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What Does Jax Know? | Object Theory | Let's Build A Theory!Added:
PACK PACK, can you hear me?
Pack, how we doing?
I gotta figure this out. pack.
You got to give me a You got to give me a give me a second to figure something out. It's gonna It's going to go in and out, in and out, in and out. I have to For some reason, my chat isn't working and I want it to work. See, it's supposed to Oh, everything's backwards.
Supposed to be over there.
Supposed to be over there.
Um Oh, you're going to go away for like two seconds. I'm going to come back.
Okay. I'm going to come back. Nobody freak out. Pack pack. Nobody freak out.
Okay.
Did anyone freak out? Did I I left for two? I told pack. I told you I was leaving for two seconds. Can I not leave you for two seconds?
It was literally two seconds. Oh, wait.
Where's my water bottle? Pack.
How we doing?
Um, here's the thing. We're always going to have uh we're going to have issues when we're doing something new.
When we're doing something new, you're going to have you're going to have a learning curve. Okay, Pack. That's what you're learning today. We're going to learn we're going to learn that a lot today. Okay, this isn't the only time that things are going to get crazy because we're going to build a theory together and we've never done this live, which means it's not going to go like we want it to go. You know what I'm saying?
And that's the lesson. That's the first lesson of today, pack. The first lesson is um that you got to do something even if it's imperfect. You got to just start.
Okay? You got to just start. It's not going to be perfect. You still got to try it. You know what I'm saying?
You know what I'm saying? Pack.
Um let's see. Okay. Hold on. I'm gonna mess around with some stuff for a little bit. Um, let's see. Pack, I might have to leave you to find my water bottle or I'm going to die. I might actually die.
Okay, this is going to go here. Look at that. Back.
We're going to do this for now. Okay, this is just going to be how it goes.
And there's supposed to be other stuff.
There's supposed to be fancy things.
It's not working right now.
I had like alerts and stuff set up. I don't know why it's not working. Got like stream elements. It's not working.
So, I guess for now it was kind of working earlier when it wasn't working.
You know what I'm saying?
The meme god Wanny Star. Sorry for the beef. There's no beef, brother. There's no beef.
I know you're saying stuff. People think I get mad. I don't get mad.
Why would I get mad?
There's no reason to get mad.
Um, you're the guy that says I'm on drugs all the time. What if I like drugs?
Ever think about that?
Um, let's see.
Well, pack I don't know. I don't know how to do the They're supposed to be nice cute little alerts and uh there's no cute little alerts right now, Pat. I'm sorry.
So sorry. So, we'll have to do that next time because uh because we are supposed to start this time. So, I'll figure that out for next time. Wait, is it even is that thing even working? No, the chat is not even working. Huh?
Nothing's working. Pack.
Uh, let's see. Okay, let's see if I can refresh this and make it work at least.
It kind of works.
Is it working?
All right, Pack.
I'm going to go find my water. I'm gonna put you on a little on a little pause screen. Okay, nobody freak out. Nobody freak out. Okay, everybody's gonna be fine. Everybody's gonna be okay. Okay, everybody have a nice relaxing stream. It's like 30 minutes later. Um, okay. I'll be right back. There's going to be a timer, but I'll come back before the timer ends.
Okay, back.
Pack.
Pack.
He's never coming back.
Pack. Are we back?
Are we back? Pack.
I got a new shirt.
I know the voices aren't real, but man, do they come up with some great ideas.
You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying, Pac? You know what I'm saying, Pack?
All right.
Who's ready? Who's ready to do some theorizing?
Theorizing. We're still going to have some hiccups. Pack. Okay. Still going to have some pick hiccups, but we are we are going to go. You're going to do a thing. Still got to get this all set up over here.
You were born. Someone is ready. And someone was born. Welcome to the earth.
Welcome to the earth. Uh, who was born?
Funkhead. Funkhead. Welcome to the earth. You are um Bubbles's boy. You are the boy.
Bubble is your father.
What am I planning on doing after the Amazing Digital Circus ends? You want to know the truth? The Amazing Digital Circus. Finally, finally, finally, I'll be able to talk about this stuff and people will believe me. Trust me. You guys think I'm crazy. You guys think I'm crazy. I know you think I'm crazy.
I don't think I'm crazy. I think I'm very sane, actually.
And I think there's a lot of work to do when the show is over.
There's going to be a lot of work to do and a lot of things to explore there.
You will understand just how insane insanely deep this show is. It truly truly is insanely deep. And I hope to instill a little bit of of that on you today pack as we build this together because I know that it's going to seem I know it seems crazy. I know a lot of things seem crazy, but if I can do my job right, you're going to start to see how the digital circus like I see it, which is crazy.
Which is crazy.
All right.
Wait, I got to find a I gotta find a picture of scratch because we're going to start from scratch.
Isn't that funny? That's so funny.
We're going to build this theory from scratch. All right, let me switch to uh let me switch to this. Let's see if this one works. Oh, wait, wait. The chat's not going to work here on this one. So, I got to All right, I'm going to move this again, which is probably going to freeze the chat again. We're going to fix this over time pack. Okay, we're going to fix this over time. Oh, it didn't freeze it this time. Or did it?
All right, current topic, Amazing Digital Circus.
Let's Let's shift this around a little bit. How's the How's the sound balance going on? Is is everything good? You can kind of hear the Whoa. Oh no. Okay, don't mind me. I'm just going crazy.
Are we gonna do beef part thing or what?
Moody. Oh my Moody. No. No. Moody, there's no beef. Moody, you're the one who brings the beef into the chat. You know, there's no beef in the pack.
There's no beef in the pack. Um, I got a new camera pack. I got a new camera.
Before I was using I I've I've switched a few times actually. I was using um let's see I was using a webcam and then I was like you know what I should get a camera and then I got a new phone that I was using as a camera and the last time I was streaming I was using that phone but it just like froze and so then I finally decided to just get a real camera. How's the quality? Am I looking Am I Am I looking good in HD pack?
Can I Can I Can I get a You know what I'm saying?
We're vibing, Pack. We're vibing. All right. Who's ready? Who's ready? Let's uh let's see what Let's see what what should he call this. It's not going to start out with Jax's scratch to be honest. The the main thing we have to establish is that Jax knows too much. Jax knows too much. Jax knows like or let's let's let's start here. How much does Jax know? Let's start here.
Okay. But I am going to put a little picture of Scratch because we got to start from scratch.
See? See? We're so silly over here.
We're so silly over here.
All right.
There's an ad.
I need to figure out uh if I do memberships or whatever, does that get rid of the ad stuff if you sign up? Or is that just like YouTube Premium? I don't know how it works.
Um, hello Oreo from the last live.
All right, pack. Who's ready? Who's ready? Uh, how much does Jax know? Are we starting from scratch? Are we starting from Jax? Or are we saying Jax is Scratch? We're going to be like, we're literally just going to be like googling images to paste into this thing. And we're probably going to make our own images as we watch certain scenes. Um, and I'll have to figure that out.
Jack, no, not Jack. Scratch. We can't start from the end. Look at this. Look at this little guy.
Okay, we're building this. Boop. Jacks or scratch. Jacks or scratch.
Okay, here's how I want to do this pack.
Here's how I want to do this. Have I seen murder drones yet? No, I have not.
Yo, the the thing the thing. We got a we got a thing. It wasn't working before.
Or maybe it was. Um, so here's how I want to do this pack. First things first, okay, where the space that we're going into right now is we are going to start to try to build a web of connections in this show about the amazing digital circus and what Jax knows. In order to do this, you need to relinquish all of the thoughts you have in your mind about what you think you know about the Amazing Digital Circus. Okay, we need to start from scratch. We need to start from the beginning. We're going to pretend like we have seen The Amazing Digital Circus and we haven't been in the community for 20 million years and and we're going to look at this show with fresh eyes because everything you think you know is holding you back right now. Okay?
It's holding you back. That being said, we're going to take the individual things, you know, and I'm going to rely on all of you to help me build this. I'm not going to be telling you what this is.
I am going to be guiding. I'm I'm I'm kind of a mediator, okay? We're going to be building the theory together and I'm going to mediate. And we're gonna start by just asking questions and thinking.
Okay. And um again, this is all Oh, Ann, you can call me Dan. Yeah, you can call me You can call me Dan. You can call me whatever you want.
I could I'd make a fine cult leader.
Thank you. Um Okay. So, also I do have to like I love looking at the chat. It's so fun.
But I am not used to looking at the chat and doing other stuff. And so I'm just letting you know sometimes I might have to ignore the I might have to ignore you pack in order to get a point across or else my ADHD will go crazy. Okay? So I'm if if you don't see your questions answered, I apologize. I will also be trying to focus on this because if not, we could go down a million paths. Okay.
Um, look, they're both smiling. Okay. Yeah.
Uh, Jax Jax is scratched because they're both smiling. Confirmed. Okay. Nobody else is smile. Actually, is anybody else smiling? Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. TDC doors.
Wait, is anybody else smiling? Hold up, Pack. Hold up, Pack.
Oh, Geng's smiling. Wait, BUT GANGLE IS TOO. COFFO IS WAIT IS too pack you don't even know what what Ragatha Pack. No, no, no, no. We can't do this.
We can't do this, Pack. We can't do this. This is too too too far. We've gone too far. Okay. Multiverse theory.
Whoops. Nope. We're closing that tab.
Whoops. Awkward. All right.
Not going to talk about multiverse theory today. Pack. Um, so here's what we're going to do. We're going to start with some base assumptions, okay? Because this is this is this is how we're buil we're building a theory. We're going to build a theory by starting with nothing. That's that's what you that's what you do, right? Like we don't start it by by assuming a bunch of stuff. We start it by saying Jax knows as much as everyone else.
That's our base assumption. Okay, Jax knows as much as everyone else.
Theory's over. Congrats. We did it, Peek. We did it.
But I need your guys' help. I need your help. Have you noticed times where it seems like Jax maybe knows a little more than everyone else?
That's what we're trying to think now.
Is there something in the show? So, you can you can go back to your memories of watching the show, okay?
But we're not we're going to try not to here here's what I'll say. You can remember that you've watched the show.
You have seen the show, but what you don't what what we don't really want to do is introduce like the goose work said, goose work said, goose work said.
Okay? Because everything we're going to try to build here is from the show.
Goose works can say things. some of them what might be true, but if the show contradicts Goose Works, that's what we're going to believe. Okay. All right.
Let's start with let's let's go here.
The keys. Okay. Keys are great. So, let's go. We're going to It's going to be a little bit of a process while I figure this out. You know what? I wonder if I can just pull up from uh I'm going to try to pull this up in Da Vinci so I don't have to like go to a bunch of places every all the time. And we might do some crazy stuff in here.
So, okay. I'm going to try my best. You I was messing with colors. I was messing with colors over here.
Um and again, oh, again, as a reminder, this is new for me. And and as a reminder, just do it. Even if it's imperfect, just do it. I know that a lot of this is going to be really messy and it's going to be kind of annoying and and I'm gonna stumble around more than your favorite streamer, but that's because it's new to me and I would rather just do it even if it's messy than not do it at all. You know what I'm saying, Pack?
That's the mentality we're taking here.
So hopefully I I I appreciate your patience is what I'm asking for. They both have yellow eyes. Okay, we're not we're not Okay, I need to get rid of Scratch. We're not starting at Scratch.
We're going to build up to the idea of Scratch. The thing is is like we're not we're starting at Jax. Okay. Jax knows as much as everyone else.
All right.
This is for Jaxi Poo. This is for Jaxi boy.
For Jaxi boy. Let's see if I can get rid of this. And I wonder if we can just do something like this. That'd be cool.
Yeah. Okay. All right. Jax knows as much as everyone else, right? Oh, actually, you know what? I'm going to switch this.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Chill, Pack, chill, chill, chill, chill, chill.
All right.
Jax knows as much as everyone else.
That's our base assumption. Okay, but let's talk about the times where we have thought, you know what? It's kind of weird that Jax knows this. That's what we're doing. This is how all of my theories are based off of because I noticed things. We're going to just start noticing things in the show that are kind of weird. So, the first one, someone said keys. So, let's go find let's go find the keys. Let's go find the keys.
Um, where's the keys?
Okay. Oh, yeah. We got keys to the room.
You got to tell me if this uh volume is too loud, too. By the way, also, someone pointed out that the doorbells, like the doorbell here exists, but then it goes away after this.
It's kind of crazy.
Um, so they try to get into Kofmo's room.
Jax says, "I got a key." Weird moment, right? All right. Jax knows as much as everyone else, but Jax has keys.
So, we're going to take this picture and we're going to make a little connection.
Okay.
That's what we're doing.
Animation error. It's an animation error that Jax has keys and knows everything else or the the Or was that for the doorbells? Uh, but Jax has keys.
Keys to everyone's room. Weird. Okay. Jax has keys to everyone's room. H But this is just like one thing, right? This is just a joke.
So far, so far everything we're seeing is just a little silly little joke. Just a silly little joke. Fourth wall break.
Okay. Yeah.
Let's go to a fourth wall break. I don't know if you if Pat, I don't know if you noticed this fourth wall break. I'm going to find a fourth wall break for you. Uh he breaks the fourth wall in the pilot episode at least once.
Uh but it doesn't look like it if you if you didn't notice it. Uh let's see.
Okay.
Is this volume of the Is this too loud or is this good?
You tell me.
This is a dream.
Uh no. He does this thing where he I think it's here.
Ragatha says something. Not this one.
Ragatha. Oh, no. Maybe it's not this one. Maybe I'm thinking of uh a different one.
Raga says something and he looks at the camera and goes or no, no, no. Somebody says something and he looks at the camera and then and then uh and then Ragusa says, "What are you why are you looking at me? What's Where's that? Where's that? Is that episode two?
No volume.
Oh, I mean the clip's not playing. Can you hear the clip now?
You can't hear it.
I mean, you don't really need to. Okay, that's good to know. Oh, you know what?
That's Hold on. Hold on. Fact. I can change it so that you can hear it. I think I know what's happening. I think I set it to only play music from a specific source.
Um, but uh hold on back. Hold on. Audio.
Oh, no. It's not. That's a display. Oh, well. All right. Well, you don't need to hear right now.
Okay.
Um, unless you want me to figure it out, but I don't think you need to hear it.
This is Why are you looking at me like that?
Yeah. Where is that? Why are you looking at me like that?
That's the line I'm thinking about.
That's the line I'm thinking about.
Pack.
8:32. Whoa. See, this is why you guys are so cool.
This is why having the pack to build this is really good because because we have uh we have uh everybody anyway it doesn't really matter.
Wait, should I try to figure out the sound pack? I don't know why it's not playing the sound from this. It actually should display capture.
Oh, you know what? That might just that might literally just be display.
Okay, hold on. I'll do audio.
Okay, we're going to try this.
Can you It says it's not working.
Okay, hold on.
Uh, that is from Oh, I see. I see. I see. I see. Pack. Okay, hold on. Hold on. We're figuring this out. Okay. Today it's a little rough. Today it's a little rough. Next time will be better. Next time will be better. Um, no, not here.
audio. Okay. Uh, desktop audio. Boom. Okay. Watch. Are you ready for this?
>> My impenetrable fortress.
>> Can you hear? It might be a little loud enough.
>> Let's see. Is this good?
>> Not really.
>> I think Coffmo's gone insane.
>> Is this good?
>> Is this a good Is good volume level for the thing or is it too loud? kind of like you, Pommy. You might be going insane, too.
>> Okay.
Okay. What where was the the thing? I guess it's a little hard on my uh Somebody said somebody said it was at >> for some I swear this was in the pilot.
Honestly, there's so many easier ones, right?
I was so close.
>> Oh, right here. Right here. Yeah, there it is. There it is. Okay. Okay. This one. He breaks the fourth wall right here. If you didn't notice, >> she still thinks this is a dream.
>> Uh, why are you looking at me like that?
>> Yeah. Okay. Thank you. Oh, you know what? Somebody else somebody did say this. Uh, >> so I'm sorry if I told you the this she still thinks this is a dream was not it because it was. It was it. Thank you.
Thank you, Pack.
>> All right. So, this is an instance where he breaks the fourth wall.
So, we're going to take this little pick. We're going to paste it here.
All right. And we're gonna I'm going to put them put the music back on. Just chill music.
All right.
A lot of you said that. Yeah. Well, see, see C, Pek, I appreciate you. I'm I'm I'm f I'm fallible. Okay. I might have the greatest theories in the universe, but uh but I can be wrong sometimes. You know, I can be wrong sometimes. All right. Next line is important, too.
What's the next one?
>> I like that.
>> I'm fine with doing whatever as long as I get to see funny things. to people >> as long as I get to see funny things happen to people. True. Um, all right.
Okay. So, Jax knows as much as everyone else, but Jax has keys to everyone's room. And Jax breaks the fourth wall.
Jax is the only one who breaks the fourth wall.
So, where do we want to go from here, Pack? There's a few options. We can talk more about the fourth wall breaks. We can continue to uh we can Yeah. Yeah. I already I don't know what that is. Um Jax is conjuring stuff all the time. Okay.
Yeah. Let's go the Let's go to like the first time I was like, hm, that was really weird. It was a really weird thing. Okay. And if anybody wants to go back to the fourth wall, we can because there's actually some really interesting stuff there. But it's going to give us a little bit of a tangent. So, if we want to stay focused, h it's it's like it's relevant. You know what? It is relevant to this. It actually proves quite a bit.
Um, okay. So, look at this. Look at these guys. The goats. Um, all right. So, what were we looking at?
