This exchange demonstrates that profound theological differences can be explored with dignity rather than hostility. It is a rare example of how civil discourse can prioritize the search for truth over the simple need to be right.
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Disagreement turns into thisAdded:
I can't hear you. I don't understand you.
What?
Are you Whitney Houston? I Whitney, I thought you DIED IN THE BATHROOM.
WHITNEY.
OH, I WANT TO DANCE WITH SOMEBODY.
I WANT TO FEEL THE HEAT WITH SOMEBODY.
YEAH.
SO YOU GUYS KNOW THAT GOD WANTS YOU TO HAVE A GOOD TIME. God wants you to laugh. Some people get involved in Christianity and they're just like I'm good. How are you? Good. Good. You got a question or comment?
>> No, I'm just looking at you. Looking at this phone.
I think God bless you. What do you believe about Jesus?
I don't believe in anything. What? Why?
You didn't listen to everything I was just saying. I just came here. Bro, did you know the Bible's full of prophecy?
It's historically historically and archaeologically accurate. And if you seek Jesus, you'll find him. That's a promise.
If I see Jesus Seek him. If you earnestly seek him, you will find him.
You bro. See he's already getting some of the joy of the Lord. You got to yeah.
And then bro bro bro bro, don't run away. This is the most important moment of your life. Take one of those. We love you, bro.
We love you.
>> killed me, man. So one of my buddies said I found God. I said where was he?
Behind the fridge?
Are you a Christian?
>> [laughter] >> I was baptized.
I never got confirmed. Is some confirmed? Confirmed Catholic. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Confirmed I was what?
Catholic? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So like you get your parents chose you to be baptized and then you choose confirmation as a adult. I never did that. So you you you think the Catholic Church is the best way? Yeah. No. Right.
I don't think any church is the best way. Pretty my personal opinion. However, I don't think you guys are doing anything bad right now. Amen. But we're we're the body of Christ is everyone that's born again, right? So in that way the church is good, but I get what you're saying.
You don't agree with the building, right?
I can't just stick to just one thing, right? And I'm not saying anybody is right or anybody is wrong. Right.
It's just more about like it's about having beliefs, so right? Well, is there if God is real, is there has to be there has to be one truth in the universe, right? But I don't agree that there's just one God.
You don't agree there's just one God?
I don't think anybody's got it right.
That's my problem. Well, bro, human beings might not have it right, but you got to admit that if there is truth in the universe, right? I'll agree with you on that one. Right. So if there is truth in the universe, then we're we're we're obligated to find out what that truth is, right? Touché. Right. And I would argue with you, bro.
I know preaching that the Bible is the truth, right? So it's sad, bro, how many people live their whole life and they don't actually consider what the truth is. Why we're here, what happens when we die and things of this nature, right? So I just encourage you, bro, to start reading the Bible. If you believe the Bible's true, start reading the New Testament over and over and over. Apply it to your life.
Make Jesus Lord. Believe the gospel.
That that's the purpose of your life, man.
100%.
I think that, right? We're going to give you some of those. One. Bro, they're all the same.
Yeah.
>> [laughter] >> We're running low on meat, man.
We're just some poor preachers, bro.
Yeah, conservative.
Kevin, are you consider will you consider more about Jesus and following him after today?
I will sit there and just accept what you're saying.
I'm not going to say that I think it's the right thing. However, I'm not going to say you're wrong. Bro, okay. I'll take it.
I'll take it. What do you got, big dog?
Believe in Jesus and be saved, You too, Kev.
God bless you, bro.
Are you Are you Muslim? Yeah, I'm Muslim.
>> You're Muslim? Bro bro bro, why? Tell me why Tell me why should anybody become a Muslim?
I don't I don't have a real reason, but like we're all brothers in religion. What? Bro, the Quran says Jews and Christians are the lowest types of creatures, though. So how are we all brothers? Is that what Islam really teaches? Is that what you think Islam really teaches?
Cuz it says Jews and Christians are the worst types of creatures, right? Islam is the only religion religion on the planet that actually purposely attacks other religions. By name. No. I will give you Bro, sura 98:6. You want me to read it to you?
Sorry? Let me tell you something. Tell me. I will give you an information. Huh?
Information.
I will give you an information, but Jesus is Lord. That's what's going on.
Preach, bro. Preach, bro. In the Quran, Jesus mentioned more than the prophet Muhammad.
Cuz he's way better than Muhammad, but that doesn't make the Quran true, bro.
It is.
