Nanny Gate, Leather Goods & Breastfeeding

Added: 2026-06-03

[00:00:00]All right, welcome back. Canal Street Dreams. I am no longer locked out of the bedroom. We had a wonderful last two days. We're back. We are so back.

[00:00:09]>> So back.

[00:00:10]>> Natasha, I will give you the floor. Why don't you tell everybody what happened?

[00:00:13]>> So what had happened was the Knicks are doing phenomenal. Okay, they're on a run. It's amazing.

[00:00:22]Bow House is popping. It's a good place to watch the game.

[00:00:26]We had happened to invite our nanny to come watch the game.

[00:00:31]>> You invited her >> while I was here. While I was here with our son. I prepped the whole day. This was like whatever it was a week and a half ago. I don't know which game.

[00:00:40]>> I'm sure this account is truthful. You know, >> this account is truthful. We had prepped the whole day. We were like, "Sa is going to take a nap. He's no longer taking naps for anyone interested." But we were like, he's going to take a nap because the game starts at 8:00 and we're going to have him out until like 1000 p.m. So, our nanny is a huge Knicks fan. She's young. This isn't an older nanny. This is a young nanny that needs to be addressed. This is a young fun nanny who's in the streets. She was watching all of the games at MSG, like at the watch parties.

[00:01:09]Those ended. So, we were like, why don't I'm going to be there. Senna's going to be there. She was like, I have a birthday in East Village with my home girl. We're going to come by after.

[00:01:18]Great. Easy. Boom.

[00:01:21]We were all here having a good time. We were, you know, sending her and her home girl some drinks, some boughs, whatever they wanted. And then I took Senna home.

[00:01:31]It was a great night. Beautiful night.

[00:01:33]Knicks won. And then the next game rolled around to which I did not invite her to bow house, but it's a public space which she's welcome at. She texted me, "I'm gonna come by for the game. Are you and Senna going?" And I was like, "Gh, we've been out all day at the park.

[00:01:49]He hasn't napped. We're running around.

[00:01:50]Like, we're probably not going to make it, but have so much fun."

[00:01:54]So, again, I don't care. That doesn't bother me that she's going to come to Bow House. So, I have now it's about, I don't know, 5:00 p.m. The night goes on.

[00:02:06]I'm with our son at home solo parenting as I do most of the time by myself.

[00:02:11]>> I solo pay bills most of the time. solo pays bills, but I solo parent and I also work and I also do the podcast. But anyways, um so while I was at home, I put him to sleep. The I'm like thinking, okay, when is Eddie going to come home? We haven't spoken. Hours go by. It's like 11:30, 12. And I see a picture posted.

[00:02:35]>> This is 11:00. The game started at 8.

[00:02:38]>> Yeah. But at this point, the picture is posted at 11:30.

[00:02:41]>> 11.

[00:02:43]like 11:30. I could look it up.

[00:02:44]>> You look it up. I could look it up. Look it up. Look it up.

[00:02:47]>> Yeah, it was about 11:30.

[00:02:52]>> Let me see.

[00:02:53]>> 3 hours later.

[00:02:54]>> 10:46.

[00:02:55]>> Okay. 10:46.

[00:02:56]>> 10:46.

[00:02:57]>> Whatever. It says 11:30 here. Our correspondence went up. 10:46.

[00:03:00]>> 10:46.

[00:03:02]>> This man posts a photo outside of Bow House.

[00:03:07]>> Been drinking drunk >> with seven.

[00:03:10]>> Clearly with seven dudes. and our nanny directly next to him with her arm around him and like >> not around on. We're gonna show the photo.

[00:03:18]>> Yeah, we'll show the photo was like this.

[00:03:20]>> So, you don't have to describe the photo because you have to come to their own conclusions.

[00:03:23]>> Who knows?

[00:03:24]>> No, people will come to their own conclusion. I really hope they see this photo.

[00:03:28]>> And here's the situation is I don't care that she was here and having a good time. And I don't even care that she was in the photo. What I care about is the disregard and disrespect to me as your wife to not even think like, "Oh, should I post this public photo of myself and our nanny drunk at 11:00 at night when my wife isn't there to the public bow house account? I just think that's flagrant and has like clearly you didn't think of me and clearly you don't give a [ __ ] about my feelings is the message that I receive." This is and this is an important episode because I would like to show that the male and female brain, they're just not the same because clearly what she's not realizing is that the Knicks have not won a championship since 19 >> which I don't give a [ __ ] about.

[00:04:16]>> 73 >> cuz they suck years before my dad shot the club up and I was born.

[00:04:22]>> Okay. So since 1973, the Knicks have not won. What is at the forefront of my mind in this moment is just pure ecstasy. I'm playing Dip Set for two hours in here with the homies. We're playing Dipset Champions off the Dame Dash mixtape. We all go outside to take a photo. I don't even know the nanny is there. Look at the photo. Everybody take a look at the photo. I got my hand on the homie Dustin. My hand is on Dustin. I'm focused on Dustin and I have a finger pointed to the camera and that finger is being pointed at the next team that the Knicks play. I'm completely locked in this finals run. I'm not thinking about the nanny. The nanny is doing her own thing. God bless her.

[00:05:06]>> That's your employee.

