Colorism is a form of discrimination based on skin tone within racial groups, particularly affecting Black communities, where lighter-skinned individuals often receive preferential treatment in dating, employment, housing, and social spaces like clubs, while darker-skinned individuals face stereotypes, exclusion, and must work harder to achieve the same recognition, creating systemic inequality that operates alongside but distinct from racism.
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Is "Pretty For A Dark Skin" A Compliment Or An Insult? (Heated Debate)Added:
Where does colorism hit hardest?
>> Oh, dating. Dating, music, uh, marketing or everyday life?
>> Music.
>> Wait, repeat the question, please.
>> Where does colorism hit the hardest?
Dating, music, marketing, or everyday life?
>> Marketing.
>> Everyday life.
>> Everyday life. Marketing.
>> Everyday life.
>> All right. So, explain and then we go down there.
>> Let's start from there.
>> We going to start from that.
>> Okay. So I would say colorism plays in everyday life because you know we we speaking what searching for a job >> it it comes in >> you think colorism play a PART IN THAT OR >> got a resume like well I guess when you go to the interview like yo I don't know if I don't know if people be like yeah she light-skinned I'mma hire I mean maybe >> yes club culture is all lightkinn colorism place finding a Yes.
>> Colorism plays in buying a house.
Colorism plays cuz you know a lot of people don't want you in their neighborhood if you look a certain way.
>> Yeah.
>> Is that colorism or is that just racism?
Like >> that's colorism is racism.
>> Yeah.
>> Oh.
>> Cuz if you like So it's just like and then when dating it's like you get to choose. Yeah.
>> Honestly with dating. So I don't even I wouldn't put dating in into that. But definitely everyday life I would say because even if like your Uber driver look a certain way, you ain't trying to get in the car with him.
>> You know what I'm saying?
>> Damn.
UBER DRIVER TO GO. I don't know.
>> No. See, >> so if you pull up and you see a DS Uber driver, you not getting >> you get Some people get scared.
>> That's crazy.
>> Listen, you see a purple [ __ ] driving a Uber, you getting an Uber with him?
>> I'm getting an Uber. I'm getting Uber. I just spent my $40 and I ain't getting it back.
>> As long as I like some play match, I'm getting in the Uber. What you >> Some people are very scared. And this is before even Uber was a thing, you know.
>> I mean before New York.
>> Yeah.
>> You wasn't getting me in no Uber with Africa.
>> Where you from?
>> Sorry. What happened?
>> Where you from? I thought you was from Brooklyn.
>> I'm from South Carolina.
>> OH, I WOULD HAVE been born in New York, but I got South. So I was very scared at first. So it's like when you know what I'm saying? New Yorkers not scared no Uber drivers. You know what I'm saying?
>> Of course y'all New Yorkers. Y'all ain't scared of nothing. Y >> you bleed out, I bleed. [ __ ] >> No, but I'm just saying in general because colorism does play a major part in just feeling safe. And I think that's what it really is when it comes down to is feeling safe.
>> I ain't going to lie to you. If I'm walking down the street and I see a a darkkinned person or a light-skinned person, that don't matter to me. But if he got a pushy on, that's what matters to me. You know what I'm saying? Like it don't matter if you dark skin or light on. Demon don't got no color.
>> You got it, my brother. I'm I'm going to go over here. You know what I'm saying?
>> This whole This whole block is yours.
Tom don't got no color.
>> You asking that question too, though.
>> Huh?
>> It really dumbs down to who you asking that question to.
>> That's a fact. You ask a white person that question, >> what kind of answer you getting?
>> That's a fact.
>> Cuz they be clutching their pearls.
>> They be clutching their pearls.
>> They be clutching their pearls. Cuz the part of Brooklyn that I live in, which is Crown Heights, they be clutching their pearls. Let a >> They be thinking they gangster over there. They walking normal.
>> Let the Yiann walk by. I ain't going to lie.
>> White people cool when I walk past them.
>> Of course.
>> Look how you carry yourself. Look how you looking. Look how you smelling.
>> But it's also like how you smell.
>> Exactly. how you carry yourself. If you carry yourself like a bum, I don't want to be around no bum. I don't care if you white, black, Asian, purple, green, orange, black. I don't give a [ __ ] what color you are. If you carry yourself nasty, I don't want to be around that cuz I don't want to smell that. The butter teeth.
