Levin provides a straightforward account of early American unity, though the historical narrative is clearly framed to support his modern constitutionalist perspective. It is an accessible primer on how colonial resistance transitioned from local grievances to a coordinated national movement.
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Mr. Producer told me earlier today, this is our 24th anniversary where I started on Conservative Talk Radio on Sundays on WABC in New York.
It was owned by ABC radio networks.
The program director was Phil Boyce.
It was a great great group and I did that for some while and they asked me to take on the 6:00 p.m. slot, then the six to n eight slot, then the 6 to9 slot, then syndication followed. But 24 years, great honor. Great honor on a great station.
Maybe a little bit more of that later.
We'll see.
I wanted to get into a little bit of history. We got plenty to talk about here, and I want to get into it with Iran and some other things. But before I do, you've you've heard of the Second Continental Congress, right? It met in Philadelphia. That's where the Declaration of Independence was drawn up and voted on.
That's one of the things we're going to be celebrating, of course, if not the main thing this year on July 4, 250 years ago. It's incredible when you really think about it.
But there was a first Continental Congress and I thought you might want to know about that since it's never discussed.
And u there's a lot of great sites if you want to go to them and look at them.
Mount Vernon has a great website.
History has thought.comhistory.com.
There's a lot of them.
But the first Continental Congress is ver as Mount Vernon points out convened in Carpenters Hall in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania between September 5 and October 26, 1774. Now remember, I've said many times really the Revolutionary War began before before July 4, 1776. In many respects, delegates from 12 of Britain's 13 colonies, Georgia did not show up, met to discuss America's future under growing British aggression.
The list of delegates included many prominent colonial leaders, Sam Adams of Massachusetts, two future presidents, George Washington and and John Adams.
delegates discussed boycotting British goods to establish the rights of Americans and planned for a second Continental Congress.
Now, the first Continental Congress was prompted by the Coercive Acts. The Coercive Acts known in America as the Intolerable Acts, which Parliament passed in early 1774 to reassert its dominance over the American colonies following the Boston Tea Party.
Now, the Intolerable Acts of 1774, among other changes, closed off Boston Port, rescended the Massachusetts Charter, bringing the colony under more direct British control. Across North America, colonists rose in solidarity with the people of Massachusetts, and desired changes to tax policies they found oppressive.
In Virginia, George Washington had participated in the authorship of the Fairfax Resolves, a set of resolutions aimed at discuss discussing colonist rights, particularly to not have to pay unfair taxes.
Now, remember the British significantly raised taxes because they've been fighting a war with France, also Spain to a lesser extent, over the territories in America.
It cost them a great great deal uh Britain and France.
In writing about the resolves, Washington recalled the treatment of those in Boston, remarking that if the people of Boston by their immediately under the lash by being immediately under the lash and considering the logistics of non-importation for the people of Virginia, in other words, they couldn't import anything.
Washington's support of using the non-importation as leverage against the British can be traced back as far as 1769 in letters between him and George Mason.
When the colonies first started publicly supporting non-importation of British goods, Brian Fairfax, a longtime friend of Washington's, wrote to him urging him to not support the Continental Association, instead petition Parliament.
Washington dismissed this suggestion, writing, "We have already petitioned his majesty in a in as humble and dutiful a manner as subjects can do, but nothing came of it.
By late spring 1774, nine of the colonies called for a Continental Congress.
Meeting in assemblies to discuss political issues was a colonial tradition, as each colony had held committees of correspondences in response to British taxes and to meet about local issues. Virginia's committee of correspondents is largely credited with originating the invitation for all the colonies to meet. Now, footnote there.
The convention of states that we talk about the second wave of amending the constitution.
The reason that is set up the way it's set up for those of you who are involved in that movement, millions and millions of you, including those who listen to this program, that convention of states is along these lines. a meeting of delegates sent from the states to discuss ways in which to amend the constitution which still requires ratification now by 38 states 34s of the state legislatures. So it's not something that can be rammed through by any means.
Let's go on. So the colonies elected delegates to the first continental congress in 1774 in various ways.
