This interview highlights how the most compelling television romances are built on the tension of what remains unsaid rather than explicit dialogue. It offers a thoughtful look at the craft of using restraint and non-verbal chemistry to sustain long-term audience investment.
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Are We Calling It a Date? Sarah Fisher & Nick Bateman on Hannah & Wyatt ⭐When Hope Calls: Brookfield追加:
I love that all he needed to do was hold her. He didn't really say anything.
>> Even though he knows he's got to do twice as much work, he's like, I can't let her down. He sees what it means to her.
>> I do think what they've got that that is unique to them is that there is so much said and what is not said.
Hi everyone, welcome to the Heart in Motion podcast. I'm so excited to welcome back to the podcast Sarah Fischer. Hi Sarah.
>> Hello. How you doing?
>> I'm great. And joining us for the first time is Nick Baitman. Hi Nick. How are you doing?
>> I'm great. How are you?
>> I'm great. Thanks so much guys for being here. So excited that we've got this week, whether it's on Pure Flick tomorrow or whether it is on Great American Family or GFM Plus on Sunday, we've got the When Hope Calls Brookfield season finale and we have a lot to talk about. We've got a dinner to talk about.
We have seen a preview. I don't know if you guys have seen it or not. So, we've got a little bit of a snippet of a dinner coming up. So, I'm excited to get into all that.
>> Yeah, I haven't. Sorry, Nick. Go for it.
No, I was just saying I saw it. Did you Did you see it?
>> I have not seen it yet. Uh I don't know how I haven't found it, but I haven't seen it yet. But I know the dinner you speak of, and I'm excited for people to see it. I think I think it's it's a really exciting episode. There's a lot coming up for for all the characters, how they all intertwine. That's uh Yeah, there's a lot of magic in this last episode. So, I'm excited.
>> What a great episode five, though. Wow.
>> Yeah. I'm so glad that I'm talking with you guys after episode five leading into six. So, there's a lot to get into. Um, congratulations. You guys have been on the series now for two years. I'm curious like knowing you're going into a new series, but after living it for two seasons, like what is a perfect day for you like onset in Brookfield? Sarah, we'll start with you.
>> Oh, man. Um, to be honest, I have a feeling Nick's gonna say a really similar thing, but just all day every day. Like, if I can be in every scene, all day during the day. Um, one, because I love acting and on a very simple level, I just love acting and I I just adore everyone on set in front of and behind camera. So the more I can be on set, the more excited I am, the more, you know, tapped in creatively and inspired by other people I'm working with and yeah, so honestly, a perfect day on set would be would be beginning, middle, and end. And uh I mean it where you'll find me on set is the food truck. I love a good food truck. That is where you'll find me. But yeah, no, I just um it's >> your go-to. Are you at the food truck because you want to try it all or you've got a favorite?
>> I want to try most of it.
My favorite is the like little mini Ritz crackers that say it's real cheese. Like those little mini >> I I've been on a set where every day they just handed me a full one privately for my um in my dressing room, which I really appreciated. So uh yes, we have an incredible incredible team uh up in North Bay for food. So that's also a beautiful part of set that I love. But uh yes, all day for me for sure.
>> Nick, how about you?
>> For me, I think my ideal perfect day off the top, not cold. Like when it's a nice day there, I'm happy. When it's freezing, I'm still happy, but it's not preferable. Um preferable. So, if I can get a nice day with the weather and then I kind I like when I have a day where half of it's at the ranch and the other half is in the town because the town's so fun to be in >> and I still kind of feel like a little kid in that town because it's it's just fun being on sets that are like overly built and it's just cool that there's an entire town built on a back lot in North Bay. So, um, you know, it's like I went to Universal Studios. It's not that extravagant as Universal Studios, but it's just there's something fun about being on a set that's built to look like 1920s. Um, so I think my favorite is nice day, being at the ranch, being on all the sets, and then obviously getting to work with like fun props like either one of those old cars like uh the producer has this awesome old Ford, which I think you just saw in episode five >> that it barely runs. So, it's really watching the crew try to get this thing to run because it's >> We'll have to like wait 30 minutes.
Yeah. To get it cranked so we can run it. Or even like anything to do with a horse. Like the horses are always uh fun to work with, but that's also good when the weather's nice because if it gets too cold, the horses aren't in the best mood either. So, um that would be my ideal day. Great weather. One of the days where like a lot of the cast is on because we always have fun the bigger the group is. And then being like in the town, so full day, nice weather, horses, cars, props, the whole set. That's my ideal day on on set. And you guys, these last couple of episodes and talking with Chris and Cindy, you had some cold days this last season that you had to film, right?
>> Yes, we did. I I always tell everyone I have a full like thermal suit under my outfits because they have these incredible like long sleeve and and leggings where you press a button. I did not know these existed until Brookfield.
Um, you press a button on the shirt and the pants and it heats them up and you have like like 1, two, three, and level three is the hottest. And I'm level three every day all day. Full-blown furnace underneath all of my outfits.
Um, when we're filming in, it's usually November that got so cold up there. But I remember, Nick, I don't know if you remember this, the first season it snowed twice before Halloween and I was so offended. I was like, how how is this a thing? Um, so yes, it got it got it gets cold in November up there. It gets it gets really cold, which to be honest, the the the thing I obviously being cold isn't isn't the best feeling, but more than that, what what the challenge is is as an actor, it's it's hard to pretend you're not cold. Um, so it it adds an extra challenge. And and for everyone behind camera as well who just crush it and do such an amazing job um working around it, that that's a bit of a a struggle. The one scene from episode four that always that was making me laugh um and I brought up in one of the other interviews is the where the kids were playing baseball.
