Where are you going next? | ThisConnect S03E14

Added: 2026-05-12

[00:00:00]Hello and welcome to episode 14 of season 3 of disconnect. Yesterday I met somebody at the airport. They walked up to me and they said they're about to buy their first ever motorcycle.

[00:00:13]And I immediately got jealous and I want to discuss that.

[00:00:19]Okay, let's go.

[00:00:29]No, first of all, I I think we should say thank you to everybody who stops by and says hello at airports. It happens more and more often.

[00:00:37]I love the fact that this is more than a selfie session most of the time and we having conversations. And what that basically means is we have conversations on circles that I look forward to where intelligent conversation people are asking questions, they're thoughtful things in there, people are discussing stuff that you know, "Whoa, I hadn't thought of that." And now it's happening more and more often in real life, too.

[00:00:56]But I've never become like instantly jealous. Like I was very polite to him and very sweet to him and all that, but I was so jealous.

[00:01:03]What did he get?

[00:01:05]He's not decided yet. I think he's not going to get something.

[00:01:07]>> I was sitting in the taxi on the way home yesterday and I was thinking, "Karthik, when was the last time we did something completely brand new which we've never done before and the excitement of it and the planning for it and the getting set up for it and all of that."

[00:01:20]Mhm.

[00:01:21]Too long.

[00:01:23]Right?

[00:01:25]And >> Motoring.

[00:01:27]Yeah, I mean, the newest thing we did which was massive Massive was probably motoring three, three and a half years ago or whatever. And I was watching another YouTube video. No, it was a podcast. And it was leading up to a discussion about something. And it was leading up to the idea of somebody being 65 or 70 years old and going out on a world travel kind of thing or whatever.

[00:01:46]Uh it's Adventure Rider Radio if you want to see the podcast. And he was saying that there is a scientific reason why life seems to get faster as you get older. Uh-huh. Okay, so it's like when you're 20s, a year feels like a long time. Yeah. But when you're 50, a year feels like a very short time. And the interesting thing is he says when you do a new thing that the brain registers it as a new activity and it pays attention to it. So, it makes let's it sort of at an event, it takes more pictures of that event. Mhm. But when you've done this over and over again, then the brain says, "Oh, this is old information. I've already done this." And it dismisses that information. So, effectively, if you think of your life as a series of events you're attending, it takes a lot of pictures at the beginning, it takes a lot of pictures when a new thing happens, but it takes far fewer pictures as you get older and therefore the highlight reel that it makes for each event, which is what you really remember, the the top view, it's just shorter.

[00:02:41]And therefore, you're forgetting more as you grow older with time because your brain just says, "I've done this before.

[00:02:46]This is routine. I don't have to register this." This is a little counterintuitive because you're going to think of it as I know what he's talking about because I I know that content piece. I've I've seen that as well. And you think more pictures means you're going to see it as faster, right?

[00:03:02]But it's actually the other way around.

[00:03:03]Because when you're older, you you have so many marker points which are just working in the background. And you're just going through those, you're clicking through those without actually registering that you've come to this point. And therefore, it just feels like everything because you're just checking this off. This season, this date, this month, this that, you know, whatever.

[00:03:19]This was to happen. Holidays, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, all those check marks just go past and everything just feels like so much has happened because you've got so many more reference points as well now.

[00:03:29]Is that interesting? And at the beginning of my career, I would take lots of notes about vehicles I rode. Uh-huh. In the middle of my career, I didn't take so many notes anymore and I'm beginning to go back to taking more and more and more notes.

[00:03:41]>> See, this is so funny. Even same for me.

[00:03:44]Yeah. So, yesterday somebody at TVS, I was riding the Orbiter the day before we recording this episode. And I know him from from a long time, so he's pretty casual with me and he's the same age as me roughly and he's like, "You know, is bike it the notes I got?"

[00:03:58]Because I had my iPad out and I was like scribbling, scribbling, scribbling through the presentation, through the briefing, I finished my bike, riding the bike, changed out of my riding gear, back I back to the iPad, more notes and making note, note, note. And I was wondering, I don't actually refer to these notes after I've written them down 99% of the time.

[00:04:16]Yeah. But I feel like I haven't done my job correctly if the notes don't exist.

[00:04:20]Do you do the same thing? Yeah.

[00:04:21]Absolutely. I think the the it's it's like that, right? The thought turns into an action.

[00:04:27]So, the act of writing just registers that point from and that's what I've realized that when I write it down, it's kind of gotten stored in my head rather than it just being a passing thought.

[00:04:36]So, that writing of just the action, turning it into an action, becomes like a process for the brain to say that this is important, remember. So, like you said, afterwards you don't actually have to refer to the notes unless there's something specific that you're looking for. I think 80% of the things are there. It's just that maybe 20%, 5%, something that minute detail that you look for over there, but rest of it stays. Yeah, so I I was correlating it to the age factor, right?

[00:05:01]Like yesterday I tested the TVS Orbiter for the first time.

[00:05:05]And numerically, it would be my I don't know, 4,000th bike that I've ever tested. Mhm.

[00:05:11]Let's assume that a thousand of those were just feature stories and I didn't really have to know the nitty-gritties of how they were built or whatever.

[00:05:16]That's 3,000 opinions to remember. And at 50, I'm now thinking maybe I won't remember so well. I want to have a backup plan.

[00:05:23]Because the snapshots are getting fewer in time, right? So, when something brand new happens like the TVS Orbiter's cruise control approach is different from normal, registered.

[00:05:32]But it's hill hold approach is exactly the same as normal. Now, we can argue whether it works better or worse on motoring first, but that may not register. So, I'd better write it down.

[00:05:41]Uh-huh.

[00:05:42]And then I was thinking, when was the last time you actively went out and did something new so that you can make a better highlight reel for this year?

[00:05:52]Mhm.

[00:05:53]And for that, I want to start at the beginning.

[00:05:56]So, you were 18, you got your license for the first time.

[00:06:01]And then you officially rode a bike for the first time. Although because you were in Khopoli and in the back doors or whatever, in the back country as it were, you were operating vehicles much before that. Yeah. What do you remember and how much detail do you remember about the very first ride?

[00:06:17]I actually don't remember >> as a licensed rider. I actually don't remember the first ride at all. I don't remember it.

[00:06:24]But what I remember is that we were at the RTO and back then you don't go and collect it, wasn't posted to you, right? You have to go and collect it and this was when the cards had just come out. Just prior to that was the booklets and what was the first wave of the cards. And it was like a the whole group of friends were there. It was like a moment, right?

[00:06:45]Today he's getting his license. So, we were four of us there first thing, you know, like be the first in line to collect collect the license. I'm sure after that I drove I didn't have a car.

[00:06:56]Friends parents cars were there, so they used to get those cars and I used to then I'm sure we were in one of the Esteems.

[00:07:03]It was a white Esteem. I remember that.

[00:07:05]I think it was that, but I do not remember the drive, but I remember that moment in the RTO. Okay, now, I want you to understand what happened here, right?

[00:07:12]Karthik Keya was operating vehicles before.

[00:07:16]Which is one of the advantages of being in a rural area where policing is less, the dangers are less, people are less and there's land within sort of your control and not a public road where you can do all of this stuff.

[00:07:27]And in theory, that is legal. Today we would argue insurance may not pay out, etc., etc., but this is 20 This is about 40 years ago. Yeah.

