Pixar Has Some Explaining to Do About Woody! And Kelis wants to Make All Characters Brown!

追加: 2026-05-28

[00:00:00]in honor of Woody Strods. We thank you, Woody. He was groundbreaking. He actually went to UCLA and he was one of the first players to help integrate UCLA's college football team. He also played for the NFL where he was one of the only black players in the NFL. He was a giant 6'4. He was groundbreaking in everything that he did. He was paramount in Hollywood. He was an actor.

[00:00:20]He was in a lot of the westerns, which actually our Toy Story is named after Woody Strode. And he was a World War II veteran. This man changed the game everywhere he went. Pixar, for some reason or another, decided to use the character Woody Strode as the name of the character Woody, but Pixar didn't make Woody black.

[00:00:45]There's so many topics to get into today, but I just want to start with this whole Pixar situation, this viral clip that is going around the internet.

[00:00:54]I want to bring on my special guest, Minister Tommy Arbuckle to talk about this with me. Tommy, how are you doing, my friend?

[00:01:01]>> Doing good, my brother. Always my pleasure to be on disturbing the peace, brother.

[00:01:06]>> That's right. Likewise. And you do a good job at that. You disturb the peace.

[00:01:10]Well, with truth and with love. I I want to get into this topic of the singer Khalise that that's now promoting um Make It Brown, a company that race swaps iconic characters into black collectibles. I want to show you this first video clip that's going around the internet and then I'll show you an additional video clip and then we'll get into it further. Take a look at this.

[00:01:35]>> Okay, so this is the unboxing of Woody.

[00:01:39]So dope. I really love him. We took a lot of time to make sure all the details are right. If you look, his little sheriff back. Even his belt buckle is popping. You can take his little pistol in and out. His hat is magnetized. It comes on and off. We got his fro tight.

[00:01:55]His little scarf. Look at the spurs on his boot. He's just really wellmade.

[00:02:00]He's fragile because it's like an art piece. You want to sit this on like a mantle or a bookshelf or something. Of course, you guys know who's coming next.

[00:02:08]>> TO INFINITY AND BEYOND. You want to make your brand, get your plushies, get your collectibles, get your art, get your culture. We love y'all.

[00:02:18]>> All right, there you have it. So, this is um this is Kalis talking about her new business where they, you know, they they swap the the pigmentation of leading um characters from the comics and things of that nature. I want to get your take on this. Um what are your thoughts initially when you see that? What comes to mind?

[00:02:42]>> You know the I say the kind of the first thought that comes to mind is much of what uh we receive as colorism. You know um I say in some cases around the world things are absent and our children are looking for something that they can assimilate with. You know what I mean?

[00:03:00]Um I remember um you know growing up with my uh my sister I had a bunch of sisters around me so uh a lot of times those dolls uh were not representative of I would say African-American culture.

[00:03:14]>> Yes.

[00:03:14]>> I don't even know as a child necessarily you understood that. You know what I mean?

[00:03:18]>> Right. as much as it was a dog, you know, they played with those things. And um um I don't I would say unless you you spent some time or someone maybe older than you uh you know told told you something was off, you wouldn't know it.

[00:03:36]True.

[00:03:36]>> You know what I mean?

[00:03:37]>> A toy a toy whether it's a white toy, black toy, you're just kind of playing with it. So, I mean, I I I I understand, I guess, some of the idea of trying to create uh objects that children can play with that they've got more an affinity towards because it somewhat looks like them, you know? So, it's it's it's okay.

[00:03:56]You know what I mean?

[00:03:57]>> But do you think uh what she's doing, do you think it's um a form of representation or is it a cheap substitute for actually creating original black characters?

[00:04:09]>> That's a great question. You know, I mean, I don't, you know, I hadn't thought about it from that perspective.

[00:04:14]Uh, I like that viewpoint. I mean, it doesn't necessarily mean that she can't create, you know, I mean, I'm not sure why you would necessarily, I guess, take a Woody doll and want to make it a black Woody doll. I mean, I if if Woody was white in the, you know, the in the actual movies, it's okay to keep him that way. I mean, um, I guess you could, you know, go to the to the other extreme and say for every white person, right, that is something, >> you know, let's say that's a singer or somebody that's a baseball player. Would you actually go and take that individual and make them a black? I think most people probably find that offensive.

[00:04:54]>> Yes.

