In Catholic eschatology, a divine decree is an unchangeable order from God (like the virgin birth), while a prophecy is a conditional warning that can be changed through prayer and sacrifice (like the Fatima prophecy about World War II). The Antichrist with a capital 'A' is being prepared to arrive on the world stage as a peacemaker and savior, preceded by two trigger events: changes to the Catholic liturgy and severe military conflicts in Europe. God will intervene before either event occurs, manifesting His divine mercy through 'The Warning' - a 42-day period of universal conversion where everyone, including atheists and agnostics, will experience complete lucidity about God's existence and the Catholic Church's founding on St. Peter.
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"The Antichrist Is Being Prepared" - Xavier Reyes-Ayral on The Warning & 3 Days of DarknessAdded:
Another message from Maximus. Oh, that sounds a very Roman name. Maximus says that we ought to talk a bit more of the antichrist.
Uh, Father Michelle has talked quite extensively on that subject. Uh, yes.
What we know I got I got your message, Maximus.
>> Well, this is what Father Michelle told us. There is an antichrist with a capital A, right, Monique? And there are other antichrists plural with an s and a manusc.
And um let's begin with the smallest the small antichrist. According to father Michelle he was told that there are right now three principal little antichrists with little. There is an antichrist that dominates principally the entire world uh international financial uh sphere particularly in the west. No, it could be the the international monetary system, the international banks, the swift systems, but it is an antichrist that work together within and there are some constraint we cannot say.
That's why sometimes you hear when father Michel talks he mentions them and in order not to be cancelled in this system YouTube we cannot permit those words to come out. So we say stone cutters let the hearer understand. So there are a lot of lodges that are stone c cutters that dominate principally all the elite spheres of social stations in the principal western countries of the world now including as I mentioned earlier the international bank international fin monetary system and so on and so forth that's one little a according to father mish the other little a is a underground government leader that uh also um moves and plays principally as the principal head of state you could say of the western alliance.
And the third little a antichrist is a um it would be one that would have or rule a great deal of influence within all religious spheres. It could be the within the United Nations. But one thing that father Michel has said that is very clear, Pope Francis is not [snorts] the antichrist.
Um the antichrist now and I'm with a capital A. I'm trying to be extremely careful what I'm to say because there are things that can can be said and others that can't. Mhm.
>> So I am trying to to be extremely careful and I I ask you all since I know that uh except one or two exceptions.
Well tonight there was only one. You all think only the best people thinking of the worst. Um the antichrist with a capital A um is preparing to come in the scene.
Oh, I have to be very careful.
>> Yeah, I thought the one with a capital A was the one for who will be here at for Armageddon.
>> That's not that's another one. But father Misha said in these times of ours there is one with a capital A that whose arrival is being prepared and I I I cannot say by whom because if I do then we would be it would not be prudent. But this big antichrist will lead, shall we say, will enter within the international the international religious sphere.
Well, I please forgive me. I'm being very unskillful. But if I said the the full sentence, there will be consequences and I don't think that would be that's what we want. But just u his arrival on the on the religious scene is being prepared. That's all I can say. I He will be seen as a as a peacemaker, a savior.
And what they need that there are these forces that want to dro destroy the church and all that. They want to make sure that countries lose their sovereignty so that he can come as a savior. So, hence all the revolutions and civil wars and whatnot that we're going to we're we're about to see. Yes.
>> Gracilla Francois says, "When God gives a decree, it will happen unlike a prophecy which can be changed by the response of the prayer and sacrifice of the people." Correct. Uh Graciella Gracela. Yes, that's exactly what Father Hane, you took this probably from one of his books. Father Laurent used to say exactly that. Then I had an not an argument but a conversation once uh with Christine Watkins actually on a telephone conversation and she was telling we were talking about it all and there was confusion I think about prophecies no not taking not taking place and so on and so forth. So I told her very clearly what father lord told taught me years ago that there are two kinds of statements that heaven proclaims. There is one which is called a divine decree. A divine decree is when God decrees through the prophets for instance that uh the his son will be born of a virgin and that is not that is a prophecy but it is a divine decree. It's an order.