[00:07:35]30 years ago.

[00:07:37]Roughly.

[00:07:38]40, 30 >> 30-ish, no. So, this is roughly 30 years ago. So, okay, right? I also rode my first bike as an illegal thing, but it was a spur of the moment thing. It was unplanned. Somebody walked up to me, gave me a bike, took me to a road in rural Gurgaon. And I know if you live in Gurugram today and Gurugram is so uppity and cool until it rains, Mhm. it's hard to imagine. But I've surveyed Gurgaon for my thesis, for my graduation.

[00:08:06]And I went off-roading on a Kinetic Honda with my relatively heavy-set friend sitting behind me.

[00:08:11]Always wondering, "Oh my god, it's not going to make it over that." And it always did. Mhm. I've seen Gurgaon before it became Gurugram as it were, right?

[00:08:20]And Mhm.

[00:08:21]my memory of that ride is just flashes of information. The the first one, I was just in class eight, so let's call it 14. I only have flashes.

[00:08:29]Like literally, I'm going through the night and I have like streaks of light passing me by is my primary memory. The two-stroke sound is my primary memory.

[00:08:37]I don't remember the bike. I know that it was a KB 100, but I have no like in the in my POV view, the meters and the handlebar and my hands aren't there. Mhm.

[00:08:46]It's a black road, relatively unlit.

[00:08:50]Streaks of light is all I remember of it. Mhm.

[00:08:53]Right? Yeah. But when I got my Kinetic Honda for the first time, Mhm. my memories aren't that strong because of that stupid >> ride when I was 14 because I'd already done for the first time the first time.

[00:09:04]Yeah.

[00:09:04]Right? But when I first tested a motorcycle officially, I promptly fell off both two times on two I was doing a comparison test, fell off both times. I remember both of those very, very clearly.

[00:09:16]That was the first. It was the first, right? Which I said Samurai versus RX 135. Yeah.

[00:09:23]Took them both from the showroom, dropped them both.

[00:09:25]Dropped them both in the same corner.

[00:09:29]Correct. You told the story.

[00:09:31]>> Clear memories.

[00:09:32]Mhm.

[00:09:33]Right? The only exception to the new thing I suppose is crashing. Mhm.

[00:09:39]Because when you crash for the first time, your brain hides information from you, so it basically takes away information saying this is too traumatic for you to deal with, you don't need to know. So, you have a sense of I went in there, something weird happened and then I was on the ground.

[00:09:49]And in your 10th crash, you'll suddenly like, I went there, I did something weird, the bike reacted weirdly, then it started to slide like this and I started to react like this and then you have the whole video playing out in your heads to what all happened and how you got up at the end.

[00:10:03]I think it's the only place where you remember so much detail and it's a matter of experience.

[00:10:08]Right?

[00:10:11]So, how do we make sure that our brain takes better snapshots as we get older so that we have a better idea of what we were doing with our time?

[00:10:22]And therefore we end up having a better life in the process.

[00:10:26]I mean to read the poster behind you, we get one life.

[00:10:32]Yeah. So, what would you do? Laugh more.

[00:10:34]How? I mean you work with me so that would help. But You know, you can't get by in office just saying, "Oh god."

[00:10:41]Because immediately you'll get a voice, "Yes."

[00:10:46]And that's I'm not making that And that is funny because that is so patently not true.

[00:10:52]I think me being the god part.

[00:10:56]I think laugh because uh It's It's like that same funda, right?

[00:11:01]Point and call.

[00:11:03]So, it's like celebrate the small things, right?

[00:11:05]I think that is the thought because of this question.

[00:11:09]Which seems just so obvious in that way, right? Because you just take the small and you fly with it and make it make it memorable. Yeah.

[00:11:18]That is the most dangerous thing. It's the matter of routine.

[00:11:21]Right? It is extremely possible and I think it happens to people I know who test motorcycles a lot and they become used to testing motorcycles a lot and therefore a lot of the stuff become subconscious and therefore it registers less.

[00:11:35]And we are not dumb enough not to realize that not every opinion has to be super granular.

[00:11:43]Maybe it doesn't help you.

[00:11:44]Maybe it helps me in terms of me setting context for a discussion like Motoring First where I know that I'm sitting with Karthikeya Singhee and I can't wing it.

[00:11:51]But for a review which is a very condensed version of the story, do I have to be that granular?

[00:11:57]Or can I get away by saying it's good enough?

[00:12:02]It's not a lie.

[00:12:04]But I can choose to ignore all of the detail that leads to the conclusion saying it's good enough because today 99.9% products are good enough.

[00:12:13]And what I'm asking is how do you consciously avoid becoming that?

[00:12:17]And the only way I figured this out and I failed already at it is for example, I'm good with languages, you know this.

[00:12:23]When you When I travel, I generally pick up vocabulary and accents really, really quickly.

[00:12:27]So, at the beginning of COVID I set myself a challenge saying I would learn Spanish and Japanese. Mhm.

[00:12:32]Failed at both. I know more words in both languages now but I confused the heck out of myself. I downloaded some books and I downloaded some study material and I downloaded found some podcasts which still continue to bug me although I've unsubscribed from both of them and so on and so forth and I learned nothing.

[00:12:48]But I realized that what I thought would be easy became really difficult because our brain structure sort of changes.

[00:12:56]So, if you have a child who grows up in a multilingual family, let's do a Can you give an example of what this would be?

[00:13:02]>> you. So, for example, if you have a child who's growing up and let's say just just for argument's sake that this child has five fathers and five mothers in that household and he reports to all of them and they all speak to them in one common language, let's call it English, but they use five different languages to communicate or 10 in this case to communicate with this child, I promise this child will grow up with 11 languages or something. One officially learn at school or she will learn at school. The other is the parental language that they will learn. They may not be able to write in all of them or read in all of them etc. playing field, but they will be able to speak fluently in all of them.

[00:13:34]That capacity is there.

[00:13:36]Right?

[00:13:38]Age this child 25 years and put them in the same situation, they will not be able to pick up so many languages because that latitude has disappeared.

[00:13:44]You have to now work to learn the language.

[00:13:48]And to me what that represents is that my brain has become a little bit more rigid with time. And if I were to force a language into it somehow, then it would sort of become unrigid and it would have to learn a new way to think about stuff because language has different structures, different grammar.

[00:14:04]English confuses us by not having too many masculine and feminine things whereas French is all everything is either masculine or feminine and it gets to you.

[00:14:13]So, one I want to learn a language now not because I'm going to use it but because I think I will remember more of this year if I struggle through Spanish class or Japanese class. So, when any new challenge comes your way, I think uh what happens in the brain is that new pathways have to be created for that to work.

[00:14:35]And what effectively we do by staying in familiar routine is that it's like highways. It's certain paths are just constantly used and those ones get reinforced and the other ones that are not used kind of die out. So, they aren't used so it doesn't become reflex to do those things. But when you trigger that, they'll start happening. They'll start re-routing. They'll start firing again and they'll grow then. So, that's always interesting. Yeah.

[00:15:00]And this is not true for adult coloring books, I'm just saying.

[00:15:04]Cuz it says that teaches you nothing.

