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Ask your questions in the chat to Ivan or me, or about Bitgat in general. And among the most interesting questions, we will give away merch. So, today our guest is Ivan Pavlovsky, SEO and co-founder of Incrypted, the largest crypto media outlet in the region. Encrypted has grown from a small Telegram channel to a leading media outlet with an audience of hundreds of thousands. They also hold their own conference for 3,000 plus people. Ivan has been in crypto for over 4 years, and before that, he spent 15 years in internet marketing. He conducts exclusive interviews, including with Vitalik Buterin, speaks at events, and has a knack for explaining complex issues in simple terms. Ivan, welcome. Hello. Thank you for being with us today.
Hello. Light update. Uh, Encrypted was 8 years ago, so I've been in crypto for 8 years now. Uh, it's already the ninth one. Apparently the information is a little out of date. And so, uh, it’s all true, yes. And there wasn’t exactly an interview about Buterin, but I think we’ll return to this issue. Hi all. Uh, good to be here. Thank you for inviting me. I would be happy to share my thoughts if they are useful to you.
Yes, super. Well, let's start, I guess, with getting to know each other. Sorry for the correction, I didn't do the fact-checking. My bad. I'm making corrections.
Please tell us briefly about yourself.
and the encrypted project, how it came about and how you are developing it in your region.
Well, look, I've done a lot of interviews, and the way I got into crypto is almost completely different from everyone else's, because everyone became interested in crypto, they started to understand something. I didn't give a damn about crypto at all. I worked in IT in Nikolaev. These were the top three versts of this population. That is, there were grain workers, some cops and IT specialists, well, sort of for a living. And my godfather came to me, he’s, like, a serial entrepreneur. He says: "I'm investing a little bit in crypto, I've seen it, and now Bitcoin is growing, Ethereum is growing." I think it would be a great idea to create media about crypto.
I'm ready to pay you the same salary you had in IT. That is, you walk safely, and you kind of study all this there as much as you need, 3 months, and then we launch the media. Well, as someone who literally, I don't know, had a baby six months ago, I thought, "Why not? Leave my high-paying job and get involved in crypto, which I've never heard of." And so, in 3 months, roughly speaking, I reread and re-watched a million materials there. Uh, and on October 30th we launched, uh, a Telegram channel. The first post came out that I beat another time high, it was $6,000 or something, I don’t remember anymore.
Well, then, uh, January 2018 happened and a protracted crypto winter lasted 2 years. And we are like a newborn mediator, without money, without connections, without a reputation, without anything.
And then at some point the following year, in the summer of 1918, Andryukha started coming. He was interested in crypto before me. And he knew my godfather. He says: “Well, who, I want to introduce a channel, but I don’t know how.” He says: "Okay, Vanya, talk to him." We talked, uh, as he says, I kind of know something about marketing, about media, about all this journalism, but I don’t know [ __ ] about crypto. He's like, "We need to get in here too." I say: “Well, we don’t have a budget, you don’t need to come here.” And he kept walking, kept walking. And so, Andryukha, it’s like, you know, the ideal gem, which, imagine, in 2012, a guy comes to you and says: “Buy Bitcoin.” He says: “I don’t have any money, leave me alone.” Yes, buy it. Well, yeah, leave me alone, he says, let me just give you bitcoins every month. Here every day. And so, Andryukha, he came every day, poured out some ideas, it was all free. That is, he walked for six months, uh, then he managed to earn a little money there. Well, anyway, somewhere in the middle of the crypto winter, my godfather, my investor, says: "Listen, the hypothesis didn't work out, the market is crap, I'm not going to pay money anymore." At this point Andryukha looked up, like, they even paid money here. And we thought that since we had already gotten into this topic, that is, there were already some developments, some first subscribers of some kind had already appeared, well, even some advertising orders. Oh, he says: "Let's try."
And, uh, we wanted 70x to 30 there, because I was like the first one, but he says: "Let's make it 50x50." I thought that 50/50 from nothing, it doesn’t matter that 70 on. And what’s more, it wasn’t for nothing, because we owed the investor, well, 21,000 dollars there, well, like 14, and he wanted to earn another 50 on top. Therefore, Andryukha took 50% of the debt of 14,000 10 dollars.
And so two cofounders appeared, who then began to, well, pull it all out. This is the first time I've heard such a personal story about how companies actually start out with everyone being like, "No, we had a business plan, we raised money, we had several rounds." Well, this is how projects are really born. [laughter] Well, that's true, yes. And so, then, for example, uh, how did we come to a partnership with top exchanges, with top projects, uh, at first we had advertising, so to speak, there was a signal channel, 20 places left, I will delete in 20 minutes. Then we thought we needed to grow. We gave up this advertising, uh, sat for 2 months without money, the market cleared up, our advertising projects came there, so to speak, theaters. And so we did this several times until this channel was cleared of all this slag and top projects began to arrive. That is, at first they simply let us into the room, there are, well, big exchanges, projects, and, it’s encrypted, we know them, but we wo n’t pay anything. And then we came to the point that now, well, all the top people that we have, they are all with us on a permanent media support basis. That is, we are partners there in the conference, in everything, that is, it’s just such a long period when we have never let anyone down and, relatively speaking, have done our job honestly for, well, 8 years already and have reached where we are now. Yes. Have you noticed any changes in cryptomedia in general, in its development or trends? If yes, then what?
