Who Is More To Blame For Tigers Start To Season, Harris Or Hinch? | The Valenti Show with Rico

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[00:00:00]Oh boy. So, we'll continue with the Miles Garrett stuff. He's a Ram. Also, uh Adam Shfter was just on Philadelphia radio. He expects AJ Brown to be dealt today to the Patriots.

[00:00:13]>> So, it looks like the love boat did pay off for Diana. She did get that story.

[00:00:18]But >> I would like to confirm something for you. I made a smartass remark. And can we say that? Haha. You know, Bobby Whit Jr.'s war is probably better than the entire Tigers confirmed. Uh Bobby Wit Junior's war is 3.4. The Tigers as an entire offensive team 1.5.

[00:00:42]>> How is that possible?

[00:00:44]>> Could you because I added the >> Show the math, please.

[00:00:48]>> No, I'm going to say like are they they have that many negative war players?

[00:00:53]>> Um that is correct.

[00:00:55]It just >> and they just listen. McGonagal's got a three. Think about how ass you got to be. McGonagal's a three war. Riley's a 1.2. That gets you to 4.2 as is.

[00:01:10]>> They're dragging him down >> here. I mean, I >> No, no, no. It's just one. It It's hard to believe.

[00:01:16]>> I know. That's why it's a crazy stat for you. I What do you want me to say?

[00:01:20]>> I talked about it, but >> here. Hold on. That's why you were chuckling in the break. I was just like cuz I kind of take a sick pleasure at this point. It's so bad. All right, here. Dingler's a six. Glabber is a one two. McGonagal's a 3-2. And Riley is a 1.2. Okay, here's how you end up lower than Bobby Wit Jr. Torque.5.

[00:01:43]Colt Keith.1, Verling.

[00:01:48]Went Seal.9.

[00:01:50]Jamai Jones.7.

[00:01:53]Allstar Zack McKinstry minus one Karp negative.2 Hayou Lee negative.7 Jake Rogers.2 Zack Short zero. You are literally zero.

[00:02:10]>> You broke even. Okay, >> dude. I did the math.

[00:02:13]>> No, it just sounds weird that he an entire team is he's got a better war than the entire >> Just wanted to confirm that.

[00:02:21]>> I appreciate Um, so while it is smartasserie, it was also accurate.

[00:02:26]We are going to get to the Tigers, but a lot of people want to rap about Miles Garrett being traded to the Rams. And it's okay if you're upset. And and the one thing we're not going to do, I'm not going to do straw man stuff. Like, this isn't like, oh, our off seasonason's a failure cuz we didn't get Garrett. It's the principle that Miles Garrett or players like him will never be Detroit Lions because this is a cowardly city.

[00:02:52]Our GMs are not in it to win it. Or if they are, they're in it to win it in a very specific, rigid, non-compromising way.

[00:03:02]the the GMs that continue to get their teams to Super Bowl contention and and to the Super Bowl in the NFC. John Lynch, Howie Roseman, John Schneider, and Lesne. All of them do it the same way. Bold swings, aggression, trades, and willing to let go of players that fans are like, "No, no, but I love this guy. Yeah, we need to move him if you want to win again." So, the Rams are able to get Garrett for Jared Verse, a first, a second two years from now, and a third three years from now.

[00:03:36]I can't even do a conversation of could the Lions have been in this because that can't happen with without Brad picking up the phone. He was never doing this.

[00:03:45]I mean, think about the arrogance for Brad Holmes to walk to the podium. Oh, I guess I paid attention to your mock draft. Oh, you showed us drafting Derek Moore.

[00:03:57]Jokes's on you, man. You haven't won a playoff game in two years. So, the Rams are already the Super Bowl favorites.

[00:04:03]And clearly adding Miles Garrett across from Byron Young is that's 33 sacks.

[00:04:09]>> Yeah, they just reinforced it now, >> right? So, it's the principle, not the individual player. Uh the the other note, and we'll mix this in. I mean, from a Tiger standpoint, let's just mix them into the conversation. I have nothing to say baseball-wise.

[00:04:26]They're vomit.

[00:04:28]But this is now a question because you you get a lot of people pissed and they start to want to fire people. This is what we do as fans. Firing people's like an ice cream sundae. It doesn't really help you, but sure is tasty in the moment. The idea of it is this. Who do you blame more for this absolute clown car that we are watching now 16 or what 15 16 games under 500? Is it Scott Harris for the roster construction or is it AJ Hinch for doing insane zany analytics things that the numbers don't even back up? Shout out Kater Montero out on 65 pitches. And again, you can't fire both. And I don't think either guy's getting fired. But what what do we do as fans when our teams are asked? We talk about firing people. You can fire one or none.

[00:05:23]>> But if you call up and want somebody gone, I want to know why.

[00:05:27]>> Now, do you want to do you want to ruminate on that for a bit?

[00:05:30]>> Yeah. Think about that. Yeah.

[00:05:31]>> Why don't you think? Because I don't want you to say it lightly.

[00:05:36]I struggle with this because I'm highly biased with both of these people. I I am too, Mike. But I I think I'm leaning, if I had to blame one, I'm still leaning more towards Scott Harris. AJ can only do so much with what he has. If you open up the refrigerator or you open up the cupboards and all you got are three carrots, an egg, and a can of potted meat, there's only so much you can do.

