Trench Capital EP1 — IS THE BOTTOM IN? BTC, ALTS & THE NEXT ROTATION

Added: 2026-05-29

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[00:01:51]5 4 3 2 1 Ladies and gentlemen, We are live.

[00:02:05]>> What is up, guys? What is up? What is up? Welcome.

[00:02:09]>> Welcome to Trench.

[00:02:11]>> How's it going? What's up?

[00:02:12]>> How's it going, Alpha Baller? How you doing?

[00:02:15]>> Oh, man. Man, man, what a [ __ ] time to start Trench Capital with PullShain at Altime Low and we have BTC dumping ready, you know. So, hey, you know, you know how it goes.

[00:02:55]That's funny. I didn't have my mic on.

[00:02:57]I'm speaking the whole time and next thing you know there's Can you hear me now? Yeah.

[00:03:01]>> Yeah. Yeah, I can hear you. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:03:03]I was like, "Oh my god." You know, we started with some small delay like some technical issues, but that's how it goes every single time.

[00:03:12]>> The Mac had to update and then I'm just like, "Oh, for goodness sake." You know, this the camera's not working. this is not working. That's not working.

[00:03:20]Whatever it is what it is. Uh I was just going to say or what I was saying when I was muted was like I've been saying that we're in a bare market, right? But but people we still hope we still hang on to the hope because you get nice little pumps and we had like this relief rally.

[00:03:35]I'm just seeing Bitcoin right now like 74,500 bucks. Amazing. Um amazing. Yeah.

[00:03:42]Yeah. Yeah. I see you.

[00:03:43]>> Amazing. Amazing opportunity. Yeah.

[00:03:47]>> I'm back. Come back, bro. Just wait.

[00:03:51]But um guys, we can like and share real quick. Get this out. Um yeah, what's your uh what's your force, man? Because I'm starting to see a lot of people post like, "Oh, the bottom's in. The bottom's in for cryptos." So, you know, cuz people bearish now and just suddenly switch. I I don't know. What's your what's your thoughts, bro?

[00:04:11]Uh bottom is saying probably for the people that are still left around hanging, you know.

[00:04:19]>> That's true. Yeah. There's a lot of people hanging around. There's a lot of people that clinging on just being like, please just just pump a little just >> just just do 3x, >> which would be back to like all time.

[00:04:35]So, like just just just pump like two 3x and then and then I'll I'll I'll pull I'll pull out, you know. Did you see the coin fessions thing where um there was that guy? I don't know if it's true or not. Okay, I reposted it. It seems like the best engagement right now is literally just pchain fud. It's like it's like I'll post something and it's getting like 20 30,000 views or whatever. But um >> it was the one where the guy was like, "Oh, I made $22 million.

[00:05:06]I put in another 7 million of my Bitcoin into Hex and then it it dumped and I'm like low key. I think there's there's a possibility that's a true story, but I'm not sure. I'm not sure.

[00:05:21]What's your thoughts?"

[00:05:23]Uh, I mean looking back at the hex wheels, looking back at you know what the pool chain wheels where they were flexing like watches, cars, millions, everything, you know, that convention actually might be true.

[00:05:42]>> Yeah. Yeah. just it it's just it's a it's a thing to laugh because like man you like you just DCA like 202 millions probably like some people looking at this is like bro that's lifech changing money you know and he's still in crypto he's still like like you want more it's like that's the beauty why we are [ __ ] here you know why we are in the [ __ ] trenches why we are like >> still though like you wouldn't you wouldn't you position size that like anyone who's in long enough goes right okay I probably need to buy like people don't just buy Bitcoin off of the first maybe back in the day okay but I'm talking about like new gen Gen Z slash like millennials they don't just buy Bitcoin straight off the straight off the rip and and then after a while you go I should probably buy should probably chuck a little bit of you know 20 >> couple you know yeah couple millions a couple of millions just like you know in in hacks W Shane.

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[00:06:46]>> Hey. Hey, look at that. Grandmaster Hex says that's a Gary's friend, you know.

[00:06:52]So maybe actually a true story.

[00:06:54]>> Yeah. Yeah.

[00:06:56]>> Hard confession.

[00:06:57]>> I I I really don't like for those that don't know, Gary Woods, big community member uh specifically in the Pulchen ecosystem. Very well-connected guy.

[00:07:08]I don't, you know, like there are a couple guys that I really, really respect in the community. Trevor's one of them. Gary Woods is another. Um, I'm trying to think of like bigger Crypto Coffee is another one as well. And >> shout out Crypto Coffee, the one that brought me to [ __ ] pool chain. Let's go.

[00:07:30]>> There you go. Crypto Coffee. Let's go.

[00:07:32]And a lot of these guys like I really respect them because they've been in the game or they they they've got skin in the game. They brought in like like big big people who who So if they're pissed off, right, and if they're posting about being pissed off, I I don't have any problem with it.

[00:07:48]>> You know what I mean? Because they've got more skin in the game and more reputational damage if >> if things go south. And because things are going south and because things are bearish, it's like, well, no [ __ ] they're going to be pissed off. and and and people like, "Oh, you're like cryfagen or you're crying about the price." Like, dude, your $1,000 DCA, you know, once a year or once every quarter or whatever, you know, however much you can gather is nothing compared to what this guy has probably put in and been a part of. It's probably been a bigger bigger whale or bigger individual in the ecosystem.

[00:08:22]you know the person can have a if they want to say their mind they can say their piece you know especially if from the top down the marketing's not been good there's not been push for product there's not been it's been slow with narratives and agendas and stuff like that it's okay to criticize sometimes don't be deluded and and and just never criticize but come up with solutions I think that's the other thing is like look look for solutions crypto overall, bro. The the whole vibe around that it's been kind of a, you know, hot chairs. So, you have a just jump jump, catch the next wave. Uh, so yeah. Well, it's a pity that we got, you know, this kind of stories, but uh that's that's how crypto works, man.

[00:09:13]Some people turn from 100 bucks like tens of millions. And there there is the dark side of that.

[00:09:21]>> Yeah.

[00:09:24]>> I mean like um >> I I saw Did you see the guy um I think his name's Crypto Nick? Guy with the big nose, you know, the big like >> the big nose.

[00:09:36]>> Yeah, big nose guy, right? He's like he does all these skits on on X and stuff.

[00:09:42]And he was talking about how, you know, you don't blame the found Don't blame the founder of Salana if uh he was he bought or he held up until $280 Salana and now obviously >> Oh yeah. Oh. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Bro, >> you know what video I'm talking about?

[00:10:00]Maybe.

