RUMOR: One PG Is Reportedly Ducking Jeremy Fears In Workouts As He Trends Toward The Late 1st Round!

Added: 2026-05-21

[00:00:00]Carr, what day is this of the Jeremy Fears NBA decision saga?

[00:00:07]>> Let's see. Season ended this day. Today is 20th.

[00:00:13]Six more days until it feels like day 49 if I had to put a number on it. But let's go ahead and go. Or maybe 47. We have I don't know why the number 47 is coming to mind, but maybe day 47.

[00:00:24]>> I feel like it's only been like two good weeks of the saga here since the combine, maybe. But like it feels like a full season of Survivor is playing out.

[00:00:34]Like we're still >> Oh, you're talking about You're talking about hashtag the saga.

[00:00:37]>> Yeah. Like we're we're down to like the final six of the season of Jeremy Fears Survivor and I might get voted out after this video. I don't know. Let's see what happens. Um we almost made it without any like new twists in a 24-hour span.

[00:00:53]You and J man did the whole channel today. I was golfing and then you sent me this and you were like, I think we should do a video on it. So now here I am post golf to continue the saga. This time it is uh friend of the program. I hope we can still call him that. Ray Fel. Love Ray Fel. He does amazing work for Big 10 Network. Um he is getting real vocal here on behalf of Jeremy Fears Rising Stock in the NBA draft. I want to read you two tweets from Ray Fal. both came through last night while I was at birthday dinner with my wife.

[00:01:25]Ray Fel tweets this. According to a source, Jeremy Fierce Jr. has participated in three private NBA workouts, excelling in two. His IQ and control of pace have impressed scouts with more workouts scheduled. It seems Jeremy could be a late first to early second round pick if he opts for the NBA draft.

[00:01:47]Minutes after that tweet, Rafel shared this. One of my guys told me there's a certain point guards agent that is doing everything in their power to quote, "Stay away from working out with Fierce Jr."

[00:02:04]Crying emoji and then a Kobe gif where Kobe shakes his head and says soft.

[00:02:13]Okay. Uh, I forget where you last left off in this convo. I think you and J man have done like should he go, should he not, his dad's tweets. Yeah.

[00:02:23]>> Yeah. Yeah.

[00:02:24]>> And then me and Dion yesterday weighed in on what I think is actually going on here. This element of Ray Fel, who works for Big 10 Network, among all of the amazing things Ray Fel does, taking a very vocal stance on what he's hearing with Jeremy Fears here. How much stock do you put in to the reports that Ray Fel is sharing?

[00:02:46]>> Um, I mean, I I don't have any reason to put any or not have or not take any stock in it. I mean, look, I think that Ray Fel this whole year has been one of the bigger advocates for Jeremy Fierce Jr. throughout the whole season. Like no matter what's been going on, how the play's been going, he has advocated that Jeremy Fierce Jr. is if not the best one of the best point guards in the country and one of the best if not the best point guard in the Big 10. He has been standing firm on that for a while now.

[00:03:16]And you know what? I think this is furthermore just pushing the fact that he is a Jeremy Fierce Jr. guy. And you know what? I think that he he is probably an advocate or not probably he's an advocate that Jeremy Fierce Jr. should be a first round and be a draft pick. Whether whether he's actually hearing things about that, whether there is something else that is pushing for that, I personally have not seen him mocked anywhere higher than 47th, I think, on any mock draft that I've looked at. But who knows what he knows that maybe we don't. But I think that he thinks Jeremy Fears Jr. is a firstround NBA draft pick. I think there's other people uh mainly close to Jeremy Fierce that think he's a first round NBA draft pick and also Fierce himself probably thinks he's a firstround NBA draft pick. So um I guess to the point of where all this is coming from, I would just say that I think there's not probably a bigger Jeremy Fierce Jr. fan than Ray Davis.

[00:04:18]>> I mean I'd like to think Michigan State fans are as big of Jeremy Fierce Jr.

[00:04:22]fans as Ray Fel. Yeah, maybe maybe outside of Michigan State fans.