[00:05:09]>> The nanny I cannot control the nanny.

[00:05:11]>> It's just crazy.

[00:05:12]>> And also this if the nanny pulls up in the photo, this is this is a photo of me and my homies the night the next one. So here's what they should not pull up in the f the nanny needs to know.

[00:05:22]>> Here is what Eddie's telling anything.

[00:05:24]He lacks all agency. He lacks all autonomy and he lacks all accountability. He is low e and low IQ at work and on it was on the house to say this was not on my personal >> accountability lacks a operator and the chef. I'm the third role I have at the restaurant is as your husband. My first role is operator. My second role is chef. I also run the social media account and it just >> Well, you failed as my husband, so we'll see how the other ones go.

[00:05:54]>> But I succeeded as the operator and chef and a Knicks fan.

[00:05:58]>> Yeah. I don't know.

[00:05:58]>> And then I got And then I got locked out. I got locked out of the house.

[00:06:01]>> I think it was warranted. I think if I didn't lock you out, I'd be a weak ass [ __ ] [ __ ] with no backbone. And I think that's what you want.

[00:06:07]>> No, it's not what I want. I just I would like for you to just >> not stand up for myself.

[00:06:17]>> No, just not center yourself in everything. Like, >> well, here's the thing. Here's the difference between you. I have autonomy.

[00:06:24]I take accountability and I don't have a low EQ.

[00:06:27]>> When you post videos from pole dancing class, I'm not like, yo, >> what are you thinking? You're a mom. Was Chef Ray was I pole dancing on Chef Ray?

[00:06:38]>> I lay down on my back and I jerk off.

[00:06:40]That's what I do.

[00:06:41]>> I lay down on my back and I jerk.

[00:06:43]>> Okay. So, next time I post a video and I'm pull dancing with Chef Ray, maybe it will be the same thing. But until that's what I'm saying. It's your You're telling me that the same thing when I'm posting a video of myself.

[00:06:53]>> Why? Wait. Wow. How does chef She's our employee. What you're What you did was with our employee. That's your employee.

[00:06:59]So, it is it's not apples and oranges.

[00:07:00]It's app customer. She is a customer.

[00:07:03]>> But she's also our employee.

[00:07:05]She works for us.

[00:07:07]>> So, she's in a photo with people, the other customers while your wife isn't there with her arm around you. That's a little sus. And if you don't think that it is, I don't want to date you. I don't want to marry you and I don't want to be in a relationship with you. We went over the type of manag. But then what what has happened here is this is what I have realized. I love you. I want to be here.

[00:07:26]I want to be in this family. So, I am going to just I'm eating it. My fault.

[00:07:32]My bad.

[00:07:33]>> Accountability. Thank you so much.

[00:07:35]That's really all it takes.

[00:07:36]>> And you know what? I'm going to And this is what I would like for all the other people in relationship listening this pod to know.

[00:07:45]>> You may not agree with something.

[00:07:47]>> But if you love somebody, you do it for them. That's what I'm doing. I do not agree.

[00:07:53]>> I I I fundamentally do not agree, but I'm happy to do this. And I'm happy to never take a photo >> with >> with our Danny while you're out drinking without your wife again. Next time if it were ever happened, I would just be like, "Hey, um, just boundary. I'm going to take this photo with the homies."

[00:08:08]>> Yeah. There won't be next time. I'll put you at the base of a tree.

[00:08:11]>> That is that is on them because we do have to have boundaries here. I need to respect my wife while operating this restaurant and being the chef and calling my friends to come watch the Nick game.

[00:08:22]>> 100%.

[00:08:24]>> I'm going to call you not agree, but I hope that my whole dancing class. I hope that you see the gesture as me being like, you know what, >> you're more important than the Knicks or me operating or as a chef, I care how you feel. Will not happen again.

[00:08:39]>> That's that's it, man. That's it. I think relationships are that when you hurt somebody, instead of saying you're crazy, you're insane. How dare you have a feeling about this very legitimate thing that I did, just say, "Wow, I'm sorry I hurt you." and move on.

[00:08:53]>> Wow, I am sorry I hurt you.

[00:08:55]>> Thank you so much for that. Um very very real apology that you meant from the bottom of your heart.

[00:09:02]>> I slept on the couch. That was me doing apology. I slept on the couch.

[00:09:05]>> No apology.

[00:09:06]>> Slept on the couch. It ruined the week.

[00:09:07]And also it's just like if I if I could ask something from you. We have a lot going on. We're training the new GM.

[00:09:16]>> Absolutely. I'm still also operating here as a chef.

[00:09:19]>> I also have the book coming out in two weeks.

[00:09:24]Maybe maybe we can table any sort of World War III level grievance in the home >> for for two weeks.

[00:09:33]>> Tabled. But I think my grievances were fair and I stand by that. But it's tabled and it's squashed.

[00:09:38]>> Yeah. Wonderful.

[00:09:39]>> I just think you got to know the type of person that you're you marry. You know what I mean? Like you know that I'm going to fight and if I feel disrespected I'm not going to like when have I'm not a quiet I'm not a meek quiet person. We could take it back to Summerhouse when we were watching Amanda sit on the couch and just like be annihilated. Like could never be me.

