4 Pro-Palestinians Tried to Debate Me… It Went VERY Badly

Added: 2026-06-02

[00:00:00]Of course, I've heard of the Nagba. It's nonsense. But the Nagba Okay, sure. Let me ask you, what predates the Nagba?

[00:00:06]What exactly happened?

[00:00:07]>> You tell me.

[00:00:08]>> No, no, you you made the claim. You tell me. Do you agree Jews were going into Palestine way before 1948?

[00:00:15]>> Of course.

[00:00:15]>> So, why is the Nagba not in 1881 or 1882 or 1930? Why is it 1948 specifically?

[00:00:22]What What happened? What was the first domino that led to quote unquote the Nagba? Why 1948? A war. A war, right?

[00:00:31]People were displaced in war. 70,000 Jews were displaced in the first week of the war. Nobody claims Nagba for them.

[00:00:36]850,000 Jews were displaced after the war. Out of all the surrounding Arab nations, nobody claims Nagba for them. That's way more than the amount of Palestinians that were displaced. How come you don't talk about that? Right? Because they're not victimizing themselves. That's why.

[00:00:52]>> Yo, what's that flag in the back? I >> see I see that flag in the back.

[00:00:55]>> All right, I got to let my guest leave.

[00:00:57]It was good meeting you. Have a good one. Have a good one.

[00:01:02]>> Yo, what's that flag in the back?

[00:01:03]>> I see I see that flag in the back.

[00:01:05]>> Yo, this guy's >> Why y'all laying in bed together?

[00:01:08]>> Because >> we just trying to chill. We don't got a seat. We can't afford it.

[00:01:11]>> Hey, take that [ __ ] off your wall if I smack you.

[00:01:15]>> How you got the Palestinian chain? But then >> there's like more than three dudes in the bed.

[00:01:20]>> Four dudes sitting in a hot tub or >> aka two couples. Fat ass [ __ ] Take that [ __ ] off your wall. I snatch you.

[00:01:29]Fat ass [ __ ] >> Your friend is super fat. Wait, why are you like, look at him.

[00:01:37]>> He just did a look.

[00:01:38]>> Yo, what? What? What?

[00:01:40]>> All right. Well, have fun laying in bed together on your on your >> Israel. It's Israel.

[00:01:47]>> Where from? You must have got the save wrong cuz >> I want to know like what's uh >> like well like what's the reason you have this like support like the support >> because so many people have so much hate for them and so I studied it because I was curious because so many people talked about it negatively and then when I studied it I realized Israel was on the right so I started uh being pro-Israel.

[00:02:10]>> What exactly did you study? Can you like tell so we could have like a civilization?

[00:02:13]>> Elon Pap, Constantine Zer, Benny Morris, Ephraim Kh, Alan Dersowitz. I've read I have Stone. I read the history anti-Zionist books. Khi, Constantine Zur, Elon Pap, all anti-Zionist. I've read Zionist books like how >> Oh, I know more than I know way more about the history than all of you guys combined.

[00:02:32]>> Yeah. No, for sure. Uh, for sure.

[00:02:33]Definitely. That's why I want to >> So, the more I study, the more I realized Israel was in the right.

[00:02:38]Zionist or sorry anti-Zionist books that I read, they were all over the place and they were kind of debunking each other and they weren't really solidified in their thoughts. So I realized they were lying.

[00:02:48]>> So even whenever like the ships came from, you know, all over all over Europe.

[00:02:52]>> Yeah. So like for example, that's been debunked. So for example, one of the most famous ships that were taken a picture of, you know, how they had that sign that said they destroyed our hopes and dreams, don't destroy or they destroyed our homes, don't destroy our hopes and dreams. That was the Aliabette ship Theodore Herzel. It actually never made it to Palestine. They actually >> the British >> Yes, they were. And so a lot of prop palies like to say, "Look, we accepted you in." It actually was the opposite.

[00:03:17]The Arabs, right, actually rioted and attacked the British to make the British not bring Jews in. And so the British actually intercepted that ship and sent all the Jews to interment camps in Cyprus.

[00:03:30]>> Yeah. Then how did Jews enter in there?

[00:03:33]like the modern >> a lot of them went there before even the British mandate.

[00:03:36]>> I mean also but there's a difference between >> someone that's Jewish and >> Yeah. Yeah. Zionist. Yeah. I know. I know what you guys say.

[00:03:43]>> Yeah. No, but I'm I'm confused how like Okay, you're saying Okay, there that's >> the first major aliyah was in 1881, which was before the British mandate.

[00:03:50]>> We're good. We're good.

[00:03:51]>> The first what?

[00:03:52]>> Major Aliyah was in 1881. Aliyah is when Jews go back to their indigenous homeland.

[00:03:56]>> That was in 1881, which was during the Ottoman time.

[00:04:01]>> Yeah. Yeah. And that's kind of whenever the the guy who actually invented Zionism or like started that whole >> Well, actually, no, he didn't do that till 1897. It was almost 20 years later.

[00:04:13]>> Interesting.

[00:04:16]>> That was Theodore Herzel, by the way, is who you're thinking of.

[00:04:19]>> Yeah, Theodore Herzel. Yes.

[00:04:20]>> Right.

[00:04:21]>> That's the guy.

[00:04:21]>> And he also didn't invent Zionism.

[00:04:23]Zionism started all the way back in the Babylonian exile time, but he politicized it. That's true.

[00:04:27]>> No, I don't understand his >> Yeah, I understand that. Okay. There there could be so much debate back and forth on whether or not like who who the land is for. You could say >> it's for Israel, blah blah blah.

[00:04:37]>> Do you know when Palestine's independence date is?

[00:04:41]>> Do you know when Palestine's independence date is as a sovereign country?

[00:04:45]>> I'm sorry, I can't hear you. Everyone's >> Do you know when Palestine's independence date is for as a sovereign country?