[00:10:00]>> Yeah. Yeah. You know that guy just he also launched a memecoin just like recently and he was like guys yeah >> why he just like launch some shitty meme coin to get some >> yo >> we got some we got some people man oh jeez >> yeah hello guys we'll go on to the comments as well but like the video get it out there we're going to be trying to do this on a regular basis like Monday or Friday um and obviously the themes are like well trenching I mean like number one trenching but also we're multi-chain guys um so I think exposure to different projects outside of you know what what your typical ecosystem is but also inside of that as well I I think that people want to know what's going on you look at stuff like for example Hyperlid man I don't know if you've been watching what's been happening with Hyperlid but Hyperlid at alltime high uh it's the buy and burn that we wanted on Pulseex But we didn't get you know I said it's like >> yeah yeah yeah >> a lot of people were comparing it from the beginning when it was the lows you know uh buy and burn everything but it was like a much bigger bigger audience to capture.

[00:11:18]>> So that's an interesting topic. Yeah.

[00:11:20]>> Yeah. We'll talk about how I mean like it's it's pretty insane. Um and privacy coins seem to be going up as well. Um but obviously general market is yeah pretty hooked >> you know you know MGK why what we didn't do actually I didn't introduce myself at all so some people knew my me some people don't really actually who the [ __ ] are you bro >> who the [ __ ] is alpha baller yeah I got on pullchain like quite late quite late like maybe started with a pulse sacrifice as most of the people saw the videos hundreds of hacks promised you know like getting rich of 500 bucks sacrificed I was like >> wait expectations of profits bro from the work >> yeah of course no no no expectations bro just 10,000 eggs you know that it w it was on the wall like hey 10 10,000 eggs just okay no expectation uh but yeah and I s I saw my I literally saw my 500 bucks in six months going to zero slowly, you know. Yeah. On the first big deep, I was like, wait, wait, wait. Why? Why my money is like 50 bucks right now.

[00:12:44]That's that's when I started to pay attention to pool chain. That's when I was getting, you know, my my feet inside this community. And I was like, okay, you know, came for the mining state for the community. That's kind of the alpha baller. Just transi transitioned from NFTs like run it literally alpha baller from NFTs 500 bucks to like six figures back down to zero found pool chain and that's where my journey start. So >> Okay. Okay. And what was in the trenches?

[00:13:21]>> NFTs exclusively that you were into or were you dabbling in other coins as well?

[00:13:26]>> Uh just NFTs. I had no idea about what is coins, what is like hacks, what is poolchain, what are blockchains, bro. I just knew like if NFTs that was the meta that that that's how my introduction.

[00:13:40]>> No Salana, no base. Wow. Basically >> no. And I was lucky I was lucky enough to to see one of random like either live streams like that like how we are doing you know so it's a good on board overall and outreach >> either it was a small clip about like probably a sacrifice there were there were a lot of them and that's how like my introduction with pool chain crypto and everything came >> you know I hate that word sacrifice bro like >> Yeah Yeah. Well, we had plenty of them.

[00:14:18]So, that's normal to hate it.

[00:14:22]>> Yeah. Yeah. It's it's it's more the fact that, you know, like obviously it's just it's an IPO, right? It's money raising round and we all know it, but just we're just like painting again just like painting what something is like Provex.

[00:14:35]What is it? It's basically privacy based. I I think someone said it was a copy of something else. was like, "Okay, well, >> yeah, ZK proof."

[00:14:46]>> TK proof. That's right. Come on. That was what I was looking for. So, let's not let's just call it how it is. Let's not like like pretend, you know, let's not let's not there will be a lot of, you know, let's call how it is on this stream probably.

[00:15:03]>> 100%, man. 100%. And I think also it's just like it's like well okay I think people are in this position now where they're like okay what's the next step is because obviously we we've been heavy pole chain guys so it's like is chain still going to be about is there still I think there's always going to be opportunities but >> bullsh 100%. Well, but yeah, I'm pulling, but but also like I I I think that there is you're going to get OGs or guys who have been in for a long time who decided this cycle, right, all I'm going to do is just I'm going to buy, hold, and wait for price to go up and it didn't didn't happen. Where you're going to go, right, well, now it's time to dip my feet in different things like try different things, go different avenues, stuff like that. So, we'll see. We'll see if if people do, but like they'll get into the meme coins. They'll get into probably privacy coins. They'll probably get into things that AI coins or AI narratives or stuff like that. So, it'll be it'll be interesting to see. Um >> Oh, yeah.

[00:16:07]>> Let's let's go.

[00:16:09]>> Yeah. Go on. Sorry.

[00:16:11]Uh there is a lot a lot of topics you know there's a lot of uh things going outside only of the number go up and price.

[00:16:22]>> So there is like actual people trying to get you know the tech in and like spread the word about crypto. So uh pretty excited for the future man.

[00:16:33]That's why we are building this you know like probably one of the best time ever to lock in and the people that will enter now and will follow like the smart mind smart money. That's why kind of the logo what we're trying to build over here you know just get that smart mind around and like share the knowledge be in the trenches find about the new tech new opportunities. Uh this is like the beauty of crypto. Just get in the low, get a lot of information.

[00:17:05]>> Yeah. I mean like the low I think will come or we in uh >> big discussion about the low. Huh?

[00:17:12]>> We're in Q2. So probably Q3, Q4 and next like of this year. I I think Q4 but that would be like October, November, December. But then, you know, it could could preemptively happen by Q3.

[00:17:27]So, I mean, yeah, let let's see. But I I've been calling on it for a while.

[00:17:33]We'll see. We'll see. Like, >> yeah, I I know you've been quite bearish, bro. I remain the only one bullish the whole time, but I've been seeing my bag just, you know, decline this way.

[00:17:45]>> Well, I I I just wonder where people get the bullishness from, right? Like I'm just wondering okay what are the catalyst events that actually going to happen that are going to change the course of of the trajectory of of the trend of the overall trend.

[00:18:00]>> That's that's where I couldn't understand it because people were like ah you know this is going to happen or that's going to happen or monry printing's going to happen. And I said, "Okay, well, what's the event?" Because usually when we have like crazy monetary printing, what's the event that's going to kick that off or what's the thing that's going to kick it off? You could possibly say the war with Iran um could be a factor, but you know, there was just just so many things. And then I I knew that there's going to be a Fed chair that's going to come in this month, right? That um changing, but >> he can't implement those changes until I think the first first um Federal Reserve meeting is either June or July. So even if you implement the first change from then and then you go, okay, I'm going to do rate cuts or whatever, which I don't think he's going to do. Going to do rate cuts from June, July, whatever.

[00:18:55]and do say rate cuts one, two, three, four times because you'd have to do it multiple times with very small amounts of interest rate cut. Those things for them to actually settle in on the market and actually affect the markets um to be priced in positively takes time because when you do you're you're basically destabilizing the the markets. You're destabilizing what what's um what's coming. So yeah, I'm still >> Why why why doesn't bring that, you know, chart up and we have a look also at like Bitcoin and everything cuz uh it's been bleeding lately, man. It's been bleeding.

[00:19:34]>> Let's bring it out, man.