[00:09:56]Could never be me. I have too much to say.

[00:09:59]>> Yeah. Which is why I'm just I'm choosing to apologize even though I don't agree on any level.

[00:10:04]>> Okay.

[00:10:04]>> Yeah. Yeah. Let's Should we do listener questions?

[00:10:07]>> There's not that many.

[00:10:08]>> There not that many. Let's do a couple questions.

[00:10:11]>> I'm going to do I'm gonna I'm gonna do Chef Ray's question.

[00:10:14]>> Good. Good.

[00:10:17]>> Okay. Actually, since we have Chef Ray here, why doesn't Chef Ray just ask the question on the mic?

[00:10:20]>> Okay. Yeah. Ask the question. Ask the question live.

[00:10:23]>> Come ask the question live. We love this. Jaden, if you have any questions, come ask a question.

[00:10:28]>> Please >> come over and ask a question. All right.

[00:10:30]Here's Chef Ray's question.

[00:10:34]>> How do you feel about being a reverse uh Oxford study?

[00:10:39]>> Wait, what?

[00:10:40]>> So, an Oxford study is when a typically a Caucasian man marries or dates M >> an oriental woman. So this is the Uno reverse and I think it's pretty cool.

[00:10:52]>> Yes. How do you feel?

[00:10:56]>> Well, I I feel two ways, right? I feel >> you feel colonized.

[00:11:02]>> No, I don't feel colonized. I always get with the winning team and we know we know China's about to win. So I did do that. I secured my future and the future of my son, you know what I my family.

[00:11:15]But I do feel like two ways. Like the same way in Jewish culture they say like you're not Jewish unless your mom is. I feel like you're not like Asian enough as a way unless your mom is the Asian one. Is what I've like heard from the collective. But then I I've just like read that a lot online like people will be like just like whatever like just in the zeitgeist of like you know Tik Tok and like Twitter and Instagram like the sentiment is like if your mom is Asian you're Asian but if you're dad is the Asian one like you're going to you're always just going to be predominantly more engulfed in your mom's culture which I don't feel is true for us.

[00:11:51]>> Yeah. I think that especially with Chinese dads like Mr. Chow >> I would say all his kids is pretty Asian. Are the the mothers not Asian of his I don't know what his children >> they're Asian. They're Asian. I believe so. I didn't know that. I believe so.

[00:12:06]And then the Aokis like >> uh what's it called? Benihana.

[00:12:12]>> His kids I feel like they identify Asian. Like >> fair, >> you know, but for me, and I could be incorrect, but we will check. But I'm pretty sure Max is Wayian. Max Chow is Wayian. Okay. And Max very much, I feel like, is like >> into Chinese culture. Child's current wife is white, but they have like a very young child, which would be like >> But he had the other mom. Yeah. Uh, >> no, I think, you know, definitely growing up it was like the Asian homies would be like fetishizing dating white women, right?

[00:12:47]There's a chapter of Fresh Off the Boat called Pink Nipples >> that's like >> shout of the pink nipples.

[00:12:52]>> Shout out Pink Nipples, right? was like, "We got to see these things in person live."

[00:12:56]>> Cuz like I got the I got the soy sauce [ __ ] My [ __ ] got seafood soy.

[00:13:01]>> Breath of the walk. Breath of the breath of the walk is on our nipples. And uh so I definitely was like as a young kid like, "Whoa, what's it like to like hook up with a white girl?" First girl I hooked up with was a white girl, but then I dated a Taiwanese girl for seven years. And that was that was cool. But like ultimately for me, >> back to bodying yourself again.

[00:13:21]>> Yeah. For ultimately for me, >> you bound my foot.

[00:13:25]>> For me, it's just like Natasha is just my person. Natasha is my person. Like honestly, >> I do think >> to I She's the only person I've ever conformed my behavior for that I disagree with.

[00:13:39]>> That's true.

[00:13:40]>> And I think that's real.

[00:13:41]>> I recently did while we were beefing, a funny thing happened. It was great. I know you were there. I just heard I just heard you guys I heard you guys went birking shopping while we were >> Yeah. Great. Tell us about this. Tell us what happened.

[00:13:52]Uh, I just went to go get my [ __ ] MacBook repaired for free. Shout out to Eddie.

[00:13:57]>> And Eddie was spiraling >> and then we kind of just went from the Apple store and sold to this whole block of what what do we have? Dior, >> YSL, >> YSL, >> Balenciaga, Lee, Bayga. We went in every store.

[00:14:12]>> And And it was funny. The sales reps were like, "What are you looking for?" I was like, "I just need my wife to stop banging on me." Like, do you have a bag that will get my wife to stop banging on me?

[00:14:24]>> Like, I just need this to end. Like, >> that is the thing.

[00:14:28]>> Yeah.

[00:14:28]>> Like, Asian people, we bound foot. She like bound my brain.

[00:14:33]>> Yeah.

[00:14:33]>> Cuz even when I disagree, there's nowhere for my brain to go and I'm just like, buy leather goods. Buy leather goods.

[00:14:40]>> Buy leather goods. Cuz I have matured and gotten to the point in our relationship and my life. Yeah.

