The Valley Deep Dive S3 E16 Part 2: One Ball, Two Brides, Three Hundred Attempts To Save Janet

[00:00:00]Welcome back to Showmance, the number one show on YouTube doing deep dives on shows with no depth. And this is part two of episode 16 of The Valley. We are starting off with the dumbest, most nothing burger of a scene. It's uh Danny's vasectomy and he walks in thinking that he only needs to get one ball done. So, either I don't understand what happens in a vasectomy and they're only snipping one ball or maybe Danny just has one ball. Either way, I don't care.

[00:00:30]>> Two things. Um, I >> Yeah, get it. Two things. Two balls.

[00:00:35]>> Balls.

[00:00:36]>> I switched drinks. Um, I'm drinking water. But, uh, this my cup is in honor of Pat Clark. It's my master's cup.

[00:00:42]Cheers to Pat Clark in the golfing.

[00:00:43]>> Is the Masters happening right now?

[00:00:45][clears throat] >> Okay.

[00:00:46]>> But it's a anytime.

[00:00:48]You know what is happening this week is British Open. Oh, thank God. I've been waiting all year for that.

[00:00:53]>> Probably my least favorite major to be honest, Pat.

[00:00:56]>> It's my second least favorite major.

[00:00:58]>> But second, um, not going to lie, I kind of forgot.

[00:01:04]Okay, the second thing, [laughter] the second thing is who goes into a doctor's office where there's a female nurse.

[00:01:13]>> Oh god.

[00:01:15]>> And says, "Let's get naked."

[00:01:19]Creepy guy.

[00:01:20]>> Oh god.

[00:01:21]>> Creepy guy. Maybe maybe not creepy guy.

[00:01:24]Maybe family man.

[00:01:25]>> So bad. Have you never met a dude like this that wasn't trying to actually physically nail everyone, but just like >> thought he was like like just a met guy.

[00:01:36]I met the the the cheesy guy and I've met creepy guy. Danny's cheapy cheap cheepy creepy cheesy guy. Uh the the nurse shaves his balls and then he gets his laughing gas and he's literally in the middle of surgery still trying to make terrible jokes.

[00:01:54]>> Yeah.

[00:01:54]>> It's just this was a penal uh what?

[00:01:58]>> Is this a penal code violation? Get it done.

[00:02:00]>> A penal reduction. Yeah.

[00:02:02]>> The only funny thing the only one was the trumpet.

[00:02:06]>> No, it wasn't.

[00:02:07]>> Is a little bit funny.

[00:02:08]>> He's just not funny. He's so brutal.

[00:02:11]>> That's what you thought was funny. of all the f like if [laughter] I had to give a little bit. I'm trying to be I'm trying to be positive.

[00:02:18]>> After the vasectomy, we go to LA's sober birthday dinner. It's Zach, Jasmine, Kristen, Michelle, Brit, Lala, and Janet. Lala um shows up and first she says, you know, thank you so much for coming. I'm a little up and down because I had to put Lily down today. Um, and then she very quickly gets into saying her favorite part of the trip was Zach's birthday. We note how great Zach's hair is looking. He's he's got such a lush pad of hair. You can't even see this the mar the the scar or the stitches. Um, Janet then brings up how she likes Lacy now. Something hit me about Janet in this scene and I'm wondering if you Okay, but I I'm so curious if you're going to agree with this or if we're saying the same thing. um how she likes Lacy now and they started following each other on Instagram. That is so important to her. It's triggering to me.

[00:03:10]>> Says everything.

[00:03:11]>> THAT'S RIGHT. THAT then this is the point I'm gonna make. Oh my god. I hope we're making the same point. Um we follow each other on Instagram now. And as soon as she talked about that and as soon as I saw her at the table cheesing so hard next to Lacy, I was like, "Oh my god, this is it. You are so desperate to be liked. Mhm.

[00:03:30]>> You are that kid that will do something bad so you can save the day so everyone likes you. And you didn't necessarily even want to do the bad thing. You just wanted everyone to pay attention to you and finally look give you the time a day. And the fact that now Lacy, who everyone else likes, is the popular girl and she's gonna follow me.

[00:03:53]>> Screw Michelle, right? I Janet, you're all sorts of >> Was that though what you were thinking when you saw that?

[00:04:00]>> So I I think that Janet collects friends like like she this is a game to her.

[00:04:06]This is Dave and Busters. She's collecting friends like she's collecting those little pods that you get in the >> the claw things and like the games where you're like a scavenger hunt. Yeah.

[00:04:15]>> She's figured out who the popular kids are. That's why she's been going for Zach so hard because Zach was a glue of other people. if Zach comes, then if you build it, they will come. So, she picked Lacy, she picked Zach. Um, and then even when later we see her with Jesse, she's cheesing so hard and she's not cool. She doesn't know how to be like, I'm just gonna what do they do like in the um like in Boiler Room? I'm going to give you a little idea. I'm going to call you on Monday and see what you think about my idea. Like, she's she's she's on the move. She's on the hunt. She's pursuing people and and picking them up like they are chess pieces because she just wants to win this so bad. And she's on a good roll right now. She just never knows how to like go chill it out for a minute. Be cool. Be cool. I'm breezy. I'm breezy.

[00:05:05]You know, she has no control over that.

[00:05:07]She's so transparent. This is all a game. She doesn't care about you. She's not trying to be your real friend. She's just trying to win against Kristen and and become like get back on top and and >> I agree. But I think the road to Janet getting there in her life was being a deeply insecure wanting to be liked kid. And then I think that's how she was like, "Oh, okay. These people are famous. Let me go to this town. Let me be let me happen to be at this place. Let me befriend them."

[00:05:39]and like, oh, now you're gonna see like, I'm cool. I'm valuable. I really think it stems from a deep insecurity and need to be >> definitely deep insecurity and needs to be liked.

[00:05:51]To need to be liked, I I would assume that like if you finally got the friends, you would treat them well. But that's why like that's why I'm stuck on like the the game pieces >> thing because it's like >> But you know how there's different brands of stuff, right? where there's someone who needs to be liked and they will forever just lick the boot that kicks them. They will pick you up and drop you off at the airport. They'll help you. They'll do all that stuff, right?

[00:06:16]>> Then there's that person and this is I think from what you're saying uh is where Jan the category Janet falls into.

[00:06:22]She's comes from a a place of uh insecurity and the the wanting to be liked as a kid and then as she's gotten over it's turned into oh now and now I'm going to be the powerful one. Yeah.

[00:06:36]>> I'm going to usurp the throne.

[00:06:38]>> Yeah. I don't know. She has a screw loose and I just think everyone who who she's uh pursuing if she's in pursuit of you I would just keep one eye open like Yeah. I just be like why? What's going on? What do you want? Like because she gets right into like so I think we should get something on the books and it's like if that's me like I I I will call >> I never know what to say in that. No, I don't I don't even want to give you my phone number like much less get something on the books with you or whatever. But >> happened at the end of this conversation when she was like, "Oh, we should do a double date." And Jesse was like, "Oh, we're not there yet. We do baby steps."

[00:07:15]>> That's right. That's the scene. Yeah.

[00:07:17]That Yeah. She just you you got and and the follows she's she's acting like they're all jokes. They're everything to her.

[00:07:26]>> It's everything because now one more check mark person on this show is now following her. I I didn't know that uh Lacy was following her.

[00:07:35]>> And that if I would have saw that, I would have I would have literally been like >> something coming like did did Janet turn out to be okay? Like because Lacy doesn't see >> I wonder if she still is.

[00:07:46]>> I wonder if she is. Okay. Well, look, >> I could see her still follow be following her, even if it's just because Lyn Lacy's new.

[00:07:53]>> Well, no, because so much of [ __ ] is optics.

