This debate exposes the growing rift between lineage-based identity politics and the traditional Pan-African ideal of global solidarity. It reveals how the pursuit of specific historical accountability can inadvertently foster a divisive tribalism that weakens collective political leverage.
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Tariq Nasheed Debates Zambian Man Over Who's Really DivisiveAjouté :
Edward. Mr. Edward.
>> Hey, what's up, T? By the way, I'm good.
I'm good. Have you said uh happy Mother's Day to your mom?
>> Happy day to your mother as well, sir.
>> Oh, good. Okay. So, then we are going to have this um argument in good.
>> Okay. Argument. Okay. And by the way, Edward, remind me because we spoke before, right?
>> I know we've spoke multiple times. By the way, >> you're from where again? Refresh memory.
>> Uh I was born in Zambia, but I'm American.
>> You were born in Zambia. How long you been over here?
>> A long time.
>> Okay. Well, >> just a long time. Like, just know like I've been here since I went to college.
>> What tribe in Zambia are you from?
>> Uh, Got it. Got it. Got it. Okay.
>> All right. By the way, how was your time in Ghana?
>> How was it? Did you enjoy >> Ghana? I went to Sagal.
>> Oh, my bad.
>> How was it? It was cool. I had a great time. Every time I go places on vacation, I have a good time. That's good to know. Go ahead.
>> All right. Anyway, um with the platform that you've got like and the people that follow you like um why don't you use that power instead of like dividing >> divide?
Yeah.
>> If something has to be together to be divided. What's together that was divided by me?
>> Uh black people.
like black people just like anytime like if you and me were walking past each other on the street we were together like I just would know and you knew what >> an African immigrant you mean the one >> No no no no it doesn't matter >> you mean the ones who used to pass us up in taxis was that together when we would be freezing in New York and DC waiting on a damn taxi and y'all tethers wouldn't pick us up that that togetherness tell me more tell me Tell me more. Tell me more.
Go ahead, Edward. Tell me about this togetherness that Yeah. I I remember standing in the freezing cold every time I close cuz y'all wouldn't pick us up.
It's >> D. I I don't know about the situation in New York, but >> nothing. That's everything we do. Y'all know every nook and cranny of what we do, but you ne all the little [ __ ] y'all do. Y'all don't know nothing. You don't know what an aata is. Aata? I never heard of that before. What is a You don't know nothing. Y'all know y'all get when when it comes to y'all doing little slick [ __ ] y'all become see no evil, hear no evil. You don't see or hear nothing. All right.
>> Okay, I give you that. Okay, maybe some [ __ ] have been doing that [ __ ] >> Like it's not everyone.
>> I didn't even know that. Like when I was in Zambia, when I was like in high school, to me, black people were like like I was like, man, I'm going to go to the States. I'm going to roll with my black people. DMX, Tupac, whatever, blah blah blah. Like, uh, the people, right?
And then I show up here and then I'm here in FBA and I'm like, what the [ __ ] What's happening? Why are my brothers against me? So, like, >> nobody's nobody's >> the the FBA.
>> The FBA's aren't against you. Your ass is over here because of foundational black Americans. How you think?
>> Oh, true, true. I mean, obviously, Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, they fought every black Yeah. They fought for our freedoms everywhere.
>> American sir, get it right.
Nobody's against you.
>> Okay. But >> nobody's doing it.
>> You've got a platform. Why don't you use it to unite black people? Like people will follow you. I'll follow you. But right now, you are divided.
>> How? Okay. You haven't said what we got to be. You got to have something together in order for it to be divided.
>> Okay. Uh, your point is, uh, black Americans have to get reparations, right? I agree. Not for me. Not for me.
For black Americans.
>> Hold on. That's not my one point. I want us to get reparations. And I want a whole bunch of [ __ ] But that that really has nothing to do with lineage.