Ah, well look, uh, I can tell you about myself, that is, uh, what has changed? We have, so to speak, mm, two such big changes.
Well, if we talk about the latter, yes, then the first thing is the war, because, uh, it was such a test, that is, it was, well, like a bull, uh, everything was fine. Everything was cool. And then the war began. And, uh, about half of what we earned for the usual, we immediately invested in the help, well, the ZSU, in short, practically putting the encrypted into standby mode. But then we realized that we couldn’t last that long and we had to continue doing something, working, so as not to, well, just die the next day. We decided that just working is boring, so we need to develop. That's why this period, the last 4 years, is probably the fastest development we've had in all of crypto history. That is, our team grew from 15 to 50 people. We've opened a new line of events, an offline conference, meta-events, and everything. We launched the Encrypted Plus subscription and so on and so forth. That is, uh, at the moment when some, uh, [ __ ] happens, you can either, uh, do nothing, then, like I told you, it’s like you’re riding a bike uphill, you stop pedaling and eventually you’ll slide down or you’ll be overtaken by more, like, active guys.
Or you can leave the market altogether, as many of our competitors have done. That is, everyone, uh, everyone who, you know, not the media, for example, but influencers, there are callers, who, when there is a bull, they are all there, buy, come in, come, but when there is a bear or some kind of prank, it immediately returns to some familiar stories, a factory there and so on. And the third option is to hit the ground running. Well, like, we chose to bang because, well, well, we can’t do it any other way. That is, on the one hand there is a shitty situation, but on the other hand you can sort of extract some benefit from it. And the second set of changes is related to the active growth of the AI sector. As in any situation, there are two sides to the coin. On the one hand, Google has developed AISP, uh, which gives you an answer to a question, no, no, without allowing you to go to the site. That is, traffic has dropped, well, quite significantly.
And as usual, we're not used to giving up, so we've got a lot of materials about Ishka, guides, promts, and news. A separate aidel on the website is currently being completed. And overall, nothing has changed in terms of the fact that people still need high-quality, interesting, and cool content. Uh, formats, what platforms there are, they change there. Our Instagram account was recently banned. Why? Who the hell knows. Well, like, a lot of, uh, crypto media had their accounts banned, but we have Telegram, Twitter, YouTube, websites, Discord, and everything there. That is, the issue is not the platform, but the quality of the content. So nothing has changed here. It's the same for people. They respond with likes and views to what is truly relevant in the market, what people need. And nothing has changed here, thank God. We have some skills in this area.
Listen, have you already said a little about the conference? Tell us how you managed to become number one in the region? And oh, yes, again, there was already a question about Vitalik Buterin in the chat, by the way. How did you manage to pull out such an influxer? I understand that he has a lot of regalia and all that. Eh, as I understand it, this is not the first tier of one speaker you have. Eh, tell me about this side of the experience.
I don't know which interview you're talking about. We didn't have an interview with Buterin. Perhaps you are saying that he was at our conference in 1924.
Uh, look, the first answer to the question: how did we become number one? Because we launched these events at the moment the war started. And everyone who was supposed to be an event provider, they all simply left the market. And we, being completely out of our minds, decided that it was high time to start doing events, because people still want to meet and talk about topics that, well, only they understand, because they can’t talk to anyone else except their own kryptonians.
Uh, and, ah, if I go back to the beginning, we started trying ourselves as event organizers back in 2017, even before crypto. Andryukha was walking around there, even talking about Bitcoin on TV. There he has a famous video where he is holding a plaque as a cryptocurrency expert, telling some nonsense, in short. And, but the history of encrypted EVEN began 2 years later. In 1919, in Nikolaev, in our first office, we gathered 15 people. These were encrypted Talks. And half of them were our friends. There are two of them who now work at Encrypted. Well, that is, it’s a very home-made, in short, meta-pickup, they used to collect them for pizza. We wanted to create some kind of community. We were simply interested in communicating with real people, and not just dumping information somewhere on the Internet.
But then it would not work out, because in Nikolaev, where I live, the total volume of krypton is very small. So, there was, well, no room for us to roam around. In 21st year in Odessa we decided to make such a big meta. It was a club in Arcadia, there were 200 people there. We even had partners who gave us money, but we still didn't come out on top because we were the first to take down the event. We're there, well, everything is the coolest, most expensive, drinks, food. Um, and we realized that people weren't just there for a party, there were no speakers or performances. And we realized that before drinking, people need to listen to something, understand something intelligent, learn about the spirit, and so on. So, uh, we drew conclusions and were already preparing a conference there for next year, but like, it's 22, war, bear market, no one is doing events, it's completely depressing. So, we went to a web summit in Portugal, and our team created the app without us, so in November we arrived in Kyiv to a ready-made meta app. There were 700 people, a full hall, in short, people were just, well, going crazy. We realized that this is what people need. Let's do it, yes, it's scary, yes, it's risky. Well, in 1923, this was already the first conference. And since then, we've been hitting all-time highs there at every conference, yes. In the twenty-third year there were, uh, 1,000 people, in the twenty- fourth there were already 2,000 2,000 people.
in twenty-fifth 2,500 people. If I understand correctly, Vitalik Buterin, uh, came to our conference in 24. And how was it? That is, the conference is the final event of Ukrainian Blockchain Week. Well, as you know, there, for example, uh, there's that same, what's it called, my God, token 2049. And there are a bunch of side events around it.