[00:07:57]>> Yeah.

[00:07:57]>> So, she knows, oh, no, all of these people are following me. Like, no, we're pretty cool. Even if we're not like, we're getting there, but we follow each other, so it's fine. It's it's a >> Or it might give you the idea to be like, this is all fake. It's look at they're just doing this for drama.

[00:08:11]They're actually friends. Like, some people would think that. Like it's even it it really actually works. It's even one reason why like I would so often be like I just don't think that Danny could be that bad. He has so many friends. So many people like him and they're the people that I like. Lacy likes him. Zach likes him. Kristen likes him. Luke likes him. Jesse likes him. Like these are my people. So like it's not like, you know, oh Michelle likes her. Like what do I like? Who cares what Michelle likes? You know, like I'm I'm starting to like Michelle. But so an optic like that could really be like maybe she's not so bad. Lacy's following her. She's not really doesn't really dick around with people like that.

[00:08:48]>> We limit the number of followers shown for certain metaverified and business accounts. So, I can't tell. Wait, what?

[00:08:58]I can't look to see if Janet follows her because they they limit it. They won't let me see it. She's Janet Elizabeth Caperna. Do we really need your middle name on there? Just Janet Caperna is fine. I don't know. I'm also just picking at her because she annoys me.

[00:09:14]>> I know I She doesn't annoy me. I think she's a horrible person. [laughter] >> Huh? I'm gonna keep saying that because I don't want people to think that I'm just like I have a bad feeling and we're going to wait and see if I'm right. But like >> you love Janet.

[00:09:24]>> I have a real real gut feeling that this is a bad apple.

[00:09:28]>> You're thinking justice for Janet.

[00:09:30]>> Thinking justice for the world from Janet. Justice from Janet. Speaking of the Instagram of it all, they bring up the Zach losing the bet. He has to follow Janet and then after 48 hours he unfollows her. I back that Zach. I understand that behavior. Yeah. Because to me, I don't especially and Nia, you know what I mean? As an Aquarian, I I don't don't tell me what to do and don't force like if I don't want this person's energy in my feed, then I don't want to follow them. And blocking them is not like I don't want to mute them. I don't want to give off the perception that we are more than what we are friendship wise. So just if I want to unfollow you, I can unfollow you. And like we're not cool yet, Janet. So just slow your roll.

[00:10:15]And also if you didn't say anything, then maybe I would have the thought of, oh, she is growing because the old Janet would have brought this up. She would have made a mountain out of a molehill.

[00:10:27]We would have had to dissect it. And here we are dissecting it.

[00:10:30]>> Yeah. And right when she says to him, I'm She's like, "Whatever. Follow me.

[00:10:33]Don't follow me. I don't care." Also, what did I even do to you again? You're just an idiot, Janet. You're just an [ __ ] You've been an [ __ ] to everyone that he knows. And honestly, Zach sees it right through that boy.

[00:10:44]Zach is the type to be like, I know why you want that follow because it's going to stack in your favor. It's going to make people give us like Zach is is is in on those things. Like he totally gets that. So, he was like, "No, I'm not sticking around for this. Like, I lost a bet, so I did it. Waited two days and then I'm I'm out. Like, and I'm not going to be bullied into being your friend, you idiot."

[00:11:05]Michelle says, "I think when you were in," after she says like that was petty, which I I don't agree that it was petty, but she said, "When you I think when Yeah, exactly. when you and Janet are alone, I think you guys have good times." And when they were flashing back to every single one of the things that they deemed as a good time, when I was watching Zach, I did not see someone having a good time. I saw someone trying to be polite, but trying to keep someone at arms length and not really let them in. When she's like, "No, cuz we're friends now, right?" He didn't even say like, "Oh, yeah, totally." He's He's not having fun. He They're not >> keying in him just jumping into wanting to jump into a relationship with her again. That's how I read it.

[00:11:43]>> Yeah. He And he knows ex when she's saying that, he just knows exactly what she's doing. Like, you're just trying to get me to agree. It's on camera. So, everyone goes, "Oh, they're friends again. Oh, they're following each other again. Oh, they're joking about the she's going to be the surrogate for his baby. Maybe that's real. They are looking to have a baby one day or like whatever." like he's just he's so hip on what her agenda is. And I I just I love that he's like, "No, I'm not giving that to you."

[00:12:07]>> And what's so funny is that in this respect, she does not respect boundaries.

[00:12:11]>> Hell no. She's the worst. Like that's what I'm telling you people. She does not care about you. If she's pursuing you, it's just cuz you're you're a gold chip. That's it.

[00:12:20]>> Yeah. And so even when if Zach says, "I don't want to follow you." Like, okay.

[00:12:24]And she she said this is the thing. This is why I think people get fooled by her because she might say at the table like >> it's fine. It's fine.

[00:12:33]>> And then in her reunion, she's like, "And what did I even do to you anyway?"

[00:12:36]It's like, and she didn't say, "I'm using artistic license." But it was the same thing in the beginning when she was going to go apologize to Nia or have some sort of conversation where she wanted to make headway. And then when she didn't get when Nia didn't bite and she didn't get anything from her, she walked away and she's on a hot mic being like, "I don't even want to be her friend." Exactly. It's like, right.

[00:12:52]That's I would have more respect for you if you just were >> who you are.

[00:12:58]>> Yeah.

[00:12:58]>> You know, just say that stuff directly to the person or whatever. Um, so then they get into the Kristen Lala of it all.

[00:13:08]>> And Lala says, >> "You're in a place with," she's saying this to Kristen, "you're in a place with Janet that you won't budge, but when do we allow her to evolve and grow?" But, you know, when do we allow people to evolve and grow from their mistakes?

[00:13:20]Kristen says, "Here's the thing. I don't trust Janet and I don't know I I I don't think I know who you are. Um because you like to hurt people and be mean to people." And so I would imagine if I were Kristen, sure, in time, if you consistently show up regardless of me forgiving you or any of that stuff, if you just It's like when people are in 12step programs and they make amends and they want to have someone in their life again, they don't bully them into doing it. They just say, "I'm so what?

[00:13:59]>> That's funny." Oh, like I'm so sorry that I abandoned you or that I, you know, whatever. Took your car without whatever the thing is.

[00:14:08]>> Sold your car.

[00:14:09]>> Sold your car when you loan it to me.

[00:14:10]>> That's right. Or when you didn't loan it to me.

[00:14:12]>> Also didn't loan it to me.

[00:14:13]>> One car and a bike.

[00:14:15]>> You already have a new one. How many cars do you need?

[00:14:18]>> That way you got insurance.

[00:14:19]>> But they they apologize and then they just keep showing up and hope that in time you will see it's been a year. It's been two years. this is who I am. I was in a bad spot. I was sick. And then you gain people's trust back. It has been no time at all. It doesn't look like she's changed her ways. She hasn't. She's only shown that she has not.

[00:14:43]>> But in any way that someone could argue she has changed her way to like sit down and say, you know, all the stuff she says to Jesse later that we will get into, it's >> no one's reading it as truthful. And you know what? You have a track record with these people. So they can they are allowed to not believe that it's truthful until you prove them wrong by [snorts] showing up as someone who has grown. And she hasn't done that >> not even once >> one iota to me.

[00:15:10]>> No, she hasn't. And there's there were a lot of girls girls that we really like and that we thought had, you know, good uh detection systems. You know, they were all friends with Amanda Bula for a very long time until one day they realize, "Oh, actually friendship means absolutely nothing to her." And now they're all out on her and now they all have their stories of like, you know, and they look back at all the things.

[00:15:37]And I'm telling you, I feel like Lala is is so blinded by by Janet, like by you know how Amanda would always be like, "Oh, I just I just feel like I'm not worth anything."