It's something that cannot be changed because it's the decision of God. A prophecy on the other hand um is when an admonition, a warning of sorts is being proclaimed for one purpose and one purpose only. It is not to be cru a cruel God and say you will be punished because you've done this and nothing can stop your sentence. No, a prophecy according to Father Rene Lora is an admonition, a warning from a loving God who through the imploring and loving voice of his mother asked us to pray, to fast, to change our lives so as to change the normal course of said prophecy.
One example and then I give you the floor. uh Manique very quickly Fatima that's a contemporary operation where the version when she addressed herself to the children of Fatima she said very clearly unless you return to my son and convert there will be a second world war unless you return to my son and convert Russia will spread her errors well this is on the conditional tense it was subject to the response of humanity >> no so I hope that answers your Yes, it wasn't Christine Watkins. It was Arnold Deush.
>> No, it was a conversation I had with Christine on the subject of the difference between decree, divine decree and uh and of course what the prophecy was.
>> It's interesting all these channels have very interesting perspectives. It's all different, but okay. So, um Oh, there was a question about the grapes. When I say half a grape a day, someone asked if it meant that we had to cut the grapes in half. No, you don't cut them in half.
You want to have grapes that are that that aren't blemished, that don't have a hole in them because you need to keep the stem a piece of the stem on each one so that they are um they remain um intact, you know. So, I I try to get the nicest grapes I can. I try to get the smallest grapes I can to fit as many in as I can. And um and yeah, you'll only need half each day when the time comes in faith. Of course, you will be hungry, but you will not die from starvation.
You you'll be nourished. Okay, we have a question here. Safia, please ask Father Michelle. It's true. If anyone knocks on our door right before the three days, we have to make them to recite a special prayer. I've never heard of this one.
Ted, have you? I've I do not know uh where Mrs. Santos Seedo heard this. She probably heard it from somewhere. It did not come from uh Father Michelle. Uh there there were other questions that I've seen as well uh which stated and I'll come back to you Maximus. Uh but um um other questions that involved for instance if we are all going to be in the refues uh and you heard father Michelle tonight's episode where he said that he was shown from space the world and he show he was shown the movement of all the continents and those lands. But he said that those who will be in the refues will not feel anything.
For a land of this massive um proportion to move like this >> visible to the eyesight would have to cause extraordinary massive destruction on said lands. So and a lot of people are asking timelines.
The best timelines I can give you is this.
We know that the warning will take place in the midst of a military conflict in Europe will be a geopolitical crisis. I think we already are in one and it will take place when two major events will be about to happen. One, the liturgy of the consecration of the Eucharist will be changed by the Catholic Church.
The second one it will be when the course of this military conflict in Europe will be so severe and so grave that man heads of state will be about to push on red buttons.
God will not tolerate either one of those two events to take place and thus will manifest for the last time his divine mercy upon the world by letting everyone uh go through the experience of the warning which will be everyone seeing the state of their own souls the way God sees them himself in order to change everyone even the agnostics even the atheists those who do not believe in God will finally have a moment of complete and total lucidity and they will know all of them that God exists and that God has a son with Jesus Christ and that Jesus Christ founded only one church the Roman Catholic and apostolic church upon St. Peter when he said to Peter, you are Peter and on this rock I will build my church. Everyone in the world who has the age of reason or who is above the age of reason will know this fact. It will be a moment of utter shock for everyone me first.
Uh and the lines of confession will be unending. It will be for 42 days a moment of massive conversion throughout the world. And then we know that after 42 days uh the devil will be unchained because during the warning Satan will be chained according to the revelations made by God the father to father Michelle. He will not be able to lead man astray to his position with the usual means the conventional means he's been using as of late. But that does not mean that God will that man will lose his liberty, his freedom of choosing between good and evil. He still will have it. But the devil will not use his usual and conventional methods to lead men astray.
