The Tyler Catastrophe Drama And The Death Of Real Accountability

Added: 2026-05-07

[00:00:02]I have had a crush on Will Gold since 2019 when I respectful of women.

[00:00:05]>> I do not think that Wilbur said as an abuser.

[00:00:07]>> I've had a lot of names. I've gone by Will, Wilbur, William.

[00:00:12]>> Tyler Catastrophe, Tyler Salona, Ta Soul. I've got a lot of names, honestly.

[00:00:16]I just do things.

[00:00:21]>> Tyler Catastrophe truly has become one of the most ridiculed figures on the internet. But why? Why have entire pages been set up scouring his every word?

[00:00:30]That is because in so many ways we are Tyler Catastrophe. We the people on the internet who constantly develop parasocial relationships with celebrities, influencers, any creator that we find amicable to us. We the people online who have continuously fed into a system that promotes platitudes over actual action, keeping us trapped in the cycle where we're constantly asking those who oppress us for any type of validation, for any type of crumbs.

[00:00:55]And when we get those crumbs and they're quickly snatched away, we go back to silence because the issue that we were advocating for isn't trendy anymore. We, the people online who have been really conditioned into this idea that if anyone steps out of line, that gives you the right to basically stalk them, search their life for any mistake they've made, even though we've often made similar mistakes. And this is not at all an excuse of Tyler catastrophe.

[00:01:17]But today, what I hope to do is have a more comprehensive and at least more detailed analysis of Tyler Catastrophe.

[00:01:24]And I think the systems that have really led him to feel like acting this way is acceptable when it's not. So, we're just going to start from the beginning, which is, you know, the big reason why we're all here, why we know his name today.

[00:01:35]The insanely creepy and parasocial crush that he had on Wilbur. I have had a crush on Will Gold since 2019 when I heard him laugh in the background of someone else's video, and it felt like life itself leaned in to listen, which is really inconvenient for me because I am very much a one soul at a time kind of person. So once I develop a crush, virtually no one else stands a chance ever. And at the time, I had just broken off a terrible engagement to a guy who didn't even like me. And since then, I have only briefly dated one other person who was wonderful, but it didn't work out. And so in all of that time, regardless of how many people have tried and been interested in me, I have not been able to find the interest for any single one of them because I have a crush on a guy I have interacted with once. One thing that I think so many people miss when it comes to Tyler Catastrophe in this case just overall is the fact that this type of behavior has unfortunately become normalized in so many circles on the internet. Whether it's a stand page that constantly tracks the move of a celebrity, whether it's these stand wars where people basically act like these celebrities are their family members and fight back and forth over them. This type of behavior has been consistently normalized. And as we continue to move into a society that favors work and productivity over any type of social interaction, I fear we may be moving into a world where this type of stuff becomes more commonplace.

[00:02:58]And I don't even officially know his sexuality. That's a whole other thing.

[00:03:02]And I have tried I have tried so hard to move on from this to let it go because I want so badly for it not to cross over into parasocial territory. But in like the 7 minutes that we spoke to each other, one, every time we made eye contact, I thought my heart was going to [ __ ] burst out of my chest and fly away. Two, I was so nervous that my head just shut off and my mouth had a mind of its own. And anyone who knows me and has ever met me knows that I don't get nervous about people. So no matter how many times I try to sweep this out of the rug and move on with my life, there's always that little thing in the back of my head saying there's a nonzero chance. Oh my god. So basically the way I see it, I finally say, "Fuck it." I make this video. I say it all out loud to the ether that is the internet. Worst case scenario, he sees it. He says, "Hey, not for me. I move on with my life. It's fine. I'm an adult. Who cares? I'll take a no over uncertainty any day of the week." Neutral option, nothing happens.

[00:04:04]Oh well, I guess. Best case scenario.

[00:04:09]And I think the reason that Tyler Catastrophe thought this was acceptable is because this is the kind of behavior that the internet has really begun to accept and kind of really cheer on.