>> Yeah.
>> I could see their breath like I wasn't set with them cuz we're never on set with the kids uh unfortunately because they all seem like sweethearts but like when when they're playing baseball and they're like good job and there's like their breath is like >> freezing.
>> I'm like oh those poor little guys like the and the girls like their ears are red and stuff. But it's crazy how good and talented uh the team is to actually other than seeing the breath. You would never know >> that it's not a beautiful day. Like all like it just it's shot so beautifully.
You would never know it's cold.
>> Yeah, I agree. I would never known except I saw a few of the, you know, I'm like, "Oh, they got to be cold right now." But every >> and they're actually nice to us cuz some sets will make you put ice cubes in your mouth so that way it cools your mouth down so you don't see the smoke.
>> Oh, that's a trick.
>> Fourth day with ice cubes in your mouth sounds like my worst nightmare.
>> Yeah, but you think about it. If your mouth cools off, you not that hot steam.
So I' like I've seen that technique before like but I'm like I'm like don't make us do it. But we're good.
>> Yeah, >> we're taking care of you guys. Okay. So, speaking of challenges, Sarah, you've said you like a good challenge when it comes to acting. What would you say is that part of Hannah or playing Hannah that can be challenging for you sometimes?
I think what I find most challenging is to be honest, it's that something I love is I relate to her in a lot of ways, but we're also very different. Uh even just some of the the work that I've done building the character where you know it's also back in the 1920s and how hard she had to work to be in the position that she's in. How she how she has learned to walk into a room and present herself a certain way even if she doesn't always feel that way. She's got her head held a little bit higher and her shoulders back like she um and I think I I just I I relate to her in a lot of ways, but there's there's so much about us that is so different. Um and that's where I find the excitement as an actor because the challenge is okay, how can I learn to to how can I try to understand this side of who she is and and you know, always bring it back to what what do I you know, what do I relate to even in in some of those differences?
what are things I understand? And um yeah, she she's got she's I'm definitely a little bit more of an outgoing, very love everyone kind of person. And I think she's got a bit more of a shield up where she when you let when she lets someone in, she really lets you in, but it it takes a lot of work to get there because uh because I think she's she's been on her own hustling for a really long time. So, she's very independent and she doesn't uh I think she doesn't love to rely on other people. Um I feel like I love relying on people and like people I'm close with and all all that stuff. So, um yeah, just that that kind of tightness that she has. Uh I don't relate to as much. So, I love I love bringing that to life because it just uh yeah, it's a it's a bit of a challenge.
So, it's exciting for me.
>> That's awesome. Nick, what about you?
Challenge or something that you really like playing uh with Wyatt?
Wyatt's a fun character because he's he's like an onion, you know? It's it's a typical joke, but like uh he's got layers. And the fun thing for Wyatt is >> he's a lot softer than people know. So, it's fun showing that rugged exterior, but having those slivers of vulnerability peak through just at the right moment, so it intrigues the viewer to be like, "Oh, there's more to this guy than we know."
So, it's it's a balance of figuring out how to give enough of that to intrigue people, but not too much to let people like understand that he's a big softy.
And we we won't know yet like where he's going because obviously he is rough and tough and all he cares about is the ranch. But as we'll learn and we don't even know like Sarah and I don't even know what's happening next, which is funny enough, but I feel like we're taking Wyatt is that Hannah's bringing out a side of him that he's never even explored. So, he doesn't understand what's happening to him because some of the se like you'll see like even in episode five, like even when she hugs him, >> Yes.
>> he's shocked. He's like, "What is this feeling I' feeling?" Which is an interesting like thing to act because it's like me myself, I've, you know, I've been married for a long time. I so I I know what this feels like. But as a character for Wyatt, for someone who's never felt love before, it's intriguing to have to understand that from a character point of view, like I can't act like I've experienced this before because why hasn't. So, it's it's a fine line to play where Wyatt doesn't really understand because he's been so obsessed with himself with the ranch with being like a rodeo star his whole past and then being kind of like bewildered by it's like what is this feeling? It's like when the Grinch's heart grew five times that day. It's like what what's going on here? So, I think that's kind of the most intriguing fun part for me is figuring out how Wyatt is discovering his heart through the process.
>> And it's not him changing. It's there.
It's in him. It's >> It's in him, but he's never seen it before, which is kind of a cool thing.
Like other than having the love for Rey as like a father figure. It just doesn't seem like he's ever like I'm sure back in his rodeo days, he probably, you know, had some Well, you know what? This is a Christian network, so no, he did not have fun.
But you get where >> maybe he did and now he doesn't. See, that >> maybe Maybe he's flirted intensely.
>> Turned it around.
>> Yeah, let's leave it like that. But um but yeah, no, it's fun seeing him explore a side to We never knew.
>> Hannah and Wyatt, one thing that we love about them that it's been fun to watch their journey is they both keep walking into situations where they don't necessarily understand the other one and they have a misconception and then they ultimately get proven wrong about the other person. So, do you guys think that those assumptions are more about the other person or about what they're protecting themselves from?
>> I'd say it's a little bit of both.
is like, you know, Wyatt knows nothing about fashion or has any respect for it.