[00:04:26]>> Okay, fair. Okay. Uh yeah, that all tracks. That's well known. He's been a huge fan. And also Rael has been right about Jeremy Fears pretty much every step of the way here. Uh I do believe my interpretation of their relationship is it goes way back like to prep days and Ray Fell is close with the Fierce family. So I can't knock that. if he is uh sort of just campaigning for his guy here, I fully support that. And if it's all about belief, I I fully support that. You uh how' you just word that? You said if there's really a source saying that he's a first round pick or if this is just campaigning. Is that what you said?

[00:05:09]>> Yeah. What does that mean?

[00:05:10]>> Or or who's that source?

[00:05:13]WELL, THAT'S THAT THE THING I am observing in this like this tweet starts with according to a source >> like intel and I'm sure Rafel gets real intel >> for sure.

[00:05:25]>> But also like as as far as I know I follow Ray Fal for years. I I don't feel like he's much of a source news breaker on the timeline all the time. So it feels a little like out of like I think people would be weirded out if I was just like hey according to source Braden Smith's going lottery. Yeah, >> you know, and that's that's not what I'm saying is happening. Ray Fell certainly is more connected than I am, but I guess do you believe there's real NBA people that are telling Ray Fel or anyone in the room here, Jeremy Fears's dad, like, yeah, you're a first round pick.

[00:05:59]I would be shocked if there is just because you know what I get mock drafts and rankings are just that and I understand that they can go either way but you know I just haven't seen much first round buzz for him at all and you know some mock drafts are different like I can go to one and see Mal Kamarano at 24 I can go one and see Malik Kamarano in the 50s uh just the other day uh Jeremy Woo has Christian Anderson is 18th. Kevin Oconor has Christian Anderson as a second round pick. So like things really go back and forth here.

[00:06:35]But like consistently what I'm seeing is that Fears is in the 40s, the latter part of the 40s or not drafted at all or further down towards the second round.

[00:06:49]So I have yet to see any first round mocks or reports on him. So I find it shocking to see read that.

[00:07:00]>> Did you see Jace Richardson's dad Jason Richard? I don't know why.

[00:07:06]>> My you talking Are you talking about my guy?

[00:07:08]>> Jason, is that your guy?

[00:07:09]>> My my guy Jay Rich.

[00:07:10]>> That's your guy.

[00:07:12]>> Me? Yeah. Me and him. We go way back.

[00:07:13]>> Yeah. You go way back to the day where he messaged you like, "What the hell, dude?"

[00:07:18]>> Yeah. Because for those Q home, this is the third consecutive offseason where Michigan State fans have on their own players and said, "You're not as good as you think you are." So, yeah, Jace Richardson's dad seemed to weigh in on all of this as part of this conversation. Did you see that?

[00:07:32]>> No, let me Oh, >> didn't see that one. I'm sure he didn't see that one.

[00:07:37]>> No, he retw I actually didn't. So, he retweeted these. I didn't even see these. Yeah, he's he's very much in like the room that Ray Fel appears to be sitting in here is like Ray Fel, Jeremy Fear Senior, and Jason Richardson all just like NBA.

[00:07:56]>> Did Salari tweet something about Jay Rich and he deleted it?

[00:08:00]>> Solari, I think, either retweeted Jason's tweet. I I don't know. I think Solari was just trying to evangelize what Jay Rich did.

[00:08:07]>> No. Yeah, cuz some somebody responded to the Ray Fel's tweet and then I see Jay Rich's response, but it says the post was deleted.

[00:08:14]>> Huh. I don't know. I I might be misiming this. I just saw Jay Rich weighed in and was like, "You got to understand the NBA is the goal for all of these guys." Or something along those lines.

[00:08:25]>> Okay. Yeah, I see that one.

[00:08:27]>> Yeah. So, >> yeah. Which which I >> subject matter expert here, Jay. Rich, >> which I which I agree with. Like I do I do. Um like that's whether if you just want to play in the NBA then just go ahead and enter the draft and no matter where you get drafted if you believe in yourself and you think it's going to work out and that's what you want. Like I've I've been on record saying this. I get it. Like what player doesn't want to play in the NBA? I get that. Uh Jay's situation is a little bit different than Fears. I would say >> a lot bit different.