We have the same plan. That is, there is a large confinement around her. We are still smaller than the 2049 token, probably 100 times, but that's the idea. And one of these side events was the Ethereum Hackathon, which Vitalik attended, and this was not the first time he had come to Ukraine, including during the war. We kind of knew he was coming, but he wasn't planning on performing. That is, he just wanted to chat with his geeky developer dudes.
And we talked to these guys from Hackathon. He says: "But if he's already arrived, let's at least have him award the guys on stage, say a few words, say we'll give him some NFTs, a cat, and so on and so forth." This is what happened. That is, we had no agreement about his performance. And our interview turned out to be crumpled, because the people who carried him, uh, they tried to make themselves look important at his expense. That is, you know, people who don’t decide anything on their own. But here I am with Vitalik Butera, they created this taktak, he doesn’t have time, so let’s not ask these questions there. And we see that when we ask him questions about technical matters, about some individual entrepreneurs, you know, he immediately gets interested, his eyes light up, but these questions are not approved, and they approved some political questions there, which he doesn’t give a damn about. Well, like he just came, well, to communicate with the community. I hope, I have a feeling that we will see each other again in more favorable circumstances, because I think he has a lot of interesting things to say about what he knows and what interests him, and not about what his circle of friends wants him to say. Yes. Yes. For those of you watching the broadcast right now, we're a stockbroker at all events and we cover crypto, too. So if you've never been, go and find out what it's like to interact in person.
Not just with speakers, but simply with people who are also passionate about crypto or simply studying and investing. Because many, when they go for the first time, are completely shocked that there are so many of them. Sorry for the off-topic. Vanya, it's just that this crypto conference is just another opportunity. the opportunity to meet your co-founder, maybe your investor, your next CO or CTO, just kind of learn some new idea. You know, when I used to go to conferences, I wasn't interested because I thought I'd show up and the speaker would say from the stage, "So, where's Pavlovsky? Write this down. I've come up with a specific idea for you to do." Naturally, this does not happen. I understand that this conference is just some kind of flow of ideas.
And they may not even be related to what you're thinking about now, but they'll give you some kind of idea, you'll hear something off-the-wall here or there, and you'll be like, "Oh, you can do it like this." That is, it’s just, well, like a change of picture, a bunch of different opinions, thoughts. You listened to something there, what people were doing, told them, and learned to write. We have very big problems with people even pushing themselves. Well, like talk about who you are, what you do. And this is, well, a 100% skill that every person needs to have.
Yes, I agree. Let's talk about the market. But now the current state of the market is 2026. We see that the bull market has not happened.
Many are already upset, many are begging. Yes.
In your opinion, what is really happening now? What are you betting on? Are you expecting a bull market? And in general, where is your editorial team looking, so to speak?
Payroll. Just kidding, anyway, look. Well, it’s clear that things are n’t like they used to be. Like before there was one trend, and everyone got into it, and it lasted a long time. Tipashki, Yoshki, then Def Summer, then there was the NFT boom. That doesn't happen anymore, yes.
uh, the markets have become uh more complex, there is less liquidity, the narratives are shorter, uh more short-term and but nevertheless, it is possible to make money in any market at any time. Well, the question is how ready you are, how prepared you are, how close you are to the right people, because it seems to me that right now, making money on your own, well, doing anything at all, yes, in crypto, is not an option, because everything is changing so quickly, everything is so complicated, that you simply can’t handle it on your own. It's the same as, well, in the era of AI, not using AI, at least basicly, yes.
And although many people think that AI will do all the work for you, I recently released a reel that the most important skill in the era of AI is to be a person of action. So if you come up with AI, what should you do? If you don’t imagine that in 5 years the AI will be telling you what to do, where to go, what your salary will be. Therefore, also with the market. Now I'm going to literally open the report on the plus for April of 26, when they say that there seems to be nothing.
Hey, by the way, I can share it if you want.
Yeah, come on, come on, we'll get it out now, now, now, now.
So, guys, while we wait for the screen, write something in the comments. You see, we are bringing out the questions. Those we bring out will receive merch. It's always nice. So, you can see me, right?
Oh, yes, I display the screen. Everything is visible.