And then when he sees, you know, how hard Hannah is working, it's hard to deny the respect for her ethic. Cuz if she's willing to, as you saw, miss a meeting so she can help with the chores, how do you not respect that? You'd have to be a fool not to. So, it's I I think it's a good push and pull between the both where yes, it's foreign territory for both bro. Like, she has no idea about how to ranch, but she's like willing to jump in. And then >> the gesture he does in the last one's just beautiful how he's like, even though he knows he's got to do twice as much work. He's like, I can't let her down. He sees what it means to her. So, it's a it's a it's a beautiful moment when he kind of brings all those women together. And what a scene. So cute how they're just like girl power like that that Spice Girls thing you did guys did was hilarious too but yeah >> we'll do it again and again.
>> Okay.
>> Um no I agree. I something I I I've said a lot in interviews, but I really do feel this way is I think Hannah and Wyatt are so while they are so different, they are so like and in the way that they're like I think they are both so protective of of themselves that they're very very terrified to lean into this whatever this is, but they know there's this but they don't know. And and so I think that I think what they both understand is there is such a deep loyalty um in in an individual way, you know, with Wyatt and the ranch, Hannah and her her company. Um but I think they both see that in each other, this mutual deep level of respect and passion and love and drive and hard work, hustle, like they both see that in each other. So whether or not they understand why the other person is the way they are, why they love this so much, um I think they both I don't know, they see that similar quality and I think there's a deeper level of understanding of okay, I don't need to know why, but this matters to you and you're good at it and you work hard at it and I respect that. I admire that and I'm here for it and I'm here and I I will show up for you. So I think it it goes much deeper than them sort of going you know you know why it kind of being like why do you why is this all happening? Um I think very quickly when he sees how much it means he sees those qualities that he you know that are important for him as well. And yeah so I think that's that's one of the biggest reasons why they just sort of they see each other because it's not about the stuff up here it's what's beneath it.
So, I think they just really see each other and I think that's what people I hope but I think connect to with uh the relationship. I >> think Alfonso does a fantastic job. He's writing what you what the characters like personally to bring out those things those characteristics about themselves, you know, that the other one finds attractive. Whether they know that they're attracted to it quite yet or not is pretty fun for us to watch. So, >> yeah.
>> Episode two, >> right? And I would say even episode one, we see even a look in episode one where Hannah kind of catches something with Lucy and Wyatt. Um, and then we really see it in the photo shoot in episode two. So, how aware would you say Sarah Hannah is in that moment of what she might be feeling?
>> I think that moment is uh brilliant that Alfonso threw in this this whole twist and um and these complicated relationships. I think it's awesome. Uh, I think what it did for Hannah is she's trying to push it all down. She's trying to push it down. She's got a focus.
She's got a ranch to run. She's got a a company to run. Like, she is she has no time for for anything else. So, the thing I loved about it is she couldn't ignore how she was feeling. And jealousy is a very real feeling. And it is so hard to like push down, but it's very real. And she it what it forced her to have to do is she kind of had to look at it. She went, "Okay, fine. Why does this bother me? Why is this bothering me?"
Because again, I think they both have this whether or not stubborn stubborn may not be the right word or it might be, but they both have that like they're kind of like magnets. Like they're kind of meant to go together, but they keep having this moment where it's not quite fitting. And um welcome to the slowburn.
Right.
>> Exactly. Well, you know what, Nick and I have said from the beginning, we love a good slowburn. We we love both. We love when we're all in and we love the slowburn, but what we love so much uh I think tell me if I'm wrong, Nick, but something I think we've talked about is we appreciate so much that uh Alfonso's commitment to the slowburn because if you slowburn for a season and then the next one they're completely head over heels in love, we would have gone well awesome, love it, but at the same time, you know, it's it's so much more rewarding and so much more like, ah, finally when they when they So, what I love is in this season, we get a lot of little moments that means so much.
They're so packed. A small like hand on the shoulder is a big deal. A hug is a big deal. A little >> took me off guard.
>> When I saw like the comments, I was like blown away because I was I read some of the comments online and the amount of people that were freaking out because you touched my shoulder.
>> He's like, it's the cutest thing. And I'm like, I I love that these fans love this as much. But >> you're right. He's written it so well and this the slowburn's working because these people are like, "Oh my god, did you see the way she touched his shoulder?" And I'm like, "All right, that's just a shoulder touch, but wow, that's it's awesome how invested and how it is working out. These fans and the people who are watching the show love it so much."
>> But I will say it's not just the way he's writing it. You guys deliver a really good shoulder touch.
I think that's I think that's one thing that we love about Hannah and Wyatt is Alfonso puts really good words in a script. But what we know about these two characters is there's a lot being said even when there's not anything verbal being said and you guys deliver that so well. I'm curious, do you guys talk about like when there's not necessarily something to be said, but you know you're going to throw that look or whatever. Do you guys talk about that or you just trust each other enough to test it and see what works?
>> We don't actually talk about >> we'll go over the lines just so we can like get them like loosely and then we just we we just go in and kind of go with the moment wherever it takes us.
Um, but yeah, there is a lot of subtext that, you know, we we just ride with that we got to feel like in this last episode the lines before something happens. I was like, "No, that's what he went with Alfonso." And I'm like, "Oh, he's not saying this. That's the line, but he's not really saying that. So, I have to say the line like I'm saying something completely different."