You But you bro, this is how much you know about your own religion. You came up to me and told me we're all brothers and kumbaya, but the Quran purposely hates Jews and Christians. It goes out of its way to spread hate towards Jews and Christians. Yes, it does. Why you say that? Cuz it says what your bib Bro, that's what your book says. I didn't say it. Allah said it. The sura 98:6 says Jews and Christians are the worst types of creatures. Sura 9:29 says fight all the unbelievers, bro. Islam has beef with everybody.
>> [laughter] >> That's why we're telling you it's whack.
Jesus is the right way. Do you know the Bible's full of prophecy? The Quran has none. Why is the Bible full of miracles?
The Quran has none except for Allah split [laughter] the moon. But the moon is still there. You believe that? You actually believe that stuff? And the Quran's an amalgamation of a bunch of folklore, fairy tales, the Talmud, the infancy gospel of Thomas that the early church rejected, right? And so when you start to realize that you're like, bro, did just some crazy dude in a cave make this up? And then you read a little more and you're like, bro, a crazy dude in a cave made this up.
You know what I mean? Islam is trash, bro. Okay, give me >> We love you and we want you to be saved.
The Bible says if you make Jesus Lord and believe the gospel, you will be saved, bro, and that's why you're here today. Hallelujah.
Hallelujah. But give >> [laughter] >> We believe in Jesus, too. Yeah, you believe in the wrong Jesus.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wrong Jesus. Give me Islam is a dumpster fire, bro.
No, no, no. Don't say that.
Prove it to you, man. There's no prophecy in the Quran. There's no miracles in the Quran. The Quran has contradictions all over the place. How many time How many days did it take Allah to create the world? Seven days.
Seven? Bro, one part of the Quran says eight and the other part says six.
I said seven, bro.
Oh, that's You're talking about the Bible. The Bible says seven. He rested on the seventh day. Give me a proof like we have like Islam have to prove like to fight other religions. Sura 9:29 says fight the unbelievers until they submit. And I'll let Let me Let me finish and I'll let you go. That's a standing command to everybody. Sura 9 is one of the last suras written. And so the last later stuff written abrogates the earlier stuff, right? So the West is being fed a watered-down version of Islam today where it's ah it's all kumbaya, it's peaceful, but the classical scholars classical Islam, bro, Muhammad killed hundreds of people. The Shiites and the Sunnis killed each other. They tried to take over Europe and Africa and all of this stuff. Islam is violent as heck, bro, and it always has been. So your version what you have believe in Islam is not real Islam.
The Shiites and Sunnis came after the prophet. Yeah, true.
But they were they said they says that Muhammad's generation was the best generation of Muslims and they all killed each other, bro, and Muhammad slaughtered hundreds of people. And the goal of Islam is to be like Muhammad and he was a caravan robber, a mass murderer, and a pedophile, bro. Like contrast him to Jesus. Contrast him to Jesus, bro. The Bible's full of prophecy. It's accurate historically and archaeologically.
>> [laughter] >> And Jesus, bro, look. Everybody listening, look at Jesus, man. Jesus is the prince of peace. Jesus laid down his life for his friends. Jesus made a way for us all to be saved. Muhammad didn't give us any of that, bro. Muhammad gave us a bunch of problems. That's it.
Okay, bro.
>> [laughter] >> I'm just giving you something to think about. We love you, big dog. I'm just want to tell you something. Okay, you make a mock of my religion, but I totally respect you and this I respect you, too. Just not Islam.
Islam is trash, bro, but we love you and we care about you.
>> going to heaven, bro? Are you going to heaven?
Are you going to heaven?
Are you going to go to heaven? Because I don't know. Why don't you know?
Yeah, so the thing is Do you believe that God loves us?
Of course. Okay, so we believe that heaven is an actual location, correct?
>> Amen. Yeah. So that's where God is, correct?
Like Okay, but God is everywhere, but the the central location of God is Jannah. We all want to get to Jannah cuz God is there. Is that correct? Yeah. Okay. If God loves us, he would give us a way to get back to him. He would show us how to get there. It wouldn't be by his will.
We wouldn't have to say mashallah or inshallah. He would give us a road map.
What Christians are saying is that Jesus Christ gave us a road map. He says I am the way, the truth, and the life. If we follow Jesus, we'll make it to Jannah. A A religion We we argue religion. We argue Quran and Bible. That's That doesn't matter. What matters is what happens to our soul when we die. The Christians are saying that Jesus Christ died, resurrected from the dead, came back and told us what death is like and how to get to our father, how to get to Allah, how to get to Jannah. And that's what we're saying.
