The Hidden World Of Finch Keepers

Añadido: 2026-05-11

[00:00:00]I love the selection of birds we've got going on in here, mate. That's Wow.

[00:00:05]>> Half a dozen young ones in there. Pass and finches. They're really hardy.

[00:00:09]>> What volume of baby chicks do you reckon you're going to get out of this?

[00:00:13]>> That's every mutation and color you can have.

[00:00:15]>> All right, guys. Welcome back to the bird lounge. Today we're on another episode of Behind the Scene Bird Rooms.

[00:00:20]I'm meeting up with a guy called Aaron.

[00:00:22]Now, if you remember call from this episode, Aaron's the reason that he got into birds in the first place. Now, according to call, he's got an absolutely fantastic setup. So, I'm about five minutes away from it now.

[00:00:32]I'll catch you when we get there. Let's get into it. All right. So, we've made it. I'm here with Aaron and this is the man himself and I believe Aaron, you're the guy that got call into the bird off session.

[00:00:40]>> Yeah. Went the car for a few years. He came and saw my setup, loved it, and went to buy his own. He's done his own thing now with Stars and doing really well. Actually, >> it is. And we like say we've just been to say absolutely fantastic now. I've only had a quick glance around and I can't wait for you to show us what you've got going on here. Before we get going, let the people know how long have you actually been into the bird game for?

[00:00:58]>> I've had birds for probably 10 years.

[00:00:59]Started for working for a rescue years and years ago with big macars and Amazon and then over time down and then got into finches a couple of years ago.

[00:01:07]Built this and I love it. I think it's great.

[00:01:09]>> And is this what you're doing just for a hobby? You know, >> just a hobby? No, it's not for money.

[00:01:12]This is just a pure hobby. Something to do on a weekend. Yeah, I think it's great.

[00:01:15]>> Best thing. Right. So, what I'm going to do now, we're just going to start off in here. We'll just explain what's going on. Then we'll work our way and have a look inside the area itself. Thought it's going to be a fantastic day, guys.

[00:01:24]Buckle down. Let's get into it.

[00:01:26]>> I I like the finches. You leave them to it and the >> the sound they're all right. Yeah, >> they're perfect like beginner birdies. I >> think rabbit bottom as well.

[00:01:35]>> Fantastic.

[00:01:36]>> Best cleanup crew.

[00:01:37]>> Yeah, >> he sorts everything out on four and it's he's a rescue one. Like he's knackered, but >> yeah, I've got a rabbit. I've not put it in yet, but I'm going.

[00:01:45]>> He's sound.

[00:01:46]>> I'm going to And it's You boys have seen put he in.

[00:01:49]>> Yeah. And honestly, the last five, four or five I've been to, no one's put a in the bottom. But I like the idea.

[00:01:55]>> Well, al nest mean al nest up there.

[00:01:57]They're all made out of it.

[00:01:58]>> This is what I mean.

[00:01:59]>> When you buy that coconut fiber and that it ain't cheap. You can get I get bales of a from farm around corner. Three quid for half a ton and you throw it in and you know everything's all nest and made out of straw and hay and bits of grass you don't want. So >> So they only live in there. That's the only indoor part is it?

[00:02:13]>> Yeah. Just in there and they're out there.

[00:02:15]>> And is it just one big avery that we look at in a second? That's cool. And how many birds do you know? How many birds you've got or have you?

[00:02:22]>> There's roughly a hundred. I started with 10 pairs of zebies.

[00:02:27]>> Yeah.

[00:02:27]>> They're all ringed greens.

[00:02:29]>> Yeah.

[00:02:29]>> So then every few months I just go through take everything out that's not ringed >> and that's how you work out how many youngans. You know when you when you go in the big flight like you can see young there.

[00:02:39]>> There's loads of young ons on floor that just fledged out. There must be >> 30 40 in boxes ready to come out.

[00:02:46]>> Fun looking in them.

[00:02:47]>> Yeah. the next couple of days or so, they'll all be out waiting to go.

[00:02:50]>> Love that zebra finch there. Somewhere about it.

[00:02:51]>> He's a nice one. There's there's two or three in here that aren't dissimilar from him.