[00:04:52]>> Are you going to say something like uh like very recent or something? November 15th, 1988. That's the independent state of Palestine. You can Google it right now and you'll see it.

[00:05:03]>> Yeah, that's fine. I >> That's 40 years after Israel.

[00:05:07]>> I know, but as the people who live there, >> the indigenous Palestinians who live there, the actual Palestinian >> Palestinians aren't indigenous.

[00:05:15]>> Not indigenous, whatever. We could say that like it it just the whole point of okay, not indigenous. Could I just say like if I'm had roots going back to Indonesia, I could just go to Indonesia and be like, "Hey, I'm from here ethnically, so I have to live here."

[00:05:28]>> Well, no, but if you keep to your tribe and culture and ethnogenesis, then yes.

[00:05:32]But if you're just somebody who like spit in a tube maybe, and you just found out, then yeah, I'd see your point. But the Arabs, >> that's most of the that's most of like the people from New York or people from Poland, people from Russia or Ukraine.

[00:05:45]Do you ask them where their grandparents are from? They all say Russia, Ukraine, this and that. Like the But but but that's a >> Yeah. No, I got it. But the reason that's a ridiculous point is because they were forced into the diaspora via people that uh came into their land and forced them out. It's not like they went there by choice. So it's kind of ridiculous if you ask Arabs where their great great grandparents are from. A lot of the times it's Jordan, Egypt, Syria or Saudi Arabia, Yemen. Uh so it just it's it's kind of a ridiculous point to say. First off, most Jews in Israel are not Ashkenazi. I don't know if you know that. Most of them are sphartic/ misrai.

[00:06:19]But even if you ask the Ashkanazi, so what? It's not like it's not like they went to Russia or Poland or Europe by choice. They were pushed out.

[00:06:29]>> Of course, I understand that. But it's it's not I know what happened is not right, but it's not right for them to come back and be like, "Okay, yeah, this is our land."

[00:06:38]>> That's not what they did.

[00:06:39]>> That's not what they did when the first major Ali >> Nakba >> Yeah. So the of course I've heard of the Nagba. It's nonsense. But the Nagba Okay, sure. Let me ask you what predates the Nagba. What exactly happened?

[00:06:53]>> You tell me.

[00:06:54]>> No, no, you you made the claim. You tell me.

[00:06:57]>> No, I'm talking about the Nagba. I'm not talking about what's before that. I'm saying what happened.

[00:07:01]>> No. What? What? I'm not saying like what was 100 years before. I mean literally what started the Nakba.

[00:07:08]>> Like for example, do you agree Jews were going into Palestine way before 1948?

[00:07:14]>> Of course.

[00:07:14]>> Okay. So, how come the >> Jew? We had It's not a joke.

[00:07:17]>> It wasn't It wasn't a go off on a different subject. It was just a yes or no. So, why is the NKBA not in 1881 or 1882 or 1890 or 1902 or 1930? Why is it 1948 specifically? What What happened?

[00:07:32]What was the first domino that led to quote unquote the Nagba?

[00:07:38]And then I'll tell you who coined the term NBA. But first, let's start with this.

[00:07:42]>> Okay.

[00:07:43]>> What was it? What happened? Why 1948?

[00:07:48]>> A war. A war, right? People were displaced in war. 70,000 Jews were displaced in the first week of the war.

[00:07:53]Nobody claims Nagba for them. 850,000 Jews were displaced after the war out of all the surrounding Arab nations. Nobody claims Nagba for them. And that's way more than the amount of Palestinians that were displaced. How come you don't talk about that, right? Because they're not victimizing themselves. That's why.

[00:08:10]Do you know who coined the term Nagba?

[00:08:12]Constantine Zerek. He was a doctor, a historian out of Syria who in 1948 wrote a book called the meaning of disaster which is knockbug catastrophe disaster and it was translated in Egypt in 1956.

[00:08:26]You should read it. You can find it online for free. It's only like 80 pages. His version of what the Nakba was had nothing to do with displacement. It had nothing to do with the Jews attacking Arabs. The Napa was actually the catastrophe, the disaster was the fact that the Arabs were acting too weak in his mind. He was super anti-Semitic.

[00:08:44]He hated the Jews. He thought the Arabs, he said that they were leaving instead of staying and fighting the Jews. That's what the Nagba was. It wasn't until like the 1960s when they politicized Palestinianism, when they turned the Nagba into this like event where 750,000 poor Arabs were like kicked out. Notice how you'll never find a book that talks about that or says any of that in 1940s or 50s. It wasn't until the 1960s and on when they had this narrative of the Nagba.

[00:09:13]>> I challenge you to find me something in 1948 or 49 or in the 50s that says anything about the Nagba in that sense.

[00:09:21]>> All right, everyone's >> I mean, but everything in history is written later in time because it's that's when it's written.

[00:09:29]>> That's not true. You're saying history books weren't written in the 1940s or 50s? No, I'm saying but it's written it's not written right then and there.

[00:09:37]>> Yes, it is. It's called a primary source. It's called a primary source.

[00:09:40]It's literally written right then and there.

[00:09:43]>> What are you talking about? What do you think a primary sources?

[00:09:48]>> It's not like I don't think like I don't think like you're getting what I'm saying.

[00:09:52]>> I get what you're saying. It's just >> for everything like >> I'm trying to I'm trying to think how to say it.

[00:10:00]>> So like we're both on the same page.

[00:10:02]>> Hey, how much you weigh?

[00:10:04]>> That's completely off.

[00:10:06]>> Me? I'm 175, >> man. My [ __ ] fat as [ __ ] >> How's 175 fat?

[00:10:12]>> [ __ ] ass ug.

[00:10:14]>> Is this where Arabs start to get aggressive when they're losing the narrative?