Well, they say memes are dead, right? Uh, in short, in April, uh, there were a lot of memes that gave straight Xs, which, in principle, well, are not unusual for this market. Well, people think, yes, that the market is dead, nothing is happening, but something is happening. And the question is, to what extent does your environment allow you to find all this in a timely manner, to what extent do you have software, automation, for example, uh, and so on. We have a runnerbot there, which gave these X's to memes.
E smart idea. Here's a goblin, by the way, uh, also mcoin. Well, the most interesting thing is that if the guys from the last set had thrown in $200, they would have recouped the annual subscription in literally, well, a day. Uh, spot positions, right? That is, trading works too. Well, if you know how to do it, if you are constantly learning, we have a lot of material coming out on scalping now, well, that is, there is no such thing as everything not working, everything is bad, uh, or you have to wait for some big trend to get into it. We just need to approach the issue more professionally. The market, you know, is no longer a tin can.
Well, it's like tinkering, but for those who are savvy. Yes.
Who, yes, who has acquired more skills, knowledge, and so on. That is, it just became more complicated. And in order to stay alive in this market, you just need to improve your skills. There, uh, an installation, but the same G. Uh, here are the limits, here, in short, sets of positions, just like, uh, trading.
Uh, what else was there?
It turns out that you, your theory, memes remain, but we need to understand which ones. And trading works, right? Yes. We are actively farming now.
For example, you need to, uh, well, like the Kraken exchange with a potential very good drop. And, to be honest, while we're looking at it, the competition there is very, very little.
There's pooling, for example, 400% on pooling, you just throw into the pool, well, in the liquidity pool on Ethereum, in the arbitrage there, BSC tokens, which are growing in volume or strong news items or some kind of increased activity around them and you simply earn money on pooling. But this needs to be understood and known. Regarding trading, everything seems to be working as well. Somewhere short, somewhere long. Yes.
Well, what I'm getting at is that, yeah, uh, right now I can conclude that even in this market, anyone who can and wants to can make money by studying the necessary information. Being more, well, you can, of course, you can talk about, of course, you know, some global trends, like RVA or about a payment layer for air agents, but you ask any guy, who's here now, huh, how can you make money on this? Well, okay, there is an RVA trend, but some big guys are making money on it, who have access to real estate or something else or to high liquidity or the same payment layer for bots. That is, we were now, well, not now, in Hong Kong in February at the consensus.
Probably 60 percent of projects are on- ram, off-ramp payments, all that stuff, in short. That is, they are simply building a large technological layer for there, for blockchain, for agents. But, well, for the average person, it's very difficult to make money from this, right? You can create some kind of startup that might fit in there or invest in some startup, but this is, well, not such a sure thing.
That is, if you want to overtake the market, you need to, uh, greatly improve your skills, the quality of your environment, uh, knowledge. Well, it's like in any job. That is, if you are not a specialist in what you do, you will simply be at the level of a middle manager, a middle manager, receiving some kind of salary that will be enough for you to pay for utilities and food, and to go to Egypt once every 5 years.
[laughter] Listen, but overall for the year twenty-six, the end of twenty-six, are you more optimistic or negative about Let's talk about how the crypto asset will feel overall. The main top five are at least Bitcoin and a couple of altcoins, which... Listen, I forgot my crystal ball today, but we have a video where we're like searching for the bottom of Bitcoin, it's like an essay, in short, we talked about how we researched a bunch of cycles, both crypto and general macroeconomic.
And this analysis shows that for things to get better, they need to get much worse. Well, that is, uh, because everything one way or another depends on the US, on the Fed, which floods the market with money, and so on, and so forth. There is no such situation at the moment. That is, uh, this mini-war of Trump in Iran is not a bad enough, well, situation for the Fed to start printing money in horror and flooding the market with liquidity. That is, if we look at 220, when the pandemic began, people were dying, there is this online website, where they just show dots, now 1,000 people have died here, 2,000 here, it’s just a scary thing. And the economy there is stagnating, everything is in complete disarray.
And then this situation happened. There's also the fact that people are sitting at home in quarantine, uh, liquidity has been injected into the market, someone was given helicopter money. Uh, they're in a pretty good situation, so why not make money on crypto?
In short, according to our feelings, according to my feelings, uh, according to what the crystal ball says, uh, there are two options. like the bottom is either summer, but most likely summer can become a trap for these, you know, greedy guys. And the real bottom will happen at the end of 2026, when, well, something really terrible, bad, horrible will happen, because it’s repeating itself, well, the whole history. This doesn't even include the fortress. That is, first there was the Cuban missile crisis, yes, the red threat, now there will be a nuclear war, after that one of the coolest periods in history began there. economics, stock market, and so on. Then there was 1972, that oil crisis or some other crisis, they untied the dollar.
Well, in short, I think that we haven’t yet found the bottom of the market, and these are all false, uh, attempts to reach the top in order to catch someone. But it’s like, you know, like any trader says, it can go up, or it can go down, but it’s definitely to the right.
That's why I'm more inclined to the black lebeze, yes, such a big one, which will then turn us around, yes. Well, globally, look, if you are waiting for such a big cycle, then most likely you are not in the market, you are just an observer who is watching how crowd psychology works.