>> Yeah.
you when you watch the episode, you'll know what line I'm talking about because it it seems like the most random thing to say in that moment >> and then I don't know if I said that to Sarah, but I was like I'm this is the line which is hilarious but I'm not saying this you like I'm saying this. Um so it is funny that we have to work with certain subtext because Alfonso will write something but like you said he's clever where the line says this but we're not saying that at all. we're actually saying something completely different. And as an actor, you gota obviously roll with that. And I Yeah, I think me and Sarah have been lucky to like kind of like fall into our characters and trust each other's acting and just kind of bounce off each other. So, wherever Sarah goes with it, I'm just going to react naturally how Wyatt would react to Hannah or Sarah. But like when we're on set, like once we start going, we're just we're the characters at that point.
But yeah, I think uh yeah, we don't really talk before, which I think is some actors do, but we we don't really do that.
>> Yeah, I like the I I love the element of surprise because if he throws a look, it does throw me off guard. So that's just an honest moment. And same for him. If I throw him a double take and he sees it, it throws him for a second. So it's all it's just it's just honest. So I I love that there's Well, we'll talk about sometimes the intention underneath. We will talk about that sometimes because I think most of their relationship and that chemistry and that kind of I guess lack of acknowledgement of the feelings here, but it's it's all with what's unsaid. And what I love is Alfonso doesn't pack our scenes with a bunch of dialogue. Um they're quite stripped down and I love that because I do think what they've got that that is unique to them is that there is so much said and what is not said. So, I yeah, I love that because I think a look is far more interesting. Um, personally, just just in a general rule, I just I I love when I'm watching film and television, I love the the silent moments cuz they're so packed and they're so loud. Um, so I actually I just I get excited by by that because yeah, >> we have so much of that which I think is why it's working so well because like watching the show I think we have the most subtext of like I think any characters in the show where it's a lot of like >> us looking at each other thinking something when we're saying something totally different and people are like oh did you catch that? And it's like there's so much like just looking which is great >> and and Nick and I we talk a lot about that. We talk about like what are we both really saying because that's so involved. That is something I think we will throw out there before the scene going okay this is what's said but this is what's going on.
>> Yeah. What's the meaning of this scene?
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. Like like what is this scene trying to say rather Yeah. We'll talk about like where it's going but not how we're going to do it. Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. I think the the whole idea of Hannah having the design opportunity this season has given you guys so many your character so many opportunities to really get to know each other better. I think of even like the funny moment where, you know, she wakes up and she's sewn the dress or the outfit to herself, you know, and Wyatt comes in and that's another opportunity where he doesn't say a whole lot and he's got the look and, you know, he's, you know, he's got a lot going on up in here. um talk a little bit about those kind of fun moments between the two of them because it's like why it's kind of frustrated and irritated at the same time, you know, he's not really.
Yeah, I think I think at this point because we have been a little repetitious with the whole she's overwhelmed, she's not pulling her weight and it has gotten to a point where Wyatt he under it all he does like her. So half of him's pretending to be angry, but a little bit of him is, but a part of him is like, "Well, this is kind of funny." Like, look how look how hard she's worried. She's passed out. And that take, Sarah, makes me laugh every time because not only did it get stuck here, but somehow you pulled your finger and it got something got stuck to your finger, too. Do you remember that?
>> And I was like, "How did I like what a good take?" Because she was like, "Huh, what? Huh?" pulled the finger out and you're like I was like like in real life I was like in the scene I was like genuinely laughing not only as Nick but as Wyatt I'm like it's >> pretty funny the way you nailed that like waking up scene >> was great.
>> Thanks. That's so fun. No, honestly I those are my favorite scenes. some some of my favorite scenes because um they're both so I again I I sometimes struggle with the right words to to describe this but I guess they're they both can be so guarded that the moments where it's even like a crack smile try to cover it up moment even if it's that small again like it's vulnerable and so when you see these little vulnerable moments that they both cannot help it is happening they're experiencing it it's a physical mishap it's a silly moment whatever They both can't not acknowledge that.
And it is funny and it is embarrassing and that those are two vulnerable things. So they kind of get stripped down a little bit from that guarded thing where they kind of have to acknowledge this funny awkward moment.
And I love discomfort. I love when I'm in a scene where I'm uncomfortable or I'm watching someone be uncomfortable. I don't know why. I think it's fantastic.
I just think it's the most relatable fun thing to watch because it is kind of funny and you feel awkward and it's I think it's kind of fun. So yeah, any of those moments between the two of them where they have to acknowledge this thing and they can't keep that exterior I think is fabulous cuz they crack a little bit and you even if that's a small smile, if that's a laugh, it's I think it's beautiful. I think it's so >> in the teaser scene for episode the last episode the finale it's it's us at the dinner.
>> Yeah. So, it's it's another one of those moments where it's like >> so much.
>> So, it's not ruin anything, but like how bad of a dinner she made and seeing that like that reaction. It's >> it's funny. I haven't seen the whole scene yet, but uh again, it's one of those moments where it's like you can't help but laugh at how bad of a cook Hannah is.
>> But, I mean, we're just going to skip to it. We'll come we'll come back to episode five, but we've seen the preview and there's a lot in that preview. I mean, we see candle light. We see Hannah's dressed up. Wyatt's looking sharp. Hannah's tried to make steak, it looks like. But she has a backup plan even. So, there's a lot of intentionality behind. And Wyatt compliments her like several times. This is a loaded moment. There's a lot going on. So, we're excited to see where the dinner goes.
>> Yeah. You're gonna have to wait. But, uh, >> I'm nervous for all of you.
>> It goes somewhere. Um, maybe not maybe not the way people think in a good way, but you'll have to wait and see.
