A debtor can successfully defend against a debt collection lawsuit by demanding proof that the creditor has standing to sue, which requires demonstrating a complete chain of title showing the debt was properly transferred through any merger or assignment. When creditors cannot provide adequate documentation proving they own the debt, courts may dismiss the case with prejudice. This strategy involves persistently requesting validation documents, merger proof, and original creditor records while using legal deadlines and court procedures to pressure the creditor into revealing their lack of proper ownership documentation.
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Hey, Brian Park here coming at you with a new video. This one is an oldie but goodie. I've done a couple of Cap One Discover Bank videos. It's called that because Cap One is suing Discover Bank people, card holders, claiming that they have the right to pursue the Discover Bank card holders because the companies merged, but they don't provide adequate proof of that merger to sue, to have an interest in the lawsuit, to have standing to sue card holders, and also they have to show proof of the debt of the person they're suing changing and traveling with the merger, if that merger actually happened, and [music] the documents that they add to their complaint are wholly inadequate.
But you got to be in it to win it. So this is a story of a member of killdebt.com that used Parker GPT to win his Discover Cap One lawsuit. And he did it he did it by being a nudge. What do I mean?
He didn't give up.
Um showing up is half the battle. It's actually it's >> [music] >> the whole battle. And he kept peppering them with the same single demand that they prove that the merger happened and his debt traveled with that merger, and they have standing, prove they have standing to sue him, and he did not let up. So this is his story. But cool thing about some stories is you don't have to wait for the end of the video or the movie. Here's the ending. Shazam!
And that is the ending of his case. You can see it's a judgment for defendant, and the judge has said that this case is dismissed with prejudice, which means it cannot be brought again.
A lot of the times these cases are dismissed when the other side gets flustered cuz you pepper them with so much and they'll dismiss without prejudice, but here the judge did it.
And why? Because at the end Discover Bank or whoever it is refused to show up. In fact, even the judge I think didn't believe that Cap One owned the debt because as you can see, he put the name of the bank as Discover Bank well after Cap One said they merged with that company. So, this is a big win. It's a multi-billion dollar bank with a whole law firm on its side that simply walked away from a man who defended himself with Parker GPT and did not need a lawyer. In fact, when he went to a lawyer, a bankruptcy attorney, you're going to find out why, the bankruptcy attorney said, "Yeah, I'll help you out for $4,000."
He was already in a dire straits as most people that are going to bankruptcy attorneys are, so he couldn't afford it. So, he plunked down a fraction of that cost with Parker GPT and he won his case by being a nudge. So, a little background. So, I'm not going to give you the the member's name. He hasn't given me permission to do that, but he wants the story out there and part of his information that he sent to me, he used the cheat sheets on uh Parker GPT. He'd have an event, I'm just telling you what he told me. I'll I'll put up uh here. Here's his narration that he sent to me. Shazam, "My story starts 36 years ago. My sister went into personal debt 30 years ago.
She had four young children, her restaurant went bankrupt, her house and car was repossessed. The credit agencies were calling multiple times a day.
My sister had a nervous breakdown. To this day, she has not fully recovered.
For me, that collection is personal.
I was in good financial state until 3 years ago when a hurricane Ian made landfall at my office. I lost everything. But not to worry, my credit card jacked my rate from 3% to 30%.
When I asked for verification of the debt, they wouldn't couldn't supply me with the legal documents that would justify increasing my balance to almost $20,000.
They then turned the account over to collection agencies who also would not verify the account. The credit agency then gave my account to Discover Capital One who sued me. I sent them certified letters at least three times asking them to provide documentation required by the FDCPA.
My letter stated exactly what was required under the statute. Instead of admitting they didn't have the documentation and they lack standing to sue me, I had to challenge them by using Parker GPT artificial intelligence to produce the actual documentation to file counter motions. I was compelled to show up three times for meetings. I was ordered into non-binding mediation using Parker GPT >> [music] >> cheat sheets. I was 100% prepared for the one question that was asked in this informal setting. After the 5-minute mediation meeting, Capital One simply quit responding to certified letters and did not up at the show up at the docket and pre-trial conferences. The lawsuit was dropped with prejudice. Even though Capital One did not have standing to sue me, they asked the judge for a summary judgment which was denied.
This he This is he's saying, "This is a racket. When I first When I was first served, I talked to different bankruptcy attorney bankruptcy attorneys who told me to declare bankruptcy cuz there was no way I could win.
The attorney fee was $4,000.
I like Parker GPT much more.
One time you went to a mediation, the the judge was getting upset with the response of um Cap 1 / Discover Bank and sent the case to mediation and they didn't do anything. But when he went, he took a Parker GPT cheat sheet. And the one tough question came in, he answered it with the Parker GPT cheat sheet, which is available to anybody on uh killdebt.com.
And he w- skated right through mediation to the point where he is today, which is he's a He owed almost $20,000. I'll show you the complaint. He no longer owes a dime.
So, this is about, let's call him Dave.
He wanted me to tell you that this is very personal to him. Hurricane Ian Ian made landfall right on his office. It put him out of business for 4 months.