That is, when people see all-time high, they run to crypto. Although, in theory, it’s time to cache it, yes. Well, most people still don't do [ __ ] in a bad market. Although it is the other way around. Well, that is, uh, now you need to prepare for this, because when the bull comes, you don’t have time to study, uh, develop skills, some kind of software. You just need to turn it into cache, like that, quickly. And right now the foundations are being laid for those future X's. But people do the opposite. That is, when the market is bad, they leave, like I’ll come back when the market is normal. Then, when normal guys get drunk, they get drunk with these guys who have already entered the normal market.
Yes, let's have conditions and opportunities, yes, there is always room to earn money, no matter what trends we expect. Well, I'm telling you, you're an observer. If you can't work in any market, then you are just an observer, and you are not ready to beat the market. Yes.
[snorts] Okay. Listen, let's probably move on to the next block about the UX of Universal Exchange.
Ah, and it is actively moving in that direction.
We're now not only a platform that allows you to trade crypto, but we also offer trading in American stocks, oil, CFDs, gold, and indices. And, ah, here's through the prism of cryptomedia, based on experience. Do you think the crypto community is ready? Yes, we are now talking primarily about this corditorium, with which you kind of started. I think that now you have readers who are investors in general, and there, and we also started out as a crypto platform. Is the crypto community ready to invest in more traditional assets, but through a crypto exchange? This is the first question. And if you have any experience whatsoever with investing through a platform like this, for example, buying gold, then this is something that is currently just all the hype, [clears throat], so to speak.
Well, look, the first question is the moment. I'm really glad that this has become possible through a crypto exchange, because, for example, in Ukraine, buying some American stock through a broker is, well, such a pain in the ass. That is, the money must be brought in through some kind of terrible story. The markets are open there, well, as usual, yes, from nine until four.
This whole story. That is, from the point of view of a technical update, this is simply top notch. This is [ __ ] awesome. It's like, uh, all processes are accelerated, made simpler. That is, you just move your account to the exchange and that’s it, you don’t need licenses, brokers, and all that other stuff there. Top on this side.
In terms of whether the community is interested, I think it is, because like any hamsters, they're kind of trying, thinking that if they don't succeed in crypto, then I'll go into stocks and succeed there. And again, if you saw when silver was at the top, there were lines on the street where people were buying silver, after that it, well, there, collapsed normally. That is, crowd psychology always works.
As for me, well, I’ve more or less figured out how to work with crypto in 8 years, but every day there’s something new. And this is another new industry that I don’t know [ __ ] about. That is, as an ordinary person, I am interested in buying something. For example, my wife took a course on the stock market, she's interested, but she went through a broker, I'll show her now that this can be done through a script. But she was just curious about how it worked. That is, for her, this is some kind of important aspect, you know, of a successful person, that she needs to sell American Fanda, the cool one.
She bought herself something there, a Tesla, because we have two Teslas. She bought Google because Google forced her to buy it, and by the way, Google gave her 40% in a month. And this, by the way, is one of the Kakastans Listen, 40%, listen, 40% in a month. And that, just for a second, is a whopping 1.3 trillion in fresh capitalization. It's just that in the market, one month's growth is greater than the cap in almost any cryptocurrency. Well, except for the bitcoin, yes, and that's already close.
That is, the traditional market is already pumped up, well, to the limit. If such infusions are possible there, then the web-3 market, well, it will just take a little bit of this and that’s it, and everything will be fine.
Uh, that’s why I, well, from the point of view of direct investments, don’t consider it, because I don’t understand it. I want to do what I know. But as a regular person, not like SEO encrypted or Cfounder, I probably do want to buy something just so I can then PM Elon Musk and say, "Well, what's up with our company, what's up with Tteesla, anyway, I don't have the update."
What's up with Space X, by the way, right?
Recently, people started talking about Musk.
Now, Prime IPO still has a product from Bitket. And Space X launched. Next up is Open AIO.
Well, it’s clear that we’ve passed the era of crypto IPO projects. Now this is exactly what is merging with traditional markets. So yes. Let's take a question from the chat to you right away. How do you personally approach diversification? What are the main directions? Here we have now moved a little away from the script. This is a question for you personally : where do you invest? How do you diversify?
Listen, well, as I said at the beginning, uh, I have a different path. While people who came into crypto figured it out themselves, became crypto enthusiasts, and then built some kind of influence around it, I was initially building a team.
Well, that is, so that other people would do it. That is, we have an investment branch that conducts project analysis, invests, doesn’t invest, deals with all these vestings, and so on. There is enced, in which, uh, every day you receive a to-do list of what needs to be done, well, opportunities, yes, which are there to work on in order to do something. Uh, there is a conference, there is, uh, the editorial office. And therefore, well, my investment, it is generally as, how can I say it, grandfatherly. Well, that is, my entire main activity is, well, like building enripted. I don’t live off what I invest there, what I bought or sold there, that doesn’t exist. That is, I simply buy basic assets for the long term, like Bitcoin, Ethereum, Salana, Hype, and that’s it. And I forget about them forever.