>> That moment looks great.
>> It was fun. Yeah, it was my It was my first scene without a cowboy hat on in the entire show. So, >> you're right.
>> Oh my gosh, you're right.
>> It's such a cool scene because there is such a shift in in a way. Yes and no.
You'll you'll see how it plays out. But the cool thing is it is a first for both of them. Hannah has her hair down and in a dress in a way.
>> Yep. That was on my list, too. Here's him.
>> Yeah. And he and he uh has his hat off.
And these things are they're it's a big deal. And um >> can we call it a date? Can we call it a date?
>> I I don't know. Like I I I feel like they >> There's candle light, hair down, dressed up.
>> We can say that there may be some intention there.
>> Yeah. Right. We can say that >> if it's intended to be a date, I'll take that.
>> Yeah, I would say there's some intention. I think that Sarah hit nailed on the head. There's intention there.
And uh >> who knows why it reads it that way.
>> Okay. One of my favorite scenes of the season so far has been when Hannah gets all of the designs done and we're outside. We're packing them up. The scene is loaded. Ronnie pulls up and you know immediately it's like, "Okay, something is going to happen." I mean, the way it was filmed, staged, you know, something is going to happen. So, we're prepared for that. And of course, things blow up. But then on top of that, we do get Hannah like your reaction Sarah was amazing where it's just like you felt awful for Hannah, but then to see Wyatt just grab her. You said that Hannah kind of like Wyatt did Wyatt grab her? I felt like he grabbed her.
>> Yeah, >> you had to stop.
>> You had to stop her. She wanted to run and grab the fire. I don't know what my next plan was.
I don't know what the next move was, but I wanted the clothes away from the fire.
>> If if we knew Hannah well, I think she would have dipped her hands into that tried to grab those those dresses.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> It was so It was so well done. Talk about it.
>> Oh, thank you. Yeah. No, that scene was such a blast. Um I mean, we only had so many takes because there's so much physically going on with the fire. I love I love uh just everyone behind the scenes did such an incredible job with the flames in the shot. Like it was just so incredibly shot. There's so much drama and excitement and edge of your seat uh energy with that that I loved.
Um but yeah, it was fun for Nick and I because again it's it's kind of like in the first scene where stakes are high and they get forced into a little bit more of a physical connection, an emotional connection, a vulnerable that was a very vulnerable moment um for her for sure.
um where she's not thinking about how she's coming across. All guards are down at that point because she cares so much so um about her her career, her life, what she's worked so hard for. Um and there's such an emotional connection.
It's create it's creative. It's like as actors like a lot of our movies and our shows we're involved in. It feels like there's a very personal relationship to those things. So for Hannah, that's how she feels about her clothes that are burning and are a flame. And she's without thinking, just like if it were her cat, her dog, I don't know, like without thinking, she's she's ready.
That's why she hadn't thought anything through. She just reacted. And it was a very um exposed moment for her. And I love that he was involved and there and showed up and kind of understood the best way to which what I love about that is in very few to no words. I love that it wasn't Hannah, it's going to be okay.
Everything's all right. I could like I love that all he needed to do was hold her. He didn't really say anything. And I love that. That to me is is far more powerful than him trying to talk me down or out of a spiral of of panic. He just understood I just needed to be held for a moment and and physically also wanted to protect me as well, I think. Um, but goes to show from the the second season to to this one that when push comes to shove, when stakes are high, they will both show up for each other always. And I think there is a deep rooted connection there that people keep feeling. And that that that's what makes the little shoulder moments so exciting and fun because when it comes to the real gritty like stuff, they're right there. Like they're there without question and without hesitation, but the little moments are scary for them. Um so I love that. I think that's uh yeah, I just think it's so interesting and and so fun to play. But that scene was awesome. I loved I loved that experience.
>> It was tense for sure. The fact that I love this they use practical fire which a lot of sets won't do that. They'll just use VFX, but they lit that thing on fire.
>> Yeah, it was so cool.
>> And I think it went like they're like, "Oh, the flames will probably go about four feet high." They went like eight feet high. And I think they were pretty shocked at how big the fire got. Um, it was always under control. So, I'm not going to say anything about that, but yeah, it was uh it's cool when they >> actually use practical >> Oh, yeah. moments rather than, you know, the CGI or the fake fire because it always comes off not as authentic. So that fire everyone saw it was it was real, dude. When I was pushing that car, I could feel the heat on my face.
>> Oh, yeah. I bet.
>> Oh, dude. It was But it's fun. It makes the scene more real visceral for uh for me to be in the moment. And uh dude, Ronnie was so funny. Like saying, "Oh, I'll help you with it, but uh my back like >> Oh, so wasn't his line after everything?" Oh dear. Everything that comes out of that man's mouth, it he's fantastic.
>> He's the To me, he's the funniest thing in the entire show. Anytime he's on camera, just his smug looks like when Sam came out in his suit and he was like, "Is that my suit?" Like, >> yeah, there's like a musicality to how he walks and I love that. That's such a thing. Like I hear music every time I see him walking because his walk is specific.
Awesome. But yeah, he he was great to have in that scene because for such a heavy scene where were the the heavy portion, he got to give it w in a in a way that doesn't take away from the weight, the emotional weight of the moment. He got he got to be that little like >> he had just a bit of le perfect amount of comedy without without taking away from from what was going on in in the scene.
>> And then afterwards he's like talking about how your dresses were burned and everything had went down. He's like my car's fine though.
