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Jehovah's Witness Elder Reveals The Religion's Steep Decline
Added:This month, I was on the podium giving a public talk, saying things I no longer believe. Why do I do it? Because if I resign tomorrow, I lose my wife, my children, and my lifelong friends. This organization has taken our lives hostage with a perfect blackmail. Either you obey or to everyone, you're dead. So, yes, I keep playing my part. I put on the mask, but inside I feel dead.
An elder wrote that recently. Not a former witness, not an apostate, a serving elder, still on the platform, still giving the talks. He posted it in Italian on a blog in a comment section.
And within a day, it had gone viral on XJW Reddit. It's an anonymous comment.
It's just signed an XZO Elder. There's no name, no congregation, nothing to confirm. But I don't need to confirm it.
Instead, I'll do something better. I'll take every claim he made, all six of them, and check them against Watchtower's own paperwork, their yearbooks, their annual reports, their own spokesman talking to the press. And what you'll see is that their own numbers don't just back him up. Their own numbers say something worse than he did in that comment.
I was in this religion for most of my life. I had his comment translated from the original Italian, not the version that went viral in English because, as you'll see, the viral English translation dropped something that changes what he was saying and why he was saying it. But first, we'll cover what he actually said and why the version you may have already read is missing the first line. Then his claims against Watchtower's own numbers for his country, which proves he's not wrong about the collapse there. Then the number that can't be faked no matter how they try to count it. And finally, I'll answer the question, what happens to people who try to change this organization from the inside? That answer is 50 years old. And it's the reason that that elder is wearing that mask. Stay with me for that last part because that last part is really going to open your eyes and it turns this from a sad story about one guy into something that's a whole lot bigger. But first, here's the official story from the Watchtower. Watchtower published its October study edition recently, and one of its study articles tell Witnesses that their growth is a miracle from God.
in their own words, quote, "Our growth is miraculous because it is only possible with Jehovah's backing." End quote. From 5,914 to more than 9 million today, they say God's hand on the ledger. Now, I'll cover that article in full in a later video, but keep that part in mind for this one because that's the claim Watchtower is making. But now here's the full comment from that elder from the platform in a country where that chart is supposed to be a success story.
Here's what he said. A survey that arrives at exactly the right moment. I'm speaking as a congregation elder still active for obvious reasons. Let me tell you how these things look from the platform and from behind the scenes.
From the platform, the view is depressing. In front of us, there's nothing but a sea of heads bent over phones. Having to beg people to comment or always hearing the same three or four answer is depressing. We give local needs talks and the rare cases where the organization allows it, what with the constant updates to correct the ones who get distracted only because we're obliged to and we already know it won't do any good. People are mentally switched off.
The ministry is dead. At the meetings for field service, it's now almost always just us elders with our wives and occasionally a ministerial servant.
Going doortodoor has become pointless and frustrating, but we have to be there to set the example. It's absolutely true that there's a rush to get to the carts or the maintenance work. The truth is that many brothers don't even know how to ring a doorbell anymore. We're building managers, not shepherds. We spend the elders meetings settling squables, jealousies, and ridiculous complaints among the various little clicks in the congregation. Brotherly love is only a facade. Underneath it, there's a total chill. The cast most certainly does exist. When we speak with the overseers or go to the LDC construction sites, all you breathe is corporate culture. So much for spirituality.
There's a scramble for titles and power.
That's disgusting. Whoever has the special bag feels like an untouchable demigod and looks down on everyone else.
There are no replacements left. We have no young men to give assignments to. The very few who remain are empty. They've got no backbone. And they do the bare minimum just so they don't upset their parents. In a few years, many halls will have to close or merge because there'll be nobody left to a point. The average age is very high. My double life. How am I still here? That's the question that often keeps me awake at night. This month, I was on the platform giving a public talk, saying things I no longer believe. Why do I do it? Because if I resign tomorrow, I lose my wife, my children, and my lifelong friends. This organization has taken our lives hostage with a perfect blackmail. Either you obey or to everyone, you're dead. So, yes, I keep playing my part. I put on the mask and I try at least to protect the publishers from a system that's become too heavy. But inside, I feel dead.