[00:10:17]>> I'm not.

[00:10:18]>> Just so you know, I'm not even >> I didn't say you. I'm talking about him.

[00:10:21]I look like >> my whole point like like I said my whole point we could have debates for ages about oh who's the right >> who has the right to live in that place whatever blah blah blah that that doesn't really matter to me what matters mostly is the fact that uh the things that happen all these like war crimes everything that happens to Palestinians and like people just defend like say oh yeah it's just Israel defending itself this is that but the the actual ratio between the deaths killed killed like for the people killed like that were terrorists whatever in uh the IDF's eyes like Hamas or whatever with the women and children and all the innocents like it's a it's a crazy rate and you could say like oh human shields human shields this bro they have the ability to do precise strikes to like hit uh these you know like any like target that >> they are being very precise that's why there's only 70,000 deaths >> only that's >> that includes all terrorists and collaborators that's not 70,000 civilians And also in a population of 2.1 million people in an area that's extremely densely you agree Gaza's very densely populated >> of course >> and you agree Hamas utilize or wears civilian clothing when they fight like when they release their videos of fighting the IDF they're always wearing like t-shirts >> probably because they don't really have that uniform like sometimes >> they do but see here's the problem they do have the uniform because when they released the videos when they released the videos of them releasing the hostages right when they made them they forced them to go on the stage and and humiliate them. They were wearing uniforms then. It's only when they're fighting that they wear civilian clothes. Now, let me ask you, >> sometimes they kind of fight. Yeah. Go ahead.

[00:11:59]>> Why would you purposely choose to wear civilian clothes instead of a tactical gear? Why would you What advantage would it serve to put on a t-shirt and and jeans and sneakers?

[00:12:11]>> You're gonna say blend in with civilians?

[00:12:14]>> I'm just asking you. I mean, yes, of course I'm gonna say that's the only answer. But what do you think? Do you have another answer?

[00:12:19]>> No. The way I see is that clearly like given the you know the circumstances that's happening in Gaza, there are some circum like there's some like uh there like some like times where it's like they don't have the chance to go to the tunnels and then go change this is that. Oh, let me change to my like little fit so I can go bomb this thing.

[00:12:41]Like >> how come it's every video, dude. It's not like it's once in a blue moon. Every video they're wearing civilian clothes.

[00:12:46]>> Every video. But the the thing is it's not like there's some tactical um like team with a billion dollar3 $3 billion like budget where they're like they all >> bro the top the top three Hamas members had well before Israel killed a couple of them but the top three between just those three had 10 to 12 billion dollars between them. That's not even including everyone else. That's just >> was a part of that too. Like a rich guy was just chilling in the >> No, no, no. It wasn't Senoir but he had a lot of money as well. I was actually talking about uh how like a lot of money >> ends up dying like just like a regular guy just throwing a stick like >> he didn't if he had like all those millions and billions of dollars like how everyone claims then he he could have easily like wore something like or like had like better protection is what I mean like better protection >> he did that's why that's how he lasted so long >> he was like target number one and he lasted as long as he did like you act like he >> what do you what do you The reason he threw a stick is cuz he got his hand blown off right before that and he was pretty much all but dead. He would have died anyways, honestly. Even like if all of Israel did was that first shot and then left, he would have died anyways. But he just Yeah, that was that's why he threw a stick. It wasn't because he didn't have any weaponry.

[00:14:02]It's just he couldn't hold it.

[00:14:03]>> Not about the weaponry. I'm saying the position that he was in the whole time that of his death is what I mean.

[00:14:10]>> Yeah. He was running away. He was nowhere near the front lines of the fighting. He was running like a coward.

[00:14:14]He was in tunnels and stuff.

[00:14:16]>> Oh, we're dead.

[00:14:17]>> So, why was he in a tunnel that time? He was in a house.

[00:14:19]>> Oh my god. We're reversing.

[00:14:20]>> Well, no, he ran into the house. So, they came out of the tunnels and they were patrolling and there was two or three guys with him and then they went into one house. Israel shot and fired and he ran into another one and went upstairs and then they shot a tank shell into that one. But nonetheless, it's not really the point. We're going off topic here. My point is is that they have uniforms. They choose not. You say, "I'm saying it's because they're trying to blend in with society." That's the only answer. If you can give me a different reason or a different answer, I'd love to hear it. But I can't think of another reason to wear civilian clothes. And no, it's not because they don't have uniforms. Every single video where they have thousands of them standing in lines, they all have uniforms when they're doing their propaganda videos and stuff, but not when they're fighting.

[00:15:02]And also moving on to like the next point, uh there's also like a lot of footage that >> of you know how whenever everyone claims, okay, Hamas uses human shields, this and that, but that's also kind of the same tactic that uh the IDF uses.

[00:15:15]There's multiple videos out there with them with their uh their big uh vehicles like having like a Palestinian like stretched out in the front with their arms tied >> driving into like >> Okay, so there's there's not multiple videos, there's a few. And they've already answered for that. They said that they were transporting him. There's no room inside of the vehicle. They transported him and then if you keep playing the video, not the cut video of the propaganda. An ambulance picks him up and takes him to a hospital. But you can say they shouldn't have done that. I agree. They probably shouldn't. They should have just let that guy die. I don't really care. But that's what they said they were doing. They were transporting him and they put him on the top of the hood because there was no room inside the vehicle. I agree with you. They should have just let him die there. I don't see why Israel is attempting to help him.

[00:16:00]And also any of those videos where they're uh throwing people off the buildings like a IDF soldier. He's just throwing someone off a building.

[00:16:09]>> Yeah, that guy was dead and he pushed him off and I agree. He shouldn't have done that.

[00:16:15]>> No, he wasn't. There's one video, unless there's some new one. I doubt it, but there's one video where he kind of kicks him. Is that the one you're talking about? Where he uses his foot and pushes him off?

