Summer House Reunion Audio Leaked and Amanda Batula & West Wilson Exposed

Added: 2026-04-29

[00:00:10]Hi friends, good morning and welcome back to the sesh. I'm Janelle. I'm Sydney. And we're joined by Haley. Hey.

[00:00:20]>> Hi.

[00:00:21]>> Hey.

[00:00:22]>> Hey.

[00:00:23]>> Hey. What is that from?

[00:00:25]>> No one knows.

[00:00:25]>> Hey. Um, I don't know. I don't remember.

[00:00:28]We say that to each other constantly.

[00:00:30]Hey, what's up? Um, it is a foggy, cold spring day here in Denver, Colorado.

[00:00:38]It high of 56. Foggy. Couldn't drive.

[00:00:42]Couldn't see driving in today. Was kind of scared.

[00:00:46]>> Yeah, it was giving um Bay Area fog.

[00:00:50]>> Yes, >> I just said that. Really? It reminds me of the mornings in the Bay. It was It's f I don't know if it's still as foggy, but it was bad. And I was a little like ye spooky.

[00:01:02]>> It is. Well, fog is kind of scary because you really can't see >> Yeah.

[00:01:06]>> anything coming up on you until it's like right there >> until it's right there. Yeah. I almost um like went on to oncoming traffic in my neighborhood for a second.

[00:01:14]>> Like it wasn't It's not that serious, but I was like, "Oh, can't see shit."

[00:01:17]Um, but hopefully wherever you're watching, you're having a great day and thank you for joining us for another episode. Um, how's everyone doing? We we went out on what was that? Saturday.

[00:01:33]>> Yes, we went out to dinner on Saturday to celebrate Sydney and Kendall's birthdays cuz their birthdays were last week. Happy belated birthday, Sydney.

[00:01:40]>> Thank you. Thank you.

[00:01:42]>> How old are you?

[00:01:43]>> 25.

[00:01:44]>> Yes, ma'am.

[00:01:46]my twin.

[00:01:48]>> Uh, no. I'm 33.

[00:01:51]>> Yes, ma'am. And you look beautiful. You are beautiful.

[00:01:55]>> You're spry young chicken.

[00:01:58]>> I wouldn't go there.

[00:01:59]>> She's like, I don't feel like a spry young chicken.

[00:02:02]>> No, I honestly having So, my birthday's on Friday and Jared and I went to dinner.

[00:02:09]>> Mhm.

[00:02:09]>> And I'm usually like a one plan like one outing a weekend type of girl. Okay. So, going out Friday, then Saturday, which I was excited for, but that was like, okay, this is, you know, I'm at my limit there. And then on Sunday, I met up with my mom. And after that, I was like, that was too much.

[00:02:31]>> Like, don't talk to me for a month.

[00:02:32]>> Like, I needed to go home, be in my bed.

[00:02:35]Yeah.

[00:02:37]>> Yeah. Well, we went out to dinner on Saturday and then I we tried to drag you to another bar, but you stood your 33-year-old ground and said, "Fuck off.

[00:02:45]I'm going to bed."

[00:02:46]>> And because I had plans the next morning, I was like, "Oh, hell no. Could not do that."

[00:02:50]>> Mhm.

[00:02:51]>> But I gave you guys props.

[00:02:53]>> Yeah. Well, I didn't actually know that's a lie. I did have plans on Sunday morning.

[00:02:56]>> Oh, yeah. Well, I'm impressed with you.

[00:02:58]>> Thank you. I'm very impressive.

[00:03:01]>> But you're still young, so >> I am younger than you. This is my favorite part of the year because growing up, so Kendall and I are a year and four months apart. But between April and August, we're two numbers apart. So she's 33, I'm 31. And growing up, she always told me like she would tell everyone she's 2 years older than me, which is inaccurate.

[00:03:23]And I would get pissed when she would say that. But now I'm like, "Yeah, you're two years older than me, right?"

[00:03:27]And >> that's my favorite part because she's two two numbers older than me. And it makes me feel good.

[00:03:34]So anywh who um okay what's the vibe for this episode Sydney?

[00:03:42]>> Well we've got a lot going on with Summerhouse and I thought it would be fun for myself and also Haley to inform you on what's going on cuz um do you know what what's been going on with Summer House?

[00:03:55]>> No. So, I've seen this [ __ ] online because it's uh all over the internet, but I don't really know like anything about the current situation and I know that you two are locked the [ __ ] in >> and you guys were trying to explain it to me when we were getting ready on Saturday and I was like so confused.

[00:04:14]You're like, you know what? Let me just teach you about it on Monday.

[00:04:18]>> Yeah. And so, it's been going on like the drama between certain cast members and whatnot for a while now. like back it started back in March. But the reason why it's like popping off again is because and we're I'm going to start with this and we'll end with obviously with the most recent info, but the reunion was filmed last week and there was audio leaked from the reunion and it was a massive deal because this was like the first time the cast was sitting down after all this drama just popped off.

[00:04:50]So, and there's in the audio you can hear like make out, you know, who's talking and it's just a big big no no.

[00:05:00]>> Bravo scandal.

[00:05:01]>> Yes.

[00:05:02]>> So, um there was an investigation, right?

[00:05:04]>> Yes. Which actually just concluded and we'll get into found >> cuz you told me this is like worse than scandal. I personally think what it's hard to compare but and I guess I I want to know your thoughts after this but I have my reasonings for why I think this is >> worse. Yeah.

[00:05:25]>> Yeah. I'm excited. Sydney made a and and um Haley too made a beautiful PowerPoint presentation for all of us and we're going to break it down bit by bit and um yeah I'm excited. It's going to be a good one. If you don't know what the show Summerhouse is about, um it's a reality show on Bravo and it first premiered in 2017 and it's now on season 10.

[00:05:50]>> Now I have watched quite a few seasons, >> right? You said like up to like eight.

[00:05:55]>> Yeah, I've I think I've watched through season 8. No, Maggie, please don't leave your mother. Please.

[00:06:00]>> Which is funny cuz that's like where this drama starts.

[00:06:03]>> Yes.

[00:06:04]>> Okay, so yeah, that's annoying. I I need to like get back on. I don't know why I like stopped watching it, but I'm very familiar with like the premise of the show, the people in the show. Like I know it's like yeah, pretty simple concept. It's a group of friends. They all live in New York City and then basically during the summer every weekend they go down to like the summer house like in the Hamptons party. I mean hook up. It's just crazy. like leave work, go party for the weekend, kind of go back and then just for the whole summer, >> right?

[00:06:38]>> And the cast like for the most part changes, you know, each season, not totally. We have some pretty consistent members like Kyle, Lindsay, and Carl, which I've been on every season so far, >> right? Which since you have seen some, can you give us your thoughts on those OG three, Janelle?

[00:06:58]>> Um, yeah. Kyle, I think he's a [ __ ] idiot.

[00:07:02]Um, I don't like him. I I think he's like I don't think he's like an evil person, but I think he's just a dumbass.

[00:07:09]That would be my take on Kyle. Um, then we have Lindsay. I don't like Lindsay. I don't really have thought like she's fine. Like I don't really whatever. I thought she was pretty [ __ ] when it came to the Carl thing like with her cuz they like dated and they got engaged and like that reunion.

[00:07:28]She was a She was kind of on one. I don't know.

[00:07:32]>> I think she's just that's her personality.

[00:07:33]>> Yeah, that's kind of what I got for >> I'm a Lindsay defender because I was originally a Lindsay hater and first of all, once I found out she's a strong independently a woman, it it made sense.

