A Haitian Asked Black Americans THIS… The Debate Got HEATED!

[00:00:02]How's it going?

[00:00:02]>> Hey, how's it going, Mac? What's your ethnicity?

[00:00:06]>> I'm Haitian.

[00:00:07]>> All right. U Mac, you want to address the prompt?

[00:00:12]>> Uh, yeah. Um, black Americans and imaginated immigrants.

[00:00:18]Where do we go from here? Is it unity possibility? I mean, there's always possibility to do a change.

[00:00:31]And the other thing is people always assuming that immigrants want to claim to be black Americans cuz you could ask anybody if they're Jamaican or if they're Haitian, what they will say at the end of day they're Haitian no matter what. So I don't see the issue you guys always be projecting on to Haitians saying that, you know. And another thing is what policies is there that we vote for that put black Americans in a bad place? What is it? So people be on code or know what's going on cuz you guys saying a whole bunch of things when people over here like what you talking about? So if there's a policy, what is it? And I and I'm done from here.

[00:01:25]>> Okay. And hold on, Mac. Um, one thing I can say is Oh. Oh, here it is. One thing I can say, Mac. Um, I think y'all don't know, um, you know, as far as the vote and go and things like that because a lot of y'all are in y'all own enclaves. Y'all not really interwined within the black community. And don't forget, it's it's 50 states here. So, I know a lot of Haitians be concentrated in places like Florida, New York, you know what I mean? So, hold on. Let me see if anybody have a rebuttal. Anybody got an answer? It don't have to just be rebuttals. Anybody have a conversation?

[00:02:05]Cuz I really my goal tonight is to really have a conversation. I hope we all can do that. Everybody who come on this stage, I'm just saying I I've been I I had a couple of mishaps so far, Maroon, but that is still my goal. Okay.

[00:02:20]Well, I wasn't here yet. So, thank God it wasn't me, you know. [laughter] >> Um, so that is the goal moving forward on this live stream. Let's see if we can do it. Hopefully, we can. If we can't, we can't. Go ahead, Maroon.

[00:02:33]>> Well, Miss Love, I think you hit it on the head. A lot of them stay to themselves and they're in their own enclave. So, uh, Mac, how long have you been here in the United States?

[00:02:44]>> Uh, I've been here since I was six.

[00:02:48]and you're like in your 20s, 30s, you Gen X, Gen Z, >> 33.

[00:02:54]>> Okay. So, you're millennial. Um, there's a debt you said. What can you guys vote on? I'll start there. There's a debt that is owed to foundational black Americans, specifically foundational black Americans when it comes to United States government. That is number one thing that you guys need to be out there going and protesting for instead of TPS status with Haitians.

[00:03:15]See, you guys are putting your own you guys have been putting your own needs and wants rather really wants over what is owed to the people who built the country and paved the way for you all to be able to come here. So until that gets paid and that that debt that heavy debt that is over looming over the United States head um we I don't think we can have a helping hand in order to make any kind of unity right with anybody. Cuz a lot of you all keep coming here saying we have no power. or we're not running this country. I think we are, but when it comes to the um debt that is owed, right, that needs to be paid. And then number two is making sure whenever it's situations like Botham John over here in Texas, um you know, the the people's houses got raided by the FBI, you know what I'm saying? because they were stomping down and making sure to change the whole turn of the case when it came to him. And you know what happened at the end of that case? Botham John's parents and family hug the police officer who unal alive their son. So we can't be having any kind of white tea worship no more. We just need to have people that are on code like we were talking about earlier. My bad. Miss Lev had a phone call. But um yeah, we need to make sure that we're getting what's owed to us. We're we're not trying to have any kind of unity without a benefit of you all being here. But I think also too, and one last thing, my last point is if you know, especially when it comes to the Panaffricans, everybody should know that if you if a true Panaffrican should understand that each melanated country should be thriving, like we should be able to do some kind of trade.

[00:04:58]I think that needs to be the new norm is bound uh bo boundaries, borders, and trade uh of some kind of resource. But yeah, I don't I don't when it comes to the whole unity thing, I think right now everyone just needs to calm down with that and uh put that take that off the burner for a while in my opinion.

[00:05:15]All right, go ahead Mac be can't I don't even know him like that. Go ahead Mac.

[00:05:20]You want to respond to that and then wants to say something to you too.

[00:05:26]>> We can't [clears throat] >> can't hear me now.

[00:05:30]>> Yep, you good.

[00:05:31]>> Uh yeah, that's what I was saying. I I agree with you 100%. But that's why I'm saying like it's a whole process. Like the only people that have um the stage on a global stand is um isn't it Nigeria or Ghana?