[00:02:56]>> Yeah.

[00:02:57]>> Um I'm hoping that I'm The problem is there's that many nest boxes in there.

[00:03:00]Don't know who's so just wait for some to pop out and you think, right, I roughly know who you belong to.

[00:03:05]>> Yeah, I preer doing it that way. I'm not selective breed. I've only selective breeding him cuz he is >> a bit special. But rest of them are just >> they get on with get on with kind of thing.

[00:03:14]>> Definitely. There's some nice um >> And are these two in quarantine from New York?

[00:03:18]>> Yeah, they just look a bit don't look very well, do they?

[00:03:21]>> They're big as well, aren't they?

[00:03:22]>> Big silver.

[00:03:23]>> Yeah, >> you watch the while get out now. I've said that.

[00:03:28]>> All right, so we are inside the Avery and well, a banking little Avery. The birds look really, really happy and just look how much they've got going on for them. One thing I am noticing on both these Averies, I like the idea of the straw on the floor. I don't know why more aren't doing it and I'm definitely going to be copying.

[00:03:47]>> So tell me, how often are you changing this out?

[00:03:49]>> This gets changed probably once every two weeks, but after two weeks most of it's gone. All the nesting boxes are all made from straw. So yeah, a lot of it gets used naturally really. A little bangy there interrupting them.

[00:04:05]>> Yeah, this is a nice little flock. This is something similar to what I've got in my head. Now I'm seeing this, I'm getting more excited about building my finish village >> natural using using straw. There's no clean up for it. It's it's the easiest way and we all use it to content really.

[00:04:20]>> And just bang your old Christmas trees every year. Change your Christmas tree.

[00:04:23]That's a brilliant idea.

[00:04:27]>> I love the selection of birds we've got going on in here, mate.

[00:04:30]>> Dorothics are lovely. They are >> too in there. They're really nice.

[00:04:33]>> They are beautiful. And were you just saying a minute ago uh that you're not really bothering with heat, so you don't have any heat for these?

[00:04:40]>> No, there's no heat in any of these. I rule of thumb is if you get them in the summer when it's warm and let them slowly degrade down to cold weather, touch wood, I've never lost one from the cold. So, you should be fine all being well.

[00:04:52]>> And you're quite high up here where we are.

[00:04:54]>> It's a lot colder here. Yeah. Yeah. But on the You won't be able to see it, but there's a big plastic piece of plastic on the end that stops the wind coming through.

[00:05:01]>> Right.

[00:05:02]>> Set some of the breeze off.

[00:05:03]>> Yeah. So he's the plastic that part off there which obviously And do do you leave this front this side?

[00:05:08]>> Yeah. All this is open. All that's open for better brea touch wood. I've never had a problem. So >> this is it. And I actually I think I've done the same a couple years ago when I was had my first Avery and I kept them open all year >> and I found them healthier birds.

[00:05:21]>> Yeah, they're more harder. They don't become hard.

[00:05:24]>> Yeah, >> definitely. And how long has this Avery been up for?

[00:05:27]>> This has been up for about 18 months now. Um, the only thing I've had to change when I built it out of the 2B ones, when I put the metal sheet roof in, it was too much. So, I had to reinforce it with the 2B3s. But, apart from that, it's as it has been from day one. Really, >> it looks perfect. I see you got some really, really nice selection of finches. And I love my finches.

[00:05:47]So, so how many birds did you say you have in here? Look at that one there.

[00:05:50]Sorry, just before I lose it. That's >> Wow. There's a roughly a hundred zebies, but because they all colony breeds, >> you just don't know.

[00:06:00]>> I've got a rough idea to which ones at parents and which one's at young and >> yeah, >> I'll leave them to it.

[00:06:05]>> So, obviously as so most all the parents, have they all got their rings on?

[00:06:09]>> Yeah. So, everything with the green ring is the original parents. Everything without. So, the pied ones there, they're the young from this year.

[00:06:16]>> Lovely. Lovely set them. So, I think there's three all together.

[00:06:19]>> But yeah, they're all this year's this year's young.

[00:06:21]>> Beautiful.