So, he filed his insurance claim and while the company >> [music] >> insurance company delayed things, in Florida, a lot of hurricanes come through and it takes a while for the insurance to take care of people. And while that delay was happening, his credit card companies were knocking on his door even though he has no income coming in cuz his business got flattened and Discover Bank was sending his debt to different collection agencies. So, he did what one does. You send a thing to them saying, "Okay, I'm in dire straits, but who the heck are you and why are you pursuing me?" And he started sending them letters. They responded not with a a response to his validation or verification letters, but with this.
Shazam! And that's a complaint from Discover Bank. So, that's before the merger happened and it's a simple lawsuit that I see every day in Florida.
It's really not specific and it points to documents that >> [music] >> really don't exist at least as far as the complaint is concerned, but you can see that they've alleged just two they didn't do breach of contract which is interesting. They did account stated and then they did an unjust enrichment which is usually a throwaway, but they're seeking 19,000 >> [music] >> and 46,000 and 7 cents. So he as I said tried to go through bankruptcy as these debts started coming in and it was just too expensive for him. So he used Parker GPT and went on in on his own, but you're not alone with Parker GPT where it's right there with you. And he started sending certified letters to the law firm and Discover and they just would not respond. They even titled one of the letters prove the merger.
Merge the debt. So he was looking to see it's real easy and I'll show you how easy it is to say, "Hey court, I'm Cap One and yeah, you trust us we merged with Discover Bank. In fact, this is the letter they sent. Shazam."
And that's a very common letter. You've seen it in my Cap One Discover Bank merger videos before. Put up a couple of the videos I I've already done.
And it says the letter is the official certification of the comptroller of the currency to merge Discover Bank, Greenwood, Delaware with and into Capital One effective May 18th. The resulting bank title is Cap One.
If the combination does not occur as represented in your correspondence of May 7th, this certification must be returned to the OCC. Meaning they have to prove that the merger happened with certain documents. So you're seeing a letter attached to lawsuits that really doesn't mean anything. And it it's conditional, meaning certain things have to happen for the proof to show that it occurred that these [music] two entities merged. But this gentleman went deeper and said, "Hey, show me that my debt was part of the merger." Which obviously they did. No, I'm kidding. They never did. And as I said at the end, he went into the court file itself and he used what he learned from Parker GPT to build documents. He created his own motions.
He actually ended up asking for the court to dismiss the whole case against him.
They had responded to his answers and his constant demands for just for they meet their burden of proof. They'd filed a motion for summary disposition against him with that letter I just showed you as the only real proof of the merger. So, in order to sue someone, you must have standing. So, this is a creditor lawsuit, but it has the shine of a a debt by lawsuit. Why? Because it's by definition Cap One bought a debt from Discover and is now claiming to own it.
It's just a chain of title defense which this member went all in and just peppered them with demands that they prove his debt went with the merger. So, I That's what I want you to do in these situations.
And I will show you what the letter one of the letters and he used it as a court document also. When I say he, the member. Here's the letter, Shazam. And request valid for validation and proof of ownership of my Discover debt by Cap One. Keep it simple, stupid, meaning just ask what you want. Don't make it complicated. Lawyers, law firms, legalese, you can lose the message. I like to make it simple. And he simply did. I'm writing in response to your recent communication regarding alleged debt that you claim is owed to Capital One. The account you reference appears to have originated with Discover Bank, not Capital One. I dispute the validity.
Please prove it. The letter serves as a formal dispute and that's important under several statutes.
Um Proof of ownership, chain of title showing my specific debt and account number being transferred in the assignment or the merger. A complete and unbroken chain of a title of a chain of assignments from Discover Bank to Capital One including all bills of sale, assignments, transfer agreements, and purchase and sale agreements. So >> [music] >> he also went into the securitization securitization disclosures. You can see he's asking for the pooling and service agreement. That's very important.
And he's looking for the original creditor documents. One of the reasons why you do that is because just as in a debt buyer case >> [music] >> the new entity that shows up never has the right documents or the original documents, but you have a a legal right to ask for that. And ask he did and they never responded. But that is the move.
And after they filed a motion >> [music] >> to dismiss against him, he filed his own motion to dismiss against them. In fact, I'll give you a list of everything that's attached to this document. So attached to this video and killdebt.com will be the documents used in this case.
So you'll have Let's put it up.
Plaintiff Discover's [music] Bank complaint. You can take a look at their complaint. It's going to look like yours. Plaintiff Discover's motion for summary judgment. I'm going to go in and do the work and blot out the important stuff, but I'll put up their motion for summary. It may look like one against you.
The debtor's response to plaintiff's motion for summary judgment.
Defendant's, that's our member, own motion for summary judgment.
Defendant's motion for inadequate response to verification. So, he made up his own He made up his own motion titled inadequate response to verification against plaintiff. He didn't [music] lay off the gas pedal. Just pressed it hard. The way I look at it, he was standing up on it and just trying to roll over Cap One, and he also kept noticing the court as to what he was doing, and I will show you how right now. This is significant.