Your lineage is your lineage no matter what. I want you to understand something. No matter if we get reparations or not, or if we fight for reparations or not, our lineage is still foundational to this country. We come from a different ethnic group. We come from a different lineage. No matter what your political views are. Do you understand that?
Go ahead. Ed.
Wait. You have to unmute me. Wait. Muted me. Okay. Yeah, I do understand that and I want that for you. Like 100%. Yes. if you want to do that delineation thing, but don't do that and then divide and conquer uh like black people. That's why you have a white man in Florida uh DC and Byron donut, which I don't support Byron, but like you you giving permission to a white man to call a black man a tether with impunity. Like that's it was funny though. I laughed but still it's because of your situation where you are dividing us up. which is messed up.
>> Keep saying I'm saying you're projecting, sir.
>> No, I'm not projecting. I'm saying bring us together. We'll follow you.
>> Like if you if you want to build up what you are saying, bring us together.
>> Bring us together. How? You don't you fled.
>> You can even say the the FBS and the tethers that working together. Whatever.
You can still call us tethers if you want, but just bring us together. I'm just saying. Then >> sir, you're not together in your own homeland.
>> No, I'm in America. I'm American. So I'm here.
>> How could somebody who came from a homeland of tribalism where you're not even together over there tell us that we need to be together? We're together as foundational black. That's 49 million foundational black Americans and we're on the same page with each other for the most part. We're not tribal.
So we we show you what togetherness is.
We live togetherness. We don't Bible beefs and [ __ ] like that.
You understand that?
>> I I I I hope so and I wish so. But what I see is division. If you say you are together, then >> you don't see >> Okay, I'm not even going to say that.
>> You don't see division. You see accountability. You don't get to come over here and do little janky [ __ ] lie, scam, undermine, and then get not get called out. See, that's the thing.
Division to y'all means, okay, don't call us out specifically as an an outside ethnic group.
>> If you're calling about the Somalian >> No, division to you guys means don't call us out for our ethnicity when we do janky [ __ ] That's what division means, dude. The minute y'all win, you are the first to let folks know you ain't us.
All right. Y'all were doing >> No, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dude, if y'all go get a degree, if you get a damn scholarship, if you win an award, you pull a flag out your ass to let everybody know you're different and you divide yourselves from us, sir.
I don't want to hear that. Y'all were the ones doing that, right?
>> Okay. Okay. Okay. But that's what I'm saying.
>> Oh lord. Let me get Dan. I'm getting tether fatigue. Dan. Dan, please. Let me get Dan the Godamn.
>> Yo, what's good, Flex? How you doing, bro?
>> Dan, can you deal with him for a minute?
Dan, I'm I'm the >> do Edward so full of it.
>> Yeah.
>> Wait, wait. Do you even know me, Daniel?
>> Yes. I got you blocked for a reason, right?
>> Oh, so he's so full of it.
>> I think the head anytime we talk about what they've done, then all of a sudden it's division. At the end of the day, they should be eternally grateful for the sacrifices foundational black Americans made. I'm grateful. Yes, I am grateful. I'm telling you. 1965, they weren't letting y'all in the country like that. It was foundational black Americans in >> Yes. Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, every freedom fighter. Like, yes.
>> That alone is the only reason why you able to get over here. See, they 100% agree with that.
>> Sitting there thinking to themselves, damn, if I can just get next to these foundational black Americans, my life will change. And then they get next to us and like you said, the moment they get a win, the first thing they want to do is let everybody know that I would never do that. I would never do that about it. I would never betray my people us not liking them and delineating for them or whatever they called it because the word aata, yank, jer, and whatever other adjective they got for foundational black American culture from theirs to ours, right, has existed for well over 40 plus years. The term tether is under 10 years old. I guarantee that.
See, they don't really care that we are delineated. They care that they precious white men are saying the same [ __ ] that we're saying. See, that's what really pissed them off.