[00:04:21]sharing your every single thought, leaving nothing into the recesses of your mind. Oversharing has kind of become an outdated word on an internet that consistently and repeatedly wants you to share more of yourself, wants you to share every single ounce of you, rewards you for sharing every single unckempt and random thought from your brain. So basically, you get it right.

[00:04:42]insanely parasocial, insanely creepy, weird, and just honestly very delusional video kind of hoping that your internet crush comes upon you. If you don't know who Wilbur is, I'm just going to quickly introduce him. Wilbur was basically Minecraft kind of creator or associated with the Minecraft era. Blew up around that time and like not to spoil too much of what's going to happen, but let's just say he has allegations against him of abuse. Doesn't really seem to be a great person. is further complicating the situation which was already creepy and parasocial into a point of not only are you creepy and parasocial, but you literally are inserting yourself in other people's lives and situations that you have no idea about what you're talking about and trying to discredit victims. I'm already mad. So, here is a clip kind of just of Wilbur's exartner shovel explaining some of what happened and kind of the pattern of abuse that was going on in their relationship. This is a person who is literally in a relationship, literally knew Wilbur Sood, not some random person on the internet who has a crush on Wilbur and just wants to, I guess, run defense for him. For some reason, him to really stop biting so hard. I didn't like it. And I tried telling him over and over again because he wasn't actually trying at all to not hurt me. Um, but he said he would try at first and then he started saying things like, "It was my pain tolerance that was too low."

[00:06:07]Or, "I'm exaggerating how much it actually hurts. He's not even biting that hard. I'm I'm being dramatic." Um, but his biting escalated to a point where I was covered in bruises all over my arms and they hurt and he would poke at them for fun.

[00:06:26]And he even felt so comfortable showing off my bruises that he had caused to our friends because he would bite me so hard by accident. By accident. He would even joke that it looked like he abused me.

[00:06:41]>> But yeah, basically Shovel bravely came out and said that yes, this was abuse. I don't even want to get into semantics or arguments about whether or not this qualifies as abuse, levels of abuse, etc. Because when you're hurting someone who's your partner or just someone in general, they're telling you to stop.

[00:06:57]They're telling you, "Hey, this is hurting me." And you're finding pleasure in that, there's something sick in that.

[00:07:02]And for some reason, like the internet seems to like to do, believe victims is absolutely destroyed when it's somebody that you like or a creator that you find enjoyment from or someone that, let's just say, you have a crush on, a weirdly parasocial, disgusting, odd crush on.

[00:07:19]But before we got more into kind of Tyler Catastrophe's defense of Wilbur Berslet, I wanted to kind of get more details on the case because I feel like this is something that a lot of people are glossing over, especially now that Tyler Catastrophe has released a kind of halfbaked apology. So, I wanted to look at this article that kind of goes over some of what's alleged. Twitch streamer and content creator Wilbur has released a statement after being accused of abuse following by a series of comments made by an ex-girlfriend during a Twitch stream on February 24th. shovel exartner of Wilbur went live on Twitch and spoke out about how her ex-boyfriend who she did not identify would bite her, leave bruises, sometimes even poking the bruises for fun. Basically, he comes up with this apology. In the past few weeks, a series of allegations have been made by over my conduct. Basically, he said, "I want to emphasize that although I feel it fair to offer my perspective, this person's feelings are valid. I have taken my time sharing the statement as I wanted to process and respond respectfully.

[00:08:16]During our relationship's final months, I regrettably became slobish, disrespectful, and selfish. There's a longer video clip, which I probably won't be able to fit in here, but I'll try to link it if I can. It does seem like it was something that was very like gaslighty, like where he would kind of gaslight her or make her feel or like she felt crazy for not understanding that this was abuse, which is so insidious and so sick. So, I don't know.

[00:08:39]Like I'm all for people taking going into therapy and learning how to correct their past actions, but I do feel like it gets to a point where it's like basically he's tries to say that the allegation shocked him and that he understood that the behavior was consensual when I don't know. I don't know, chief. When someone's literally saying, "Hey, this wasn't I it wasn't."

[00:09:00]I truly believe our personal messages reflect mutual affection. Out of respect for her, I choose not to publish them.