[00:19:36]>> Marco Marcelo Packs down 98%. It's about to go time, baby. Yeah, I don't know about that, buddy.

[00:19:44]>> Yeah, let's let's shout out a few people. Shout out to Fi. Uh what's up, bro? Um, welcome to into the stream.

[00:19:51]Sure feels like a bottom. Time to DCA a smidge. Yeah, if you feel happy to. Uh, shout out to MVS. Uh, MVS, good morning, brothers. Say cheese. How's it going?

[00:20:03]Thanks for the thanks for the stream.

[00:20:05]Uh, Hexagon Lost in Asia. Nice to see you as well. Uh, shout out to Grandmaster as well. Alli, uh, I need to see the emojis on this because it doesn't show >> Ar is the emoji guy, bro. He doesn't know how to speak. He'll just spam like hundreds of them.

[00:20:22]>> I heard uh Did you know that Nick got uh got got that? Yeah, I heard that.

[00:20:29]I hope he recovers well. Uh nice to see World of Cars as well. How you doing?

[00:20:35]Until crypto is mandatory in some way.

[00:20:38]We stay in the trenches. Maybe the GTA Clarity Act will help. No expectations though. I don't know if GTA even comes out this year. What? I think they're saying November. Um I I like this comment. Um this time isn't different.

[00:20:51]All been business as usual with short-term factors sprinkled in like always. Uh subdues. Yeah, bro. I completely agree with you. I absolutely agree with Matt. Like it's just I think everyone wants it so badly to be different. Um but but let's be real, it's just same old same old, man. Like there's nothing there's nothing >> old same old. Yeah. Yeah. I you know um yeah everyone wants the four year cycle to be broken. Um >> I mean looking back at it like even if you look at the overall total three you look at Bitcoin we already all already are repeating the old fouryear cycle right so you can't say that it's broken is it too early to say that that we're already following the like for the past six months the old chart you know like old fourear cycle And you know, >> well, I mean, >> we do have a declaration, that's for sure, from every like from the stocks and everything. But >> yeah, and you see the S S&P I mean, >> oh man, bro, it just put like a new alltime high like just a couple of days ago just put like 7.5 or something like that. Like what is going on, bro?

[00:22:16]>> Yeah. Yeah, I know. I know. 7.5. Yeah.

[00:22:19]There you go. There you go. Oh, >> so so painful to see. But uh let's come back to the Bitcoin chart real quick.

[00:22:27]>> Bottom for BTC in October. Pull chain maybe as late as January 2027. Maverick maybe. All right. Maybe. We'll see. You know, I'm actually I'm the bullish guy over here, guys. So, we'll see. We We have like a good balance of bearishness and bullishness. So let me let me lines off for a second, right? And and like okay, if I was like if I was just to show you, okay, I was just to look at the just the chart as it is. Okay, I'd say that this right here is maybe this area. Okay, >> even though it's a little bit more spread with a little bit more time by the by the looks of things. And this right here would be this.

[00:23:20]>> Oh, damn.

[00:23:21]>> Does anyone else like see that? I don't know. Maybe >> because you get like this sideways. I mean, this slightly goes up upwards, but sideways towards upwards chop, right?

[00:23:32]Smaller. You only had this for like five weeks and you had this one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight. Eight weeks. And then yeah, you have this which is pretty much identical to this.

[00:23:45]>> Hey, be careful with that. You might get some angry fans over there just jumping on me like, "Hey, what the >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:23:53]>> Because that looks scary, man. That looks scary, you know?

[00:23:57]>> That that that's how I I mean, and just taking away lines on charts and freaking the different levels and price levels and stuff like that. But that's where I was like, okay. I mean obviously it's not perfect in terms of the timing and stuff like that but you know maybe maybe the trajectory I know we you had this drop down so significant so quickly right >> um where we've it kind of extended out on this side I wouldn't be surprised if if if the drop isn't as huge you know you look at it um I mean this is a steep drop mainly I think this was in the FTX stuff, right?

[00:24:38]>> So, >> you know, f price follow the news. So there should be like even if it would drop like heavily as we started to chop down in the past few days uh we're going to have like probably some sad news man because the price is first to act like insiders and everything like hey if there are some bad news something uh it could be it could be rough for couple of maybe weeks.

[00:25:09]Well, I again like this whole every single dip or major dip here, right from from the top here um has been in my opinion [ __ ] news.

[00:25:24]Like I think one of this was like the Trump China tariff uh news which was like a >> 150% China tariff and that made the top.

[00:25:35]>> So I wouldn't be surprised. I mean, we've had like I'm I'm trying to think what what what else what news you've got war with Iran, which probably should have like dropped the price, but sometimes it pumped. Um I don't know what news could be worse than that. Like I don't I don't see like a out and out black swan news event unless you know >> Hunter virus or >> Yeah. No, even that. No, no, it should be like something big, bro. We we have like some big players in the game right now cuz I've seen like u very interesting news about like the Bitcoin holdings uh and everything like that like even uh if I'm not like wrong uh I think bina even Binance they they posted about it about the like the whole circulation supply. So they're just they didn't accumulate as much as possible the institution cuz this cycle who was buying who was buying yeah who was buying it was like mostly institution and mostly one guy >> right >> so so this is this was from Binance official account >> yeah hold 18.5% 3.88 88 million bitcoin of the circulating supply which is pretty in intense you know.

[00:27:00]>> Yeah. So >> it is it is it's quite a big uh would say accumulation but what one one fail from one of these big companies you know >> it can it it can be rough man it can be rough. We don't speak about like >> you know you're you you showed me that big red candle. So you know the news can follow like after the price has already been dropping.

[00:27:31]>> Yeah. Yeah. So so this was the thing that I was leaning into. Shout out to Trey Bra actually who's actually in the chat. Uh nice to see you.

[00:27:39]>> The goat.

[00:27:40]>> Yeah. So >> the goat of the trenches. Let's go. So he uh he was going on about a few different lines and and these moving averages, the six moving averages here.

[00:27:50]Um and so just to give people perspective, like the 377 is an interesting one, 377 EMA.

[00:28:00]Um you see the price come in towards either the 200 uh SMA and or the 377 EMA. That's typically where your bottom is. That's why I don't think it's going to hit something like 35 to 45K. I know that Mav's calling for it, but I don't know if it's going to go that far down.

[00:28:16]If if I could just go back in time.

[00:28:19]Okay. Yeah, it did break just slightly below the 377, but it wasn't a huge drop. Um, you see here, maybe an extra 16%. So, at 51K right now, another 15% down. I don't know if it'll go this far down, but maybe 43Kish uh 44K.