[00:15:06]First to That teaches you nothing. It's almost I mean Okay, we're going to argue about this in the comments, perhaps. But I think it's just about as pointless as doom scrolling in the first place. See, if you were to draw that drawing and then color it in, I understand that there was a creative process to it. But here's a paisley or whatever and should I put yellow in it or blue? Honestly, it's not intellectually challenging enough.

[00:15:27]This is also why I would like to learn how to ride off-road. This is also why I would eventually at some point want to learn to play the guitar. And all of these are things that I will enjoy doing for sure.

[00:15:38]But the primary reason to do it is I'm not done with challenging myself yet and settling back and saying, "You know what? I'm done." Yeah.

[00:15:45]Correct. How do you approach the same challenge of saying it's comfortable if I just say I'm done and I don't push any harder?

[00:15:52]Or you say, "No, I'm I'm I'm not ready to settle down yet and I must push." How do you play this out?

[00:15:58]I actually not thought about it consciously.

[00:16:01]What was the last thing that I would have done that would have been challenging like this?

[00:16:05]I think both from the spheres of motorcycling, one would be track and one would be off-road.

[00:16:15]Both happened at different times.

[00:16:18]I don't know, it just happened. I didn't think about it consciously. It just happened like track happened because of work like just going to the track and then you figure out that you're at it. So, you got to be at least half decent.

[00:16:28]>> What did you do to push? And what did you learn from it?

[00:16:31]I think the schools happened, right? So, CSS? So, before that at Honda used to have a school. Oh god, that school.

[00:16:39]Yeah, yeah, correct. No, I'm saying oh god because not it was a bad school because the school instructors all spoke in Japanese and there was a non-motorcycling interpreter who had to interpret what the Japanese was saying.

[00:16:48]So, just to give you an example, there was one entire half an hour class with one of the motor Well, like a 500 cc racer.

[00:16:56]And basically for the interpreter's interpretation and Nobu-san himself got pissed off and then he took over the class and we said and I'm not kidding for half an hour he said, "You have to be strong physically and mentally." And he said this for half an hour.

[00:17:11]That was the class. So, the Honda racing school was just like a total waste of time not because this was a bad school but because translating and using a translator who doesn't fundamentally ride motorcycles and then you have like a 500 cc racing champion type and us. Yeah.

[00:17:27]Yeah. So, those then but I think the serious unlock was CSS.

[00:17:33]And CSS was I mean, that is a great example of feeling that sense that systems are not in place. Things are not coping up.

[00:17:44]Physical systems or mental >> Mental. It's mental. It's mental. 100%.

[00:17:49]Like because the pace and I remember from my notes from that school saying that I cannot keep up. Like the space at which the information was coming, the pace at which we were going from classroom to track to try out exactly what we what had been taught in classroom and put it into practice when my head was still trying to comprehend what had happened in the previous session. I was completely, completely out of sync and I remember that that was like there was pain, there was frustration and I also got shouted at in that by one of the coaches saying that dude you're you're looking like you're going to destroy that bike because you're just trying to go fast and not trying to follow what we are what we are telling you. So, ease up or we're going to pull you from the class. And that was and in fact that was like this one shock to the system which then helped reset, right?

[00:18:39]And that that's also something I remember that like kind of shocks suddenly create plasticity in your processing, right? In how you do things. And which is what happens in life also, right? Which is why when you see that something I'm sorry to say this but when some you go through something tough, traumatic, whatever, it is the in it is that that often creates this moment of change.

[00:19:04]Right? Which forces you because suddenly your patterns have become malleable and then you reshape them into Yeah, they don't just become malleable. You don't have a choice about the fact that you have to change something.

[00:19:18]So, that was like for me that they call it neuroplasticity and you can induce it by doing certain things and in this case it was by somebody else doing something and I remember immediately thinking that no, man, this can't happen. You got to fix this. So, how do you fix this? So, then kind of it was I mean like immediately like you could feel like a difference in how you approach things or you did things. I don't I can't explain it but it did happen. Um and then next time when I went for CSS, now this is the interesting thing, right? You did a second time.

[00:19:50]But now you're prepared for it so your brain was processing those things because those pathways had been made.

[00:19:55]So, it was being able to process what was being taught, and to me it was really like I was doing CSS for the first time all over again because now I could keep up. Now I could keep up, and now I could put things into practice.

[00:20:07]And that I think for me the thing is that I take repetition. For me, repetition is my way to cracking stuff. So, I just have to go out and I mean, if I have to figure something out, I just have to go and keep do keep at it slow, steady, whatever. That's my I can't do it like that. It takes me time.

[00:20:28]You do the same thing over and over again.

[00:20:31]You don't get bored.

[00:20:34]You know, I think >> Have you not heard of working smart? Cuz repeating the same thing over and over sounds like you're working hard. Mhm. So old school, Karthik.

[00:20:43]Sorry, I don't know if this actually answered the question that you >> No, it did. that you >> Because it's absolutely true. Right? He and I process information differently.

[00:20:51]Right? I'm usually uh I find confidence earlier, and therefore I can also be led astray earlier. He will think things through and then say, "Yes, I'm confident that this is the right thing to do, the right way to do it." We we operate differently. So, I came out of third day CSS feeling like, "Yeah, I got it I got this." Oh.

[00:21:09]>> I don't know if I got this or not.

[00:21:11]But my feeling was I got this. But it's when I went to my school and started to teach there, where we take what CSS does in a day in terms of the size of curriculum, and we spread it out over a two-day period.

[00:21:23]Uh that's when I understood why everybody else in that classroom looked so rubbed out because my first assumption was it's just they're not physically fit.

[00:21:34]They were not mentally fit. It was too much information coming at you at a pace that you just can't keep up with.

[00:21:41]And this three-day CSS format that we do in India is the most cost-efficient way that they can actually run the school, but they're effectively running three schools on three days.

[00:21:50]Not one school on a weekend. Mhm. So, you do go into overload. And the worst are the guys who are not taking notes.

[00:21:57]You're still taking notes. First year, I didn't take notes.

[00:22:01]It occurred to me the second time I went to CSS that I would extract more from this weekend if I were to write down everything they said and make sure it registered. Mhm. Have I looked at that notebook ever again? No, but I know exactly where that notebook is.

[00:22:17]>> Mhm. I know where the reference is available.

[00:22:21]Twist of the wrist, all three books are there.

[00:22:24]Right? I haven't felt the need to go back and look at it again.

[00:22:29]But I can see now in my school from the other side of the classroom where I am the instructor and there there are people I can see who's zoned out. Do you remember the first time you taught?

[00:22:39]So, talking is easy for me.

[00:22:42]And I can make stuff up as so quickly you won't believe it. And then I can do it convincingly, which is what I learned in college. I mean, I mean, officially I studied town planning. Mostly, I studied how to get through things by talking more glibly and sounding even more confident about what I was saying. So, teaching the first time was only interesting in the sense of at that point I had a very clear understanding of being on the other side of the classroom.

[00:23:04]And somebody gave me an opportunity to talk. I mean, how can that go wrong?

[00:23:09]When you say it like that, it makes sense. You have not not not a chance you'll remember what the first session >> so at our school officially we have four or five in six instructors as a pool.

[00:23:19]Usually, at least four will be every there and on the weekend. And we generally don't want to take more than 20 students, although that is a little bit negotiable.