That is, my main job is to build encrypted. And within this work, investments are taking place, in which, well, we as a company participate. That is, I, uh, I specifically created incrypts so as not to have to do it myself. I told you at the beginning, my goal is not to work. So I'm moving towards it systematically. That is, there is a certain branch that deals with investments, and they are better at it than I am.
So why should I do this? Yes.
Well, we heard that there is a more traditional business, there are some tokens that you buy, and an investment from the team, from the company. Well, cool. That is, it’s not like you only believe in Bitcoins or you only buy currency, you have everything mixed. Yes.
Depends on the market stage. Look, there is a stage when, for example, I believe in sales. Well, there was a coinlist, yes, in 1925. That is, from the beginning of 25, somewhere until the summer, well, it was good there. Well, how it was, for example, in the same twenty-first year, when each token simply shot up there 10, 20, 30, 50, 100 x. This is what I like to invest in. As for everything that has to do with Bitcoin, I probably invest it not for myself, but for my daughter. That is, it all comes down to the wallet. Someday this will be a class for her. That is, you won’t beat the market if you just invest in Bitcoin and try to play with it. Well, at least I’m not a professional trader, I’m something else. Well, that's not my topic. My goal is to gather qualified people and help them do their jobs well, which, in fact, gives me some income.
Understood. Let's talk about the future of cryptomedia. Now they are divided into several flanks. These are traditional media. We would probably include here websites, and in part even, perhaps, some review videos, Telegram channels, where people now mainly read news, and other social networks, YouTube, Twitter.
Which of these platforms do you think offers more value right now? Does it offer a greater advantage for readers? Where can they find up- to-date information? And what do you think will happen to crypto media in 3-5 years? Recently we had, uh, a folklore, and they say that we generally think that there, uh, everything, everything is sad, gloomy and this will push us all away now, but we still continue. What is your position on this?
Well, look, from a media point of view, that is, we can’t be on just one platform, we need to be everywhere. Well, that is, as it is convenient for the person, he should find us everywhere. Instagram, Twitter, Telegram, YouTube, because everyone perceives information differently. Some people are visual, some like to read, some like short things, some like long things, and so on. That is, our task is to be represented everywhere. And as I already said, the basis of all this is quality content. This means that in 3-5 years, only high-quality content will be valued. Here's the question of formats, it's just a matter of adapting to people. So it's clear that with the era of the dead, everything gets shorter, right? That is, people cannot stand an hour-long video. They need to find out in 15 seconds, uh, where to earn 100 x.
But conditionally, yes, we kind of adapt to different formats, but high-quality content is the foundation. From a person's point of view, where it is best to look again depends on what the person does.
That is, we have specifically created Telegram channels on various topics. There are drops, there are tokens, there is a market, these markettv wanted to say, uh, encrypted markets, about trading, about all these different things and setups.
Uh, if you want, for example, well, if, for example, I don’t know, you’re an investor and or, well, in short, for you, Twitter will probably be the primary source, because Twitter in crypto is still number one in terms of primary sources, in terms of all the top people who post on Twitter, and you need to be on Twitter and read it there, follow everyone, because trends are born on Twitter, and then they spread further across different platforms, that is [clears throat] The problem is precisely the information noise, that is, a person tries to grasp a huge amount of information and gets lost. And you need to understand what your strengths are, what you want to do.
For example, in this direction, for example, trading, yes, then most of the noise needs to be removed. Well, in trading, fundamentals play a role, but in order for you to understand the general fundamentals of the market, it’s enough to have an inscription, let’s say, or whatever you read in the media, all the fundamentals that exist will already be there for you. And you need to shift everything else to a professional point of view, there are some kind of setups, like technical ones, how to acquire some kind of skills. Well, that is, it’s more of a narrow niche story. Therefore, in order to receive cool, useful information, you need to reduce the number of sources to the one that you directly need for work.
Everything else is information noise, which, well, disrupts your performance and efficiency, right?
And in 3-5 years, I think that we will be, uh, well, like the top one in Europe, probably in Eastern Europe. That's how it is, because, [sighs] uh, right now we are focused on uh the CIS market, but we are kind of looking at different language versions and maybe we will go there, yes. Yes.
Yes, I think this is a big logical step. As for the information noise, I notice it myself. I subscribe to, I think, 300+ public pages there for work.
And at some point you just don’t even find it interesting to open it anymore.
I imagine it's just with people for whom it's not work, but they're just there trying to relax, learn something new, and a thousand news items are still unclear, and whether someone has fact-checked it or not, how relevant it is to their situation. It's hard, yes. But it's great because goalless scrolling is basically the same as doomscrolling, where you just scroll through TikTok news; it doesn't stick in your mind and doesn't provide any benefit. Yes.
OK, thank you. Let's probably move on to a blitz survey. I will ask you questions. You may not answer briefly, or you may not necessarily answer briefly. If you think it is necessary, you can, and then expand on your answer. Here. I'm just curious to know your opinion. Let's begin. Do you personally invest in crypto or just watch? You already said yes. Tell me briefly, the assets that you have in your wallet are the main ones, correct. Fer salanakhe and bought rip Biden again. Ma'am is now Biden. Yes, yes.