[00:28:42]Um, obviously this a moving average, so as it trends down, this is probably going to lower the the moving average is going to lower down. Maybe it goes down to like 45 or 47 or whatever. So what's what's your you know like price level that you're like oh my okay I'm I'm I'm starting to get low my fit in >> between between these two lines like you see the the previous cycle before that back in um 2018 and it touched here right on the 200. So, a lot of people talk about the two 200 week moving average. Um, but yeah, you can see I mean to a degree um there's not enough data here, but like you can see it's pretty much trending to the bottoms. Uh it's just like a significant line for myself. Uh so anywhere between those markers uh when you get towards obviously it broke down went below here.

[00:29:37]But as it gets into these zones, that's where I'm like, okay, you know, maybe it's time to kind of um start dipping my feet back into the market a bit more. Um the closer we get, you know, those those those markers look pretty good for me personally. Not financial advice, obviously.

[00:29:57]So, you're not you're not looking even at the chance that we might have like a a rally beginning of like June or something like that cuz I've been looking at that and I'm like cuz I'm the bullish guy, you know.

[00:30:11]I've been looking at that and like uh okay, okay, we can get like this chop like for the next like maybe one, two weeks more beginning of June, middle of June. It's always been a bullish sign for me. I have no idea, bro. It's just like feeling sentiment and stuff like that. It's just like >> here here's your basic like 50 week your 200 week and your 100 week uh moving average, right? Blue one being the 100 week uh your 50 week. And this is your usual confirmation that the the bull market's over, right? Your 50WE when it breaks down. You've probably heard this Benjamin Cohen and loads of different, you know, [ __ ] guys talking about it, right? Um, and you can see it just followed this whole market like literally from the bottom pretty much the minute that it broke above the 50we moving average, the yellow line here.

[00:31:02]Um, it just kept following and bouncing off of this line, right? And and so that's where I'm like, okay, if it's unable to support some of these lines that are really pivotal, um, I sold here back in November. The reason why I sold was because it broke down below the um below this marker here.

[00:31:26]>> Um then popped its head back up. So I'm like, okay, maybe it will recover. And this is on a weekly time frame. So you you know, you're assessing it on a weekly basis. And it went back up, hit 107, and then couldn't hold. And that's for me like that is a sign of weakness.

[00:31:45]It's gone below it, and now it's breaking below it. It's going below.

[00:31:49]it's unable to hold. You can see a massive big fat red candle went down from you know 10 it went at one point it was 108k down to like 90 as low as 9 284 844 in the same week. So to me I was just like okay this is struggling this is breaking down clearly the trajectory is then to move towards uh the next major line unless it can repair itself and break back above then I can't be bullish on on where the market's going just because it's it's not holding certain key levels right you go back to here >> you go back in in this part these sections of the bull market and you get everyone remembers this part here back in March right we had that crazy pump into the beginning of 24. Um, >> good times. Good times, man.

[00:32:37]>> Times where 75K, you know, life's good.

[00:32:40]But then there was this weird awkwardness where it's like, well, what's going on? Is that it? Is that the tops in, you know, everyone's talking about left translated cycle at this point here as well. Um, and then we just got sideways chop literally like sideways and downwards chop even going as far down as like 49K at one point on on the week. That's crazy, right? You can go up, >> you know, nearly 80K drops down. But look, look what's happening to this line. This line is being respected.

[00:33:08]These levels are being respected the whole way whole way along that line.

[00:33:13]Every time it drops down, it's popping its head back up and staying above uh this line on on the weekly. So that's where I'm like, you can go back. You can go even as far as here. It's respecting that line the whole way through. So, you know, for me, it's important. I mean for other people it might not be important to them but um that was kind of my my thinking when it comes to this kind of thing. So um let's have a look at some getting confirmations on XRP everywhere.

[00:33:40]We're going to have a look at XRP >> XRP bro is XRP army still alive. I was like >> 100% >> I think there is bunch of uh NPCs IRL NPCs and just walking around and spamming about uh XRP and stuff like that. I noticed some of them bought in XRP 5 to 500 stuff like that. It's like man Bitcoin OGs aren't going to let people get in the magic carpet right man. 60K was the bottom bro so wrong.

[00:34:13]They ain't got the money for it. I think I'm think money for it. I'm sorry, but like if you look at the Sailor Ponzi and you actually deep dive the Sailor Ponzi, it can go so much lower. I again this is like you know it just takes takes sailor start selling a little bit and he will move the price so quickly and he won't even have the liquidity to sell uh large chunks of his position. But just the fact that that he starts selling just a bit after saying never sell your Bitcoin to pay for his Ponzi dividends that he has to pay out. He's got billions and billions of dollars of dividends that he has to pay out and he just seems to backdate them all the time by raising new money and just paying them. So he just makes a new product that has a higher dividend yield to entice more money to come in but not and it was working. There was lots of uh new investors coming into the new product each time because the dividend went up from like 8% when you first 8% then the next product after that was like 9 or 10% now it's like 11 to 12% per year and where does the dividend come from? The dividend comes from Bitcoin appreciation and the dividend comes from their own um in-house uh companies that aren't even profitable. when you look at the books, their books are completely cooked. So when you look at it now and and that doesn't even the majority, I think it's like 60% or more. Don't hold me to correct numbers here, but from when I was doing my research, I think it's about 57 or 60% of the dividend yield comes from the price of Bitcoin and price price appreciation. So what happens when the price appreciation drops down? You know, so you've got to pay those dividends, right? you the whole so >> he said it he said we might have some to sell some Bitcoin so >> right you know >> preempting it man to me he's just preempting it and fact of the matter is he sells a bit there's probably guys that are going to probably want to front run that but also there's probably guys that are going to be like oh this guy's selling his Bitcoin and then that might have a little cascade event you know and the games might start happen >> could be fast could be fast.

[00:36:37]>> Yeah, it could could be fast, but that's okay. I mean, it's just like a quick flush in and a quick re repositioning.

[00:36:43]You said just then, right, institutions now have 18.5% of of Bitcoin. Um, which is pretty insane. So, you know, maybe I'm wrong. I I I personally don't think I'm wrong, but maybe I am wrong. Uh, we'll see. Yeah, we're let alone Bitcoin, we have like >> is E >> some Yeah, if if is a sad guy, man. If is sitting in the corning and watching for the past five years, you know, >> Ethereum's in the [ __ ] chair, bro.

[00:37:15]>> Yeah, Ethereum is the [ __ ] [ __ ] chair. I I would say I would say people on pool chain had way way more fun than Ethereum for the past two years because hey we we had some like you know some good news. We had like some small pumps here and there, some new projects here and there appearing trying to build uh and it has been in this range of like long accumulation, nothing new, boring stuff, some plus 50% gains. That's like bro that's not fun of people just getting bored. Uh we have world of cars.

[00:37:56]He said sold pools at 403 and now is nothing. Yeah.

[00:38:04]Yeah, man.

[00:38:06]>> Bullchain life is is rough. And we had like probably like what yesterday? Did we hit like a new alltime low yesterday?