[00:14:44]>> Where I have to say, I would be really sad if I wasn't with you. Yeah, >> I would be really sad. Yeah. I just >> I've never acknowledged that with anyone else. I don't talk to my mother.

[00:14:55]>> Do you know what I'm saying? Like I don't talk to my father. I don't talk to my youngest brother. Like >> there are people where I'm like I'm going to be better without communicating with you.

[00:15:04]>> And while it's a bummer, I do think I'm better off.

[00:15:07]>> Yeah. with you. I've just had to acknowledge like >> it really sucks because I don't feel in control of my life at times, but I have to be with you. I love you, >> you know?

[00:15:20]>> Yeah. I love you, too.

[00:15:22]>> It's It's just And I think that's what we sign up for when we do love, romance, relationships. And it's true vulnerability. It's like if I agreed with everything and you agreed with everything, >> we that wouldn't be the relationship >> we would be doing.

[00:15:38]>> Yeah.

[00:15:38]>> Right. And it's like even with Chef Ray, like if if I was working with a chef du cuisine who's just like, "Chef, you're a genius. Everything is so good. The food would be ass."

[00:15:50]>> Yeah. It doesn't work.

[00:15:51]>> Like I disagree with Ray today. I was like, "Why aren't we frying halumi?"

[00:15:54]He's like, "I want to fry goat cheese."

[00:15:56]And I'm like, "I really wanted halumi, but you know what? I see >> why you're going for goat cheese. I see why you think goat cheese is more us.

[00:16:04]You know what? Let's go for it. And like that's what makes things great.

[00:16:08]>> Mhm.

[00:16:09]>> Goat cheese.

[00:16:12]>> I love goat cheese.

[00:16:14]>> I love you. Like honestly that that's why like we don't need to agree and like I hope you get to this at some but I'm just like I don't need to agree.

[00:16:23]>> I I don't I don't need you to feel how I feel. Yeah.

[00:16:28]>> I just want you to be happy.

[00:16:29]>> Oh, same.

[00:16:30]>> I do. I want you to be happy. I [ __ ] love you.

[00:16:33]>> And even if we disagree, >> it's okay cuz >> I don't love you cuz we agree.

[00:16:40]>> I love you cuz you're you.

[00:16:41]>> Yeah.

[00:16:42]>> I love you cuz you're crazy as [ __ ] >> Yeah, I know.

[00:16:48]>> You scare the [ __ ] out of You scare the [ __ ] out of everybody.

[00:16:50]>> I know.

[00:16:51]>> I'm terrified.

[00:16:53]>> I know.

[00:16:55]I always think of like I'm always so shocked by that sentiment when people are like, "You're a little intimidating when I met you." And I'm like, "I'm so sweet." And I'm like, "No, I'm not. No, >> I'm a [ __ ] [ __ ] honestly."

[00:17:05]>> But it's okay. I I'll I own it. I take accountability for my [ __ ] >> But also, I've learned a lot and grown because like I had a therapist that was like, "You tend to punish people in relationship." Me, >> but no one had done it to me besides my parents. Everyone else around me was kind of too shook.

[00:17:26]>> Yeah.

[00:17:27]>> But with you, >> I get punished a lot. I'm in like I'm in timeout a lot.

[00:17:33]>> Yeah.

[00:17:34]>> And I'm like, "Oh, that doesn't feel good." And I now I remove it from my game. And like >> Yeah. We're Spider-Man meme.

[00:17:41]>> Yeah.

[00:17:42]>> We do a lot of the same [ __ ] >> And I learn by not liking what happens to me sometimes. And one of the cooks here, actually, Ibrahim the other day was saying something. I was like, Ibrahim, do you feel like I'm punishing or I'm like a tough chef? He goes, "No, I feel like when you have something to say, chef, you do it in conversation."

[00:17:59]>> Like, I conversate with them and I talk through it. Unless it's Jasper, cuz Jasper, I'm just like, you trigger me.

[00:18:07]I'm going to throw a bow at you, >> Jasper.

[00:18:10]>> Shout out to the shout out to the flying.

[00:18:13]>> I watched the reenactment and I actually was like, >> I kind of like that. Like, I like that move. I think you need to bring a bow plate into the bedroom.

[00:18:22]>> I would not mind getting a bow thrown at me in the bedroom.

[00:18:25]>> I'm not doing it.

[00:18:25]>> Not a bow, but like I don't know.

[00:18:28]>> It's so funny like >> cuz when we met too, you would be like in the bedroom you were like into being submissive and stuff.

[00:18:35]>> Yeah.

[00:18:36]>> And I do my thing, but like I don't go as far as I think you prefer.

[00:18:42]>> Yeah.

[00:18:43]>> Because of what my dad used to do to my mom.

[00:18:46]>> Does that make sense? I'm like, yo, I like I can't role play abusive man. I I don't do it.

[00:18:52]>> Yeah, >> I'll throw a bow at Jasper. I can't throw it at you is what I'm trying to say.

[00:18:58]>> $21. You wasted on me.

[00:19:00]>> It's $21.

[00:19:02]Inflation, baby.

[00:19:03]>> Yeah, >> that's crazy.

[00:19:05]>> Yeah, I know. We can't waste $21.

[00:19:07]>> All right, next question. Next question.

