The Universe is made out of INFORMATION

Added: 2026-05-12

[00:00:00]You ever want to be two places at once?

[00:00:02]Well, apparently that might be possible.

[00:00:04]Hi, I'm Scott with Bill Whittle and Steven Green. This episode of Right Angle is brought to you by the members at bill whittle.com. And gentlemen, some scientists in Australia have proved something have demonstrated something for the first time. Even though the theory has been around for a long long time and people have been doing things based on that theory, they have demonstrated what is known as quantum entanglement. Now, I'm not going to get deeply into this even though I'm reading a book right now called uh Supermania Quantica, which is quantum supremacy. Um it's it is basically this crazy idea that little atomic or subatomic particles um can actually basically be glued together at a distance. Uh Albert Einstein referred to this theory and he hated it um as spooky action at a distance.

[00:00:58]And uh so these scientists in Australia have finally been able to demonstrate that it is possible for a particle to actually be in two places at once. Now, if you follow all of this, and I'm sure somebody will lecture me in the comments section about it. Um the challenge with uh with quantum entanglement is that we don't know where anything is until we measure it. I think Steve talked about Schroinger's cat recently. Um so until you open the box, you don't know if the cat's alive or dead. Um, and it just made me uh marvel first of all that there's guys building these huge machines trying to figure out how that they can how they can demonstrate this that somebody in Australia finally did provide physical proof that there could be um and and they're talking about these like atoms affected by each other that are galaxies apart is is possible.

[00:01:54]But in the little, you know, obviously they did this in the lab, so it wasn't that great of a distance. Um, Bill Whittle, this kind of thing seems right up your alley. Years ago, we did a show about particles that were were being measured after they passed through the earth. And um, and people were fascinated by that. But here there is a people kind of take the science and expand it and say, well, you know what this means?

[00:02:21]multiple universes, me being at two places at once. This opens up a whole new realm of reality.

[00:02:29]>> Uh well, hitch up your britches. Um because um I have been studying almost nothing but this for for quite a long time for the science fiction project I'm working on. And and many of the solutions that I've come up with, I don't claim to be a physicist, but I'm a good storyteller and I also know enough science to get the science right. uh have just never been seen before in science fiction. So let me just give you what the theoretical outlook is. My my attitude as far as a storyteller was everything that we have seen in science fiction has been based on relativity. Uh things like warp drives, uh wormholes, all of these things deal with relativity. And there's no question that Einstein's theory of relativity holds true in the universe we live in, which is four-dimensional spaceime.

[00:03:18]But what 21st century physics seems to be pointing to more and more, some of these theories are still pretty out there, but things like quantum information holography and so on, >> oh yeah, >> are are pointing to this.

[00:03:30]This idea that these two particles are entangled is not only possible but but certainly predictable because the universe we live in is a product as a creation. Maybe a projection is a better word of putting it of a substrate of of quantum cubits, individual quantum elements that project and create the universe every single tick of the clock. And the tick of the clock is firmy time, which I think is something like 10 -200 seconds. It's it's the it's about the length of time it takes the a photon of light to cross a hydrogen atom. So, you know, the speed light's pretty big. Hydrogen and pretty small, but but pretty convincing evidence that the universe doesn't actually flow. It ticks. It ticks very very very fast, but it ticks. And the the theory that is emerging is that everything we see in our world, including all the relativistic effects, are the result of an information layer that doesn't exist in spaceime. It's not it's not a microparticle that you can find. You can't go looking for it because it's not here. It creates the universe. And according to this theory, the substrata of of quantum information cubits communicate instantaneously across the universe and update their their states every tick of plank time >> unconstrained by the speed of light.

[00:04:57]>> Yes. Because the speed of light is is a the speed of light's mass increase as you accelerate. All that stuff are byproducts of the structure that these that these cubits create. So they're creating spaceime and all of the relativistic effects happen in spaceime including the speed of light as a barrier to communication or travel. But that reality is a projection of this layer of cubits that communicate one to another instantaneously.

[00:05:25]Although instantaneously means every tick of plank time which is essentially instantaneous. The consequences for this are so astonishing. They're as astonishing to us as relativity was to people who had grown up with Newtonian gravitation. And the thing that I like about this theory, and the reason I'm inclined to believe it's true, is that relativity did not negate Newtonian physics. Prior to Albert Einstein, predicting the orbits of planets could be done with a high degree of accuracy using Newtonian gravitation, Kepler's laws of gravitation. What Einstein did was Einstein said, "Let's not think of gravity as a uh as a like a connecting force. Let's think of it as a a a form of bent spacetime where planets travel around this curved space-time path." It didn't negate Newton, but it enormously enlarged on it and took predictability, that's what theory is, is predictability into much much much wider uh uh universe of possibilities. By the same uh analogy, this quantum information idea encapsulates spacetime and and Einstein, which in turn encapsulates Newton, but allows all kinds of really really really cool things to be possible. And just to put a final little button on this, some of the researchers who have been who have been working with the very first quantum computers which have I think maybe eight cubits or something in the universe has infinite number of cubits.

[00:06:51]But but some of the actual researchers at these labs are saying things like we don't know how the computer solved this problem.