[00:38:16]Like >> there there >> I have to move it to to make sure that your head What what what is this like?

[00:38:27]What what I'm watching?

[00:38:30]>> So So your price right now is uh 506942.

[00:38:37]>> I used to say I used to say that pool chain is front running ETH by two three weeks and it was working like that for a couple of times.

[00:38:48]But but but if pool chain is front running ETH right now, you're looking at ETH going down like like a lot, you know, 40%.

[00:38:59]>> I've got the minus 99% from alltime high.

[00:39:02]>> Um yeah, why I have it there is because >> unfortunately uh Richard's products have a reputation of going minus 99% in a bare market.

[00:39:14]That's that's >> - 90. That's >> 99%.

[00:39:18]>> 99%.

[00:39:19]>> Which is which is more. It's an extra what 90 90 plus% from when it hits 95%.

[00:39:26]Right. So >> let let me ask you this cuz you've been more in the in the pool chain I would say not trenches but you've been in the spaces. What's the overall vibe around? How are people feeling, you know, about the the sentiment that is going, >> dude? Like, I'll be I'll be honest with you. Um, just seeing everyone's just at each other. I knew it was going to happen.

[00:39:54]Like, I knew everyone was going to just go go after each other. um once things were turned south and like I saw a lot of people pivot into Provex and then they they to make matters worse I don't know if they're just kind of lowkey [ __ ] or if they like as in as in the guys that missed out because there were guys that sacrificed and if you sacrificed you would have done well and everything that was being said by some of the guys that I know who are pretty smart within the ecosystem was correct and I I I I could understand their analysis. They're looking at it, they're going, if you take richest coins away, you look at how much money's been raised. I think it was about 16 million is a very low valuation. It's actually extremely low valuation. Um, this may actually be good to put sizable amount of money in. There'll probably be a decent enough amount of liquidity to chuck in good amount and get a quick 23x.

[00:40:52]Um, some guys were like, "No, I'm not going to sell at 23x." And I was like, "Bro, don't make the same mistake because even even Pulse did a 2x, okay, when it first launched." Um, so just [ __ ] take the 2x. Don't be a [ __ ] >> Yeah, >> there is trend. Just take take your money off the table. Um, and some just didn't listen to me, which was funny, but hey, it is what it is. You live and you learn. Um because because people people actually get sold on the product and sales pitch more than the actual reality of crypto, right? And some of the realities of crypto is one of the big realities of crypto is that it's very hard to pump a chart in a bare trend as in overall >> market bare trend.

[00:41:45]>> It's like swimming against the tide against you, right? is very very difficult if you're swimming with the tide and and you're going out with the momentum of course but if you got waves coming and smashing against you and you're trying to push out it's so much more energy is so much more difficult difficult and that's how I see it >> when you have like another f four five coins that are like down 90% and like that's that's a [ __ ] you know waves you're getting the [ __ ] face hit every single time and you're trying to pump the other new shiny think when it was I believe Prox was launched in an awful timing without any you know marketing without anything like it's like okay it's live guys >> there you go >> 100% I mean the the it was like it was like a bit chubby at the end right it was just trying to capture the privacy narrative in the same way that pump tires came out during the you know you had everything that was popping popping off with pump fun and and Salana. Um you also had Tron released their own version and then I think also you had for me that came out but what was the other big one where people started rotating to there was one other network where people another another launchpad narrative. Um so you know I was just like hey it is what it is. Um you you notice that when when pump tires started like people started rotating their core bags into that. Um, so you know, trying to get pumped, they're following, chasing the the pump and and that's exactly what happened with Provex, right? And so >> yeah, I mean like like if you were in it and you positioned yourself well, I can bring up the ProveX chart because that's now Oh, >> I could see I I could have see where it fits the narrative, you know, because it doesn't really bring anything new.

[00:43:52]Uh yeah, you don't you might want to put it on like >> daily, not weekly because what bottom.

[00:44:02]Uh bro, I love pool chain community. I love pool chain guys because they are still keeping it positive even in the rough, you know, rough times.

[00:44:11]>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. To be fair, they do uh they do stay positive. You you asked, sorry, I went I diverted a little bit off topic. where what's the community doing and what's been happening like >> Yeah. Yeah.

[00:44:22]>> I can see is just like people going after each other and it's part of the reason why I kind of just stepped back uh over the last few months. I remember >> I remember originally like you know this kind of happens on every chain. Uh you're seeing it also in Cardano. You're seeing it in other other chains as well Salana to a degree. Like everyone just starts going just going after each other and just like it's just a bare market thing. There's no real positive outcome during the um during during the bearish trends because everyone just I don't know what it is. Like everyone calls each other scammer. Everyone just goes after each other. You know, I had a freaking lawsuit myself that I've had to send out. Um, so it's it's just like it's just what's the point, you know, the reward of being in there. And it's shout out to the guys that are able to consistently the reward. It's just such >> Yeah. Insane. Insane, man. They're still like, >> dude, if it's if if it's the trenches, right? Like you've just lost all your brothers have just been like absolutely destroyed by there's only a few of you left. I guess >> but it it is it's like the same like 50 60 guys that are you know still in the trenches and like okay let's make some fun out of it cuz there is nothing like left except like making some fun out of everything that's left >> you know yeah I can laugh about it I can have a joke about it and it's not not an issue um so got hex hex a Hold on, let me just come back. BTC is lame. Everyone rotating into large caps and small caps.

[00:46:07]I mean, yeah, but it did well. It did well this cycle, so I can't I can't cry about it too much. I mean, Bitcoin Bitcoin's Bitcoin, man. I, you know, I I don't hate on it. Um, is what it is. I I there's a kind of reputation within specifically the pulching community of like [ __ ] on Bitcoin and it's like well look at Bitcoin versus your chart, bro. It did way better. So >> yeah, I can't I got to hold my hands up like Yeah, you're right. Um hopefully we're at the turnaround. Uh seems like >> this time last time basically everyone was destroyed not paying attention.

[00:46:50]Hopefully the Clarity Act green candles.

[00:46:55]>> Yeah, >> Clarity Act didn't bring anything actually to the table yet. No, >> we don't see. Yeah, it was priced in way before that and it basically worked in favor of stocks and uh and that part of the area, you know, and not anything related to to crypto.

[00:47:15]So maybe maybe it's something brewing behind that we don't see yet but didn't really had any positive effects >> when bottom I I think Q4 of this year I think Q3 Q4 of this year yeah that's that's my personal opinion but I could be wrong. Um who knows keep buying the dip within the dip within the dip. Yeah, I I I'm not that kind of guy. Like I I I I'm not I'm more like because I did that, right? One of the biggest things that I did wrong in 22 was buy too early.

[00:47:51]>> Um when I s capital and then just bought in the end part of 2022, you know, I bought in the first quarter of 22, I think it was. And uh if we're looking at like the Ethereum price, you know, I could have got so many more units for so so much little capital at that point, you know. So it's like buying too early in a bare market for me is not amazing.