After those 42 deaths, the devil will be freed. And then there will be a consortium or a a community of international scientific scientists who will declare that they've recorded the most aggressive and massive solar storm ever recorded in the scientific journals and annals in history. It will be such a heavy uh solar storm that it will be the cause for the downfall of a fleet of satellites and will be given the cause for what these scientists will call a universal international mass hallucination.
They will try to put that on the account of this solar flare. Unfortunately, it will be so well presented. they will be so believable that the great majority of humanity will believe and will abandon their um journey to Damas as we say in French journey to Damas like St. Paul conversion that's where he converted but and this is remarkable God the father promised father Michelle that all the souls I repeat all the souls we will maintain their faith firm in God in the Roman Catholic and apostolic church in the fact that this event the warning truly came from God who will be in a state of grace and consecrated to the sacred heart of Christ and to the immaculate heart of Mary will be called to seek refuge through the manifestation of their own personal uh guardian angels. That is a tremendous message of hope. Then the war will continue and these events and the chastisement will continue and the last phase of this chastisement as father Michelle said it tonight earlier will be sealed with the three days of darkness which will be an event or permitted and ordained by God a last purification of sorts to eliminate from the surface of the earth all the enemies of religion. Those are the words that were used by French stigmatist Mari Julie Jahi.
Is there Oh, Maximus was asking me another question. Maximus, can you can you retape again your question, please?
Your second one that is this is Rene. You want to answer that one, Monique?
>> Yes. I have a question to ask Father Michelle mentioning something regarding that no one can touch the holy sacrifice or something like that. Is he speaking about trying to change the holy sacrifice? He means no one has a right to change the words of consecration.
Transubstantiation happens when the words of our Lord are said. And so we do not no one can change that. But they will. They are working on a liturgy that will change the words and therefore the meaning. And um Father Maliki Martin, I was just listening to one of his incredible talks. Father Malaki Martin was saying that there are so many priests and bishops out there and cardinals who no longer believe in the true presence and this will be reflected in this new liturgy. they will um make it a memorial which and it's it's funny I always wondered about this question of in remembrance of me during consecration and I thought well if he's the true presence then why do we say in remembrance of me and I looked into it and apparently in Jewish tradition that that line in remembrance of me to remember means to bring to bring the past into the present to to be to get back to so so that they are united. Past and present are united.
Um so it it's so it is the true presence of Christ. We say in remembrance because we are uniting those of the past and we're both we're all together before this you know the last supper at the table watching him give himself and we're together at the foot of the cross watching him give himself.
So that's the meaning of in remembrance.
It's not a memorial.
It's uniting with the past in in in the present. So there we go.
>> That's beautiful. Beautifully said. Um Maximus, I got your second question. I will answer it. I put a question there.
You erased it. Oh, there was a lady called Vicki who was answer question asking a question about obedience and obedient being obedient to the bishop. I believe in memory serves uh a bishop that said there will be no more purgatory after the warning obedience to the bishop. Yes. And normally I would agree with always obedience to the but in a day and age uh Vicki one bishop will say something contrary than another. Which of the two are we to believe? The problem that we are facing today concerning the division between bishops against bishops, cardinals against cardinals. Remember that's part of the third secret of Fatima. That's part of the of the message of uh uh Akita on October 13th, 1973. That's the message that also was given to father goby who soon one day will be canonized.
The the church is going through a civil war, Vicki. A civil war. Whether I I find no pleasure in telling you this. I would give anything for the church to be one again. But there everyone is divided. We just heard this charming lady Francis. No, she did not agree with us and it was she was on the aggressive.
I'm sure she's a charming lady. I'm certain of it. She's of good faith. But there is bitterness.
There is animosity.
There is um there is a civil war inside the church. Every Catholics are not do not have their hearts beat as one anymore.