[00:06:06]>> There's only so much. So, I can't blame him because it's not like he's out there mismanaging the Dodgers.

[00:06:15]>> Yeah.

[00:06:15]>> Okay.

[00:06:17]This is the Tigers. We just broke down the fact that one person on the Royals has a better war than the entire team.

[00:06:25]>> Yeah.

[00:06:26]>> So, I cannot blame. Now, was yesterday a bad look for him? Absolutely. Because I think he's starting to get desperate.

[00:06:34]He's starting to gamble. He's starting to, you know, how we always tell players, you know, don't get out of your game. There's no such thing as a, you know, a 34-point play in football. You you got there's you can't you can't go up to the plate and knock a 10-run homer in. I think AJ's gotten to the point now where he's trying to fix it all in one game, in one move. Instead of just winning that game, he's trying to end this streak and get this team all the way back. Well, how about you just win this game? keep your picture out there.

[00:07:05]>> But there's a reason this is a good question is both guys you can make a case for. I don't have a strong opinion.

[00:07:12]And look, when I say I'm biased, let me be very clear, okay? And none of this is personal. I don't I don't care. Like, in the same way, it's not personal if you don't like my presentation of how I do radio. That's not personal. I don't like Scott Harris's presentation of him, the smarmyiness, the comments. Even at the end of last year, how did a top five offense become bottom five? I can't sleep. Well, because they weren't top five. Oh, oh, all the players will be the same, but the team will be different. Like, I I don't that's not for me. That's smartest guy in the room stuff. That's not personal. Those are public comments. I do not have to like them. Just like I do a public radio show. People don't have to like it.

[00:07:52]That's not personal.

[00:07:55]With with AJ, and I've separated this. I will never love everything about him based on he cheated.

[00:08:04]>> He cheated my team out of a World Series. Period.

[00:08:06]>> Fair.

[00:08:07]>> I don't have to let that go. No.

[00:08:09]>> But in the same sense, have I always said, is he a good manager? He is. If you got rid of him, would he be hired? I I believe so. In 10 minutes, but I have to admit my biases to both these guys.

[00:08:22]If you're forcing me to pick Eileen Harris because his refusal, first of all, he sucks at free agency. Can we just be real about this? Comb his free agent signings in his entire time here.

[00:08:36]Comb it. It's a disaster. Now, let's go to trades.

[00:08:42]Outside of that Loronzo trade, how many of his trades are actually any good? How about last year's trade deadline?

[00:08:48]Horrific. How about the one two years ago? Horrific. He traded for two pitchers who didn't make the roster for >> Oh, and then had the audacity to basically what was it on the Benetti Good Times pod or whatever it was? Well, they weren't meant to be here for the playoffs. They were just supposed to to what?

[00:09:04]Be here for four weeks and get blown out.

[00:09:07]>> Charlie Mortyn Yeah. Hey, I traded for a dead guy. What's his name? Paul Seawald.

[00:09:13]So look, I lean Harris because again it it is this belief but for for for the sake of the conversation here's the problem with AJ. How much data is enough to change your perspective?

[00:09:26]Is it 30 games, 50 games, 80 games, 100 game? What is the data point that gets you out of your binder and into the real world? Because we've talked about this.

[00:09:37]There are splits over 162 games, over 100 games, 50 games, 80 games. They're not good. It's morbid.

[00:09:47]Absolutely morbid.

[00:09:49]>> So then you you you start to ask the question, how long are you going to pretend it's Jamai Jones from 90 games ago? How long are you going to pretend that Zack McKinstry or Zack Short or like Rico, he's still doing things?

[00:10:04]>> Like nothing that's happened in these 60 games or over the last 30 games of 40 games of last year is real.

[00:10:10]>> No, it's a good point because >> I'm only just doing this just so people understand both sides have blame.

[00:10:15]>> No, it's a good point because it he's almost under the belief, well, it's baseball. These guys will, you know, they'll figure it out.

[00:10:23]>> That's not how analytics works, though.

[00:10:25]>> Find it level. So remember, the computer decides it, not your feelings.

[00:10:29]>> So he would be violating his own principles there.

[00:10:32]>> Jamai Jones can't hit lefties this year.

[00:10:35]We're 60 games in. Why am I taking out Cole Keith? Why am I Look, Cole Keith is arguably bleeder, best guy with runners in scoring position. You can't keep taking Cole Keith out and then develop him. Karp came back yesterday. Why am I looking at Jama Jones?

[00:10:53]Why you got to do it to me? Uh, khakis.

[00:10:57]I don't know.

[00:11:03]We'll get to the people, but if you want to call about Miles Garrett to the Rams, we're here for it. And you can fire one or none. Tigers edition. You pick. Need a reason. And we know they're not getting fired. But this is what we do when your team blows and you're 16 under and you're not making the playoffs. What do you want me to do? I'm not doing fantasy factory scuba trades. He's not even pitching yet. Wake me up later.

[00:11:29]See, the alternative is uh what do you do when you just give up honesty? At what point does Upord start 248?