[00:48:18]I mean, if you're comfortable dcaing them in and you're like you've got specific amounts, you can why not? But if you got lump sums that you're putting in, yeah, nothing has done much and with the macro, who would expect much really?

[00:48:32]I think at some point it's got to go because the institutions are in and will eventually let in. Yeah. Yeah. I I do think that there there will be some price appreciation. Um the next the next thing is really like what what goes this cycle, you know, like is it really going to be Salana? I don't think is going to do what it did last cycle, right? Because it went down so low to nine bucks and then went up to like 300 bucks basically. So, what's the next big thing? What's the next um narrative? Is it going to be something like uh Zcash or is it going to be Hyperlquid or is it going to be a new chain? Is it going to be B&B? Again, B&B seems to just consistently do well. You got something like Tron that's just consistently always go I mean Tron's chart I don't know if you've seen Tron's chart.

[00:49:22]>> Hey I've seen Tron's chart I'm impro I'm impressed with like Tron and everything cuz like they have a huge amount of stables and they're like one of the primary uh where people use the big funds you know exchange transfers and everything. So uh they had good amount of liquidity and uh speaking of that that's why I loved you know that the idea that we build like trench capital and uh we just get in to experience the whole crypto like to get this new narrative to speak about the new things that comes up to speak about the AI robotics uh energy there is gonna be like so many things I know Tron man uh I know I know he's quickly.

[00:50:10]>> He He's been in the trenches as well. Uh Justin Sun, he's been like in the trenches fighting for his own people all like his coins and he's been Yeah. He's been proving that his product is working and the chart is showing that. Uh the other thing that you you said like what's the next what's the next thing you know?

[00:50:32]>> Yeah. I'm paying because I was one of the few guys out like from the pool chain community that I was spamming about sui at around like zero >> 40 cents 44 about that area and the people that were close to me they knew about that and it like had an insane Yeah. Yeah. They they know that it had an insane like the everything the structure how the blockchain works the grayscale institution buying in early and pushing it you know with huge marketing right now I'm like really looking at ton as one of like undervalued things I haven't stepped haven't bought any but tone is one thing that I'm going to look cuz Hey, everyone is using telegram and the way that they integrate their product they took over you know >> like what couple of weeks ago over their foundation >> right >> uh so uh I'm looking at uh at this big bad boy like maybe you know >> if Bitcoin goes to alltime low I'm gonna look like smaller market cap just get my position I mean, uh, cuz it can be huge.

[00:51:57]It can be huge, man.

[00:51:59]>> You're you're saying Ton here, right?

[00:52:02]>> Yeah. Yeah.

[00:52:03]>> Right.

[00:52:03]>> I I I really like what I'm seeing about Ton and how they're moving, right? So, you don't have to guess like, oh, I want to buy now and get a 10x in in the next like few weeks. You're looking like probably like in two three years maybe >> something like that like like you look in the future like at the next peak of uh uh al season if there is any alt season but >> okay that's an that's a good question right it's like did did we have a old season >> uh in my opinion a lot of people will get angry and they're angry. But we did had an alt season cuz meme meme coins were the alt season, right? Memecoins were we had like so many coins go from zero to billions. Memecoins were the alt season and you have then the Zcash, you have Hype, you had Solana, you had like Suie there. There was an old season, but it was like the dilution of everything was so big that you literally had to be specific on where the out season was.

[00:53:22]>> Right.

[00:53:22]>> Right. Yeah. So, uh I do believe we did had but it was like long time ago like maybe one year ago.

[00:53:31]>> Right. And uh we still have hype in Zcash and that those privacy coins that are hugely backed by uh big guys who are pushing it and are still doing very good even in those market conditions. So yeah, I do believe we did have >> uh what car saying I don't want to buy the bottom and guess to buy in the bullish trend even if I miss um the first move. Yeah, that's fair. Yeah, that can work. Uh if it goes lower, you wish get Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly.

[00:54:08]If it goes even lower. Yeah. Yeah. DCA, you know, DCA you average entry is going to be low. Two more weeks low.

[00:54:16]>> Two more weeks, bro. I I didn't get this. Maybe two more weeks. Two more weeks at the beginning.

[00:54:24]But after being two more weeks, two more weeks, you know, it starts to to get in your head. Two more weeks.

[00:54:31]>> Two more weeks. Just a little DCA. Yeah, that's fair. Um, do you believe and do real question is do you believe that Ethereum will host RWA tokenized assets? I do, but I don't know if it's just like a bit of a hype event really like personally. I do I I I do see a lot of tokenization of stocks right now and I do think that that should be in included um on the on chain the ability to be able to buy tokenized stocks.

[00:55:03]uh you know like a lot of people wanted to buy in on token.

[00:55:07]>> You saw the need for it more when everything all the tech stocks started booming this cycle right at the end and you know like cryptos in in the dirt just after gold did its you know pico top >> u definitely like people were like oh I want to buy some stock now you know I want to buy this stock or that stock or whatever. So yeah, I can see them needing to uh need to do it on the blockchain. If so, how could anyone give up on PulseChain? Ethereum and Pulsechain could be peanut butter and jelly. Uh yeah, the real question is like the future of Ethereum, right? Like I mean it seems like a very stable rangy crypto.

[00:55:49]You know, you look at the the price chart here. Uh it just seems to be in this channel between 1 to 5k.

[00:55:56]Uh so we're we're really >> It's so ugly, man. So ugly.

[00:56:01]>> I mean, there's a lot of money. If you're an LP, it's amazing. But >> yeah, >> for everyone else, it's kind of kind of sucks a little bit. Uh especially if you bought the top at 4.7K and you're now down to 2K. Uh that that could suck.

[00:56:19]Or even if you bought a 3.7 with like 600 how much? 650 millions or 600 millions not 4.7. Yeah.

[00:56:28]>> Yeah.

[00:56:30]>> Yeah. You >> just how like well as Richie said for pool chain uh I don't even see because there has not been any change in in the vibe. So the only thing that has to change it's not even about the price but the vibe the vibe itself you know cuz what's the turning point you know what's the turning point that you say okay I'm bullish [ __ ] is it going up or >> yeah it is >> it's as simple as that going up >> or is the vibe just you know you change the pos you don't call like uh stupid your community and stuff like bad.

[00:57:16]>> Uh, no. I I I think uh I think it goes it goes back to like yeah, Ethereum has to go up and then the price of the the C assets could go up, you know. I see.

[00:57:29]>> Even if it's just anticipation, there's no like capital rotation from the founder. Uh, but like every every ecosystem, I've said this before, but to be honest with you, every single ecosystem founder pumps their chart.

[00:57:44]Every single one.

[00:57:46]>> Every single one.