[00:09:07]aka I ain't got them chief allegedly.

[00:09:10]She basically responded by saying, "I could not have imagined what I'd wake up to today. My ex pretending he thought I enjoyed being hurt. All of his friends immediately coming to my defense. The support has brought me to tears. And for the record, I don't accept apology." And as I mentioned earlier while we were kind of getting in more into this discussion, you've got players running defense like our character today, Tyler Catastrophe, deciding to insert himself and basically try to I guess gaslight us out of liking Shovel and more messages kind of come out from his Tumblr that really are deranged in my opinion and I think just show that he was so lost in the sauce of fandom and parasocial crush that he really thought that defending Wilbur [ __ ] would help him.

[00:09:56]>> I do not think that Wilbur [ __ ] is an abuser. And I know I've said that fairly indirectly in the past, especially recently, but I do feel like now it needs to be said point blank. Cancer culture is [ __ ] And I'm not talking about holding people accountable for their awful actions because obviously we should be doing that. I'm talking about how many people are training their audiences to be internet attack dogs, which is not cool. And right now it's really hard to be on the internet. Feels like every other day we're getting someone who's secretly a terrible person. But I'm starting to realize that a lot of people don't know the difference between [ __ ] up and abusing people. And as someone who has been abused kind of a lot, I'm going to explain the difference. The first question is a little gray, but it has to do with intention. Did they knowingly hurt you on purpose? And if you know for a fact that they did it on purpose, then yeah, that person sucks. They're an abuser. But if you can't be sure they knew they were hurting you, you have to ask yourself another question. This one's a two-parter. One, did you tell them it hurt you? Cuz if you didn't, I'm sorry, you have to. You can't assume they know unless you tell them. As you're about to see, I think Tyler Catastrophe is really an example of the dangers of knowing therapy speak and quote unquote woke or progressive language when it comes to things like abuse while yet still promoting the same type of tactics and lies used to discredit victims over and over again.

[00:10:59]Oh, they were lying. Oh, if you don't tell the person they hurt you, then how would they know they hurt you? Well, maybe because there's bruises on that person's body. It's just telltale victim blaming but reshaped into a woke lens.

[00:11:12]And I think this is where the majority of the internet's rage is generated from Tyler Catastrophe, rightfully so. But I do think unfortunately in what comes next, you know, the deep dives, the video essays, what's truly lost is the fact that this is a person who's continued to this is a person who's continued to perpetuate these same stereotypes that are constantly used against victims to discredit them. And I think the allegations levied against well by shovel are really just forgotten in this mishmash of Tyler catastrophe hatred. I think there's something really insidious about using the fact that you are a victim of abuse to defend the abuse of other people. Like that's kind of insane. You know what that experience was like at least in some capacity. And you're so open to just listening to an alleged abuser just because you have a personal crush on them and you met them once for like 7 minutes. In that video, Shovel literally explicitly said that she was telling him that this was hurting her. So, you trying to say, "Well, you have to tell someone that you're being a like I'm pretty sure when someone sees you writhing in pain or actively saying something like, "Ouch," I think they can kind of read the room and understand that they're causing some sort of pain. But after you tell them, you have to ask, "How did they respond to you telling them? Did they get angry?

[00:12:25]Did they blame you? Did they hurt you more? Did they try to shut you up somehow?" Then, yeah, unfortunately, probably an abuser. or did they find out that they hurt you and apologize? Did they validate your feelings? Did they promise to change? Did they make genuine efforts to better themselves towards you and people around them? Cuz in that case, they're probably just someone who [ __ ] up. And I'm not giving you this information because I think that someone specific deserves to be absolved of all crimes or something. I'm giving you this information because as someone who has been abused more times than I'd like to tell you about. I still believe that everyone deserves a chance to be forgiven. And with all the time and energy we spend hoping people in our lives will change, you cannot hope for that without allowing them to change when they realize they've [ __ ] up. And if you want people to be better, you have to let them try to be. And unfortunately, the elephant in many of these discussions is that it's really easy to lie. And also, it's really easy for someone to vastly exaggerate when they're mad at someone. That's just humans at this point. So, if someone you don't know on the internet is telling you something about someone else you don't know on the internet, please just take a step back, take a deep breath, ask yourself some questions, cuz chances are you don't have all the information.