[00:05:48]>> It's black Americans. We're the ones that even trying to be there.

[00:05:51]>> No, I understand. I understand that. But I'm saying in a global scale when there's certain um people in power that have been voting and and um having having conversation in a global scale like the UN.

[00:06:05]>> That's us. That's foundational black Americans. We've had multiple lawyers, civil rights activists. Malcolm X even was going to the UK to put a law.

[00:06:12]>> Wait a minute. I think he acting like like the Ghana president, you know, the people who over there talking trying to talk on behalf of black Americans over here too. He acting about those countries in on the continent who trying to do that.

[00:06:26]>> But I'm saying we Malcolm X actually had the the >> I understand. I understand it's countries. It's Ghana. Hold on Mac. It's Ghana. And who else spoke on black American business to the UN?

[00:06:40]>> Nigeria, Ghana, most West African countries.

[00:06:43]>> That's what he trying. That's what he asking you about. Who? Like not us. He asking >> Oh, he's asking. I thought you were trying to make a statement.

[00:06:50]>> Uhuh. I know he asking you a question.

[00:06:52]>> Oh yeah. Ghana tried to bring their uh crazy selves up there to the UN and tried to speak tried to speak on behalf of us, but we rejected that.

[00:07:00]>> Okay. But that's what I'm saying. Like there's a lot of things that is being done and is not being credit to you guys due to the fact that it's America, you know, and that always hinder you guys, you know. It's not the fact that uh we don't want that to happen. Like everybody's on board. You could act like you could randomly just go around in the Haitian community and ask them that simple question.

[00:07:26]>> Wait a minute, Matt. No, everybody isn't on board. I got I got hours of streams.

[00:07:30]Well, not hours, but I got lots of streams with melanated immigrants telling us we don't deserve reparations.

[00:07:37]We not getting reparations. And they going they going to vote against our reparations. Okay. So, go ahead, Matt.

[00:07:43]>> So, Okay. So, have you been to a community or does this a one individual person?

[00:07:50]>> Okay. So, I don't know what else I can say here because at this point we have u a Jamaican well he's a Caribbean. I I forgot where he from exactly but uh Byron Donald's. He's running for um governor of Florida right now. Yeah. And he also was running didn't he run for president or vice president? And he also ran for vice president. He he uh sits there and he says uh blatantly in front of the world that black Americans he don't support reparations for black Americans >> and he running for vice president of the United States of America. So don't you know I'm going try to be smooth with you but please don't act like we have we haven't researched all this. We already know everything. You know what I mean?

[00:08:37]So we saying everything for a reason.

[00:08:39]Just because every single one don't do it. It's the powerful people in these groups that think not powerful cuz they powerless actually cuz they still immigrants. So, but still they have a say in our politics. And the problem is Mac, we don't hear you guys fellow immigrants calling it out where where we can even notice that y'all don't support it. Okay. So, um go ahead, man.

[00:09:05]>> Then that's the thing like those things need to be said because Nobody really talking about it like that, you know. So that's what I'm saying.

[00:09:16]>> But see, that's what I mean also, Matt.

[00:09:18]I'm not disagreeing. Hold on. Hold on, Matt. That's what I'm saying, too.

[00:09:22]Ignorance is no longer an excuse because had y'all not been in y'all enclaves and y'all had had uh like close ties with black Americans, we've we've been talking about that for um two years now.

[00:09:36]We've been talking about all these complaints, naming names because y'all don't have special names for y'all tether tether class. We we've been saying names. We've been talking people who um is um riders with black Americans, they know, but for some reason it's such a minute amount of them that nobody else hears anything. So y'all in y'all own little enclaves living y'all the lives of a Haitian, the lives of a Jamaican. Ain't worried about black Americans business. Cuz if you was, you would know everything that we got to say already that you thinking about that that like like that you acting like you don't know nothing about. You would know these things cuz we've been shouting it to the roof.

[00:10:18]So you've came out your enclave to have a con a conversation, but you know it's probably, you know what I mean? I don't know. Isa go ahead. I don't know what else to say.

[00:10:30]>> Yeah. I just wanted to ask something specifically uh in unification what benefits would uh black Americans get with unifying Haitian with unifying with Haitians.

[00:10:55]Am I tripping?

[00:10:56]>> Are you the one to come off mute?

[00:10:58]>> Oh, I thought the live was like glitch or something. Mac.

[00:11:05]>> Yeah. I mean, I said what I said though.

[00:11:07]>> Okay. And we said what we said, Mac.

[00:11:09]>> Got nothing to say.

[00:11:11]>> All right. But remember, Mac, I'mma let you go. But remember, ignorance is no excuse.

[00:11:18]All right, Mac. [sighs] Yeah.