[00:15:49]to like get someone to be like, "Oh my god, you're worth everything." Just feel like I'm never going to get any better if I leave. You have to leave him. You could get so much better. Oh my god.

[00:15:58]Really? I'll help you move. I'll call the U-Haul. Like that's what >> By the way, you left him and you didn't get better because you're with W.

[00:16:04]>> Yes. And now this is that that's what Janet is. I just I keep trying and trying them. I just I don't know what else I could do. And and Lala's like, you have been really trying for a long time now. Like I'm gonna help you with this. Everybody wants to help this loser because she's just like pulling this victim card, but like they're just in different ways. So, I just want to say that a lot of people like Amanda, a lot of us obviously saw that like something ain't right with her, but like she was so no nothing who gives a [ __ ] that like >> and Kyle was so loud.

[00:16:32]>> Yeah. And Kyle was so loud that just like who cares, whatever. I'm not like I don't I wasn't spending time on her. I just think that that's happening right in front of these girls again in just a different way because they think like god she's right because all of her all of her stories are all like I I left him a message. He I guess he unfollowed me.

[00:16:48]I couldn't even send the DM because guess we're not following each other.

[00:16:51]>> Do you remember the last two seasons? I kept >> send him a nice thank you card. Just couldn't.

[00:16:55]>> I just kept saying like she's just the ultimate pearl clutcher.

[00:16:58]>> Yeah.

[00:16:59]>> She's still pearl pearl clutching but just in a different tone.

[00:17:03]>> It's the same thing, different shade.

[00:17:06]the like fine, you don't have to because now it's like >> maybe don't talk about your friends like that. I don't know.

[00:17:11]>> I'm just gonna be this demure just >> Yeah. And that's when he was like because Mike was like, "Oh my god, that was so stupid when Kristen like made fun of her and and imitated her." And I said it was only stupid because Kristen is a shitty imitation. But like that is like when whenever I'm hearing Janet, that's what I hear going.

[00:17:29]or when she was on the after show and they said, um, why why do you think that do you think that Kristen has blind loyalty to Nia? And she goes, I just wish that I just wish that Kristen would have blind loyalty for principle and not for people, which just told again told me everything like I hope that your principles keep you nice and warm throughout your life. You with your principles loyalty to Michelle with Lacy.

[00:17:54]>> Oh yeah. Yeah. Kristen still says that Janet did call Michelle a racist because she was voting for something. I don't know if like I can't remember what specifically it was because I actually thought that the vote was maybe for like bathrooms but then like so I don't know why she'd be a racist but >> Well, no because I think it was trans stuff, >> right? But how are you racist if like you're transphobic or >> Oh, I think maybe she just mislabeled it like >> but I still Kristen's never been wrong.

[00:18:25]So Lala says to Kristen after she says, you know, I just don't trust you. I don't feel like I know you. Blah blah blah. Lala says, you can't say that because I told you how Danny spoke to me and you said that's not your experience.

[00:18:36]Lala thinks that Kristen having this just crazy overwhelming support for Danny and Nia is because she's living in the comments section, which just doesn't track. Like I I always thought Lala was a better arguer than this because I just never thought Kristen I I don't remember her being that person.

[00:18:58]>> She's not. But also Kristen and Janet were having their issues in season one.

[00:19:02]There was no comment section. Like there was the show hadn't even aired. So like the the beefs that they were having were all organic.

[00:19:12]And Janet was the one that didn't like Kristen. She was always like I Kristen doesn't like it when you put up a boundary.

[00:19:18]>> Janet.

[00:19:20]Dan, do you know anything about boundaries? Like, you've literally pissed on seven of them in just this episode. So, >> I I don't know. Lala, you are so blinded by this [ __ ] right now. And you're not like, you're a tough [ __ ] I don't >> This is This is a savior thing. It's It's a thousand%. There's nothing else for you here.

[00:19:38]>> Janet ends the scene by saying, "It's fine. You can feel this way, but I need everyone to know that this is why the group is shattered. I'm trying.

[00:19:47]>> Just because you said it doesn't make it true. of that is like you can't just leave everybody with that and go well she told us what what it what we have to know what we all can't argue with we can all argue with it it's shattered because you're an [ __ ] at the top when you were talking about like Lala's lying to Kristen why aren't you friends with her and it's like because she did all these things and it's hard to let go of these things no I I'm not letting her back in it's been nothing good and she's been a completely different person and it was after a camera started rolling so >> don't you think though because of that exact situation that you're talking about. Kristen should have used the addict example because LA's asking the question and she could have said, "La, when you were getting sober and you had to make amends to all these different people in your life, you didn't just say sorry and everyone rolled over. You had to show up and show out and be like, look, I've changed." And you can't bully someone into witnessing your change or accepting your change. They're going to do it on their own accord when they're ready. And you know that because you live that. I don't feel that from Janet yet. So, if she wants me to to trust her, she's got to earn that trust back the way you earn that trust back with people in your life. That's what she should have done.

[00:20:55]>> It's that simple. And that is uh I'm going to cut that short. I'm going to ask everyone to Kristen in it so that she knows it next time around. It really is the perfect exact thing to say.

[00:21:06]>> I do feel that doesn't even know that yet. It's weird. It's weird that we even have to tell her that.

[00:21:12]>> So, Brit threw the party. She's get gotten there early to check on everything. She looks beautiful.

[00:21:17]Everyone arrives. Tom says KK won't be here tonight.

[00:21:21]>> Why?

[00:21:22]>> I know they This is Mike's rule that like if they're showing it to you, they're showing it to you for a reason.

[00:21:27]I don't think cuz he went out of his way to be like, "Oh, no." Did you see? He goes, "Oh, she's just landing. She's actually home." I think she just got home. She's home. Like he stuttered over it. And then uh they said, "Will she be at the Halloween party?" and he said, "I think so, but she's going to have to go to the airport right after that and she'll have to go in some wacky costume." So, I don't know if he wants her around these people is what I'm >> gleaning from that.

[00:21:52]>> I could understand that actually because it's especially at this point in time, it's been such a [ __ ] show.

[00:21:59]>> Yes, that's exactly right.

[00:22:00]>> Then the girls are over in another area um and they kind of make a little toast to Jasmine and Melissa and LA says, "This I actually think is really funny."

[00:22:08]She goes, "Whenever I go to an event like this for straight people, I have this clock going on in my head thinking this is going to last not too long."

[00:22:16]>> And then now I'm here with this lovely lesbian couple and I'm thinking they're going to make it.

[00:22:21]>> Yeah.

[00:22:21]>> And it is true. I I feel like there is a I don't know, maybe it's just still new for all of us to be able to go to >> um same-sex marriages that we just aren't tarnished yet.

[00:22:33]>> Yeah. thinking that like it's all going to end because we've seen the Straits just blow up marriage after marriage for centuries now.

[00:22:41]>> Michelle then brings up that she was annoyed that she had to sit uh you know next to Zach and hear him ramble on for 30 minutes about all the Instagram stuff. Um, and then Lala says she's basically she says she's yet to get an answer from Zach or Kristen that just like satisfies Lala for her to drop this bone as to what Janet did to them and why they can't forgive her. And this is a headscratcher for me because I feel like Paula, you do get it. I feel like you're choosing not to get it because you're backing this horse >> because you got in this car ride and now you're gonna drive it off if it has to drive off the cliff. You're not gonna stop driving it until like the mission is accomplished. It's this ego thing.

[00:23:26]It's the savior thing. Like I I know that I must sound like a broken record, but like this is just this whole thing is new for me with Lola. I never I thought she was perfect and now I'm just like dying to figure this out. And so I'm I'm I'm noticing everything that I never noticed before. There is some deep issues happening.