>> Pretty brown. What's your thoughts on this?
>> I think colorism in my opinion is everyday life. But to be specific, I would say club culture cuz I feel like even to work in a club, they want you to be light-skinned, Spanish, BBL for real.
And if you if they do choose you if you're dark skin, you got to have a BBL >> and you got to do the mode.
>> Yes. You like they they screen us down as like as chocolate women. I feel like >> we got to come with more than just ourselves. You got like I said, you have to be enhanced. You have to have something done. You have to be >> like polished.
>> It's depressing for lightkinned girls.
>> Trust me, it's depressing for lightkinned girls cuz they're ready.
>> No, I don't think so. Cuz I seen I think I seen >> Shut the whole [ __ ] down like that.
>> No, absolutely not. No. Cuz that's why I drew like I just want >> Hold on. LET HER LET HER THAT'S WHY THAT'S WHY I DRAW the line.
THAT'S WHY I DRAW THE LINE.
>> WAIT, WAIT, WAIT. That's why her argument first. Hit her argument first.
Let me tell y'all something about light-kinned girls cuz we always get this perception that you light-kinned, you cute. So, it's like we got to >> not always. Some of y'all look a mess.
>> Very, very much so. And that's what I'm trying to say.
>> A lot of people. That's the point that I'm trying to prove that >> No, she's right.
>> But darkkinned girls be eating and then it's like, okay, you a light girl, but you know what they tell us? You're pretty for dark skin. I've heard.
>> Why you got to put the extra? We pretty dark skin. I'm pretty period. [ __ ] you.
>> But let me tell you, every light-skinned girl has to put on this hat like, "Okay, I can't go outside without uh uh uh because I'm light-kinned." You get what I'm saying?
>> What's uh >> Yeah. But we can't we can't speak based on her point of view.
>> The perception of the point of view of us and we can only speak on our point of view.
>> We we we we got our own light skin. You know what I mean?
>> Yes girl.
>> Yes girl.
>> No way. But I'm so serious like I I really can't speak for nobody else but I I did the night life and I seen it firsthand. Yes. For light-skinned girls, they are more accepted in that life because they exactly what I said. They want us light-skinned girls to be put on this pedestal that we are the top tier, that we are the cutest.
>> They prepare to >> Yeah. They put it out that >> they perpetuate like softness, bubbly.
>> Yes.
>> Yes. Closer.
>> Anything dark associated with >> anything closer to negative like >> is more soft accepted.
>> All right. So, so what's back to the colorism thing?
>> What's your what's your rebuttal now >> with um club culture?
>> Yeah. Personally, I have experienced being neglected by >> men and sections and clubs as a as a brownkinned, dark-kinned woman.
>> Um, >> as a like employee or like >> as a what >> like you was working there or or you like you >> just in regular like being in a club scene.
>> Um, it's a lot of men that's like >> just like how they be like in a in Miami, oh, you can't be a plus-sized woman to be in my section. It's a lot of that [ __ ] going on.
>> The sections is pretty I ain't going to hold you in a straight program.
>> The sections are pretty small. Like you know, you might be taking up you might be taking up a lot of section. I say who I want to see over here.
>> And that's fine. That's true. That's fine. But that's the same with like bookings and castings and sections and [ __ ] >> Be specific on who you want. Exactly.
When I come, >> I want her her.
>> No, they be they be specific.
>> No, no. Some of them Some of them when you pop up in the spot, they be having an attitude towards you. I ain't even going to lie. When I lived in When I lived in Atlanta, a lot of men, they was like, "Oh, she's brownkinned. She's dark skin." I'm not really jacking that. It's It's mad sections what I been It's mad sections where I've been in and it's like mad lighting females, slim thick, >> and that's it. light-skinned.
>> That's crazy.
>> But they be loud with it sometimes.
>> So, is is preference ever okay? Because let's say y'all had a section, right?
I'm pretty sure y'all wouldn't want y'all want y'all want all the tall kings in there. The short kings. I bet you y that's between me and a lot of [ __ ] >> But I'm saying in general in general.
>> I'm I'm a vibe type of female.
>> Uhhuh.