[00:16:24]>> I don't recall. It was like wild.

[00:16:26]>> Okay, that's pretty much that's the one you're talking about. Anyways, um he was dead already. Now, that being said, I agree. He probably he shouldn't have done that. It's not professional.

[00:16:35]When asked about it, they said it's because they didn't want to carry them down and they were still under fire. I again, I'm with you. I would have just left the guy dead on the rooftop. There was no reason to uh push him down. But even though I agree, Israel and the IDF, there's a bunch of 18, 19 year olds.

[00:16:51]They don't always act professional.

[00:16:53]There was IDF soldiers holding up like lingerie for a photo. I don't agree with that. That's awful. But there's a big difference between like, "Oh, look how just terrible they are. It's just a dumbass IDF soldier." Like, yeah, they do dumb things.

[00:17:06]>> I was in the US military for 12 years.

[00:17:08]There was a lot of people in the US military that did dumb [ __ ] But I'm not going to apply it to all of America.

[00:17:14]>> Yeah, but it's kind of applied whenever like you see also remember that big story of uh them raping those inmates or something?

[00:17:23]>> That didn't happen. That was just a lie spread by the pro palies. So that video that you're talking about was released by a leftist general >> Hold on. It's released by a leftist general, attorney general of Israel. She released that video. She even said that she never once claimed anything about rape or anything. She said that they beat him. The rape claim just came on social media by pro Palestinian uh uh accounts. They never once, nobody ever said anything about rape. The video never showed it. In fact, when you look at the video now on social media, a lot of times there's like a blurred image, like the little blur filter. You know, it was the prop palis that added that.

[00:18:04]The original video, it's not blurred at all, and you can see everyone's pants are on. Nobody has their [ __ ] dick out or any broomstick or any of it. The reason they added the blur was because then they can put in the caption, "This video is about rape and you can't prove it otherwise because it's a blur." Just go look at the original video. You can see through the shields and under the legs. Nobody [ __ ] raped anyone. That was just a stupid weird sexualized thing because the Arabs and Muslims are like they make everything so sexual. I feel like that they turned it into rape.

[00:18:34]Nobody ever said that. Even the original plane never said that.

[00:18:40]>> What about the flotella? How they humiliate them and all that stuff >> in international talking?

[00:18:47]>> Yeah, you're allowed to do that per San Remo customary international law. You're actually supposed to do that. It's article 68 of the San Remo naval warfare law. But anyways, uh you're talking about humiliate. You're talking about when Ben Gir saying hatika to them.

[00:19:00]>> Oh wow. I'm how humiliating. Do you still do you think the same thing about Spain? Did you see what Spain did to the flotillaa members?

[00:19:07]>> Yeah.

[00:19:07]>> Yeah. They beat the [ __ ] [ __ ] out of them.

[00:19:09]>> That was a part of uh that wasn't like Spain itself. There was like a >> No, it was Spain. No, it was the Spain milit or sorry police force in the airport.

[00:19:16]>> There was like there was like a part like a section or like I don't know like they were like there's some something up there. Nope. It was Spain. It was the official police force. They beat them with batons. And you're over here saying Israel tortured them because they sang a song to them while they had to, you know, have their handcuff and down on the ground. That is that's torture. But beating them with batons is fine.

[00:19:38]>> I didn't. Did I say that?

[00:19:39]>> Do you think Spain should be dealt with by any means?

[00:19:44]>> Dealt with what? Like what?

[00:19:45]>> Well, when I mentioned Spain, you tried to excuse them. You said no. Well, that was technically uh like you tried to make excuses. Excuse me. No, because I was just trying to I was trying to bring up to the point bring the point up of uh like someone saying that that wasn't the like Spain or something. That's why I was asking you because clearly >> Yeah. Look, I don't I don't I don't think uh I'm not even going to say Israel. Ben Gavir, I think he's a bit of a showbo and I don't think he should have done that simply because people do hold a double standard to Israel and it's just not good PR. However, don't try to exaggerate and say he was torturing them. He sang a song to them.

[00:20:16]But that being said, um yeah, look, do I think it was smart? No. Am I going to put that much thought into it? Not really. Like they It was a 30 secondond video. They went back to their home.

[00:20:27]They got beat in Spain. They got beat in Greece. It's cuz they tried to start problems everywhere they go. That's not the part you're going to see on the video. Why do you think the Gree uh Greece, they got beat there. They got beat in Spain. Uh I think there was another place. I can't remember where else it was. Do you think all these countries are just randomly just like assaulting the flotilla members or is it more likely the flotilla members are trying to egg people on?

[00:20:53]>> Yes.

[00:20:58]>> You're not going to answer that one.

[00:20:59]>> No, like that was just a long point. as if I lowkey kind of >> just my question is is what do you think's more likely that all these different people are assaulting the flotilla members or is it more likely that the flotilla members are just being [ __ ] dicks?

[00:21:14]>> Could probably be mix of both.

[00:21:17]>> No, just finished my base. Much love from Israel and thank you for all you do.

[00:21:21]Thanks, Joseph. Appreciate it. Yeah, look, I don't know what to tell you, dude. Um the flotilla members are not there to give aid to Gaza. They didn't even have aid on their boat. They didn't even have anything on their [ __ ] boats. Like >> what about the aid coming in from like Egypt and stuff when they tried?

[00:21:36]>> Oh yeah, they raided it. The the the settlers, they raided it and like >> that wasn't Egypt. That was on Israel.

[00:21:42]There's no settlers in Egypt. That doesn't even make any sense.

[00:21:45]>> No, that's coming in through Egypt, >> right? How can settlers be there and that's the ones coming in through Egypt.

[00:21:51]Doesn't make sense.

[00:21:52]>> Videos of them.