[00:06:23]Yeah, they're brilliant sort of bird as well, aren't they? Zebra, >> I did it easy.

[00:06:28]>> Yeah.

[00:06:30]>> And they all get on. That's the main thing.

[00:06:32]>> This is it. And And do do you find they all tend to go indoors? Do a lot just just >> No. Most most on the outside. Most in the most of the boxes are full of youngans and eggs, but there's a few spare where they do like to sleep. Pass and finches. They're really hardy.

[00:06:46]>> They'll be out in cold and snow and rain. They're not bothered.

[00:06:49]>> Yeah.

[00:06:50]>> Yeah. Beautiful.

[00:06:51]>> One of our birds going. They are really pretty as well.

[00:06:54]>> They are.

[00:06:55]>> Where else we got? So, it's just zebras for days.

[00:06:58]>> Yeah.

[00:07:00]>> This is definitely the busiest zebra Avery I've had on the channel yet, mate.

[00:07:03]So, you you've won that one.

[00:07:06]>> And they're so happy.

[00:07:08]>> Yeah. The live on seed, fruit and veg.

[00:07:11]>> Yeah.

[00:07:11]>> Uh millet. They get a lot of live stuff as well. So, they do live meal worms and live crickets, tiny ones, flightless fruit flies. Right. They get a lot of natural >> natural behavior stuff with them.

[00:07:22]>> And how often are you were feeding them fruits and veg? Is it every day or >> about three times a week? Every couple of days, >> right? Three times a week. Yeah. And is there anything special that you give them that you see a lot of breeders don't give them? It's a >> not a lot of them don't do the live food. I throw a a decent ample flightless fruit flies in. So, they've got to chase them down. It's that natural.

[00:07:45]Yeah.

[00:07:45]>> And do they where do you get the fruit flies from?

[00:07:47]>> Bet shops. Get in little get little cups. The flightless ones. They're tiny and they just you throw them in, they chase them around. Yeah, >> I've not tried that. They don't just fly out. They won't escape.

[00:07:56]>> No, they real cuz they're cuz they're only little and cuz like I said, they are flightless. They're just kind of off about, but it's just enough chance for them to get obviously some will get out, but it's enough chance for these to get them. Yeah, it's that it's that natural instinct to get them. I don't feed them chemical. All the med three stuff I don't do. I just leave them to it and they get a natural selection. And I think that's better than >> Yeah, it is. chemical stuff to them really.

[00:08:18]>> Do you ever feed them meal worms or anything like that?

[00:08:20]>> Yeah, they get a lot about once a week they all get a decent meal worms the fruit flies and the little two day old crickets the tiny ones. Yeah.

[00:08:28]>> Just throw everything in inside and outside and let them all go and then you see them all running around trying to get them all.

[00:08:33]>> And if you had any advice for say someone obviously my channel as you'll know a lot of people have start just started off in the bird trade.

[00:08:40]>> Yeah.

[00:08:40]>> And only wanting to get into the finches. Have you got any bit of advice you could give to a brand new starter?

[00:08:45]Right. Honestly, I don't think I've ever seen a Forum offer a discount code this code ever before. They've given bird lounge viewers 25% off the whole Aven range for this month. If you keep Avery Birds properly, you'll know we go through quite a lot of this stuff. So, 25% off is a massive saving because once you start getting into vitamins, breeding products, supplements, might treatments, this stuff starts to disappear fast, especially when you've got many birds to look after. And the reason I'm mentioning this properly is because there's so many companies do these fake discounts nowadays. But 25% off from A4 is solid. And that's why I thought I'd let you lot know properly before the code disappears. It's bird lounge 25 at checkout. Uh if you're going for zebies, um they all breed very easily to be fair. I won't spend your money on nicer colors. You'll get them eventually. I never did. Started with your very cheap colors. Yeah.

[00:09:33]>> And uh as you can see, there's some really nice ones in here now that all bred from basic colors. So you will get there eventually. Yeah, >> they are hardy. They don't bother with the cold and the rain >> and yeah, they're easy to look after. No worry really.