Some were elected through their respective colonial legislatures or committee of correspondents. As for Washington, he was elected with the other Virginia delegates at the first Virginia convention, which was called in support of Massachusetts following the passage of the Intolerable Acts.
Georgia was the only colony that didn't send any delegates to their first Continental Congress.
facing a war with neighboring Native American nations, the colonies didn't want to jeopardize British support and assistance.
So when Congress convened the first Continental Congress, September 5, 1774, Pton Randolph of Virginia was named president of the first continental congress. One of the Congress's first decisions was to endorse the Suffukk resolves passed in Suffuk County, Massachusetts.
They ordered citizens to not obey the intolerable acts, to refuse imported British goods, to raise a militia.
Congress's early endorsement of the Suffoc Raz was a clear indication of the mood and spirit in Philadelphia.
Furthermore, the delegates promptly began drafting and discussing the Continental Association.
This would become their most important policy outcome because the association called for an end to British imports starting in December 1774 and an end to exporting goods to Britain in September 1775.
This policy would be enforced by local and colonywide committees of inspection.
These committees would check ships that arrived in ports, force colonists to sign documents pledging loyalty to the Continental Association, and suppress mob violence.
So, you can see a lot had already taken before July 4th, 1776.
Now, the committees of inspection even enforce frugality, going so far as to end lavish funeral services and parties.
Many colonial leaders hoped these efforts would bond the colonies together economically. So they were taking on the British, their main trade partner, both purchasing and selling and was going to have a significant impact on on the colonies and on their economy. Here we are taking on the Iranian regime and the price of a gallon of gasoline goes up a buck or so and you'd think it's the end of the world quite frankly.
Now, Virginia secured the Continental Association's delay in ending exports in Britain. And before the Continental Congress, Virginia passed its own association that delayed ending exports to avoid hurting farmers with a sudden change in policy. You need to understand these colonies had overlapping interests, but they were very different in terms of what they produced. They were very agrarian, of course. They had some cities we would call, I guess, but they were very agrarian.
the cotton producing southern states uh felt like initially that what was going on in New England was their problem because they sold a significant amount of not most of their cotton to the British.
Now many delegates felt that using the Continental Association as leverage would be impracticable without explicit demands and a plan of redress. But Congress struggled to come up with a list of rights, grievances, and demands.
Furthermore, to only repeal laws that were unfavorable to the delegates without a list of rights would be a temporary fix to the larger issue of continued British abuse. To address these issues, Congress formed a grand committee.
All debate was stalled for weeks while a statement of American rights was debated at length.
Now, I doubt most of you even were taught this or know this. this first Continental Congress producing this statement almost two years, a little less than two years before July 4, 1776.
Now, producing this statement required answering constitutional questions that had been asked for over a century. The hardest constitutional question surrounded Britain's right to regulate trade. Joseph Galloway, a conservative delegate from Pennsylvania, insisted on releasing a statement clarifying Britain's right to regulate trade in the American colonies. But other delegates were opposed to giving Britain explicit rights to colonial trade. And during the debate, Galloway introduced a plan of union between the American colonies and Britain. The plan of union called for the creation of a colonial parliament that would work handinand with the British Parliament. The British Parliament would appoint a president general and the colonial assemblies would appoint delegates for a three-year term. They got very specific. But Galloway's plan was defeated in a 6 to5 vote. Congress put aside the debate over Britain's right to regulate trade and focused on the Continental Association.
I know I'm getting very much into the weeds here, but if I don't do it, nobody will.
And I also think everywhere I go, you folks tell me this history stuff is very, very interesting. So it's the 250th year. Congress later returned to the discussion or in this case the 252nd year. Congress later returned to the discussion of Congress's right to regulate trade and settled on the original suggested text by the grand committee and included into section four in the body's declaration of rights and grievances. So they had a declaration of rights and grievances.
and two years later they'd have a Declaration of Independence.
Section 4 states, "The foundation of English liberty and of all free government is the right in the people to participate in their legislative council." They wanted representation.