[00:07:45]But um I the Carl thing is because that guy has been back and forth playing her an Aquarius man for those who know um for years. So, I don't really blame her for like going off >> Carl. I actually like Carl.

[00:08:03]>> I don't mind Carl. I think he annoyed me at first, but then he got sober. And I actually liked I think I like I think I like Carl from everything I've seen.

[00:08:11]Like, he seems fine.

[00:08:13]>> Lindsay, I agree, is kind of [ __ ] but so am I. And I relate to that. You know, >> strongly ow women.

[00:08:19]>> She and like she was um I give her props during the summer. She was like pregnant during season 9.

[00:08:26]>> Oh, right. She announced it like the first night there.

[00:08:29]>> Oh, okay.

[00:08:29]>> Um, yeah, she basically hung out with them. I think she went there was times where she would skip some or would go home early on some of the weekends, but >> um the cast for season 10 is Amanda Bula, which >> h I am so sorry. I have never liked her.

[00:08:48]I think she's annoying and whiny.

[00:08:51]>> Yeah. Well, not a lot of people are very happy with her right now, >> which I know that that that people are pissed at her right now. But even before that, it was just like you're just kind of annoying and whiny. I just don't really like you. And you don't have that much of a personality in my opinion.

[00:09:03]You're not funny. You're not interesting. You're just like there and whining.

[00:09:06]>> Sorry. That's just my take. Very hot though. Banging body.

[00:09:10]>> Oh, I thought you mean that was a hot take. I was like, really?

[00:09:12]>> She is.

[00:09:12]>> Yeah, she's hot. I have never seen a body like that.

[00:09:15]>> Yeah, she's got a banging body, but whatever. And then personalities, >> Kyle Cook, of course, which we'll get into like they're married or they were married. They're separated right now.

[00:09:24]Lindsay, Carl, Sierra.

[00:09:27]>> Love her. Love Sierra.

[00:09:30]>> Yes, me too. I've always liked her. I thought she was just always cool.

[00:09:34]Obviously, we also had Hannah and Paige.

[00:09:37]They're not on anymore. I mean, Hannah hasn't been on for a while, but like it's no secret. I love Giggly Squad. I'm a giggler. And so, big fan of the both of them, even though they're not on the show. a Giggly Squad. That name came from the show.

[00:09:49]>> I know.

[00:09:50]>> I um when I was like, you know, looking all this stuff up, I couldn't help myself but watch the seasons Paige are on. And I watched some of the one that Hannah was, but Paige I just, you know, cuz she was was on up until 9 and it was really cool cuz I love them and I love how she's always wearing Giggly Squad merch like while recording.

[00:10:12]>> Yeah, they're great. Love them. Um Okay.

[00:10:14]Okay. And then we have Jesse and West, >> right?

[00:10:20]>> What do you think of Jesse?

[00:10:21]>> I have no thoughts on him. I like forgot who he [ __ ] even is. I think he was just starting when she stopped.

[00:10:28]I don't really care about like I don't know.

[00:10:30]>> He was on one season. I think he started in on season 8, I believe.

[00:10:38]>> So, I know he's just kind of there.

[00:10:39]>> I was going to say he's just there.

[00:10:42]Oh, he was the one that was like obsessed with the young girl Lexi.

[00:10:46]She um she was a one time one season.

[00:10:49]>> Yeah. A lot of them pop in for one season or >> Mhm.

[00:10:52]>> Yeah. Okay. Quick background on Kyle and Amanda.

[00:10:57]>> These two >> because they're like one of the longest or basically were couples on the show, >> right?

[00:11:03]>> And they ended up getting engaged.

[00:11:07]>> Yep. I remember that.

[00:11:08]>> Mhm. And then after a very long engagement, I mean, it's fine. Long engagement is totally fine. Long engagement, they ended up getting married. It's season 6 in 2022.

[00:11:17]>> Are you shading my long engagement?

[00:11:19]>> No. That's why I said it's not a big deal. But for them, I have my thoughts is because they their relationship was a little cheated on her.

[00:11:28]>> Yes. Yes.

[00:11:28]>> In the past >> and she knew about it.

[00:11:30]>> She knew about it and blah blah blah.

[00:11:32]Like he's an idiot and and like shouldn't be with her. Like he needs someone who's as dumb as he is.

[00:11:40]>> Yeah. I mean, well, she's just like constantly bitching about him, which I'm like, why are you guys >> Kyle?

[00:11:46]>> Oh, yeah.

[00:11:46]>> Like, Kyle and like taking digs at him, too. It's just so >> I was going to say everything I've seen cuz I went back when all of this happened. I I went back and I started where Paige started. So, season 3, >> they have never liked each other.

[00:12:02]>> That's what I'm saying. They're always whining.

[00:12:04]>> They have always been fighting. And like one of the pictures she has here is from the iconic fight where he goes, "Summer's supposed to be fun." Amanda, not fun. Such a good moment.

[00:12:15]>> Or he's like, "I don't want to babysit my annoying ass wife." Whatever. I'm like, "Oh my god." Like they're on the reunion. I was watching one reunion here. They're literally watching it back and they're both laughing and I'm like, >> which is incredible, too, because I'm like, "Babsit? And if anyone's babysitting, you're the one that's being babysat because you can't handle your [ __ ] and like are out till 4:00 a.m.

[00:12:34]with texting other [ __ ] doing God knows what.

[00:12:37]>> And oh, in his his like defense, she's like she's asking him what he was out doing till 4 a.m. He's like, "I don't know. I blacked out." I'm like, "Oh, that's great."

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[00:14:46]Also, just want to add this for context is not only were they in a relationship, but they also worked together because um Amanda worked for Kyle's company, Lover Boy.

[00:14:58]>> And she as a creative director. So, not only were they like meshed personally, but also with their professional lives.

[00:15:06]>> No, >> it's actually good.

[00:15:08]>> Is it the liquor drink?

[00:15:10]>> Yeah.

[00:15:10]>> Oh, I like it. I thought I think it's good.

[00:15:12]>> Um but is it like a salsa? Uh yeah, but it's like sweetened. Like it has like flavors. Oh, >> I think it's supposed to be like a like a tea seltzer cuz I I'm um I was just at the season where he finally launched it and she's the creative director and all that. Um >> and he's seen a surge in sales throughout all of this.

[00:15:33]>> Yeah, >> I'm sure. Um but yeah, at some point, you know, over the course of time, Amanda goes, you know, I want something to do for myself. you know, maybe open up my own brand or start a bikini brand or something like that. And he's like, "No, like I need an outlet, so I'm going to become a DJ."

[00:15:52]>> Right. Right. Why are all these [ __ ] Bravo men DJs? And it's always the worst ones. Like James Kennedy. Oh, yeah.

[00:16:01]>> Can I say a hot take?

[00:16:02]>> What is it going to irritate us?

[00:16:04]>> Yes.

[00:16:05]>> Okay. What? All right. I'm not a Kyle Cook defender. I would like to start with that because it's going to sound like I am. I do understand the frustration of like she's constantly asking him to like party less and drink less and like why would you become a DJ but also like they hate each other so whatever. Um I do think that it makes more sense in season 10 he's explaining it. It makes more sense why he became a DJ when he explains it for the business side of Lover Boy and that he was paying to go out to different bars and markets to try to push Lover Boy products, but as a DJ, he's getting paid to do it.

[00:16:41]>> And it also promotes his brand because they were like really struggling financially and he had to stop taking a um salary from Lover Boy because it was doing so bad. So, with that, that's the only devil's advocate I'm going to play for Kyle being a DJ. The rest of it I do think is really annoying and I don't think he's a good husband. Also, not taking a salary is not legal.