[00:09:45]>> And would you say what would you say is the easiest finch to start off with? Not might if you don't say the zebra finch or the Bengales because obviously everyone goes to them for the easiest cuz it's common sense.

[00:09:55]>> Yeah. What would you say your next finch out would be?

[00:09:58]>> Probably the hex and parson finches.

[00:10:00]>> Parson finches there. They're incredibly hardy.

[00:10:03]>> Yes, they are.

[00:10:03]>> They will withstand minus degrees and they'll still be outside. And what's the temperament like on these?

[00:10:09]>> They're all right. They're quite friendly with other stuff. I've never had anything in with them that's been bigger than they are.

[00:10:16]>> Right.

[00:10:16]>> They are bigger compared to the zebies and they get along fine with them. So touchwood will be fine for this year.

[00:10:21]>> Yeah.

[00:10:21]>> Same as the heck finches. They get on well as well.

[00:10:23]>> And where's the heckin? Have we got any of these?

[00:10:25]>> There's only two parsons in here.

[00:10:27]There's hex in garage.

[00:10:28]>> And they're really cool. Oh, look at that one. Hello. We like these ones and they're all different.

[00:10:33]>> That's a nice one. There's a few uh >> really nice.

[00:10:37]>> Yeah. Trouble orange black breast or something.

[00:10:40]>> Something about like little Pokemons.

[00:10:43]You want to collect all the colors.

[00:10:44]>> Oh, there is I've got a poster in it garage and there's thousands of variations and mutations. It's Yeah, it's interesting if you get into it. It is interesting.

[00:10:53]>> Yeah, they are. And there's a finch that we don't see often on the channel.

[00:10:56]Where's it gone now? I just seen it.

[00:11:00]>> Where is it? The little red thing. I think it were red there in that top corner.

[00:11:07]>> St. Helena wax bill.

[00:11:08]>> There we go.

[00:11:09]>> Yeah. Tiny little thing.

[00:11:11]>> That Yeah, that's absolutely stunning.

[00:11:14]Look at that. And what do they eat the same food as all the fig?

[00:11:18]>> Yeah, they all get they all get a decent finch mix and high quality finch mix seed as long as fruit and veg and they all they all eat the same thing really.

[00:11:25]Even padletes do.

[00:11:26]>> Well, quite happy. I'll be honest with you, since I started doing these behind the scene bird rooms, and I I reckon a few people will agree with me. I'm quite shocked how many lads are actually keeping these more fancy foreign finches out in >> open British weather.

[00:11:40]>> And that is a fant it's good knowing you've had success with that.

[00:11:44]>> Yeah. Really well.

[00:11:45]>> It's good because it's going to open up people the opportunity cuz I can't have heat. I know lads can't.

[00:11:50]>> No, I haven't got I've got no heat in here and touchwood. I've never lost one from the cold. They are incred incredibly hardy birds.

[00:11:57]>> And if you look guys, he's only got, say, for example, that bit's boarded off that little bit as well. They can go in there to get warm, >> but he said in winters they're not all pounded in there, are they?

[00:12:07]>> No, they'll be outside.

[00:12:08]>> So, it goes to show like say for example, heat was such a necessity in the winter months that place will be full to capacity. Like he says, they're still all out here.

[00:12:17]>> Yeah, we're still outside enjoying themselves.

[00:12:20]>> Mate, this an absolutely fantastic behind the scene bird room. Thank you for having us up. I really do appreciate it. So, we'll carry on if there's uh I think we've covered in here, haven't we?

[00:12:30]Yeah. Do you ever put any like the live pads, the bamboos, do you swap these around and just keep >> No, I just leave them in because they do get the sunlight and the occasional rain sideways, they they will keep growing.

[00:12:40]Um they do chew them to pieces, but because bamboos run at fastest growing plants you can get, it carries on. You know what I mean? It really does.

[00:12:48]They're nearly They're nearly 2 years old.

[00:12:51]>> Yeah. And I've just got to take tops off it because they do grow incredibly quick.

[00:12:54]>> Yeah. And they got some >> they get chewed to bits and but a lot of the uh finch nests are made from >> uh the bamboo. Yeah.