There are too many controversies. So obedience yes like father like bishop strickland said yesterday obedience first and foremost comes to obedience to the teachings of our lord Jesus Christ in the gospels. Obedience to the dogma of the faith. obedience to the catechism [clears throat] particularly that of 1992 because today I submit to you all the church is completely divided. It's a civil war. On one hand, we have the pulgressist that are in favor of fiduci that are in favor of putting images of the patch mama on the altars that are in favor of um Amoris Latitia to give communion to spouses of Catholics who them spouses that are not even Catholic who have not gone through the proper process to be cath to convert to Catholicism. And we have those Catholics uh like his eminence Cardinal Bach, his eminence Cardinal Sara, his eminence Cardinal Mueller, Bishop Schneider, now Bishop uh Strickland, so many others.
All the friends of father Lora are all joining father Cardinal Burke, Sara, Zen, Mueller to maintain and protect the faith that our fathers loved and followed and their fathers before then and theirs before them for 20 centuries.
We must pray for Pope Francis. We must pray for all the reformists that are trying to create something new. And remember, as Monique said it very well at the very beginning of the show, we're not forced to believe in Father Michelle. We're not forced in fact to believe in any apparition site. It's not obligatory. It's not a sin according to the church, not to believe in Fatima, not to believe in Lords, not to believe in Atita. They've all been approved, but you don't have to. None of those operations will bring any new means that will lead you to your salvation.
Everything is in the holy scriptures.
Everything is there. We don't need anything else including no new doctrine either coming from the sin of sinodality. Anything that's new? No.
Everything is in the gospels in the teachings of Jesus Christ. The Virgin Mary in Fatima, Lassal, Ber, Bhas, San Nicholas, Petia, Akita, and all these cooperation sites. Gabandal, Father Michelle has come only to say one message. And it's a message that has been said a long time ago in an obscure, unknown little village in the middle of nowhere in Israel 2,000 years ago, a little village called Cana. The message of the Virgin M today is the same as then. Do everything my son tells you to.
Uh, Maximus, he was asking us and then I'm so sorry. I'm monopolizing the floor. I'll I'll be quiet. I'm longwinded. I'm so sorry. Manique, you [clears throat] answer the next question. I I'll answer Maximos afterwards.
We can't hear you.
Um a lot of people are asking about refugees. Will there be one in India?
Will there be be one in other places?
There will be all around the world in the craziest police places. Father Miche said even in flood planes in the middle of you know places in the middle of fires there were there could be you know refues. So they will be wherever God wants one to be. And he saw a map of them and the world was covered in refues. They don't look like anything today, but the an angels are going to build on them. Uh little places can end up hosting 4,000 people, he said at one point, thousands of people. But that's only because the angels build quick. So, but there are certain things like for his refuge. Someone will say, "Well, then why can't the angels build his refuge?" Well, there are certain things that the father asked him, God the Father asked him to do. And so, he has to do that first. So hence that's why he's not available to all of us. He has to obey God the father. So there we go.
>> All right. Uh Vicki said >> ah >> please read what Michael uh Michael S about Mary's divine mercy's writing. It is contrary to Pope Francis and current church teachings. I submit to you that there are some teachings today that come from father that pope Francis and from the current uh yachi of the church that is contrary to what pope John Paul II said >> or Leo the 13th [clears throat] or Benedict the 15th or Benedict the 16th and I ask you the following questions. Which pope was right? Which pope was wrong?
Maria divine mercy was condemned by the church.
>> Yes.
So that uh is my answer today that's the problem and that is why the church today is going through a civil war while Pope Francis today is stating for instance the latest all religions lead to God.
That's a violation of the first commandment. I pray for Pope Francis. I recognize him as the pope of a Catholic church. I'm subject to magisterium. This is a brotherly and loving um remark on my part for his own good. No, but forgive me to say that all the religions lead to God. It's a contradiction to what other popes have said. There is for instance Benedict the 15 said there is no salvation other than through the Roman Catholic Church. Which pope was right, Vicki?
Which pope was wrong?
We have to pray not for discernment because we it does not correspond to us when we cannot call ourselves or want try to be father laurent want to be like so many podcast leaders here or there we can only try to be obedient calmly with a cold head of the teachings of Christ dogma kateism everything is there >> oh yes but I think that Vicki was trying to say be careful because there someone in the feed that is pushing a condemned apparition or condemned messages. That's >> I misunderstood.