[00:06:59]>> Our best explanation is that this computer communicated with other computers or other intelligences in other dimensions. So it's tapping into something that is a substrate of the world that we live in. And I am all over this man. I am all over this. Well, even even though I'm reading it in in Spanish, it is just mindboggling and exciting at the same time. Um, Steve, this uh this idea that um that we have now proved something or demonstrated something that made Albert Einstein say, "You kids get off of my lawn." I mean, um, it's just kind of but that's but that's how science, particularly physics, always seems to work because the next generation of of theory is always so groundbreaking compared to what came before that the that the dinosaurs of physics basically have to die off before the the the fuzzy young mammals can can take over. And it just it this repeats.

[00:08:08]>> Oh, I'm sorry. I interrupted you.

[00:08:09]>> No, you're on a roll. Go.

[00:08:11]>> Oh, okay. I'll go. So, what I wanted to actually open with is a quote that I read or heard so long ago and have never been able to find that I wonder if maybe I imagined it, but it was one of those old dinosaurs. Maybe it was Einstein, and you hate to call Einstein a dinosaur, but you know what I mean.

[00:08:27]>> I don't have no >> talking about uh quantum physics and the quote, which hopefully is real, and if it is real, hopefully I haven't mangled it too badly.

[00:08:39]Only two people in the world understand quantum physics and they're both wrong.

[00:08:45]>> They probably disagree at the very least.

[00:08:47]>> And they're both right.

[00:08:49]>> Yes. And they may.

[00:08:50]>> It depends on their state.

[00:08:52]>> They may they may be entangled.

[00:08:54]>> They may they may well be. Um, and this is where it's so fascinating because I remember as a as a kid being blown away by the revelation of spacetime being a thing, that there's not really a vacuum, that there is a fabric that that bends.

[00:09:12]And it was that 3D computer illustration of a gravity well. It might even been a a black hole, >> you know. So, it's the grid that that gets pulled down into that into that point. And that moment of revelation when I realized that that's a 3D representation of what's actually happening in four dimensions or maybe it's a 2D no it's actually a 2D representation of what's happening in multiple dimensions because it's actually not happening a being a point pulled down it's coming from everywhere and that's that's the bend and that was a mind-blowing revelation and then as As a somewhat older, very amateur student of this, learning about this information layer that is separate, unseeable, not constrained by the speed of light, yet now becoming predictable.

[00:10:14]This is the next big advance because once something is predictable, you can do something with it. And this this is where I'm getting really excited about Bill's project because he's taken this to the next level in what he's working on. And I haven't yet in my imagination.

[00:10:31]And uh Bill, you got to wrap this thing up so we can we can read it, we can see it, whatever it's going to be.

[00:10:37]>> I shouldn't give this away, but I got I'm going to produce a t-shirt and it's going to say it's the small letter C.

[00:10:43]The small letter C is the is the scientific representation for the speed of light. And there's going to be a red tag on it. It's going to say C and the red tag is going to say remove before flight.

[00:10:54]>> Oh, that's good.

[00:10:55]>> Well, and and Steve hinted at one of the things that made it possible for these guys to actually demonstrate this um and that is the effect of gravity.

[00:11:04]Apparently different than previous experiments. They used uh atomic uh particles that had mass uh not photons.

[00:11:14]Um, and so because of that, the effect of gravity allowed them to be able to to demonstrate something that would have been much more difficult if they had been using just just light. Um, this uh there's a a quote in here from one of the scientists who says, and and I'm translating on the fly here, so forgive my awkwardness. Um, imagine atoms moving in different trajectories in space. um they can experience different effects of gravity. However, quantum mechanics says that those atoms can can be in or follow multiple trajectories simultaneously.

[00:11:59]The stuff they're talking about with a straight face um is just phenomenal to contemplate.

[00:12:08]And I I just like the idea first of all of us constantly challenging our own thinking. I like the concept that somebody comes up with a theory and decades go by before anybody can can prove it. But people started building quantum computers and there are a whole bunch of different designs by the way of how quantum computers are built. One of the biggest challenges for quantum computers is most ways of doing it require that the temperature be just above absolute zero. And so it's really hard because everything has to be really cold. However, nature and forgive me if I say it, God has figured out a way to do photosynthesis which is essentially a quantum process at ambient temperatures.

[00:12:58]So it's not impossible to do this and the computing power that we are about to experience because of this kind of physics and these kinds of conjectures that are then proved by some people who are you know working away in a lab and and not getting to go on any dates with anybody. Um this is going to enable us to do things we can't even imagine even in our own lifetimes. I mean, if somebody had told you in the 1970s, "Oh, by the way, you'll have artificial intelligence that is so good that you'll feel like if you're having a conversation with it, you're actually having a conversation with another human being." That would have been hard to believe. Uh now we can't even we can't contemplate a machine that can calculate something in a couple of seconds that no previous earthly computer could have calculated on any time scale.

[00:13:56]I just wanted to throw that out there to see what happens in the comments section.

[00:14:02]For Bill Whittle and Steven Green, I'm Scott Odd. Thanks to the members at bill whittle.com for making Right Angle possible.