[00:17:06]I don't know. That's what he said. Maybe it was like a really low salary. You have to you have to pay yourself some because otherwise they it gets into like a tax thing, but you have to pay yourself a salary. a specific like percentage has to be in your salary.

[00:17:22]Anyways, that doesn't matter. Whatever.

[00:17:24]>> Um, >> all right. He's like making a normal salary and he's like, "I'm not taking any money."

[00:17:30]>> You know what's weird though is like during the season um I think eight reunion while Lindsay and um Carl are going at it, money is brought up.

[00:17:38]They're fighting over like what their jobs are and she was basically saying, "Well, I bring in more money because I have more opportunities outside of this." And then but Andy Cohen made it clear. He's like, "And you all make a good chunk of money for being on the show."

[00:17:51]>> Of course.

[00:17:52]>> So, it's kind of interesting that they were doing so bad, >> but they're on the show. I don't know.

[00:17:56]>> I believe that.

[00:17:57]>> Okay. All right.

[00:17:58]>> Okay. So, moving on. Okay. So, now and then we have Sierra. Okay. So, she joined the show on season 5 >> and like we were saying, she was friends with Paige at first. Like they were really tight.

[00:18:10]>> Yep.

[00:18:11]>> And then she ended up becoming close with Amanda, too. By the end of Paige's time, they were known as like the bed bug trio, right?

[00:18:19]>> Because they were >> always in bed.

[00:18:20]>> Always in bed.

[00:18:21]>> So after Paige left, that's when Amanda and Sierra became really tight, like super close.

[00:18:28]>> I personally love Sarah. I think she's one of the coolest people on the show because I don't know, she kind of reminds me of Paige in a way where I don't think she really gives a [ __ ] and just like says what she's got to say.

[00:18:44]Um, so she's always been one of my favorite people. Now, Luke, who have we we haven't even discussed his ass. Okay.

[00:18:53]What are your thoughts on him?

[00:18:55]>> To be so honest, I didn't like know him too much, but from what it seems like he was just like how he g like he gave her mixed signals and was talking to like other girls at the time.

[00:19:05]>> Yeah, he's kind of a dumbass in my opinion.

[00:19:09]>> I mean, that's the exact same thing.

[00:19:11]This is like copy and paste like what he did to Hannah too. If you do you remember the way?

[00:19:15]>> Oh, I remember.

[00:19:16]>> OG that they were like he was like so into her until one day she goes who's single and he goes >> Yep.

[00:19:23]>> and fi everyone finds out that he has like a almost girlfriend.

[00:19:26]>> Yeah. He's a dumbass too.

[00:19:27]>> A lot of these men on this show are like stupid as [ __ ] >> Yeah. Um okay. So yeah, like obviously we know that relationship ended, >> right?

[00:19:36]>> And then we have West. Now, West, when did he pop on?

[00:19:41]>> Season eight.

[00:19:42]>> Okay. That's why I don't know who this is.

[00:19:43]>> Oh, okay. Okay.

[00:19:44]>> So, that's why I'm confused and that's why Sydney's gonna help me help explain this all because like I said, I didn't I haven't watched season 8. I watched like an episode or something, but I don't know who he is, what his deal is. He's hot though. I know that >> he's good hair.

[00:20:00]>> He's He has a lot. Okay. So he comes on season 8 >> and he pretty much like immediately just hits it off with like all the with the dudes, the girls, very likable, >> right?

[00:20:10]>> Um him and Sierra, you know, they hit it off real chemistry, >> but because of, you know, what happened with Luke, she's also does she doesn't want to just like be someone's like, "Fuck, buddy." She's wants something to be intentional. And she makes it really really clear to Wes like the whole that whole summer that she's like I don't want to just be like a side piece or you know just be having sex or whatever like I want >> she's like I want a real love.

[00:20:39]>> Yes.

[00:20:40]>> Where is the love? So I feel like that season it was kind of like him trying to prove to her and the and the other cast was like encouraging her to pursue things with West and so you know so after the summer they continue to like hang out with each other and she visited his family in Missouri at one point they went to a wedding together >> so they're like locked and loaded.

[00:21:02]>> Yeah, it's but there was no announcement of them like >> dating. Yeah, that's but it was obvious that they're like together. So now we got the basis.

[00:21:10]>> Obviously we just went over there's a lot other horror people in the show but that's not >> doesn't matter.

[00:21:15]>> Doesn't matter.

[00:21:16]>> Okay.

[00:21:17]>> Okay. So after all of you know them going to meeting his family going to the wedding news came out that West ended things right with her >> right >> and it was this big thing because you know supposedly he left her because he wanted like he was getting more fame and didn't want to like shut off his >> which is stupid as [ __ ] because she's way more famous than you you loser.

[00:21:44]Yeah. And she's extreme every I mean I feel like every guy wants to be with Sierra.

[00:21:49]>> But I like I understand if you don't want to be with someone just cuz like you're not like whatever if you don't want to date right now or you're trying to like keep your options open or you don't want to be tied down that's fine.

[00:21:58]I understand that. But just saying she was you were an accessory to her, not the other way around. It's that's just such a copout because that's what she was saying the whole summer and he was like or pursuing pursuing pursuing she and she's like if you don't want something serious that's cool but I'm not there.

[00:22:20]He pursued until he got her trust and then flipped. That's why it's so like frustrating to watch their storyline.

[00:22:28]Yeah. cuz like who hasn't experienced that kind of man that like cares about the chase and then once they've got you they're like okay now where's all the [ __ ] like irritating as [ __ ] >> Mhm. Yeah. So, and that was like a big point that she brought up and again during that reunion yeah he got ripped which you know to be honest I'm kind of like dude you kind of were asking for this.

[00:22:50]>> Yeah.

[00:22:51]>> Um >> so now her heart's broken.

[00:22:54]>> Yes. Heart's broken.

[00:22:55]>> Got it. Then you have season um nine and they're both on the show, but Sierra's definitely keeping her distance. It's like so funny when everyone shows up to the house, like when they first get there, like the first weekend. Um he's there and he's like, "What am I going to supposed to?" Cuz it's a few weeks or a few months after the reunion, he's like, "What am I going to do when Sierra shows up or is she going to show up?" And when she shows up, he's like kind of like like awkwardly cuz you know, everyone's saying hi and he's like going try to go up to her but like doesn't. And then as he walks up to her, she just pats him on the shoulder and just like ignores him.

[00:23:31]Like walks right past him.

[00:23:32]>> Correct.

[00:23:33]>> He's like, "Is this how the whole summer is going to be?" Whatever. I mean, they make it through, but he's kind of more on the what do you say like quieter side? I mean, he he has fun with the guys, but like he's kind of keeping his distance from Z. Okay. Okay. So, then we have season 10 that rolls around. Okay.

[00:23:49]Right.

[00:23:50]>> Yep. This is where the drama actually hits, >> correct? Yes.

[00:23:54]>> When When did season 10 come out?

[00:23:55]Recently, it was like >> last summer. Oh, yeah. Recently in February.

[00:23:58]>> Yeah. I was going to say it was a couple months ago. Okay.

[00:24:00]>> Okay. So, on season 10, people are, you know, you're seeing Wes and Sierra actually get along, which was a little bit shocking at first, but people are all about it.

[00:24:10]>> Okay.

[00:24:11]>> The cast is, you know, shipping them basically.

[00:24:14]>> What? Why? I don't I think >> they just broke up.

[00:24:17]>> I know, but I think that they had hopes that maybe >> That shit's annoying as hell.

[00:24:22]>> I know.

[00:24:23]>> All right, whatever.