[00:21:53]>> Yeah. Again, it wasn't Egypt. That was in Israel. And they were arrested, by the way, and stopped and they let the aid go in. Yes, there are people that are criminals. I don't know what to tell you. It's not like Israel is immune from having criminals just like the United States where you live or any other country. It's not like they were government officials or they were acting based off the law. They were doing that because in their mind they thought it wasn't fair to feed Hamas because Hamas was stealing a lot of the aid, which has been proven, by the way. Even the UN admitted to this. And so they destroyed the aid because they were like, "Why are we feeding our enemy?" Not saying I agree or disagree. I'm just simply saying there's context here.

[00:22:31]But uh so like about when you mentioned the hostages, >> right? When when you said uh like uh you well you guys say well the Hamas Hamas members and stuff, right? They release the hostages.

[00:22:45]>> Sure.

[00:22:46]>> When uh when like when there's videos and stuff about Israel like Israel like the IDF and stuff them releasing hostages. Is it like >> IDF doesn't release hostages?

[00:22:58]>> Uh, inmates, prisoners, whatever. Yeah, >> that's what they are. They're terrorists.

[00:23:03]>> Even the ones that like have like cases against them. Like they there's just >> every single one. Every single one of them.

[00:23:10]>> The ones that are held without a case or any like reason. They're just held just because >> they're not held without reason. Admin it's called administrative detention.

[00:23:17]Most countries in the world do it. It's not an Israeli thing. And you have to still prove to the judge why they need to be go to go under administrative detention. So there is a reason. It's just not for public information. And the judges in Israel, by the way, are very left-wing. They're not like Ben Gavir or even BB's or anything like that. So to prove it to them, there's a reason that >> because that's how administrative detention works.

[00:23:41]>> How do I know they're leftwing?

[00:23:43]Like how do you know how the judges that uh that are like that are in Israel and you're saying they're they're like they have to go to the judge and prove that they did something wrong. How do you know?

[00:23:54]>> Yeah, that's how administrative detention works.

[00:23:57]>> Are you saying that they're just not doing it? I mean, you'd have to prove that to me, but if you look up how administrative detention is done in pretty much all countries, Israel is actually even more restrictive. In America, our administrative detention is not it's not free-for-all, but it's not as restrictive as how Israel does it.

[00:24:12]Israel, you have to reapply every I think it is 90 days. So if it's or no, sorry, I think it's 6 months. So if 6 months are in administrative detention, you have to start over and reapply and do the process again uh to keep them going for another 6 months. And a lot of the times it gets denied from there. Uh it how do I know? You can just read about it. It's how I know every anything else. It's you just read about it.

[00:24:38]With that being said, what's your what was your original question about these terrorists?

[00:24:45]>> Which one? Who was point >> your original question? You said that when Israel's releasing the hostages, which are prisoners, what what was the question going to be? What about them?

[00:24:56]>> Like the like there's a bunch of videos and stuff about how the they're treated and all of that. And uh it's just >> like a a bunch of before and after pictures >> and it's just a bunch. Yeah. It's just like >> Yeah. How come they released hundreds and hundreds of them? How come when they released like let's say a hundred just to keep it an easy number? How come we only see one or two that looks way skinnier and they're like why is it do you think Israel >> a whole bunch?

[00:25:23]>> Sure. My question for you right is very simple. How come when they release a group of a hundred how come it's like one or two? It is. every single time there's one or two that's they go in, they get paid to go on these interviews and like Israel, they torture me, they beat me. One of them came out and said that both his hands were broken and then Israel released a video of him using his hands leaving the prison. So obviously they lied about his hands being broken.

[00:25:47]It's Are you claiming that Israel just picks one or two people, every group of a hundred, and decides to just like torture them and beat them and and starve them? Wouldn't they do that to all of them if they had this opportunity? I mean if uh I'm just seeing this video right now like you can just see it's not it's it's not only one perk like obviously that person is >> I didn't say it was only one in like all total but he I know that guy he was released first off he looks fine but that being said he was released >> that looks bro >> so yeah let me tell you let me let me tell you about this guy right it's not just him a lot of these people they go on hunger strikes they do it to protest against Israel so that way they can come out and say Look at them. They starve me. But my question for you is very simple. Look up his name and and find out how many people were released with him. Go ahead, do that.

[00:26:39]>> I'm just showing you the >> No, I got it. You can make videos of stuff. That's called propaganda. Israel can do it, too. Palestine can do it.

[00:26:46]America. Yes, I got it. There's videos.

[00:26:48]>> That doesn't mean anything to me. That doesn't Listen, that doesn't mean anything to me because I don't know the context of it. My question for you is absent of context. I'm saying look up how many people were released with that person that you showed me that was starving, right? And then tell me what the other ones look like. Let's say he was released with 50 people or 100 people or 200. And let's say hypothetically while you look it up, let's say all of them look normal weight and he's the only one that's starving.

[00:27:18]What does that tell you? Use a little bit of critical thinking. Is it possible that he starved himself so he can say, "Look, Israel starved me." Or do you think that Israel just looked they did like eeny meenie miny mo and they're like, "We're going to starve you and give everyone else food." Does that make sense to you? I'm pretty sure that guy I'm pretty sure that guy >> Relax. I'm pretty sure that first guy with the gray shirt, I'm pretty sure he had cancer.

[00:27:44]>> Wait, >> I'm going to try to look him up.

[00:27:46]>> What about Hendra?

[00:27:48]>> What about her? about whenever there was like a 300 plus bullets shot at her. Uh >> 355 it's fake. Yeah, it's fake. But I want to I want to Okay, whatever. We'll put that aside cuz I like to talk about Henrajab. Let me ask you something.

[00:28:04]Okay. About Hindra. Let's say it's real.

[00:28:06]Even though no body was produced, no blood, no evidence, no nothing. Let's just pretend it's real. Let's just hypothetically for a second. Where was Hrajab when she was killed? And when was she killed?