[00:19:09]>> Next question. This is a leg incredible legitimate question to go.

[00:19:15]>> I am not making this up. This is a legitimate question. When is Natasha getting a [ __ ] Birkin? This is a real question. That's >> Do you want the surprise blown?

[00:19:23]>> No, no, no, no, no. Don't blow it. Okay.

[00:19:25]Someone said, >> "Stop [ __ ] asking."

[00:19:27]>> Someone says, "What's someone What's something?" Someone really asked. I didn't make I'm not making it up.

[00:19:32]>> Someone said, "So, >> you really think you're not getting it?

[00:19:35]And when you're going to get this, you are going to surprise. You You know, there was a there was a song that was like I can't remember which rapper said it. It's like you about to feel the power of street knowledge." And I was like, when you get this, you are going to understand I love you.

[00:19:50]>> Like, >> I know now.

[00:19:51]>> You're going to understand.

[00:19:52]>> I know now.

[00:19:53]>> I'm not even going to be like, I told you so. I'm just going to enjoy the rest of my [ __ ] life.

[00:19:57]>> It's going to be beautiful.

[00:19:58]>> [ __ ] >> We have two questions. One is an interesting one. I kind of want to go with this one to get the heat off of you for a second. If a mom breastfed her baby/toddler mostly because she enjoys it, is it sexual abuse?

[00:20:13]>> No. I >> he loves it.

[00:20:16]>> He still tries to breastfeed.

[00:20:17]>> Well, the question is most if if they're doing it mostly because the mother is enjoying it.

[00:20:24]>> I think you have to define enjoy because I while I did not enjoy the actual physical sensation and feeling of it because once your baby gets teeth which happens your kid can get teeth at 3 months like Senna got teeth very early.

[00:20:40]It hurts. It doesn't feel good for most.

[00:20:44]Like it it hurts. Like of course you're more sensitive because you're breastfeeding all the time, but like I enjoyed the bonding, but I don't think that that's like sexual abuse. I think that it's very natural and I think that in most cultures like >> I see I see what she's or I see what this person is asking in that like if you if your child we're going to assume the child doesn't want to breastfeed or isn't that interested. I think that's what they're asking. If the child's not that interested in breastfeeding, >> but you're consciously consciously doing it because you enjoy it.

[00:21:18]>> I could see that as a sexual abuse. I can see that. Actually, I'm going to agree with I could for sure as a child gets older. I think that as the only thing I will say is that like when you're infant is born in the hospital and like at least my experience I've heard the complete opposite, but my experience was like I I was very pressured into breastfeeding. I didn't know what I wanted to do either way. I I said that from the beginning. I was like, I don't know if I'm going to breastfeed. I don't know if I'm going to formula feed. I don't know. I'm just going to see what happens. Breastfeeding was very easy for me. It came very easy, but the nurses were like very pushy to do it. They didn't want me to formula feed. They were like, "Keep going. Keep going. Keep trying. Keep trying. Keep trying." And I think that like if you have a doula or if you have a midwife that maybe >> if you have a doula, make sure she charges her car the day you're going to deliver your child.

[00:22:07]>> Yes. But I think you will be told as a mom that like, and I don't agree with this, but if you can breastfeed, do it and keep trying. And there's lactation specialists and there's all these things. So, while your baby is an infant, yeah, I think if your kid's a toddler and is like, I don't want to [ __ ] breastfeed anymore. Like, if your kid can talk, yeah, that's abuse if you're like forcing that on them. But, I think when you have an infant and you keep try and you're really trying to do this thing because you think that it's good for your child and you want to bond with them and like you want that.

[00:22:34]>> Yeah.

[00:22:35]>> Her question is like if you're sexually enjoying >> Yeah. I think that that's weird. That's weird. Point blank. That's straight up.

[00:22:41]It's weird to sexually enjoy anything with your child. And I think that you need to explore explore something deeper than just breastfeeding. I think that there's something wrong.

[00:22:49]>> Yeah. You got to you got to draw the line there. If you're like >> if you're even getting horny doing it, like you may need to I don't know.

[00:22:58]>> Or even just to like think of this question feels odd to me. Do you know what I mean? Like >> I like the question. I like the question, but I think for your mind going there, >> here's the thing is I don't think people need to be ashamed. I think this shows self-awareness.

[00:23:12]>> I think this shows self-awareness. You cannot control what turns you on.

[00:23:17]>> What you can control is behavior and action.

[00:23:19]>> So like I actually think it's very cool if this person is like, "Yo, acknowledging and being aware that I'm sexually turned on by my child feeding on my chest.

[00:23:30]>> Yeah.

[00:23:30]>> The child seems to not be interested.

[00:23:33]>> Is this bad behavior?"

[00:23:36]>> They're actually asking the right question.

[00:23:37]>> Yeah. And also like your adult partner can also do that for you. Like if that's what turns you on.

[00:23:42]>> Like the other day Santa was licking my arm and I was like, "Dude, stop. Stop.

[00:23:46]This is weird. Weird. Like I don't like this."

[00:23:48]>> No. Sometimes he'll try to like mouth kiss me and I'm like, "Don't make out with me. Like I don't want to make out."

[00:23:52]>> As a parent, I think you're you got to be responsible. Be like, "Yo, bro. I know you have these weird urges, but we got to chill."