>> Okay. So, what about Baron Don being a tether by white men? Do you agree with that? Do you agree with that? everybody because we told them a while ago on these spaces that hey listen they think it's just a game but they precious white folks that they love so much are going to start taking a step back when they see that foundational black Americans ain't rocking with them no more and you know what that's exactly what they did Nick Fuentes came out and said hey man I want to be able to have my own form of discrimination towards black Americans without having to have a buffer class that's the same sentiment most of these white men shared and that's exactly what they executed so When James Fishbach referred to Byron Donald's at Tether in the correct context, that really put them on alert. It wasn't just him. It was the rest of the uh foreigners were really upset about that. Not that not that it was um being said, it's who was saying it. They didn't care.
>> And white man, you your lady said they're here to stay. They didn't care about us. But what they failed to realize was once foundational black Americans refused to support them standing around disrespecting us that the YT man they love so much was going to take the same steps. Donald Trump told people he wanted 200 denaturalization cases per month. That's what they doing right now. So they focused on us getting all this unit that need to be focused on making sure they're not saying nothing that could be used against them in a denaturalization case that's going to come into a courtroom near them. And remember who appointed the most federal judges out of any president in the history of United States? It was Donald J. Trump. So just be careful while y'all focus on us and this false sense of unity that y'all really don't care about. All that [ __ ] is performative. Meanwhile, these YT men that y'all love so much are forming a ultimate trump card against y'all. They want y'all gone.
>> Mhm.
>> Okay. Anyway, Daniel, Daniel, Daniel, like you are into blockchain and stuff.
Why did you block me by the way? Because you have got all those talking points and whatever. Like what did I do? I don't even know you, but you know me apparently.
>> Bro, you should be in all the spaces talking about this baby daddy [ __ ] You know what you did, Edward.
>> Okay. What? Baby daddy [ __ ] Whatever.
You are lying. So, >> all right. Cool. Cool. So, so you telling me that you didn't care anything about this cuz you even said so on this stage just now.
>> I don't know you. I don't know you. So, on this stage, keep it that way. On this stage, you just said that you uh um thought it was funny when he called Byron Don a teller. Then >> he funny. I laugh because Baron >> now now it's next. So if it's funny, why we got to tell him to stop?
>> But it's you allow the white man to say with impunity.
>> Why can't it be funny? What happened?
When did it stop being funny?
>> It was funny, but I was conflicted.
>> No. When did it stop being funny?
>> The white man was doing it, but it was funny.
>> So when did it stop being funny? So is it still funny or like can we laugh or what? What's >> Oh, it's no longer funny. I don't find it funny anymore.
>> You don't find it funny anymore? Okay.
Wow. That's interesting. Why? Why don't you find it funny anymore?
>> Because the white man is now calling a black man take that.
>> No, no, no. The white man called a Jamaican immigrant who was trying to attach himself to slavery who also made the statement that he don't think foundational black Americans uh he said he think they deserve reparations, but he wouldn't vote for now. You see, you're calling one of your people a black man like >> you're calling him a tethered. You see how dividing are >> he said himself himself he don't think we should get reparations because his mom was >> No he's a I polit but like you're still dividing that's what I'm saying.
All right Lord. Okay. All right. Who Who the hell is this? Okay. All right. Thank you so much, brother Dan. Let me let me Okay. We gonna Shout out to Dan. I don't know. Okay. Let's wrap some of this stuff up. Okay. Edward, any last words?
And >> um thank you Tariq and uh brother like like I still rock with you like you can still bring us together. Stop dividing us.
>> Nobody >> like your people follow you. Nobody >> bring us together. Youiding that's you projecting sir. Us delineating isn't equivalent to dividing. It's about >> No, you can still have your thing.
>> Don't talk over me. Delineating is all about just respecting our lineage.
That's it.
We can still do business. Again, I was over in Africa, had a great time. I'm not divided. I go to Africa and have a good ass time. I don't eat the bush meat, but I have a great time. That's not divisive.
You just can't cosplay as us. All right?