>> Vicki, I you're a very sweet lady. I am immensely sorry if I misunderstood. But what I said nevertheless, we have to be careful. We have to pray for the pope. I would have wished that like Manik said that more people listen to Bishop uh >> Strickland. He explained himself beautifully yesterday. So despite of this crisis that the church is going through and it is a severe one now um we must simply pray for Pope Francis so that God illuminates him errors of his ways on some things. Go ahead. It's not just that. It's that only what he says ex cathe exa cathedra.
I never know how to say this. Excathedra is what we need to obey. What he says to the media, what he says, you know, there some there are some documents he writes that are not ex cathedra. So it and and I myself don't know which is which. It's very confusing. But a lot of a lot of most of what he says is actually not exedra. So, [sighs] unless it's an encyclical, [gasps] I think it's an encyclical or a bull. I mean, you have to you have to look it up on the internet. I'm sorry. I I I I can't look it up. I have too much to do.
But that's that's basically the rule. If a pre if a pope says something ex Cathedral, then >> then you have to follow that. But we are looking now. Oh my goodness. Okay. But we are looking at a time now where this may change because they are wanting to make uh as part of the magisterium the senates which are consultations with non-atholics even and non non prelets the the ley are now being consulted in these senates which this was never meant to be. was supposed to be only prelets because prelets are educated about the history of the church. They understand the why and why things are done the way they are if they even still are. So how much less do the ley know or certainly non-atholics and yet this is what this is what we have these are the people participating in these senates and now there's talk that yes this is going to be part of the magisterium so let's be careful though um father Michelle explained to us that there is the magister actually I'm wrong father Michelle said it would be part of the magisterium of Pope Francis and not the magisterium of the church the Catholic church and therefore because he didn't he didn't write an apostolic letter is no what is the document say after a cinnid he writes an official document and that official document >> a papal exhortation >> okay so that's the one that needs to be done but he didn't do it this time >> which means that even though it's he says it's part of the magisterium. It's part of his magisterium, not the magisterium of the Catholic Church. And therefore, it does not need to be obeyed, per se. So, yes, thank goodness.
I'm very confusing. I'm sorry.
>> No, you're thinking out loud. [laughter] >> You're you're doing wonderfully well.
I'll I'll um you remember at the beginning everyone I mentioned that uh I offered uh cordial debate to anyone and it detracted father Michelle no there was only one person in the world that answered me there was a Frenchman and uh we were talking about for instance the matter involving the patchamama no and he was saying oh but it was a pastoral thing no a lot of people he said were condemning pope accusing him to be an accomplice to idolatry. No, but it was people did not understand it was a pastoral thing. My response to him was really he was a Frenchman, a countryman of mine. I said, "Well, in that case, what what stops you from bringing a patchimama to the altar of La Cathedral Notredam or to the Basilica of Sakar in Paris. Go ahead. You will see what how they receive you. They will give you two choices. The door or the window." So he he told me um um um the patcha mama. If you look in Wikipedia is a goddess.
>> Demonic goddess.
>> Yes, it's a any goddess.
>> Well, yes, it's a false goddess is demonic. But look into Wikipedia, you'll see it's a goddess. And you will see that if you look at the archives, the the document documentaries when the dead those pagans because let's not kid ourselves. The people who went there these Indians were pagans. They adored and prayed on holy ground on the gardens of the Vatican on their knees in front of the statue of the patcham mama begging and the prayer was oh patcham mama make our lands fertile allow our good fruits to grow to be able to feed our children and our babies and pope was there Francis watching from afar with a benevolent fatherly paternal smile a lot of people in my country because we were talking about that with this gentleman I was debating with. But a lot of people have accused the pope and all his um cardinals who were there to have made him himself an accomplice to idolatry by permitting this to happen on holy ground. you know what happened happened but um as I said there are a lot of things and I pray for Pope Francis with all my heart I don't think he is an anti- pope I do not I do not think he is an anti an an antichrist I I know he's not father Michelle confirmed that much but I do not agree with his politics and what he said on many many instances is contradictory to the teachings of other pontiffs before him beginning with John Paul II. John Paul II would never ever have permitted the patchimama incident to take place in the Vatican. He would never have said that all the religions lead to God which is a violation of the first commandment the very first one. Thou shalt not have other gods before me. The only way and Christ was clear on the gospel. He says, "If the only way to go to the kingdom of my father is if you eat my flesh and you drink my blood." That's the way, the truth, and the life. There is no other way. Now, it's true that the very first human being to have ever entered heaven, even before St. Joseph and the Virgin Mary, was a non-Christian and the worst of them all, the man who was crucified at Christ's right. But as the last moment of his life, he converted by saying to Christ, Jesus, remember me when you enter into your kingdom. No, there is only one way of salvation and that's Jesus Christ. There is none other.