[00:04:56]>> When I think about it from that perspective, the fact that we're talking about toys is kind of more subtle. You know what I mean?

[00:05:01]>> True. So true. is not an actual person.

[00:05:04]>> Right. Right. Ex. Exactly. Um but I'm getting ready to show you something now that's going to show an agenda. Um the original clip that Khalis put out from what I'm told and what I'm going to show you and show you now, it was edited. Meaning that the part that explains the Woody toy, that aspect is removed, but you only get the ending of it.

[00:05:38]>> Ah, you get to see the toy, not the reason why they did it.

[00:05:42]>> Exactly. There's a setup to what she's talking about when it comes to Woody.

[00:05:46]Now, I am against doing this across the board. I.e., if a character is white, now let's make it black. If they're black, now let's make it white. I mean, come on, man. If if the original character is a certain ethnicity, pigmentation, skin tone, color, leave it as that. You all right? Let's let's let's keep it there. Um, but evidently someone wanted to send a a narrative against what she's doing as a whole, but they kind of skewed things because people don't know the true history around the character Woody. Take a look at this clip here.

[00:06:26]>> Did you know that Woody from Toy Story was actually named after a black man named >> it? This one is >> so this is Kise giving the update on this character but you didn't get to see this part in the initial clip that has gone viral. All right the viral clip you know that's going around the world. Everybody's seen that but many people haven't seen this clip and that's why I do the heavy lifting to bring the full perspective on disturbing the peace. Watch. in honor of Woody Strods. We thank you, Woody. He was groundbreaking. He actually went to UCLA and he was one of the first players to help integrate UCLA's college football team. He also played for the NFL where he was one of the only black players in the NFL. He was a giant 6'4.

[00:07:15]He was groundbreaking in everything that he did. He was paramount in Hollywood.

[00:07:19]He was an actor. He was in a lot of the westerns, which actually our Toy Story is named after Woody Strode. And he was a World War II veteran. This man changed the game everywhere he went. So Woody, we thank you.

[00:07:32]>> So these are art pieces and like hold it right here.

[00:07:35]>> So this is the clip that I just showed you. It now goes into this aspect of it, but the initial part was originally removed.

[00:07:45]>> All right. And so Pixar for some reason or another decided to use the character Woody Strode as the name of the character Woody, but Pixar didn't make Woody black.

[00:08:05]>> They made Woody white.

[00:08:09]And so the question as it relates to Woody u the animist and the additional questions around that should be placed at the feet of Pixar initially as to why Pixar would find it necessary to take the name of Woody Strode a famous you know cowboy and NFL football player and now whitewash him.

[00:08:34]So Pixar already whitewashed Woody. The character was named after Woody Strode, a black man. Does that change how we look at what Make It Brown is doing, Khisa's New Company?

[00:08:48]>> Yeah, I I would say it would. I mean, not not I said I didn't have that context, you know, to to know that there was actually a person, an African-American, that was uh where they got the name from.

[00:09:01]>> That's interesting. I mean, I don't know why a person would change that. I mean, it's there's no reason that you would legitimately say, I don't want to have the person be what he is unless you've got a different agenda that you're trying to push, right? Which I mean, that's I would say the history of America and some of their its own issues with racism. I mean, it's it's got some problems within it. And so you got to get to who are the who are the people inside of Pixar >> uh that is making that decision and what was the reason behind the decision to not you know ex you know show what it show the the the the image for what it was right it was an African-American >> uh and he's done some great things and you know therefore we are making a movie about him you know what I mean or have him be the lead character of that so >> all right and why why why not just keep it as a black character Now, we know this there there's this thing called um capitalism.

[00:10:02]>> Sure.

[00:10:02]>> All right. And maybe they thought that, you know, we'll honor Woody Strode by using his name.

[00:10:11]But in order to sell a lot of Woody dolls, we might need to make Woody, you know, in a pigmentation that identifies with the majority of the population in America. Now, I'm I'm putting words into Pixar's mouth. Okay? I don't know why Pixar did this, but Pixar But Pixar did do this. So, the left calls it whitewashing when a black character is swapped white. They call it inclusion when a white character is swapped black.

[00:10:49]All right. Can you hold both of those positions with intellectual honesty?

[00:10:57]>> Oh, we Yeah, I I don't think you can.

[00:10:59]That's I don't know why you would. You know what I mean? It's >> right.