You can't hide your pepperc corn and and try to pretend to be us, sir. You understand? You just can't do that. And that's not divisive. That's called being accountable. Be who you are. Be a Bimber tribe member. All right. Go out there and get you some. Thank you for remembering my tribe. Bimba, >> you speak.
>> But uh nice nice talking to you.
>> Chima language.
>> Uh I I grew I I was born speaking English because of the British. But yes, I speak from home language. All right. Godamn.
All right. Get your ass out of here telling us you ain't got [ __ ] to do with your homeland. He don't He don't even know the Chabima language no more. Hey.
Hey, well, we all you divisive. You didn't divided yourself from your whole culture. Uh I I speak I'm I'm a I'm a FBA honorary. No, no, no, you're not.
That's what they they That's what it is.
They want to get rid of their culture and be honorary FBAs. And this delineation is tearing that ass up.
That's what that's about. They don't give a [ __ ] about their culture.
They run from that culture. They act like that [ __ ] don't even exist. Just like that other tether called up. Where your family from? I'm American now, dude. Just like you. No, you ain't like me. No, you're not.
These folks hate that we are foundational to this nation, family.
That's a lot of anger and jealousy coming with that. Because we're good. We ain't got to walk on eggshells. We can tell people to kiss our black ass. We ain't going nowhere. There's a certain confidence and freedom that comes with that that these folks are not used to.
Ladies and gentlemen, let's be real. The Hive, what's up? The Hive.
The Hive, what's up?
>> Hey, how's it going, man? Um, I appreciate you letting me chat. Um, I just had a question for you, host. Um, you know, I like the title, Chud the Builder. I think he's just like a disgrace to the human race, to be honest. Um, and you know, I've been following social media and I guess you know there's this streamer Trev who has like a really controversial coin. Um, so I guess you know like Chud was going to pull a gun on him and like this streamer stole his hat. Um, I just wanted to get your thoughts, you know, I mean to, uh, listeners to learn what do you think about, you know, just this whole situation. Um, even, you know, like Trev and his coin and, uh, um, you know, as far as, you know, being in the black community, um, how do you view this type of behavior?
>> Yeah. Yeah, we talked about it. Yeah, we we talked about it earlier. So, let's because I don't want to repeat the same thing I've been talking about um, because I've been on for a couple hours.
So, just when you hear the playback, you'll hear my commentary on that. Let's get Tank.
>> Hello, sir. Trig.
>> Hey, what's up, Tank?
>> How you doing, man? Um, uh, I hear a lot about you. This is my first time ever being into one of these type of spaces.
>> Okay, >> slow down. Where you from?
>> Um, I'm from here from America.
>> Where's your family from? Where's your Cuz I hear accent. I hear like >> Yeah. Uh my um my my pops, he's from Nigeria.
>> Okay.
>> My mom um from the same place as well.
>> Okay. Um so what tribe are you from in Nigeria? Your family?
>> Uh I believe it's the Ebo tribe. Yes.
>> How long have been y'all been How long has your family been here?
>> Um they've been here. So I know my father served in the army.
>> Okay.
>> So So they've been here for quite a while. So, uh, I think since 20 plus years now.
>> Oh, okay. From Nigeria.
>> Yes, sir.
>> Do you know any Nigerian words?
>> Uh, a couple.
>> Okay. How do you say hello in Ebo?
>> In Ebo?
>> Yeah.
>> Well, I don't know how to say hello, but I do know how to say come. I know I do know how to say uh water and like other like basic like, you know what I mean?
>> A word for water? Ineri.
>> Ini. Okay.
>> Yeah.
>> So, did you have to float on some ineri to get over here to get >> uh not really sir?
>> Did you have to get a trans hair transplant to be have your FBA hairline?
You know.
>> Oh, no. No, no, no, no, no, no. You You got to you got to be born with an FBA hairline.
>> Uh, but I saw a picture of you. You got to get a transplant, didn't you?