[00:13:14]And it's okay to wait to form an opinion until you do have more information. I know no one tells you this very often, but making a snap judgment immediately is dangerous for a lot of people. So, don't be an internet attack dog for people you don't know. painting this as an attack dog situation, a cancel culture, if you will, when it's like for so many decades and to this day, victims are not believed when they come out about something. They're instantly discredited. are instantly met with lawsuits, litigation, you know, it's like it's so hard to come out as a victim that I like, I'm sorry, but in any situation and I hear someone comes out about an allegation. Yes, of course.

[00:13:48]Right. There is a point where it gets the legal system where we're talking about evidence, but as an individual at first, I am going to side with the victim every time. I'm sorry. I don't think that's a radical weird take. And I think you kind of using a oh well people can lie. It's like these same talking points have been used for decades, but you're trying to shape it into a woke way against cancel culture. Like, what?

[00:14:10]Now, I did kind of want to go through some of the internet's responses, especially within the Minecraft YouTube community around the time that these allegations came out, cuz I do think kind of his excuse of Wilbur Sut's alleged abuse is kind of an extension of what's been going on in the internet during the time. So, basically, someone says they're trying to listen to Love Joy and that they can't really enjoy it because of the allegations. A lot of people are saying neutral-minded, personally a big believer in change and hope he was honest about therapy. My take, download his music onto your phone and use Spotify. We still listen to a lot of problematic artists. We still watch old Nickelodeon shows made by Dan Shiner. Don't give him money, but you can sure listen to some songs.

[00:14:52]Honestly, it gaff. Tons of artists have done worse than him and people still listen to them. It's allegations about years ago and I believe people changed.

[00:15:00]These are comments from like 7 months ago and the situation kind of happened quite a while ago. So, it's just kind of interesting to see, you know, how the internet's response has kind of shifted, if that makes sense. In addition to the whole Wilbur situation, which is insane on its own, more people began to look into Tyler catastrophe and they found some of the things that he sells for money. Um, apparently Tyler is a full-time artist/content creator, but let's just look at, you know, some of the stuff. All right, we're on top of Catastrophe 4. Oh, what what's this?

[00:15:32]A $1,300 beaded necklace. Um Oh, okay. Right, right, right. I mean, I Maybe the bundles are just expensive, right?

[00:15:47]Maybe the bundles are just expensive.

[00:15:49]Oh, what is that? A 5 in magnetic painting for $84.

[00:15:54]A floral beaded choker for 73. Oh, and and and beaded crystal necklaces for how much? $700?

[00:16:03]$800.

[00:16:04]So, yeah, a lot of people had issues with the pricing. Here's an indigenous bead worker tearing him up and just really explaining that this is bad bead work. I think it's important to mention that she's indigenous because, as we'll see later, you know, Tyler really apparently respects indigenous bead workers and is totally not trying to appropriate bead work at all. Proving Tyler Catastrophe overcharges and uses misleading terms. 880 is insane, by the way. Lumpy, uneven seed beads used for the majority of the collar. Pay attention to the large round beads.

[00:16:39]Here he says that the large crystal and round beads are made with onyx, red jade, and crystalo.

[00:16:45]He said in his videos that all his work is made with real gemstones, and that's why it's so expensive.

[00:16:51]This is the onyx bead. He uses a $4 a strand at Hobby Lobby. Spoiler, it's not genuine crystal. These are glass. And this is red jade. Only $2 a strand.

[00:17:01]Glass is still high quality compared to plastic, but let's be honest.