[00:23:27]Who runs the classroom? Technically, we are all supposed to. Who actually runs the class? I won't let anybody else speak. And they're too sweet to say anything to me.

[00:23:38]I think most people will be like, "All right, it's okay, Shumi. You do it. It's fine."

[00:23:42]So, so we teach a section where we remind people how survival reactions work. Mhm. And I always let Anand take that section. Anand is a little bit older than me, and I say he's survived the longest of all of us, so he'll tell you how survival reactions work. So, the first time Anand is like, "What?"

[00:23:56]And then he understood that the whole thing is going to go like this only. So, our classrooms are super funny and all that, and I get to talk a lot, which is I love those weekends.

[00:24:03]But teaching also changed the way I ride motorcycles. Mhm.

[00:24:08]Right? Because I believe he is more instinctive as a rider, and I am more methodical as a rider because he can try stuff earlier and say, "Huh, that works." And I have to go through the process, which we've discussed before.

[00:24:20]But because I am I have to process motorcycling methodically, when I say going to the corner and in this drill we are going to do this one thing, I have had to break down that process five, six, eight times before I have understood how it works.

[00:24:33]Mhm.

[00:24:33]>> Right? So, just to give a common example, a CSS level one is throttle control.

[00:24:39]And they're saying, "Go into the corner, and I want you to do these four actions in a row, and it will feel like this if you get it right." And the coach will observe you do those actions and give you inputs whether you're doing it correctly or not.

[00:24:50]But to me, four was not enough steps.

[00:24:54]I had to break that down to 12 steps before I was like, "Okay, so I have to do this and this and this and this." And I had I don't want to crash, right? I'm afraid of that.

[00:25:02]So, I had to say, "If I go into the turning point and I close the throttle, then the bike will react like this."

[00:25:08]So, to me that's a step. I have nothing to do with that step in the sense it's not like I'm making the forks dive, but to me in my head that's a step. Mhm. And then I had to work through the process until it became so natural that I returned back to four steps. Mhm. But then, you know, on the other side in the classroom, then you realize that most people will probably be at 12 steps.

[00:25:26]>> Mhm. And some people will be at four steps for the same job.

[00:25:30]So, it's better for me to work the 12-step process out and then figure out most people are happy with six or eight, or can I just go to four?

[00:25:38]And when we are very lucky where everybody is at a reasonably high level doing level one with us, they all understand, think intelligent, they're all the same riding level, then you can go to level two a four-step process of throttle control.

[00:25:51]But sometimes you get people who are just have learned how to operate the clutch and the brake, and they just got their first miles under the belt. Can't go to four steps. You have to give them all 12.

[00:26:02]You have to say, "When you close the throttle, the bike will react in these three steps.

[00:26:06]And these are completely normal steps.

[00:26:07]Don't let it upset you." Mhm.

[00:26:10]And being on both sides of the classroom makes you think more and more and more granularly about the process of riding motorcycles, which also informs my testing now. Mhm.

[00:26:22]So, this is more like you're literally talking about steps rather than stages, and which is also damn cool because if you can think at that granular level as uh and I'm thinking when you're teaching two students, and if you they can think of it in TW as in throttle wide open. TW is the name of my school.

[00:26:38]Uh and uh if they start thinking of it in such minute steps, they'll be able to calibrate their riding beautifully. Hopefully. It can also become overload.

[00:26:50]No, eventually when once they get their heads around it, then they'll be able to break up and do things so much better in situations that they're not familiar with, right? That'll be really cool.

[00:27:00]Nice. Yeah. But when I test motorcycles, because I can break it down into so many steps now, I can figure out where the issues have started and then correlate back to what hardware design engineering process might have started the process of why it feels like this, which could be a good thing or a bad thing.

[00:27:18]Right? Yesterday, I rode two bikes.

[00:27:21]Uh and I found the one This is my uh luck also. I found the one bike where the talking of the steering head was not exactly right.

[00:27:32]So, hard on the brakes, that front started to judder. And then I sort of checked saying, "Anybody else's front juddering?" No, it was that bike. My luck, I found it. But when the judder came, I didn't go to the brakes first saying there's something wrong with the brakes because I was using a front drum brake after a really, really long time.

[00:27:45]Okay.

[00:27:47]But I was like, "When did the judder start?" Mhm.

[00:27:50]And I realized it's in step one. Not as the brake force comes to full, it's as the suspension starts to Okay, if the suspension's doing it. Mhm.

[00:27:59]>> strong enough to not move like this outer stanchion in a the outer fork leg to the stanchion?

[00:28:05]It's not. And I'm not doing this consciously anymore, right? I'm subconsciously saying, "Oh, steering head."

[00:28:11]Right.

[00:28:12]Right? Now, I'm saying if I go off-road tomorrow, it will challenge me in completely new ways. I'm used to having my wheels in line and having a certain sense of this much traction is available now. Mhm. Therefore, if I open the throttle this hard, the bike will not react. Traction control will not come on. Or if I do that way, then traction control should come on, which I sometimes want to because I'm testing and I want to figure out how abrupt are the responses, for example.

[00:28:34]Off-road will ask me to think about it in a different way.

[00:28:37]Where on a certain bike in a certain situation, I'm like, "Why is traction control coming on at all now? I want it to slide here or whatever." And it's a new pathway that will get built in the process.

[00:28:50]Oh god, we're talking about the fountain of youth, aren't we in some ways?

[00:28:54]I want to know what what the jealousy angle. I was jealous. I would never have a the experience of a first bike ever again, Karthik. Oh, first bike like proper first bike.

[00:29:03]>> first bike. I'll never have that experience again.

[00:29:05]>> Okay. Oh man, yeah. That Now I get it.

[00:29:07]Sorry. Yeah. That excitement, the the the the the the anxiety >> buying a bike. I didn't think it was the first bike. Okay.

[00:29:15]>> bike excitement.

[00:29:16]>> Oh, yeah. You never have it again.

[00:29:18]>> Never, never. Now that as soon as you said that, I remember like, "Okay, I had the Sunny Sunny Zip." But I remember the wait for the CBZ, man. That's literally lying in bed at night looking up at the ceiling and thinking so many things.

[00:29:33]Imagining so many things. Oh, yeah. That that was >> Yeah. I'm more practical than him. I did the same thing for my first bike. I closed my eyes because looking at a black ceiling achieves nothing. So, I saved effort.

[00:29:44]Just as many nights. Oh, yeah. Yeah, of course.

[00:29:48]>> Right? And and what I'm realizing is as you get older, your firsts will go by you.

[00:29:55]Right? Let's say you're into phones, your first Android, your iPhone experience is probably now behind you.

[00:30:01]So, a phone can be better as an experience, but it's not going to improve your experience.

[00:30:05]Mhm. Like I installed iOS 26 today in the morning and iPad OS and whatever all my devices.

[00:30:11]I haven't even bothered to mess with them yet.

[00:30:14]Which is not how my first iPhone was, right? When there's a software update, you can this close to taking leave saying, "Oh, new features." You don't do that anymore. You're not that excited about it anymore. Yeah. Right? I should be.

[00:30:26]Multitasking on the iPad is a much more improved thing and I do use devices like that, so it will actually make a difference to how I use my devices in theory.

[00:30:34]Mhm. I will work this out over the next few months. I'm not excited about software like that anymore. Mhm.