>> Yes. Everything is spiritual. vibe on the walk through like Jerome >> from Martin.
>> You're [ __ ] annoying.
>> You're [ __ ] annoying.
>> But that's the thing I get in this section.
>> Random people in my section. If I'm have if this is my birthday, I have random people in my section. It's like I want to know like >> you vibe.
>> I'm a I'm a vibe.
>> Jerome is a vibe. He is a >> Jerome V. All right. Jerome Cool. Stand up in that corner.
But you DON'T THINK THE BIG YOU DON'T THINK SOME OF THESE big plus-sized women or just women in general, they could look a mess. Just because you dark skin or light skin or big like you mess and I do big money, long money.
>> I do want to ask y this too cuz I I do I do agree with the colorisms in the club culture and stuff like that. But would you say because sometimes what I hear from men is that sometimes the the brownkinned darker skinned women can come off much more unpleasant. They have that friendly demeanor. They they look like they don't want to be bothered. SO IT'S LIKE BUT THAT'S NOT TRUE. I UNDERSTAND. BUT I understand that >> that's not true. As a darkkinned brownkinned woman, okay, a lot of people tell me that I have a [ __ ] face.
>> And when you me I promise you I have the biggest smile on my face.
>> She's an Aries. I feel like we live in our stereotype though because I feel like I have to come off aggressive because I I'm not going to lie because I am dark skin. I feel like that's how you you read me already. So I come off that way.
>> You trying to So you playing into the stereotype?
>> I'm not playing >> AND THEN WONDER WHY THEY THEY THEY >> NO, NO. I PLAY into it. I ain't going to lie, but it's it's not on purpose. I feel like it's just I know. It's not that I know I'm dark skin. It's like I know that's what you expected. So I'mma BE I'MMA BE >> YOU PLAYING INTO IT?
>> NO. I AIN'T GOING TO LIE with her with us when we go to the club.
>> Yeah.
>> We hold ourselves to a certain standard.
>> Okay.
>> So when if a light-skinned woman hold herself to a certain standard, she's a bad [ __ ] >> Mhm.
>> If I hold myself to a certain standard, I'm a [ __ ] >> You're just a [ __ ] Nobody Nobody's going to want to talk to me. Nobody's going to want to interact with me. Only the promoter or the person that invited me out.
>> I mean, that's the problem, though.
Like, y'all don't understand that. I mean, maybe some dudes, but I'm looking at both of y'all like y'all acting like [ __ ] You get what I'm saying?
>> Oh my god. WAIT, WAIT, WAIT. SO, I have a question. When I came up in this [ __ ] did I give [ __ ] >> No, no, no. But there's women light skin, dark skin.
>> But hold on, hold on. Is this the same demeanor that you go in the club with?
>> When I go, I'm like this.
>> There you go. There's a lot of women that go to the club like, I want no man touch talking to me. I don't want no man touching me.
>> I want EVERYBODY TALKING TO ME.
>> YEAH. LIKE, >> I want everybody talking to me.
>> She said, I want everybody talking to So she went >> I WENT BACK.
>> Y'ALL ARE PORTRAYING THE STEREOTYPES ON THIS COUCH. LIKE I AIN'T GOING TO LIE TO YOU, BRO. LIKE >> IN A different frame though. Like >> New York approach one time.
>> [ __ ] face on this. This a whole different mind mindset like >> and some people have social anxiety. I have social.
>> Me too. Exactly. That's why take your ass in the house. I'M TRYING TO >> NO.
THE HOOKAH AND THE DON HULIE or going so get rid of that.
>> YOU GOING TO DO THE TRICK every time.
>> NOW YOU IN A NOW YOU IN a public setting talking about got social anxiety.
>> A lot of people have social.
>> Now you trying to get in a section talking about you got social anxiety though.
>> Now you ain't talking. Now you not being a vibe in the >> WHEN THEY SAY THAT WHOLE anxiety out the window.
>> Oh no.
>> Oh you slam next. You ain't never getting >> know the [ __ ] >> She said you wouldn't know though. I GOT YOU WOULD KNOW.
>> YOU WOULD NOT KNOW.
>> Men love bad [ __ ] >> [ __ ] that don't talk to nobody. They just walk in bad [ __ ]
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