[00:24:24]>> So, and as we all know, the season is still coming out, so we don't know how West and Sierra's like relationship ended last summer.

[00:24:34]>> The season's not even over yet.

[00:24:36]>> No, the reunion is um in May.

[00:24:40]>> Yeah.

[00:24:40]>> So, okay. So, it's Okay. All right. All right. I got it.

[00:24:43]>> Okay. So, you know, everyone's really excited for for them. You know, it's building up like the fans and the cast.

[00:24:52]Um >> that Okay. So, people are like, "Oh, they're going to get back together >> possibly."

[00:24:56]>> It's great news.

[00:24:57]>> Yeah.

[00:24:58]>> Because they are cordial and friendly to each other.

[00:25:00]>> Yeah. And like kind of being handsy and >> Okay. Slight flirting.

[00:25:03]>> Yeah. Some flirting.

[00:25:04]>> But isn't she like crying all the time to Amanda?

[00:25:07]>> Um Amanda has been like crying to her >> because of [ __ ] ass. Yeah, because her and Kyle are like really having issues.

[00:25:14]>> I'm calling him [ __ ] ass. He's annoying.

[00:25:16]>> Something that's interesting to know, Amanda obviously has known Wes now for a bit and so she's she you could also I thought maybe she seemed a little flirty towards Wes, but I watching it I was like, "Oh, well, they're just like best friends or you know, like a brother sister dynamic."

[00:25:33]>> Uh, all right.

[00:25:33]>> People don't flirt with their brothers.

[00:25:36]>> That's a good point.

[00:25:37]>> At least I hope not.

[00:25:38]>> Yeah, that's gross. Okay. So, Kyle, Amanda were fighting and news came out that after the season ended, um they well, it's not even news count. They announced that they got se they separated from each other.

[00:25:53]>> Right. Right.

[00:25:55]>> Let me read this.

[00:25:56]>> Can I read it? Yeah, you can read it.

[00:25:58]>> Amanda says, "After much reflection, we have mutually and amicably decided to part ways as a couple. We share this with a heavy heart and kindly ask for your grace and support while we focus on our personal growth and healing. It feels ironic to ask for privacy during this time since we've always tried to be open and honest about our relationship, but your kindness and respect will go a long way as we try to navigate our next chapter. Amanda and Kyle.

[00:26:25]Shocked is no one. No, shocked is no one. Okay. Y'all hated each other from the moment you met.

[00:26:32]>> Correct. He was being a psycho from the moment this [ __ ] met his ass. Okay, he he's drunk 24/7. He's irresponsible.

[00:26:43]He's also like 45 years old, mind you.

[00:26:46]>> I could not I couldn't believe it.

[00:26:48]>> The dude is old, so I don't know what you're doing, but And then she's upset all the time. Kyle, she's mad because he's out partying till the sun [ __ ] comes up and she's pissed off about it.

[00:27:01]And then they basically fight and then they [ __ ] and make up. Mhm. Right. He gets hypnotized by her stunning body and then he's like, "Sorry, my bad." And then she's like, "I'm Kyle." And then they're fine for like a day and then they fight again.

[00:27:17]>> Yes. What is that accurate? I feel like I did a great job explaining that.

[00:27:20]>> That was Yes, very accurate.

[00:27:22]>> Okay.

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[00:29:52]Okay, so now we are in February of this year and Amanda and Sierra go on to watch. Okay. Oh, really quick. Yeah, let me just really reiterate that Amanda and Sierra, like I said earlier, got really close this summer, last summer. And she also spent a lot of time talking to her about Kyle and her issues. And I'm sure there was times too, you know, Sierra was talking about Wes, but mostly about >> they're having girl chat. They're they're complaining about their men >> like besties. They really stick to each other like >> amongst the girls.

[00:30:30]>> Okay. Just really want that out there.

[00:30:32]>> So, they go on to watch what happens live with Andy Cohen.

[00:30:36]>> Love.

[00:30:36]>> Mhm. Andy asks Amanda who would be the first one to start dating her or Kyle and she answers me. Would that be crazy?

[00:30:44]And um there's a poll if the audience still ships I don't like the shipping thing. It's so weird. But still ship Sierra and Wes relationship. 90% says yes.

[00:30:55]>> Okay.

[00:30:55]>> Of course people love a good love story.

[00:30:58]>> People love >> and now that grandpa Kyle and Amanda broke up, they have to ship the other two.

[00:31:04]>> Right. Right. So, Amanda is asked, "Since the separation, has anyone from the Bravo universe slid into her DMs or asked her out?" She takes a quick second before answering and says, "Oh my god, no. Um, no, and I wouldn't even answer them if they did." It's a little questionable.

[00:31:21]>> Liar.

[00:31:22]>> Amanda liar. Amanda is then asked how long she and Kyle have been separated, and she goes, "Um, since October and then looks at Sierra and adds or November." So, I don't know, just kind of questionable responses from her.

[00:31:37]There was a theory that they were already living apart last summer, maybe still thinking they could work it out.

[00:31:43]And then Sierra comments that she loves Wes's ass in his jeans, and he asks her if she loves his ass outside of his jeans, and Sierra says very much so. So, she's playing along with the shipping thing. Well, and here's another thing is watching season 10, there's like moments where Sierra's like he's on parole, but it takes more work for me to not flirt with anybody than to just flirt with them. So, the flirting is happening, but she is saying like she's not interested. But, it's just I mean, I think that just TV wise, anyone's going to want a redemption arc.

[00:32:22]Plus, he acts like such like a little goofball of like, oh, like, yeah, I I would kiss her again. Like that kind of thing. So, it it gives like innocent redemption, like puppy dog begging for forgiveness, which is why this is so crazy.

[00:32:36]>> Okay. All right. Um, and then Amanda's, this is kind of a interesting answer that she gave cuz you said it was creepy to flirt with your brother, her brothers. Um, she's asked that now she's single, would she ever take any flirting by this by a summer house guy seriously?

[00:32:52]And she goes, "Um, no. Ew. I love my boys, but not in that way."

[00:32:59]>> Okay, stop calling them your boys.

[00:33:01]>> Yeah, that [ __ ] is disgusting.

[00:33:04]>> All right, so then we get to March.

[00:33:06]Okay, there was some rumors going around that maybe Wes and Amanda were hanging out.

[00:33:13]>> Mhm.

[00:33:13]>> Mhm. um just chatter online and it actually is true.

[00:33:20]>> Shocking. Yep.

[00:33:22]>> Shocking. So, while she's best friends with West's ex, then she's also hanging out with him after she also just got divorced, >> right? Sub he's not even divorced.

[00:33:34]>> All right. All right. All right.

[00:33:35]>> Um there was actually I for we I forgot to mention this. Um there was someone from Southern Charm that came out and said she went on a date with Wes during this whole timeline and um she saw Amanda later on and Amanda was like, "Yeah, I pregamed that date with Wes." She was at Wes's house before Wes went on a date with her pregaming with him.

[00:34:01]>> Mhm. Okay. Yeah. That's insane actually.

[00:34:04]But they're just brother and sister.

[00:34:05]That's why, >> right?

[00:34:07]>> You know what I mean? Like it's just brother they love, >> right?

[00:34:11]I call John my bro. He's my brother.

[00:34:13]Brother from another mother. You're not wrong. Okay. So, Amanda now has another statement here. We've seen the growing online speculation. So, while this is still very new, we wanted to provide some clarity. It was never our intention to purposely hide anything. Given the complicated relationship dynamics involved in the scrutiny that comes with being on a reality show, we needed a little space to process things privately before speaking on it. We've shown up for each other as friends and brother and sister over the years through all the highs and lows, and what's developed recently was the last thing either of us expected. Our connection grew out of a genuine, long-standing friendship, which made it especially important for us to approach this with care. As our feelings evolved, we wanted to take time to understand exactly what we were feeling.