[00:23:43]>> I'm gonna need some clarity, Lala.

[00:23:44]>> Yeah, I just Yeah, there's I'm I I I'm noticing them all now. Um and yeah, I don't I I don't know.

[00:23:51]>> We now have the arrival of the brides and Jasmine's mom, Karen. Um they both looked really beautiful. I thought Jasmine and Melissa looked stunning. Um, they're they're both so beautiful that it's such a shame that two eggs can't make a baby because you really what a greatl looking kid >> if both of their features were in it.

[00:24:12]>> Can you soon enough though? Isn't that >> There's hope in that. [laughter] Okay. Um, they're super touched by the event. They uh say thank you to Britney. Lacy asks Kristen, "How did last night go?"

[00:24:28]Kristen told uh Janet that we can coexist. Lacy said that's fine. As Jesse walks up and she goes, "Look, we coexist." And then uh Kristen brings up that Janet said, "What did I do to you in the last year?" And Lacy said, "That's not a fair argument because one could argue what did Danny do to her and we've been listening to it for a year."

[00:24:48]Mhm.

[00:24:49]>> And this is why I would really love Lacy to get in the ring with Janet because she does communicate really clearly and that is a great she obviously knows about what uh she said to what Janet said to Jesse. So clearly she knows she has a history with essay. Um and she still said that. So, I think she would be able to just have a good thoughtful conversation as to maybe this is why you're not understanding that this is not the road for you to be going down, Janet. You got to let this go because it is it is what's dividing the group. No matter you say, "I'm trying, but I'm trying. Natalie, >> and that's all I can do. I've done what I can do, and I just have to sit back and let it happen now. Please, you never sat back and let anything happen in your whole life."

[00:25:38]>> Correct. Didn't we say something about her a few episodes ago? But we were like, she's just got that Daria energy, except Daria was cool.

[00:25:44]>> And she really does. Like in every scene, like her posture is always like >> like when she's sitting there, it's like her corsets digging into her skin cuz she's not just >> like Lala sits and talks and presents, right? Obviously, so does Nia because Nia is a beauty queen. Yeah.

[00:25:59]>> I I think maybe uh I can't remember if Kristen does or doesn't just because I feel like she's wearing a lot of like very like flowy things now, so I can't really tell her posture.

[00:26:07]>> She's kind of a slob in a great way. in a in a very bohemian way. That's just her vibe. Yeah. Um but Janet always is just >> this and it's >> I don't know it >> it's all kinds of wrong. She's all kinds of wrong and I could list them all the wrongness.

[00:26:25]>> Yeah. And I had a point to why I was even saying that, but I I can't remember. Um >> the thing that she even says though to Lacy is again just like baiting when she tells start talking to her about being a lesbian. I think that she knows that something happened in Lacy's past at this point. She knows that like whatever that thing was like I don't I don't know the specific details of it, but it almost seems like she was baiting her with like a Don't you just feel better women, you know? Like >> it's just so up like it's >> we don't believe you, Janet.

[00:26:54]>> No. And and like you're >> not about the essay stuff, the the bisexual stuff. you're like grabbing at like a pos like a possible trauma like a a real insecurity something that like you read something about and think like I'm going to say this thing to her because she's really done that with like every single person when she tells Jesse you've really changed where Jesse has literally said multiple times I just want people to see that I've changed >> and so she just feeds it back to him and like in the moment I think he is kind of eating it up because he's kind of a sucker for anyone like just telling him like hey that thing you said you're right I'm standing. It's in his confessional where he probably like takes a minute. Probably Lacy gets home and she's like, "Babe, >> we've talked about this.

[00:27:36]>> Just cuz someone compliments you doesn't mean >> Well, she also said that Lacy was the change. Like Lacy had an impact on him.

[00:27:44]>> Yeah. But either way, like that's that's what all he's wanted to hear from people. He I think he even literally said the words all I that's all I've wanted to be known for is that wow, you've changed. I think he just said it.

[00:27:54]to Michelle when right after she said >> don't make out with your girlfriend.

[00:27:59]>> Jesse does though bring up in this moment the conversation he had with Janet in Mexico and he says I just feel that it's odd timing. So I don't think he's buying her stuff hookline and sinker in the present moment of this party either. Yeah.

[00:28:14]>> Yeah. No, totally. But I just think it took him a minute in the He's just a sucker in the moment.

[00:28:18]>> Yeah. Yeah. Compliment except you.

[00:28:22]>> Yeah. Jesse and I love compliments. Um, then we've got Melissa thanking Britney for the party and just making time to celebrate them. Janet uh talking >> Do we think that Britney paid for that party like like threw it for them?

[00:28:37]>> No, I think it would probably be a production thing, but Mike could probably say speak to that better than I can.

[00:28:44]>> It depends. It's production will only pay for something if if production needs the something. if it's happening, probably not paying for it, you know, like even even in >> like NBC and and AGT get into this all the time with the red carpet. We want a red carpet outside in front of the theater going up the steps and do a big show open every year and NBC wants their red carpet in the the hotel ballroom where it's controlled in the photo. So when we want to move outside, we got to pay for that red carpet. when they get their they pay for that red carpet. Can we go do stuff on their red carpet? Yes, we don't have to pay for it.

[00:29:23]If we want to go outside, we have to pay for it and they they then get a free red carpet. So, it's like it gets down to those nitty-gritty details of like >> who needs it? Does the show need it or is this your wedding engagement whatever this was? I don't really know what this dinner was, but >> an engagement party. I wonder if they would at least like throw in for it and we're like we were gonna >> year ago. This was my biggest gripe with this episode was this season actually as it turns out [laughter] as also keep in mind I did think this was the final episode. If you were didn't know that story go back and watch episode one >> where I was sorely disappointed.

[00:30:01]>> But I was like this sucks that this season started with these two. I'm pretty sure if I remember correctly, this season opened with Jasmine and Melissa talking about getting engaged and being all happy and planning they were going to plan their wedding and I was so nervous and all this so happy and all do and then it ends. It's not ending, but then it we're end like we're nothing. We got nothing. We got a dress fitting three acts ago. We got this party. We got no planning. They've talked about it a couple times, but like I'm just over Janet and Danny and the [ __ ] storylines that are three years long [laughter] and we missed a whole a whole wedding planning. A whole thing with her mom, a whole who's this Melissa friend? Like, she seemed funny. The kid Oh, he pooped. Like, that's funny. Like, where's she been? And listen, maybe she didn't want to be on TV. I don't know.

[00:30:55]Well, I'm wondering if that's what Melissa's deal is like.

[00:30:59]>> Oh, Melissa 100% doesn't want to be on TV. That >> I think that's maybe why they couldn't really dig into this in a way that they would like to aside from just like talking to Zach and being like, do you want to be on TV like she's she's she's on the show, right? She might not like it, but you signed the papers. You you're you're probably doing it for Jasmine. Fine. Appreciate that. Um >> but like come on, man. Nothing. We got nothing, dude. We literally got nothing.

[00:31:24]Somebody said the other day, Lala, we've LA the Lala, we've gotten zero from Lala. Not a single storyline from her.

[00:31:32]All she's done is gone and just >> which is crazy.

[00:31:35]>> Blow [ __ ] up. Nothing. The only thing that had to do with Lala this year was when she tried to [ __ ] lifeguard.

[00:31:42]>> Yeah, I was I thought about this too. Yeah. And then that happened today, which also made it to where like nobody No, that's totally to your point. the there was nothing about the dog like it was a weird scene with the brother where they were talking about something else right and it just came up and then and then the party it was like oh I'm going to be sad because I had to put my dog down moving on we didn't hear about dog again right >> I'm I need 20 minutes about the dog I'm not going to any parties sorry the sevenyear sober birthday party's getting put on hold because my 20year-old dog just got put down like it doesn't I I so that part I'm Like you didn't I'm not trying to say anything about anything.