[00:13:03]>> Yeah. Cuz they'll just pick it, won't they?

[00:13:05]>> Yeah.

[00:13:06]>> No, really really like this Avery. This is giving me inspiration for my next Avery. So, thank you for that one, Aaron.

[00:13:12]>> Um do you want to carry on? I believe you got something going on.

[00:13:15]>> Yeah, there's more garage as well. Yeah, I'll show you those as well.

[00:13:18]>> Happy days. Let's go and have a show.

[00:13:20]So, we're just talking about his nest boxes and reckoning the plastic ones are the ones.

[00:13:24]>> These are the plastic ones. These are great. I mean, there's half a dozen young ones in there.

[00:13:29]>> Most of the plastic ones are. And the good thing with the plastic ones is end of season, you can take them out and jet wash them.

[00:13:35]>> That is. Yeah. And the wooden you are just throwing away.

[00:13:37]>> The wooden ones you do end up bending off after a couple of seasons, but the plastic ones are all these ones here, they're all full of youngans at the moment.

[00:13:44]>> Have we Have we got any? Let's Should we have a quick look at some youngans while we're here?

[00:13:50]They won't mind.

[00:13:51]>> No, they're not they're not bothered about you looking and get a shot. Look at that. Beautiful.

[00:13:58]Brand new life.

[00:14:00]>> And look at the work they put in these finches. It fascinates me.

[00:14:04]>> You can watch you can watch them for hours on them actually making.

[00:14:07]>> And how often do you put your chair in here and have a couple of bevies? Oh, there we go.

[00:14:12]>> Set in there.

[00:14:12]>> Oh yeah. Look at them. That one there is ready for new life. Looks like it's going to come out a dark one. that or do do most of the baby zbies look like that?

[00:14:20]>> I think they all kind of look the same and then I just come out some mornings and there'll be four or five on four that are fledged.

[00:14:26]>> Yeah.

[00:14:27]>> And you leave them to it. The parents, that's one mistake I have made. I once pulled a load out that were on the floor, the youngans, put them into a different box and lost a couple cuz the parents do still feed them >> after they've fledged. The parents will look after them for another week or so.

[00:14:42]>> So if you do get some, leave them to it.

[00:14:44]>> Just leave them. Yeah, of course. until you can see them flying about.

[00:14:47]>> And if you just say for example, we see little babies ever on the floor. What do you know? Do you put it back in any box or >> No, I just leave it. No, I leave it to it. Most mornings when I come out, all outlands are huddled together and they're fine. Like I said, they are very good with coals and up.

[00:15:01]>> Yeah, he'll be fine. The parents will go down and feed them when they're on floor. You can hear them asking for food. So, yeah, they're great. They're great parents. The easiest bird you can get really.

[00:15:10]>> And what do you reckon your um what volume of baby chicks do you reckon you're going to get out of this? Do you know a count? Have you got last year's count? Did you just do one?

[00:15:17]>> I think last year it averaged out about 30 a month. About 300 400 from 10 15 pairs.

[00:15:24]>> Not bad.

[00:15:25]>> Yeah. You think five five or six a box.

[00:15:28]I have had some clutches up to 101 and they've all made it and they've all survived.

[00:15:32]>> Right.

[00:15:32]>> Top tip with zebies as well. If you get a pair of Bengales or two pair of Bengales, they will actually go in the nest box with youngans and look after them. the Bengales, you watch them, they go around and they'll they'll look after everything. So, they're brilliant for that. Yeah, >> they're actually bred for that, aren't they?

[00:15:46]>> Yeah, they're great great community birds to have.

[00:15:49]>> So, guys, I hope you've got some inspiration in regards to you don't need the heat. You can have the space size.

[00:15:56]How big is this size?

[00:15:57]>> This is This is 15 by 9 foot.

[00:16:00]>> 15 by 9 ft. That is Oh, that's the size of this place. I'd like to say you could put more beds in here if you want.

[00:16:08]>> Oh, easily. Yeah. Like you say, you you know the zebies will live quite happily.

[00:16:12]Can you another you can have another 100 200 in here and they are quite happy.