[00:35:04]We also recognized that this has had an impact beyond just us and never wanted our actions to cause any hurt or be perceived as careless. We truly appreciate the understanding and respect as we navigate this.

[00:35:18]Okay. Yes. Very broad thoughts. That [ __ ] I just think that is such a [ __ ] weak thing to say. Like we never expected us to fall in love. I just all of a sudden was attracted to my big bro.

[00:35:32]Like they're just so I really just don't like her. She she she drives me crazy.

[00:35:38]>> I know.

[00:35:39]>> Our connection grew out of genuine long-standing friendship, which made it especially important for us to approach this with care. Doesn't seem like you're giving it a whole lot of care. IMO.

[00:35:49]Yeah. So immediately after this comes out, people are pissed. A lot of backlash. Um there was like reportedly impacted them with their brand deals that they had signed.

[00:36:00]>> Okay, that's stupid. Why?

[00:36:03]>> Especially Amanda like just she was getting a lot of hate that brands didn't want her representing them.

[00:36:09]>> Oh boy. Okay.

[00:36:10]>> Yeah.

[00:36:12]So people started to, you know, look into this timeline. They're wondering was there overlap, you know, with speculation that Wes and Sierra may have hooked up not long before Amanda and Wes went public, but that hasn't been confirmed. That's just a lot of speculation here. And then Wes came out on his um podcast saying that there was absolutely no overlap and when him and Amanda started, you know, >> right, they were both single. So it just in a lot of people started to comment on, you know, first episodes of season 10 like where you can see Amanda, you know, they're they're like joking around like like physically touching each other. She's sitting in his bed while he's with another girl.

[00:36:59]>> What the [ __ ] is going on?

[00:37:01]>> I know him playing with her hair. Just like >> well >> flirty stuff.

[00:37:05]>> Did you see this thing? So Sierra made like this comment a while back that he kind of flirts like a like a kid, but if she said, this is a direct quote, here's the thing about Wes. When he sits on you, he has a crush. And then later on this season, when they're allegedly not hooking up or anything, you see him come over and sit on Amanda.

[00:37:28]Where's Kyle during all of this?

[00:37:32]Is he just like around? I think he's the one on the phone behind him. Is he just like so he's just like there?

[00:37:37]>> Yeah. Like I I don't think people were phased by it at first because they just thought like >> that's just how a lot cuz a lot of them do act flirt flirty with each other.

[00:37:48]>> They're all like in sexual >> Yeah. You do see an incestual family.

[00:37:54]You do see Kyle's kind of like first ounce of jealousy this season in season 10 where um she they they skinny dip every year. For some reason at the Fourth of July party, >> he got so pissed that she she wasn't even skinny dipping, but she was wearing like a see-through bra and so she might as well have not had a bra on.

[00:38:18]>> Oh, I thought it was just a tan bandeau type of >> Yeah, but it was like see-through.

[00:38:21]>> Oh, well, it wasn't a band. kind of.

[00:38:24]Okay.

[00:38:24]>> And for some reason, >> he he was so upset about it. So upset.

[00:38:31]And he was saying it's because there's like this weird dynamic going on between them where she's not getting she's not giving him attention, but then she's >> getting naked with the boy. It's weird.

[00:38:40]But I feel like he's sensing maybe something because that like we haven't seen that jealousy from him before.

[00:38:46]>> No. No. Yeah. Mhm. Obviously, Kyle had to weigh in on the situation and, you know, he he said he was worried about Amanda's mental health and then makes a really random joke saying Carl's a mess. Like Haley like laughed at this one morning. We were talking about it and I was like, I don't like I it's just so random. Like he just >> she doesn't she doesn't get it. Well, and she was like, I don't understand how is Carl involved. That's the point is like he everyone everyone's like dying for Kyle's response and he's like [ __ ] with people and he's like yeah Carl's a mess about it.

[00:39:22]>> I like Carl.

[00:39:24]I'm team Carl. Yeah, I like Carl too. So Kyle went on to the So Bad It's Good podcast with Ryan Bailey, and he said that he talked to Amanda the night before they posted that statement about her and West and that he was actually more concerned just about all the bully and hate that she is getting >> Oh, I'm sure she's getting ripped online.

[00:39:47]>> Yeah. Then um he calls West out and says, "All I know is West seems to be the kind of guy playing multiple women at the same time. Somehow in all of this, like 50,000 people have decided that Wes deserves their follow.

[00:39:58]Meanwhile, they're just lighting up Amanda. I just feel bad because like Amanda knows that when what she did was wrong and she's trying to come to terms with it, but she is not well. So, people are hating on her but not Wes. Why? He gained followers, >> which doesn't surprise me, but why?

[00:40:15]Like, why aren't people hating on him?

[00:40:17]Because he's a male and because this is a double standard.

[00:40:20]>> I think so.

[00:40:21]>> Yeah. Some people did say it's like, well, because she was like best friends with S. They both deserve >> they both deserve the same amount of trash. Like, what the hell is this?

[00:40:33]>> He dated her, broke her heart, and now he's [ __ ] with her best friend. What the hell?

[00:40:40]>> It's literally just as bad as Amanda.

[00:40:43]And the fact that the fact that he is not getting the same response that she is, I just think is so [ __ ] up. And really, I can't think of another reason as to why that would be other than the fact that she's a female and he's a male. And I think it's just a double standard because people are used to men having shitty behavior. But when it comes from a female, then they like rip them apart even more. I mean, obviously I've just sat here and said a man is annoying, which I still stand by that.

[00:41:13]And I think what she's doing is stupid, but I don't think what she's doing is any worse than what Wes is doing. It's the same [ __ ] thing. Is it not the same thing?

[00:41:21]>> Yeah. No, I think it's the same. And to add to that, um Sierra and West were very clearly trying like this past um year after the summer. They were rebuilding their friendship. Um you know, he ended up going to her birthday party last year and Amanda didn't even go, but she was invited. And so they like they definitely had a friendship like we're rebuilding it for sure. So they're really both held to the same standard in my mind.

[00:41:53]>> And Sierra does comment on this. Um which she's going to get into. Yeah. I was going to say what's I want to hear from her. That's really the only person I give a [ __ ] about. These other two are idiots.

[00:42:04]>> Okay. So she did an interview with Glamour and it's really like the only time she's really spoken about it. And in the interview she was asked like why haven't you posted anything? and she goes, you know, I want to speak on it on my terms and I didn't want to just do it in like a Instagram post or whatever.

[00:42:19]So, when this happened, she said it felt like a betrayal, especially from Amanda.

[00:42:24]Sierra was asked who she felt had betrayed her more. She said, "At the end of the day, a guy is a guy. Whether or not West and I are working on a relationship, you just can't put anything past a man. But I just never would think that it would come from someone like Amanda, who has been what I felt like in my circle and in my corner for so long. I think that's the craziest part.

[00:42:43]Yeah.

[00:42:45]I mean, I'm not Yeah, I I get what she's saying. Um I also think she's like giving Wes too much grace. But yeah.

[00:42:53]Yeah.

[00:42:54]>> Also, like she can like I guess my point is that because she's the if you whatever you want to call it, quote unquote, victim in this, she can respond however she wants. You know, her her feelings are valid and obviously we're not no one else is in her position but her. So, I can't really judge her reactions.

[00:43:14]>> Yeah. She said just in general, it's really hard to go through this publicly.