[00:32:24]Like all I thought about was foof when they were talking about that and like it was killing me.

[00:32:29]>> So but it just it wasn't enough. Like in my mind I'm like I'm crying over my cat who we just spent a bazillion dollars to find out. Yeah. No, he's actually perfect. [laughter] Screw you, you little dick. Uh so like I I can't imagine.

[00:32:48]I don't know. It just seemed it seemed it seemed weird. It didn't seem enough and it seemed like oh yeah, no one's we're not getting any story. And if you think about it, the only story we got was the postpartum deal early on.

[00:33:00]>> Yeah. But to make what you were just saying even worse is that she gets to that thing and says, "I really want to like this is a really big deal. I really want this to be a celebration because it's a big deal that I did this thing.

[00:33:13]I'm also sad about my dog because this this happened, but I don't want that to overshadow like I I still want to celebrate because it's a big deal. And then literally all you did the whole time was try to convince someone to be friends with Janet >> again for the 80th episode.

[00:33:28]>> Like what is going on 80th time?

[00:33:31]>> Yeah. So, so Zach and Janet being friends is more important than your dog.

[00:33:34]>> Than your dog and your sobriety party.

[00:33:37]>> Two things that literally are the makeup of you. Like you've talked about how like this dog is like your forever soulmate that you picked up here and has been with you on this whole ride and then and then there's the seven years of sobriety and you're wasting your time with thising idiot and trying to get people to like her. Why don't you like Janet? Cuz Janet sucks. Simple as that.

[00:33:58]We don't need to keep talking about it.

[00:34:00]She just sucks.

[00:34:01]>> But also, have you not thought, wait, what am I not seeing? What are because they've all experienced her for many many many years. I just got here.

[00:34:13]So maybe I need to Abos.

[00:34:16]>> Yeah. And your picker is off. Lal. Think about the people that you have always stand. They've always been trash bags.

[00:34:23]Like it's Listen, I I loved I loved a good romp with James Kennedy was it's as good as it gets. Good as gold. You know, Pumpini. Like there are things in those scenes that like I think are some of the most hilarious scenes ever that James Kennedy is a part of. Trash. Like trash.

[00:34:39]Garbage person. Tons of problems. Not someone that you want to get uh in front of as a representative of like just not just >> your stamp of approval.

[00:34:49]>> Yeah. Yeah. Um just not the husband. You you you took it all on the chin. Like the whole world basically called you a home wrecking [ __ ] And and for what?

[00:34:59]for this dude to end up being what what do they the Harvey Weinstein of Los Angeles? Even though isn't Harvey Weinstein the Harvey Weinstein of Los Angeles. Um >> um we now have Janet make her way over very awkwardly to Jesse who's sitting alone. Um and this is when she says the stuff about like you know I think Lacy's making you a better person and it was it's been really nice to know her. And do you know what this the way she said this next statement is akin to when you're being interviewed for a job and someone says, "Can you tell me some of your not so great qualities?" And you're like, >> "I care too much.

[00:35:36]>> I'm so on time. I'm early."

[00:35:38]>> Yeah.

[00:35:39]>> And I never can really ask for a raise.

[00:35:44]>> Yeah. I'm not great at delegating because I just like to do it all myself.

[00:35:46]>> Yeah. So, like when she sat there and said, "My only regret is not getting to know her sooner."

[00:35:53]>> That's your only regret. [laughter] >> Not like looking her up and throwing a bunch of [ __ ] in her face, getting on Reddit and talking about her, just like making her entire entrance just hellacious. Like, >> and you know, this is when Jesse in his uh confessional saying like, "Yeah, yeah, listen, who doesn't like a comment? Love it. It's nice to hear, but I'm I don't believe it. I trust this chick as far as I could throw her. I mean, it's it's it's coming off as hidden agenda.

[00:36:23]>> The thing is, Bravo, just give her a year off and let's just see what the show is without the distraction of her.

[00:36:29]>> That's right.

[00:36:29]>> Without either her trying to make good, her trying to make bad, her trying people having to move their entire lives around to to stand for her to to fight her battle. Like, it's just that I don't understand. Like, do you have if if she's around again, then you have nothing else to talk about and and then just cancel the show already.

[00:36:47]>> After this, uh, Lacy Mike agrees. Uh, Lacy, you know, pops into the conversation, sits down, and this is when Janet is like, "Oh my god, and you know what? We should go out on a double date, the four of us, and she's just such a pusher. Zack, we're besties now.

[00:37:01]Oh, do you want my uterus? Follow me on IG. Lacy, follow me on IG. Jesse, let's go on a double date." Like, bro, commodana simana.

[00:37:14]Do you remember that SNL skit?

[00:37:15]>> Yes, of course.

[00:37:16]>> Oh my I need to go home and watch that.

[00:37:18]>> Bop into each person.

[00:37:20]That's all of Kristen's people because she she's got to beat Kristen now. Now she's beat Danny or beat Nia. She thinks she's So, she's like on a high of that and she's rolling hard and she's like she's in that place where it's like the momentum. Keep keep the momentum going.

[00:37:36]Let's let's like which is what you do when like you know you're an actor and you get a great part and it's coming out this week. So then you're like hitting the circuits, you know, you're getting like >> press tour.

[00:37:46]>> Yeah. Doing your press tour take like uh chiming in for something that you want because they're going to see you on a couple magazine covers right now because it's this small amount of time that you have that this thing's going on. It's like everyone cashes in on that. It's why everyone suddenly started a podcast after uh Tom Sandaval banged Raquel. All of a sudden, every VPR person had a podcast and it's all they talked about.

[00:38:09]I get it, but it's like doesn't really work that way with friends.

[00:38:12]>> That's why I think that they're game pieces.

[00:38:15]>> Yeah.

[00:38:16]>> Um so after that little convo, um Jasmine gives a very quick little speech. Then Zach gets called up to say something. It's all, you know, lovely.

[00:38:25]And we just end with a um sweet montage of pictures of Jasmine and Melissa. And Jasmine saying, you know, I never I've never been this happy. And Melissa is just the best person I know. And >> yeah.

[00:38:38]>> Yeah. And they're going to get married in New Jersey. And they have.

[00:38:40]>> Yeah. I think it's probably pretty like we're bummed on it right now because like that would have just been a great story to follow and like literally knowing anything more about Melissa aside from the fact that she's got great hair and she's clearly a great girlfriend. That's all we know. Um it's probably the best move she's ever made is keeping all of that stuff private.

[00:39:00]Like totally >> I'll show up to the house party. I'll come on a trip now and again. I'll I'll be here. You know what? I I might crack a joke at something. My wedding personal. Our relationship personal.

[00:39:11]Like there's just I if I if I have no idea, but if I were to just take a stab, I think that she's set those boundaries and been like zero.

[00:39:18]>> I agree.

[00:39:19]>> Getting into my personal [ __ ] Yeah.

[00:39:20]Even though the last two and a half two years have been about her her ass and >> she never speaks up about it because I think she wants to be not engaged in it in the way that she could be if she wanted to step in and be like stop.

[00:39:36]>> Right. But you're saying she stepped in and said no to everything else but not this.

[00:39:39]>> No, that is interesting. I wonder if they dude what if like they just like never like what if the producers just kind of made it a thing where it's like we're never going to put her in a seat and ask her about any of this. Could she her word could really it almost put the kaibos on at all before when she literally said like stop talking about us like they yelled that on the boat. It was either Melissa and Jasmine or Melissa and or J like one of them >> um said like and like just knock it off already.

[00:40:10]>> And then it did calm down for a minute because that that's a that's a heavy thing like Janet the person the victim has spoken. Shut the up.