[00:30:40]Right? I'm much happier to test the beta version of Motoring app where new features are coming to you guys next.

[00:30:45]You know, I mean, and they don't work all the time. And I'm still more excited about that than iPad OS, right? But in that same way, I think the responsibility falls on us to have something new to look forward to.

[00:30:56]And if you're not making that plan, and if you're not pushing in that direction, every year's highlight reel is going to get smaller. Mhm.

[00:31:07]So, this is again like something I keep poking Siran also.

[00:31:13]It's the process of being or becoming a creator.

[00:31:17]Right?

[00:31:18]And let's take the motorcyclist that you're talking about.

[00:31:22]He's creating a new journey for himself.

[00:31:26]Yeah.

[00:31:27]It's something he's never done before and imagine saying that I am going to be on two wheels, which means I have to balance, I have to have so much awareness and I will flow and I will fly and all of that, right?

[00:31:41]That's a journey he's going on. It's not just riding a bike in that sense, right?

[00:31:45]Learning how to ride a bike is a different aspect.

[00:31:47]And so, I think every year what have you created? Like I think one of the best examples that you can understand, anybody will understand is mothers and children.

[00:31:59]What is the difference between one child and the other?

[00:32:02]Nothing. All children are the same if you they have to have the right environment, they will grow up fine, right? But every mother believes that their child is special. Right. Because they created it. You have been part of the creation journey. Correct. So, you will believe and even fathers, I'm not saying that I don't believe, but the point is that intrinsically you see it as a mother thing and mother is the creator. And so, they will always have that and you do it with anything. You think about you making a painting, you writing a poem, you making think Okay, the easiest example in today's day and age, you're somebody doing a vlog. What is the difference? All of us are riding motorcycles, we are going out in the same world and all of that, but you believe you're your vlog, your take has something different. And that's true, it's a bit of you. Mhm. And that makes it a little bit different, makes it a little bit special and that creation process, no matter what it may be and how inconsequential or in the larger scheme of things it may be, but that triggers something in you and that makes it special.

[00:33:05]When was the last time you did something that felt like that?

[00:33:08]I would like to know in the comments.

[00:33:10]Should do it even no matter how small.

[00:33:12]And again, going back to what Shumi was talking about his on-track riding thing, we've referred to this before like in Japan, they have the system called point and call and what he's doing is exactly that. He's taking every little thing that he's seeing and feeling on the motorcycle and calling it out. Press brake lever. Like what he did was split four stages into 12 steps.

[00:33:36]Press brake lever.

[00:33:37]Fork slide.

[00:33:38]Brain has registered, oh, suspension is reacting, which now, as we know as more I mean, as with more experience we know that means okay, yes, the wheelbase is also shrinking as the suspension compresses, so the bike will be more reactive, which you'll then feel when you're riding saying that okay, at this point it starts feeling more twitchy.

[00:33:56]Why does it do that? Oh, yeah, suspension compressed. Right? All those things. So, it's it's awesome like yeah, that point and call system is beautiful.

[00:34:03]And I'll tell you this, one thing if you want to change and try is to be in the moment, which is the more philosophical way of point and call, but it's exactly the same thing.

[00:34:13]>> Yeah.

[00:34:14]Right? I typically don't lose anything.

[00:34:17]Mhm. Like you know, people leave backpacks behind, phones behind.

[00:34:21]Never do it. Mhm.

[00:34:23]Because when I get up from a place, let's say I'm at the airport, I have uh yesterday for example, I was working and I had a long day because I was recording before I traveled etc. etc. The day before yesterday. So, I had everything out on the two seats that I was sitting on. I had my bag, I had a water bottle, I had uh the power bank and I had three cables and the watch was charging and the watch doesn't attach to anything, right? It's it's wireless and I hate wireless chargers for this because it's not tethered to anything.

[00:34:49]So, in theory it can fall off and continue to fall away. Whereas if a phone is tethered by the wire, then can't fall beyond a certain distance before you notice something. So, I'm like in the middle of these 50 things.

[00:35:00]And I was I was writing a I was writing my next column for Mumbai I columnist for Mumbai Mirror. And so, I was writing my column.

[00:35:07]I finished and I distinctly remember this moment where my brain basically said, "Enough."

[00:35:15]Back.

[00:35:16]And then for those next whatever 13 seconds or 15 seconds or whatever it was, the brain completely switched direction saying, "Organize your stuff."

[00:35:25]And each wire was therefore conscious it doesn't take time, but consciously put away. Everything was packed, the bag was created and I was going up to the next let's call it let's call it I was going to the toilet next. Mhm. Where I will put the bag down on a shelf, but to complete my mental process of I've got all my gear on me, I had to clip my backpack closed. Mhm.

[00:35:48]Once I did that, then I did the last thing that I do, which is I step away two steps and then turn back and just check the area saying is anything loose lying there. And now it is an unconscious process. I don't pay attention to it anymore, but I created this process for myself because I hate losing stuff.

[00:36:02]>> Mhm. It comes out of my bike fund when I lose stuff. Mhm. I don't know my bike fund.

[00:36:07]I have to I have to continuously pay for the fourth phone that I lost or the four pair of four pair of spectacles or whatever.

[00:36:15]But I had to do this. Mhm.

[00:36:17]I have to be in that moment and think that through and on a motorcycle as a process, it works really well.

[00:36:23]Why is my bum hurting? What's wrong with this seat? And then you break it down.

[00:36:28]We are complete opposites in this regard. I will constantly be losing stuff. I will constantly be and I will minimize what I can carry because anything that isn't physically attached to me, there's a chance it's going to get lost.

[00:36:41]Everything is physically attached to me.

[00:36:42]I have made lanyards and tethers and tethers and tethers and put carabiners on things and things and things until everything is attached.

[00:36:49]Oh my god. I remember some of you asked me about the watch and all. The reason I never wore a watch was because I would just take it off all the time and I would forget it, right? Typically when I'm writing or something like that, I'd end up taking it, putting it on the table and I've forgotten it.

[00:37:04]Somehow this time it's staying on. I don't know.

[00:37:06]>> I don't know. I've done the opposite with my sunglasses. I used to wear the sunglasses on the back of my head and for the longest time, like for years together.

[00:37:13]And everybody said uh you ruin your sunglasses. I said, "Listen, if it is not there, I'm going to lose it."

[00:37:20]Correct. It is tethered to my head.

[00:37:23]Mhm. I don't know if it'll bend and break and yeah, that's fine.

[00:37:27]I know it'll be there. Correct. And I'll tell you this, I grew up a little bit and I matured a little bit and I was convinced that the sunglasses on the back of your head was not a great image.

[00:37:36]So, I started to put them in a box.

[00:37:38]My sunglasses from that day onward scratch much faster.

[00:37:43]Okay. In a box? Yeah.

[00:37:46]Because your back of your head, how often do you lean it against things constantly where the sunglasses are in the way? Almost never. You almost always hold your head up. Mhm.

[00:37:55]It's the fact that now I keep taking it out of the box, putting it back in the Oh, it's scratched. Okay.

[00:38:00]Okay.

[00:38:01]So, I can't buy expensive sunglasses anymore.

[00:38:05]They ruined it for me.

[00:38:08]Point and call, I'm going back to that because something over there clicked for me like in the same thing that celebrating the small things.

[00:38:16]It's First, be aware of the small things would be the start point for that. Yeah.