>> There is no need for any other.
>> Well, in fact, when I was talking with um father Oh, no. the the the Brazilian mystic priest uh Father >> Olivera >> Olivera his I was talking with his spokesperson his spokesperson's translator who is Brazilian and he was he gave me the whole history about this whole Pachchamama thing and how the Amazonians were actually deeply hurt that a goddess a demonic one it's not even a good one it's a bad one I mean a good one in the sense that, you know, there are some like like white magic and black magic. Of course, they're all bad bad and demonic, but they believe that there's good magic and bad, you know.
Anyway, but this was not a good good goddess even. It was it was really evil and they were really betrayed that this was that that this uh idol and this goddess was used, you know, when when they've suffered so much for their faith, they've abandoned that. I mean they were they were sacrificed for their faith and now they are they are part of this faith and then we bring this back.
So they were deeply deeply hurt by this move by the Vatican to to promote Patchamama and put it on stamps and all this. I was also told uh that Dr. Robert Muahan was there at the mass. Do you remember when um when they put a patchamama offering on the altar and then someone removed it and then it was put back on the altar and then father uh Pope Benedict came and said the mass Dr. Robert >> Moan of St. Peter in the Vatican.
>> Yes. Well, Dr. Robert Moahan was just a few steps away from the altar and he saw it all happen and he knows Pope Francis well and he's he's a traditionalist. I'm going to tell you he's not he's not okay. But yet even he says Pope Francis doesn't know half of the things that are going on around him. He comes in, they basically set everything up and he comes in and just says the mass. So it's not we can't assume that you know he he knows and understands all these cultures and what these things are to him. He thought that it was their version of our lady and it's not as as well thought as we think it is. He's not do you know what I mean?
He he there's a bit of ignorance there.
Um unfortunately he took a little he took it a little further than he should have. But um he's trying to be in his efforts to be pastoral. Unfortunately it can do a lot of harm. But um there's another thing too. I was listening to father Meliki Martin today and he was saying this what we see with the papacy now and the cardinals it has to do with this movement that happened with the shan a priest who was saying that there is no heaven there is no hell there's just us there's just the present and so we we just have to be nice and good and then there's nothing after death they don't there are so many priests and bishops who do not believe in the afterlife in the four last things they do not believe in the true presence of our lord but they're there and that has to do with the teachings that came with the shakna li and liberation theology and all this where this there's this movement in the church to to liberate ourselves from the past doctrines from the the magisterium of from the the the deposit of the faith to allow the Holy Spirit to come with novelties to allow ourselves to be flexible to the winds of the Holy Spirit. This is the new thing and this is what they're teaching in seminaries.
This has been like for for decades now already the and we see the result at the Vatican. He warned what was going to happen with this and now we see the result. I I would like to invite I know that there's I I've [laughter] a we have a friend who is who was the best friend of Father Maliki Martin. I'm gonna try to have him on his on this channel. And by the way, he just wrote an incredible novel. He a novel, a Christmas novel.
We're going to try to do something special for that as well. So that's another thing I'm hoping to work on when we're all done all this. But um I want to have him on the channel to talk about all this. You know, when we talk about conspiracy in Rome and whatnot, well, it's only conspiracy until it happens for real. And he was the best friend of Father Malaki Martin. He saw [clears throat] this happen. He knows he saw what happened behind the scenes.