>> Yeah. It's like Ronnie, shut up.
>> He's so great. So fun.
>> Yeah. Of all people to be there in that moment, it was he was perfect.
>> Yeah.
>> I you know, you laugh in you laugh throughout the season. I when he the moments that he has, I physically laugh out loud and hope like nobody heard that, right? Like no, like it's so amazing to watch.
>> On set sometimes, >> literally in a scene that will happen at times.
>> Yeah.
>> Oh, man. mix. So, it's been really fun to watch Wyatt's like passion for, you know, the ranch and and just the community in general looking out for that. We've got this guy that comes in in the last episode and he's trying to buy up all of the land and it was a pretty amazing moment. I loved when Michael steps in at the end of the episode and kind of goes to bat for Wyatt.
I like this friendship. You think that we can take this somewhere? It was really fun to watch that dynamic between you and Chris in that scene.
>> Yeah. No, I that was actually my first scene with Chris, which >> what was it really?
>> Yeah. Like like other other than eight people being in the scene and like Okay, our first scene was me and you walking in to the full Mounties ops and like we've got a problem.
>> That wasn't really a scene. Like it was like that was my first scene with me and Chris only on camera. Um, but I agree. I think it's a really intriguing relationship because typically Wyatt doesn't like the Mounties because they're for order for the right way and sometimes a corporation does things by the book, but it's not best fit the city and typically that's something a Mounty would support. So I am threatening but Wyatt is threatening the guy from L&M cattle company and typically a Mounty would step in and say hey back off like he's legally in his right to do this and if you like the whole show Michael is the most upstanding Mounty you could see.
Like even when Nora admits that she might be involved the way he looks at her I was like oh man. I'm like dude like come on. she's like venting to you that she's like feeling bad about being involved in this and you just look at her like she's a bad like you know like like she's a criminal and I was like wow but then I intimidate this guy and he's like I don't see any threat that was like okay that like but yeah that it's a fun relationship and it makes you really respect that they can I think it intrigued a lot of people that if if anything goes down in Brookfield the ranchers and the Mounties have each other's backs and we saw that a little bit >> in season two which was our first season but again it was still uneasy like the ranchers were angry and wanting to take things into their own hands and then Michael comes in and goes no let us handle it >> and I think that wall got broken down a bit where he gave me the go-ahhead to be like >> all right handle it your way and if you need our help like we'll back you up and it was it was a really cool moment for him to pretty much say threaten away, which why it did, which was uh was good because we we don't want these people taking over Brookfield.
>> So, yeah, and I agree with you. It was like last season they were on opposite sides and they found a middle ground.
This one felt very much like being on the same side, >> which is >> fun for us to think about where that could go. Um I'm intrigued by Is it Tom Clay? Is >> Lucy's father? Yeah. So, I feel like there might be a connection that we will we maybe see some of that in episode six.
>> Yeah. You'll you'll get some, you know, >> get some more answers.
>> Yeah, you'll get some more answers around that plot point, which you should expect the way it's written.
>> Um, but yeah, it's it's an intriguing story to see where where that goes and and what how that unfolds. But yeah.
>> Okay. So, what else can you tease for us when it comes to other than a dinner Hannah and Wyatt in episode 6?
Can >> I would just say the biggest tease of that you could say and you don't know who, but some people stay, some people go, you don't know who.
Um, and it's not how like, and I won't say how long cuz I don't even know these answers, but uh, there are some shocking moments where you some people might leave or stay, and it and it could be any of the characters, and I'll leave it at that. So, it gives enough to intrigue people um, but not enough to ruin who.
Um, so you you kind of get that kind of feeling which might leave you on another like cliffhanger of like, oh, what's going to happen in Brookfield? Which >> Yeah, >> I think any good season finale kind of leaves you wanting more. And I think this one does.
>> Yeah, absolutely. I think the Well, I love a good tease, but they're so hard when you want to just be like, ah, this happens. Um, I would say I would just say you may or may not see, pun intended or or not, not that it's really pun, but um, you may or may not see uh, Hannah and Wyatt uh, lean in a little bit to this relationship and to the feelings they have uh, towards each other. And I'm just going to leave it.
It's as simple as that. I'm going to I'm going to keep it there. If you have pure flicks, you don't have very long to wait to find out. So that's what's really amazing.
>> What storyline other than Hannah's story line and Wyatt story line are you guys most excited for people to see in the finale?
Can you pick one?
>> Me personally, um I don't know. Like it just every like it's balanced so well, which is rare.
And I kind of every time I they change to a storyline, I'm like, "Oh, yeah."
And then I get excited again. And they all make you feel different things. Um, you know, when we're on like Sam and Ronnie, I'm laughing. Um, >> yeah. Yeah. And there's and there's always like with the whole Debbie's Pastries and like it it just and then you can see where their relationship's going with Ronnie and Sam and then with Maggie and Sam that kind of how he's changing and and it's she doesn't know if she likes it, but he's got the same heart. I don't know. It's all intriguing, which is a good problem to have. And then where like Michael and Norah are going, it's again you're like you're getting so close to breaking a wall down and then you're like finding out that >> reassigned to a post that you're like wait what like we just got over a barrier. So >> um I don't know. It's it's hard to really pick one because they they've been balanced very well.
>> Yeah. I um I think in the relationships there's so many beautiful mo uh moments like Nor and Michael. There's so many sweet, vulnerable, beautiful moments between them. I love him wanting to open up to her. Like there's there's so much beautiful moments between them. Uh every time I see Maggie and Sam on camera together, I'm in love with both of them.
