[00:12:29]>> Well, it it is very much the um down to some of some of the policies. But I do think unfortunately as the Robert Low Nigel Farage debacle showed that there are some rather large egos involved and I'm sure there are in with a lot of politicians. But what concerns me is that that element of the personality will become too too strong.

[00:12:55]>> Well, what you're saying Sarah without putting words in your mouth, I suspect is who is Nigel going to fall out with when he becomes prime minister? Mhm.

[00:13:03]Yeah.

[00:13:04]>> Yeah. Wow. What a what a fascinating conversation. Sarah, we're going to catch up soon. What are your plans for the bank holiday weekend?

[00:13:11]>> Oh, we're just off to go down to to the beach to a lovely um cafe that we know down there and have a have a nice brunch.

[00:13:18]>> A bit of brunch and a big steaming hot coffee. Sarah, you've earned it. What a brilliant conversation. We will speak soon. Have a great one with your friends and family over the bank holiday weekend. Big Richard is in St. Helens.

[00:13:30]Morning, Rich.

[00:13:32]Morning Mark. How are you?

[00:13:33]>> I'm very well. Lovely to have you on the show. It looks like Robert Low and Nigel Farage are cancelling each other out. If you look at Makerfield, it would appear that the support for Restore is going to give Andy Burnham a victory. What's your reaction?

[00:13:53]>> Um, to be honest with you, I I I actually live 10 minutes the open.

[00:13:59]>> Yeah. Um, and from what I can from what I can gather, there's a a response room for all. So, what >> I tell you what, it's a deadly line, isn't it? Should we try and get the line back to Rich because uh, it's very important what he's got to say. We're going to get more reaction to this.