[00:28:17]>> Okay, >> I'm asking you. Barely >> not sure.

[00:28:21]>> Give me a little speed boost.

[00:28:22]>> I like it how you guys pretend you care about these Palestinians, but you like know less than I do about them. Okay, so she was killed on January 29, 2024, and she was killed in the Altawa uh neighborhood, which is in Gaza City.

[00:28:33]Okay, you know where Gaza City is?

[00:28:36]>> He's gazill [ __ ] >> Jesus [ __ ] Christ, dude. No. Oh, bro.

[00:28:47]Like he has this idea that every like the every Palestinian Arab are like like aggressive. You're you're helping you're feeding his idea.

[00:28:56]>> You're feeding his idea. But because none no one is like that. There's just people that just want to act like that because they just want to act like that.

[00:29:04]We're trying to understand where he's coming from and whatever.

[00:29:07]>> That's what I'm saying. He's not changing his mind.

[00:29:12]>> Anyways, Henry is in Gaza City. Okay, Gaza City was declared a red zone right after October 7th. All right, there's a difference between all of Gaza was a red zone, the Gaza Strip, but there's or sorry, a war zone, but then the red zones are the areas that were supposed to be immediately evacuated. She was killed. So, it's October, November, December, January, 3 months, almost four months after in Gaza City. Do you know if she was with her parents or not? Did >> you see that?

[00:29:37]>> Uh did she say that she was in the call?

[00:29:39]Like she was saying uh >> yeah, she wasn't with her parents. Her parents supposedly, according to some Palestinians, they had left prior to. My question for you, I don't know if you guys are parents or not. You look pretty young. But if you were, would you leave your six-year-old daughter in a red zone while you leave and go somewhere else?

[00:30:00]>> No. Where was she though? I mean, but that's >> She was in Gaza City >> in a car.

[00:30:04]>> She's in a car and got Well, again, assuming the the story is correct, I don't believe the story at all. And I I'll get to that in a second and I'll tell you why I don't believe it. But >> that being said, the car, right, Hamas utilizes civilian cars. Do you agree?

[00:30:20]Like when the the ceasefire went, they were driving out in Hyundai's Hyundai and and trucks and all that.

[00:30:26]>> So yes, even if the story is correct, which it kept changing. First they said she got killed by an air strike and then Israel came out and said, "We didn't even do air strikes in the area." The whole world was like, "Israel is lying."

[00:30:36]And then it came out, no, they actually didn't do any air strikes. And then they came out says she was they were killed um they as in Hendrajab and her whatever I think it was her cousin maybe or uncles. Anyways, they were killed by an assault rifle or armalite really. And then it came out that she was killed by a tank. Okay. By the the mounted gun on the tank. Mounted gun on a tank is a 50 caliber bullet. I don't know if you know what a 50 caliber is. It's a very very big bullet.

[00:31:04]>> Humongous.

[00:31:05]>> 355 bullets. Even if even if 10% of those hit uh Hind Rajab, she wouldn't exist. Those bullets would rip through a it would rip through an adult male's body, but a six-year-old, she would be liquefied. Now, I want you guys to do me a favor. Look up the car. Look up Hindrajab car.

[00:31:23]>> Doesn't look like a 50 cal.

[00:31:25]>> Not just that, tell me if you see any blood in the car at all. Any blood, even a drop. If you just Google Hindraab car, you'll see the picture that they took.

[00:31:33]>> There's no blood at all. How do you explain that? There were supposedly like three or four plus people. I don't remember the exact amount of people that were in the car that all were killed.

[00:31:42]>> Not a drop of blood. I just like I think that's insane. And on top of that, she was killed on January 29th. The vehicle wasn't found until I think either February 10th or February 14th. I can't remember. I think it was February 10th.

[00:31:55]>> So the the the se the vehicle was just sitting there including two paramedics.

[00:31:59]Uh the ambulance, right, that they said >> that footage. What about that footage?

[00:32:02]>> There is no footage of it.

[00:32:04]>> Right. Right? That's the point is that the it wasn't found until 2 weeks later, about 2 weeks later. When you look at the satellite imagery 2 days before they found it, there's no car. There's no ambulance. So she they were killed on January 29th. They were found on February 10th. On February 8th's satellite imagery, there's no vehicles there at all. And then all of a sudden on February 10th, they magically find this vehicle. And like I said, look at the picture, right? Let's look it up here.

[00:32:31]>> Look it up cuz my phone just died.

[00:32:32]>> Yeah, I'll look it up. We don't have We don't have We only have one charge.

[00:32:37]>> Here's the photo. Do you see? I mean, I know it's probably a little hard to see, but there's no blood anywhere at all.

[00:32:45]>> So, where is she, though?

[00:32:47]>> We don't know. They never produced a body. They never produced anything. They just said this happened. And then they came out with this recording of the scared girl, which I I just think Hamas just recorded it after so that way they can make the story real. They never showed a body. They never showed any evidence. They showed the photo, no blood at all. Nothing. I I can't imagine how there'd be no blood.

[00:33:11]>> And the the footage of like the, you know, the the GoPro footage or something of the the paramedics when they arrived with clear like ambulance, you know.

[00:33:20]>> I think you might be confusing this with a different video.

[00:33:24]>> Did they show Hendra in that?

[00:33:26]>> No, not I don't I don't think it's that one. I don't know. I don't think it's linked with that one. It was a >> Is that the one at night? Yeah, the one at night and they were getting shot.

[00:33:33]>> That's not the Hindra one. That was a different >> Yeah. No, like but like there's stuff like that like okay uh oh Hamas this Hamas that but there was like clear ambulance with personnel with like and they not I think they notified Israel they were going there too.