Now, here's the first thing you need to know about this, and it's a thing that the viral version on Reddit left out.
And the original Italian, his very first line is a survey arriving at exactly the right moment because he's not confessing. This isn't a deathbed confession or anything like that. He's answering a series of questions. Two days earlier, someone on that blog where he left his comment posted six questions. Is anyone still awake in the hall or is it a passive audience dulled by tiredness and phones? Has a door-to-door work become an annoying formality? Under the smiles, how much do envy and clicks really weigh? Is there a creeping tendency to idolize whoever has a title? Do young people still exist or are they leaving? And is there real respect for the elders? Six questions and his comment answers them in that order, which is why his comment is structured the way it is. When it got posted to Reddit in English, that opening line was left off. And doing that loses some of the context, which is why it reads like an unprompted deathbed confession from a man breaking down instead of what it actually is. It's a survey response from a Pimo elder. The questions were posed and he agreed with all of them. He had good reason to agree, but he was responding to a survey. This was not a spontaneous post on his own. After talking about how depressing the view is from the platform, he says that the ministry is dead. And I've been talking about this for a while now. Only elders, their wives, and an occasional ministerial servant bother to show up. Going doortodoor is pointless and frustrating, but as an elder, he's got to do it. The witnesses just want to stand at the carts or do maintenance work is an excuse not to go door todo. In fact, most of them have forgotten how to ring a doorbell, he says. Then he goes into there being no replacements left. That young people aren't volunteering and those who do to please their parents do the bare minimum just to get them off their backs. In a few years there won't be anybody left to appoint and halls will have to close or merge. He says because everybody's getting old.
This is the reality of Jehovah's Witnesses right now. This elder, he's in Italy, but this problem isn't confined to Italy. It's all over the western world. And Italy isn't some struggling backwater for this religion. It's one of their strongest countries in the world or used to be. A quarter of a million publishers, almost 2700 congregations.
If the machine works anywhere in Europe, it should work there.
Last month, Italian witnesses held their summer conventions and Watchtower gave the figures to the press themselves. On the 27th of June in the Anapi Arena in Turin, the local paper reported that over 13,000 Jehovah's Witnesses took part in the regional convention. The photos in that article are credited courtesy of Jehovah's Witnesses sourced directly from JW.org. So, these are their numbers, their picture, their spokesman. Italy's national broadcaster covered it too. 13,000 people in that arena. And the same article gives the baptism figure 41.
41 out of 13,000. That's 3/10en of 1%.
And it's not just Turin. Bari 34, Arrizo 19, Mr. Biano and Sicily 39. four conventions, more than 33,000 people in those seats, and only 133 baptisms between them, 410 of 1%.
Now, some of the finer detail here comes from witnesses posting counts from their own halls on that Italian blog. So, just be aware that this next part isn't something I could independently verify.
It's just what they said. It's brothers counting their own conventions, but it's very consistent and it fills in the detail that the press leaves out, like who's actually getting baptized. At Frankilla, the youngest was 11 years old. At another, the youngest was a 10-year-old girl. At one assembly, the youngest was seven and the oldest was 14. One brother reports the youngest baptized at his assembly was only 6 years old. And one of them says, "What I've been telling you for a long time.
Almost all of them are kids. Some of them 13. Children of the brothers."
Children of the brothers. That's the phrase to hold on to because what that means is that the baptisms, these aren't conversions. Nobody's joining. They're baptizing their own kids. The six-year-olds, 7year-olds, 10 year olds, 11, 13, 14. That's not a religion growing. That's a religion recycling its own family tree and calling the results an increase.