>> Oh, not me. A transplant.
>> Uh-huh. Hair transplant. You went to Turkey, right?
>> Projection, sir.
>> Sure. Sure.
>> Feathers think hairlines are magical when they ain't pushed back with pepperc corn like yours, right?
>> No, man.
>> Is magical. No, it's just >> No, but I already talked about Tre the Builder though.
>> Okay. Yeah, we've already talked about him. What else? Let's talk about some other stuff. We've already talked about him.
>> Oh, you did?
>> Yeah. Let's Let's talk.
>> Is all you is all you do is insult people.
>> I'm not sir. Nobody's insulting. We're having a conversation. I'm trying to get to know you, sir.
>> Yes, brother. All right. Let's Let's do that. Now, why do you have you sound like you have a little vitriol towards foundational black Americans? Are you >> Oh, when >> I don't know. You just seem like you have a little vitriol. Do you What's that about?
>> No, man. You're self-protecting now because you said to flow through the water here. I came politely.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You had to flow through the Jerry to get over here.
>> Yeah. That's what you did. You So, you did some So, you agitated first.
>> No, it's called.
>> Can I say something back to you?
>> Just It's roasting. But again, but >> Oh, roasting. So, we're joking. So, we're having a fun Feel the passive aggressive energy though.
>> How I came in talking to you, >> right?
>> Speaking, >> right? But I can feel the passive aggressive energy though.
>> You can feel it. How can you feel that when we're talking through social audio?
We're not meant face to face.
>> Feel I can feel vibrations.
>> Oh, you're Oh, you're one of those.
Like, are you like a like a hotep negro?
>> Well, what's a hotep negro? Cuz that's from that's from your homeland. Hotep?
What's that?
>> You know what that is, dude? I'm not going to explain that to you.
>> I mean, you're you're the African. I'm not a continental African. You are, sir.
Right.
>> Sure, kid. Um Um I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what this game is, but I just came out of discussion, but >> Okay. So, what do you want to talk about, Tank? What do you want to talk about?
>> Well, the first thing is the the crime bill. Uh the hate crime bill. Let's talk about that.
>> Okay.
>> Uh I I believe you guys need it. Yeah. I think, you know, um it should be petitioned, should be submitted and be done. Um I think it's a good bill to have. You know, people shouldn't be going around yelling the hard R at people in the street, you know.
>> Right. Right.
>> You know, we shouldn't be seeing women, specifically black women, getting be um what's the word? What's it bear mace? Is that what he's carrying around?
>> Mhm.
>> Yeah. You shouldn't be doing that.
That's evil.
>> Yep. All right. All right, Tank. Thank you so much, man. All right, Tank.
>> All right, get get the hairline.
>> All right, Stank. All right, your name should be Stank because you're a musty.
You're musty tether. All right, whatever. Who fantasizes about a robust FBA hairline that you will never have.
So, brush that pepperc corn and keep it pushing. All right, >> I can dig it. I'm on my way.
>> Where you going, Root Work Jones?
>> There's some musty suckers on the streets. I got to go handle that. I got some split, baby. Can you dig it? When you need to clean the stank off the streets, you don't call your mama, you call Root Work Jones.
Root Work Jones is a stone cold dude that keeps us stanky suckers shaking in their boots.
>> Listen up, chumps. I'm looking for Dolamus. Can you dig it?
>> Rootwork Jones is getting down to the nittygritty. Taking on the mustiest sucker in the city.
Do is my name and staying good and musty is my game. Where is root work Jones?
>> This is a super soul brother getting rid of the stank and you can for show take that to the bank.
>> Take that you musty jive turkeys.
>> When root work Jones is not dealing with drama. He finds time to deal with foxy mamas.
>> Why don't you come on over here and give me some of that root work, sugar?
>> Root work. Jones.
He's bold. He's bad. And he's keeping the suckers musty mad. Rootwork Jones.
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