Ah, the bazooka. The bazooka is the first time that I was like, that was weird. Okay. Do we believe pack When Jax gets the bazooka, >> he does this thing.
>> Wait. Also, look at him. He looks so cute here, too. Look at him.
Look, Pack.
Look at him.
Look at him. Pack. Oh, man.
Look at that guy. He's so cute. No. What have I done? No. Whoa. We're looking at weird stuff. No. Pack. Mom. Mom. It wasn't No. Pack. Pack. What the hell is happening? Pack. Okay. Someone just got in trouble for that. Someone just got in trouble for that. Oopsies. Sorry, Pack.
Sorry, Pack. Hey, if if uh if somebody if somebody's out there and your parents were like, "Hey, what what are you looking at?"
Just uh tell them tell them to call me, please. I'll I'll explain I'll explain everything. Okay. Um, let's see.
All right. So, >> I was just trying to show off how cute Jax was. Okay. This scene struck me as weird. Okay.
>> He does this thing first. Oh my. Look at him. He's so cute. We got to look at him again. Look at him. Look at that face he's making. Look at him. Okay.
So he does this thing.
>> Ah, it was right before this though.
>> But I'm having such trouble finding it.
>> Take this.
>> Okay, >> here it is.
>> All right. He's Why? Why pack? You know why I thought that was weird? Can anyone tell me why I thought that was weird?
Somebody in the pack tell me why I thought that was a weird moment.
Cuz I mean it's a tanker, right? It's a tanker.
Yeah. He sounds sarcastic. He brought it up before conjuring it. That's the thing is like back then that I was I didn't know what conjuring was. We didn't know what conjuring was when I watched this.
That conjuring wasn't a thing. Now we think about conjuring and now do we agree that this was him conjuring the bazooka? The main reason why cuz when I I made like a short one of my first shorts was about how Jax created the amazing digital circus. That was like my theory. That was the first theory I ever had was like Jax created the Amazing Digital Circus cuz he has too there's too many weird things going on with him.
That was what I that's what I thought.
Now this is clearly conjuring. That doesn't necessarily mean Jack's created the circus, right? But um but it is weird that uh this people people were like, "Oh, no, dude. It's it's a tanker with guns, right?" And I was like, "Yeah, it is."
But if Jax truly couldn't find a bazooka in the back of his truck, like, what do you mean? There there has to be it's either there or it's not there. This space we saw in the previous Um, oh, goodbye to Marble Fox. Go listen to your mom. Go listen to your mom.
Although I will I don't know. Yeah, I have to I'm an adult. Okay. I have to say go listen to your mom. You go listen to your mom. You go to bed. This This stream will be the stream will be here.
The VOD will be here when you come back.
But I know what it's like. I know what it's like. So you do what you got to do.
But I But if your mom asks, I told you to go to bed. Okay. I told you to go to bed. So, um, yeah. So, the thing is is like what do we know about what's in the back of this super small tanker?
We know there's knives and Ragatha and Kinger got caught up in the knives.
If it was just knives, would there be a bazooka there? And if Jax couldn't find the bazooka, would that make any sense? No. So, I thought, okay, this was weird. This was a weird moment.
So, this to me shows us now that we know that Jax knows about conjuring.
So, this was in episode two.
All right. Jax knows about conjuring.
I at the time, by the way, I I still kind of feel this way. I don't really know. I don't really know this. I think I don't think Jax conjured this and and that that is a theory in itself.
So like it it could just be Jax conjured it. I would believe that.
But you know what? If Jack said it that way where he said, "hm, I couldn't find a bazooka." Why would he even say that first off? Why would he even say that?
Did he conjure the keys in episode one?
Maybe. Maybe. Although we're if we want to talk about keys, we can we can go there. Uh, but I I guess my my thing about the keys is that he clearly stole the key off of Ragatha. So, like keys seem to be kind of important and that might actually be an interesting factor.
Um, so let's see. Uh, dream eye. That's a really good point.
Dream eye. What did Dream Eye say? I don't want to see it. Oh, we got incompetent perfectionist in here. Oh, look at this. Hey, this is IP.
Incompetent perfectionist. I don't know how to highlight IP, but uh if if IP's out there, you should go watch IP's videos. They're really really good.
Super super good. Yo, we got Craig McFersonson.
You said you weren't going to show up.
Now you're here. There's a mysterious seventh character. O, no. Craig. Craig, I know your theories are really good.
Your your theories are really good. But we got to bring it back. We got to bring it back. We got to bring it back because right now we're talking about Jax. And we think Jax knows as much as everyone else. But okay, I'm going to reel it back in.
See, Hadalio Hadalio. See you. See you, friend.
All right.
We're starting from Jacks. We're starting from scratch. We're starting from jacks. I mean I mean jacks. I mean scratch. I mean jacks. I mean scratch.
Um don't play that backwards or you might hear scratch. Okay. Hey look. Listen. Pack. Let me just say something.
You know that theory that everyone hated from film theorists?
Okay. Wait. I'm gonna, you know, that theory that film theorists made and Forest was like, I wasn't even going to say it. I wasn't even going to say it.
But the community showed me that when you say Jack's backwards, it sounds like Scratch. You remember that?
You know who found that out?
You know who told everyone about that?
Let it be known that the North Pack inspires film theory. Okay. And that inspiration was good. That was a good theory.
That was a good theory.
I don't know where I what I believe.
We're going to build up to this. Okay, we're going to build up to this. Right now, we're just at How much does Jack know? Jacks know. As far as I know, Jax knows as much as everyone else except for the fact that he has keys to everyone's door. He the only one that breaks the fourth wall. He knew about conjuring in episode two. Okay, but as far as I know, why would I say Jax is Scratch? That's that's insane, right?
So, let's let's go back. Let's go back.
But uh but if you ever wonder who's inspiring who you remember the North Pack. Okay.
All right. Let's go back.
All right. Pack Jax knows about conjuring, right? Weird.
And what I was trying to say earlier is that Jax does know about conjuring, but also it seemed like Jax said it in a very specific way, right? He said, "I thought there was a bazooka, but can't find it." So, like, what why would Jack say it that way? Right?
Why would Jack say it that way? Let's let's assume, you know, first off, it's funny. Maybe it's funny for us, the audience.
But uh but let's let's think of like a few possible reasons why Jax would say it that way. One just funny just funny for us. Makes the show a little funnier.
Uh he was mocking Pomney maybe. Yeah. But like why? That's another thing. That's like a really interesting thing. Why is Jack's mocking Pomney? Just cuz he gets some kind of like sick twisted feeling about it. Like he likes it, you know? He likes mocking Pomney and he likes feeling good about it.
Uh he does do a lot of jokes like that actually, right? He does do a lot of jokes like that.
Uh like when he goes uh when Rageta says everybody like Pom had a rough night or a rough a rough few days and Jack says her and everyone else right Gangle.
So he does it for Pomney. You could say, okay, he has a crush on Pomi maybe, but he does it with Gangle.
Uh, he did it to make Gangle make it.
That's interesting. But Gangle's driving the truck, right? So Gengal can't hear it. My thought is that he did it so that Pomney would make it. And I have a few thoughts as to why he would want Pomney to make it, but that goes down some other paths. But that was what I first thought. I thought it was kind of strange and it seemed like he wanted Pomney to do it. And at first I thought that means he can't do it for himself. But I do think that we have seen him conjure things by on his own. But I had a theory for a little bit that Jax couldn't conjure anything on his own. You know what I mean?
So uh crush come on on the second day. I mean that's a good that's a good point, but that is part of the question, right?
Let's let's let's not go down there, though. Okay. Jax knows about conjuring.
Either way, Jax knows about conjuring. I actually think there's two reasons why two like potentially bigger reasons why that could be. One of them might actually be that it like related to like the fourth wall. So if we're like here and we're going here, it one of them might be if Jax is breaking the fourth wall, he's he's doing it for an audience, right?
So like that's an interesting thought.
So he could be making these jokes for the sake of the audience.
And um and so we could we can put like another one here that is like you know he likes he likes uh hey see you see you bread.
Um, ooh, I have I have thoughts about murder drones. I actually think this is the same universe as murder drones. For the record, um, and actually many universes.
That's like related to the multiverse theory. I think I think The Amazing Digital Circus happens in the same universe as Murder Drones and as Gaslight District. I have never seen either of them. But I also think given my theories about multiverses that actually the show is going to end in a way where it's going to be the like reverse Fortnite of shows. Okay, it's going to be the reverse Fortnite of shows. You know how Fortnite pulls every single IP into it?
Like it literally announced Neopets. I saw it announced Neopets today. I was playing Neopets back when it was just a little thing and I was I was playing Neopets. I was on Neopets chat boards. Okay. I was like, what? How does Neopets have any relevancy in today's world? Does it still have relevancy? That's crazy.
But uh uh but I think that the show Amazing Digital Circus might end in a way where uh it like basically like causes a chain reaction. I think this concept of causing of of a of a single entity causing a chain reaction is important to the show.
And um I'm going to go here. So I think the amazing digital circus is a single point that might cause a chain reaction and that chain reaction is effectively every single IP can like something about it. Something about the way it ends, every single IP can adopt it. And I think the way that it does it is through the orbs. I think they're in an orb. I think the circus is in one singular bubble and that every other orb, every other adventure, everything else is just an adventure, including potentially like murder drones, including potentially Gaslight District, even maybe Gameoververse. Gameoverse is coming out in two days, and they already mentioned Hot Dogs.
Um, and the other one that I noticed and that that people have seen, I've never played Poppy Playtime. Poppy's Playtime, but we've seen there's like weird Poppy like uh Pomni characters in there, right? Like weird Digital Circus crossover stuff. That might be intentional. I think it might be intentional. I think they might have worked with the devs to make that happen.
I can't be sure. We can't be sure until episode 9 is out, but um Knights of Quinavir, I don't know. I've never seen it. That's the thing. I I I definitely want to watch Murder Drones because I think it's like the closest one. I think that might be like the next one. And so I think the way that this is going to work is that they basically like something about the circus is just a singular bubble and every single circus has to like have its expansion from like there's like a single character. It expands into multiple characters and then it goes back down into one like we saw with Kinger where it was just Kinger and then it grows again.
So, I don't know. You miss Bubble.
Bubble will be back. Bubble will be back. I've realized that Bubble is is the bubble boy virus. Bubble is the bubble boy virus.
Um, and I I didn't really want to talk about Bubble that way before because I'm like, eh. But also, Bubble is Kane. So, like Kane is a virus. Kane is a tumor. I think Kane is literally Scratch's tumor, by the way, which is like the virus, which is the bubble boy virus. They're all It's all the same thing.
Um, and I can show you things for that, but that's not what we're going to talk about now. So, I'm going to Let's go back. Let's go back.
Jack can overcome gravity when the truck scene fell.
Or you can teleport. The teleporting is actually just like a really silly fast like Roadrunner scene. I've seen that. I have not seen the overcoming gravity.
However, you know what else I have seen?
Let's go to the part where the truck is like bouncing because this actually is another reason why I thought Jax knows like a weird amount of stuff. And this I think this is going to be relevant. You you know that picture of Jax in static in the trailer?
I had this theory a long time ago that when Jax holds his breath, he can leave the digital circus.
I don't know if that's true, but that Jackson static thing is interesting. It could just be disassociation or something like that, right? It could it could be something more benign, but uh let's see.
Let's see. H. Okay.
>> Do it or I'll tell there's >> so many knives.
>> Okay.
So, this scene is what I was going to show you when they're bouncing over the rocks.
Oh, not this scene. Let's see.
When do they bounce over the rocks?
Ah, right here. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.
Bouncing over the rocks. Okay. Watch Jax's head.
Did you see Pack?
Notice how everybody else everybody else's head is bouncing. I'm going to turn the sound off for that.
But look how Jax's head is stable.
It's as if Jax is the center of the camera.
And we know that this show or this game or whatever it is is camerabased.
And so there even though a camera isn't needed in an animation, uh you can you can see that Jack's clearly his head is the center of the camera and everybody else is bouncing, which is weird. That means he's following the camera. You say he's following the camera, but he's bouncing, which means the camera is following him, right?
He's a chicken. What? He can stabilize his head because he's a chicken.
He's a chicken low key. Yeah. But what's weird is like in game development. Okay.
In game development, I used to run uh if you didn't know. Yo, we got Woo. Woo. Woo in the chat. Wait, I saw that. Yo, Wooy Woo K coyote time.
Woody is my goat. Okay, Woody Woo is my goat. Woodoo says stuff in my Discord server and I'm like I'm too dumb for this. I just you know that cat where the the flower they put the flower on the head and then it like that's like how I feel every time Woo says something and I'm like every time they're typing I'm like something crazy is about to come out of their mouth. I just know it. They're they have a a wealth of esoteric knowledge. Okay. Uh yeah, a chicken who fears corn. Speaking of corn, look at the Look at the chairs. Look at the chairs. Look at the seats. Look at the seats. Um, kind of looks like corn.
Kind of weird, huh? Kind of looks like corn. Cornball chairs. Uh, okay. But let's So, here's the thing. This is a really weird thing. Okay, because Jax Yeah, maybe Jax is a chicken. Maybe that's the valid the valid the valid argument. Okay. But uh Jax's head is stabilized, which is really weird. So, let's let's maybe not like make a theory about it and say because he could be a chicken or it could be that the camera is following Jax, which is strange. The camera is targeted on Jax's head as if it was like watching him specifically. But let's say that's like a little too much. So, let's just point out that Jax uh Jax's head Jax is the only one whose head is stabilized, which is weird.
It's a weird thing. It's a weird thing, Jax, to have your head stabilized when nobody else's is. You know what I'm saying? Kane watches them. Kane watches them. Yeah. Maybe. Yeah, I I think that's that's probably true. Um, and we know he watches them, right? Uh, but the weird part is like, but then why Jax?
Why is it on Jax? Is he Are you implying that he's watching them through Jax or that he the camera is focused on J specifically to watch them? Why is this so hard to build a thing? All right.
Okay. We're building all these connections. Okay.
Does anybody want to talk about the fourth wall thing some more?
because this actually is like pretty pretty interesting. Or we can we can go down a different path. We're still building connections. Jax knows as much as everyone else. That was our base assumption. When we watch the show, we we have no reason to believe anything else, right? Why would we believe that Jax knows more?
However, however, do we think now Pack that Jax is this information are these four connections enough to be like, you know what, maybe Jax knows more than everyone else?
In fact, let's do a little let's let's like let's like keep keep a tab on this. Okay, let's let's have Jax over here.
And let's have everyone else.
No, no, no. How about this? What we're going to do is uh these are actually cuz because there's like Kinger, right?
There's like Kinger and we believe Kinger knows stuff. So, what we're going to do, let's see if there's a good way to do this. Let's see. Do I have more shapes? Like a progress like progress. No, that's okay. Let's just do an arrow.
This is like Okay. This is like knowledge.
Okay. So, this is the the arrow of knowledge.
Arrow of knowledge.
Okay. All right. Pack, we good with the arrow of knowledge?
Okay.
So, this is the arrow of knowledge.
We're going to we're going to mark the arrow of knowledge just to make it easier.
We're going to say 0%.
Over here, we're going to put we're just going to put a few markers.
20%.
We're gonna say 40%.
We got to put a little 57% over here.
I'm going to say like 80.
I want you to tell me while I'm doing this. Where do you think Kinger lies?
Where do you think Kinger lies on this?
How much does Kinger know?
because that's a that's probably a good baseline. We think Kinger knows more than than everyone else, right?
It's the era of knowledge.
Kinger is 90.
You think Kinger knows that much? Okay.
In the dark 90.
So, we'll call him Lucid Kinger.
And we'll give him a little red red symbol. That's a it's a little one for the future. Okay. Lucid Kinger is at right here in the arrow of knowledge.
Oh, wait. The air of knowledge has to go to the back. Uh, send it back.
H, it's it's fine.
You know what? This is going to go below. There we go. That feels That feels right. That feels about right. And then these are going to go above. All right.
60 57 90. Okay. So, we're getting we're getting like we're getting like people think Lucid Kinger knows stuff, but uh not like a crazy amount. Okay.
Where do we think Jax is right now given this information? So, we started everyone else was like zero, right?
They're like Pomni. Pomi is like everyone else supposedly. Supposedly.
But just from these four facts, Jax has keys to everyone's room. Jax is the only one who can break the fourth wall. Jax is the only one who's had a stabilized. Jax knows about conjuring.
Where where are we at now, Pack from those four and nothing else?
Same as king or You think you think same as Kinger? If you're saying is Kinger, you have to convince me that Jax knows about CNA and that he knows that uh that like about Scratch.
Can you convince me of that?
20 to 30. Good point. No. Okay, that's okay.
I could convince you.
We'll get there. We'll get there. Right now, we are at 57. You guys are okay. You guys are giving jacks a lot here. I actually thought it'd be it'd be less or more.
Let's put them at 40 right now. Okay.
Yeah. 30 to 40. 30 to 40. 50. 57.
So, this is already a lot, right?
Let me ask just from these four facts on a scale. Let's see.
Tell me tell me pack before we started talking where you were at where you thought Jax was before and where you thought he was now. Where did you think just from just from where we've gone?
Did you think he was at zero and now you think he's at 30? Did you think he was at 30 and now you think he's at 50? Has nothing changed so far? You knew all of these things. What do you What were you thinking?
40 now 57.
Okay. Not much has changed. No difference currently. All right. No difference currently.
You thought it was at 75. Okay. 60 now.