In one of Watchtower's strongest Western countries, 13,000 people can fill an arena and produce only 41 baptisms. Most of them the kids of people already in those seats. That's what Watchtower is calling miraculous growth. But that's what it really looks like at the ground level.
Now, at this point, if you're inclined to defend them, you've got an obvious answer ready. Well, that's only one country. It's one summer. Maybe Italy's just having a bad year. And anyway, the worldwide number is still going up. 9 million and climbing. And you'd be right about one point. One convention doesn't prove anything. So, let's not just look at one convention, huh? Let's go and get Watchtower's own numbers for Italy over 40 years from their own reports and let's find out whether the elder is describing a bad afternoon or an international crisis.
I pulled their yearbooks. These are Watchtower's own annual statistics published by them for their own members.
In 1988, Italy had 160,584 publishers. And that year, they baptized 12,676.
7% growth. The next year, 1989, 172,000 witnesses with over 14,000 baptized. Again, 7% growth. Now, let's look at 2025. From JWorg's own annual service report published by them. Italy has over 250,000 publishers, all-time high, more witnesses in Italy than ever before. And they baptized just over 3,800 people from 14,000 baptisms in 89 to 3,800 in 2025. A 73% collapse in annual baptisms. And that's while the group grew by 57%.
And that's the whole video right there.
In 1988, roughly one in every 13 Italian witnesses brought somebody else in that year. In 2025, it's 1 in 66.
And the growth rate in 88 7% 89 7%. You know what? Italy's growth rate was in 2025 according to Watchtower's report, zero. No change. A quarter of a million people out there preaching, they claim, and the line went flat.
Now, I need to show you something about that publisher number because it's doing something quite dishonest. And once you see it, the flatline gets even worse.
Now, you may be aware that Watchtower changed how they count publishers, but you may not be aware of the timing and how it makes their numbers look a lot better than they really are. And this applies all over the world. Before November of 2023, if you were a Jehovah's Witness, you reported your time in whole hours in the field every month. Their own instructions are very specific about that. In the 1988 ministry guidance, it says only whole hours should be reported to the congregation. Whole hours. So, if you went out and spoke to one person for a couple of minutes, you didn't have an hour. And a believing witness wouldn't write down an hour that they didn't do.
I mean, they'd fudge it a little bit. We all did. But a true blue witness wouldn't put down an hour if they did nothing because that would be lying to Jehovah. So that month they report nothing. And if they report nothing for 6 months in a row, they're moved to inactive and they fall off the count.
There was exactly one exception and it was for the elderly and the infirm.
Basically just people on their way out.
An exception was made, quote, when a publisher is very limited because of advanced age, is shut in, is confined to a nursing home, or is otherwise incapacitated.
End quote. Those folks, and only those folks could report 15 minutes and stay on the roles. Well, since November of 2023, there's no time at all for the rank and file. Only the pioneers, that's someone who engages in the ministry basically full-time. You tick one box that says you shared in the ministry. No hours, no minimum. And sharing in the ministry now includes informal witnessing. A 30-cond word to a cashier counts. And you can check that box. The exception that used to be reserved only for the housebound and the dying now covers everybody, no matter how little they actually do.
Now, think about what that does to the comparison that I just showed you in the numbers. A publisher in 88 had to log real hours to exist on that report.
Publisher in 2025 just checks a box.
Those aren't the same thing. Not even close. When I tell you Italy went from 160,000 publishers to a quarter million, I'm comparing two very different measurements. I'm not going to pretend they're the same thing because they absolutely aren't the same thing. Now, I can't tell you exactly how many of that 252,000 are just boxed box tickers using the name Jehovah to their barber. I don't know. Watchtower doesn't publish that breakdown. Nobody can know that.
So, I'm not going to even try to guess.
But here's what it does mean. And this is the trick of the whole thing. The baptism number. The baptism number. Now, that's the only honest number they've got because a baptism is a baptism.
