Peterson correctly asserts that scientific truth is built on systematic methodology rather than the flawed intuition of direct observation. This is a sharp reminder that understanding the universe requires moving beyond the limits of the naked eye.
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So, I don't know why you don't debate scholars cuz >> uh they're not on Tik Tok for the most part.
>> Sorry.
>> I highly doubt uh that virtually any of them are on Tik Tok.
But what's what's the point in debating people who don't don't know their stuff?
>> Are you a scholar?
>> Um, I'm pretty knowledgeable.
>> So, that's a no. So, why should I talk to you?
>> My IQ is way higher than yours, that's why.
>> Oh, I doubt that. I took a wonderlick test the other day actually and uh I got 37 out of So you get 12 minutes to do 50 questions. I scored a 37 but I only got to 41 of the questions because I spent a really long time on this one question.
I'm actually pissed. I'm thinking of going back to the college and retaking it >> and just cuz I think I could have got to all of the questions. So maybe I could have scored like a 43 uh on it. So that would be like that's like 95th percentile area. You want to take a wonderlick test here. Take a wonderlick test right now. Just you can do them online.
>> Believe the earth isn't flat and big bang is is >> here. Take a wonderlick. Turn your camera on. Take a wonderlick test right now. It's literally 12 minutes uh is the maximum and then and then it stops. If you score better than a 37, I'll kill myself. Go ahead.
>> Why? Why do you not >> turn your camera on, pull up your computer, take a free take a wonderlick test online because you claimed your IQ is way higher than mine. Go ahead.
>> I I just told you.
>> What did you tell me?
>> I don't have enough followers to turn my camera on.
>> Ask me any any math question.
>> Just take the test. Just take the test anyway.
>> I'm way smarter than you. Ask Ask me any math question.
Um, >> you believe that yours isn't isn't flat and I'm I guarantee I know better math than you.
>> You know better math than me or did you or were you doing caveman talk? I know better math than you. That means you're not better at math than I am. Since you're a flatearther, I'm inclined to think that you were doing caveman language. So, were you saying I know better than math than you?
I said I'm better I'm better at math than you.
>> Sure. So, uh, since you have a Tik Tok account, you can make videos. So, record on your phone you taking a Wonderlick test online >> and then Wonderlick.
>> Wonderlick. All right.
>> Well, be before that, why why don't you debate me on the on the flat earth? cuz you're not a scholar. So there's no point in debating people that aren't scholars.
>> I'm better at math than you, though.
>> I doubt that.
>> I guarantee I am.
>> Okay.
>> And and the fact that you think your your ability is so good that that there can't be anyone with a superior intellect than you, that just shows how >> I'm sure there are plenty of them, but it ain't you.
>> What? Dude, you got 37, >> buddy. I literally I literally took a um a budget version of an IQ test.
>> Embarrassing.
>> And no, it doesn't give you an actual IQ score, but you know, broadly it can it can test for the it can >> you you can kind of uh not equivocate, but you know, approximate at least where you are compared to others. And I'm pretty sure a 37 out of 50 >> is like in the 95th percentile. So >> like I I never go around talking about how smart I am, but you know when an idiot like you tries to say uh that that I'm an idiot. Now I'm going to give you the data that shows that I'm not.
>> 95th percentile on a on a easy test is not >> What does 95th percentile mean?
Well, it means you're better scored than 95% of the people who took the test.
>> Chat, it actually knows what that means.
I'm impressed. Um, so you can claim that the Wonderlick test is easy. That's fine. But still, the average score is only about 20 or 25.
>> Dude, someone asked in the chat, how do you how do you calculate gravity? That's that's pretty simple. You just measure the acceleration towards the ground.
>> Okay. So, you believe that gravity exists. Okay. I thought you were a flat earth. I know I don't the method methodology. I don't believe in >> you just presupposed that gravity is real with that answer.
>> Um I know the methodology. I can debate you on why it don't exist.
>> If it doesn't exist, then it can't be calculated, but you just admitted that it can be calculated.
>> Well, I believe it's faked and they have pretty sophisticated methods of doing that. Dude, you're not you're not >> I knew a girl named Kate that I fisted once.
What?
>> Nothing.
>> Dude, you're not good enough at method to be me on this. Even like even if you weren't even if your worldview Let's just even though it's not. Let's just suppose your world view is is factual, you would not win this debate against me cuz your your IQ is not good. It's not that high. It's probably aroundund 105. I'd say >> 105 is above average. So >> it it it's probably around there though, like >> Okay. So I have I have at least an above average IQ.
>> Um so you use and you use like a 130 and mine is probably around 160 I'd say.
>> Take a wonderlick test and post the video and if you do better than me, I'll kill myself. Okay.
I I sure hope you don't because God loves you and Jesus died for us.
>> Good luck.
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The That's what a scientific theory is.
Yeah, but a scientific theory is not a fact. That's just >> Yes, it is.
>> It's that's not what a No, that that's not in the definition of a dictionary.
No, >> a fact is something I looked up the definition. A fact is something known to be true. Science is our most powerful tool we've ever developed for developing or for uh gaining knowledge. Something is true if it corresponds with reality.