Also 60. Okay. So So none of this is new. you. It sounds like a lot of you had some inkling that Jackson knew more. That's That's great. That's great. So So then maybe let's let's cut the baby stuff then. Okay, let's cut the baby stuff. We We These are all the things we've seen, right? These are all the things we've seen. These are all the things we know about.
But the pack is The Pack is advanced.
The pack is advanced. The pack doesn't need all of this. Jax knows about conjuring and Jax is the one whose head is stabilized. We've we've seen it.
Okay, so let's cut the baby stuff out.
Let's cut out the boy stuff and let's talk about the fourth wall because this is where it gets fun. Okay.
The music just dropped.
I don't know if you can hear it. It sounds fun.
Jax is the only one who breaks the fourth wall. Let's think about when Jax breaks the fourth wall and the properties related to the fourth wall breaking. Okay. Pack don't need no milk.
Pack don't need no milk. We're about to get into into some real meat stuff that I have never talked about before. Not even in any of my videos, but that I think is like really crazy. Okay. Mostly just because I don't know where to put it. That's why I like doing this. That's why I want to do this. Okay.
Let's notice a little something interesting. when Jax breaks the fourth wall in episode three.
And this one, shout out to shout out to my friend Emma in the Discord server.
Emma was the one who pointed this out to me and I have not been able to stop thinking about it. This is why I need the pack. Okay, I'm just a sponge. I'm just a vessel.
All right, we're going to look at this.
Yo, wait. The music's going to drop again.
Imagine that there was no music.
Like you couldn't hear it. Only I could hear it. That would be really funny.
Okay.
Let's see.
Okay. Are you all ready?
All right.
You couldn't hear it.
That That would be really funny. If you can't hear it, that is Well, then I guess I'm going to watch the VOD and I'm just dancing to nothing. That is That is really funny. Um, okay. So, let's talk let's talk about the fourth wall. Let's let's let's go down a little deeper on the down the fourth wall track. Okay.
>> All right. So, what happens here when Jack breaks the fourth wall?
>> What do you the the viewers think?
>> So, someone already pointed this out.
What do you the viewers think it is?
Jax is pointing at the camera. Okay.
Marine Paw is a good point. What did Marine Paw say? When he breaks the fourth wall, he's coping. I think he could probably use it as evidence that he knows he's putting on a show for Kane and wants to appear in good graces.
Okay, sure. Yeah. Yeah, that's fine.
That's fine. I actually like doesn't uh doesn't change anything about this theory specifically because the main thing that we care about, even if that's what you believe, the only thing that we care about is that Jax knows about it. But also, this is a new this is a new level.
Now, this is not what I'm saying Emma pointed out. This is actually this is actually one step before this, okay?
Because there's something that I don't think anybody else has noticed yet.
Um, but we're going to start with here.
Jax is the only one who can break the fourth wall. Not only that, Jax knows where the camera is. Jax knows where the camera is because he's pointing at us, right? He's pointing at the camera.
So now, not only have we established that Jax can break the fourth wall, you could say that like let's say that um uh what Moren Paw was saying is true, that Jax is just trying to put on a show for Kane.
But is Bubble floating around with a literal camera right now?
So then how does Jax, let's say Jax is trying to put on a show for Kane and Kane is watching and Jax knows.
Okay, let's let's let's put that too.
Let's put that too because why not? We can say that's a connection. Jax knows Kane is watching.
We can add that here.
Uh if Kane is watching, Jax knows. So we we don't actually know if Kane is watching.
Uh but if he is, Jack knows.
Okay.
All right.
So, we're establishing that Jax knows where the camera is.
He likes to break the fourth wall around green things like the plant. Yes. Ud draw. That is the crazy one. Are you ready?
>> I think it is.
>> Where is the camera?
Where's Jack pointing?
Jax, if you follow, if you follow his finger, he might be willing the camera into position. That could be true.
But what's weird is he's pointing at this plant, right? It's literally like you can trace his finger. It's pointing at the plant. There's a green couch, a green, and a plant. So, this is like this is weird, right? So, we we just say right now again, we're going to point out if we're going to like say the camera, we're going to make like another node and be like uh camera.
We're going to point out that like Jax is pointing at the plant and say and and we're going to say like is does that have anything to do with anything? We don't know yet, right?
We're not just looking at Jack's pointing at a plant and going, "Ah, he's pointing at the plant and the plant and the camera is in the plant or the plant is the camera, right?"
Like again, my point in doing this with with everybody pack is to prove that like my theories that everybody thinks is insane.
It all stems from like a common understanding. And so we are building this together. And so we're just going to point out that like Jax is pointing at a plant.
We're just going to notice it. Okay?
Because and the reason why we're noticing it is obviously because it might be it might be more relevant.
H Does the camera shift to another plant? Uh I don't think so.
>> Why is everybody just >> we actually were the perspective of the plant? I think >> for a second if we're saying that Jax is pointing at one spot, >> we were actually the camera in the plant.
which is an interesting thought, which is a very interesting thought actually.
But if Jax is pointing at the plant and he was pointing at the camera, then right now we have like one connection that like maybe the camera is like plants. We It's just like a It's just a theory. Plant plant weird, right? Plant weird.
Um, you must admit sometimes the way you present your theories comes with an insane bow around it, which is fun to me.
It only comes with an insane bow because you haven't been through this process in my mind. That's why you think it is.
That's why you think it's insane.
And it's really hard to explain. The thing is is I'm trying to take a theory that I have thought about for months and connected all of these things in my head and turn it into like a 20-minute video when I can yap about it for hours. We've already What? How long have we been doing the stream?
An hour now. And we're only what five connections in.
We could do like 50 connections by the end of this. Okay. This is why this is why I feel so confident about my theories. But let's keep going down this plant thing, okay? Cuz does anybody else know of any other times when Jax was like looking at a camera and a plant was involved? That's what we want to think now. Now, if we're just going to follow this, if we're going to follow this train of thought, this is how you make theories. Okay? You don't say, "Oh, Jax is pointing at a plant. The plant, the camera's in the plant. The camera is the plant. The plants are the cameras.
You say, "Huh, that's weird. He's pointing at a plant. I'm going to take a note." And then when you watch it again, now that you have that in your mind, you'll start to notice things that you didn't see before.
Isn't there a plant in the pilot?
There's a plant in a lot of places, but I guess I only know of, personally, I actually only know of one other time where it seems like Jax might be looking at a plant.
But there are times o now we're going to get into we're going to get into some crazy stuff if we go too far down that that route because then then we're going to have to start talking about the lights and their eyes and all this stuff. So but but let's just let's just talk about plant throws a plant in episode six. Yeah, that's true. So there's like a few things that we could think about.
There's a few ways to think about the plant thing. Uh I think that I think the most interesting one would be to just go to the other instance that I know where it looks like he's looking at a plant.
Um but just if we're like thinking about plants, we don't need to in order to establish whether or not the camera is in the plant or whether the camera is the plant. Um, we don't actually need to know that like every moment where Jax is pointing at a camera, it has to have a plant, right? We could look at all of them. We could definitely look at all of them. And in fact, I wonder if we went back to that original scene that we were looking at. Should we try? I actually haven't tried this. Let's Let's try something. Here's here's another important part of theory crafting. Okay.
There's a grassy area and grassy plants.
Yeah.
The implication though, right, is that anytime the implication here is that anytime that there is an ability to break the fourth wall or that we embody the thing the audience that is breaking a fourth wall um that there is a plant potentially, right? This is the hypothesis. This is this is the like if you really wanted to create a theory around plants and cameras, you would create a hypothesis.
Huh? He's pointing at plants. Maybe anytime he looks at I wonder, you would say, I wonder, are there other times in the show where plants are around when he's breaking the fourth wall? Or is there a time maybe if you wanted to disprove your hypothesis, you would go with the null hypothesis. You would say anytime Jax breaks the fourth wall, is there not a plant in the scene? that would that would potentially just disprove the whole thing, right? That would just disprove the entire theory. So, you could go looking around at every single scene where Jax is intentionally breaking the fourth wall and try to see if there's a plant there. And if there's even one scene where there's no plant and he's breaking the fourth wall, then that probably means it's not the plant. It could be something else. Yeah. And it could be maybe it's not the plant. Maybe it's the color green. Maybe it reminds him of ribbon. That's where you would start saying, "Okay, maybe there's something with green." And you would start looking into that. But let's let's go look at this. There's no plants when he talks about the bazooka. Yeah, I mean that's true, but then you have to ask the question, is he trying to break is he breaking the fourth wall there?
That's where actually maybe that like and that brings up a good point. So let's say let's say we've already proven that the plants are cameras or something, right?
In some other we're in some future where we prove that. Then you could go back to that scene and say, "Well, one of our theories was that Jax was breaking the fourth wall in order to talk to the audience."
Uh, but one of our other theories was actually that Jax was just trying to get Pomni to do it. He was trying to get Pomni to think about it or somebody said Gangle or somebody, right? So like if he's not doing it in order to break the fourth wall because he knows that there's no camera there then he could just be trying to do it for Pomni to either one. And then you'd ask the question why is he doing it for Pomney? Is he doing it because he's trying to test Pomni to see how well she can conjure if he can just suggest something? Can Pomi conjure, which again just shows that he knows about conjuring and about powers, or is he just saying it just so that nobody else in the scene gets suspicious of him, which is a little bit weird, right? Uh but even then, we we still have the theory, right? So like there's a lot of stuff.
He's pointing out uh the green couch in this new framing as well. Yeah, I mean you're right. He is pointing at the green couch. Technically, he is pointing at the plant and his fingers literally bending upwards to like point at it, but he is kind of also pointing at the at the plant.
Okay.
So, uh but you know what? Okay. Here's another important part of theory crafting that I want to that I want to talk talk about. Sometimes you're going to look into stuff and it just is nothing. This plant thing, it might not even be real. Right? So far, all I've shown to you is that there's two things or one thing. I haven't even shown you the second one. Let's look at the second one first. Uh, but then somebody remind me after we look at the second one.
No, no, no, no. Before we look Okay, the second one is in episode 8 that I know about in episode 8 when they're doing the can can. Okay, that's that's your that's your hint. But before we do that, the other thing about theory crafting that I was going to say is that um sometimes you just need to look at stuff. I I have spent months looking at stuff and so many things just nothing.
Just absolutely nothing. Doesn't mean anything. So what I want to do is go back to that scene we were looking at earlier where we saw Jack's breaking the fourth wall and I want to see if he's pointing at a plant there because I actually have no idea. I actually have no idea.
So, we're going to do that together. And normally in my mind, I was like I was I was thinking like, nah, we shouldn't do that. It's like a waste of time because I don't know if it's there or not. But that's like kind of the point. We're doing this together, right? And and I want to prove that like sometimes you just have to waste some time. That's just part of theory crafting because you have no idea if the connection exists.
And so you have to have a hypothesis and you have to look. Well, first off, we see a plant in the background here. So we we have established there is a plant in the scene. Okay. So that's good to know. But where is Jack's pointing when he does this? That's the question. Do we think Look, more plants. Now we're starting to notice plants everywhere.
What happens when what is he saying when the plants come into focus?
>> Had enough of these things.
>> I've had enough of these things.
>> See, that is so interesting.
That's crazy. We haven't even talked about the cornball. We haven't even talked about the cornball.
Oh man, I think I'm gonna I think I'm jump I'm getting ahead of myself, though.
Okay.
Um, so let's see. Let's go back to him looking here. So, where's he looking? AHA.
Look at this. Look at this pack. I have never seen this before. I have never seen this before.
When Jax is talking, when Jax is breaking the fourth wall, look at the perspective. Okay, Jax, from Jax's perspective, Gengal is behind him and he's losing your mind.
>> In front of him is Pommy and Ragatha.
And what's behind Ragatha?
Raggatha thinks that he's looking at her, right? Raggatha thinks that he's looking at her, but what's behind Ragatha?
>> Think I'd like to ask him about it. Uh, if this was real, which it isn't because it's a dream.
>> She still thinks this is a dream. So Jax is looking past Ragatha at something at us.
He's breaking the fourth wall for us.
But we've seen that uh sometimes we can actually be the plant. So that's like a really interesting thought.
And again, I've never seen this before, but it's the hypothesis. We think that cameras are either in the plants or the cameras are the plants, right? There's something interesting about them and Jax seems to know it.
So that's another weird thing.
In President Pomny, Jack barked the fourth wall and Kane was looking at them through a TV. Yeah, exactly. And there's plants in that scene. There's plenty of plants. There's plants in like paintings there, too. So Jax knows where the camera is.
camera >> we have seen even though we didn't see it in the same scene. This is why this show is so good. By the way, no none of us notice this because like Jax isn't looking at it every time it it's put in the scene.
It's established that the plant is there and then it does something else. The show is so good. Goose Works and Glitch.
This is like this has to be like glitch that is like taking Goose Works Goose Works' vision and like bringing it to life and there are like super smart animators and super smart like showrunners or who I don't know I don't know who's running the show here. Okay.
I don't know who it is, but but whoever is doing all of these things, whether it's like Goose Works or whether Goose Works said like, "Yeah, I like has like showed it or explained it to somebody and then somebody took that vision and was like, "Yeah, now we're going to do this in every scene." Basically, somebody the whole team or somebody some part of the team knows there are like effectively rules, right? Like I think Gooseworks created rules and explained it to the team and said when you animate these are all the rules.
Okay.
So Goose Works and Glitch are extremely in lock step with everything they do and the animating team has to know it. they have to know at least their part that they need to care about to animate that section of the show.
Um, and I don't know like there's probably it's probably distributed. Not everybody knows everything, right? But when they're placing the scene and they're putting the plant behind them, they know if the camera is in the plant and you have to if if Jax is going to goose works had to have told them if you want to break the fourth wall, if we are going to break the fourth wall, the plant has to be behind them because that is what Jax has to point to. Jax has to point to a plant or has to be looking at a plant if he's breaking the fourth wall, right?
And that's what's interesting. Nephilax, we are part of the cornball. That is interesting. And this is this is where like I'm just going to kind of like tease this again. I've never seen any of the these are like why I love all of this all of these things. Goodbye Moren Paw. Thanks for thanks for stopping by.
Um is like I have seen so many things to already believe this, but I've never seen this specifically. Right.
But I notice a few things here >> because if we if you already know about the corn ball and everything, right? Um, if you already know about the cornball, then like the the cornball is, you know, the abstracted souls and I think they're still alive and in the cornball. You've seen my theory about it.
And now we're establishing that like there's potentially an audience that's watching through a plant. And sometimes it's us, but sometimes it's not. So that's a really interesting way to think about this. Sometimes the audience is us, but sometimes it's not. So it involves us. We become the cornball. We become the abstracted cast who is watching. We become the audience and and in this in this stream I have not established that the cornball is the extra cast but if you've seen my other videos and you and you believe that uh that that is why the reason the reason why the plant relates to the cornball is because um you know and this is again this is why people think I'm crazy because now all of a sudden I'm jumping to the cornball and you're like what the hell how did we get to the cornball and the plant right this is why you think I'm crazy but if we did this exact same exercise, which will take us five hours to get to that point. Who knows at this rate? Um, if we do that exact same exercise, we could we could we're going to continue building this all the way up to the cornball. Okay?
And if the cornball if we can establish that the cornball is the audience and we can establish that the plants are the audience, then that means the cornball and the plants are related, which is why this next scene was super interesting to me.
This is what I've been trying to build up to.
>> Okay.
>> So, he looks at the camera. We see that.
>> Uh, why are you looking at me like that?
>> But then >> whatever as long as I get to see funny things happen to people.
>> There's some interesting implied stuff.
>> Okay, I've already had enough of these things.
>> So, it hits him. It the glink hits him and he says, "I've had enough of these things."
And uh and in the back there's two plants and a bunch of stars which IP has talked to me about the stars. I won't spoil the stars from from uh imperfect perfectionist. Is that is that IP? Is that what that means? Uh but that stars are related to the same thing too.
So IP, if you're still here, there's another there's another thing for you.
More stars. Although I'm sure you've seen it. Uh but maybe you didn't know about the plants.
So what's interesting is that like Jax uh it hit Jax and it put these plants into view and he said he's he's had enough of those things which are the glinks. And so there's this like weird like could this mean exactly a bagel guy. So now we've created another hypothesis, right? Could this mean that the GOinks might be controlled by the abstracted cast?
Like that's like a crazy theory. Even even that in itself, right? If you went if I took that question to uh YouTube or Instagram or anything Tik Tok today and said, "Are the glinks the abstracted cast?" It would be like really weird, right?
Should the glints have stuck to him?
Yeah, these are all good questions.
These are all incredible incredible questions. These are all great.
Um, yeah, the the why didn't the glinks stick to him? I don't know. I don't even know how I would write that in this theory. Like, like I'm sure that's relevant to this theory, but so far we haven't established any anything to like think that it's weird that the glinks don't stick to him. I don't know. I guess we can Yeah, sure. Let's say that.
Does the glow do the glinks not stick to something else? That would be the question. If it's only Jax, then why why did it only bonk Jax's head and bounce off?
That's like weird.
Let's Let's put it here. Let's just put it here. It's another weird thing.
They don't stick to Kofmo.
Interesting. the abstracted Kofmo.
Uh, okay. But, but Jack's has keys to everyone's room. Uh, GOinks don't stick to him.
It clearly stuck to Zubel, though. It stole Zubel away. Although, it had to like punch Zubul a bunch to do it, right? So, that's really interesting.
There's a There's a reason the glings take the lampost. I know it'll make sense after episode 9. Yeah, there is.