[00:17:05]And then, as I say, qualifications. I'm an indigenous bead artist who used those same exact beads from a different supplier to make a chain. They charge $200 for 8 hours of work. And this is like really beautiful. Look at like the actual pattern. Let's just go back to some of Tyler Catastrophe's work. That versus the other thing, which is like literally like less than half of the price. And I think the main issue that I had with this is not necessarily just the prices on their own, but how the creations of people of color are often diminished or ignored. Think about people like Elvis, who literally made a career out of basically stealing the songs of people of color and is still such a large cultural figure to this day. Think about like people taking edges and calling them sticky bangs as if edges have not existed for hundreds of years. But when edges are seen on a black person, it's it's ghetto. But when it's seen on a white person, oh, those are sticky bangs. How elegant, how quaint, how beautiful. I also think about things like language.

[00:18:06]Terms that have consistently been created by people of color that are disregarded as ghetto or, oh, that's not proper English. And yet, when it becomes a major cultural staple, there is never any recognition for the fact that this term was once considered something so awful to say that it deemed you as low class to say it. As you'll see in these next few clips, Tyler Catastrophe really does seem to think that his work is something groundbreaking or extraordinary. And while he seemingly tries to say the right things, it doesn't really show in the way that he acts as if he's God's great gift to bead work. Honestly, who wouldn't want to see all the cool stuff I make? I have almost 50 different choker designs, flowers, mushrooms, even witchy ones and Halloween ones, and tons of miscellaneous ones that are just really freaking cute. Have earrings, bracelets, keychains, and of course, the really intricate pieces that are made with real crystals. And all the more intricate ones come in cute little matching gift boxes, by the way. And as someone who spent nearly 10 years learning and mastering my craft, a little recognition would be nice. And I think it just really shows his ego, which is something that I think a lot of people take issue with and is something that really like put people off because even if you're like, well, the set thing was weird, when you keep scrolling down his page and you just see him acting like he's God's gift to the earth because he makes bead work that, you know, is, you know, it's not ugly. I'll give him that. Like untrained eye like me, it's not ugly, but it's but it's not exactly like the most revolutionary thing ever. This next section of the video, I think, is really going to focus on kind of the performative nature of a lot of what Tyler Catastrophe says because he will say these things, but I think oftent times they end up becoming redundant or even infantilizing to the groups that he claims to care about. And once again, this is something that's so common on the internet. How many times do people on the internet basically talk to black people as if we have no idea what we're talking about or as if we're children?

[00:19:56]when it's like, yeah, it would be nice to have the help of people who are in our community to support our causes. But also, it's like as a people, we do have the right to kind of say, "Hey, back up.

[00:20:06]You're doing a little too much." I am a bead worker who is not a recognized member of an indigenous tribe or nation.

[00:20:12]Which is actually why I bead the way that I do. It's why I avoid bead work with fringe. It's why I avoid the tight, repetitive bead work that is often seen in native work. It's why I avoid traditionally native motifs like the four directions and the bold opaque color schemes that are often seen in native work. And if I showed you this necklace that was inspired by a couture designer, put it next to something like this and ask you which one was more likely to have been made by a white man, you'd probably say this one. This is also funny because it's lowkey like an excuse that's like, yeah, my beeper could be better, but you know, I don't want to step on anybody's toes. I'm not saying that he should, you know, try to emulate that, but like it's just interesting, right? Is isn't that is it just me kind of seeing that as like a copout card of like, oh yeah, my jewelry can't be, you know, as intricate, so I'm not going to make it intricate, but I'm still going to charge the same price. Oh my gosh, guys. I I just got my new Tyler Catastrophe beads. Wow, look at those.

[00:21:05]Look at the quality and the, you know, I'm just going to put these on cuz, you know, they are just so well made. I think these are perfect for our next section actually because we're talking about performative activism. You know that friend who posted a black square during the Black Lives Matter movement and then refused to do anything else or any other introspection because apparently Tyler was, you know, glad to get hit by a black person's car. I'm not even joking. So, a giant truck rear ended my motorcycle today and I'm really glad I saw him coming and held the brake a little bit longer because I almost ended in the middle of no light intersection. The only real damage was a reflector on my license plate. But I was pretty shaken because the PTSD from my last crash is still pretty fresh. But the driver was an older black gentleman and he was super apologetic and explained that his brakes had been acting up and he misjudged the distance and handed me a $100 bill. I'm honestly just glad he hit me and not some other white person because people I know a lot of people in the Dallas area who would have immediately called the police and would never I would never involve the cops in anything I do. I just hope he takes it as a sign to get his brakes fist because I have a feeling he won't be so lucky twice. I think this is almost like a case study for the type of performative kind of boneless gritless activism that has really thrived online.