[00:16:15]>> Yeah, definitely. M this is absolutely fantastic setup. Definitely a different one. They're fantastic.

[00:16:22]>> Yeah, you fill them up once a week and you leave them.

[00:16:24]>> And where do you get these from?

[00:16:25]>> They were from the auction. I go to North Dield Bird auction. They're from there. But they are brill.

[00:16:30]>> Yeah, they are. And does that collect all the hus?

[00:16:32]>> Yeah, so all that that does come off that slides away. All you have some bits you don't need, you can throw away or put them in with.

[00:16:39]>> It looks like there's quite a lot of good good waste in there, though. Yeah, that's the problem in it. But you need one of them um the sifters. What's >> them electric ones? Yeah, some new work.

[00:16:48]Yeah.

[00:16:48]>> Yeah. 100 quid, weren't they?

[00:16:49]>> Oh, they were.

[00:16:50]>> Yeah. So, what's this you got here for this car?

[00:16:52]>> Uh 370Z GT uh track edition one.

[00:16:56]>> And I've just made these flight cages just for a bit of winter.

[00:17:00]>> It's brilliant. Great. It's fun building this stuff, is it? No, it's Well, but then my AV fabs. I had one of their cages years ago and it cost a fortune.

[00:17:09]You think you can mech them for?

[00:17:10]>> Yeah. I mean, they're not half as good as a fab ones, but >> they do the job.

[00:17:14]>> That does the job.

[00:17:16]>> Yeah. So, there's two pet two sets of starfinch and one young in there. And that's big as a gold variation star.

[00:17:23]>> Yeah.

[00:17:24]>> Bright yellow.

[00:17:25]>> All right, guys. This is going to definitely give you loads of inspiration. Loads of inspiration. I'm sure Aaron will send us it a video when it's all complete.

[00:17:34]And roughly, I don't know if you've been keeping track because I'm a nightmare for not keeping track.

[00:17:39]>> How much would you say that unit there cost you?

[00:17:42]>> About 50 quid to make out of wood.

[00:17:44]They're not they're not expensive. The expensive part is the mesh.

[00:17:47]>> Yeah.

[00:17:47]>> But I got it from Newark. It were quite cheap at Newark on the offro. So probably about 50 quid altogether, which if you bought one made up for you cost hundreds. They are they are expensive.

[00:17:58]>> It's done its job. It's done its job there. Happy. Are you going to put heat into this building?

[00:18:02]>> No, I'm going to leave them as well.

[00:18:03]Yeah, I'm going to leave them as well.

[00:18:04]Yeah.

[00:18:05]>> And have you got what have you got down here?

[00:18:06]>> So that's a pair of hex in there.

[00:18:08]>> There they are.

[00:18:11]>> Yeah, cuz look at the flight size you've done for.

[00:18:14]>> It's 83 before 83 before. Yeah, it's a good size.

[00:18:19]>> That's the problem. They'll just be up there chilling on that. If anybody ever buys one off me, I don't know how I'm going to get it out. I ain't wor that far ahead yet.

[00:18:29]Yeah. So like Yeah. You just got to like that's just things when you're building it.

[00:18:33]>> Yeah. That's the thing. It's trial and error. It's whatever works for you. This is two big cages. That's going to be four mediumsiz cages for something different.

[00:18:42]>> What you're thinking in there.

[00:18:44]>> I don't know. I might I had kakarikis for years. So I might put a nice pair in one of them. Yeah.

[00:18:48]>> See what see what comes up really.

[00:18:51]>> But yeah, they're not expensive to make and you can make them to >> Yeah.

[00:18:54]>> dimensions and spec you want really.

[00:18:56]>> Yeah. So you're going to you know you're going to have one here next.

[00:18:58]>> Yeah. There's going to be some I don't know what yet but yeah have something the bug.

[00:19:03]>> Yeah. You start we start with one and then you end up Yeah.

[00:19:06]>> Yeah. Call he's managed to get his little bit of space and I say to him I can tell you now >> he'll get up to >> he started with that one on left and I said to him you could do another one for youngans cuz stars they take about eight months to color through.

[00:19:20]>> Yeah.