Can I just say a crazy theory without explaining it?
Can I just say a crazy theory without explaining it?
Cuz if I have to explain this, we are gonna we're going to be talking about stuff for so long.
All right, let me tell you my crazy theory. Who's who said the This is for you. Um who said the glink uh the the lamp post thing? Verb does stuff. This one's for you. Verbs does stuff. Where's the lamp post?
>> There's like a few crazy theories from this.
You're immediately going to ask me to explain this. I know it. I know it. But I warned you. I warned you. I don't want to take too much. Oh, why does this keep going away from here? Come over here.
Okay.
What I'm trying to do is this. Fit it here. Okay.
Yeah, sure. Let's do that.
>> Okay. Knocks over the trash can. Doesn't steal the trash can. That's also interesting. Doesn't take the trash can.
Do you notice the colors of this trash can? Let's just I'm not even going to explain it, but just like let's just imply some stuff, okay? And just kind of notice patterns. Do you notice the colors of the color of the trash can?
What if you had to like think of this this trash can's color scheme? What what what would come to mind?
It's brown. That's interesting. Is it brown?
Yeah. I think it looks like black.
There's like two colors, right? Like black and gold or like gray grayish gold maybe.
Whenever I've seen this, it has the same color as a lampost. It is very very similar. You're right.
Uh this to me has looked I don't know if this means anything, but it kind of looks like Kane's cape, right? Like his pants and his cape. That's what I've thought.
It kind of looks similar.
You know what I mean?
Right. There's like the plus if you think about like the purple that's coming out of it. Purple's like what?
Bubble and like the soaps and lotions that Kane turned bubble into.
Red lighting on top, blue lighting on the bottom. Where are you seeing that? I must have missed miss something. Are we talking about the lamp?
The voting awards with the gold. It's a CMYK.
It's a lot of stuff. It's the same color in the lamp post.
So, the glowing is a purple star. I think it represents jacks because the cards maybe, maybe. But actually, okay, here's here's here's the crazy theory that I didn't that I don't want to explain, and I'm going to establish it from this trash can. What if this trash can is Kane?
What if like the way that this show ends is cyclical? It it like resets, right? I think I saw there was a video about the um don't hug me, I'm scared thing, which I think is very relevant. I haven't finished the video. I didn't have time yet, but I think it's very likely related. What if it does kind of start and what if there is a bunch of multiverses? And what if and what if and what if and what if what if this is Kane and these are bubble?
I know it doesn't make sense but but like what if there's some weird time thing happening, right? And everything's happening on at time all the time.
Everything everybody is something.
Remember how we were like well what if the abstracted cast are glinks? What if they are glinks or what if the glinks are the characters? What if this is one of the characters we know? What if this is Kofmo? Or what if this is Pomi? Or what if this is like the Gloink? The Gloink. Okay.
And what if that trash can is Kane? And what if these are bubble? Then what if this lamp post is Jack's?
Because now I know I said I wasn't I wasn't going to get into the like, oh, you know, Goose Work said this or or or whatever, but for this theory, we can because it's just already out there.
Uh, like what if this lampost is Jack's and Michael Kovak was the one who responded to um, you know, the reason why is because Michael Kovak was the one who responded to Goose Works laughing about this little lamp. What if this is Jack's? What if the cornball up here, this red cornball is something? What if this glink is somebody? What if this is somebody? What if all of these things we like see from a completely different perspective once the show ends? You know what I mean?
Be crazy. Anyway, that was my like crazy theory that I I honestly there's not really much to explain. I have just noticed one of the one of the things is is related to merch though. I guess I'll show you that because I that's where I started thinking about this and after all the weird like goose works talking about the lamp stuff. Um, if you look at like T8C Hot Topic, Hot Topic has some specific T8C merch and if you look at their like earrings.
Uh, oh, but I need to do uh the digital circus.
digital circus.
See, look at this. Oh, look the purple star.
It's kind of weird, right? That there's like these uh that there's like a a green square with the cane earrings and then there is a purple star with the Pomni earrings and a yellow, red, yellow, blue, and red.
Right. This is kind of a that's kind of a weird earring pattern. But here But here we do see Okay, just to be fair, we do see more palm knee earrings with not a purple star, but a yellow moon.
But why do they keep showing all these glinks and the one that hit Jack? Yeah, I guess it was a square, but it was green, right? It was a green square.
So, uh, yeah. Oh, you know the one that hit Jacks was the green square. You're right. You're right. It's right here.
Um, so yeah. Anyway, I have noticed these are like the things, right? These are just weird things that I notice.
And when you notice them, then you keep them in your head. So then when the glink comes on the trash can that looks like Kane. Okay. Don't do not clip that one out of context.
When the glink jumps on the trash can that looks like Kane. Okay.
Uh pack then. Um yeah. Okay. We're talking about somebody's mentioning moths.
Moths to the flame. Who's the moth to the flame? Trying to the the lamp is to draw Queenie in needful.
I saw your theory.
What if the lamp is Kinger? What if it's not Jax? But what if Kinger is Jax?
What if Jax is Never mind. We don't have to go down that path. All right.
So, how we doing, Pack? How we doing? Have we lost the plot?
Are we still Are we still engaged?
Where do we go from here?
There is a repeating joke in the merch of Jack being Pomney. There's a repeating joke of in the uh in the commercials and and everything.
Okay. Oh, I need to show you the other time. Okay. So, we saw this. We saw this camera and plants. Fourth wall, plants, and camera. That's crazy.
These are all connected. That's pretty crazy.
Okay, scratch. Oh, we are so far from scratch. We are so far from scratch still. How long have we been doing this?
An hour and a half. All right.
Um, let's see. Okay. Okay, I want I want to show you one more time where I think it's really interesting because this Okay, if Jax knows about the cameras and knows about plants and the cameras in the plants, isn't that really weird?
Isn't that really really weird? Bubble with a camera. Bubble, is that plant maybe? But let's look at the Let's look at the other one I wanted to show you.
Um, where did my Aha, over here? because this one's really interesting. Also pointed out to me by Emma. Shout out to Emma.
Okay.
So, in episode 8 when they doing a little can can.
Okay. Let's let's just imagine let's just imagine what we are about to see before we even see it. Okay. Pack.
Imagine your jacks.
and you know that there's cameras and that the cameras are either in the plants or are the plants and then Kane puts you in a golden leotard.
How would you feel if you're Jax?
What is Jack's feeling at that moment?
And let's see if we can like Right. The these are consistent characters that have consistent feelings and feel things. Anger. Okay.
Maybe embarrassed. Maybe. Okay. So, we have anger. We have embarrassed.
Confusion.
Okay. So, we're going to like we're going to think about this.
If Jax knows that there is an audience watching from the plants, first off, I guess there is another time in episode 4 where we know Jax is worried about being watched when it's during the training sequence, right?
And so we know that Jax is potentially embarrassed by the idea of doing something embarrassing and being watched, right? Welcome back, Marble Fox. Welcome back. I'm calling your mom right now.
The Marble Fox's mom, he's not in bed or they're not in bed. I don't know your I don't know your pronouns. The Marble Fox is not in bed.
Busted.
Busted. She's coming in. You better hide.
I told you I'm an adult. I'm an adult. I got to I got to I got to align with adults here.
Okay.
All right. So, if Jax if Jax is worried about people watching him, that that does sound like more potentially like embarrassed, right?
You know what I mean?
All right. Real ordinary fish stickick.
Good night if you're going to sleep. But let's But if you if you want to see this, we'll do it super fast. Okay.
We're going to get there. Kane is going to make him dance and we're going to see how Jax is going to react around the the plants in his leotard.
Love. We love this song. I can't hear it. Okay, so Jax is in the leotard.
Okay, first off, are there any plants in the scene? Let's establish that. Aha, we do see plants. Okay, we see plants on the two ends.
So, if there's plants on the two ends, what is Jax doing?
Where's Jack's looking? Is he looking at Kinger or is he looking on the sides?
Okay, let's like trace. Let's like trace a line here. Oops.
What am I doing right here?
I'm I'm getting my magic. I'm doing this is like I'm using edit video editing tools to try to do something here.
Uh, okay. Bring it back. Bring it back.
Okay. Ribbit is the plant. Interesting.
That is an interesting thought. See, now you are all insane theorists. Welcome to the land of insane theories where you will be ridiculed by the entire community for saying ribbit is the plant.
See, it's so funny. Welcome, welcome, welcome, Northpack. You are now an official Northpack member for creating an insane theory like Ribbit is the plant. So, you have you have earned your fangs. All right. Yeah. But yeah, look.
But look, if we have this gigantic arrow of truth and we trace Jax's eyes, he is looking in the direction of the plants.
Right.
I guess this is like if I'm really tracing his eyes and I'm trying to like mimic the angle, then I'm putting like the center of the arrow here over there. And where does it line up? Yep, it lines up literally to the plant.
Okay.
Why is there even a plant there? That's a good question. It's interesting.
Yeah. Like maybe Ribbit is the plant, you know, if maybe Rivet's the plant. Maybe it's not a camera. Maybe Ribbit's the audience and Ribbit's the plant. I have never thought that before. I've never thought that before.
But maybe it's not the camera. Maybe they are all objects. Because literally a minute ago, we were talking about how some of these characters might be objects. So why couldn't Ribbit, the green frog, be the green plant? That makes so much sense. Which is why Jax would be embarrassed to see it. Which actually might imply that like uh yeah, ordinary fish stickick, congrats. You just you just created an insane theory that might be true.
You might be like I was the first one to say that.
Congrats. Um because I actually think yeah, it could be. Maybe maybe the camera is all of them. Or maybe maybe the plants are the the cornball, but maybe Rivet's the cornball. Maybe it's, you know, it's I don't know. Coffmo is being the paintings. Maybe Kofmo is the paintings. Maybe Kofmo is the paintings.
See, I've we I haven't even created this theory. This is This is how the Amazing Digital Circus rewards those who are searching. The Amazing Digital Circus will reward anybody who takes the show seriously to a degree that you guys do not understand.
It rewards anything. You could have any interest. You could go down any line and if you take it seriously and don't listen to the yellow fish in the community that are telling you, there's nothing here. Get in your face.
You want my treasure? You're not going to get it.
I got that video about the yellow fish.
You know, you seen that one.
Um, all right. A random person, too. Thanks for showing up. But, uh, yeah, like you could be super interested in looking at anything. And if we are saying that they're objects, maybe Kane was a trash can, maybe there's a moth and a lamp, maybe maybe Ribbit is the the uh the plants, but like let's again we have to think about this. Let's say the plants aren't the camera. Let's say that the camera like it the camera are all the objects like anybody that's an object can see. That's interesting because actually we have seen eyeballs in the paintings. You know, we've seen all the eyeballs. Maybe that's where Kane watches from or maybe somebody else.
Maybe it was Kofmo.
But speaking of Kofmo, if we think about the trailer poster or like the poster for episode 9, it is really interesting.
See, it's so that's so it's so cool.
Let's look at the poster.
Somebody said that Kofmo might be the paintings.
Let's look at the poster. Uh uh TDC. Oh, here. I'm going to put this back.
TDC movie poster. Bread egg. You have a theory. Congrats. You have an amazing This is a very interesting theory to me because look at the poster.
Who do we know that Who do we know that Kinger really cares about?
Uh oh. I cannot zoom in. This will not let me zoom in. Hold on.
Okay, we're going to find a different picture.
Reddit.
Reddit photo. Can I just get a photo of the poster by itself, please? Please, please, please. Fandom.
I just want a poster I can zoom in on.
You know what? Ah, okay. This is this is good enough. Wait, is it pack? We're getting lost in the plot.
Okay, we're gonna we're taking this poster. We're putting it in our in our video editor because we know we can do it.
Wait, what? No.
I'm sorry, Pack. This is going This is going crazy.
We're going to get there though. We're going to get there.
Uh uhuh. Uhuh.
Pool. First off, we've we've lost the plot on the Jacks thing, but this is this is a really interesting line of thought because of what I'm about to show you. Does anybody even know what I'm like implying here so far?
Has anybody like caught on to like the the idea that I'm implying here by everything we've just talked about?
Because I I've never thought this. I mean, maybe I have, but like not not seriously.
And I think there's a really interesting thought here. All right. We're gonna make the poster by itself. We're going to make it big. Okay. Well, all right.
We're gonna try our best. Okay. We're trying our best here, Peek. We'll get Oh my god.
My god.
At least it's not Kane's dingling this time. Okay. All right. Static. We're looking at the static. Okay.
All right. Here's the poster.
So, somebody said somebody said somebody said, "Ba, keep keep walking. Keep walking.
Keep walking. Keep walking.
All right. Somebody said, um, what if, uh, Kofmo is like the paintings? What do we know that that Kinger really loves?
Ker really loves Queenie, right? We know Kinger loves Queenie.
Queenies's bucket maybe. But here's here's a here's a weird interesting thing. First off, okay, look look at all these things we're seeing now on this poster. Actually, look at the plant.
The plant. Where's the plant next to?
The plant is literally next to Ribbit, who is literally next to Ragatha.
Interesting.
Very interesting. Okay.
But we didn't I didn't remember that the plant was right there a second ago. And in fact, I have thought I have thought my theory was that the plant was the camera. But now maybe the plant is Ribbit.
Maybe the plant is Ribbit. Her arms do look like a plant. But then somebody else in the pack said, "What if Kofmo is the paintings then?" Right?
What if Kofmo is the paintings?
What if Kofmo is the painting?
Then it's so interesting how Kinger is being shown as like holding Kofmo, but he's not actually holding Kofmo.
He's chasing a butterfly that's in front of the camera or sorry, that's in front of the painting. Kinger is holding a butterfly that's in front of the painting that is in front of Kofmo that we know that the butterfly is meant to represent Queenie.
And then somebody else was saying talking about the lamp and how these are butterflies but that maybe it's like a moth. Maybe they're like moths in this case and they're the moth the the lamp is drawing the moths in, you know.
And this is Kofmo, literally Kofmo in the painting, but think about like other times we've seen paintings in the show because that's where it's like interesting because we're like, okay, butterflies here are being shown with Kofmo and being shown with the paint, you know, around Kinger and around the painting. But like if we go to episode let's let's go to episode uh seven when in episode seven when they when they go to Jax oh there's Ribbit with all the hands.
Um, if we go to Jax's abstraction scene and after, okay, when Abel shows up.
>> Yeah, he's not actually an NPC.
>> Let's watch this.
>> He's a human like us.
>> Yes, I know. Getting stuck with a blank mannequin body of all things can but the whale.
>> Okay.
>> And get back to the real world.
But please keep it discreet. If Kane catches on, >> okay, what does he say? If Kane catches on, >> and it shows these two eyeballs, which by the way, what else do we see in this scene, the eyeballs are brown, there's the weird like opening thing. I think this this opening thing might be important as well.
We only see them run through it one time, I think, when um Pomny's running away from the abstraction.
And then two yellow couches. Really weird. But if Kane is watching and we also see Jax's door in the background, which again we're just going to take a note of. But then he says, "Who knows if he'll ever let us leave.
>> I doubt he'll ever let us leave or get this far again," he says. And we see in the paintings, we see this eye, which all of these paintings in the hallway are the same colored eyes as one of our favorite characters who abstracted.
So, what if Kane isn't necessarily the one watching? Or what if Kane is? But what if all the brown eyes in the hallway are for someone else? And what if that means then that the eyes in the hallway are the ones watching, right?
And if the hallway eyes are queeny Yeah. What if they're Queenie?
What if Kofmo is Queenie? You know what I mean? Like now it's like I'm not saying it's true. I'm just saying like the connections are weirdly there.
There's a lot of weird connections of paintings and Kofmo and butterflies and plants and ribbit and ribbit reaching for Ragatha, right? Like I don't know what it is. I don't know what it is.
But like when you remove the what you think you know about the show right now all of a sudden we're in this like space that is like you know what yeah there's all these weird connections and and now that we've like removed the show from our mind.
Uh you know kind of weird teapotss. Did we ever figure out the teapotss? I don't know. There's one right here.
If if the objects are characters, who would this be? This is like most by Jack.
The teapotss we see are shown with gummy goo.
It is a reference to 3D modeling, but now we're talking about teapotss and we're talking about characters as objects.
You know, teapot is Ragatha. maybe, but it's not close to her in this image.
It is the most close to Jack's. But also, look at this. Is this a Gangle ribbon, by the way? I don't think I ever noticed this ribbon.
Uh, that's a Gangle ribbon.
Or it looks like it.
They're as planets.
Teapotss are everywhere in the show.
Yeah. Do they I I heard they only appear after episode two though. That's what Leonardo was saying in the in the pack.
And Leonardo loves studying Kane and Gummy Goo.
Uh and has studied teapotss a lot. Uh Leonardo also has um a channel. I saw IP is back. Yo, IP, were you here when we were talking about the um the plants and the stars next to the plants?
Very interesting.
Uh but yeah, Leonardo has pointed out that um yeah uh huh did we establish now that the plants are the cameras and the abstracted cast or ribbit?
What if Ribbit is all of them?
Okay, now we're See, now we're going down like crazy crazy theories. Okay.
Ones that I'm like I'm like we don't even we don't need to go. We there are there there are way more sane theories than literally the paintings and the objects in the the thing. Okay.
Uh okay. Please see this. All right. The marble fox cane can see. Cameras equals the committee. Abstractions can see.
Plants equals the real world can see.
Jax knows this and is breaking the fourth wall. There's plants to try and communicate. Ra yeah.