[00:11:03]>> There's there's no legitimate reason why I would say picture I had to do that. It doesn't make sense. Um, unless at, you know, to your point they were trying to appease uh a certain group of people and uh I mean that would just be what it is. I would love to hear a comment from Pixar.

[00:11:22]>> Yes. Yeah. P Pixar owes us a response, right?

[00:11:26]>> I would love to hear that response.

[00:11:29]You know what I mean?

[00:11:30]>> Right. But then check this out. When it was time for Pixar to make their first openly LGBTQ character, Pixar didn't have a problem using a black person in real life and then using a black person's um voice. Take take a look at this.

[00:11:53]>> All right. So, right here, that's the Cyclops officer that was in a 2020 uh film for Pixar, and they use an openly gay black woman, Lena Waith, to play Lena Waith, to play that character.

[00:12:11]>> Nice.

[00:12:13]>> All right. And it's evident that the Cyclops, you know, I guess they put thick lips on the Cyclops to make it look like it >> Say it again. big nose.

[00:12:23]>> There.

[00:12:24]>> There you go. Lar large nose. All of the above to make it depict uh the imagery of a, you know, black character. So p so Pixar can do that.

[00:12:38]>> Sure.

[00:12:39]>> But the same Pixar made Woody white when Woody WAS REALLY A BLACK COWBOY who played in the NFL. 6'4, built like a big Greek god slave looking man. I mean, why in the world would Pixar do this? And so, Kise, let's back to her.

[00:13:01]I disagree with across the board making all of these characters who were originally white black.

[00:13:12]>> Yeah, >> I disagree with that. But she does have a point when it comes to the Woody character.

[00:13:19]>> Yeah. that if Woody Strobe is, you know, the the person behind the character Woody, then why did they make him white and why did they use the voice of Tom Hanks? It could it be capitalism or is there another nefarious agenda?

[00:13:38]Closing statements on this topic?

[00:13:40]>> Yeah, I you know, I first of all, I think these are both great great images and and topics. I think it it makes us as citizens of the United States really consider, you know, what are the things that we're being exposed to and why, you know, I mean, I think a person should should think about, you know, is this normal? You know what I mean? Is it normal to take a an individual of fame like Woody Stro and and then say, I'm not gonna actually show you him and his, you know, in his image of being an African-American, right? But then on the flip side of that, you know, they take someone that is an LGBTQTTQ u and they they of course show the fact that, you know, you know, she's black and she's a woman even, right? You know, what is that that what is what is the industry trying to feed our culture?

[00:14:31]What is it trying to feed America, right? What image is it trying to put into the minds of people? And oftentimes, >> I would say um you know, we've been groomed >> and the grooming has happened for a long time. we just are unaware >> uh because you know we've seen it you know what I mean but you know in the back of some child's mind and they see those things children are trying to find something that they can you know affinitize and and and and look at some representation of themselves in it right >> right >> so I can see on the flip side especially the one with the uh the woman um you know if your child is on the fence of what their true identity is then they are presenting something to you that says this is what your child could be, which is, you know, I think horrible in itself that you would uh feed those types of things to a to a child and and who's going to be watching those children is going to be watching what Pixar put out there.

[00:15:25]>> That's right. And, you know, it's um it's it's a sad shame. Now, this isn't it's not to say that this is the first black character that um Pixar has used or created, but when it came time for them to make an LGBTQ character, they were sure to connect it to a black person, which uh there's an agenda there. You know what I mean? They they they want to create the mindset that this is something that's accepted in the black community wholesale and >> uh black people want it and you know we're going to take we're going to take black culture and we're going to now make it the poster child of the rainbow agenda which I am vehemently against.

[00:16:10]So, I wanted to call out the insanity of Pixar, but also the the the the scheme on social media to leave out the true essence of what Khalise said about Woody, but then Khalis's insane agenda to now make all the characters brown that were formerly white. We got to address it all. It's complex. It's complex, Tommy.

[00:16:37]>> Yeah. But what what I see is everybody's trying to sell something.

[00:16:41]>> That's right. That's right.

[00:16:42]>> You better hear me. He said everybody's trying to sell something.

[00:16:46]>> Everybody, >> but somebody can buy it.

[00:16:48]>> That's true. That that's so true. That's that is the agenda that we see today.

[00:16:53]And you have to know it. So when you see these things on social media, you have to have discernment.

[00:16:58]>> You know, you just can't jump at things from the surface. You have to do your research and your homework and find out what's really going on and what's taking place.