Now, this allowed for Congress to move forward in their discussion and assert their right to participation in their government, but did not explicitly place limits on Parliament's regulation of colonial trade.
So the first Continental Congress most faithful decision was to call for a second Continental Congress to meet the following spring. Congress intended to give Britain time to respond to the Continental Association and discuss any developments at a second Continental Congress. Washington went shopping for musketss and military apparel before leaving Philadelphia for Mount Vernon.
Also, he placed an order for a book on military discipline. Though war had not been declared and many delegates were still hoping for redress, there was no doubt that the American colonies and British were on the brink of conflict.
Many delegates learned of the battles of Lexington and Concord on April 19, 1775 in route to Philadelphia for the Second Continental Congress.
But now you know about the first Continental Congress. You don't need to know every little detail, but you know, it was a prelude to the second Continental Congress. But that first Continental Congress, they were already concerned that they would be going to war.
They already put a boycott on British goods and both ways. They wouldn't buy them or sell them. It's going to have an economic impact on the colonists.
They knew they were in for a big problem and it was a big-time war. I'll be right back.
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By the way, and we'll get into this a little bit more deeply later, the last people we need to listen to about what we should do in our country, about what we should do in Iran are liberal or left-wing people who come from Britain.
I didn't say conservatives.
talk show hosts, Britain has destroyed itself.
Or liberal or left-wing people from France as they've destroyed themselves or liberal or leftwing people anywhere from Europe because they've destroyed their whole continent.
I don't think we should be listening to them.
They can't even get their own act together. They've destroyed their own countries just like the liberal or left-wing people in America. The Marxist Islamists as well as the woke Reich neofascists are going to destroy this country if we don't stand up to them. But we will no matter what.
When we come back almost 13 years ago to the day, the Boston Marathon terrorist attack and I want to tell you about that related to this program because it was considered a very very famous time in radio. What took place then? We'll be right back.
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>> Mark Leven, America's think tank and you can call him at 877381 3811.
April 19, 2013, the horrendous terrorist attack on the Boston Marathon took place and um the two individuals the capture of Dazar Sarnar Sarnav uh his brother I believe was killed.
Right, Mr. Meduser?
In any event, my memory fails a little bit.
What happened was for the entire three hours of the program, Mr. Call screener at the time, Gunselman, Mike Gunsman, Guns, and my executive producer has always been there, Rich Cement.
Well, Guns was listening in on the police scanner.
He turned it to some channel. He was able to hear it.
and he was passing the information on to me, how they were tracking them down, the number of resources they were using, what neighborhoods they were in, what streets they were on, uh that they were hiding in a boat in Watertown, Massachusetts. Now, I was very very careful not to give up any information that might be used by the terrorists to elude the police officers.
That said, since they were on foot, they couldn't hear us anyway.
They were on foot.
And uh I remember getting a call from a senior vice president at Cumulus saying that's some of the greatest radio they ever listened to. I I mean we knew we were making radio history then, didn't we, Mr. Producer?
It was really remarkable.
Now we have a couple minutes of it. We can't play the whole thing, but I'll play you two or three minutes of it. It was at the very end.
You won't feel the the necessarily the full intensity of what was taking place that day because it was really quite remarkable.
Incredible.
And it was talked about for weeks and weeks beyond.
But Guns happened to have a a scanner and he could hear the uh what the police were saying to each other. Cut one. Go.
All right. Uh on the scanner, the media is trying to go through the back streets of Franklin Street instead of Parker.
Now you see this. The media is trying to get to the scene. That's how I take it.
Mr. Call screener, you two. The media, the slime balls are trying to evade orders and uh go through the back streets of Franklin Street instead of Parker. Now, obviously, I don't know where these streets are, but you people who live in those areas in uh in uh uh Watertown, you know where they are. Can always count on the media. Media is useless. By that, I mean the pretend news media.
All right. On the scanner, clear the damn media off the roof. What the hell's wrong with you media? Get the hell off the roof. You believe this, Mr. Producer?
>> You damn phony reporters. Get off the roof. That's what the cops are saying on the scanner. Get the damn media off the roof. They're trying to keep the area clear.