You saw the teapotss with the stars.
See, this is why it's there's so much. I want to say so much, but it's just going to be too crazy.
Okay. All right. Pack.
We We went We went way off the rails, but you you see how this works, right?
You all seeing it? Y'all getting the vision of like the insane theory, right?
Um, just also saw it in my travels during the rewatch. Yeah.
Um, Dreamy Cyclops, see what did you think about the uh the objects objects theory? I don't know what we're calling it. That was that was a crazy that was a crazy tangent.
But if I if I made a short I like literally I could like go and make a a video after this and just be like object theory. The characters are objects. Here's this. Here's that.
Here's this. And everyone in here will be like yo dude that was crazy. That was so cool. That was such a cool moment.
my comment section.
You don't even want to know.
There are too many coincidences. See, that's exactly that's all of my theories. Verb does stuff. There are too many coincidences. This is the point of this chart right here because we would have forgotten about all these things.
And we've only again, we literally have only just started with this. I don't know how long this stream is going to be. Uh, if I'm being honest, I thought it was going to be over by now, but um, like I'm like, we could we could still go. We can still go. We can still uh do do things. Uh, the Marble Fox got got to go to sleep, though. You know, not going to leave until the the stream ends. But, um, okay. So, here's what we're going to do. We're gonna go back to um Did you Did I already have these planned? Uh all of these connections?
No, not at all. Nuh-uh. There are so many connections. This is where like this is why I wanted to do this with the pack because there are like 20 to 40 other things that I'm thinking about that like prove that Jax knows more than he should.
And uh I don't even have to say them. I we just I we just have to start talking about it. And all I'm doing is is being a mediator. I'm just kind of guiding us through it because I do know that some of these are relevant and maybe some of them are not or less relevant or maybe some of them are really interesting. But we uh we saw a bunch of really cool stuff, right?
Including about the plants. And we haven't even added this one yet. We haven't even added this one. Let's see.
Because if you recall, the last thing we were looking at was the fact that like Jax knows that there's stuff in the plants.
Maybe it's Ribbit, right? Maybe it is Ribbit. We know that there is an audience in the plants. And before we were thinking about it as the cornball and about the abstracted cast, maybe it is. And maybe that implies something about Ribbit with their multiple arms reaching out to Jacks. Maybe every time somebody extracts, the ribbit comes and grabs them.
That's really interesting.
Which also, by the way, might be why Ragatha is shown in this poster with the ribbit arms reaching out to her.
Because if you remember the previous episode, there's stuff that hasn't happened yet from the um this cane thing. In fact, like let's go look at the cane thing now. We're we've we've gone off the rails with the Jacks thing, but let's uh where was that like uh I'm just going to go to Glitch uh Twitter and we're going to find that image of uh Kane from episode 8. That was like an episode 8 teaser. I think that's an episode 9 teaser. I don't think we've seen any of that stuff other than Kane with his multiple arms, which is why and then Kane died, which is why we think it's not Ka, which is why we think it's episode eight. But there's too many coincidences. Again, speaking of coincidences and um Okay, what?
Bro, how did I already get this far first off? But also, Kane creating the Powerpuff Girls.
Really? And we're going to be like, "Oh, no. They're all just humans. They're all just six humans. Kane didn't create any of them." Really? Oh, come on.
All right.
It doesn't like me.
Uh, there was a teaser on YouTube. Oh, yeah.
They did like a flyby, huh?
Um, no. Gameverse.
Uh, let's see. Glitch YouTube.
cover thingy. Looks like king sundoss.
Interesting. I don't I don't know what a king sundue is. What's a king sundue?
Like a plant. Yeah, it looks like a plant.
Yeah. See what I mean?
See what I mean?
De Marble Fox, I called your mom. She said it's cool. Actually, she said you you can stay up. You're chill. You're chilling. You're theorizing like how could she expect you to sleep at that point? You know, uh she she gave you the permission. Look at that king sundue.
How why does a type of plant matter? It uh does the type of plant matter? I don't know. Maybe the sun is an important element here. So, I don't know. Again, this is where like you guys are going to see you guys are going to see how insane Goose Works is. This is why people are like, "Bro, you're so arrogant." Like, you know, people don't believe in your theories. And you tell them like, "All right, you don't have to believe it. Like, you'll be back. We'll talk after."
Because I see this this stuff all the time. This is like I've never seen this before. And I have like millions of these in my head. Um, and I think they're all intentional. All of this all of this all of this is intentional. Is this the like if we find out that Ribbit has some relationship to the sun then? And then they show Ribbit like this plant and I just it's it's so intentional. Like the level the layers that Goose Works is putting into this show is so crazy because think about like any of the stuff we've talked about today. This is one hour of talking.
Okay, this is like two hours of talking and we're already seeing like crazy stuff that I've never seen before. It's a Is it a carnivorous plant? Are you serious? This is a carnivorous plant.
You know who else is a carnivore? Jacks.
Or he wants to be. That's an interesting question.
Jack seems to like carnivores. Jack seems to want meat. And this is a plant that eats insects. Apparently, it is a plant that eats insects.
Carnivorous.
And it has reached out to Jax to take it into the cornball, the abstraction. And now we're seeing it's reaching out to Ragatha, this plant, this carnivorous plant.
And the point that I was going to show you is uh where was like a we saw? Yeah. Was there like a flyby? See that like the animator did? Was it the animator? Did Glitch post it? It was like the animator, right?
Oh, yeah. I don't think it was on their channel. It was like the the person who animated it did the flyby. Check the posts. Oh, is it in the posts?
It could be in the post, huh?
Uh, but do you remember what's happening here? Yeah. Okay, here it is. This is the I mean the main one I wanted to show you was the one in the post right under it actually because why is Ragatha going to a door?
Like we've never seen this Ragga looking at this door of an abstracted mannequin. Into the door there's abstractions, you know.
Um why?
And then all the eyeballs looking at her and at Jax.
Like there's just so much here.
There's so much Ragatha. Don't open that door.
We haven't seen this. This is like episode 9. I think this is episode 9 material or or you know stuff. Is this This is going to be really small, huh? I don't know how to get Oh, it's so sad.
Uh, T8C8 teaser image.
I'm sure this is probably the easiest way to get a bigger one. Oh, yeah. This one's huge. No, Reddit. I just want to go to the image.
Yeah, look at this one.
I don't know why my Oh, cuz Zoom doesn't work on Reddit. That's so funny. Come on. Come on, dog.
I'm sure I already have this, but we're going to put this now in uh Oh, boop pop.
We're going to replace this thing with it.
Yeah. Whoa. It's spinning.
Okay. See, now we can see it a little bit better.
Can we do something with the fact that King Sundus also wrap their around their prey? Yes, we can. But like this is I literally think that that is intentional. And and like look, oh, it's crazy. By the way, you know who's wrapping their hand around their prey right now? Kane around Zubil right next to the plant.
You want to talk about that?
Just saying. Too many coincidences, right? some point at some point at some point, you know, and that and like that's such an interesting proposition, right? like Cain wrapping his hands around Zubul the same way that Ribbit looks like they're about to wrap their hands around Bragatha and like just like oh there's somebody watching and they watch from the paintings and the paintings are are Queenie and Queenie is the paintings are also Kofmo apparently the eyes it's just there's It's too much. It's too much. It all goes back to vessel theory. That's what I'm saying.
This is why like also, by the way, all of those all of those uh poll options that I gave you, they all like go back into the same thing. People are like, "How are all of your theories going to like how are they going to prove all of your millions of theories by the end of the show?" I'm like, "They don't have to. They they've been doing it the whole time, right? Object theory." Now, I have a new one. Object theory.
They don't have to prove it. We've seen it. All they have to do that this is like this is the beauty of having this set up the entire time. And this is why this show will truly literally be like candy. It'll be like candy for people that don't reject it. There will be people that like they show that like Kofmo is the painting and Kofmo is Queenie and Kofmo is rivet and and Zubel is Queenie and whatever they do, right?
And they're going to do it and people are going to be like that is so dumb.
That is so dumb. They've never said they've never they didn't show any of that. They didn't show any of that gh this show. There will be people like that unfortunately.
But you will see it and go, "No way.
No way. It was true."
And and like you don't have to be convinced of anything else other than them just showing it, right? Like you see that it's just there and and then you'll you'll go back and you'll find a million more things. And I think this fandom, people are like again, somebody asked at the beginning of the stream, Danny, uh, what are you going to what are you going to do after the show is done? And I'm like, I'm going to make this. I'm going to make this. We're going to be talking about this finally.
Finally. Finally. Uh, finally. Look at all this. No one's looking at Kane.
What's going on with Kane? What are we seeing with Kane?
Odd Longhorn. Were all the eyes looking at Jax in the poster with Ragatha during the intermission song? All the eyes are looking away from Kane. That is that is now we're talking about so many things.
Whoops. There's a lot. It's a really good question. Really good question, my friend. Really good question. There's a lot of things in there. All right. All right. Pack. Listen. I think we have been doing this for a little while. And so there are six columns and Jax is sitting on one.
Yeah. Yeah. IP, you see it now.
IP, there there's more fodder for your theory. There's more fodder for your theory. Two teapotss, one yellow, one blue.
Six pillars.
Jack is one of the objects on the pillar. Interesting. Interesting.
The small purple one. Yeah, this one.
One, two, three, four, five, six. Kinger is afraid of the blue one, it seems, or like shocked by the blue one. There's a bunch of stars out here in the abstractions.
All the abstractions in the stars. All of the stars in the bubbles.
It's all there for you, IP. It's all there. Okay.
He's an object. Who is Jax? Yeah, he is.
Freak. Jax. This freak. Of course, he's an object. He's mine. It's my object.
You little freak. You little freak.
Can we check the objects of the pillars to see what Jax's pillar corresponds to?
That's an interesting thought. um like in the glink queen or like not not the glink I mean that is I think it is the glink the glink queen's office which is actually Kane's office which we've already Kane is watching and Queenie is watching you know um were you talking about episode seven Kane's office okay that's going to be it's going to be a lot you you really hope Kane will be back. I really I think he will. I again I think that thing that poster we just saw with Kane. I think I think we I think Bubble will be back for sure.
Bubble I know will be back because Bubble is a bubble boy virus. I am completely convinced of that now due to different merch items that I've seen and the commercial where they're talking about popup popup popup popup popup.
Commercials aren't canon. Commercials aren't canon. I know Goose Works. I know. Shh.
The adults are trying to speak. Okay, goose works. Shh. The adults are trying to speak about pop-ups. Okay.
And so when the bubble boy virus creates popups because it's a virus and it died and now will come back. We have not seen this many bubbles in the show. We just haven't. We've never We haven't seen this many bubbles and they're coming through the void.
This is episode nine. This is This is episode 9 material. Okay.
And when Kane comes back, he's going to come back in a terrifyingly realistic form. I'm telling you right now, he's going to come back and his he's gonna his his mouth his jaw is or his it's going to look like a real mouth.
And he's going to look like Omega Flowey. If you have ever played Undertale, that's what it's going to look like.
And it's going to be terrifying.
Who's the seventh? Man, who's the seventh? Who's the seventh? I think it might It might be Kane. Kane. We don't need a new seventh. We've got a seventh.
Kane might not be an AI.
Or he is an AI and everybody else is an AI. Or he is a human and everybody else is a human. We don't need a new seventh.
We've got Kane.
Um, yo, we got Wooy Woo back.
The stars being all the eyes of the big monster. Yeah, Woody Woo. Uh, yeah, your friend uh our friend IP here has got some some interesting things to say about the stars that I won't uh won't spoil here. Um, all right.
We need to come up with some great fake information about the final episode to avoid spoilers. Yeah, you want to you want to come up with some fake information. Some fake information that nobody would believe about the spoilers.
Object theory. They're all objects in this world in different timelines.
They're all crossing. They're all objects. Kofmo is the painting and the paintings are Queenie and the plants are rivet. They're all objects.
This is fake information, chat.
This is fake information, pack. They're all objects. And Kinger is the lamp post and Jax is the lamp post and the moths because Kinger is drawing them into the circus.
Crazy theories like that, you know.
Nothing that's going to be real, you know. We gota we got to make up fake information, right? Right, Beck? Got to make up fake fake information.
Hyperrealistic Danny appears in episode 9. Yeah, they actually You know what?
I'm going to break I'm going to break my NDA for this. They literally said, "Danny, can we get a picture of your mouth?" Like they they asked to like they just like cut off the skin for a little bit. And then can I talk this?
Never. This sounds too That's maybe too much. Um that was a joke. It was a joke.
Pack pack.
Um, so anyway, yeah, you want you want fake you want fake theories to throw around so that people don't get spoiled. Like there you go. There you go. It's the fake one that is probably real. Okay, fake info. Jack's discovered Veggie Tales causing everyone and everything to get revived and turn back to normal.
Abrupt happy ending. And the rest of the 55 minutes are long ending credits.
I can't get dance.
Can't stop. I can't I can't sing that high. Can't stop the feeling.
Keep dance dance. Stop the feeling.
55 minutes.
55 minutes of the characters dancing interrupted randomly by Zubil saying the f-word.
That's the That's the final final episode.
All right, Pack. Are we even Can we even go back to to Jack's at this point? Should we just start? We Look, Pack, we're going to We're going to do a little break. Okay.
Can we do a little break and then we go back into this or should we just Should we just Should we just call it, you know? Should we just call it?
Real extraordinary fish stickick.
What's your question?
Intermission time. We need We We need I should have that be I should just have it playing intermission time. No, that's like That might be too much. I don't think so. I don't think Glitch cares.
They let us do anything.
Jax is two people, Jack and Jax, but they call him Jax for simplicity.
Intermission time loop.
If they turned into objects when they abstracted, what are the abstracted monsters?
I love this because you're asking me this question as if I didn't think about this for the first time live with you. You're like, "Dude, like I don't know. I don't know. I don't even know if this is real." This was somebody else's theory. This was like Bred Egg's theory or somebody somebody was like, "Yo, what if Ribbit is the plant?" And I was like, I mean, I established that like they might be objects and that there might be a camera. And then somehow we got to like Ribbit is like actually Jax is embarrassed and looking at the plants who is the audience because of Ribbit.
And then we were like, whoa, wait then maybe what if Ribbit's the plant. And then somebody was like, whoa, wait, what about the paintings? Then they're Kofmo.
And then we were like, whoa, what the the the trailer or the the the thing.
Now it's like Kofmo is the painting and Kofmo Kinger loves Queenie and somehow he's by the painting and the the butterflies and so Queenie is Kofmo like and now we're like now all of a sudden we're like well what if they turn if they turn into objects what what are the abstracted monsters?
I don't know. I don't know. But it's a good question. It's a good question. But I mean the thing is is like we've established that if they really are objects then that means multiple of them can exist in the same world because we thought that they might be the glinks as well.
And that's where like I think about the tweet that Goose made where she said something like like you guys are going to see just how much I messed with your concept of time the entire show. This kind of thing would be just like a huge like oh just like brain hurty, you know what I mean? Like like all of a sudden now we have to exist in this world where the characters are existing in multiple forms at any given time in abstracted form, in glowing form, in object form, in character form. But it's like really cool, right? It's like a really interesting thought. And again, it's not like we're like we don't even know if this theory is real. We're talking about it like it is because we've seen too many connections to consider them coincidences because we saw the plants and then we saw the carnivorous plants and then we saw the right there's too many things to make connections and of all of the millions of things that I theorize about I have never seen these things that we look through today right so it's like that just means you know that there's like so many more out there. There's so many more out there.
It's just code. Yeah. I mean, if we really want to talk about abstractions, we can sometime. Maybe not tonight, but like we could do a one because I'm a I'm a programmer, right? Um I was thinking about this. I haven't taken like the concepts of programming very seriously in this show. mostly because, you know, like if you're a um if this is any other show and you're a lawyer and you're watching, you know, uh some law show, if you like try to take it seriously, you'd be like, "Okay, this is annoying, right?" And so I didn't I haven't taken it seriously because uh I didn't I didn't want to have to like put that on goose works to be like oh well you don't know the perfect programming concepts. But I mean so far everything else so far everything else is uh just lined up so well. the terminal is um you know very it's like they they clearly changed some things in the terminal in order to um in order to like tell a story, right?
And so it's not perfect, but it's like the parts that they change are understandable. And so the concepts, there's plenty of concepts in the show around programming specifically that I haven't thought too deeply about. And the other day I finally thought about abstraction for the first time.
uh um more seriously because abstraction is a very common programming concept. I literally said abstraction in my job today at my job today. I literally said, "Hey, I think we should abstract this because it's just it's that common. It's it's just a normal word. We use it all the time." And it has a very specific meaning that if this show is very intentional, like could actually explain a lot about what abstraction is.
And there's a lot of stuff. Uh there's a lot of them. There's a lot of programming concepts. Um what are some other ones I can think of?
My mind went blank. My mind went blank.
But there are a lot of them.
The Marble Fox. You've said the theory five times.
I already uh I already I already answered your previous one.
Isn't that what got us here in the first place? What if Kane was infected by a virus and that's why they replaced him and the virus ended up taking over both AIS and Bubble is a bubble boy virus that Kane tried to separate from himself.
Maybe maybe it's not a bad theory. It's a pretty good theory. It's a very interesting theory.
But then where is Kane? That's the thing is like do we only know the virus and there is no real Kane? Is Kane gummyig goo? I've I've thought for a little while that Kane might be gummy goo because of this like Azriel uh like Undertale thing that I've been thinking a lot about. And I'm like, "Oh, well that's like Gummy is like the Azreel colors from Undertale." And if Azriel is like part bad and part good or like depending on, you know, spoilers, blah blah blah, whatever, then uh yeah. Could be. Uh, goodbye, Bagel. Goodbye, Bagel.