[00:40:21]>> I don't know if it did though because that's the same moment that what's her name dropped the essay bomb. Like that was on the boat too.

[00:40:28]>> Yeah.

[00:40:29]>> Right. But I thought that that I thought that that's what spurred the them to say, "Shut up."

[00:40:34]>> I'm sure it did. I don't remember the I'm sure it did. That being said, >> it only blew up from then. Like it became a full-blown situation that now Janet's had this essay and now it's a you know what I mean? Like it didn't it didn't tie down, I don't think.

[00:40:48]>> Okay, that could be true. But just try to jog my memory if anyone can. Wasn't that kind of around the finale? Because it was the engagement. So it's like it couldn't didn't really like it they had to go to the reunion and talk about it like even if it would have died down by episode two the reunion would come >> in the off season.

[00:41:08]>> Oh Luke and Kristen. Sorry.

[00:41:09]>> Yeah. They got engaged at the very >> I was thinking the girls.

[00:41:13]>> This is the closest to politics that like these shows have gotten.

[00:41:16]>> Totally. And I'm so over it. I don't want this in my life.

[00:41:20]>> Very very divisive and it's exactly what every Bravo viewer tells us that they don't want. like some people will will will pipe up and and I do every now and again. But like listen, if if I you have no idea what I could be saying.

[00:41:33][laughter] Um I hope that they don't continue down this path because it's just it's not the place >> at all for the divine.

[00:41:42]>> Danny Clark said, "Summer should be fun.

[00:41:44]The valley not fun." That is the line that that is the gift that keeps on giving that line. Everything can be plugged in there. And I just I'm grateful for it. It's >> true.

[00:41:53]>> I for one I'm grateful for it. Um, Eminesence 687 said, "Isn't the whole point of therapy to help you process the lived events, label, and put away in its place so that healing can happen? Her therapist failed her." [laughter] >> Maybe don't go see that therapist.

[00:42:11]>> Kathy A said, "Can we just have an hour of Michelle and Lacy teaming up to teach Jesse life lessons, and Michelle can stay single?" Sorry, Dre. and they can become best friends and go shopping and eat at the valley's best restaurants and rate them and everyone else can just sail off in a pontoon boat to nowhere.

[00:42:28]Please, [laughter] I'm here for that show and I think I can speak for Mike as well.

[00:42:34]>> Lacy and Michelle >> just >> No, I don't think Lacy I don't think Michelle is on Lacy's level. So, I think that show could get real irritating pretty quickly and and boring. Like I think Lacy could get irritated by Michelle probably pretty quick.

[00:42:49]>> I think they could have a good time.

[00:42:51]>> Okay.

[00:42:51]>> But I I I I see how it could go arai.

[00:42:53]I'm just I'm hoping for the best because I I got to get us out of this show. I'm just trying to I'm throwing everything to the wall and seeing what sticks.

[00:42:59]>> Well, listen. Five more weeks and [laughter] we'll be done.

[00:43:03]>> You know what? Oh, we really screwed it up. We should have said six more weeks because technically this was six. And then when we were done, we would have said five and we would have felt okay, we've done something. We've moved forward. But now we don't because we robbed ourselves of the checking it off the list. You know, are you following?

[00:43:19]>> No.

[00:43:21]>> Okay. Well, I'm too tired to repeat it, but you you got it at home. Narcath said, "Shwarz really showed his true self when he was being a horrible person to Katie, saying mean things to her, dumping beer on her head, how quickly people forget when the mask slips." And I am reading this because this is where I feel like the growth part of things is shown. if like over and over and over >> over and over and over again. And I say these things all the time. I say it in relationship to Nia. I should like if these people have forgiven like if if Danny and Nia are still married for 10 years and she says it's okay on a certain level we just have to trust that if Melissa and Jasmine with the whole Danny thing if they're if Melissa is saying not interjecting and not furthering the conversation on her end then maybe she's okay with what happened and she's buried it. Katie and Tom are very good friends. Yeah. She's been on his podcast. They share custody of their dogs if they have come to peace with it.

[00:44:23]And not for nothing, and I like Katie, but Katie was no walk in the park either. And do I think that was despicable behavior on Schwarz's behalf?

[00:44:30]Yes. You don't throw a drink on anyone.

[00:44:33]You don't speak to anyone that way. But they were also, in my opinion, in a toxic relationship coming from both sides.

[00:44:39]>> Exactly. Like they weren't kids. Listen, I understand they were in their 20s or whatever it was, but like they were bartender kids working at the pub down the street and like all living together, shacked up like four at a time. Some of them like in shitty apartments with loud ass air conditioners that are on the wall that like you couldn't run the microwave at the same time. Like this was just like an era of their lives and I'm sure they both look back at and are like, "Oh my god, not proud of that."

[00:45:02]I'm sure that Katie doesn't love how she came off. I'm sure that Katie doesn't love how like she was just closed down and she was just like she would have been the Amanda not fun, you know? Like that's who Katie was at that point too.

[00:45:12]And like you could say that one is clearly much worse than the other, but like >> I don't know, man. Like like >> No, Katie was tough for me for a lot of years on Vanderpump. And I >> this is not me sticking up for Tom and how he uh treated her. I just I think that she was >> she was in a bad spot for a lot of those years and that was palpable when you were watching her. And I think Tom being >> just kind of more of a beta type human.

[00:45:43]Yeah.

[00:45:44]>> I don't think he had the I think when he got >> how do I say this?

[00:45:52]He wasn't going to be the adult in the room and ever say like, you know what, something's gone ary here like we see him acting now. Yeah. He wasn't that person back then. So now, you know, she's in a bad spot. So now he is trumping that bad spot and acting even more like a degenerate.

[00:46:07]>> He's got Sandival in his ear being like her.

[00:46:09]>> Yeah. And it just was like a recipe for disaster. And I think both of them have grown up so much. And if they if she has forgiven him, then I then I can then why can't I? That's that's just my thought on it. Party of Shorts. And you don't have to agree, but that's just my thought.

[00:46:23]>> I hope I'm getting this right, and I might not be. Um, but I think Narcath is my newest favorite >> handle. Um, and I'm assuming it's uh >> like a narcissist, as you call, like a narcissist empath. It's the funniest in the whole world.

[00:46:41]>> Yeah, it is very funny.

[00:46:42]>> Like somebody who cares but doesn't care. Um, Shannon Th said, "I want Janet to sit and consider if she wants to punish Danny or if she wants to punish her perpetrator. If she wants to punish both, fine. Then I need her to acknowledge the differences and severity between the two situations." And I thought that was a good comment.

[00:46:59]Nicheless Boomer said, "Brittney asking for ranch is just so Britney the most." Um, the Harvey House said Lala needs to get her own storyline instead of piggybacking off of Janet's.

[00:47:12]That is piggybacking off of Jasmine's.

[00:47:14]That is piggybacking off of also Melissa's. Um, Trish Vader said, "I really like Michelle this season, especially the last couple of episodes.

[00:47:23]The dynamic between Michelle, Lacy, and Jesse is very interesting and nice to watch." And I'm reading that because it is, but I heard that he was on Watch What Happened, and it did not say that him and Michelle are in a good place.

[00:47:35]Did anyone hear this?