[00:09:02]>> A lot bit different.

[00:09:03]>> A lot of bit different. I didn't see Jace anywhere outside of the first round mock dress anywhere. I was surprised to see him drop as low as he did in the first round. And I don't think Jace made the wrong decision by leaving. And anyone and anyone who says that he did, I just think is is incorrect.

[00:09:21]>> So th this is the first time you and I are doing one of these conversations together. In fact, I think this is the first video you and I have done on the channel in like two weeks.

[00:09:28]>> Yeah.

[00:09:29]>> So, >> which by the way, we're good, too. We're good.

[00:09:32]>> Us two. Yeah.

[00:09:33]>> Yeah. I I seen I've seen chatter. We're we're we're good.

[00:09:36]>> We're fine. We're just I'm golfing and you were golfing. Here we are. It's summer. Um so what's actually going on here? Ray Fel tweets aside. I'm like because I >> to me like there's a relationship there.

[00:09:56]He's going to bat for his guy. He probably is hearing like he could sneak in the first round. Cool. Not disputing the reporting.

[00:10:03]But he's going really hard on the timeline for his guy.

[00:10:06]>> Yes.

[00:10:06]>> Um that's fine.

[00:10:10]>> What are we doing? Like I He's NOT IN THE MOX. And I get he showed up to the combine and played good in the scrimmages and his verbal leadership stuff went great. Graham Couch says he's GOT $3.5 MILLION WAITING for him. That's the single most amount I've ever heard a Michigan State basketball player under Tom Mizo ever associated with.

[00:10:31]Like I He's gonna be a preseason first team all-American. By all accounts, he went to the combine with ISO's blessing and they were all on the same page.

[00:10:40]Yeah, he's going for feedback. HE'S COMING BACK. SO, WHAT HAPPENED? LIKE, WHAT ARE WE DOING? HE'S not a projected lottery pick. He's not a projected first round pick. Even if people that love Jeremy Fears are implying maybe he sneaks in. I mean, even in the rosiest tweet here, it's, "Well, I heard he got three workouts and two of them were good. So, what was he terrible on the third one?

[00:11:02]>> Right?

[00:11:02]>> Like even in the rosiest picture here from A FAMILIAL CONNECTION GUY, WE'RE GETTING like he might go early second.

[00:11:10]Like what are we doing here? Seriously, what are we doing? I I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IT at this point. Is it is it just that dad is ready for this to end?

[00:11:20]And if so, why?

[00:11:24]>> Yeah. Uh, look, I think that I think that Jeremy Fear Senior's vision for his sons is that he has three NBA players. Three NBA players. That's really what what the vision is. And you know what? He probably he he does believe that his son is an NBA player. And I'm not even saying that's wrong that he would do that. That's what he should do as a father. Um, and you know what? him pushing for him to go play in the NBA and realize his dream, which I'm assuming that is Jeremy Fierce Jr.'s dream to play in the NBA. That's really all that it is. The the dream is not to be, you know, maybe a lottery pick or maybe that is the dream, but the end of the dream is to be in the NBA. And if you think you're going to get drafted and you want to play in the NBA and you got that self-belief, you know what? Go ahead and go right ahead. I've said that a million times before. I'm also the belief too here that like you know what there's also some things that you could do if you go back to Michigan State like you can make a good amount of money and you can do some things and you could win and possibly improve in some areas that teams definitely want to see you improve. So like I I think I said this to you and my wording went something like this. Would I be sick if Jeremy Fears went to the NBA? Yes, I would be sick. It'd make my team worse. I would be sick. But at the same time, I get it.

[00:12:47]I get it. If you want to go get drafted, go right ahead because I think he would be drafted in the 60 what? 60 the 60 picks in the NBA.

[00:12:56]>> Yeah, he would.

[00:12:57]>> But that's also not a for sure thing.

[00:13:00]>> He would. And I like again I Jeremy's entitled to make whatever decision he wants. If he wants to go play in the NBA, then then go. Um look, I When's the deadline? He's got like nine more days, eight more days.

[00:13:14]>> Uh yeah, I think it's the 26.