Um I just think there's so much so many beautiful moments. Um yeah, Debbie and that story. I love like I just think there's so much life in the town and like I love diving into those story uh lines as well. My my biggest thing is I think how it's how Brookfield has changed. I think that's what I'm really excited about is the community, all worlds colliding, uh the female friendships, the um the you know the ranch world and the mounty world coming together. Like all the worlds kind of >> and the the pastries and the hotel.
Yeah, it's >> it's like everyone's interwined now. But but Nick and I always and everyone on set, it was kind of a joke that like it almost felt like two different shows cuz we film farther down on our lot where we're where we filmed the show. The ranch world is is >> The ranch is way far away, right?
>> But it's Yeah. It's not close close.
It's not right beside the town. So it feels like two different worlds. So I feel like the two worlds collide. And by that Yeah. Exactly. like pastries with the hotel, with the all the all the women coming together with the Mounties and the rancher. Like there's so much of worlds colliding in this season, which makes me so beyond excited. Um the new world where that could go.
>> Yeah. And the new characters are amazing, too. Like uh Jay and like Trevor Domson. Trevor Donovan was in the first one, but their little spark was great.
>> I love that. So good. Um, and the pastor, um, you know, I think the actor's name is Simon, but like the that pastor comes off so genuine and I love his energy he brings to the show and I do feel like when you see him and Nora, there are sparks there. So, >> you kind of said it in front of Chris.
>> Yeah. You don't know who to root for because you see him instantly come in and >> kind of have a connection with Nora and you're like, well, who am I picking here? Mhm.
>> Um cuz obviously you're you're set with the Chris and Nora then you like or Chris and Cindy, but then you see him and the way he interacts with the kids and the town and um like the heart to heart they have sitting on the grass in front of the orphanage. You're like, I dare I say it, but I almost feel like I felt they had more of a connection in the small moments they spent together because all of the moments that Chris and Nora had were all interrupted >> and he wasn't just out of professionalism, he wasn't able to open up and be vulnerable, do any of those things. So, it it's it's a weird pacing where in two seasons you only got like this much uh like fire from Nora and Chris, but in those small like three episodes where the pastor came in, you're like they like caught right up and they're like, hm, who am I rooting for here in this, you know, triangle, this relationship. So, yeah. Yeah, it's it's great. The communities come together and like the cast is growing, but it's growing in a beautiful way.
Sometimes the cast can get like, you know, over bloated and you're like, there's too many stories going on. But I I think it's actually spread out perfectly.
>> Yeah. Nick, when you were talking about um you know, all of the different story lines, I was telling Chris and Cindy when I talked to them a few days ago, I said, you know, sometimes you watch TV and you'll you'll be invested in one story line and then you'll go into the kitchen and you'll fix something to eat because, you know, and I said, I don't leave my couch when I'm watching because I'm so invested in each story line and I think that's just really good writing and then you guys just delivering it because you just get invested in each story line in a different way. And I think that that is really what makes this show so great. You you just want to sit there and watch the whole thing, every part of it. So, and you guys also said those stories are so woven well together that you know, you don't want to leave that. So, >> yeah, the show gives like >> for me this kind of nostalgic feeling.
When I was growing up, I'd always watch something called YTV.
>> Yeah.
>> In Canada. And it there's something about '9s shows that were kind of like a little cheesy but enough to make you feel warm and fuzzy inside. And I like that Brooke watching Brooke feel like when Home Calls makes me feels that feel that way because it's >> there's a there's heightened stakes and everything but it's just like it feels like a warm 90s fuzzy show to me which we just don't in this world anymore.
Like I always look at stuff and like I look I go and watch 90s movies and why don't they make movies like this? cuz like it makes you feel nostalgic >> and I one of my favorite things about our show is it gives me that little bit of nostalgic feel. So I I think it it's got that little special spark like almost like a '9s vibe even though it's 1920 but I I think just the way it it plays out.
>> I always say if people if people watching if they leave with uh with even just like a slight more smile on their face that I'm like we've done our job and what a cool thing to be a part of.
So, I'm like, if people can leave emotionally feeling a little lighter and a little happier. Um, and again, it's it's everyone behind camera, in front of in front of camera, it's Brookfield itself. It's the animals. It's the the brightness that comes with the show. Um, and yeah, people can just emotionally feel lighter and leave leave their couch with a bigger smile on their face. I I love it. I'm all I'm all here for it.
So, I think um yeah, love being a part of that. I think that's so cool.
I asked uh John last season when I interviewed him separately from when I interviewed Neil, who do you want if there's another season to have more screen time with? And they said each other. And look what we got this year.
>> I'm I'm claiming that manifestation. So if there is another season, which we know is going to happen, who Sarah would you like to have more scenes with? And who, Nick, would you like to have more scenes with?
>> Oh, let's start with >> Oh, that's so that's so tricky. I absolutely adore everybody. I'll say the two names that popped in my head pretty quick was Ronnie and Maggie.
>> Those were the two names that popped in my head. Also, Cindy popped in my head.
Um, >> Chris and I joke because we never see each other ever on set. Like, our characters may as well be strangers. We always laugh that we never see each other. And Trevor Donovan, actually, he played my brother in a in a movie and we always laugh because we call each other brother sister and we never see each other. So, um, yeah. No, I adore everyone on this set so much. But yeah, the first few that came to my head, I do have some scenes with Ronnie and and Maggie, but not a ton. Um, and again, Cindy and I have they have a pretty wonderful friendship, so I' I'd love to for our characters to lean in a bit more into that, but yeah.