There's no grade to getting baptized.
Either you got dunked or you didn't.
Doesn't matter if it's 1988 or 2025. It means exactly the same thing. And no rule change touches that.
So when everything else in their statistics has been loosened, the one metric that survived unchanged is the one that fell by 73%.
That makes the flatline a lot worse than it appears on paper because they stretched the ruler. They made it far easier to be counted as an active witness. And at any point in the 100 years prior to that, but the number still didn't move. It was still zero growth. They loosened the definition of a witness until a passing word to a cashier qualified you and Italy still didn't grow.
They changed what counts, but it wasn't enough to make the growth look positive at all. It's zero.
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That's the right question to ask. And the answer is the most important thing in this video because the answer is 50 years old and it has been tested into oblivion.
start with where he wrote it because the blog itself is the story and the Reddit post missed that part entirely. The blog isn't an ex-witness site. It's not run by apostates. Its mast head reads Jehovah's Witnesses who ask for and propose biblical reforms so that honesty and trust come back into fashion inside their organization.
Inside their organization. These are believers. They still believe it's the truth. They think it's been captured by men who broken it and they want it fixed. They're not trying to burn it down. They're trying to save it. There are three of these blogs and they've passed 6 million views. Not exactly a fringe stat. One of the commenters signs himself as an anonymous unrecognizable European Bethlite. The administrator says almost in passing that from the branch it's difficult to operate quietly.
People are doing this from inside Bethl.
And let me say this too. They're doing something brave. I really believe that to try and fix problems with an organization that you're in to make it better. That's a noble cause. And there's a lot broken with Watchtower and Jehovah's Witnesses that would have to be fixed. But they're also doing something that has already been tried countless times and the results have been published and they are not going to like them when they see them.
Go back to 1980. The most famous case, a man on the governing body itself, Raymond France, one of the small group of men who run this religion worldwide, at least theologically. They don't actually run Watchtower in any business sense anymore. Well, they sat him down and they questioned him for three hours about what he believed and he resigned from the governing body and from the headquarters and then watch what they did to him. In March of 1981, his employer, a fellow witness, formally withdrew from the religion. That September, Watchtower announced a change. Anyone who withdraws like that is now to be shunned exactly the same as someone who's been thrown out. Raymond France kept talking to him anyway. So in November they dysfellowshipped France. A man who had sat on the governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses was expelled for sharing a meal with someone he worked for who didn't believe anymore. Now I can't prove that that change in September was meant to trap France because Watchtower knew he was still associating with the man who left. I can't. But is the timing extremely suspicious? Yeah, it is. Tell me what you think about that in the comments.
Then take a Swedish elder named Carl Olaf Johnson. He'd been asked in a Bible study to prove 607 B.CE. One of the dates the whole prophecy structure of Watchtower hangs on. So he went and checked. He spent years on it. And then he did exactly what you're told to do.
In August of 1977, he mailed his research to headquarters in Brooklyn, which is where it was at the time, through the proper channels, politely.
They dysfellowshipped him in June of 1982. Not because he was wrong. He wasn't, but because Watchtower can't let any truth that contradicts their doctrine stand, especially one that would destroy their 1914 calculation. If you are ever a witness, you know how important that is and how it falls apart when you realize what the real date was.
Fast forward to 1996. A witness named Lee Elder spent a year researching the history of the blood doctrine and concluded his words that a tragic mistake had been made. And here's the part that matters. He didn't go to the internet. He went to them. He tried to open a dialogue with Daniel Siddlick, a member of the governing body at the time. He tried the internal channel first, exactly the way that Italian blog is trying to do it right now. As you probably already suspected, they did not engage with him. So in 1997, he went public and started what became called AJWRB, the Associated Jehovah's Witnesses for Reform on Blood. And the people writing for it in those early years, these weren't outsiders. They were serving elders and hospital liaison committee members. The very men that watched our sins to the hospitals, men who had personally watched fellow believers die over that erroneous doctrine. They published in the Journal of Medical Ethics, a peer-reviewed medical journal in the year 2000. And they called themselves, and I love this phrase, loyal opposition. Their line was, "We do not seek the destruction of the organization."