[00:13:16]>> Okay, so six more days. So he can do whatever he wants. He's got time. If he wants to drag this to the very end, fine. Um but man, if their heart is so set on going, just go, right? What? LIKE WHAT ARE WE DOING AT this point?

[00:13:30]>> Yeah, especially because like coming from this angle, it's I don't think it's a money driven thing at all. Like I think if it was a money thing, he'd be back at Michigan State. like they I don't think we'd be going through this dance.

[00:13:43]>> Yeah. So, I'm I'm just I'm really in like trying to understand the motivations here. Like it almost feels to me what's going on with these tweets and Jay Rich's input and dad's involvement and all of this. It feels similar to like the bluff, that's what Isaac Troder called it, that Malachi Moreno's agent made. Mhm.

[00:14:08]>> Like everyone in his camp is like he might go first round and then everyone on the outside of the camp the NBA world is like no he won't.

[00:14:19]So like I understand Malachi's side.

[00:14:22]Malachi is doing it for money. Malachi Moreno is is tactically driving a false narrative so that Mark Pope will overpay him. Mhm.

[00:14:36]>> What is the motivation from fears? Like I just I even if they believe he's an NBA player airing all this out on the timeline the way they are is just weird to me. It's just pissing off fans.

[00:14:51]It's like creating conversations that I don't think need to exist or do exist. Like what? a different point guard marked ahead of him is avoiding him.

[00:15:04]Okay. Like I'm just lost on what what IS HAPPENING. IF THEY WANT TO GO PRO, GO PRO. The only reason it would make sense to do all this to me is if they're trying to get more money from ISO or which I can't imagine like even if they wanted to do that, I can't imagine ISO's playing ball there.

[00:15:24]>> Or two like are they just pissed? Is there DID SOMETHING HAPPEN BETWEEN THE END OF THE season and now that has pissed the Fierce family off that I'm unaware of? Like they are this whole thing is weird and I don't get it.

[00:15:39]>> So my here's my attempt at thinking the only thing that piss pissed them off is they think that Jeremy is better than a lot of the players that are projected to be drafted. Maybe >> which may be true. That that may be true as a college basketball player. Fierce was top 10 in the country.

[00:16:02]>> Yeah, >> there's a lot of guys who will be taken between one and 40 that Fierce is better than, >> right? That's the that's that's the that's reality of the situation. But like I just Yeah, I I don't know outside of just campaigning for your guy, which like I like you said already, I get that. I've campaigned for my guy many of times.

[00:16:26]>> Um, but I just I don't get what the end goal of this necessarily necessarily is.

[00:16:33]>> It feels a lot more real now than it did three days ago to me. Just the more this and like with Jay Rich even getting involved, it's like this is weird. I don't get it. Um, is there any world, this is probably a stretch, and you'll you're entitled to tell me this is a stretch. Is there any world that they sat back and watched what ISO did with the roster this summer and didn't like it and that's changed the way they feel about coming back?

[00:17:06]The only reason I say no is because I think there is there's enough retention where I think there's somewhat of a relationship there and like those guys look to fears as like the leader of that basketball team.

[00:17:21]>> Sure.

[00:17:21]>> Um but at the same time, >> I could see a world where he is like that that's that's kind of what we got.

[00:17:28]You know what I'm saying? Maybe maybe he thought there'd be a little bit more aggression in the in the portal, but like I don't know. Even even with that said, you know, I look at this from two ways. I think Bears will be successful no matter where he's drafted. I feel like he'll find his way onto an NBA floor one way or the other just given who he is as a player. It just might be a different path given where he's selected. Um I don't know if I just made like a pros and cons list though myself looking at this. I just think there's a lot more on the table for one side, but also I get it doesn't matter about a pros and cons list because if your only goal is to play in the NBA then just enter and see what happens. I I mean just stay in the draft and see what happens.

[00:18:10]>> I'm really I'm looking at the situation just trying to thread the needle on like oh that makes sense why they're doing this and I still don't think I've landed on it. But >> is it just camp? But so if it's just campaigning for their guy, >> even if it's campaigning, the way the dad is tweeting makes no sense to me.