[00:43:17]Um, she also talked about how a lot of her white housemates don't fully understand the reality of being black, especially on camera, and how there's just a general lack of awareness about how differently people of color have to move through the world. That I think is a really great point. Um, >> yeah.

[00:43:34]>> And I feel like I'm not the the person that should be speaking on this, but I I hear what she's saying and could imagine how much more stressful that is for her and how much she feels like she has to be so much more careful and calculated in the way that she responds.

[00:43:52]um because of the double standards that is in just in in our society when it comes to a black woman on TV versus, you know, a a white woman on TV.

[00:44:05]>> Yeah. Um she also talks about, you know, just navigating interracial dating publicly is very challenging. And um yeah, it just a lot of she did bring up race quite a bit just cuz you know she would get hate from people online for being in an interracial relationship was just ridiculous.

[00:44:27]>> That's insane. But also not surprising cuz people out there are [ __ ] idiots.

[00:44:31]Yeah. And then, you know, the whoever was interviewing her from Glamour was definitely trying to like get some more answers, but she said she's like she's going to release it all at the reunion.

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[00:47:13]>> And Andy Cohen flips out.

[00:47:16]>> Okay. I want to listen to the audio. I have been debriefed that I have gotten insider knowledge that um people are very controversial when it comes to the um you know releasing of this leaked audio and many people believe that it's [ __ ] up because because why? I still don't even understand. Haley, explain. That doesn't even make sense to me. Okay. So, I mean, and maybe you guys can um educate Janelle in the comments if you are like a big Summerhouse fan, big Bravo fan.

[00:47:51]Um, but basically from what I'm seeing online is that people think it's disrespectful to the cast members for this leak to be aired and shared and spread around because they they come and like pour their hearts out for this to be, you know, like a a big moment. And like like Sierra said, even in her Glamour her Glamour interview, she wanted to save a lot of her thoughts for the reunion and to have that spoiled without their permission and spread when it's not even in its full glory like is just kind of disrespectful to their time and energy. Now, that to some people is their thought process. To other people, they think it's already out there and I'm going to watch the reunion anyways, so who cares? It's I see a lot of discourse online.

[00:48:37]>> Well, I'm putting it in. Um, and if you don't want to listen to that's fine. You can skip forward. How long is it roughly?

[00:48:43]>> I think the whole thing was leaked, but um there's the whole but there's clips.

[00:48:48]The whole what? Reunion audio like 11 hours. I think >> clip um >> but there's only a few clips that are like actually important.

[00:48:55]>> Okay. Um yeah. So if you don't want to listen to it, you can skip forward, but I feel like I'm not going to be able to even understand fully what's going on if I don't listen to it. Like I need to I need to hear it. And I feel like that's how a lot of you are probably going to feel too. So if you don't want to hear it for whatever reason, that's fine. You can skip forward.

[00:49:11]>> Like you get to run a mock and every cuz everyone's your friend >> to be clear.

[00:49:14]>> And you get to manipulate people and say whatever you want today and get whatever you want. So >> fraudulent you something so you can be at peace with the schmuck that you are, >> but everybody else has a completely different interpretation of their relationship with you.

[00:49:28]>> But also, Amanda, why are you doing this?

[00:49:30]>> Like why? You went from being married, and I'm not saying your relationship is perfect, but you went from being married to being one of Westside [ __ ] That's crazy. This is unnecessary.

[00:49:39]>> The statement came out incredibly rushed because of how insane it all became like >> you got smoked out.

[00:49:46]>> So why did you feel >> No, there was a video that was out there and the last thing I wanted was for us to continue denying it and for this video of me taken in a very vulnerable intimate situation to be used as blackmail or released public.

[00:49:59]>> How long were you denying it?

[00:50:01]>> I don't I don't know what the video was.

[00:50:02]And would you even if the video didn't come out or would you >> a thousand% but if I >> where was the apology for Sierra in the statement apology because I asked you because I sent you a text message and I asked you when the rumors came out is this true you were like just >> and I 100% denied it and I lied to you like duh why did you >> because it was all so new and I was figuring it out. There were so many layers and complications to this. The fact that he was seeing other people, the fact that I was >> Is that enough of complications and layers to go, "What the [ __ ] are we doing here?"

[00:50:32]>> Yeah.

[00:50:33]>> We talked about it.

[00:50:34]>> So, it was so conscious that you guys talked about it. It wasn't just like a drunk hookup. You guys talked about it.

[00:50:40]>> It also started how [ __ ] weird it would be and you still did it. You chose to do it.

[00:50:44]>> Okay. But guess what? Sometimes you can't help who you like and who you are attracted to. That was >> You actually can't help that. You can >> not from Not from what you said.

[00:50:53]>> You actually can't help that. So you married again.

[00:50:56]>> I wasn't married anymore. Sierra, >> you're legally by the state of New York.

[00:51:00]You're so [ __ ] >> So I'm sorry, but when I'm separated from someone, I have to stay celibate and single for the rest of my life until the judge signs paper.

[00:51:06]>> Nobody say nobody was saying that you need to stay celibate or what the [ __ ] ever. But there are a million other [ __ ] guys in New York City, but you chose the one that you and you know how much that [ __ ] me up. You chose the one guy.

[00:51:19]>> Cuz you're a [ __ ] snake, Amanda.

[00:51:21]You're a snake in the [ __ ] grass is what you are. That is you're a snake [ __ ] grass and you should honestly just say okay because you know you are.

[00:51:27]You move silent but you're [ __ ] deadly.

[00:51:29]>> When Sierra confronted you and said is this happen and you did not >> Oh [ __ ] I feel like Amanda is trying to like play down the significance of what happened and instead of like this is obviously horrible a horrible look for her, right? But what she should have done in my opinion is just been like, "Yeah, you're right. I completely [ __ ] up. It was [ __ ] up.

[00:51:58]There's no excuse for it."

[00:52:00]>> You know, I take full responsibility for it and I'm sorry.

[00:52:04]>> You still do. Like, >> but instead, she's like doubling down being like, "Well, I can't help who I like. Um, I never planned this. I didn't choose to get intimate with him or, you know, have intimate feelings towards him. Uh it's not fair to say that just because I'm, you know, not legally divorced means that I'm not allowed to like be with anyone else. When I think Sarah makes a great point of like, yeah, but there's a gazillion dudes in New York and that's the one you chose to to [ __ ] with, >> right?

[00:52:34]>> The like especially after, you know, how much that hurt me? I just feel like that that really does prove I I agree with Sierra. I think she is a [ __ ] snake in the grass and I think that is so [ __ ] up to do. That's like if That's like if if if Jared broke up with you and I'm over here in your bed consoling you and then meanwhile him and I are [ __ ] around on the side. That is just like I think truly one of the most morally [ __ ] up evil things you could do to another person, especially your best friend and especially when like no time has passed. It would be different if like they broke up, years had gone by, you know, people had started to heal, the dust had settled, and then they started seeing each other.

[00:53:21]Like I think that would have been much more acceptable than those two. I mean, I don't I know that people say like, "No, no, no, nothing happened before we broke up." But like I don't know if that's I don't know if I believe that just because it everything happened so quick >> that it does very much seem like they had feelings for each other before Sarah and Wes even broke up.

[00:53:46]>> Oh yeah. I mean I there is something there in my mind or even if it wasn't there right then something formed because you know Amanda's been going through like you know bad things with her ex and that was really fresh and I just think it's what's shitty too is like Sierra said that her and Wes were literally like basically had a friendship at this point too. And so Amanda must have known that too. Like that's just another layer of like, oh, she's finally, you know, I don't know. I just think it's so I don't think it's right at any point. And this is one thing that I don't know.