They're trying to secure the area.
They're trying to apprehend the terrorist and the media's getting in the way.
All right. On the scanner, all officers, hold fast. Hold fast. K9 units deployed.
All officers hold fast. Hold fast. K9 units deployed. That's pretty smart.
So that's what they're doing there. I told you, you're going to know it as faster than anybody else. Cuz I want to know it faster than anybody else. Not not because I want to be the first. Cuz I want to know. All right. They have a hostage rescue team. Wait a minute.
What's this? Do not move in on the boat.
HRT only. No tactical. HRT. That's the hostage rescue team.
Interesting. Again, they're trying to take him alive. Hostage rescue team.
They're trying to take him. I'm emphasizing this as much as I can because if it winds up that you don't take him alive. I know the nutcases out there are going to be claiming a cover up. All right, stop. Suspect in custody.
Suspect in custody. I'll be the first one to report it. Suspect in custody.
Say again.
Somebody screaming medics. Medics. Keep tight perimeter. Suspect in custody.
How about that? You've heard it here first. Not that that means anything.
Suspect in custody. Crowd is cheering in the background. You can hear that.
All right. They want to keep their perimeter. They're bringing in the medics. He's in custody and the crowd is cheering. And now you can see the police officers who were not at the immediate scene moving. You can see activity.
All right. On the scanner, still a hot scene. Still a hot scene. Keep tight perimeter.
All right. Well, you just heard last about 3 minutes, but that was quite a day.
It was absolutely wild.
We also have used this program in the past to advance our mission, especially on election eve.
In election eve, November 8, 2016, when everybody had counted Trump out and claimed that Hillary would win.
This audience has a massive reach. There are millions of millions of you and we reach every corner of the country. Some people say they're on 500 stations, 700 stations.
We're on about 450. And we're on stations that actually are listened to, not not jokes where people just run up the numbers. I don't waste my time with that.
We're on many of the biggest stations in the nation where all of you folks are able to listen to the program.
And so this is November 8, 2016.
November 8, 2016.
And again, remember 6:00 to 900 p.m.
when many voting locations, depending on the county, depending on the on the state, have final hours of voting and are about to close down. And people are in their trucks, they're in their cars, they're at the dinner table, they're at work.
And I do everything I can to get as many folks out there who are thinking about voting but haven't voted yet to get them to the polling places. I actually believe that when the day comes and I I decide to step down from this, which isn't right away, relax. That if when that day comes, I worry about it because I I think it'll hurt us. Which is why I fight hard on all these platforms. Cut to again November 8, 2016. Go. Let's get right to this. On election night, you need to know something. I am told.
Pennsylvania, Michigan, North Carolina, Florida, very, very close.
So, if you're in line, if you're in your car, you say, "Well, I don't need to vote. It doesn't matter." Actually, it I'm told it does matter. Not from the Trump campaign, by the way. I'm looking at independent numbers.
Pennsylvania, Michigan, we're all over these states. North Carolina, excuse me, Florida, very close.
Now, these are earlier states, so you can in fact make a difference.
So, I would encourage Levenites, stop whatever you're doing and get to your polling place. Many of you are in line, many of you in your cars, and uh it's very, very tight in a number of these states.
And then of course November 5th, 2024, this past election, cut three to go. I'm tired of these candy asses going on who've been hanging around forever telling us everything's going to be just fine. You should be very concerned about this election.
You just heard it from Lawrence O'Donnell. You just heard it from Jen Pasaki.
They're longtime Democrat staffers and operatives.
This isn't a debate or dispute over a little policy here and there. It's about our founding document. It's about our system of government. The Constitution is what protects us.
So, those of you who haven't voted yet, who are still thinking about it, you better get your asses to your precincts.
And I'm not kidding. You owe it to the country. You owe it to your family.
And those of you who are in line, thank you. Stay in line. Do not leave. If you can eat dinner later, do not let them dispirit you, wear you down. Stay in line and vote.