[00:23:58]>> Totally.

[00:23:58]>> We got to chill.

[00:23:59]>> Um >> I I will say I I did like when you were lactating. That [ __ ] was fire.

[00:24:05]>> It was hot. Like it was like I thought it was hot.

[00:24:08]>> Like if you're on top and there's just milk dripping from the ceiling. I'm like oh my god. I'm like I was like Lil Wayne no ceilings like oh oh my god >> I think it's hot.

[00:24:16]>> There's milk coming from the ceiling >> for sure. I mean I just had like No, I just totally I had shottas on during service and there's like fully a scene that I forgot in the beginning of that movie like they're at a party and some girl just takes her titty out and they're like sucking on her titty. Like literally they're like breastfeeding from her and I was like yeah that is hot like for adults to do but like not with your child please.

[00:24:35]>> Yeah. This I like this question a lot.

[00:24:37]Is it possible for farming to be cool again or just wholesome? I started a farm with my boyfriend because we like quality ingredients. Not sure how to talk about the project SOS.

[00:24:48]So, it seems like this person started a farm with her boyfriend and they're not sure if that's cool and or like how to get the message about them doing this and like liking high quality ingredients to the world. How do you get that message out in a cool way?

[00:25:02]>> Okay. I I my I would say I think gardening is cool, but I think asking and wondering if other people think is cool, waste of your time.

[00:25:12]>> Yeah, >> absolutely waste your time. If you think something's cool is cool.

[00:25:16]>> Yeah.

[00:25:16]>> If you enjoy doing it, do it.

[00:25:18]>> And like totally the way to get the word out is just to share your passion for this thing. Yeah. And I I think it's really important when doing a craft, a hobby, something you love, no one needs to be in your head in that space when you're doing it, that is for you.

[00:25:34]>> Totally. And I think the more authentic you are in the way that you share what you think is cool with the world, excuse me, the right people will come. the people that also are like-minded and that think that is cool and are interested and looking for that will find it because if that's your natural inclination, you're going to gravitate towards those spaces or somebody's going to put you on or somebody's going to send you like whatever. It's going to be in your sphere whether you're liking it or not. Um, but this is a good one.

[00:26:02]What's something we don't know about both of you?

[00:26:07]>> Okay. What do you think people don't know about me and then I'll say about you?

[00:26:10]>> Okay. I think people I mean I know people know how intelligent you are, but I don't think they know like you're real. And I hate to say it cuz it's not true all the time, but I think that there's like a version of you that is just very intelligent and sensitive and like maybe not so extroverted or outgoing. And I think a lot of people don't see that version of you >> or know that like while you are so approachable and like giving energetically, I think that you're most yourself >> truly like when you're getting to be introverted and writing and just like being tapped into your more sensitive side. And I think that the things that really matter to you are not what people would assume.

[00:26:56]>> Yeah. I have to get up to like go out.

[00:26:59]Mhm.

[00:27:00]>> And the old me, you know, when I was like partying and doing [ __ ] if I was going to go out one night, I could not do anything during the day, >> I had to save up all my energy.

[00:27:10]>> I'll probably sleep between like 5 and 9:00 and then go out.

[00:27:14]>> And that was the only way for me to do it because like >> talking to people, being around it really drains me.

[00:27:21]>> I am my best self. couch rotting, watching sports at home, writing, hanging with you.

[00:27:27]>> And uh yeah, I think the extrovert thing is like a it's like a mask that I use >> to like get through life and get through the world.

[00:27:38]>> I guess I I'm funny.

[00:27:40]>> People enjoy being around me. And >> I'm like, "All right, if you want to hang out, I'll get it together. I'll find the energy. I'm going to come hang out." Cuz I do really like people. I just get my feelings hurt easy, I think.

[00:27:51]>> Yeah. I think I'm really sensitive. I think I get my feelings hurt. And like it's draining when you get your feelings hurt and you still got like three hours out >> with the homies.

[00:28:02]>> That's honest. That's just me being honest. Like little little things will hurt my feelings and drain me and I'm like, >> "Ah, [ __ ] Don't think about it." You know?

[00:28:10]>> Yeah.

[00:28:11]>> Yeah. I would say that definitely you're more introverted than I think a lot of people.

[00:28:15]>> And I think that's a good one. Yeah. in our like genuine like day-to-day lives when we're not working, the the preference is to be home like cozy on the couch. Like we're not we don't go out and like party. If we do, it's work.

[00:28:30]Like 100% it's workrelated. Like when we go out and get a drink, it's so funny.

[00:28:34]We're like looking at each other at 10 p.m. and we're like, "Can we leave?"

[00:28:36]>> Yeah. Like please. We're looking at each other like, "Can we go now?" Like we're not two adults >> that can make that decision. Like my best relationships are when I have an activity or hobby with someone and we're doing something, we're building something and we get to do it and then like hang like get a meal after.

[00:28:57]>> Yes.

[00:28:57]>> Like if I if I go box with Harold and get lunch, that's my like ideal afternoon.

[00:29:03]>> If Chef Ray and I work on some [ __ ] and then go eat somewhere after, like ideal.