It's fascinating to listen to him and I know he's working on a special book right now. Um, it's going to be earthshattering when it comes out, but um, we'll we'll see if we can get him on our channel.
It'll he it'll explain a lot.
Um, we have 10 minutes before we reach the 2our mark. I just wanted to tell everyone here that Catholicism and I for one I have to tell you this.
Um, I'm very disturbed to see sometimes the fanatism, the lack of moderation in the progressist movement.
>> They are very violent. They are very aggressive and they sometimes their personal pride gets involved and pride particularly misplaced is a very bad adviser.
We have a church that took that is very old took 20 centuries to arrive to where we are today. A dogma that has been built polished flawless and infallible.
No man, no cardinal, no pope can change the dogma of the faith of the ten commandments.
If they do, if anyone tries, they def facto excommunicate themselves. That's according law.
the this lack this fanatism uh of modernism trying to make the church adapt to the fashions of today to be more inclusive.
It's the other way around. It should not be up to ch to the church or to God to change his teachings for the convenience of a new fashion of man. It is up to man to change his evil ways to the fashions and the teachings of God.
>> Well, the the oath of against modernism, Pope Pis the 10th actually had an oath that he had everyone all the priests I think all the priests had to swear that oath, right? What was it? So, and then it was discarded >> with all this with this changing way of thinking in the church, which is unfortunate because it's not Catholic.
>> And one must must wonder since we this channel is dedicated to the blessed virgin Mary. This is a channel of father Michelle. Uh it's a spokesman of the father Michelle. But having worked with father loot for eight years of my life and we did discuss this conversation with father ly many many times at the time when I was with him in n from 1995 until 2003 his office in a outside Paris ladies and gentlemen you should have seen it. It was remarkable. Uh it was like um shelves from the roof all the way to the floor uh on the entire office. It was remark and every dosier inside and it was night was representing an alleged apparatan site somewhere around the world.
>> Incredible.
>> And he told me you know the immense majority of these are just men and women who want so much so much to see God and speak with them they convince themselves. But and I asked him well father how many of these thousands of dos you have here are authentic in your opinion? He told me, "Well, you have to consider that from Lassal to today, we have about 300 or so true operation sites." And I told him, "But why so many? Why so many?" M. And he said, "That's the question that all the theologians right now in the church are wondering. Why now? Why since the end of the 19th century all the way to the end of the 20th and we are about to enter the 21st century why is heaven sending again and again and again the blessed virgin Mary to ask everyone to convert to pray to leave their faith and then father Lauran said shouldn't that be the job of priests to do shouldn't the priest of the Catholic church tell exactly the same message that the virgin is sent to to echo and then he said that's very likely like in Lass the Virgin said and pointing fingers at the church the church is failing its mission >> we must pray and in every operation through operation site the virgin asked to pray for the pope >> in this case for pope Francis >> for all the >> for all the candles and all the bishops even those who are fall or are falling or fell into the trap of error we must pray for all of them and try as much as we can to fight this evil, remain united and avoid contradictions fighting amongst ourselves. That does not serve the purpose of God. It serves the purpose of somebody who is very hot right now.
>> Well, in the the I always cite, you know, the dialogues of St. Catherine, but our Lord said that if you want if if the if you're not happy with if you if you notice that the prelets are not being faithful, that's that's a reflection of your lack of prayer. And therefore, we are the responsible ones.
We we are responsible for this.
And that's why he's so offended when we speak against them. It's because it's our fault. because they they even ask for our prayers when they become popes, you know, and but uh well, we see the result how few people are actually praying for him. There were so few of us now and with all the closing of the monasteries, the nuns, you know, the contemplatives who spent their lives praying for the pope and the church, and now they're gone and they're being closed. These amazing monasteries are being shut down. It's it's really sad.
So we really need to pray for the church and and mean it. Pray from the heart because it's not a judgment that is needed. It's prayer.
>> Hi
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