Because I noticed, and I'm back live, that on election eve, the media do the very best they can to discourage you from voting, that it's over, that the numbers have come in, and so forth and so on.
Mr. producer and I remember when George Bush, 43, was running against John Kerry and the numbers came in that John Kerry was leading George Bush in Pennsylvania by 16 points. You remember that, Rich?
Ridiculous.
>> I said, "Wait a minute. I'm from Pennsylvania. Nobody leads anybody by 16 points. That is that is a lie. That is disinformation."
And so I am proud of what we do here every day and I'm proud of what we do here on election eve. I'm proud of what we do here leading up to elections like this coming midterm election. I'm proud that we use this platform to provide you with real news and information and history and economics and philosophy and all those things that make talk radio AM and FM satellite so unique, so compelling. I believe it really does.
And this is a national show.
And yet it's a national show that discusses issues and matters sometimes local to your area or your state or nationally, but are always important. No matter who you are, no matter where you're listening, no matter how you're listening.
Very, very important.
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You know, the military and economic operations against the Iranian regime have been spectacularly successful.
POTUS is deciding how he will end it.
But he wisely rejects the lunacy of the left and the isolationists who demand lose at any cost. That is get out and get out fast. In other words, leave the regime where it can reconstitute its nuclear and ballistic programs.
where China and Russia can regain a foothold, where the Arab Gulf states are left without protection, and tens of thousands of Iranian people are subjected to more mass slaughter. And we're to believe that this will have a political benefit for the president.
Isn't that insane, Mr. Producer?
And I'm writing this now because this is the position of the woke reich podcasters. I was also thinking ladies and gentlemen and you are discerning people. You're smart people.
The vast majority of these people are elitists.
who've been in broadcasting or journalism and have failed. Almost every one of them has been fired.
So, they're left to do podcasting.
In and of itself, there's nothing wrong with it. But that's not where they wanted to take their careers. It's just where they wind up.
Many of them, if not most, are multi-millionaires generated by how many eyes they could be eyes in the mountains of Pakistan or whatever they can generate on their podcasts.
But on this issue of Iran, there are people rooting for us to lose.
There are people who are rooting for the president to fail, our military to fail so they can say, "Look at us. We were right."
But they were never right.
Whether we win the election or lose the election, they were never right.
Ever.
Most of them have been excommunicated, as I'll say, from MAGA and the conservative movement.
And now they're joining up with the Democrats and the left.
I predicted all this. I told you all this was taking place.
They don't have 24 years.
of principled, thoughtful, substantive, historic, philosophical, economic discussions with millions of you. They don't have it.
They never believed in the Reagan revolution. They never believed in the Tea Party revolution. They never believed in convention of states. And they never believed in Trump despite saying they do.
And the deceit is incredible.
Mark was never Trump. Remember that, Mr. Medusa.
I've explained it repeatedly, but it doesn't seem to matter.
For one day, I backed Ted Cruz in the primaries.
So did many of you.
And when Ted Cruz, who fought a great campaign, lost and Donald Trump won, you and I in this audience immediately supported Donald Trump.
As I've told the president, who's become a dear friend of mine, I didn't know you. I didn't know anything about you.
But we fought fair. That's what you do in a Republican primary. And there'll be another Republican primary. We don't believe in coronations. The Democrats do.
There'll be another hard-fought Republican primary.
President chose as its vice president somebody who said horrible things about him. But obviously JD doesn't believe that today and most of the podcasters have said horrendous things about the president.
So that's not the issue.
The issue is some of us are driven by principles and values and beliefs and these other people are driven by money.
I'm being honest with you.
I'm being very honest with you. Oh man.
Oh man. Chev. A lot more left. We'll be right back.
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Hello, American. Mark Leven here. Our number 877381 3811 8773813811.
One of the great things, good things anyway, that has taken place as a result of all the tomult surrounding this spectacular military and economic operation we're involved in is people have come out of the closet.
Have you noticed that, Mr. Producer?
They've come out of the closet. Their fangs are showing.
Their spittle is dripping. Their eyes are bleeding.
They've come out of the closet.