[00:18:29]That's not campaigning. That's like burning bridges with fans. Why? That's weird. It >> So I I don't think he cares about >> Sure. Like and he would not be the first parent to not care about the fan base, but like it's a noticeable shift. this not how Pops have felt along the way. I don't think necessarily. Um or at least not verbalized out loud.

[00:18:54]>> Yeah.

[00:18:55]>> So, I'm just again I'm just trying to explain it like I cuz up till now I haven't taken this all that seriously. I found it entertaining but I've been like ah fierce wouldn't do this. Now I'm just like the more and more people getting involved in this it's like someone behind the scenes is begging to keep driving this up. It's the same way. Like I understand why Malachi's camp is doing this. I don't understand why the fears camp is doing this. I don't um I and again my possible explanations to try and thread the needle here. Cart, there was a Freudian slip from Fears that I bit my tongue on the first video I did here that I'm coming back when he uh god I forget what it was. Oh, they interviewed him at the combine >> and they asked him like if he do come back, what's that roster looking like?

[00:19:41]And he was like ah it would be pretty good. I mean, you know, we got some transfers, a transfer.

[00:19:49]I was like, huh?

[00:19:51]>> Like, is there a world that Fears is like looking at this roster not feeling like there is a national championship to come?

[00:19:58]>> Yeah. Well, I'll say this. If they if if that was a thing, I think the camp played it wrong again because then he should have portalled.

[00:20:08]>> See, I agree there for sure. It's like you if it was about all this extra stuff, you would think he would have been in the portal before going this route and he's not.

[00:20:18]>> So yeah, I'm confused. Or second explanation that I thought about, which gets a little dark and twisted, but maybe there's a level of legitimacy to this. This kid already saw his basketball career flash in front of his eyes.

[00:20:34]>> Mhm. saw his life flash in front of him.

[00:20:36]And I'm not saying it was like I don't think he was on the verge of death getting shot in the leg, but the kid got shot, >> right? Not trying to go full Gus Johnson, but like I don't know what it's like to live through that experience.

[00:20:47]And I would assume if as a freshman in college you did live through that experience, maybe that warps your view of your dream and your sense of urgency to it, you know?

[00:20:56]>> Yeah. No, for sure. And even on top of that standpoint, like and and me personally as I look at this, Fierce doesn't like he would I if he leaves and goes to the NBA like I that's my PG.

[00:21:12]Like that's that's fear. Like he is one of the better point guards to come through Michigan State and everything associated with that. Will the thought of like is there some more Michigan State legacy stuff on the line if he was to stay? Yeah, I would probably have that conversation with you, you know, right after we fire up some Ran battle rap videos at like 1:00 a.m. Like what could that last two years of fears been?

[00:21:33]But at the same time, I'm over here like he doesn't like owe owe me anything. He doesn't owe Michigan State anything or anything like that. I think that he did a lot for the school. He did a lot for the university. He hung a banner. He won a Big 10 championship. He overcame adversity. He could have left last year.

[00:21:52]I thought at least enter the portal. So like, you know what? Would I be sick?

[00:21:56]Yeah, I'd be sick. Don't get me wrong.

[00:21:59]But like, he doesn't owe Michigan State anything.

[00:22:03]>> Yeah. I mean, it's his decision. If he's ready to go, he should go. I just again, then go. I I don't understand.

[00:22:10]>> Can we be his camp? Can we be his camp for two seconds?

[00:22:12]>> Yeah. One one second, though. I just I if they want to go, they could go without doing all this.

[00:22:20]>> Yeah, >> there I there is no reason to do all of this and then go. It's just pissing everybody off on the way out. And I don't understand why they would do that at all.

[00:22:33]>> I don't I don't understand either.

[00:22:35]>> Here we are. Um do you want to be his camp? You said >> I think so.

[00:22:39]>> We can be his camp.

[00:22:41]>> I like to be his camp. Okay, stop kicking.

[00:22:45]Hey, I'll I'll take this. I'll take this. Um, I'm hearing like high I'm hearing maybe 47 fear. Maybe 47. I just think we go back to Michigan State. We take that 35.

[00:23:02]See if we can improve on some areas this year and we and we'll, you know, we'll be out of here next year.