We're saying that if if if if if Islam was true and Allah loved us, he would show us how to get to heaven. and that's that's the problem that we have with the Quran. He doesn't show Muslims, he doesn't show non-believers. We don't know how to get there. It's all by his will. This is too important to leave up to chance, bro. It's too important to leave up to will. We um if God loves us, he would give us a map a sure fire way how to get there. Amen. Christians have a sure way, Jesus. That's why he is the way.
What's the map?
Prayers. So, you pray your way into heaven? Yeah, of course. So, it's not about Allah, it's about you. As long as you pray enough, you'll get into heaven.
We have five times prayer every day. So, if you pray if I pray five times a day, I'm going to heaven?
But uh no, it's not Amen. God doesn't love you, bro. That's the point I'm making. Allah doesn't love Muslims, bro. Muhammad hates your guys' guts because if he loved you, he would show you how to get to Allah. He would show you how to get to heaven. Don't drink alcohols, don't have sex, don't do drugs, pray. Everyone drinks alcohol, everyone has sex, everyone does drugs. So, how do we get to heaven? In the Bible, it's not Do Do you take When you go to the doctor and they and they prescribe medicine, do you take it? That's a drug. Everyone does drugs, everyone drinks, everyone Everyone sins. We have all sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. How are we forgiven for our sins, brother?
In the Bible, you're you're forbidden to drink. Yes. No, we're not. We can drink wine.
The Bible The Bible says we can drink wine.
I don't have sex, too. You don't have sex? Yeah. It's so bad for you. I'm going to get a wife and I'm going to have a lot of sex when I marry her.
[laughter] You can't have a wife and get married and have sex. Yes, amen.
Okay. Me too. I don't have sex outside of marriage. I'm also celibate. You can't You can't have a girlfriend and you have sex every day. No, I don't We don't We're not talking about that, bro.
I don't have I don't have a girlfriend and I don't have sex.
Yeah, amen. That's in the map, too.
Yeah, but the thing is the thing is even if I did have sex, God would forgive me for it and and I could get to heaven because Jesus Christ is the way, the truth, and the life. You don't have sex.
You do all these good deeds and you're saying Allah is going to be like, "Hmm, he prayed, he did he did zakat, he uh didn't have sex, come in." So, basically what you're saying is you get into heaven by your own merits. You pray, you get into heaven. You do good deeds, you get into heaven. You listen to this person, you get into heaven.
That makes you God. Everyone This is God.
>> [laughter] >> He This is God, everyone.
He can get into heaven just by doing by doing whatever he can do. You pray, you're going to get in there. That's like you might as well be God, bro.
You're taking You're taking the mic so I can't speak.
You have You have other people, you love everyone, you respect other religions, we we believe in all other religions.
You respect shaitan? No, of course Okay, so you don't respect other religions. In this country, Satanism is another religion. In America, Satanism, devil worship is an actual religion and you get a 501c, you get tax exempt for being a Satanist. So, you So, you Yeah, amen. So, you don't respect other religions. Neither do I.
Amen. It's not a religion. It is, brother. In this It shouldn't be. I agree with you, it shouldn't be, but in this in the times that we're living in, it is. That's why we don't respect all religions.
We do. So, you don't So, you respect Satan? Respect shaitan?
Respect Muhammad. Amen, of course you don't, bro. No one No one respects shaitan.
Yeah, we don't respect him.
Amen. So, the certain It's okay to disrespect certain religions. That's the point I'm making. If your religion is satanic, it's okay not to respect it.
>> You created that religion. There is no existing religion. There is. It's It's shaitan real?
Yeah, it is. Do people worship him?
There is religion, but Amen. They do, bro. You know that.
Matter of fact, even even Prophet Muhammad, false prophet Muhammad, when he went to the Kaaba, there was a whole bunch of idols, right? False prophet Muhammad got rid of the idols and and made just one Allah. Allah is one, right? But there was idols. So, if they were worshipping other idols, that means those people were worshipping a different Satan other other than Allah.
So, there there's been Satan worship forever. If anybody who worships an idol is worshipping Satan by default, right?
If I If I worship that camera right there and I say and I bow down to it, I'm worshiping That's basically worshiping It may be a camera, but I'm worshipping Satan because I'm committing shirk, right?
Amen. Yeah. Amen. So, we don't respect all religions. We respect the truth. And Jesus Christ is the way, the truth, AND THE LIFE.
>> [music] >> JEHOVAH NISSI >> [music] >> LORD, YOU REIGN IN VICTORY.
JEHOVAH
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