[00:22:18]It's actually not even activism. It's more so just judgment in a way to feel morally superior to others. And no, this is not a conservative video. This is actually a progressive video because I do think it's kind of interesting that a lot of the people in the powers that be are very quick to put on their cane cloth and kneel. But when it came to actual structural police reform after the 2020 uprisings, it was crickets from a lot of these politicians. That is because this boneless tweeting about something, not actually going out and protesting, not actually looking into ways to actually make a substantial difference in the way that we live is, I think, really popular right now because it's not really disruptive to the status quo at all. So many people have no idea how weird it felt in the wake of the Black Lives Matter movement. how weird it felt when your peers were kind of looking to you, when your peers were kind of filling you with their sympathy for things that their ancestors had done. While I think policies and things that address historic inequities are actually really great, I really don't like the kind of level of performative activism and I'm so sorry that comes with that. It puts your own emotional baggage and guilt on the people that are actually not wanting to have that additional baggage to the racism, the discrimination that they already have to deal with on a day-to-day basis. Tyler basically saying, "Hey, I'm so glad I hit this black person and not some other white person." One, it's a pure example of what I think is white saviorism. If you don't know what white saviorism is, I think the help is kind of a perfect example of this. these poor black maids can't do anything to get revenge, but this white woman writer, she's perfect.

[00:23:54]She can help them. And I'm not saying that's a bad movie. I love the movie, right? But I do think it's emblematic of a kind of saviorism that is so present in so much of our media and so much of our society. Even within more leftist and progressive circles, you often times have to deal with a person who can't accept the fact that you have independent thoughts or can't accept the fact that yes, I am able to function as an individual. I know some of you don't know this, so I will say it, but this is such a huge thing. Children dancing in the old ways was illegal for such a long time. Only the elders were allowed to dance and only in specific ceremonies in some cases because they were too old for residential schools while children were forbidden from participating in so many tradition as a way to try and kill off our native cultures. Again, it's like that level of parasociality, but applied to actual world issues to a point where it's actually weird and disturbing. Now, let me talk a little bit about the internet's kind of overall response to, you know, what we just saw, what's happened, right? As I said earlier, countless deep dives that kind of just go over the same information that we've seen time and time again. Sorry, hope my video wasn't like that. You know, very baseline commentary, not really looking into the deeper aspects of what kind of causes this behavior or what this really means and kind of just repeating the same old things. We've also really seen, I think, an upswing in like just Tik Toks that don't even have any substance as it pertains to anything that Tyler Catastrophe has said and done. Don't really have any substance as it pertains to why they feel that Tyler Catastrophe, what Tyler Catastrophe did was wrong, even though it is obviously wrong. And more so just taking this as an opportunity to mock his appearance, to call him ugly, to do all these things.

[00:25:33]And you know, like I said in a video that I think is almost a year old now, a video that I made in the wake of the tragedy that befell Topofia's family in which multiple members of her family were literally killed as they were homeless in their car. I I have to say that the internet has this real obsession with taking these people who have done obviously wrong things who are obviously, you know, a little odd and just kind of making it into the circus.

[00:25:55]I found this really interesting article on the anthropology of local cows and I just find it really interesting kind of some of the characteristics that they listed. So I just wanted to take a look at this specifically this section why we milk the cow ritual cow watching functions like a town square punishment a recurring performance of public shame projection viewers externalize their own failings gluttony laziness delusion onto the local then then ridicule them to feel cleansed. Just as lals cannot stop producing content audiences cannot stop consuming it. The line between comedy and cruelty remains. Then what begins as entertainment often becomes exploitation. Locals remind us of the ancient archetype of the fool. Pied, mocked, and paradoxically necessary.

[00:26:35]They serve as scapegoats for collective anxieties, embodying what we fear most in ourselves.