[00:54:24]I've been really I've always believed is that if I have a friend and she dates somebody or whatever, I would never ever like put my eyes on them. Like would ever even look in their direction.

[00:54:40]Um really no matter what. I also think that that like there's no way in which you can she could be dating Wes and then be like still, you know, a girl's girl with Sierra.

[00:54:53]>> No, >> that is when your girlfriends matter the most is when you're going through a difficult time and they're there to, >> you know, be be there for you through it all. And you can't play both sides, which is what she basically was trying to do was like trying to console her, trying to make her feel better, trying to be there for her, trying to be a real girlfriend, a true friend, and meanwhile, you're like [ __ ] around with her ex on the side. Like, there's no situation in which you can do both of those things and not be a snake about it. And I I agree when she says like, "You're a [ __ ] snake in the grass." I think that that is so [ __ ] shitty.

[00:55:31]the rumors that were spiral like going around. We've I kind of talked about it with Briana Chicken Fry thing, but allegedly she knew about West and Amanda together at the Super Bowl in February and had told Dave Portoi, who then after Amanda's Instagram post, whatever was she made, he was like, "This is old news.

[00:55:57]>> Jesus Christ."

[00:55:58]>> Yeah. So it would there was um I mean a people that said they a lot of people said they saw them at the Super Bowl together. So that means back in like February.

[00:56:09]>> That's just insane.

[00:56:12]Yeah.

[00:56:12]>> What are your thoughts? You got anything else to say?

[00:56:16]Um, I think it is something that people are pointing out a lot that just like is one of those like Amanda stand up is like it's difficult cuz he was seeing other people and like like I think it was Mia that said in the leaked audio of like you went from being married to being one of Wes side [ __ ] and like what is the point of that? And um they say they started seeing each other in February and they say they got serious in February. So you're saying it went 0 to 100 all in February? my >> I have one conspiracy and my conspiracy is cuz I was watching an old episode where they were doing like a girls night and they were doing a truth or dare and they asked if you would ever cheat on your partner and Amanda was like, you know, I have to admit in my head sometimes I've thought about it just so that Kyle could understand what it feels like.

[00:57:15]And I do I do know they're denying any overlap. I do wonder though if there was a little start back when she was still married because she was so fed up with Kyle.

[00:57:25]>> I wouldn't doubt it.

[00:57:26]>> And had already said that she's already had those thoughts and this was years ago. This was like season I want to say this is like season four that >> and he cheated on her. That's a known fact at least once.

[00:57:37]>> Yep.

[00:57:37]>> And did and did weird shady things uh beyond that as well. So, there's been multiple instances where he's had sus behavior, and I'm not surprised that she even though I think this is immature and toxic, but I I would assume that, yeah, she probably was thinking of, you know, getting back, getting him back. And I just wish Sierra wasn't roped into that.

[00:58:02]>> So, do it with anyone else besides your best friend's ex. That's [ __ ] up. And and do people not just like think ahead and use their brains for five. How did you think this would end up online?

[00:58:15]You're a public figure [ __ ] around with another one of your castmates. What did you think was going to happen? Or did you not think at all? Clearly, you didn't think because in what scenario would this have ended up any other way other than you and him looking like complete jackasses? If I agree like is it really was it like is it worth it? Was it worth it? And >> a lot of people online have been saying if >> at first I didn't really like this take, but now it kind of makes sense. But if people are like it better be worth it and it they better last because at this point like why would they went through all of that, you know? They should they're made for each other clearly.

[00:58:53]Like this is such a big thing to do. So like you it's a full-on commitment. You got to commit to your bit basically. And it's just you know almost saying okay you got to take and accept what you're going to be given. Yeah. Blowing blowing up your entire life for a situationship is diabolical. Like if if they were like, you know, I just think that this is my soulmate or whatever. They're not saying that. They're saying it like they are confirming that they're [ __ ] around. But they are not confirming they're in a relationship. They are not confirming this can be permanent.

[00:59:28]They're confirming that they don't know and it's a situationship. Well, I think they're also doing that on purpose to try and dilute the severity of this um by being like, "Hey, hey, like we're just we're just like talking and like hanging out and like, you know, we're not it's not like we're over here like going to get married." I think they're purposely doing that to try and make it le seem less severe and like cut the blow a little bit.

[00:59:51]>> Yeah. Which is also kind of dumb because they've been seen out at a Yankees game kissing each other. the the camera was like focused on them for a longer period than of time than like the actual baseball game people were saying and then they go to like they've been seen together at you know really popular bars like not trying to I don't know I mean at this again oh and then recently Amanda made a weird post about how and it was like a picture of her dog and it was basically like I'm done I'm coming out from being in hiding I'm going to just keep start posting again like almost it just it was a weird I don't know they both are just giving me major X and that is some shady ass [ __ ] man. That is bottom of the barrel garbage. Yeah, as member of the itty bitty titty committee, sometimes I'm looking for a product that just give me a little bit of extra ump, okay, if you know what I mean. And just because I've got a small chest doesn't mean that I don't want good quality bras and underwear obviously as well. But that is where skins comes into play. You guys have heard me talk about SKIMS a gazillion times. Genuinely love their products.

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[01:03:23]Allegedly, everything was talked about and he claims every question was asked, so we'll find out more. But >> wow.

[01:03:35]>> Back to the leak, like how did this >> Yeah. So, who the [ __ ] leaked it?

[01:03:39]So, um it was discovered by a fan that I just I just found out that it was a fan who turned in um it was a from a production member like a member on the >> But what they leak it on?

[01:03:53]>> Um I believe Instagram first.

[01:03:55]>> So some So it was like a burner account just like put it up.

[01:03:59]>> I Yeah, because what once it got leaked it was just like everywhere like all over social media. So, a production member had the audio and leaked it on Instagram. I assume it wasn't their personal Instagram.

[01:04:13]>> No.

[01:04:13]>> So, it was probably a burner account that leaked it and some and they knew it' only be a matter of time before someone comes across it.

[01:04:22]>> Yeah. And so, it's right. Um it's at first they said there's no evidence that any member of the cast was involved in the recording of the audio and um Yeah.

[01:04:35]It ended up being a production production member.

[01:04:39]So just or yeah, someone on the production team.

[01:04:42]>> One of my friends has a conspiracy theory that Bravo did it themselves just to make this even more hyped than it already is.

[01:04:50]That could be a thing. Um Kyle Cook in on it.

[01:04:55]>> We can watch his Tik Tok video.

[01:04:57]>> Okay. Oh, and a lot of people think Andy in a recent recording he said that we're going to meet the fan who like filled them in about who leaked the audio. And >> how does the fan know >> that? Well, that's what we're going to figure out. I think on um Andy's weekly show.

[01:05:15]>> Is it like I'm wondering if this fan has some sort of personal connection to someone who works on production.

[01:05:21]>> Yeah, >> that's what I think.

[01:05:23]>> And was like, "Ooh, I got this. Check this [ __ ] out." and the fan >> and it screwed their friend over >> or their family member or friend or whatever. Yeah, that's my guess.

[01:05:31]>> All right, the conspiracy theories are kind of running wild.

[01:05:35]I've already been looped into one of them, so I feel compelled to give you my two cents on this audio leak, which is super frustrating and annoying. And Bravo takes insanely seriously. They are doing a full-blown cyber investigation.

[01:05:48]So, if you're the one who leaked, uh, you might want to seek cover or counsel.