>> Okay, Nick. Um, I would say probably Chris because anytime that me and Chris are going to be doing something together, it's going to be something serious happening. Like we're going to be doing something to protect the town. So, I kind of like leaning into that cuz like we I've had a lot of amazing moments with Hannah obviously, but it it'd be fun to get gritty on doing more scenes where I have to protect a city and be kind of a hero when it comes to similar to what Chris does. So, I think even that scene was fun for me to for the first time be interacting with the Mounties and like kind of stepping out of the ranch. And then I would also like Wendy. It's always fun acting with Wendy because she is just >> she's a star. Like she's Wendy Kruen.
So, I I think uh anytime that I get to do a scene with Wendy, I love it because it's uh it's an honor to it's an honor to act with anyone, but with someone who's been acting >> and as well seasoned as um Wendy is, >> it's always good to as an actor, you're always learning and it's fun to work with actors who are so um well-versed and and experienced. So, you get to watch them and like marvel in someone who's been in the craft for so long. So, um I'd say those two like one for just the fact that when I'm in scenes with Chris that I get to like be doing really badass stuff is Wyatt.
>> Um and then others for being my selfish reasons being able to work with, you know, a seasoned actor like Wendy.
>> All great choices.
>> So, question before I let you guys go.
Do either of you have any projects outside of When Hope Calls Brookfield that you're working on that you want to let anybody know about?
Um, I do, but >> we've seen a little bit.
>> Uh, well, I I'm in the midst of releasing a book, which is kind of cool.
So, >> that's what I was hoping you'd bring.
>> That's so cool. That's >> So, me and my wife have spent two years writing a novel, and it's um it's releasing on actually, you know, I can't I can't say the release date because I'm actually revealing it tomorrow. Um, so I'm I'm revealing the book cover tomorrow.
>> So, no one no one knows the name of the book and no one knows what the cover looks like, >> but uh all I have said is it's a suspense romance novel and it's uh >> it's been a it's it's one of the best experience of my life writing this book and I I can't get through the book without like tearing up. And I'm not like a crier. It's just it's funny. My entire life I did martial arts. I've never been like an overly emotional guy, but I wrote this book from my heart. And when people read it, they'll see why.
Um, it like it hits people in like a hard spot. But, uh, yeah, that's kind of what I've been engulfed in. I just finished three weeks of recording the audio book, which has been >> That's awesome.
>> I've never like, you know, as actors Sarah, we do ADR, but to do a >> 310 page novel, >> a lot of work. it it's like it's a lot it's a lot of work. So, it's like many hours in the the booth and then just you can't mess up on any dialogue because it's it's an audio book. So, that's kind of a fun side project that has just been an insane experience and I'm excited for people to enjoy it because similar as an actor making a character or writing a script or something like that, I've been able to like put my passion into this and when people read this book, I want them to come away changed like they felt something and they learned something.
So, uh, it's going to be a fun journey over the next few months to see how this book affects people. So, that's a little bit. And tomorrow, people will get to see what the name of it is. And, uh, >> hey.
>> Yeah, it's awesome.
>> So cool.
>> So, we'll find out on your Instagram account.
>> Yeah. Yeah, I'll put it on the Instagram account, and then tomorrow will be uh what the book cover is, what the name of the book is, and when the release date of the book is.
>> Okay. That's exciting. Yeah.
>> Sarah, anything? Or are you just going to be showing up to read his book?
>> I am going to show up and read the book.
I don't know how long it's going to take to get through those 300 pages, but I'll do it.
>> I I love it. I'm into it. Um uh I I guess there I I'm in the midst of I I'm working on um a pilot uh with my writing partner and we've kind of got the whole package concept, pitch deck, everything put together. So those processes and how much I can say is so little to none that it's going to be >> writers. Look at you guys.
>> Well, the cool thing is you learn a lot about being an actor by writing. So I'm always like there's such a win-win all over. And when you're just so desperately wanting to pour all your creativity into anything, it's it's just um I think that's why so many creative people have so wear so many hats because we want to be creative 12 hours a day and and we don't always have the opportunity to do that. So uh so anyway, so it's it's it's a lot is finished and ready to now be in a position of kind of shopping this concept, this idea, which we've had some interest in, which is really exciting. Um but that's as exciting as that news gets cuz it's just it's such a long process. So it's um yeah, something I'm really excited about and I've learned so much. Uh I can say it's in the world of comedy because I love comedy so much. I think it's one of the greatest things and uh yeah so I'm very excited about about that but that you know ask me in a few years and hopefully I'll have a different you know different >> hopefully this will all be history and the pilots's picked up and we're all laughing >> right that's right >> we're all laughing at how good the show is because yeah you you great in comedy like the small comedic moments you get to have as Hannah are >> they're awesome >> thanks >> so good >> great Well, both of you guys, congratulations on a great season. It has been so enjoyable for us to watch.
We're listening for the announcement for the next season already. So excited for the season finale that everybody listening or watching is going to air on Great American Pure Flick in less than 24 hours. And then on Sunday night, it's going to be on Great American Family and GFam Plus. We got some great teasers.
Again, thank you guys so much for joining me and I'm excited to check out the book, be looking for a book down the road and uh watch this finale with you guys. So, thanks so much. I can't wait.
Thank you.
>> All right. Bye bye.
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