I'll study it for the first time, to be honest, I hear.
Nobody heard the hug. We just had a case when, uh, Rip, I don’t remember the name of the previous Pope, but the one who died, Benedict, in short, Rippo was, uh, this ma’am.
And our editor-in-chief bought this meme, and when the Pope died, he probably had, well, about 50 X's. I just bought Rip Biden. Well, it's not eternal. Someday I won't comment on anything, but I understand. Let's move on to the next question.
Would you buy Tesla shares through BTGET?
How is your wife?
Only my wife can buy through BTG. Let this responsibility lie on her.
[laughter] I get these referral fees. Yes.
[laughter] Will Bitcoin be above 150k in 2026?
I don't think so. Yes.
And what percentage of your portfolio, we’re not saying, just the total 100x, would you be willing to give up for redfile assets, these are stocks, gold, and so on.
Well, as I already said, not at all, because I don’t understand this at all.
Uh, if I start to look into this a little more, then maybe, yes, there will be some percentage there, well, let’s say, 5-10%.
Because I don't know anything about it yet. It's like, you know, that sapper who checks a minefield with his foot like this.
I am for qualified investing, and not just trying it out as a fun thing.
Try it, how cool. My wife tried it and she liked it. I'm very happy for her. Now she just needs to be transferred to a crypto exchange so that she can do it like a human, not like... Here, guys, I just have to add a disclaimer, please study the risks before you invest. This is generally the background to everything we are saying here. Please study the information. As Ivan says, read the best information in encrypted, or study something more deeply, such as trading, memes, and so on. Ah, but please be aware of the risks.
Well, at the very least it's useful for your results, and at the most it's interesting. Well, that is, try to understand one thing. Well, just go deeper than the first two or three questions in Google.
Just try to explore. When you understand what's going on, it will be much easier and more interesting for you to do this, and not just like, I bought Google shares, but why? I don't know, Google is just cool. Usually this is after 40% has been given in a month. I'm like, "I bought Google shares, [laughter] good job."
Now someone heard that you earned 40% and everyone will go to BenGet to buy.
No, no, no. Guys, my wife made some money, she bought Google shares about a month and a half ago, and now she's up 40%.
Let's probably answer a couple more questions from the chat, because throughout the 46 minutes of our dialogue, people were writing their questions. I will select a few of the most interesting ones.
Ah, yes, for example, from Andrey Sukhin.
Were there times when you wanted to completely dump the scripts and give up everything? The song has gone. What held you back? I think this question is simply close to everyone, to our souls, to our hearts, because we see how unstable the market can be. And share your story.
Look, well, it's probably a standard story. Besides the fact that we were involved not only in crypto, but also in media, right? That is, we had the most, uh, difficult moment. This, in my opinion, was the autumn of 1919, when the bear was in full swing, we had no money, there was no normal audience there, nothing.
And we thought, what are we doing anyway?
Why is this necessary?
And I probably held on, well, Andryukha and I held on to each other, because when I have a really strong breakdown, he comes and supports me, when he is sad, then I come. And with us, it’s like this: well, we supported each other at some point and believed that everything would be fine. I remember, back in Kyiv, we went out onto this bald mountain, or, in short, above the Andreevsky border crossing, and agreed that we would return here as millionaires.
Some year, I don’t remember anymore, it was. Well, in short, the founder's support supported, yes. What I mean is that this is another point to the fact that it is very difficult to carry all of this out alone. Uh, at least you need to unite your buddies, five or 10 people, in a chat and it will be easier. Firstly, because 5-10 people will be able to cover more sectors. That is, you will learn one segment, someone will learn a second segment, and you will gather at a meeting, everyone will bring the best of what they have learned, and you will participate in five segments, and not in one, if you did it alone, or in five, but much better, because everyone has done their own resarch.
Plus there is moral, financial, any kind of support. That is, it is really difficult to transport any thing alone. That's why I was saved by the fact that, yes, Andryukha was there. Well, and probably his wife took him out again. Here are the questions, who is better, a trader wife or Well, that is, the man, during all the time when it didn’t work out or it was hard, never said a single word to me, like, what kind of [ __ ] are you doing? This was also support, well, sort of constant.
Therefore, we move on to the fact that the most important thing is to find a person or people who are close to you in spirit, because of what you do. And this support will get you through any situation. Yes.
Yeah, that's what I think you're doing and we're doing, building a community.
It is clear that we do not always see each other in person in life, but, for example, even such amami are what supports us. Let's probably move on to the next one. A more general question.
Latest hacks in the protocols.
US regulators' freeze restrictions on cryptocurrency. Uh, doesn't this cover up the main idea behind creating crypto?
I think we're talking about decentralization and all that. And so, in the end, the theorem blocks. Well, obviously, for reasons. We won't go into details of the cases there.