[01:05:54]Here's my two cents based on finally listening to the clip. This was not a phone on set. Okay, everybody, if you do have a phone on set is it's like stuck behind a pillow or in a couch cushion so the cameras can't see it. And um I don't really see why anyone would gain having leaked this. And that goes for producers, crew, and bravo, right? This is someone clearly acting on their own with It doesn't even look like they got paid because the audio clip is everywhere.

[01:06:29]So, part two coming up. From what I can tell, someone took their phone and put it next to a speaker where there was a live feed, right? There's only a couple different rooms with monitors. And of course, then there's the actual set. And it kind of sounds like they were trying to be discreet because you can kind of hear them fumbling their phone in the beginning and the end. the audio itself from all the cast sounds like it's audio from our mics, right? Like we all have different volumes in terms of our actual voices. So, you hear it a little differently. Um, but there's just no way you could put your phone on set and capture what we're hearing in a way that would make sense based on the seating chart. So, it's also not crystal clear because it's not a live it's not an actual clip clip, right? It's it's a recording of something coming out of the speaker. And this audio is not mixed or mastered yet. This is live, so like they're going to change the levels and change who can hear what once all is said and done with with the final edit.

[01:07:27]>> Yeah. I don't think it was a cast member. I don't think any of them were stupid enough to do that.

[01:07:31]>> Yeah. Um, so this is what Andy said and he said, "Let me say that though this team of investigators was on it, a Bravo fan who you're going to hear more about cracked the case." He said, sharing that this unnamed person delivered crucial information that aided in the investigation. So, we we're going to hear more from this fan.

[01:07:50]>> I think the fan has a personal connection with whoever leaked it.

[01:07:52]That's my guess.

[01:07:55]But yeah.

[01:07:56]>> Wow, that's bad.

[01:07:59]Holy [ __ ] Now I want to [ __ ] Now I need to watch the Should I just skip right to season 10?

[01:08:04]>> Yeah.

[01:08:05]>> Yeah. Uh maybe do eight. Nine was not totally necessary.

[01:08:14]I mean, I'm still again, I was hopping around through them, but what I think about I I mean, if you want to just catch up for the drama, I think that the reunion is going to be worth it. Um, and >> Oh, a Bravo reunion is always worth it.

[01:08:30]>> A Bravo reunion is some of the greatest TV, >> correct?

[01:08:35]>> Out there. Okay. That [ __ ] is wild.

[01:08:37]>> Yes. And I think that 10 is fun to watch. No, not fun. Fun is a little mean with what's going on, but F 10 is interesting to watch because of the fact that you can pick up on these little cues of like Wes and Amanda being a little too close. Um, seeing Amanda and Sierra's relationship and then like just getting more mad for Sierra. Like um, seeing the way that Wes talks to Kyle about his like sex life with Amanda.

[01:09:04]Like it's just >> really psychologically interesting now that we know.

[01:09:10]>> I see. I'm almost having a hard time watching it because just like like when I don't know maybe because me and like my friends and I just would never do that to a friend and just like it's hard for me to watch them like when Amanda and Sarah are like laying in bed and they're like chatting and like they're they're just like best friends. I'm like how do you and like now knowing like what Amanda did. It's it's it's just it's so beyond [ __ ] It's honestly one of the worst things I've ever heard like happen to someone on TV. That is so [ __ ] up. I would be so I'd be so pissed if I was Sierra. So, what are your thoughts on this and scandal?

[01:09:57]Was Relle, what was her name?

[01:09:58]>> Raquel.

[01:09:59]>> Raquel. Was her and what's her face Ariana good friends? I don't remember.

[01:10:03]>> I remember that. Okay. My take on it. I know. Sydney and I disagree on this.

[01:10:07]>> Haley thinks they were I don't I think from Ariana's side, she saw well obviously saw her as like a friend. I mean, they didn't do much together. I from what I saw still was super super [ __ ] up with what she did, but I don't know. For some reason, this just like hit so like harder. I have changed my mind since we last debated that because Sydney and I were we were heavily disagreeing on the friendship aspect between Ariana and um Raquel. I now change my mind. I think cuz I don't think you can say one is worse than the other. I think you can say relationshipwise scandal was worse. The betrayal by the man was worse. This one they're calling it scum Amanda but people think it's kind of rude to only put it on Amanda.

[01:10:58]Yeah, it is [ __ ] and this >> I don't want to call it Scamanda because I think that's unfair. But anyways, for this one, um I think that it's worse friendship-wise. I think the friendship betrayal was worse. So, I think that they're they're equally bad in different connections.

[01:11:13]Yeah, I I think I would agree with that sentiment. Um and I don't think it sounds like Wes is kind of just skating by.

[01:11:21]>> He literally said like one sentence in that. That's just so ridiculous in my opinion.

[01:11:26]He's just as guilty as this.

[01:11:28]>> What do you think happened? Oh, some people think this is this is cracked summer house.

[01:11:33]>> What do you mean it's over?

[01:11:35]>> It's going to struggle next. Um >> I kind of have a feeling it's going to start to phase to fizzle out.

[01:11:41]>> Amanda and what's his nuts Kyle are not going to want to film together. They're getting a divorce. Like it's just I think it's like running its course. I think it's time to be done.

[01:11:49]>> And yeah, unless they want to try to make a new cast, which is going to be challenging because this has been on going on for >> Yeah. Well, they're spin-offs now, >> right?

[01:11:56]>> So, unfortunately, Amanda and Wes have new shows that haven't aired yet that are already filmed.

[01:12:02]>> So, In the City is one of them with which is with Lindsay, so she's going to have to face Lindsay at another reunion.

[01:12:09]Um, and then I guess the Ozarks. People were saying Oh, yeah. People were saying something about like maybe Wes wants to blow this all up because he doesn't want her to come to Ozarks with him because >> or Oh, another thing was that it was either Wes or Amanda. This is before it came out. Leaked it because they both knew they were going to get like kicked off the show. But I was like, that makes no sense. It makes them look bad either way.

[01:12:32]>> Yeah. No, >> I don't know. I think that's just saying I'm curious to see what happens at the reun reunion. I can't believe you had like a month annoying, but now I have time to catch up.

[01:12:42]>> Yep.

[01:12:43]>> Wow, that's crazy. Well, thank you for breaking that down. That actually makes a lot more sense now. I was really confused cuz I was seeing a bazillion things out there. Um, wow. Yeah, that is uh [ __ ] up. That's all I really have to say about that. I don't know.

[01:12:58]>> Yep, it is. Who needs friends when um you have Wait, who needs haters when you have friends like Amanda? Yeah, that's [ __ ] insane. God, what a shitty ass thing to do. And I think obviously we only heard like what was that a two minute clip from 10 hours? Yeah, from 10 hours of footage. Um but from what we did here, I think that was a trash ass response. She should be doing nothing but standing there with her tail between her legs and just saying I'm sorry and sucking it up.

[01:13:25]>> Yeah.

[01:13:26]>> Um instead of like fighting back and being like you can't help who you who you like and I you know >> you think I have to be celibate now.

[01:13:33]>> Like what a bunch of crap.

[01:13:35]>> Yeah.

[01:13:36]All right. Well, I think that's going to do it for this week, kids. Um, thank you for hanging out with us. Hope you have a wonderful rest of your week. We will see you back next. Let us know if there's any like specific um activities or games or anything you want us to do. I want to like I know the last this week and the week before have been like one topic kind of deep dive situation, but I also want to do like some more like fun segments and games and stuff. So, let us know if there's anything specific that um you would want to see from us. And yeah, that's going to be it. Thanks for hanging out. We love you and we'll see you in the next session. Until then, keep it fresh. Goodbye. Bye.