[00:23:09]>> Yeah. I mean, I don't need to impersonate his camp to just say flatly I believe the correct decision is to go back to Michigan State for him. I believe he will be a first round pick next year. I believe he could win national player of the year and I believe everything is ready made in front of him to pursue a final four in the home state as your final swan song with all of this. I'm just confused. And again, it's it's very similar to what Malachi Moreno honestly think I might have cracked it. So Fear said his own words were, "I want first round. I want first round buzz. That's what I'm looking for to stay in the draft."

[00:23:47]>> Mhm.

[00:23:48]>> He's not getting that.

[00:23:50]>> Yeah.

[00:23:50]>> He's not getting it anywhere.

[00:23:52]But dad wants him to go. Correct. We agree with that.

[00:23:56]>> Yes. So, if he's not getting what he said he needs to go and dad heard what he needs personally to consider going and wants him to go, dad needs people saying there's first round bus.

[00:24:11]>> Yeah. Well, you want to can I do a quick little exercise for you right here?

[00:24:15]>> Sure.

[00:24:16]>> I have two things in my hand. What are these two things?

[00:24:19]>> That's sunglasses and sunglasses.

[00:24:21]>> Sunglasses. Got it. Um, let's call this pair of sunglasses source. Let's call this pair of sunglasses Jeremy Fear Senior.

[00:24:32]Can we do quick math here? What would that make these? They make them the same, right?

[00:24:36]>> Yes, >> cuz they're both sunglasses.

[00:24:39]>> Well, but that wouldn't that be the best explanation of why is this happening and where is it coming from? That would be this this would be like us like in a conversation or like a chat and you and I would I would come to you or something like that like pushing to the field. I'm like, "Man, I just got out of a workout with so and so. They were in the gym cooking, doing this or this that or like when someone would text us in the off season and be like, "Oh, this is what happened in our inner squad scrimmage."

[00:25:11]>> Yeah. and we be or the secret scrim like oh well we sources tell us that we heard that that this is what happened and this is the box like I I to me this kind of just feels like you know I'm sure that Jeremy Fear Senior's in these workouts and he's coming back and reporting back of what happened in the workouts.

[00:25:31]>> Yeah. Um that's just my I think my current this changes every hour. My current interpretation is dad is probably asking media people he is close with to maybe drop some I'm here in first round tibbits that no one on the NBA side seems to be able to confirm. But that way when Junior opens up his timeline he's seeing important people say first round.

[00:26:01]That would feel like it makes a lot of sense to me here. And if that is what's going on, first of all, I applaud it from people riding for their guy like Rafe. Love that. I love when people ride for their guys. Second, let me talk directly to Senior here. I'm available. If this is what we're doing, if you want members of the media to say they're here in first round for Jeremy Fierce per source, hit my line, big dog.

[00:26:25]I am available for cheap. Lastly, the God, we spent a whole day not working together. Now we're going to do 45 minutes on a video that could be seven minutes. Um the second half of this there's a point guard ducking workouts.

[00:26:40]>> Mhm.

[00:26:41]>> Is that pass your I believe this radar?

[00:26:45]Yes or no?

[00:26:47]>> Um not I don't I don't know. I the first thought that came to my head was um I do think there's some point guards that don't find it beneficial to work out against a point guard that is not going to be drafted or undrafted because those guys have more on the line than they do and they will inherently go harder I would expect or maybe as some would put it and I don't really agree with it because I'm about competing maybe doing too much in a work out. But I don't know. Uh other outside of that, I don't really know no know why.

[00:27:32]>> Uh I mean, just as a starting point, I don't think it's ever been fun to play against Jeremy Fierce.

[00:27:38]>> Yeah. Well, that's how I'm kind of coming coming at this as well. Like they don't want to like he's a fierce competitor. You don't And that's that's that's the way I put it. Fierce competitor. Maybe people don't want to do that in the workout.

[00:27:49]>> Yeah. I I completely buy that. any generic point guard would not want to see Jeremy Fierce across from them in a workout setting or a game set or any setting on earth. Um, >> also respectfully, I mean, we we could play the game of like who do we think this is.

[00:28:08]There certainly are people playing that game that think they know who Rafe is talking about here. Context clues, maybe we could guess. I'm going to choose not to.