[00:19:20]>> So you can't really tell what they are for a long time. So you could do with a flight for youngans. So he built up that other flight on other side of his yard and >> Oh, I bet he's misses it. Best pleas.

[00:19:29]>> She's done he's done a good job. He has.

[00:19:31]He's done a good job with them.

[00:19:32]>> Yeah, he has. We're really impressed with it. Were good to see it from someone else's perspective, you know, like a a guy starting off.

[00:19:39]>> They most glad to speak to like you.

[00:19:41]He's been in it for ages.

[00:19:43]>> Brand new to it. Yeah.

[00:19:44]>> Yeah. He is. And it good to hear. And I tell you what, he knows his stuff. It's like he's been >> Oh, yeah. He's done his research. He knows Yeah.

[00:19:50]>> had a few odd things and then he's he's stuck with stars and he likes the stars, so he's he's keeping them. He's done really well. Yeah.

[00:19:56]>> Yeah. I bet I bet you've been like a mentor to him.

[00:19:58]>> Yeah. I've helped him out as much as I can with stuff and I've told him how to build stuff and I've done stuff, but it's it you do it to your own.

[00:20:04]>> This is it. Carl's looks very natural.

[00:20:07]>> Yeah.

[00:20:08]>> In his flight. It's got a lot of real plants, a lot of fake stuff, but it looks it looks really nice. As mine's slightly more basic, but does the same kind of job. Best thing to ever get is them cheat sheets, as I call them.

[00:20:19]That's your zebra fininch. That's every mutation and color you can have. So if you ever get zebies and they throw a weird color, >> yeah, >> they're brilliant them.

[00:20:28]>> They're from Goldie and Finch from Greece. They're a brilliant company.

[00:20:30]They do every single bird you can think of.

[00:20:33]>> It's been a fantastic day. Thanks for having us around, mate. Really appreciate it. Just before we go, let's just have a quick look at this. So you got nothing in here right now.

[00:20:40]>> No, this is me spare flight for now. Um quite decided what to do with it. It's about 61 12 foot. Um it's all came up.

[00:20:48]It's all got LED lighting that's all on timers. stage electricity through at night >> with a rabbit in there. Um rabbits, this one's a more natural one. There's got a lot more bamboo and bits in here.

[00:20:58]>> Yeah.

[00:20:58]>> Um >> can we open Let's open the door and have a look in.

[00:21:02]>> If you do get into your staff ines, they prefer natural natural stuff.

[00:21:08]Um so it's it's a bit of a more natural >> natural one for some nice wax bills or something, but I ain't quite decided what.

[00:21:15]>> You'll have something in no time.

[00:21:17]>> Yeah. What to get in there yet?

[00:21:18]>> That's it. You were just mentioning then about the diamond doves. You have a I mentioned like put some diamond doves in there. You've had them, haven't you?

[00:21:25]>> Yeah, I had a pair a few months ago and they were the noisiest things I've ever had. So, they didn't last very long.

[00:21:29]They went after a couple of moments. But lovely things. Really nice. Just really noisy.

[00:21:34]>> Yeah.

[00:21:34]>> Yeah. For small for small birds, big voices.

[00:21:36]>> I've not really noticed it myself, but like I say, I don't have them outside my bedroom window. So, >> yeah, they are noisy.

[00:21:42]>> Yeah. It's a really cool setup that you've got here. Uh tell you know what you're doing, don't you? You can >> to a point. It's every day is a learning day. That's the thing. I've had people come and tell me to do things different and >> some of it I've listened to and some of it I haven't. But for me, there's no safety porch on this, but I've never lost a bird from it. So, >> exactly. Everyone know >> should be all right. Yeah.

[00:22:03]>> But like you say, if you've never lost a bird from it, you saved porch. No, it's >> Do you really need it? Like you could always pull. I'm sure if you lost a bird, you'd bang one up.

[00:22:10]>> Yeah, I could I could put one up today, but I've never lost one. The zebies are quite scat for use of a better word. So, a lot of them do just fly off when you walk towards them.

[00:22:18]>> And they're not going to Well, there's no point of leaving in here.