All right. All right, peeps.
Let's do a little Let's do a little break. Okay. We're going to do an intermission time for a little bit so I can uh just We're going to reset. anybody that's still here after, we're going to go back into the Jack's the Jack's stuff for a little bit and maybe try to blaze through some of it and not get distracted because uh I mean we I like I said this this session has been whatever we want it to be, you know, object theory, baby.
Object theory. All right.
Um yeah, you know what? Before we go, intercom comrade.
Intercomrade. Tell me tell me tell me the theory you saw before we do that.
Let's hear it.
We got There's this part of me There's this part of me that wants to stop the stream right now just so that marble the marble fox will go to bed.
Emma Emma, are you the Emma?
Are you the Emma from from Discord?
Wait, how long have you been here?
I just noticed.
Well, if you are, Emma, we were talking about you earlier cuz this whole plant thing is because of you.
Okay. Has uh inner comrade commented yet? Oh, the same month and year the circus Whoa. Okay. Whoa.
The same month and year the circus was created, Mars was being photographed. Maybe the cornball is Mars.
You North Packers.
You Packers. Wait, that that sounded like a slur. I didn't like that.
No, didn't like that.
You and your insane theories. Okay.
You and your insane theories.
You want to see something?
You want to see something? You just joined 15 minutes ago. You slept for 12 hours. Yeah. I mean, we just like literally went through an entire brand new theory that nobody has ever talked about before.
Um, that some that like the pack is now convinced is real.
That uh is like just bonkers. And it all started because of the plants. Because of you. Now we think that Ribbit is the plants. That's where we're at. We think Ribbit is the plants.
because we believe that that Jax would be embarrassed looking at the plants because of Ribbit. And we saw that Ribbit is uh and we saw that the plants the AR many arms of Ribbit looked like uh this plant that is a carnivorous plant called the sun something the marble fox knows. All right. Uh inner inner comrade, I'm sorry. I I called you insane and then I left you hanging. I was actually saying you're insane. Like people call me insane, but that like you are you are very sane. Like because look, I just want to show you one image that I think is really interesting. Uh bubble bubble realistic teeth. Just find that because this where is the original post to this uh Twitter glitch?
Uh how what can we do like bubble new rendering? I think it's they say something like we're doing a new rendering. Look look at this picture.
We're doing a new rendering for bubble.
You're saying that planets are involved?
Maybe Jax is on Saturn.
What What's the planet behind Ragatha?
The Hubble Space Telescope was the one photographing Mars, just like Drax was drifting to the cornball.
Interesting.
Yeah. Yeah. Maybe. Yeah. Yeah.
I don't know, man. Sometimes sometimes I think of things and I'm like, this is too insane even for me.
But I'm like, the more I see, the more I'm like, you know what? I think I think this is intentional. I think this is intentional. I know it. Anytime anybody says something that makes even a mild amount of sense to me, I'm like, you know what?
Yeah, that could be. It could be.
All right.
Where's Kinger? Kinger's right there.
What do you mean? King's literally right here.
The one with the teeth. What?
Pack. I got back. Back.
Uh yeah. Where's Zubil? Well, Zubil is gone at this point in this in the episode. Um unfortunately, but they'll be back. Don't worry, they'll be back.
Um what's the lore behind my hair? Uh step one, have a Latina Madre.
Madita.
Step two, uh, be lucky that the Latina Madre is very pretty and people always say, "She looks like my sister." Literally, they said that like last week when I shared a picture in my Discord. Step three, question mark, question mark, question mark. Step four, profit.
That's that's the the lore. That's the secret. You just have to be lucky.
And if you're not lucky then well maybe you'll be a glink in the next life or maybe you will be a plant. You know we have many circuses to go through. All of us exist in this circus in one form. But what if we are all the same? You know, what if you are me and I'm you and we are Queenie and Queenie is Ribbit or Kofmo because Ribbit Zubel Zubel the vessel. What if they're all vessels?
What if we're a vessel?
Just saying the marble fox, you can be a carnivorous plant.
In fact, you probably are. That's probably like whenever you go and you see that plant, it's probably you looking at yourself in a different life, in a different world, in a different time because you are the plant.
What's interesting is that that ideology is not uh actually that crazy like in the real world as a concept, but then you have to get into illicit substances that are akin to uh the the thing that Jax was doing, abstraction, you know, flying through colorful spaces.
Just saying the Marble Fox, you can hear that one when you've uh when you've uh when you're grown. Okay, we don't have to talk about that one now.
Um this stream only has two likes. What are your thoughts on that? I don't care. I'm not doing it for the likes. I'm doing it for you. I'm doing it for you.
Stream is 65. Okay. Well, now I'm upset because it could have 57.
All right. Okay, Pack, we're gonna do a little break now and I will see you in a few minutes.
pack.
I was waiting for that timer. I was watching it. I was watching the timer.
It's supposed to say at the end of it, it's supposed to say, "Can I get A THAT'S WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO SAY."
That's what I was waiting for so that I could have all the the the aoo in the chat.
Aoo.
Can I get an AO? Let's go. Pack.
There we go.
How late is it for me? It is currently 9:42 p.m. How late is it for you? Excuse me.
Thank you, PA. Thank you, PA. Is it kind of fun that I call you pack and not chat? I feel like it's kind of fun, huh? It's kind of like our own thing. We got our own little secret.
10 10:45 10. Yo, this person's living in a liinal space.
Danny, I slept. Are you proud of me?
Dumb marble fox. All right, we're gonna stop the stream for the Marble Fox.
The Marble Fox.
My The VOD will still be here. Okay, the VOD will still be here. 5:45 a.m. where Emma Ross is. 5:00 a.m. where Craig is, but I already slept. All right. Early bird. The early bird gets the What? What's a good What's a good one here? The early bird gets the rivet plant. I don't know.
10:43 p.m.
It's not too late.
Emma Ross is a Brit like you. Let's go.
Early bird gets the Danny.
All right. All right, pack. All right, let's get back into it. I I think this last part of this won't be that as long as I I could like literally go forever.
This is where I'm like, what you need to know, Pac, is that in in the real world, in the real world, in this circus, I'm starting to think, you know what?
when Kinger said this circus in episode three where he's like the you know everything sometimes it feels like it doesn't matter this circus that's like the real world cuz what if the point is that like everything is just a circus everything is just an orb and so he's saying that like every single universe no matter where you are it feels like it doesn't matter including ours, which is just one circus, one orb, because sometimes we are the abstracted.
Sometimes we are the audience.
Really makes you think, huh?
Speaking of objects, wait, can I show you one object before we start on the Jacks thing again?
I made a YouTube post about this, so you'll look in my post and you'll see it now. Now that object theory is like that was your theory. I didn't make it.
Don't look at me. Not my theory. That was yours. Okay? You can't call me crazy when I talk about object theory because you made it. You're the crazy one.
But I kind of want to show you one thing. Now we're going to go. Okay.
Watch. Now that you know about object theory, watch this. Watch this. Watch this.
Oh. Oh, it's so good.
>> Oh, now you're all part of the crazy.
Now you're all part of the insanity.
Welcome to the show, friends, because you probably saw this post that I made on you. First off, the lamp. Nay. Hi, Nay. Of course, I know you. Nay is bae. Everybody, Nay is Bae. Everybody say hello Nay. Nay, you are Bae. We love you, Nay. We love Nay around here. Nay is part of um Nay has probably never seen the Amazing Digital Circus, but Nay should watch the Amazing Digital Circus. You should watch The Amazing Digital Circus with Jordanny because it speaks so eloquently about the human condition, about people, about life, about mental health, and about how we are in eight episodes. There's only eight episodes, there's going to be one more. It speaks so beautifully about all of those things. That is what sucked me in and kept me in. Episode one will make you feel uncomfortable. kind of it's kind of wacky. It's really weird.
Episode two, I personally really appreciated episode two. A lot of people kind of dismiss episode two. I thought it was really really good. I mean, every episode is really good, but we're talking about first watch, right? First watch, you're just so confused. Okay, episode two is um like the the main theme, the main themes there. That is when the very very very end of that episode is when I thought, you know what, is something special going to happen in this show because it did something I didn't expect. The very end of that episode, um, I'm going to speak vaguely, but it's the hands, the hands, the hands grabbing you. Everybody else knows what I'm saying. Nay, you don't know what I'm saying. That that scene when you see hands reaching out. Okay, that scene I was like, you know what?
Is this show going to be special? That's when I thought Episode three, that's where everybody agrees. It's like, that's where everybody agrees.
That's the goat. That's where it just really just you see it for the beautiful thing that it is. You see it for the incredible, complex, unique show that it is. Everybody agrees, right? Episode three, that's where we all agree.
And then from there, you're golden. From there, you're like, "Yeah, I'm going to watch it." Episode 4 a little bit slower but uh but but really good in its own way. What's interesting is that I think the majority of the community would agree that it's it's just a lot slower than ep episode 4 is but uh there's certain people that really connect to it. My um Goose Works, the creator of the show, connects to that that episode deeply. My mother, my mother connects to it very deeply. And she thought that the show, my mother, she thought the show was just like this random silly dumb show and she watched it because um she loves me and she wanted to watch my content and so she watched um she watched the show and when she came over she said uh she said, "I didn't really like the show. I thought it was really weird." right?
She's like what, like 50 something, 60?
Like she's she's like she's getting there older, right? And I was like, "Okay, that makes sense. That's fine." I was like, "Did you notice all of these things though?" Like, "Did you think about gangle?" Um because uh say, I'm trying to think. I don't think my let's just say that that she has a mental health condition that is tied to gangle.
And I said, "Mom, gangal is like this.
She feels this way. Did you notice all of that?" And she was like, "No, I didn't. I didn't notice all of that."
And so she sat on my couch and I gave her my Gengal plush and I said, "Mom, you're like Gengal."
And and we love Gengal.
And um and we watched episode 4 and I explained all of the different ways that Gengal embodies bipolar disorder and talked about the masks and I talked about the you know the happy and the sad and I talked about the truck and that feeling and She uh yeah and we had a really beautiful moment together and she was like I didn't think about any of that and um and now she loves Gangle.
Now she thinks about Gengal and she loves Gangle and she's like, "Yeah, you know what? I do feel like that."
And it was um it was a really beautiful moment. And so so I know episode 4 is a lot slower for a lot of people and very different, but Goose Works personally relates to it in a lot of different ways.
And when I saw it, I thought I think about my mom. When I think about Gango, I think about my mom.
And so, um, yeah.
Okay.
I'm an emotional person, guys. Pack pack. I'm an emotional person.
Um, let's see. But anyway, nay, welcome. You should watch it. You should watch it.
It's okay. I know it's okay. I don't mind being emotional. I think it's okay to show emotions. I think it's good to show emotions. I think it's good to feel. And uh and I like that. Um I will say I'm like I'm like kind of afraid at this point to go back and watch my episode 8 reaction because I know I was very emotional during it. And there's this part of like it feels every time I think about clicking on it, I'm like, "Oh, that's embarrassing." Because I knew it was embarrassing to post, but uh but I did it because I felt like it was important. So I I'll go back and watch it at some point because at the time I knew a lot of people felt that way. I knew a lot of people felt very emotional about it.
Even if other people Even if other people watched that and said, "Dude, why are you like faking?" Like, I'm not faking, dude. I told you. I told you early on that I'm an emotional person, and if you don't like that, you can go watch another reactor.
I warned you.
That's not my fault. You kept watching, okay? I put a content warning before I cried ugly tears. is I put a literal content warning if you didn't heed it. That's not my fault.
Okay. I don't know.
That's not my fault. So anyway, um okay pack let's go through let's go through um welcome nay. You should watch the amazing digital circus. We are talking about some crazy things that if you stay, welcome. You can you're welcome to stay. None of this will make sense to you. It's okay because none of it makes sense to anybody in the community currently either. Which is why the Northpack is trying to change that.
Okay, Northpack, we're here. We're we're we're seeing this, right? We're in this together. We're in this together. This isn't my theory. This is our theory.
We've been building this theory forever together.
Okay. What does Jax know?
Ordinary fish stickick.
You have a question.
Let's hear the question. We'll entertain it if it's quick because I I want to get it back into this.
Are you against the South Pack? Okay.
Okay. All right. We got a jokester. We got a jokester. I have no enemies. Okay.
I have no enemies.
Ordinary fish stickick. Okay. And if you no Vinland Saga, then you have no enemies either.
Go watch Vinland Saga. That's the goat.
Amazing Digital Circus, the GOAT. Attack on Titan, the goat. Vinland Saga, the goat. Just saying.
Not even Ma. No, I mean like not even Ma, dude. Not even Ma. Don't tell him I said this. First off, he's not the Danny. Okay, he's not the Danny. He never has been. He never will be. I don't care. It's not This isn't some kind of popularity contest, Danny Mada.
There's You get to go to Disneyland with Jorge. So what? It's not a popularity contest. It never was. Go to Disneyland with Jorge. I don't care. The reason why I'm the Danny is because I made content that he appreciated and he liked.
You've done that, too. So, maybe you're the Danny a little bit. But I had made it. You were over there like, "Oh, I haven't made Jorge content in a year. I haven't done this in a year. Why is he calling me out?" He wasn't. He was calling me out because I was making content every day for the last four months before he made that video.
Just saying. Just saying.
Sorry, you got to go to Disneyland with Jorge. It's not a popularity contest. It never was. That was never the point. The point was that when I make content, I make people think more deeply about the media that they're consuming.
I wasn't even doing I was I'm not going to do the same. All right, it's over.
I'm not gonna do the same one. Not going to do the same rant, but now I'm bigger.
I don't care. He's never going to see it anyway.
Little popularity contest. Oh. Oh, I'm a Danny Maf fan. I didn't know about you before Jorge said, "I love Danny."
Therefore, you couldn't have been the Danny.
Anybody that was consuming actual Epic content knew that it was for me.
So, sorry. You're a fake fan. You're a Danny Ma fan. You're not an Epic fan.
You're a Danny Ma fan. That doesn't mean you're not an Epic fan. You must like Epic, but you're there for Danny Ma, not for Epic.
SORRY.
SORRY, IT'S NOT A popularity contest.
Just because you didn't know who I am, doesn't mean that Jorge Ria Erens, the creator of Epic, didn't know who I was.
It's not my fault you didn't know who I am. I was making Epic content every day for the last four months of my life, spending I spent 15 hours on a one minute long video that got 20,000 views.
I didn't care because it was a learning OPPORTUNITY AND I THOUGHT it was cool.
Where's your precious Danny Mada pouring his heart and soul out for the the amazing digital circus for Epic?
Why is Danny crashing out?
How do I I wish I could Jorge.
That's like That's my cane moment.
He won't go TO DISNEYLAND. I WON'T LET HIM.
SO, uh yeah. Hey. Hi. Hi, everyone.
Everyone's like watching my short form video and being like, "Oh, I want to learn about Jacks." And they're like, "Oh, cool, cool, cool."
And and then they come in and I'm like crashing out on Jorge River.
It's not even Danny M's fault. Okay.
He's a little squirrel. He just wants a nut. He just wants a nut.
Give him his nut.
He got his nut. He got to see Jorge.
Give him his nut.
Now go. Shoo. It's not a popularity contest, brother. Some of us are making real content. Some of us are trying to teach people. Some of us are trying to deepen.
There's no point.
Oh, Breick. Bye. Bye, Bredic. See, we got real. We got real Packers. Why do I keep saying that? Why does it sound like a slur? I don't like saying that. I got to think we got to think of a new I got to think of a new a new term to call you. Okay, I'll be thinking about that cuz I don't no background. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. That's not happening. It's not happening.
Northerners, maybe. No. It's too It's too long. Back. No. Please. No, dude.
No. We're not doing that. We're not doing that. No. Okay.
All right. Let's go. Let's go back to theorizing.
Okay. What is Jack's know? That's where we're at.
I mean, I I used to call I could say I could say this. I call him uh kittens and McChickens because I thought it was funny. I thought it was cute. That's what we have in the Discord server. We call them kittens and McChickens.
What is up, Northpack? What is up kittens and McChickens? I don't know. I kind of kind of pulled back from that mostly because I don't know. I like it.
I think it's funny. But I I think being like kind of an all ages channel, I actually try really hard not to swear on this kind of stuff. I would swear all the time. I would I would love to swear.
But uh what's interesting is that having come from a religious background, I grew up religious where I didn't swear for the first like 30 years of my life. I'm 34. I didn't swear for the first like 28 years of my life. I never swore, not even once. I hated it.
And uh and so I can very easily kind of switch back and forth between swearing and not swearing. And so it like it's actually very easy for me to be a family-friendly channel because even though I would rather say a swear word now, uh I think about like how there's a a a younger audience that watches and if you want to watch and and you want to watch around your parents or something, right? And you like want to have a channel that you can watch and not feel embarrassed to watch around your parents. That's kind of why I do it. That's kind of why I don't swear. Thought about making two channels. This is like so random random tangent.
I've thought about making uh thought about making two channels.
One that is like a normal I swear I say whatever I want channel and one that is like a like a uh non-swearing channel. And I thought about this when I started reacting. So when I would react, I would make a joke and I would swear and then I would make the same joke and I wouldn't swear. And I thought that was like really interesting because then I could like post it in like two separate channels and then people that wanted to like the non-swear version could watch it and the people that wanted the swear version could just watch that.