Loyal opposition, believers, elders, men in the hospital committees asking politely in a medical journal because Watchtower wouldn't listen directly for one policy to change. Well, you can guess what happened to them. This is from their own website archived in 2006.
their words. AJWB members in the United States, the Netherlands, and the United Kingdom have been dysfellowshipped for questioning the Watchtower's irrational blood policy.
Three countries, all of them kicked out and shunned for asking the logical question, "Is this really from the Bible or is it from men?" Well, the governing body answered that question this year, which we'll get to in just a second.
And this wasn't a fringe thing that nobody noticed. In 1998, mainstream medical ethics was already publishing papers about it. One of them literally titled, "Should bioethical deliberation consider dissident views?"
Academics were studying the Jehovah's Witnesses internal dissident movement.
They were studying it 28 years ago.
Sad is that story end? Well, go to AJWRB's website today. They've rebranded. Now they're called the Alliance for Jehovah's Witness Research and Bioeththics, a professional bioeththics organization that lobbies doctors, lawyers, and governments for change on this horrific policy. The reform from within language is completely gone from their mission statement. That's what happened to reform when they tried to change it from within. It got expelled from three countries and the survivors stayed alive by leaving and becoming an outside pressure.
Now watch what happens when you line all that up. Next to what Watchtower did this year on the 20th of March 2026, just 4 months ago, the governing body reclassified storing your own blood before surgery from completely forbidden against God's law to a matter of conscience. As recently as 2021, their own literature said that donating your own blood for later use was not acceptable for Christians. For over 60 years, they taught that blood taken out of the body must be poured out and not stored. It was printed on the back of what we call their blood cards that the witness would absolutely refuse autotogus blood transfusion where you store your own blood and use it later in surgery.
And then one day, quietly from the very top, at the end of a governing body update, it became a matter of conscience. And why? Well, Garrett Lo admitted in that broadcast that the policy was from men all along and not from God. He directly said that the Bible doesn't comment on the use of one's own blood in medical procedures.
Huh? Guess what, Los? The Bible doesn't comment comment on the use of anyone's blood in any way in any medical procedure of any kind. You'll never convince me that they don't already know this and that they've known it for years. Of course, they know. They just don't care. And they let people keep dying anyway.
So, that part of the blood policy moved and it moved exactly in the direction that the men were expelled for pointing at. And not one person who is dysfellowshipped for questioning that policy has been reinstated or vindicated or so much is mentioned by the watchtower. No apology has been issued.
No mayulpa. The change arrived from above unattributed decades later as if they came up with it themselves. And the people who got there first are still shunned by their families even though Watchtower just admitted they were right.
That's both the pattern and the problem.
You can be right and still get kicked out and shunned if you say it too early.
That's not an organization that's open to reform from within. That's an organization that eventually catches up to some of the people that it throws away, but it never tells him about it and it never apologizes.
So now go back to that elder from the beginning standing on that platform saying things he no longer believes and look at what his options really are. He can say nothing and rot, which is exactly what he's doing. And it's why he says he feels dead inside. He can ask for change politely through all the proper channels. He can be completely correct. And there are 50 years of receipts telling you exactly how that would end for him. From a governing body member all the way down to a Swedish elder and a to a man who wrote Daniel Siddlick and got nowhere. or he can leave the religion completely, lose his wife, his kids, and every friend he's had since he was a boy. That's not cowardice. He's not weak. He knows exactly what will happen if he tries what many others have tried and failed to do. And that brings us to the part of this story that nobody screenshotted.
Underneath that elers's comment, two men replied to him. Both of them were former elders, too. and they were nice about it, but they disagreed with him on one point. The first one tells him, "Your desolate portrait is unfortunately a reality common to many congregations."