[00:57:46]>> Y, >> the only difference where Richard fails at is that he doesn't have any products that actually generate him revenue that then can automatically go into the chart.

[00:57:59]>> Whoa, whoa, whoa. I would argue with you over here. Okay, go on then.

[00:58:03]>> It does help >> what what taking money from the community through through >> sacrifice.

[00:58:09]>> But that's like No, I'm saying continuous revenue, right? Like like B&B has Binance.

[00:58:15]>> You got Hyperlquid now um generates from the buybacks basically from from the transactions that happen on their per >> stacks. M >> um Justin Sun as well. Um he buys back his chart and um he's usually in other tokens. There's also trading activity on Tron. But yeah, I I look at it like kind of like that. There's some sort of exchange or per perpetuals deck uh DEX or CEX that's that's producing some sort of income stream, >> right?

[00:58:51]>> Yeah. Yeah. So that's that's the major problem. I think that that's the biggest problem is that he's relying on his own community base rather than something that is able to hit the masses outside of his own community base, right? Unless he does the sacrifice and even then, you know, 90 plus% of it's going to come from his own community rather than like outside of his little bubble. So that's that's where I'm okay. So, as much as you hate per dexes or um per in general, it generates money. It generates revenue and that revenue can then be shoved into your own chart and can bring bring you >> Hyperlid is like the real, you know, proof of that. So, yeah. Yeah.

[00:59:38]>> Yeah. Pure example of this. Someone said, "Call me crazy. I like Richard's products." Yeah. I don't mind Richard products. I'm not saying that. I don't like him. I just would like that he has some sort of income stream that comes from something else. I mean, I called for like a purpose when the perexes came out, right? A came out, Hyperlquid.

[00:59:58]Dude, the UIs are terrible. I don't know if you've used them. The UIs are horrendous. So, it's like >> I I've seen it's it was so bad.

[01:00:08]>> Yeah, I used Aster. I thought it was trash. So like you you can you can like make something pretty decent here. Um I think that if you go down the kind of FTX had a really cool UI and also like if you go on something like Jupiter and you do per on there it's like really easy to use really nice UI as well. It's something like that as a perexit there's your there's your income stream there's where the money is. You know what? You know what? There is I I do have I don't want to leak anything, but I do have some inside information that something like that might cap up to on Pulsechain really soon.

[01:00:50]>> Okay, interesting.

[01:00:51]>> Yeah, there is a product that is there keep building on Pulsechain and something like that may appear. You know, you want a long, you want a short, you want like >> Yeah, it's gonna be Hey, >> who Who could that be?

[01:01:08]>> Yeah, we we'll take sponsorship from you guys as well. If you want to sponsor, uh we could definitely talk about your product. U just FYI. Clip that. Send it to >> NFA.

[01:01:18]>> Yeah, >> we'll definitely definitely help you out. Tom Lee live. Yeah, Tom Lee. Tom Lee was desperate for exit. No, he's he's going to hold his position for a long time, I think. But, you know, like I'm certainly I'm sure that he's sweating buckets. Dude, every time I see him, he looks more and more tired and he looks more and more like worn out. I don't know if you see >> how much how much is he underwater, though. I haven't even seen like his position.

[01:01:46]>> He was right.

[01:01:48]>> He He was like deep in, you know, like he's gonna flip Bitcoin to 600K. 60K, bro. Imagine. Okay. in a reality where like ETH is gonna perform like Nvidia stocks or like or Sundisk or like you know S&P 500.

[01:02:12]Yeah, maybe it can go to 20K and Bullchain gonna follow with a nice >> let me find it a tracker. There was a tracker uh is it Tomy tracker?

[01:02:30]Uh >> Tomy lied.

[01:02:33]Yeah, man. You know who else lied on Bullchain? Well, I mean not actually, but we have like one of the biggest old OG's uh on boarding website, GoPools. They're like they're actually shutting down after like what 3 years. They're shutting down in like >> I got confused.

[01:02:55]>> I thought that was Pulsefolio.

[01:02:58]>> Oh, >> did you?

[01:03:02]>> Yeah. Yeah. So I was like, "Oh, we're cooked." You know, then I realized I was Go Post. They did um they did a sack for about 600k, didn't they? Something like that.

[01:03:14]>> Yeah. Yeah. after using like bro they did a lot more than that with the fees they had. So >> the site was just >> Yeah. Yeah. It had crazy like 2.5%.

[01:03:26]>> Crazy crazy crazy fees. Yeah.

[01:03:28]>> On on swap transactions.

[01:03:30]>> Yeah. It wasn't it wasn't even showing you know in the in the change where they had the swap.

[01:03:38]But uh anyway, yeah, it's going down.

[01:03:41]And uh you mentioned the PLS Holio.

[01:03:44]Yeah, shout out to them cuz uh they changed a lot when we lost the bank. So PLS Folio.

[01:03:52]>> Yeah, they're keep delivering. So that's great.

[01:03:56]>> Let's have a look at the uh Yeah. So Bit mine, they got 4.6 6 million EH uh valued at 10 uh 10 billion.

[01:04:09]They've got yeah 1.2 billion um cash and they've got 3.8% of the supply.

[01:04:20]>> How how much are they underwater? Uh I can find out exactly, >> bro. That's that's impressive. I mean they, you know, in one way that's kind of good because those guys have the uh the minds and the brain to know how to push and how to market it correctly cuz if if foundation vital like those guys like some they're just either selling either focusing okay we are the tech guys right they're not Yeah. Okay.

[01:05:00]Just just a small what's that like 8 billion?

[01:05:04]>> 8.1 billion.

[01:05:06]>> 8.1 billion, bro. Just a small eight.

[01:05:09]But yeah, that's that's nothing like on 2x he'll be like plus, you know.

[01:05:15]>> So there you go.

[01:05:16]>> There you go. There you go.

[01:05:19]>> So their 2x they would need um you know six 7.6k.

[01:05:28]He he was uh he was calling like in the beginning for 12 20k and then he went with some crazy price prediction like 60k in the future of >> Yeah. Uh yeah, you know that's good for pool chain users. That's very good.

[01:05:49]>> It goes to those prices man.

[01:05:52]Let's pray the bikes follow at least like half of that you know.

[01:05:56]>> So this is the I think this is one of the websites. Uh I don't know if it's the official website but scenario simulator straight away the youth targets 22k.

[01:06:06]>> 22k is that the what? Yeah, it's based off of the dividend, right? Base nav and stuff like that. So like scenario simulator 20 like I've not put this in.

[01:06:18]This is already like when you load up the website it's got like okay the target is $22,000 Ethereum. Let's [ __ ] go.

[01:06:26]>> That would be Yeah, that would be nuts, bro. I I would probably be buying NFTs left and right if we have those prices.

[01:06:34]Like look at I mean >> so okay their their discounts premium that's not too bad. Uh MNAV's 0.88.