I thought it was interesting. Anyway, I'll think about it. Is the circus too dark for that theory to work?
The swear theory is this. I don't know.
I haven't been looking at at the chat, so maybe uh do we know the species of plants? Okay, we're not going back to the plants. How did the plants get back in here? How did the plants nor titties?
You want to be the nor titties?
Now we're after hours. Okay, Marble Fox, go to bed. Go to bed, Marble Fox. This is for after hours northern North Pac shenanigans.
All right, let's go back to the theory.
All right, Pack.
What does Jax know? Let's do a little recap.
We believe currently or we thought before we did all the plant stuff that we believe that Jax is at 40% of knowledge given that Jax knows about conjuring from the bazooka. Jax was the only one whose head is stabilized in episode two. Jax is the only one who breaks the fourth wall. Jax has keys to everyone's room. And we thought it was a little weird that glowins don't stick to him. We don't really knows what it mean.
We don't really know if that means anything. We didn't really uh hypoten hypotenuse on that. hypothesize on that very much, but but we saw that it was weird. And then as we were going deeper, we thought, you know what, Jax is is the only one who breaks the fourth wall. Jax seems to know where the camera is, and if Kane's watching, Jax knows. But then we thought, you know what, are the camera the plants? And then we went off the rails and went into a completely different theory that we're not going to talk about right now.
But from this point, let us talk about what else Jax knows. Do we still think he's at 40% given given what we just discussed? Especially with all the plant stuff and the fact that he knows that cameras are in the plants or that there are plants that are cameras or that maybe they're rivet.
He knows that there's somebody watching.
Is that somebody still at like 40%. kind of feels like a little more than 40 at that point, right? Like, does Ker even know that? Like, let's just be real.
Does Ker know that?
We don't really know if Kinger knows that.
We'll put Jack's at a cool 57. I think at this point, the thing is like at this point, I'm like, you know what? He knows way too much. Way too much. And in fact, the next thing I'm going to show you was one of the premises behind all of this stuff, all of this theory. I had this theory that Jax was the creator of The Amazing Digital Circus. It was like my first theory I ever made. And I literally tweeted, literally, look, let's go find this. Uh, let's see if I can sign in as myself on Twitter.
Literally, my first tweet, I think, was like me telling Goose Works that she was gonna know who I was. Oh, I'm sure she knows. I'm sure she knows. She's scared of me. She can't stand me.
She wants me to abstract. I'm revealing all of her secrets.
Going to go to my fa literally like my first one.
Okay, there's no way. There's too many.
There's too many. I have literally just been like posting anything I wanted. All of my thoughts.
The window reflections. Ooh, that is such a good one. That is such a good one. And I'm going to say right now, Elzippo, if you really want to think about the window reflections, please do. Please do.
And think about the fact that there are actually different shapes of reflections.
Keep that in your mind as you're looking. Literally, my first tweet of this account. Hey, Goose Works. I'm coming for you. Positive, loving, exciting.
I thought I was like I was actually afraid she would thinking that I was like this weird stalker.
So, that's how you put that. I was like, I don't know. I don't want to I don't want to I don't want to make her feel awkward.
That's probably why I added this.
Uh but then I was like I still felt like, oh no, she's going to think I'm crazy.
Also, to be clear, I mean, you will know my name soon enough. Trust me. Not like I'm physically come. Okay. I'm just making sure we're on the same p. Your safety is important to me and I think you're really smart and cool and funny.
Okay. I love you. Bye. That's literally the first tweet on this account. You think she knows? She knows. Northpack.
She knows the Danny War. Oh my. Dude, don't talk.
Don't get me talking about this traitor.
That's how Danny acts in person, too. I do. I do. I really do. I act the same way. Thing is, uh, in person, I actually have a lot more, what's the word?
I'm more pensive. I'm more I think and listen more. And I met some people from the Epic community and they were like, "Danny, are you okay?" I'm like, "Yeah, I'm just listening. I listen."
Um, and uh, and then we got Bubble.
When's the meet up? Whenever you want, Nay, let's meet up.
I love Nay so much.
All right, let's go back here. Okay. I don't know what point I was trying to make with that. Um, all right. Pack.
Oh, I just realized I don't even have my cool background music.
The episode 3 thumbnail is literally rivet. No, don't. T80C3, dude.
It's literally ribbit.
You're right. It's lit.
Those arms are ribbit.
pack the arms that drag them into hell.
Ribbit, can I zoom in? I Yeah, I like I don't know how to TDC, but I wonder if I can. Uh, let's do like thumbnail. Can I do thumbnail and then go to like images? Look at this pack.
Uh, copy image address. This is what I'm saying. Pack. Okay. That is not a large im. Don't.
That was supposed to be large.
Press large. That's not large. Pack.
It's literally rivet.
Now you are all making crazier theories than me. Congrats.
Everyone that you ever talk to will tell you that you're insane. Congrats.
Welcome to the Northpack. You're now all certifiably insane.
Because you're right.
You're right. That is Rivet. That looks like Rivet. I never thought that before.
I didn't make this.
There's a lot of implications.
So, what does that make the hell?
Imagine Imagine Ribbit is this multi-handed creature that pulls people into hell.
First off, we need to keep talking about that poster, the Ragata post, the T8C movie.
What did I say about our little our friend uh Ragatha here? I'm just just saying Ribbit.
Ribbit, you leave her alone. Ribbit, leave her alone. You leave her out of this. That's my baby girl. That's my baby girl.
Dad hand from the Ocarina of Time.
Definitely.
You leave her out of this. Okay, first off, you leave her out of your twisted ribbit hand plans. Okay, don't drag her to hell. I don't want her to be evil. I think she might be evil in this next episode, but I think she's going to be controlled. Okay, but they might not show it. They might not show it in the show. You have to like look like we're doing right now in order to see it. THAT'S WHAT I GOOSE WORKS.
They're going to make everyone evil.
Goose Works is literally going to destroy the reputation of every single character in the show in episode 9. I know it. She's going to destroy Kinger's reputation. She's going to destroy Ragatha's reputation. She's going to destroy Jax's reputation even for the Jax defenders.
Pomi is going to choose Jax over Ribbit, which destroys her reputation. Sorry, over Ribbit is gonna choose Pomi is gonna choose Jax over Ragatha.
Pomi is gonna choose Jax over Ragatha, which will destroy her reputation for the Pomni lovers. Okay, what what else we got? Gangal. Gangal is sadistic. More sadistic than we want to believe, but only because she is so abused and she has the capability to be sadistic.
Okay, she's not sadistic. She has the ability to be sadistic and she's going to make her goose works hates all of us. She She never liked any of us. Okay.
Zubil Zubil is set up as one of the most honest character. Hold on.
Not that this matters. Zubel is set up as one of the most honest characters in the entire show. And I believe they are hiding one of the deepest secrets. They have more knowledge about what is happening than they want to lead on and their relationship to Abel and their relationship to things happening in the circus and abstraction.
Maybe maybe you notice that the ribbit hands that come out to reach out to Jack come out of a triangle.
Kind of looks like Zubel's head to me.
Kane was the beginning. Kane was the beginning.
Kane was just the start. Kane was the warning sign. I really think that episode 9 is going to like destroy everyone's concept of every character in multiple ways.
The first way will be to just force everyone to be the worst version of themselves and then we'll show I think somehow show that everybody is like the same person like they are all you know how we were talking about the object theory earlier and how Kofmo is Queenie as Jax is Kinger is that there's only going to be like two or three of them that are actually They're going to all converge into one like like they all do.
Zubel will be the one.
Zubel is the vessel, the final vessel of the circus. Although I've realized there are many vessels. Kane is a vessel. Ker is a vessel. Jax is probably a vessel.
They're all probably vessels.
Convergence theory for sure.
Anyway, uh yeah, so I think that's gonna happen.
But here's what's really interesting is because I think there will be multiple endings.
I think there's goose works will show us.
I don't know if the like super bad everybody giving into their bad their worst parts of themselves will happen in the theater version or if that will be this kind of like genocide version where everybody leans into the worst parts of themselves.
I think there's going to be multiple endings and you know what pack the reason why I'm starting to stream more is because I think it will depend to find those endings. I think there will likely be some code or cipher or something that will lead to some code URL, some string that then we have to decipher that then will lead to some like unlisted YouTube video and that will be like the true ending. Maybe there will be multiple endings. Maybe there will be one ending in the theater and then one ending in episode or on April 19th or sorry April.
Yeah, it's April, huh? I think there will be one ending in the theater potentially a different ending on April 19th which will then get people like me and you all of you to June 19th sorry April May June. Oh yeah, I don't I don't know why that was so hard for me.
That there will be another ending on June 19th possibly. And if there is, that will force everyone into be like, oh, there were two endings. And then it will activate. People like us who will be like, wait, if there's two, then there's three. And if there's three, then there's four. And if there's four, then there's three, then there's one.
I don't know. I don't know. Pack.
Um, I think it will happen. I I honestly think it might happen because I think I've seen too many parallels from Undertale. I've seen too many parallels from Stanley Parable. More people are talking about Stanley Parable. Don't hug me, I'm scared. Like it's going to be cyclical. It's all going to feed into each other and that's all going to fuel the like clues. But there's a lot of clues we can get from right now. There's a lot of stuff out there, a lot of things we haven't talked about. And that's why I want to stream more because when it happens, I need all of you to be back here helping me decode whatever the hell we just saw.
And it'll probably have to happen. I mean, there'll probably be some decoding before April or before June 19th, but it's going to mostly be after June 19th because we're just not going to have the ability to like go frame by frame. This is like the important part of this show is that it it really does I don't even really blame people for not seeing the truth.
I do a little bit. I don't blame I don't blame people. I blame the people who have bullied everyone into believing that this show is not that deep.
I don't know how the community as a whole was bullied into believing that.
And I think even that is a very interesting social experiment because even from just like the one hour, two hours or three hours that we've been doing this, you have seen how insanely deep the show is, you have created theories that I have never created or thought about. You have had thoughts that I have never thought about before.
And I have had millions of thoughts that you've never had before, which only goes to show like how insanely deep this show is. This show is so deep. Literally every single frame matters. And so when people make fun of you for looking at every single frame, somehow the whole community got bullied into thinking just that nothing mattered and all of these weird coincidences that they thought. Everybody has something about the show that they know. And this is why I love streaming and why I love having a Discord server because I'm just like somebody knows something that I don't know. I'm like I can only see what I see.
And like and and the cool thing is that like every single person is important in this. Every single one. Because you might have seen one random thing and thought, "Wow, that was weird that I've never thought of which is why we made the whole object theory and ribbit is the plant and the plant is actually the California sun blah blah blah."
Whatever. I don't know how we got there.
Kane pixels back rooms. See, I've never seen backrooms. I think there's a lot of backroom stuff that I don't understand because I've never seen it. I don't know it. I know Slender Man, which is what what popped into my head in episode seven when Jax pressed the button. I was like, "This is this is Slender Man. What in the Slender Man is this?" And I think it is. And that goes to my real life literal monster theory, which actually we would eventually get to through this because Jax is afraid of abstraction because abstraction reminds him of podlike things and podlike things are like the literal monster in the real life. And then that goes into mechanical Turk theory where actually the literal monster, they're actually inside the literal monster already and they are actually inside of the circus controlling the consciousness of the monster which is probably in the murder drones universe.
You thought that was crazy.
You might actually be you might actually if I had said those words three hours ago, you might have been like, "Dude, what are you saying?" And now you're like, "You know what?
Maybe we should look into that." You know what I mean?
You know what I mean?
The monsters or or Aurora Borealis or Ribbit. Yeah, I mean it is Ribbit apparently, but like what is Ribbit? Now we don't even know what Ribbit is. Now we're like, "What is Ribbit? Wh Why are we thinking these thoughts? You know what I mean?
Now we're like, "Wait, Ribbit was a cute little frog." And now we're like, "Ribbit is a monster. Ribbit is a monster dragging people down to hell.
How did we get here?
Anyway.
All right, pack. I don't even know how we're going to get back to Jack. What was I going to show you with Jacks? I'm kind of like maybe we should just maybe we should just do this tomorrow at this point.
Oh, let's think. Let's think.
Kane bombing the monster. I don't even What does that mean?
Truck hitting Gangle is a solar storm and Gangle is a landmine.
What is happening? What is happening?
Time for second sleep. Okay. Goodbye, Emma.
Thank you.
The ball on Kane's desk is black and yellow. That is the corn ball. Should we talk about the cornball?
O, see, I'm like, I don't know how much more I have in me tonight. I got to go get Toby. Toby's not here right now. I gotta go get him. I miss him.
Um, okay.
Toby's at daycare. Toby's at Toby care.
Toby goes to Toby care when I'm at work.
And so I came home from work and then came to do this. And I thought, should I go get Toby? But then I thought, nah, I'm going to need to take more breaks because if I have him here, then uh he has to go to the bathroom more often. So I thought I'll just pick him up later tonight.
And so I gota go get him still. Um, okay.
Let's see.
Yeah, I think I'm going to do that.
Let's just maybe end it here because here's what I'm thinking. I have some time tomorrow.
Should we pick it up tomorrow?
We can pick this up tomorrow. Same time.
and uh and let's keep building this theory about what Jax knows. Did anyone come from my my my real my Tik Tok? Like we didn't even talk about it. We didn't even talk about it. Okay, let's talk about one thing. I just I feel bad now because I like told everyone we're going to talk about Jax and then we never talked about Jax.
We'll do one We'll do one more thing.
Where were we going to go here? I was going to show somebody I was going to show everybody something.
Does anybody remember?
Uh, let's see.
Let's see. Let's see. What else does Jax know?
We're going to do at least one more thing here.
There was something that we were going to talk about with Jax and I cannot remember what it was.
talk about the plants.
Jackson Kane.
I mean, that wasn't it, but we can we can talk about Jackson Kane.
Here's the thing.
Let's let's do that. Let's let's start connecting the cornball because that's how we're going to eventually get to like is Jack Scratch. That's how we're going to get there.
Um because we haven't even like gotten close to establishing that.
So there is something strange about Jax and his knowledge of abstraction. That is like the main premise behind that in episode in this exact scene.
What does Jack say in this scene?
>> WHAT A SHAME.
>> SO WHAT'S your take away from all this?
Is it that I'm actually with cool hobbies and not that much different from you beautiful humans?
>> Uh, sure.
>> Wow. We I'm so glad we understand.
>> He's so cute. Okay. Uh, he's dangerous. You're a dangerous little cutie. Okay. So, he does this.
He says, "Uh, what you doing there, J?"
Oh, the first one. We already missed the first one, I guess.
What you doing there, J?
No, he got that. Okay, so it must be before the split.
There's like the scenes before right here.
All right. Okay. So, Jax is like, "Oh, okay. So, this is actually an interesting thing right here. Actually, we should we should mention this.
This room has a lot of plants outside and is a golden yellow glow.
We're not talking about plants. Verb does stuff. Okay, we're not going to talk about plants. There's new people in here that came from the short. They don't know about the plants. Okay, they don't know about the plants and they're going to think we're insane. They're going to think we're insane if we talk about the plants. Okay, that's our little secret. Okay, they'll go watch the VOD and they'll catch up.
All right, we're not going to talk about the plants anymore.
Okay, but let's watch this. First off, Abel tells Jack something. Okay, there's kind of like we need to start establishing like Ael a little bit here.
Abel, uh, TADC because Abel is a really interesting character that I actually think is very relevant to this because if I'm being honest, I don't know that Jax is Scratch. If you if you want my true opinion on this, I don't necessarily know that Jack's a scratch, but I think Abel might be, but I think Abel might be.
And there's kind of a knowledge gap between Jax and Abel even because Abel knows a little bit too much about the way that Cain works. Abel knows a lot about how Kane works. Okay.
Right. Do we agree that like Abel knows more than Jax? No matter where we put Jax, Abel seems to know the more Abel appears to know more than Jax. And this scene right here, the reason why I brought this up is like part of why I think that because Abel said, "Hey, Jax, when Kane gets so excited, he will literally blue screen to death and you'll be able to reach into his mouth and grab him and grab the key just because he's really excited about somebody caring about him." Right?
Jax's eyes here are dilated. His pupils are dial or sorry his pupils are dot pupils. This is like he's like whoa.
He he like thinks this is legit. He's like oh my golly goodness. Jax is like oh Abel was right. He's literally blue screening. You know so this shows me that while Jax is knowledgeable, he like didn't actually know if what Abel was saying was right. This is like him being like, "Oh, whoa." Abel like is telling the truth, right? And he's like, "Okay, I gotta go. I got to go. I got to go grab it."
>> What you doing there, Jax?
>> Have I ever told you how it's my dream to get eaten by you?
>> That's a weird thing to say. And >> Okay, that scene establishes so much. that one singular scene, Jax. And the thing is is like I don't know if anybody's even confused by that.
Have has everyone seen the like the where like abstraction shows that like Kane is eating the cast? Have has everyone seen that or are there some people that haven't? Because I guess that's important.
There's like a short form video that somebody made. I think it's like Mo Mochi Mocha edit I believe their name is that shows that Jack or sorry that Kane that abstraction is like Kane like eating the cast but Danny Kane planned this all. Okay.
Yeah, that's what he said. That's what he said. Um and so you could say Abel is Kane right now. That I don't care. Sure. Cain Cain is Abel right now. I don't believe that's the case. But for the sake of But for the sake of this argument about what Jax knows, Abel still knows more than Jax. Even if Jax even if Abel is Kane, you know. So you can believe that and uh and still understand that Jax knows less than Abel even if Abel is Cain or isn't Kane, right?