[00:28:18]There's plenty of names you can choose from, be mocked in the second round that are point guards.

[00:28:25]>> I don't really buy that. Like a Christian I'll just pick a name.

[00:28:28]Christian Anderson, for example, he's mocked in the second round per KOC.

[00:28:34]>> I like Cart Coleman Hawkins doesn't want to work out with me. Like I I'm me. I like I'm so I don't think anyone that's gonna firmly be selected here is is afraid of Jeremy Fears. Um and if they are, it would just be for comedic purposes for me. Like maybe they don't want to get kicked. Maybe they're worried about staying healthy in a workout. But like he's not the boogeyman here. Like can I I'll speak from my own most outstanding player in a final four national champion point guard who isn't getting drafted. We are not afraid of Jeremy Fierce. Okay. Like it's suspending belief a little bit for me when we go to that length. Like first round buzz is one thing, but guys are ducking. Jeremy Fears is uh whole another story to me.

[00:29:20]>> Yeah. Uh need to know who it is.

[00:29:23]>> Who do you think it is?

[00:29:25]>> Well, I'd like to know who it is cuz I don't think they're draftable.

[00:29:28]>> If someone is >> If that is actually a thing, then that that's ridic and I love my point guard.

[00:29:33]You just spoke for your point. I love my point guard. If you are ducking my point guard in the workout, then yuck. Yeah.

[00:29:44]Do you think there's someone doing this?

[00:29:47]I guess I'm feeling like I've danced around this question as much as humanly possible.

[00:29:53]>> No, I don't.

[00:29:54]>> Okay. I don't.

[00:29:55]>> Okay.

[00:29:56]>> I don't. And I'm And this is not me insinuating anyone is lying or anything like that. I am just of the belief that I'm not I'm not buying that that came the truth and that that and that statement too that's like an agent told me well I think that agent is bullshitting >> the number one thing I've learned this cycle of the NBA draft is there are a lot of lies that you need to sort through and uh I absolutely believe a good source told Ray Fel that this happened >> and I believe he was right and fair to report it.

[00:30:35]I don't think I believe it actually happened.

[00:30:38]That would shock me, but never know.

[00:30:41]>> I agree.

[00:30:44]>> Miss you.

[00:30:45]>> Just come back to school, dog. Can I Can I get Can I Can I end with that?

[00:30:49]>> Yeah, you could shake ass if you want.

[00:30:50]Look, Cart, he's mine 2.0.

[00:30:54]That's what we build this man as. Let's like He kind of has to complete the mission, though.

[00:30:59]>> Come back to school.

[00:31:01]I think it would do you good if I had to if I was, you know what I'm saying? I think I I get it. I get the I get what your goal is. I think there are some improvements that you could show in a large sample size of a season on top of on top of, you know, finding a way to have success along the way that could have NBA teams look at you in a greater light.

[00:31:27]If he's a more consistent shooter, I think that could that could come to fruition.

[00:31:33]I think that makes his draft stock go up. So, that's where I'm at with it.

[00:31:37]>> Yeah. I think everything you said is fair.

[00:31:40]Can I talk to you directly to close this?

[00:31:43]>> Yeah.

[00:31:46]>> I think Fears is my preseason national player of the year if he returns. I think the world of his abilities in college basketball. Michigan State is absolutely a better team with him.

[00:31:59]If he y'all over, I think you're going to be fine.

[00:32:06]And I know that's like twisted.

[00:32:08]>> Oh, I'm I'm not I'm I think I agree with you, >> but like all all that would happen is I think you go full youth movement.

[00:32:16]>> Mhm. Jervis doesn't come off the bench behind Curt Tang to win now >> and you let the Young Bulls rock in a season with like no expectations >> and honestly those have been some of the most dangerous Tomo teams.

[00:32:31]>> Yeah. And we go and aesthetically I know this means aesthetically I go from fears to lows.

[00:32:39]>> He's dog to dog.

[00:32:41]>> Yeah. Like let the let the young Bulls rock. It's been a minute.

[00:32:44]>> It has been a minute. as but also come back. You'll be fine.