[00:29:09]>> Yeah. Sean, we go to the baths and talk about writing, go eat. Like, that's what I really enjoy is like we have a craft >> that we can talk about and through that conversation, you reveal things and I reveal things, but we can both pretend like it's not about each other.

[00:29:28]>> But it is.

[00:29:29]>> That is cute to me.

[00:29:31]>> Yes.

[00:29:31]>> That is to me my favorite style of friendship.

[00:29:35]>> I agree. I think that you're I in the way that I observe you like you and I've seen it before too. It's like someone may not even be the best at something, but you will choose to do it with them because you want to bond with them. So, for instance, like if you're producing a movie, you'll choose this person to like make the deck or do the wardrobe or whatever it is. And I'll be like, "That person kind of sucks at that. What the [ __ ] are you doing?" And then I'm like, "Oh, no, no, no. You just want to do something creative with this person because you love them and you yourself know you can probably do it, but like you're just wanting that.

[00:30:13]>> Yeah.

[00:30:14]>> That feeling of we just created something and now we can go celebrate.

[00:30:17]>> Yeah. Making art, doing business to me is like kids playing basketball.

[00:30:21]>> Yeah.

[00:30:22]>> And I'm always just like, yo, I love that person. Let's uh let's write a script together, you know, and >> you know, it's it is my way of bonding.

[00:30:31]I really enjoy and I love the guys here.

[00:30:33]like this. It's the best time.

[00:30:35]>> I think the thing about you I would say >> I fear this is too intimate, but I'm gonna share cuz I think it is really really cool.

[00:30:46]>> Okay.

[00:30:46]>> I think my favorite thing about you that nobody knows besides I think anyone that you've been like really close in partnership with or one of your like really close girls >> is that like when you're on a good one with somebody >> Mhm.

[00:31:01]going to bed with you. The hour of cuddling before falling asleep is the absolute best time with you.

[00:31:10]>> Yeah, >> it's the best. Cuz I think you walk through the world >> with a lot of guilt and a lot of duty.

[00:31:17]And I don't think people realize it. And I don't even talk to you about this.

[00:31:21]>> Yeah.

[00:31:21]>> But I know it. You're really >> have a sense of responsibility, have a sense of duty.

[00:31:28]>> Little little things that shouldn't even make you guilty. make you feel guilty.

[00:31:32]You feel like you need to perform for people. You feel like you owe people a lot of [ __ ] >> And like that cloud weighs over you all day.

[00:31:41]>> I can't wait for the day that cloud just disappears.

[00:31:44]>> Yeah.

[00:31:45]>> But the time of day each day it disappears is right before you fall asleep. And it's like when I scratch your back and we cuddle.

[00:31:56]>> And we're not just cuddling. It's like foot cuddle. The legs are intertwined.

[00:32:00]There's hand. It's like the head is in a spot. Like we're locked in like a race car driver >> in a Ferrari.

[00:32:07]>> Yeah.

[00:32:08]>> You know, like it's like this.

[00:32:10]>> And >> I remember the first time it happened, I was like, "Whoa, this is really special."

[00:32:19]>> Like this this woman like really wants to be in relationship >> in the most physical, intimate, spiritual way. And I love it cuz >> I'm the same. It's just like this painting like >> I do everything like this dude >> honestly. Like I'm up in there.

[00:32:37]>> Horsepower baby.

[00:32:38]>> And I remember your friend at the time >> Mhm.

[00:32:42]>> a onelet name.

[00:32:44]>> Yes.

[00:32:45]>> Was like, "Oh my god, last night you like cuddled me in your sleep so hard.

[00:32:49]Do you remember that?" And I was like immediately jealous cuz I was like, "Does she do this with everyone?"

[00:32:55]And I I asked you because I was like, "Do you really cuddle me because you like love me or do you do that with everybody? Like you just need like a body there." And it was probably the most I think raw and jealous I think I've ever been. And it was so funny cuz it's like usually I'm going to stereotype here. I understand I'm stereotyping understand. It's usually it's like the women I've dated or been with been like, "Do you do this with everybody?" And you're the first one was like, "I really need to know that you did that only with me or with other guys that you were close with." Yeah.

[00:33:31]>> Or other women you were in relationship with cuz you just do that with like anyone who's in the bed with you, I would really [ __ ] upset.

[00:33:39]>> No. No.

[00:33:42]I just love cuddling. Like I think it's I think it's >> like I don't would never do it with everybody for sure factually. My true honest answer is I don't cuddle everybody that way.

[00:33:54]>> I guess she was your best friend at the time.

[00:33:57]>> Yeah, she was my best friend at the time when like we as best friends, you go on trips together, you share a hotel room, you share a bed, you share a room at a a Hampton's house, you share a bed. Like just many instances like that or even you just like crash at your girlfriend's house and you sleep in their bed. It's not weird. just girls cuddle, girls cuddle.

[00:34:14]>> Um, but no, I think for me, and I've always said this, like handholding and cuddling is I think more intimate >> than sex.

[00:34:27]>> And I will say that about people is like people will be like, why did you even try to date Natasha? Like she seems to have such a like hard wall. Or like you can be, as you said, cword.

[00:34:40]The thing that I've always known about people is if you're guarding it that hard >> and if you're putting up the wall that high, >> there's a really nice person behind that thing.