[00:38:21]That would be like I have some friends who are like literally like they're having a laugh every day over something silly and you're just like you can't What What's What's going on here? And then you realize that yeah, he's just having he's enjoying the small things. It's It's nothing more than that. It'll just be a loud call out when you meet a friend after a long time and you're just like that's Yeah. I mean, you you wouldn't do that, right? He'll shout from across the hall when he'll see you, right? And he'll go, "Hey, Siran!" You know, like that and you're like, "Dude, what's up?" But he's made it a moment. He's turned it into a moment.

[00:38:55]It's That's like some of the guys we had friends earlier who turn up everywhere doing a wheelie. They're like making us moments special.

[00:39:03]But anyway, yeah. What happened to them?

[00:39:06]Grown up.

[00:39:07]Thankfully.

[00:39:08]I Growing up is overrated. I mean, despite the wheelie thing being true and all of that, I'm telling you growing up is overrated. I have a lot of classmates who grew up much faster than me and they behave like actual 50-year-olds.

[00:39:18]They're not fun people to meet. Mhm.

[00:39:19]They're intelligent and thoughtful and they're taking care of their families amazingly well and they're doing very well in their Yes.

[00:39:25]But they become old.

[00:39:27]You know, think think about the word uncle, which gets used a lot as a definition of somebody slightly older and whatever. I have a lot of friends who 100% uncles. Mhm.

[00:39:37]Calling me an uncle in my friend circle is very difficult to do because I'm still like I'm still the child. I'm still the guy who's like oh my god, yes.

[00:39:45]I'm still that guy.

[00:39:47]Yes, happens all the time.

[00:39:51]But I think what what what what I was remembering in the taxi as I was going home was it is easy to not remember to do this.

[00:40:02]Right? It is easy to just say it's good enough. I'll settle down here.

[00:40:07]And it could be true for anything, right?

[00:40:09]Like I settled down on my clothes and I don't remember the last time I bought my clothes. I'm fine. Don't look at these.

[00:40:13]This is office and I'm saying my personal what I would normally wear around the house and when I'm meeting my friends and stuff.

[00:40:19]I don't buy clothes anymore. I've settled. This is not something that needs to occupy my attention.

[00:40:23]So I'm not going to buy boots till I like destroy my boots because this is not worthy of my attention and time and whatever. Okay, if you're a sneakerhead, I'm sorry, but this is how I I'm I'm not judging you. I'm just saying this is what I do, right?

[00:40:34]I will examine my motorcycle gear for example, which is far more critical to what I do and perhaps more closely. But on the way home on the taxi, I was wondering what did I do brand new that really challenged me?

[00:40:47]And I want to have positive answers on a regular basis.

[00:40:50]Otherwise, I will become an uncle. Okay, then then my pride and joy will be that I behave like a 50-year-old, but I'm 75.

[00:40:57]And that's not much of an achievement, honestly.

[00:41:01]So one of the things that I realized was stuff comes knocking.

[00:41:05]And do you get up and say yeah, or do you just ignore it?

[00:41:13]And the simplest example of this is like when Siran was much younger he used to Now like for instance now when we work out he'll do stuff that I'd do, right? Like he'd do the same kind of stuff.

[00:41:29]But when he was younger, that's that wasn't the case. So he'd say, I'll make you work out. And you'd be like dude just let me uh you know, like and then obviously I said okay, fine, let's do it. And whatever exercises they were being taught in school he would make me do them do those exercises, right? He would have this routine for warm up and then the main exercises and all of that.

[00:41:49]So I remember the first time he did it like created this exercise routine and we had to do it together.

[00:41:57]One of the things was duck walk.

[00:42:00]And I hadn't done duck walk ever until then, believe it or not. And we were doing it in the garden and I just remember thinking, man, this is painful.

[00:42:10]This is torture.

[00:42:12]Right? And I love that exercise and I will never and I and I don't forget what it felt like doing it the first time. And now anytime you want to do a quick nice stretch warm up whatever like if you want and you're going to do intense legs, duck walk you know is the easy way to sort that out.

[00:42:29]It's the it's painful, but it's an easy quick way of getting getting everything done quickly.

[00:42:34]And with him I realized so many times it'll be just like those small things.

[00:42:40]That just change the mood, that change the feel and you just feel like it took nothing. Like the easiest thing is as an example would be like let's say we guys are busy on weekends as well, so he'll be waiting for time and you and he'll come again say come on time now and you'll be like no no, I got to finish this finish that. And sometimes you realize it's only going to take 5 minutes to do whatever it is that he's asking you for.

[00:43:04]It's just a question of you listening and saying that okay, I need 5 minutes.

[00:43:08]Can I make 5 minutes? Yeah, okay. Yeah, I can make 5 minutes. And you come back after these 5 minutes and you're just like in a different zone, right? It's it's like a lovely little reset. So I think what I have realized in some ways and I'm somebody who's very rigid. Like I'm saying if I'm doing this then I'll only do that. Uh that little bit of that flexibility, little bit of that listening to what's happening and finding the flow. Little bit of saying yes. Yeah, I tried.

[00:43:35]What about you?

[00:43:36]I I'm just desperate to do more things now.

[00:43:39]Like we've been doing more things for 3 years and a lot of stuff has settled into place and a lot of stuff we're still trying. So there is new input coming from inside the organization on a daily basis. I'm very happy about it.

[00:43:49]Right?

[00:43:50]But as we are becoming more stable, I also have a little bit of more free time on my hands.

[00:43:56]Now I want to do new stuff in that time.

[00:43:59]One of the ideas I'm working on which you guys will get to see. I'm trying to inspire him to do the same thing also and if we both do it then we'll both be doing something completely different.

[00:44:07]Right?

[00:44:08]There's no details to offer yet.

[00:44:10]But I'm desperate now to say can I find a Spanish language coach and start on this thing?

[00:44:17]Right? I have figured out how my fitness works over the last since 2000, so let's call it 5 years I have actively paid attention and worked out worked out. So I'm now wondering should I be looking for a like a trainer in the gym? I work out at home mostly, but should I be going out and saying am I pushing it hard enough?

[00:44:35]And should I be doing something different?

[00:44:38]Uh I did speak to Do you know Yogi Chhabria? He has a garage. So I spoke to Yogi at the KTM 160 Duke on saying I want to do off-road and where do I start? And he's like uh just start. And then he remembered it was the middle of the rains. And I do want to start on my adventure because I want to unlock the ability saying I want to take my bike onto a trail and in confidence and mostly it'll probably be solo and I don't want to do anything.

[00:44:59]He's like yeah yeah okay, let the rains get over.

[00:45:02]Let the traction become a little bit more reliable and then start.

[00:45:07]Come to this place, come with me, we'll go riding together. And I intend to make call to maybe Ashish and maybe two three other people saying what do I do?

[00:45:14]Information gathering. I am now desperate. I refuse to do the same thing over and over again.

[00:45:19]I love my work.

[00:45:21]But the rest of it now I want to change.

[00:45:24]And I have decided and in that taxi ride was interesting because I was looking out not listening to music, just in my own head. And I'm like I feel like I'm not doing enough stuff.

[00:45:34]Uh new stuff.

[00:45:39]And in some ways I know that there is a long-term goal to go around the world on a bike or whatever. I know that I'm making the steps that are falling into place for unlocking that thing.