[00:26:40]I feel like as someone who has had, you know, parasocial celebrity crushes, who has kind of participated in some of the same performative and not really transformative thinking that Tyler has kind of exemplified throughout this as a person who sometimes experienced, you know, not necessarily delusions, but just thoughts that you are grand or that you are better than other people. Even though that may not be necessary by evidence, I can see exactly how the internet is so mad at Tyler catastrophe.

[00:27:07]Tyler really is just the embodiment of so many of these things that we hate about ourselves. And there's also this really ethically murky territory that we dive into, right? Tyler's income, his livelihood is kind of based off of people buying his art, meaning that he is going to have to stay online to advertise his art. He is going to have to stay online to advertise things like his GoFundMe. So, it's like he can't really just step away. He can't really just go. And I do feel like in the course of trying to expose Tyler, there has been a lot of weird stuff going on.

[00:27:40]Uh, I didn't put this in the video and I don't really want to show this, but I guess I'll just show a screen grab from this, right? Someone literally made an entire TikTok examining the car crash that Tyler says literally left him in so much chronic pain. It's so weird. It gets to a point where it's just like, "This ain't funny anymore. I don't care anymore." The first time I made this video, it was more so of kind of a basic, haha, this is so funny. This is so weird. But then watching it back, I just thought, this isn't helping at all.

[00:28:11]Nothing I said was new. Nothing I said was transformative. And at the end of the day, Tyler Catastrophe is still going to be making content online because that's literally what his livelihood depends on. The last thing I want to do in this video is kind of watch his apology video and examine it at least a little bit together and just talk about some things that leapt out to me that I found very interesting about it.

[00:28:34]>> This video is probably going to be the full 10 minutes because doing a part two feels really if you could please bear with me and stay to the end. I have a lot to say and there's a lot you need to know and apologies that need to be made.

[00:28:40]And I need to just play it all out on the table all at once because for the past month and a half, almost two months now, has been a non-stop panic for me because when this all started and it was just people misinterpreting a video about a crush on the band, assuming a lot of things that were not true or just straight up calling me cringe and ugly.

[00:28:50]A lot of the advice I was getting was just to keep posting confidently and showing that they're not getting to you.

[00:28:53]And the internet has a short attention span and I followed that advice. And when the death threat started, I think we all greatly underestimated just how far some people were going to go in order to hurt me and the people I care about, my family, my friends, anyone and everyone who has ever interacted with or supported me in any way. by the time.

[00:29:04]>> So, one, I am going to acknowledge how hard I think a real good apology is to actually do, but I do think he's putting a lot of leg work into saying that we misinterpreted this video. And I think the video was clearly very parasocial, very weird. Even on a base level, let's just say we're not even talking about the videos that have come out of you literally defending a person who had abuse allegations against them. Like, that is weird. I will also say though that I do think that the internet has this propensity for black and white thinking. So many people lack nuance in this situation because here's where I am, right? I think that Tyler Catastrophe did a lot of bad things. Did a lot of things that rightfully he was called out for. But I do think that people on the internet took it entirely too far, started stalking him lowkey and making him into this lol cow, which is like just basically stalking 2.0, but it's it's okay because this person did bad thing. I think when someone does something wrong, yes, they should be held accountable. Absolutely. And this is not a, "Oh, what he did is totally okay because he apologized. One, I'm not really in the communities that he is fully offended." But it it's just weird.