[00:47:37]>> I don't remember him saying anything really great. and he he still always loves to take a dig at like when they ask about Dr. Dre, he he's just like, you know, I just say, "Do what's best for Isabella. Make sure Isabella is comfortable. You know, slow down. Don't jump in anything like glass." Like, he likes to rub it in her face what happened last time. And listen, he's a dad and that's his kid. So, like if he if he really is has concern like that, uh that's totally his prerogative and it's fine. There's just something about Jesse that like I don't always take him that he's what he's saying is coming from a true genuine concern about something. Yeah. As much as it is that he just kind of likes to he likes to thumb I said it before. He likes to keep a thumb on her. He likes to be like, >> "Have you paid the health insurance bill this month?" That's what I'm more concerned about. Xan said, "There are times I Oh, yeah. This was the comment I was referencing earlier. Xan said, "There are times I like Lala and there are times I can't stand her. I loved when she called Danny out for the way he was talking to Nia in San Diego. But I did I don't love what she did at Danny's birthday. You don't start [ __ ] with something at their own birthday celebration. You just don't.

[00:48:43]>> You don't start no [ __ ] There won't be no [ __ ] >> That's right.

[00:48:45]>> Who said that?

[00:48:47]>> Don't start nothing. Won't be none.

[00:48:49]>> Pet Pablo. [laughter] >> Uh Johnny Smiles.

[00:48:52]>> Johnny Smiles said Danny is good as gold.

[00:48:56]>> And Mary Ken said, "I'm just here for Johnny's comments today." But Mary was on fire in the comments. She had >> the most thoughtful like extra credit, A++. I'm finger clapping for you, girl.

[00:49:08]That was some real good work.

[00:49:11]>> We've been going back and forth on voice notes literally uh at the five minute caps and just they just keep cutting us off and then we're like and then she'll go, I can't talk right now. My husband's sitting next to me. Talk you later. Bye.

[00:49:21]Love you. Bye. [laughter] >> So cute.

[00:49:25]>> She's my best friend.

[00:49:27]>> Yeah, I love her. Yeah, >> it's your term Mike. Michael Aaron.

[00:49:34]>> Nicheless Boomer. Jenna needs to explore her trauma privately. Any attempt to heal it on the show is misguided.

[00:49:41]Truth >> for peace, for freedom.

[00:49:44]>> Arnold Strong, Numero Uno. You guys are right about how this show is not fun >> and summer should be fun.

[00:49:52]>> Dude, this show is so not fun.

[00:49:56]Bravo.

[00:49:58][laughter] Two things can be true.

[00:50:01]>> Bravo.

[00:50:04]>> Bravado is the one who I was like, I think that Bravado is the crankiest [ __ ] in town, but I think we'd be best friends if we knew each other in real life. And and so much so that Bravado is probably hearing this and going absolutely the not. I hate you.

[00:50:15]>> Yeah, totally. And I'm sorry I got [laughter] >> bravado. That's so much better. Uh, two things can be true. Janet can be diabolical while Danny is despicable.

[00:50:25]Would you say two truths?

[00:50:26]>> No. Five truths. Nicheless, congrats on five subs. I trust my wedding invitation is in the mail. Thank you. And yeah, we'll probably live stream it. Who cares? Everyone can come. [laughter] That's what I told somebody. I'm like, oh, somebody asked, uh, I think you're new, so I haven't learned your name yet, but somebody was super confused at the story we told about how we got to five sub. We couldn't we didn't get to 5K subs in time, so we weren't getting it. They were like, "Oh, wait. Am I understanding this right that you guys were supposed to get married and didn't and called it off and now you're still friends?" No, we're still engaged. Not friends.

[00:51:03][laughter] >> Yeah, we're definitely not friends.

[00:51:06]>> I would never be friends.

[00:51:08]>> 17 years of love will take the friendship right out of you.

[00:51:12]>> As you said about um whatchamacallit Kenny and >> Gavin last night we cover in the city, so go watch it.

[00:51:19]>> They're not friends anymore. They're just in a relationship.

[00:51:21]>> Exactly. Yeah. [laughter] >> Jess 6383. Maybe this is now more valley of the dolls.

[00:51:30]>> True.

[00:51:33]Ali Sense Senseihoffer. I know I butchered that. Ali's Anihoffer.

[00:51:39]You know who you are. I'm just wondering if anyone else picked up on the birthday sex. When Nia said she wasn't sure if it could happen, Danny said, "Make it happen lowkey." such a misogynistic DB.

[00:51:54]And those are huffs of agreement that you're hearing right now.

[00:51:58]>> They're just huffs of like I don't know what to do. They're they're married. He thinks it's funny. I don't think he's like trying to like his wife. Okay. Or maybe I can't even say.

[00:52:07]>> I also don't you hear a lot of And again, I'm not saying this is right. I just feel like I hear a lot of dudes be like, "When are we going to bone?"

[00:52:12]>> Yeah. This is actually interesting. I'm in the middle of reading my comments right [laughter] now. We don't even talking about any of this.

[00:52:20]>> I literally tell you stop. Like every time you grab my ass, I go knock it off.

[00:52:24]Do you ever have you ever once knocked it off?

[00:52:27]>> Okay. I don't think you say it that viciously. And a little squeeze. A little love squeeze. Sorry. I love Also, this you know what she also says that she needs to be loved all day long forever.

[00:52:38]>> From afar.

[00:52:39]>> No, you can't love squeeze. They're not your >> What do you call them?

[00:52:43]>> Booty squinches. [laughter] Like >> it's a little booty.

[00:52:47]>> How are you not feeling so loved?

[00:52:48]>> Dude, I think you're identifying in >> I'm not. And you know what else? One of our first dates uh that we went on that my mom also came with, I did a booty squinch and you smacked me and you were like, "Stop grabbing my ass in front of your mom and my mom was like, I think it's kind of cute." So it's cute.

[00:53:03]>> What is that?

[00:53:03]>> That means I was raised to be cute.

[00:53:05]>> Oh, so you come from a family, a long [laughter] line of of squiders, >> lovers.

[00:53:12]Danny's creepy. I'm not creepy. I I love you.

[00:53:15]>> I think it's in the It's in the eye of the beholder. No, >> it's in the eye of the squinty.

[00:53:18]>> Yeah, the squinchy. [laughter] >> No.

[00:53:22]>> Creep alert.

[00:53:23]>> You don't know what you're talking about. Uh the Harvey House has some good comments.

[00:53:27]>> Yeah, they do.

[00:53:28]>> Uh the Harvey House, I could be completely wrong on this. You're not, but it feels like with Danny, he has deep child uh deep suppressed feelings of childhood trauma. Now, I hate to assume, but I think Danny could have been mentally abused by his father or mother. Having no control of life then probably having no control of life then probably makes him highly sensitive towards people trying to control his actions now. I don't know. Something like that. Or he is just an everyday [ __ ] >> Maybe a little of everything.

[00:53:54]>> Yeah, two truths.

[00:53:57]>> Amber Jackson, if Nia can weaponize her trauma, then so can Janet. To me, it's really simple. Danny is an alcoholic.

[00:54:04]Nia is an enabler. He pretends everything is okay and his wife helps him hide it. Janet wasn't smart enough to mind her business, but thank God it had to be said.

[00:54:13]>> I read that comment and I forgot to reply. What uh what in what ways do we think that Nia is weaponizing her trauma? And is it the childhood trauma from living in the car? And how is she weaponizing that?

[00:54:26]>> Yeah, I need all that and talk about I got to find >> I have that same question.

[00:54:33]>> Okay, let us know. Do you know Mike?

[00:54:35]>> Um, I mean, I think you just said it.

[00:54:37]>> Oh, no, no, no. But that's the question.

[00:54:39]How is she weaponizing it? I don't understand.

[00:54:40]>> I don't know.

[00:54:41]>> Oh, okay. Let us know, please.

[00:54:42]>> Trisha S. Vader, both me and my husband forgot our anniversary. Oh, Natalie was supposed to be here for this one, but she's gone.

[00:54:49]>> Trisha, >> I can't hear. I'm four feet away.

[00:54:52]>> No, don't worry. I'll tell you when you come back.

[00:54:54]>> Dude, I always forget to mention.