[01:06:45]Uh so they still got a million. It's crazy to say that they've got already 3.62% of the supply um because they're trying to get 5% of the supply. That was their target rate. Um so wow. Who's going to buy 5% of supply on my bags, bro?

[01:07:08]>> I mean, yeah, they're not far off of Richard's entry price, 3.7. So, you know, like um GG's >> very solid.

[01:07:18]>> And they they they have actually got so they got 3 million. So, they got 70% of their holdings making staking yield at 2.81%.

[01:07:28]So they're actually making about 100 million a year just from staking.

[01:07:35]It's pretty good.

[01:07:36]>> Yeah. Yeah. Impressive. Impressive numbers actually.

[01:07:40]>> So the Yeah. Yeah. I mean like 70% of the supply is already in in yield.

[01:07:47]Not bad. Not too bad. I mean 2% is pretty low in terms of yield, but yeah, it's better than nothing, I guess.

[01:07:57]Still a lot of this money.

[01:08:00]>> Yeah, man.

[01:08:01]>> I mean, for the billions, for the billions they bought, that's like nothing. So, >> yeah, 100%.

[01:08:09]I mean, they bought 8.8. They're like, "No, no. How much? That's the holdings right now." I So, their average entry price 38. Does it actually say where the price average price was? how much they bought in it.

[01:08:28]I you could kind of manually work it out by just taking that number and then times in by the amount of Ethereum that they have.

[01:08:37]Yeah.

[01:08:39]>> Yeah. I hope Richie does uh see this stream and he takes the 16 million and just go this game or if you know it's two 2K it's way way cheaper than 3.7 >> even he Yeah 1k >> 1k oh man if I would say like we get 1k if man I'm just like going all in >> when that's like you know the dream scenario people there are a lot I know there are a lot of people sideline like there are probably like 60% of the people I know they're still no capital like capital on the sidelines and I like okay you know I don't see why I should be in crypto right now because there is nothing interesting it's like some you have like some scams here and there are some projects just popping out. You know, there is not really something interesting that uh you're excited to be in this uh space, but uh hope hope that vibes change soon enough.

[01:09:53]>> Well, we'll see. We'll see. Let's let's get I mean, we're going to be live uh probably so tomorrow and then I think back on next week. So, we're doing kind of Monday to kind of Monday to Friday. So, we'll see. We'll see how the markets will do. I will still be here. We'll still be uh trenching >> I Yeah, I'm more excited. So, we got like kind of the introduction boring stuff. We got like some eighth BTC. We got some like overall crypto vibe. But >> talk about like like [ __ ] [ __ ] >> [ __ ] Hey, interesting stuff. There will be like a lot of a lot of streams. We'll bring a lot of like uh fresh trenches.

[01:10:43]We'll bring maybe some founders from Paul's chain will uh we'll have a lot of builders, >> guys on on I know you know a few guys on base at the moment, guys from Binance.

[01:10:56]So, I I'll try and get a few few different heads in. We can have a little chat with them. But yeah, you know, just keep keeping things flowing and then have a look, you know, like have a look at some [ __ ] coins, man. Like that's that's Oh, people people are looking for some some good play. We've got um a Telegram group, right? And um I think that everyone should join in because we're going to be building up this Telegram group. It's free. You just join in to the Telegram group. And I'm just going to quickly um put it in on here.

[01:11:29]Telegram. Yeah, we can drop it in the chat and we'll probably drop it under the live stream on X as well which is uh easier.

[01:11:39]>> Yeah. What is it? t.me uh >> yeah it's French capital launch just uh you know and easy place where you can tag ask anything questions even can post about your project if it's something you know interesting. So uh we can have a look over that. But uh speaking of that, we'll have also like uh what is really trench capital guys?

[01:12:06]It's something it's like not even product but like a I would say a cool feature for founders uh builders and people that want to get more outreach. So we're going to build that that whole thing in an like web three consulting agency. So, you know, it's it's an exciting thing. We got streams, we'll get interviews, we'll get like a lot of uh bigger guys in here to share their knowledge. Uh yeah. So, uh make sure join in the telegram. Did you drop that?

[01:12:46]>> Yeah.

[01:12:47]>> Okay. Awesome.

[01:12:48]>> Yeah. So, so right at the bottom here, you can see t.metrench capital lounge and uh yeah, jump in guys. This is something that we're going to probably promote and put out and go from there really. And um yeah, looking forward to the next one. And then tomorrow, what do you want to talk about, bro? Any any subjects that we do want to touch on tomorrow or should we keep it?

[01:13:11]>> Yeah, I believe I believe tomorrow we'll touch like uh how pool chain is again at a new alltime low. We have probably BTC dropping to like 72K, you know.

[01:13:24]Uh we generally on bass, right? Bass been popping off pretty >> bass. Bass. Bass. Yeah, we we can speak about the bass. I have a lot of things to to say about bass because it's been the place to be for the past couple of weeks. So, uh there there is a lot a lot of things to to go on slowly, you know, pick up, get back into into the trenches.

[01:13:49]>> Sounds good. Well, appreciate all you guys. Do us a favor before leaving. Give us a like on there, you know, share the video as well and um join the Telegram group. Like I said, t.metrench capital lounge. Also in the description, you've got a bunch of different stuff. You can go follow my X and you can follow Alpha Ballers X. You can follow the channels, our YouTube channels, respectively as well. Um links are down there as well.

[01:14:13]There's also a nice little And I need to get your affiliate link as well. Uh there's an affiliate link for a pretty cool crypto card that we're using. we're both using. So, I I need to grab your >> but but >> yeah, >> why not sign up with my link um whilst it's there in the description. So, yeah, you can actually just purchase whatever you want your day-to-day stuff with USDC. So, you don't have to uh you know, switch your your crypto into >> How great is that, man?

[01:14:43]>> Yeah, it's amazing, bro. It's actually super super sick. That's um ether. MGC affiliate link.

[01:14:50]>> There you go. There you go. there. I I'm actually in contact with those guys. So, uh we may we may cook something, you know, greater in the future.

[01:14:59]>> Sounds good, man. If if it's it's it's sick, man. You just been using it the other the other day. Awesome.

[01:15:08]>> Simple >> to buy buy this freaking streaming service for and get some cash back on that, which was pretty sick. So, right guys, appreciate you. Um, we'll be around and I'm going to try and load up some more memes and and we'll make a pretty decent intro video in the next few days. But bear with us. I hope you're having a good day. Is that KYC?

[01:15:29]Yes, there's a bit of KYC.

[01:15:34]>> Yeah, >> crypto crypto guys know how how this thing works, you know. So, you can you can say yes and no.

[01:15:42]>> You can get round bit.

[01:15:44]>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, uh, did you get did you get the vaccine? Yeah, I did.

[01:15:50]>> Yeah. Yeah.

[01:15:53]>> Right.

[01:15:54]>> Speak to you soon, guys. Take out.