That's the version of true I like to use at least. Uh, all science ever does is uncover underlying mechanisms of the universe that match reality. All it ever does is give us facts, produce information that we know to be true.
You're made of atoms. So is this phone.
So is the Earth. The Earth orbits the Sun. The Earth is broken up into tectonic plates.
uh just all countless scientific facts that you know are facts and you don't spend any time quibbling over. All of those things are that you choose to deny some of them for like personal reasons.
It conflicts with your faith or something like that. I don't know. But uh it's just you're like I don't say this to be mean, but you're just a hypocrite.
I'm not I'm not being a hypocrite. I'm just saying there's no way that humans with the tools that we have today and the research and things that we are capable of doing today, there's no way that we could look at what happened millions or billions of years ago according to scientists and say that the big bang theory is what happened.
Second, I'll say this.
>> Why >> uh in the Bible talks about >> why can we not do that?
>> How Okay, so how how did they if you're saying that the Big Bang theory is a fact, how did they prove that the Big Bang theory was 100% true and that >> it's literally literally still >> create the Earth. Uh, if Santa Claus Well, okay. We we'll come we can come back to Santa Claus.
>> How do you think we can know that anything happened yesterday?
>> Yes, we can know things that happened yesterday. But >> what is the amount of time where we magically stop being able to know that anything happened >> before human existence?
>> Why would you say that?
How How are we supposed to know something that happened before humans were even a thing?
>> I can know that something happened yesterday even though there weren't any humans even there when it happened.
>> Okay. But can you see with your own eyes and hear with your own ears and everything else? The Big Bang Theory, that's not possible. So there's no way.
You were talking about knowledge having to be 100% factual. Human senses, our human senses are extremely fallible. In fact, we know that eyewitness testimony is the most inconsistent form of evidence uh that exists. So, a human being there is better than nothing, but it's far worse than what the scientific methods have produced for us. Thanks to science, we now know things that a human just sitting around looking at the world could never know. Like the existence of exotic forms of matter or types of electromagnetic radiation that we can't see. I mean, [ __ ] the existence of electromagnetic radiation. We could always see things, but we didn't know what the hell was going on. Why is blue blue? That's a that's an answer that we now know thanks to science. So >> I I I still am kind of lost at the fact like if humans were not around to study the Big Bang theory and you can't it's not like we have a time machine. You can't go back in time to when the Big Bang happened and watch it or study it or anything like that. I mean they can ex they can study the expansion of the universe but they can't just rewind all of that and say that it started from nothing and then just >> the thing we don't think that it started from nothing but this is a little bit beside the point if we can know what happened yesterday the process that we're going to use to determine what happened yesterday is going to be the exact same kind of process that we can use to study what happened the day before yesterday and the day before that all the way up to uh the uh earliest stages of the universe.
>> Okay. Well, let me let me get to my uh second point and I'll let you uh have somebody else on. Uh I appreciate the you taking the time and actually accepting my request. I don't get a lot of people like you accept my request.
Um, second, and now I haven't I haven't read the Bible cover to cover or anything like that, but I have read the part where it talks about in the beginning and God said, "Let there be light and everything." Does that not kind of describe exactly what the Big Bang Theory is?
>> No. Um, uh, no. For for like a lot of reasons. I mean in the like with the big bang in the initial stages like if if you look at the timeline of what is happening in the Bible um the earth already exists and God begins forming it uh he he creates uh he gives the earth form because the the chaotic waters already exist the earth is already there that's what it says uh and then you get the timeline of events the I read this really interesting book a little while back and it talks about the creation week and I can't remember what he says the separating light from darkness is supposed to be a reference to but it made perfect sense. I'm really pissed that I can't remember what it was. I want to say it was something like order from chaos because I mean God creates like he says let there be light at the beginning but then the stars aren't even created until several days later and it's like well wait well then what's the light at the beginning I got to I got to >> I think I think I think that I think that God would have been the light in that case because he says that I am the light you know >> the way the truth well >> yeah but >> I think >> but But that way that quote is from that quote is from centuries after the Genesis tradition. You can't you can't claim that the Genesis authors were thinking of what somebody else hundreds of years later was thinking. That's just plainly not the case. But like one of the big problems is the order of events.
Earth already exists. Uh the the plants are created before the sun is even created. Uh the sun's created after the earth. like none of the things chronologically match up at all. Um, and so the whole thing like it it gets all of the order of events wrong. Um, and even if even if we're going to be charitable and say the timeline, like a day in Genesis isn't really a day, which I think is a terrible argument. But even if you're going to say that the the timeline for Genesis is as flexible as we want it to be, the sequence has to be correct in order for it to match the Big Bang. And it gets the sequence totally wrong. There's no Earth at the beginning of the Big Bang. Uh, the stars don't come after the Earth in our model of the universe. Absolutely not.
>> Okay. Well, I I'll let you move on to somebody else. I I think that uh I think I would have to do more research on what the Big Bang Theory and all of that stuff actually is. Um, I definitely need to read the Bible more for my own personal religious reasons, but uh I will uh pray for you and hopefully in a few months whenever I uh do some more research and everything, then uh I'll join your live again and we'll have further discussion.
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