I just love this.
Shazam. So, when you have a lawsuit, when you have a you suspect a case is coming your way, check your county or circuit or district court docket. And that's what it looks like, at least in the county that this member was in, and you can see all the work that was done.
If you start around uh number 14, he starts peppering with validation, cease and desist. Motion for summary, that's their motion. Then motion Defendant's motion to reopen discovery.
>> [laughter] >> Defendant's response in opposition to plaintiff's plaintiff's motion for summary judgment, and you can see that the plaintiff is no longer listing any of its own documents or requests cuz they stopped. And they eventually got sick of him.
You can see affidavit regarding inadequate verification, and the court is going along with this. Mediator's report, and then the final judgment, which is the win that I showed you. So, attached this video inside killdebt.com will be all of those documents I just mentioned along with my show notes.
So, as I was telling you, when he eventually got ordered to mediation and the other side did, he went to Parker GPT and we got a cheat sheet. So, for anything that you're going to, if it's just a pre-trial or motion for summary or a court has ordered you to go to mediation, just ask for a cheat sheet based on your documents.
So, and that's what this member did and it was just part of the nudginess of bombardment that he kept doing to both Cap One and notifying the court what he was doing. In fact, then he filed a request for production of documents and I'll give you a couple of pages. He's keying in on that standing issue I talked about, ownership, standing and securitization documents. Request number one, all documents evidencing Cap One's current ownership, right and title and right to collect the debt alleged in the complaint. Plain and simple and he just went from there.
You can go to the second page.
Account and debt verification documents.
All documents evidencing the original debt including the original account opening documentation, card holder agreement. He's >> [music] >> he can easily request and they can easily produce the actual document he signed and he is looking for proof. If they're going to come in and say he breached some conditions and terms of the agreement, they've got to show the agreement. They eventually just gave up.
They didn't answer discovery. They didn't answer his motion. They just stopped showing up. And the judge had had enough. So, you can see a document there. Let's go back to the court doc again. Look at the top there, 35 down to 27 to 26. You can see court minutes.
>> [snorts] >> Court minutes, court minutes. The judge started, I guess, recording exactly what was going on and that's kind of nice. I I really don't see that in any of the other jurisdiction. Everything you want to know about this case, you can just click on the document and it shows up.
>> [music] >> And eventually the court had had enough with Cap One not doing the work. By the way, you keep doing the work as this member did, you are going to win your case. So, here are five lessons that you should take from this video today. Never Number one, never ignore the lawsuit. Doing nothing is how you lose. Use Parker GBT and it does the whole thing for you in minutes.
So, again, as I've said, being an attorney, I love it. I I mean, I'm a little guy that got to even the playing field for people that I think are just like me. I was in the same situation and now I represent people like that. And but the drudgery of the job is the grunt work. It takes hours to do stuff you put off for days. Not with Parker GBT, >> [music] >> what used to take 5 hours I do in 5 to 10 minutes. It takes me longer to check my work before I file it than actually creating the document.
Make them prove everything. This guy did not give up on being a noodge.
Here's the definition of noodge, Shazam.
And >> [music] >> he kept asking for proof of ownership.
To sue someone, you must have standing.
They never did prove they had the right to pursue him. Because, as far as I know, they don't have it. I've yet to see a document that says ABC Debtors debt merge from Discover Bank to Cap One. Make them prove it. Don't accept a form letter as proof. Even that letter that looked official and from the official comptroller of the government said the merger is conditional. And that that's not proof of a merger.
Use the rules. Written responses, discovery requests, motions are not just for lawyers.
>> [music] >> Deadlines cut both ways. So, a lot of times you see me in videos go, "Hey, they sent a lot of discovery, 60 days have passed and they ignored it." Well, most states, you've got to respond discovery in 30 days. So, >> [music] >> use the deadlines against them cuz if you don't show up, they'll definitely use it against you. And showing up is half the battle.
>> [music] >> Every hearing, every motion, even that mediation, and take along the cheat sheet, and you will be in the best position to prepare because preparation beats panic. So, if you get sued, have your 5-minute pity party, now preparation and Parker GPT is the number one preparation. And it's for a fraction of the cost of what you'd have to plonk down to an attorney. As I said earlier, a bankruptcy attorney said, "Yeah, I'll take your case for $4,000." Guess what this member just saved himself. Well, he just saved himself $20,000 cuz the whole $20,000 just went away.
You are not alone if you use Parker GPT.
So, for years, I've sadly had people come to me that have judgments, old judgments, and I say, "Oh, how did you get to this situation?" Well, I couldn't afford an attorney, so I just put my head in the sand, and now they're dealing with the judgment for 10 or 20 years.
Well, now there's an alternative, and I really mean that. Parker GPT is the new way to law. It really is.
Check it out. Go to killdebt.com. We've got it all. We've got court tester.
We've got the cheat sheets. We've got the securitization tab. There's just a ton of stuff on there.
And you are not alone.
Fight these guys the same way this member fought them. Fight to win.
Thank you.
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