[00:30:13]>> What's happening, it was every second of every day, and I didn't know what the [ __ ] to do. And in trying to put out any fire I could reach, I made a lot more mistakes. And every time I thought it was going to be okay, something else happened. And because I have a lot of commitments keeping me online, the GoFundMe orders I need to finish, I could not step away. So, I wound up in this awful spiral, barely eating, barely sleeping. So, I completely checked out for a day or two trying to just let myself catch up. And if you don't mind, I would like very much to try again. So, firstly, I do not refer to myself as spirit. I have mistakenly done so in the past in 2023, I think, in a video I honestly thought I deleted because I realized right after I posted the video that I [ __ ] up. And when I made a more recent video about the differences between my own work and the work done by other native and indigenous people around me and have unearthing that whole video that I had already self-corrected and again thought I had deleted with everything else going on, I panicked. I ended up making another video that I did not think through. The words I ended up saying were entirely wrong. And my exhaustion and overwhelming moment does not excuse it. I [ __ ] up and I am genuinely sorry. I promise I am just as with myself as anyone else was and I have been corrected. But I knew that I could not address it until I had dealt with more of the mental stuff. I promise the delay was not me trying to avoid accountability. It was just me trying to avoid another mistake. I have never meant any disrespect to native indigenous communities. I just picked all the wrong words and I am so [ __ ] sorry. My second point when it comes to the in trouble situation. Firstly, please understand that there is really no good way to say any of what needs to be said. Honestly, I probably should have just never commented on any of it at all. But when I post that video two and a half years ago, there was still a lot of confusion. I'm >> going to have to quickly rebut here and just say very blatantly that there I don't think there was that much confusion at that point. I think yes there was maybe confusion in the fact that people thought that Wilbur wouldn't be capable of this type of thing but you do have a person who was literally in a personal relationship with him saying that this is what happened. I think the confusion is people not being able to accept that because I like person on internet that means they cannot do a bad thing and it's like yes they can do a bad thing >> and the only reason I posted that video was because there were multiple people asking me my opinion and at the time there was a lot of harm being done just from the communities and fandom surrounding this and I stayed away from anything other than Shelby statement because with anything else I just felt that there wasn't enough information and a lot of conflicting information that I didn't fully understand and didn't want to speak on because I didn't understand it and because I saw a lot of people treating Wilbur statement as an admission of guilt when to me it did seem genuine and like he honestly didn't understand the extent of the harm he had done and was doing therapy and stuff to be better in the future. I felt very strongly about the way it was being treated from an outside perspective. And I saw a lot of uninvolved people getting hurt. And while my intention with that video was to reduce harm, I wound up letting my own perspective and interpretation kind of take over the video. Things that got left out, things that didn't mean to be left in, things that should have been said very differently. And honestly, I should have just left it alone because a lot of people I was dealing with at the time were people who I thought were missing the point, not realizing just how badly I had missed my own point. I wound up getting really unnecessarily frustrated and wound up just really badly doubling down over time, which just made everything so much worse. And while part of me wants to clear up several more things, every time I try, it just keeps keep sounding like justifications. And at this point, I think I just need to bow out, admit that I went about things the wrong way, and wound up investing myself in something that was none of my business. I promise I have learned from this. I will continue learning from this, and I will refrain from inserting myself into things like this in the future.

[00:32:34]>> The last section of the apology video is really just kind of regarding a situation where Wilbur was mad at a person for not giving him a job when that person never really said they were going to give him a job. And I don't think it's particularly relevant. And, you know, I value all your time. I do just kind of want to wrap up the video with some of my final thoughts. I think that local culture truly has to die. Not only for the reason that it it's very ethically odd, but I also think that it really allows and kind of lets this culture of surveillance and basically being able to bully a person when they do something that you perceive as being wrong, it allows that to just flourish.

[00:33:14]I think that when we move on to actually trying to hold people accountable, i.e., I hate to say it, but deplatforming them, not watching their content. I know I'm contributing to this negatively by giving Tyler more, you know, clout or whatever, but it's kind of just a catch22 situation, right? Because it's like I want to talk about situations like this cuz I do think they're so relevant to the internet today. Like, like I was saying, so many people participate in this type of behavior.

[00:33:40]And when it's seen in like these people who were able to easily latch on to and say, "Hey, this person did a bad thing.

[00:33:46]I can bully them." It's just so easy to continue like this cycle of just bullying vitriol without actually addressing the underlying problems, i.e. the insane amount of parasociality online. But that's pretty much all from me for today. Let me know what you thought in the comments. Did you think this was a nuance video? Do you think I said anything different from other videos? I hope I said something different. Um, yeah. I will see you all next time. Thank you all so much for watching. Bye everybody.

[00:34:24]Oh my god.