[00:34:50]>> Yeah, for sure.

[00:34:51]>> There's a really really nice person who's just scared of being hurt, but like probably >> Yeah.

[00:34:58]>> wants to be seen.

[00:35:00]>> Yeah. But I don't think even I think sometimes like you and I are both same.

[00:35:05]I think like you're better at it than I am cuz you've had to like you're a public person so I think you've had to be aware of like okay how am I being perceived right now because you don't want to come off a certain way like even if it's just like your resting personality like both of our resting personalities and I know this because when my mom's around my mom is a golden retriever like we're both like black cats we're just like if I'm just home and like resting like I'm not giving you anything Like if I'm just at a restaurant eating or something like I I'm just I'm not like I probably do look like a [ __ ] I probably do look like I have a hard wall up. I don't. But that's just how it would appear to people, I think. And I think that gets confused.

[00:35:49]>> Yeah. What's cool is at home as soon as you're done with all your stuff, we do always hang out.

[00:35:55]>> Oh, yeah.

[00:35:56]>> Like I never feel like you're a black hat in the house. No, I just mean that like my I guess my resting like even if you were to walk into Bow House and like I'm in the middle of doing something like you might think, oh, I don't want to like bother her. Like she looks she looks tense. But I'm like, no, no, like me relaxing looks tense to most people.

[00:36:13]I'm just a serious ass [ __ ] You know what's really funny is so after season one of Wong's World, Spike Jones sat me down and we went through footage and he goes, "Eddie, I need you to work on your listening face."

[00:36:30]>> I was like, "A listening face?" He goes, "Look, look at these clips. When people are talking, your your mind is going.

[00:36:38]>> It's triggering you. You're curious.

[00:36:40]you're thinking about what's next and you're like waiting to say your response, waiting to follow up, waiting to take the conversation in a direction, >> and he's like, I know you're listening because what you're saying after shows comprehension, >> but you're on camera, brother. He's like, you need to show listening. You need to communicate to the audience listening.

[00:37:06]>> This is what they mean by media trained.

[00:37:09]you work on your like active listening body and >> I think it's even more like actors actors like actors communicate silently through film and television >> and so he worked with me on it and I >> started to just like do a listening face >> and it actually really helped me because performing listening ultimately if you if you're not a sociopath becomes actually learning how to listen. M I was going to say it feels may be like it might be meditative like if you're like if you're focusing your attention on listening it's almost like how you meditate right like you focus your attention on listening to yourself.

[00:37:52]>> Yeah.

[00:37:52]>> So if you're focusing on listening to somebody else and I imagine that could be like a a bit of that mental state as well.

[00:37:59]>> And I had acted before but I had never like taken it super serious or like appreciated in in the way like a thespian would. Mhm.

[00:38:07]>> But after really working on that for all of season 2 of Wong's World, paying attention in the edit, I started to be like, "Oh, I see why acting is really cool for people." Or at least what I found cool about it was >> if you aspire to something like being a better listener, >> performing listening, >> you ultimately can get there.

[00:38:32]>> Yeah. the performance of the thing can be the way you learn it.

[00:38:37]>> Totally.

[00:38:38]>> And I thought that was very cool.

[00:38:39]>> It's like fake it till you make it or dress for the job you want.

[00:38:44]>> And then on the other side, I was like now I can also see how certain roles drag people to hell >> because you start to embody the character, start to think that way, start to like, you know, take on that spirit. It's got to be hard to get out of there.

[00:39:04]>> I mean, I feel like if I watch a movie and I like really like I am connected to like the movie that I'm watching, like I walk out of that theater with a new personality. Like I am now the person I am now whatever character I connected to for like 48 hours.

[00:39:17]>> And it gave me tremendous respect for actors and why >> when you work with actors, it can seem like very neurotic and anxious. It's like, yo, they're giving themselves up to this thing. If my job every day was to be somebody else, I don't think I would be >> lose my mind. It's one of the hardest jobs ever.

[00:39:35]>> Yeah. That's why people are always like, "Oh my god, >> what a life. What to complain about?"

[00:39:40]I'm like, "Um, the lack of structural identity and boundaries with anybody ever. The parasocial relationship everybody has to you and the characters that you play that aren't even you and the traits that are projected and associated onto you." Like, >> and then you get criticized for how you did it. Like most actors you meet are like >> they have PTSD and they're carrying a lot of >> Totally. Imagine you're like sitting there like you're not good enough at playing pretend. It's like Jesus Christ.

[00:40:06]Like what the [ __ ] >> It's crazy.

[00:40:08]>> Like you're not good enough at imaginary play.

[00:40:10]>> Yeah.

[00:40:11]>> My [ __ ] perspective. People don't have enough perspective about [ __ ] What actors do is really [ __ ] difficult.

[00:40:18]>> So difficult.

[00:40:19]>> Totally. Should we leave it there?

[00:40:21]>> I feel like that is a good place to end.

[00:40:22]Wonderful episode.

[00:40:23]>> Beautiful.

[00:40:24]>> Wonderful. Fantastic. Love you. Love you. And shout out to our nanny. I love her. She's not getting fired. She's the [ __ ] >> She would never be fired. She's the best.