And then he says, "I resigned and I lost none of my loved ones nor my friends, some of them elders." The second one, 20 years, an elder wrote, "Rest easy. True friends will stay friends. You won't lose your wife. Love doesn't break."
He tells him that he won't lose his wife, that love doesn't break. But the problem is those two elders appear to have completely misunderstood what the first elder was saying. According to the translation that I got, the first one says, "Now that I'm out of the circle, I feel free to serve Jehovah according to my conscience to support the sheep." Out of the circle, the elder body, he's still a witness. The second one's even more explicit about it. He says, "A few years ago, I resigned as an elder." So, he just quit being an elder. He's still going. We know he's still going because he says, "The brothers still love each other and want to help each other.
You'll be precious to the brothers, maybe more than before. Jehovah, who reads the heart, will sustain you."
Neither of those two former elders who replied to the first left. They just gave up an appointment and stayed exactly where they were. Of course, they didn't lose their families because they never did the thing that the original elder is afraid of but wants to do. He wants to leave. He says, "If I go tomorrow, I lose my wife, my children, and my lifelong friends." And the kindest men in that comment section answer him, "I gave up a badge and got to keep mine." I'm sure they meant every word of that. They're probably totally sincere, but they're completely talking past what the Pimo elder was saying.
He's not asking whether he can resign as an elder. He's asking whether he can stop being a Jehovah's Witness. And nobody in that thread, not the exelders, not the reformers, not the man running the blog from inside the branch office can offer him a door that doesn't come with extremely severe consequences if he chooses to walk through it. There isn't one. So, what do you do with that?
Well, here's my take, and let me know if you agree with it or not in the comments. Those reformers are right about the D diagnosis, but they're wrong about the cure. Honesty isn't coming back into fashion inside that organization for two reasons. First, because it never existed in the first place. I've looked into the history of this organization extensively. I made a 2-hour documentary about it after mountains of research. Honesty is not a word that anyone who knows their history can ever apply to Watchtower and the leadership of Jehovah's Witnesses. And second, because the record says every single person who asked for change with evidence and proof got kicked out and shunned for asking. And then years later, the organization often did the thing anyway and gave them no credit.
They gave all the credit to themselves.
For 50 years, a governing body member, elders, hospital liaison committeemen, publishing in medical journals, every one of them kicked out and shunned even though they were right. Hoping for internal change isn't noble at this point. It's a pipe dream with 50 years of evidence saying don't bother. And if you're still a believer, and a lot of the people on that blog sincerely are, I'm sure, then here's the thing I'd want someone to have said to me decades ago.
Your faith does not require those men.
It never did. If what you love is God and honesty, you can take those somewhere that doesn't hold your children hostage to your silence. I can tell you that from experience. They're out there. They exist. And you can find one where you live. If not, you can build one. What you can't do with the last half century says flatly won't work is expect them to fix it from the inside. No matter how much evidence you provide them that you are correct.
Now, there's one more thing in that comment section that I want to mention before we're done here.
Another witness still in writing under the name Wind from the North was answering the same survey. And without a trace of irony, he wrote this. The internet is changing everything. Young people now have access to all the information that used to be hidden.
They'll become less and less tolerant of the elites authoritarian demands. And then this, they'll only be able to grow in poor countries where there's no internet.
That's not me saying it. That's not some apostate. That's a believing Jehovah's Witness on a witness reformation blog telling other witnesses that their religion can now only grow where people can't look it up. And he's right. My documentary that I mentioned, it will walk you step by step through how that all happened. How an oddball band of mostly harmless people created a group that eventually morphed into one of the largest highcontrol religions commonly known as a cult on Earth today. It's called From Kookie to Cult, the history of Jehovah's Witnesses. The link is in the pinned comment or you can click that icon in the corner to watch that now.
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