Some of the tokens. It seems to me that we are a little bit mistaken about, uh, what the main idea of creating crypto is, because it seems to me that even Satoshi did not imagine that it would be, uh, anonymous guys and it would all be, well, kind of outside the vision of the state.
The goal was to transfer value, well, the Bitcoin whitepaper says to transfer value from one person to another, uh, without the help of intermediaries, without third parties. That is, this is a purely technical update, which is designed to update this cumbersome, ineffective financial machine in the form of banks, financial organizations, and so on. Uh, for me, these are not cypherpunks. Well, I mean, the cypherpunks were just in the beginning, because it wasn't mainstream, it was some kind of geeks who, you know, well, they were like, "We're, uh, pirates." Well, the task was simply to update the financial system. It's happening.
Tesar, well, as a monopolist, yes, he uses these things for himself, like he’s in cahoots with the White House, yes, he’s now building this ballroom for Trump, Tesar is the sponsor there.
They became friends there and bought billions of dollars worth of US government bonds.
Well, that is, they have simply already integrated themselves into this thing so that they won’t get smashed there with all these other things. By the way, we released a video about Tezr History. It's funny how they went from some kind of secret bank on some islands to practically being a partner of the US.
And I think that this does not destroy or cover up the main idea of creating crypto, because the main idea of creating crypto is to update the financial system. This is happening, we see it now, that is, uh, transactions occur without the participation of, uh, banks and all these different things. That is, this entire large financial sector, which received golden parachutes and huge amounts of funding, will become practically unnecessary over time. This is an acceleration of transaction speed, this is the transparency of the same crypto. It's clear that all of this is conditional and there are all sorts of things there, but there are also other things there, but globally this is the main idea of creating crypto and it works. And the fact that there are break-ins there is, well, like they rob a bank too, yes. Well, it’s like this is an integral factor of that, this and this, as it were, human factor. Somewhere there, someone was wiping code, somewhere, someone left a backdoor, somewhere, someone was poking around with some line of code. That is, these are mandatory attributes of a growing industry; when something doesn’t work, we don’t always manage to do it perfectly right away. That is, it’s like this, well, it’s built, right? Well, I think we are not moving away from the basic idea of creating crypto as I see it. Yes.
Thanks for the answer. And let's probably ask another question, uh, one of my favorites always. Book, channel, resource. What influenced you? As in the media, maybe you as a marketer, or perhaps not even as a marketer, but as a co-founder, because you lead people, you say you have 50 people on your team now.
Recommend something interesting.
Listen, these aren't really business books at all. Uh, this is the book Peaceful Warrior by Dan Millman, which is generally about the need to be here and now.
[snorts] Eh, and so there’s a simple, banal world to live in, which, well, it always works in relationships with people. This is the richest man in Babylon. Uh, a short little book that teaches, uh, how to handle money in a kind of parable form. Mm, well, every day something affects me differently. Here, harmozi constantly influences me with his reels and makes me come up with cool offers and think about what can be even better, even better, even better. M Well, in short, I think that the foundation in any profession, in any specialty, is still lower than professional skills. That is, there is a human basis, your basic principles, right? We've done a lot of psychology streams and psychology videos. That is, people think that if everything in their life is bad, or they have unstable relationships, or they are not in harmony with themselves, then they will succeed in crypto. It doesn't work like that. That is, there is the base of the pyramid and there is how you feel in life, and on top of that you can build something successful.
But without this it is impossible. That is, basic psychology. So there's the same principle there: to be, to do, to have, right? People, uh, always want to have something, uh, like, lambos, money, yachts and so on, to do whatever they want, to be a cool, cool dude. But in fact, the opposite is needed. So you have to first be a guy who deserves all of this. That is, you need to change, well, in short, you need to change yourself, your approach, how you behave with others, how you can talk, sell, how you can relax, rest. Well, in short, everything needs to start from the basics. This leads you to the right actions, when you take small steps, learn, acquire skills and then you already have everything you want. Well, that is, basic psychology, simple things like that - this is what you can build some kind of success on. Without this, he will either come and then quickly leave, or not come at all. Well, in short, this is all a short-term story.
or it will come and you will think: "What should I do with this money?" Well, I'm not really that happy at all. I'm going to jump off the bridge.
We'll end the broadcast with a more philosophical conversation. Uh, the reviews are coming, thank you. Here you go, Ivan, teamscript, you're awesome. Let's probably wrap this up.
Say something goodbye to the guys. Eh, this is a really cool, soulful broadcast.
Thanks, guys, for watching to the end.
We will definitely contact everyone who had questions today.
Kate, our community leader, will contact you.
And from myself, I also thank everyone very much for participating. Stay tuned. Those who just came to our channel for the first time.
We often have such broadcasts.
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Here. And, of course, a large number of pools, listings, and promotions. It's all on BitKat. A small advertising rate. Well, Vanya, say the rest of your beautiful words and let's finish.
Ah, so what can I say? Do what you must do to the maximum of what you can do today, without putting it off until tomorrow. And forget about everything else, because what you don’t control, you can’t change. But what you control, fight for it to the end. So, something like this.
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