[00:33:49]>> I think what you're talking about is one where they get out and they start walking and then all of a sudden there's gunfire and then the phone falls and you can't actually see what happened. Is that the one? Mhm.

[00:34:02]>> Yeah. So, Hamas has multiple times, and this is also confirmed, in fact, Egypt actually confirmed this once, that they've utilized ambulances. There was a time where one of Hamas's leaders tried to escape into Egypt in an ambulance, and Egypt caught him and turned the ambulance away back into Gaza. Now, that being said, I don't think those guys were actually Hamas. What I'm trying to say is that Hamas unfortunately does utilize things like ambulances and it's possible that an IDF soldier does make a mistake and ends up killing people who are not Hamas because they think this kind of stuff happens.

[00:34:36]>> There's no >> I'm not saying that's exactly what happened, but I'm saying that the IDF has made mistakes like that before because nothing's perfect.

[00:34:43]>> But there's no system.

[00:34:45]>> That was wrong, right?

[00:34:47]>> Yeah, it's wrong. War is wrong. I'm I'm against war. That's why you don't start war, especially against a people that are way stronger than you. I mean, we can agree Israel is much stronger than Hamas and PI and all the freedom fighters in Gaza.

[00:35:01]>> War is always going to have innocents die. That's why it's better not to be in war.

[00:35:06]>> Oh, >> but um so how did the >> as of like the Palestinian people, how did it go from a whole land just to a small strip like uh Gaza? When was it Palestinians people's like when when was it their land?

[00:35:22]>> So when did it >> talking about whenever it was controlled by the Ottoman?

[00:35:26]>> Okay. The Ottomans were Turks.

[00:35:29]>> Mhm.

[00:35:30]>> So do you think it was Palest of like not like the labeling is not what matters. What matters is the people.

[00:35:38]>> The people that are living in the in the land. So, it's like it's like asking, you know, uh >> I get what you're saying, but that that's not First off, Israel, the Jews.

[00:35:48]The Jews didn't go there.

[00:35:50]>> Well, I mean, we let you like finish all your all your points and stuff.

[00:35:55]>> I thought you asked the question. My bad. Go ahead.

[00:35:57]>> I was Yeah, I wasn't. The the question was finished, but uh Thank you. Um so, >> um where was that? Oh, so I was saying as if so this is kind of like what what it is. So there was the the Palestinians under the Ottoman Empire Ottoman Empire because uh that's what uh you guys like a lot of people like to say since it's not wasn't called Palestine but um >> right >> you know that's that's what >> they called item but yeah go ahead.

[00:36:31]Oh [ __ ] >> All right. But um so as if like there was people living there, correct?

[00:36:41]>> Yeah, there were well mostly in the north, but yes, there were people living there >> before every before Israel became its like its state.

[00:36:50]>> There were people that are native to that land and that are living there.

[00:36:53]Correct.

[00:36:54]>> Yeah. So >> including Jews, but yeah, Arabs, Jews, >> we obviously obviously we have no problem with Jews. The Jews is not the problem.

[00:37:05]>> I I I believe you. I I wouldn't say that about necessarily everyone, but I believe you.

[00:37:12]>> Yeah. I mean, >> because like for example, Jamal >> Husseini doesn't agree with everyone.

[00:37:16]Well, no, but like the leaders at the time like Jamal Husini, he was the leader of the Arab delegation and November 25th, 1947, he told the UN, "We will fight till the last Arab to ensure there never will be a Jewish state. Not Israel, not Zionist." He said Jewish.

[00:37:31]So, and this isn't a random guy uh Hajamin Al Husseini who was the religious leader for the Muslims in Palestine during the British mandate. He specifically called to exterminate all Jews and he actually was allies with Hitler and he wanted to bring the final solution there. So I I believe you or I'm going to choose to believe you but let's not pretend that this is not a common thing with the leaders of the Palestinians even though they didn't call themselves the time.

[00:37:57]>> There was a ton of Jews living in Palestine throughout all of history. It was always the uh there was Jews, there was Christians, there were there were Muslims >> in Palestine throughout all history.

[00:38:11]>> Muslims are only 1400 years old, but Okay. Yeah.

[00:38:14]>> I'm saying as if like right back I mean you're not really getting a >> I got you. I got you. 638 and on Muslims were in that region. That's true.

[00:38:23]>> So what um >> so like so when say he said he says that, right? How like there are Jewish >> people living in the state.

[00:38:36]>> How like what makes >> like I I don't know where this like idea of like >> like Muslims I don't know like why everyone always has Muslim Muslim Muslim uh Palestine is was always made up of Christians, Jews and Muslims.

[00:38:52]>> So there's a lot of Christians in Palestine as you can see there's a lot of videos showing Christians in Palestine. And then there's also there always been a lot of Jews. So how are you like how are you saying that like we won't accept Jews if there's already a lot of Jews living in the state?

[00:39:08]>> Like when you were saying like oh we don't want to accept the people coming from uh from the war after um >> after what was it called?

[00:39:21]>> Holocaust.

[00:39:22]>> What was it called?

[00:39:25]>> The Holocaust. after the Holocaust they were coming in. You're saying they were coming in from uh to into Palestine and we were saying right that we were not accepting them in.

[00:39:35]>> They weren't they there was Have you ever heard of the the third Jaffa or the Jaffa riots and the Arab revolt 1936 to39 which was even before the Holocaust. That revolt was them revoling against the British and also revoling to not have Jews in the land. 1929 Arabs went into Hebrron. You know where Hebron is?

[00:39:53]>> Hebron. Yes, we do.

[00:39:55]>> Okay. In 1929, Arabs went into Hebrron into a hostel which was built by Jews to create peace with the Arabs. It was allowed for Arabs and Jews to live there. And they were living there together. The Arabs went in in 1929 and massacred 67 women, children, and men while they were sleeping. That was in 1929. That's before the Holocaust. Also, the the SWAT riots. They even went to an anti-Zionist Jewish community. They were anti-Zionist. They went there and slaughtered them as well. So, you can't even say it's because of Zionism. Again, I believe you. But with these people, if it was about Zionism, why did they go to the anti-Zionist Jews and slaughter them as well?