So that was an interesting thing. Although although we're actually gonna break that paradigm literally here because now we're gonna introduce Kane into this introduce Kane.
Now see this we're going to get cute Kane. We're going to get little cutie Kane over here. Cutie Kane.
Okay, because now we're introducing Abel and we're introducing Kane and we're going to say that Abel knows more. Okay, and we're going to say that Kane knows an amount. And if we think that Cain is Abel, then we have to say that they are the same. They know the same amount of stuff, right? Okay. Let's talk about Cain and Abel and Jax in this scene specifically.
If Cain is Abel, then Cain knows the same amount as then Cain knows the same amount of things as Abel, right? But this scene establishes a few weird things.
Jack's nose.
What is Jack's no? This isn't like there's not really I guess we can literally just take this image and take this image. Going to put it here.
Jax knows as much as everyone else, but Jax also knows Kane has. Let's scroll. Let's zoom in.
Uh, have I ever told you it's my dream to be eaten by you?
Now, this could be really innocent, right?
Daniel Padilla, love your work, man.
Salvah, gracias, Daniel.
Gracias.
If you stay wild, you stay free.
All right.
I ever told you it's my dream to be eaten by you? Now, you can say you could say that this is just a joke. It's just a joke. And that's why we're creating these connections, right?
Because yeah, it's by itself it's just a joke. It's just a weird little silly little Jack's joke.
But when taken as a part of a whole, right?
When taken, this singular joke as part of Jax knows about conjuring. Jax is the only one whose head is stabilized. Jax is the only one who breaks the fourth wall and he knows where the camera is. And he's pointing at plants and the plants apparently maybe mean that they're rivet. And Jack has keys to everyone's rooms and the glowing stone stick to him.
Have I ever told you it's my dream to be eaten by you?
Now all of a sudden this joke doesn't feel so jokey.
You know what I mean? When does he point to a plant?
No, we're not doing the plants thing. I know. I'm sorry. I know some of you came from my short form video and you have no idea why I'm talking about plants.
You'll have to watch the VOD. Maybe I'll turn it into a video, but we have been we have been doing this for a few hours now. And we have established that anytime Jack breaks the fourth wall, he points at a plant. And you can go check that out for yourself.
Go check it out. It's really interesting.
Um, now when Jack says, "Have I ever told you it's my dream to be eaten by you?
That's why it doesn't feel like a joke because he knows a lot of stuff. So when Jack says something, we cannot we can no longer think of Jax as somebody that knows nothing and he's just making a silly little joke about being eaten. Especially when we have seen Let's Let's look at the Let's find this like real by Mocha edit. Uh Mocha, are they on here?
Mocha edit. Mocha edit. I think I have it. I think I have it saved. We can just look at the It's probably easier to look at it saved. I'm sure I saved it because I've used this in stuff before and I could draw it out, but they they do a good job at at like at drawing it.
Um corn uh mocha. I'm just going to type mocha.
Yeah, here it is. All right, let's look at it.
Why does this not feel like a joke?
Because without any other information, it is just a joke, right? It is just a joke. But we don't have this is this is like the important part I think that people don't consider when they evaluate my theories is that you have to think about the fact that like When I say a singular fact in a theory, I'm not thinking about just that one fact. I'm thinking about like the 50 other things that connect to it. And I can only say one fact in a short form video. But like this is another fact.
Here's another fact. Let's watch this one by Mocha Edit.
>> You can see all of these images that look like Kane.
Hi, I'm not home right now, but if you want to leave a message, >> all these images as he's floating towards the cornball >> look like he's entering the mouth of Cain, right? And that's important because it's actually extremely important. If if we didn't see this, if we didn't know about this right here, then like, yeah, it would literally just be a joke. But the thing is, we see it and Jax makes this joke and Jax is pointing at plants that are cameras, and Jax is um and Jax's like head is not moving properly. The camera seems to be targeted on Jax specifically and Jax has the keys to everybody's rooms.
We start painting a weird picture about the amount of things that Jax knows.
That's why it's not just a sing a simple joke. If if all we had was the joke, it would just be a joke.
But you have to remember that's that's literally why we're charting it out because if not I think we would have even forgotten how many things we already have, right?
So you can see Kane's face in the abstraction gene.
We're going to put this here because here's what's interesting. Here's what's interesting about this.
Who else knows about this?
Who else knows about this?
If if Jax knows about it, I think it's safe to assume that Abel does too because Abel was the one who told Jax stuff and Abel knows more than Jax.
We talked about how like Jax was confused and was like, "Oh, what?" Like Kane is literally blue screening right now and I need to run into his mouth.
Like he was like, "Oh, the plan that Abel said was working."
So if if Jax knows this, oops.
If Jax knows this, then Abel knows this and knows more than Jax. He like knows more than Jax, I think. But let's say he knows this. Oh, wait, wait, wait. I want to connect this one to this one actually.
Okay, Abel knows this. So now then begs the question, are these the same people?
Is this the same person? Was this all set up by Cain?
The thing is if it's set up by Kane then uh then like that means that Kane also knows about this, right?
I should try analyzing the motifs of the amazing digital circus soundtrack. I know I don't have time. I know the thing is, let me tell you something, intercom comrade.
You intercom comrade. I've never seen you and me in the same room.
Intercomrade for the record. Okay, here's the thing.
Goose Works is a musician first, right?
That terrifies me.
It terrifies me because I have seen all of the clues that she has put into every other piece of the media.
There's so many so many I cannot even comprehend them. I can't That's why I can just come on here and yap for hours because I've seen them all and I haven't seen any of them. I think as far as the mountain of information goes, I'm like pretty sure that like I am at like 30% of all of the things that Goose Works put into the show and there's like 70% more and the community is at like 2%.
The North Pack, you're at like five now.
Congrats.
I I could even be wrong. I could be wrong. There might not even be many. I could I could not even be at 30%. My fear, my ultimate fear is that the music itself is way deeper than anything else the show has to offer because she's a musician first.
And because of that, I have decided I'm not even going to try right now. I know it will be relevant after the show.
Danny, what are you going to do after the Amazing Digital Circus is done? I'm gonna be making content about this show for years and years and years to come. I don't know. Like things are people are going to find stuff so many years down the line. I just know it.
I just know it. So, uh, sorry. I can't I can't I can't I can't I have I already have a million other things that I'm thinking about and all I'm trying to do is get through Jack's might be Scratch might not be because we're trying to establish right now that he probably isn't given the fact that Abel knows more and Scratch is a creator and so Jax doesn't appear to be a creator. He appears to be somebody who is knowledgeable about the creators of the circus, which if you want to hear my theory about what Jax is in relationship to Scratch, I've always thought that maybe Jax is Scratch's son and that Scratch is able and that Jax knows about all of the inner workings. And maybe not maybe he's not even his son. Maybe he's not even his son. Maybe he was someone who had some role in the circus, the creation of the circus. and saw some information that he wasn't supposed to see and got dragged down into hell for it and now he's suffering.
That's what I've that's what I've thought. But if we think that Scratch is like the ultimate like person bad dude in the circus, I don't necessarily believe that Jax is that other than the fact that maybe Jax might be a vessel for that. Jax might be his he himself might not be, but he might be a vessel for the bad thing. His his funny cartoon body might be used to with Jack with Scratch's mind to do bad things. I think that's a possibility.
A blood vessel. Yes.
Don't don't Rose who writes.
We're moving on. Okay, let's go back to this really fast. We were establishing that Jax knows that when Kane eats somebody, it equates to abstraction. That's really weird. That's really weird. and brings us a little bit closer to little scratchy poo. Okay, a little bit closer to scratchy poo. But if Jax knows that and Abel knows more than Jax, then Abel knows that abstraction means that Cain is consuming them.
Okay, there's probably other evidence to prove this.
Abel has deep knowledge of the circus.
We all agree on this because he knows where the administrator room is. He knows the thing is is Abel is also clumsy. Abel is also clumsy like Jax. So may maybe maybe Jax is just clumsy. Who knows? Who knows? Maybe they are the same.
But we are also saying based off of what episode 7 told us that Cain is able.
However, this is where Cain is able starts to come into this is where Cain is able starts to come into question because when I watch this scene, this scene feels very sincere.
When I watch the scene with Jax and Kane, does anybody believe that Kane is being insincere in the dinner scene?
So insincere that he would blue screen of death himself. He made a plan where he's going to get Jax to ask him to go to dinner and he is going to get Jax to make him so excited that he blue screen of deaths himself.
Cuz that's where we're at. If Kane is able Kane made a plan where Jax has to put his hand into his mouth. It's like it's literally like being like, "Yo, Jax, you got to chloroform me. Like you gotta like you gotta you gotta waterboard me, Jax. I need you to waterboard me as part of this fun adventure where you take me to dinner.
Like that that's what Kane's plan is.
It just doesn't feel like Kane's plan, right? Doesn't really feel like Kane's plan. And it feels like somebody else knows how Kane works and they are trying to get Jax to get the administrator pass because they can't get it for themselves.
So they need Jax to do it. So Jax becomes a willing pawn in this scheme because Jax doesn't know enough.
And if Abel knows more than Jax and Jax doesn't know enough, then could Jax truly be the creator of the Amazing Digital Circus or just a pawn for the scheme of the creator?
That's a question we have to start asking.
Could it be Ribbit?
Yeah, very good question.
Uh, but okay. Why does this look like a light? Why does this look like the the the the lamp?
Oh, Goose Works. I hate you. You hate me. I hate you.
Stop making canes look like lamps.
You're going to give the kids nightmares.
I don't hate you.
I love you a lot. Um, okay.
really fast though to continue proving the point.
When Jax shoves his hand down Kane's mouth because Abel told him to, I want anybody to convince me that Kane did not mean these words.
Somebody try to convince me. I dare you.
>> Have I ever told you how it's my dream to get eaten by you?
That's a weird thing to say. And >> did Kane mean those words?
>> Somebody convince me that Kane is lying in that moment.
I don't think he is. I think he's really confused. I think he's legitimately like, "That's weird, bro. Why you got your hand on my mouth?"
You know what I mean?
So given what we've talked about, given the fact that Kane was very confused about the hand in his mouth, given the fact that Kane would likely not have Jax forcibly make him blue screen of death him is Kane actually able is what we thought the truth was actually the truth.
Good night, Willow wonders.
I don't believe he I don't believe he knows. I don't think he knows. So, I think it's like separate. I don't think he knows this.
And the thing is is like if you still believe that, that's fine. That's fine.
I think there's other things that could prove it. And we're not really here to talk about whether or not Cain is Abel.
But we believe that Abel knows about this. We believe that Jack knows about this which starts to create an interesting picture.
And I think that picture we will have to finish tomorrow cuz now we can uh now we have done a little bit more on the jacks because now that we have Ael here.
Now we can start talking about the cornball because we've got extraction and we can talk about cornball. We can talk about scratch. We can start comparing Jacks to Scratch and seeing if they're the same person, which if you want the spoilers from me, I don't necessarily know that they are.
Now, is Kinger Scratch? That's another question.
But the thing is is like, could Jack have come from Scratch? So, why does Scratch's name Why does Jack sound like Scratch backwards?
That's a good question and that is where we have to start introducing a whole new slew of theories around like inverse theory and backwards theory and how potentially these characters are clones of each other and abstraction is some higher level blob of information and data that the new characters pull from. That is going back to like the programming concept that we haven't fully established yet. But I'm just saying all these things now in case it piques your interest.
And how maybe Jax is not Scratch, but maybe a fragment of Scratch, maybe a part of Scratch. And that the abstracted cast when a new cast member is created or cloned or copied like the printer like CMK color schemes are used for copies which Jax CM YK cyan magenta yellow key.
Jax is provides a key dynamic.
Starting to see the bigger picture.
CMYK colors are used for printing which you could call clones.
So is Jack Scratch? Maybe. Maybe. But I think maybe more likely he is a fragment or a clone of Scratch.
Comes from the same material.
And if you think I sound crazy, that's fine.
But you're the one who said that Kofmo is the paintings.
And you're the one who said that the plants are rivet.
So you're pointing in a mirror. Speaking of mirrors, just kidding.
Someday Danny will acknowledge acknowledge the Lotus Eater machine.
What does that even mean?
Lotus eater machine.
The lotus eater machine is using a character's knocked out or goes to sleep and wakes up in their own personal paradise.
You only have two moves. Oh my. No, I don't. What is happening? How do I get rid of help?
I need an ad blocker.
Okay. Uh I only have two moves. Pack. We only have two moves.
Pack. Pack. Pack. Pack. Pack. This is really important. I don't You think I care about the Lotus Eater machine? No.
Pack. This is really important. We only have two moves. And if your IQ is not 155 or above, you will not be able to make the correct moves here. Okay, first off, let's think about this pack. First, what the hell does this mean? I was like actually trying to analyze this.
Oh. Oh. Go left. What does THAT EVEN MEAN? WHERE does it even drop into? It drops into their feet.
What are we trying to accomplish? Drop the water into the lava.
Why is the water in a girl? Okay.
You get your mind out of the gutter.
Okay. Why is the water in a girl? You sicko. We're trying to solve serious problems here.
We're trying to solution serious puzzles. Why is the water in a girl? We only have two moves, okay? And you're thinking about why the water is in a girl. That has nothing to do with this.
This is a vessel, okay? We're talking about vessel theory.
This is serious. Thank you, De Marble Fox. Thank you. This is serious in the North Pack.
We take moves like this seriously.
Okay.
Why is it in a girl?
And how do we get how do we get that treasure?
All right, Northpack.
All right, Northpack. I think it's time for bed.
Drop the water on the lava. Okay, we got a 100 220 IQ dumb marble fox over here.
Acknowledge all this lore. No, see Rose who writes, I don't know if you were here earlier.
I'll say one last thing.
It's the thing you're asking. How will the show acknowledge all this lore? We actually talked earlier about how like the show has been doing this all the time.
And we Let's assume you weren't here earlier when we were talking about how the plants are the cameras of the show. And maybe they're not just the cameras, maybe they are rivet specifically.
We've saw we've seen multiple instances where Jax is looking at the cameras, looking at the plants, and looking embarrassed at them and and pointing at them. Go watch episode three. Go watch episode three. When Jack says, "What do you, the viewers, think they are?" Or, "What do you, the viewers, think it is about his power?"
He points out a plant. You've never noticed it before. Go watch. Go watch it.
If all goose works has to do is turn Ribbit into a plant or like show that somebody is an object.
Literally ribbit or literally all goose has to do is be like boop something weird crazy happened and now Kane is a trash can. Boop, something weird happened and now Ribbit is a plant. And then everything starts to make sense, right? Like that's literally all she has to do. She doesn't have to be like and then we turned Ribbit into a plan and then we said all of this. It's like no literally like literally all she has to do is just show it once for one character and then all of a sudden we're theorizing. Oh my god. Oh, Queenie was the paintings and Cough or Kofmo was the paintings. Whoa, that's crazy. Wait, if Kofmo is the paintings, then that means like what are the other characters? Yo, that trash can has Kane's color scheme. Whoa. And then it it spit out the like two purple bubbles, which is like why is there two? I don't know. And then the the lamp post. Oh my god, the lamp post. And then Kinger was like trying to get the the moths, the fly the butterflies. And then Oh, and then whoa, wait. And then Jax was like going and looking at the plants and he was so embarrassed and he was pointing at the plants. That must be Ribbit because Ribbit is all the crazy hands and they're the abstraction and you know what I mean?
Like literally she doesn't have to do anything. It's been there the whole time and that's like what's so beautiful about all these things. That's so what's beautiful about all of these theories.
It's like nothing has to be confirmed other than just showing one small thing.
She can fit a whole Pirates of the Caribbean in the last two episodes. You know how many things you can fit into a Pirates of the Caribbean? That's what I'm saying. It's been there the whole time. It's been there the whole time.
That's the beautiful part. And that we've just never seen it because we never know what to look for. Our eyes have not been open. This is the matrix.
The matrix. You We've accepted the reality that we have been presented with.
the community has accepted the reality that they've been presented with, which is why they think I'm insane. And now you're part of the insanity. You're part of the insanity. And this is also why I'm like, no one can bully me about this because even if my specific theories are wrong, even if the object theory is not true and ribbit's not a plant, it's like, so what? There's so many other things out there that like I literally had never thought about Ribbit being the plants until today. And we then we saw like 10 things that connected Ribbit to the plant, including the episode three thumbnail.
Hello. Like, what? It's been there the whole time. It's been there the whole time. I love your new tattoo, Danny.
Hey, thank you. I um It's actually not new. This is my first and only tattoo.
It's Gan Lagon. Who the hell do you think I am? Look at this.
That's my goats. That's my goats, Simone and Nia. My baby girl, Nia. I love Nia so much.
Okay.
Anyway. All right, everybody.
All right, Pack.
It's time to call it a night. And um I I'll probably do this again tomorrow. I have some time tomorrow.
And so we'll come back around the same time. Sorry to Marble Fox. I cannot do it earlier as I work have a work. I have a job or whatever. That's what I do. I'm going to go get Toby. Going to go to bed. Going to go to work and I'm going to be back here with you. I got a busy life pack. And then on and then on the weekend I got my girls. So I'm going to be spending it with my girlies with my two daughters.
I'll get them back on Friday after work.
Got a lot of Got a lot of busy got a lot of busy schedules.
Okay, pack.
Remember, Northpack, if you stay wild, you stay free. Adios.
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