[00:54:55]Speaking of being 4 feet away, when you tripped that day and you fell six inches in front of me, somebody made a comment and was like, "Oh my god, I can't believe Mike didn't run to Natalie's side." Like, but by the way, >> I just kicked her. [laughter] >> I got because we are not in a relationship. We are lovers. That's why she lets me squinch her booty, Mike.

[00:55:21]>> Okay, we got five minutes left. Trisha S. fader. Both me and my husband forgot our anniversary one year. We were both busy with Little League Allstars. He called me from work and said, "Wasn't our anniversary last weekend? For the longest time, we didn't even remember the right date. 41 years this month.

[00:55:36]Hell yeah." LOL. I was just going to say next month. [laughter] I hope we remembered. Uh we never will forget my birthday. It's a month-long celebration.

[00:55:45]Long story, but for good reason. Natalie and I, I don't even know how many years we did that. I don't even think we had an official anniversary. So, we kind of made one up and then >> what?

[00:55:56]>> September.

[00:55:57]>> No, September. Like what? Off based off what?

[00:56:00]>> Based off our first date. And then you really never left after that.

[00:56:05]>> That breakfast and lunch and breakfast and dinner and when Hover got us all wasted and you took advantage of me that night >> and I never said nothing about it to nobody in 17 years. Um, anyways, we we we used to forget all the time. And then I would say probably for the first 10 or 12 years of us being together, every year, uh, they would schedule a casting trip on the shows that I worked on the week of her birthday. I missed her birthday like probably for 12 years.

[00:56:32]It was pretty fun. She loved that.

[00:56:35]All that glitters. Danny is a angry little guy. That's funny.

[00:56:41]Johnny Smiles. The Sweet Life of Jesse and Danny featuring Janet Montana.

[00:56:46][laughter] I watched that. Joe Schmo, big fan of the fried eggs and toast. Make it like every damn day. So good. We got another picture this morning. Joe was >> And I keep telling them get eggs. I will cook it for you.

[00:57:00]>> We have eggs.

[00:57:01]>> No, she's No, she got eggs.

[00:57:03]>> Got new eggs.

[00:57:04]>> Um, >> okay. Well, I'll come early next Monday and I'll make you guys >> make [laughter] I can make an egg. Not as good as I can.

[00:57:12]>> Okay, Kura, I don't know why they continue to go around the same mountain because it just keeps getting worse every season. I wish I could unsee all of it. They're going around the same mountain thing. I I love and I also wish I could unsee it because they are just it's the same freaking thing. It's the same show every year.

[00:57:30]>> I don't know why they keep going around the same Booko Mountain.

[00:57:34]>> Yeah. LL Nut.

[00:57:37]Nia is a fourth degree black belt, as is my brother. The calm exterior is probably more attributed to that than her beauty pageant life. I'm sure that contributes. Uh, but I can tell you that martial arts does teach you that. My brother literally can act someone with his bare hands. Control is a huge part of training, which is also true. And that's funny.

[00:57:58]>> Great points.

[00:57:59]>> Johnny Smiles. Michelle sold more houses than Jesse, so he called her an escort.

[00:58:05]Oh, that was last year. But still so funny. Still slaps.

[00:58:08]>> Yeah, still slaps. Johnny Smiles.

[00:58:10]Another one. Mike Row should do a show where he makes Jesse do manual labor.

[00:58:14]Another show I would watch all day long.

[00:58:16]>> Joe Schmo really loves Micro.

[00:58:17]>> That was Johnny Smiles. But >> no, no, no. But Joe Schmo wrote, "I love Micro. I would watch him do anything."

[00:58:22]Yeah. So, you got another viewer and he was really nice when I worked with him.

[00:58:25]>> Joe Schmo. Speaking to Joe Schmo, I'm starting to feel like we did Schwarz a disservice by rallying so hard to get him on this show. Yeah. [clears throat] Party of Schwarz might have backfired on us.

[00:58:37]>> No, because he also I think loves the paycheck. So, I think that there there's your service.

[00:58:42]>> Sure. He could have been a model again.

[00:58:46]Human Stories Entertainment also agrees that Danny maybe has some childhood stuff going on. Uh, she said, "Not saying he experienced something horrible as a young man. The behavior though resembles childhood trauma. Fight, flight, freeze."

[00:58:59]>> Totally agree.

[00:59:01]>> Uh, I also pulled the Britney asking for ranch. That's so good. Nless. So, so Britney Britney should be on a bottle of ranch like the little face.

[00:59:11]Maria can't just Janet drops these little nuggets but doesn't back them up.

[00:59:16]She says things for sound bites. She never comes with receipts or proof. It's hearsay to feed her narrative.

[00:59:24]That's save the best for last. Mary got the last. But yeah, that's a good one.

[00:59:29]It's so true.

[00:59:31]>> All right. Well, >> we did it.

[00:59:32]>> We did it, guys. And guys, it was so fun. The show's amazing.

[00:59:38]>> We lost Natalie, but that's all right.

[00:59:40]You're stuck with the two of us now.

[00:59:42]Maybe we'll throw the other two, Travis and Harrison, in the seat once in a while.

[00:59:46]>> Yeah.

[00:59:51]Listen, Truth for Peace for Freedom is back, but I couldn't find a comment from this one.

[00:59:57]So, I just tried to find one from last week that I read because it's like the same story. It's all Mexico. All the same all the same players.

[01:00:03]>> Probably just pulled from last year.

[01:00:04]>> Yeah, it probably could pull from last year. I'll probably all be the same. Um, but yeah, our comments got uh the card ran out last Well, it didn't run out. It was corrupt. It was corrupt.

[01:00:13]>> Like so many things in this world.

[01:00:15]>> So many. So anyway, I I I got nothing, but just know that it was a banger.

[01:00:21]>> Um, well, we got >> we got we got something. We got two episodes done for the Valley and uh catch us for the reunion of In the City next week. I'm very excited for that reunion.

[01:00:33]>> I know. I do think it's kind of hilarious that they're all back at the clubhouse. Like they're it's a clubhouse reunion.

[01:00:40]>> Oh, that is very interesting. Did not know that. and no one looks great because they're stack set. Yeah, the lighting isn't good and the that the chairs are are crap. So, like it's just I just think it's funny that Lindsay and Kyle are stuck on this set. And then Amanda looks like she's wearing a wedding dress. Like the weirdest two-piece what? Like I don't know, man.

[01:01:02]But did you guys see them on Instagram where they're there's some rumor going around because Amanda was wearing some stupid dress that made her look pregnant at one of the 700 weddings her and Wes have gone to. Then she she went home with him, took a photo of her basically looking barefoot and pregnant from the back like she's just this little farm girl with this like little little sage green dress and looking at the horse. Is >> this on her Instagram feed?

[01:01:23]>> I don't.

[01:01:24]>> Okay. Well, I'm going to look anyway.

[01:01:26]>> Um and then and then the rumor starts that she's pregnant and so her and Wes did a little stupid like the little stupid bastards that they are. He's carrying the basket and she's just piling in jars of pickles and vats of ice cream because those I think those are the only two things that came to her mind when what do pregnant people always want? Pickles and ice cream.

[01:01:46]>> Yeah, >> it's not.

[01:01:48]>> But I'm so scared to leave the house and walk down the street. I'm so scared.

[01:01:52]>> Just a scared little pup.

[01:01:55]>> Me too.

[01:01:57]>> Me too.

[01:01:59]>> I can't. Anyway, like, subscribe, hype, tell a friend. Yeah. See you next week.

[01:02:06]Love you. Bye.

[01:02:10]>> We did it. Mike, >> what did we do?

[01:02:12]>> We finished by before 2 a.m.

[01:02:16]>> That's a big deal for us. Don't do that.