[00:40:33]>> When When did this happen?

[00:40:35]>> That was that specific was in 1929. You can look it up. It's called the 1929 uh Hebrron massacre. It was at Bet Hadasa is what it's called. And it's still the building's still there today, but that's where the massacre I was just there actually a couple weeks ago.

[00:40:49]I mean, I just uh >> I mean, I looked it up right now. The 1929 Hebrron massacre. It says on August 20 23rd to -24th, 1929, fueled by false rum uh false rumors that Jews were taking over taking over the Temple Mount Jerusalem. Violent Arabs uh mob attack long-standing Jewish communities in Hebron. Approximately 67 to 69 Jews were killed, including women and children.

[00:41:21]>> So, I mean, if if I'm you told me I mean, you're you're saying I should look this stuff up.

[00:41:25]>> Yeah. No, that's it. That's the one.

[00:41:27]>> So, I'm looking this stuff up and I'm getting saying fueled by a false rumor, >> right? They lied about the Jews. They said the Jews were going to take over the Temple Mount, which is the Jews holiest spot in the world, and they use that as an excuse to slaughter the Jews.

[00:41:46]You can look up the Arab Congress in 1920 as well. They literally talk about how they opposed Jewish migration. This was even before the Holocaust.

[00:41:56]>> But is this showing that it's strictly just Jewish?

[00:42:00]>> Yes.

[00:42:00]>> People, >> they said Jews. They didn't say like only those that are Zionist or No, it was Jews.

[00:42:06]>> Oh, what was it called again?

[00:42:08]>> It was the I think it was in 1920 the Arab Congress.

[00:42:12]>> I'm dead.

[00:42:13]>> 19 20 Arab Congress.

[00:42:20]>> Congress >> Congress and what >> in it up it's um >> wait they're on >> it was in 1920 sometimes it's called the Syrian Arab Congress but it was a broad coalition of Arab nationalists from Lebanon, Palestine and Syria. Well, it was called the Arab Kingdom of Syria because back then Syria included in their mind all of what is today Syria, Lebanon, and Palestine. In fact, in 1919, there was something called the King Crane Commission, which was a polling apparatus where they actually asked all the Syrians, "What do you want to see in this land?" 80.4% 80.4% of them said that they wanted a unified Syria, which would have been Palestine, Lebanon, and Syria as one.

[00:43:05]Only six of them, not 6%, six total said that they wanted to see Palestine as just its own like state.

[00:43:17]>> I mean, yeah, that's what I mean. That's basically what we call which is like the like in Arabic it's called which is like those which are consist or like you say.

[00:43:27]>> Yeah. No, I know. I know what it is.

[00:43:29]Yeah.

[00:43:29]>> It's like the just consisting of those three countries, >> right? I know what it is. I've read the I've read all of Sahi Albagari and Sahi Muslim and other other Hadith books and it talks about it in Islam and I've studied Sunna and I've read the Quran twice and yeah I got it.

[00:43:52]>> Yeah. So there's the Syrian Arab Congress March 1920 and also the third Palestine Arab Congress in Hifa in December 1920. Both of them, both of those Congress said that they rejected Jewish migration in Palestine and in Syria.

[00:44:06]>> What was the Palestinian one?

[00:44:08]>> That one was in December 1920. It was called the third Palestine Arab Congress. It was Palestinian nationalist leaders gathered independently in Hifa.

[00:44:17]Stopping Jewish immigration was a central tenant of their platform.

[00:44:22]>> Uh so I just looked it up. It says during the third pal uh Palestine Arab Congress delegates issued specific uh political demands, delivered opening speeches and displayed public uh declarations. This this consesses of what was of what was officially stated and resolved focus heavily on Arab sovereignty and complete rejection of Zionist amun uh ambitions.

[00:44:53]So, like you said, they want they didn't want Jews. But >> you did. It says it in there. It says Jewish migration. You actually read it.

[00:45:00]>> I don't know what you're using right now. If it's like AI, but just ask it.

[00:45:03]Did they reject Jewish migration? Not Zion is just Jewish.

[00:45:09]>> And I promise you, it'll tell you yes.

[00:45:12]Posted an independent Palestine within a united Syrian state, denounced Zionism, and demanded an end to Jewish immigration.

[00:45:22]So yes, I agree. They denounce Zionism, but if you keep reading, they specifically talk about Jewish immigration.

[00:45:28]>> I mean, but like a lot of the stuff like that we basically talked about. It's like >> some stuff are left and stuff like some stuff like you you highlight and then some stuff you just throw away.

[00:45:39]>> No, it's not about throwing it away. I can't I can't >> doesn't make sense. Obviously, I'm not going to be able to mention every single thing. I brought that up because it's in relation to what we were talking about.

[00:45:49]It's not that I'm throwing it away. It's just it wasn't related to what we were talking about. We were talking about their resistance and opposition to Jewish immigration. So I said, "Hey, just so you know, they did this, this, and this, and they said this, this, and that."

[00:46:04]>> So, it's not about throwing anything away.

[00:46:05]>> Oh, >> yeah. I had to figure out International.

[00:46:09]>> Oh, yeah. Yeah. All right. I got to let my guest leave. It was good meeting you.

[00:46:14]>> Have a good one.

[00:46:15]>> Have a good one.

[00:46:16]>> Whoa. What's that flag in the back?

[00:46:17]>> I see I see that flag in the back, bro.

[00:46:19]>> All right. I got to let my guests leave.

[00:46:21]It was good meeting you.

[00:46:22]>> Have a good one.