[00:22:21]>> No. They're fed water. They're quite happy.

[00:22:23]>> That's it. And so, when when you said you take everything out once once a year, you said, did you?

[00:22:28]>> Yeah, twice. Normally twice a year.

[00:22:29]>> Normally twice a year. So, once you take everything out, what what do you actually do once you've got everything out? Do you have a procedure that you go through?

[00:22:35]>> Not particular. We get everything out.

[00:22:37]Everything with the green ring um so far has been really good at breeding. So, they go straight back in because they're doing really well. And then the 50 60 young ons I do manage to get >> um sip through them keep a few nice ones for myself and give other ones to other breeders or sell them mono they come out of a duff bear that they were nothing special just a black cheek and a normal and they've come out like that and you think >> they are nice >> really smart but problem is >> I' I'd sell them if someone off a bit rate money I'd sell them but I don't know what the right money is >> that's the problem when I go to auctions I sell them at five a piece for normal ones >> you're saying 20 each is not enough is I I don't I don't know. And that that's the issue when I And that's why I want to go to Newark, but I don't think that helped cuz seeing the blacks at 400 quid a piece.

[00:23:21]>> Yeah. It makes you think how much are worth, >> you know? Are they worth more? Are they worth I I just don't know. That's that's the that's the issue I've got. You know what I mean? I'll just I'll just keep them. But putting money on stuff >> cuz you want to see what they spit out as well.

[00:23:34]>> That that's the thing. Yeah. If I can uh >> if you can get one of them with say for example that gray one at the bottom >> at the back. Yeah.

[00:23:39]>> That'll be nice.

[00:23:40]>> Yeah. I mean like couple of pides on table there but less pi >> put me something now that's that's the thing it's getting into selective breeding then which >> I'm not too fussed at to a point because they get on all right in here you know what I mean >> so much easier >> just leave them to it >> so much easier >> yeah leave them to it and some nice oranges in there and this one at the side of your head there with five young ones in this one that's an orange >> uh male >> I don't know what female it is But I said that's the interesting bit when they come out.

[00:24:13]>> Yeah.

[00:24:13]>> Could be anything, couldn't they?

[00:24:14]Really?

[00:24:14]>> It looks absolutely fantastic in there.

[00:24:16]And I 100% going to get more into my zebies. So >> great. Yeah, they're great.

[00:24:21]>> And I'll tell you what, when you do have any of these fancy pairs coming up.

[00:24:24]>> Yeah.

[00:24:25]>> Put aside for me. They are. You know, I'll keep them aside for you.

[00:24:28]>> I want some of these in my flock.

[00:24:30]>> The five. Look at that.

[00:24:32]>> Yeah.

[00:24:32]>> Beautiful.

[00:24:33]>> How lovely them, too.

[00:24:34]>> Oh, I could stand here all day golfing at these birds. I really could. All right, then. So, that's going to be a wrap for today's episode of Behind the Scene Bear Rooms. Thank you, Aaron. So, so much worries. A pleasure. Thank you.

[00:24:44]>> Helicopter coming. Hey, what's that? Is there a Navy base here?

[00:24:47]>> N just get a few coming over. God knows why.

[00:24:49]>> They might be getting ready for that alien invasion.

[00:24:50]>> Hope so.

[00:24:51]>> So, really do appreciate you, mate. And you can see exactly where now.

[00:24:57]If I your mate never seen this, I would definitely be considering a little bit.

[00:25:01]>> Yeah. If you get the chance to do it, go for it.

[00:25:03]>> 100%. If you had any advice for anyone starting out, have you got any words of advice that you could?

[00:25:07]>> Um, well, start start on your cheaper ones. Don't go fancy. The only thing I will say is make it as big as you can physically get it. If you start small, within a month, you want to go bigger and bigger. If you've got the space, start big. If you're going to get into it, start big. Yeah, definitely. Save your >> forune. So, size does matter. And again, like like we've been learning, a lot of people saying, get the size and make sure you start with good quality stocks.

[00:25:29]Always a winner is you can't go wrong.

[00:25:31]Apart from that, thank you for watching, Aaron. Been a pleasure, mate. Cheers.