[00:45:50]I remember what I wanted to do. Yeah.

[00:45:52]I was saying you were No no no, I finished. Tell me.

[00:45:55]Archery.

[00:45:56]Mhm. I usually wanted to when we were we were when we were staying in the bungalow, we had space. I always wanted to do it then.

[00:46:03]That's the one thing I want to take off.

[00:46:05]Yeah.

[00:46:06]Let's do it.

[00:46:07]We are in September.

[00:46:10]So we should have some parts of this actively worked on and unlocked, let's call it when this Connect season 4 starts. Oh.

[00:46:19]Yeah. Yeah, we're at episode 14. So there should be officially six episodes.

[00:46:22]We extend the season beyond that, we'll see. So that's straight away 1 and 1/2 months.

[00:46:28]We'll usually take a 6-week break.

[00:46:30]So 3 months more.

[00:46:32]Then we should have done something about this by then.

[00:46:36]Oh man, nice. So since you've selected uniquely and so focused archery, then you have to do something about archery.

[00:46:42]And since I have either a Spanish teacher or somebody who changes my fitness routine or the off-road thing, most likely the off-road thing because all the equipment for that is already there.

[00:46:50]We have to unlock some part of this.

[00:46:52]Yeah, it'll be fun to do.

[00:46:54]Set a challenge for yourself.

[00:46:56]Something that you've always thought that you should really do and you've just never gotten around to it. You're on the same time scale as us and we'll discuss this at the end.

[00:47:04]Right? He said archery. I have picked three things that I would like to work on. I'm not sure I'll be able to do all three, but I'm going to give it a red hot go.

[00:47:11]And I want you to do the exact same thing.

[00:47:14]Oh my god. I was so upset about the fact that I'll just never have the completely new bike first time ever experience again. And this person he then said all the right things. He waited, he collected the money, he did the research and I know the excitement of it and I desperately wanted and that one thing I already done before and then 14 times more. So I can't have never bought a bike before my excitement.

[00:47:38]I can do it in other ways.

[00:47:40]Yeah.

[00:47:43]Awesome. It'll be fun.

[00:47:44]Yeah.

[00:47:45]So it's not a new year resolution thing, you know.

[00:47:49]It's about making the year count.

[00:47:54]Right? If you block time by the year and humanity seems to.

[00:47:59]What did you do in 2024 that makes 2024 one of the most memorable years you've ever lived?

[00:48:06]And it should be a better year than 2023 at least in your memory because you did level up.

[00:48:13]And are you going to come to 2026 saying yeah, 2025 was awesome. It's even better than 24 because if you can keep that going, man, you're awesome.

[00:48:22]What a life you would have lived.

[00:48:25]And that life unfortunately does not happen in the digital world.

[00:48:32]Okay.

[00:48:34]Digital world conversation is No, I'm I'm just setting a baseline. I mean every single time I try to solve these things, I find myself back in the real world.

[00:48:45]It's not like I do not get the convenience of it, right?

[00:48:48]Learning Spanish online is today very very very much simpler than having to find a Spanish teacher.

[00:48:55]But to speak to somebody who speaks Spanish the best experience is if they're in front of you.

[00:49:04]Be there.

[00:49:06]I mean I I have to go to Spain on a holiday to practice and get a sense of is my Spanish good enough or not? I mean, isn't that awesome?

[00:49:15]Much better than some Duolingo AI or whatever it is the latest thing now saying ah see, you speak great Spanish.

[00:49:20]No, I don't want the feedback. I want the experience, right?

[00:49:25]So you've picked one mental game which is your languages. You've picked one physical game. Anything specific in that? No, you've not said that. I I know that what I'm doing right now seems to work for me. But is that the most efficient, most optimized, the most appropriate, etc. I do not know.

[00:49:42]Like let's say that I pick something so hard that I'm wearing my joints out. I would not know this, but a professional would have saying, "No, no, you're just wearing your joints out."

[00:49:51]So to be able to guide that to a more productive place.

[00:49:57]Okay, I've picked one more target. Yeah, tell me tell me tell This this one. No, come on. That's not fair. I But again, I'm saying that at the end of this 3-month period we have to be positively moving in the direction of at least one of the goals that you've picked.

[00:50:14]I mean, you're Karthik Singh is not going to half-ass it. So you're not going to say I shot an arrow.

[00:50:19]You're going to put some work into it, right? Yeah. I mean, that I mean, it'll be fun if that goes well. Muscle up.

[00:50:27]You're going to try to unlock a muscle up? Yeah. So his son already does more push-ups than him, and he's not happy about competitive like He is I was not expecting him to be so competitive, but it turns out that >> He's calling me old man and stuff, man.

[00:50:38]>> But you are an old man. There's nothing wrong with that. But when he says it, obviously it feels like So yeah, I'm going to work towards that.

[00:50:47]I mean, if you call a dog a dog, the dog doesn't mind. It's literally the name of the species.

[00:50:52]You are an old man. There's nothing wrong with that. You got to drag it along a little bit. Show him what's what.

[00:50:57]>> That has nothing to do with being old at all. Old man is a is a state of physical description, and yes, you are 40-something.

[00:51:04]So what? Cool. I got this now.

[00:51:07]This is nice. So archery and muscle up are your two targets, out of which hopefully you'll have made positive movement towards one of those. Awesome.

[00:51:15]Seriously, yeah. I want you guys to >> See, this is out in public now, which means this is like No, no, you can fail.

[00:51:21]Look, and and don't worry about I'm telling you don't worry about success. I may be too old to learn a new language is something that I'm going to discover, and I'm going to have so much fun discovering this.

[00:51:32]I'm going to put everything I've got trying to learn this thing.

[00:51:35]This is not a mystery to me. I'm still unclear about Japanese and Spanish because Spanish is familiar, but useful. Japanese is unfamiliar, but honestly not very useful. Like I have no intention of sitting down and talking to old people over and over again, because that's what seems to be the story of Japan right now. But one language has to be figured out in some way or the other is the thing, and I could fail at it, but at least it'll teach me something about where I've reached.

[00:52:00]He may fail to do the muscle up, and that's not the issue here. The issue is he put everything he's got into the effort.

[00:52:06]And the effort will teach him so many things about himself.

[00:52:11]Think about it like this.

[00:52:13]I I intend to ride off-road, which requires you to fall quite a bit. My capacity to fall it's limited. My ability to recover from an injury coming from a fall, extremely limited.

[00:52:25]And if I have a big enough fall and break something significant enough, will I have the confidence or courage to go back and ride off-road again? I do not know. But in theory, there is a career-ending injury waiting in that scheme of whatever could happen.

[00:52:40]I have to work this out.

[00:52:43]I'm just saying I'm not afraid to try, and I'm not afraid to fail.

[00:52:47]I'm not saying I'm going to succeed. I'm going to give it my best shot. That's the best that I can do.

[00:52:52]But I'm no longer willing to sit back and say 2025 was a great year.

[00:52:57]What is the highlight? A podcast with Singh.

[00:53:00]There's a friend >> It's awesome, but there has to be something more. There's a friend who always It was very interesting that he said that you should be able to look back at each year and remember it for one thing, right? One thing at least, right?

[00:53:18]What is it that you really ukarod in that year, right?

[00:53:22]What will you remember it for? And I always thought that, man, that is such a simple and awesome way. You'll do 100 different things in the course of a year, but there has to be one thing that really meant something and you did it, right?

[00:53:35]All right. there's a very very subtle thing in there that you will not spot.

[00:53:39]Like I was thinking about saying, "Okay, so what did I do in 2016?" The first thing that came to my mind is I bought two big bikes.

[00:53:45]Right? The R15, uh R6, and the Multistrada were roughly bought in 2016.

[00:53:53]That's not an achievement.

[00:53:56]If I were to phrase it as I found the financial wherewithal to purchase these two, okay, maybe.

[00:54:02]So acquisition is not an achievement.

[00:54:08]And there was a loan involved, so technically HDFC Bank did more than me that year.

[00:54:13]An achievement, the memory has to be something you did.

[00:54:17]Unlock. Something you pursued and worked out and put effort into, and that is what you should remember.

[00:54:27]You know, if you think about buying a house as a struggle, it's the struggle that is the achievement, not the house itself.

[00:54:34]Correct. That's the value you attach to it.

[00:54:37]It's very easy to get these two eyes crossed up.

[00:54:40]And if you do cross cross them up enough, then your achievements achieve nothing.

[00:54:46]All right. I'm looking forward to uh hearing from you guys as to what you are setting Seriously, this is going to be fun. Let's see if we can do this. Season 4. Season 4 start.

[00:54:57]That that'll be the deadline for us to do the best we can. We'll give you plenty of warning on circles, I promise.

[00:55:04]Yeah. The world may not know. On circles, we'll make sure that before season 4 starts, we'll give you plenty of warning saying deadline approaching.

[00:55:12]Oh, nice.

[00:55:14]Good fun. Awesome.

[00:55:15]>> Yeah.

[00:55:17]No, and again, thank you so much for making us think.

[00:55:20]This is true on circles. This is true for the people we meet as we are going about our lives.

[00:55:25]You do you do make us I wished a lot of people happy Teacher's Day back.

[00:55:29]So they said happy Teacher's Day. I said, "Thank you, and the same to you."

[00:55:32]And they're like, "What do you mean?"

[00:55:35]But it's a two-way street.

[00:55:37]Every day I am a student, and every day I have the opportunity to be a good teacher. I don't always be a good teacher, but that opportunity presents every day.

[00:55:46]You've taught us about ourselves as much as we are being told that Motor Ink is helping you, too.

[00:55:52]And I think an an honest and heartfelt thank you is due.

[00:55:58]Absolutely.

[00:56:01]You were talking about this the other day, like about our colleague, Stephen.

[00:56:06]And he's obviously talking to Shumi, so he's he's a little bit nervous about and Shumi's asking about his opinion on a bike that was in office.

[00:56:15]And uh So Stephen was like, "How can I give my opinion to Shumi, right?"

[00:56:21]And we had to tell him that, you know, you as a new rider experiencing a bike of that type for the first time, it's stuff that we cannot we cannot see anymore. We cannot feel that way anymore. And so when you see it and say it in this context of today, we are learning. So every time we are interacting and hearing from you and learning about your lives, we are learning so much and honestly so grateful for that. Yeah. And so many parts of so many slices of the world, the lives that you're leading which should be so different from where we are at, and oh, it's awesome. Like that's why I always keep asking, "Where is this photo from?" Like I want to know which parts of the country everybody's in. It's so gorgeous, and you're just thinking, "Man, what would it be like living over there?"

[00:57:07]Oh, really nice.

[00:57:10]So achievement unlocked is our next goal. Huh.

[00:57:14]That's the hashtag, yeah. Well, why not?

[00:57:16]It was right there. Take care. No, it could end in struggle is real, also. I mean, I'm I'm okay with that. Let's do it. Let's do it.

[00:57:23]>> Yeah. All right. Cool. Yeah. Let's fail at a few things in the process, but let's learn a lot more about ourselves and how far we can go.

[00:57:31]Nice. You remember, right? Humanity started in some pocket in Africa.

[00:57:36]And today we have 8 billion people, and in practice, over the last whatever 20,000 years, we literally walked walked here.

[00:57:44]Think about the distance that was covered.

[00:57:47]And how many generations it took.

[00:57:51]But they literally put in the work.

[00:57:54]And today we've occupied the earth and we're busy damaging it in 1,000 ways or whatever.

[00:57:59]But that's the amount of effort humanity is capable of when we put our mind to it.

[00:58:04]I just feel like maybe we've taken it a little bit easy, and I'm saying we have a choice about taking it a little bit more rich in terms of the vibrancy of your life.

[00:58:12]And that we shouldn't forget that that opportunity exists in far greater ways today than it would 10 years ago, and far greater again than 10 years before that, and far greater again than 10 years before that.

[00:58:24]It's become easier to sit back and relax.

[00:58:27]It's also become far more opportunity-oriented if you choose not to do it.

[00:58:37]What?

[00:58:38]Just conversation with a friend. He also has a young son, and he was saying that, you know, looking at what's going on, and it's us as parents to blame that how much does a child really struggle today? How much does he he, she left wanting? And that wanting is something that today you instantly want to douse, because you see it as a failure on your part, or it is your inability to handle that discomfort of saying that the child wants X, but A, I can't give it is one thing, but I don't want to give it, that's another thing altogether.

[00:59:16]And by not having that struggle or that pain, I don't I mean, they're not you're not going to grow out stronger. So I think part of this is bigger struggle.

[00:59:28]Struggle with something. Yeah. And I think >> Hey, I got a better hashtag out of this.

[00:59:32]Distant gratification.

[00:59:35]All right. So, not achievement unlocked.

[00:59:37]Uh yeah, okay.

[00:59:38]>> Distant gratification.

[00:59:39]>> Yeah, let's struggle through something.

[00:59:42]We pick it ourselves, and let's see where we take it. Yeah. I think it's important.

[00:59:47]100%. What you were saying that I don't know what we'll talk about this time. Uh No, this was your topic.

[00:59:53]>> No, you already talked with somebody from Motoring Fam coming up to me and saying here's an idea for your next podcast.

[00:59:58]They didn't I mean, he didn't didn't know that he was doing it. Uh he didn't He didn't know he was doing it, but here we are. Nice. Thank you very much.

[01:00:07]Take care. All right. Any last thoughts?

[01:00:10]No, I think this is good. Now, I'm already thinking about actually what is happening in my head now as soon as this has been locked in, is the idea that Okay, let's think about it this way. Fundamentally, archery is not very different from riding a motorcycle or driving a car.

[01:00:27]Well, it's the same thing. So, you will inherently rely on the same paths to achieve uh let's say expertise over there.

[01:00:41]And the same thing will apply for the muscle up. You know how to do basic exercises. That's a simple kind of exercise. You'll follow the same thing.

[01:00:46]How can you break the pattern?

[01:00:48]How can you do some do that process differently so that it is it's sparking creativity. Like, it's forcing you to think differently. I've I've started to think about that now.

[01:01:02]You're going to discover Whitney Houston's favorite kind of coordination.

[01:01:09]I think you do done this one before.

[01:01:13]Do you guys know which app? I don't know which app, but it was done.

[01:01:19]All right, sir. All right.

[01:01:25]Cool.

[01:01:26]Three, two, one. Disconnected.