And that's good for you folks because now you know who hates America, who hates our military, who gives aid and comfort to a genocidal regime.
You know who hates Jews, who hates Christians, right?
who hates the president.
People who you thought you thought you could rely on, whose opinions you thought might make some sense, but now you know you can't.
And virtually every one of these people, as I was saying at the close of the last hour, is an elitist, is in journalism or entertainment, has no independent accomplishments of any kind.
And now you know what a bunch of frauds they are, what a bunch of bigots they are.
And there's a lot of them.
And that they are actually trying to elect Democrats in the midterm elections because they were never MAGA conservatives to begin with. Some of them even tell you that.
The president has pointed them out.
I've pointed them out. Others have pointed them out.
Some of these are people that used to be on cable TV. Some of these are people that used to write for British tabloids.
None of them could hold a job. None of them. They were either fired or left in controversy.
Others are comedians. Comedians.
And they say they represent the average man and woman.
How do they represent the average man and woman when they don't even talk to them?
They don't even talk to them. They They represent the average terror supporting Islamist.
They represent the average Holocaust denier.
They represent the average mental case.
And they interview each other. Mr. Have you ever seen anything like this before?
They just interview each other over and over and over again.
And then they're given headlines.
They're given headlines by these these sites, the aggregator sites. And here's the deal. The business model for all of them is to just attract attention, attract eyes.
And so there's no boundaries. There's no governor.
They have no self-control.
Why am I talking about that? Because everybody's asking me about this. I'm just explaining it. They have no self-control.
This is the nature of the beast.
And they think the more sensationalistic they are, the more perverse they are, the more bombs they drop, the more goons and thugs they bring on their programs.
the more attention they'll draw, the rubberneckers, the foreign bots, the foreign audiences.
This is what they're left to do.
One of them, Tucker, calls the president the antichrist.
The Are you serious? And then denies it.
But there's a video of it.
You've got Mediite that had an a founding editor, the executive editor who was fabricating quotes.
He's gone. We don't know where he is.
Where's Waldo?
What was his name again? I Oh, Hall.
What was his first name? Colobby Hall.
You got Piers Morgan who has a very controversial background with one of the tabloids in Britain. Now he does his own tabloid.
Not particularly bright. He's quite obnoxious, but he loves bringing on the Jew haters that he loves. Then he'll bring on every now and then a Jew to say, "See that? I don't support Hitler."
He's an idiot.
And of course, Megan Kelly, we've talked about a length.
I fear now that I'm propping up her sorry ratings. Mr. Producer, she's losing losing eyeballs left and right.
Now, we've been doing this almost 25 years.
And one of the reasons why I think talk radio is so important, these AM and FM platforms are so important, satellite is so important and so forth because we're not stuck in this toxic cesspool on the internet. By the way, the internet has a lot of good uses. It does. But if you live on the internet and that's your cocoon or that's your bubble day in and day out and you read the comments, you're getting comments from people overseas, from foreign governments, you don't know one from the other.
Some of the most vile things you've ever seen in your life and it affects people in a very negative way. Some people can't handle it.
I mean, there's that story out about the gentleman from Storage Wars who sadly took his own life that he was being bullied on the internet.
Daryl Sheets, who actually I like that show. I did like that show and I liked him a lot. It's been on quite a while. I don't watch it lately, but you get the point.
And then there's others. We find out that some of these literally some of these these killers go into these boardrooms or these dark rooms. People have different names for them on the internet where one person reinforces the next reinforces the next reinforces the next. I had a family member who told me, younger person, stay off the internet.
Stay off the internet. I mean, if you're going to go to Amazon, do there. That's great. If you're going to listen to something, that's great. But stay off the internet as much as you can.
As much as you can.
And when you do a podcast, there's no staying off the internet. The internet is there.
So the way you deal with this and then they say uh you can't do that is through freedom of association or disassociation.
Now what do I mean by that? We had a wonderful lady who called yesterday and said can we do something about this?
Can't the government do something about these people? No the government can't.
But we can. It's still a free country.
We don't have to watch certain people or listen to certain people and certain businesses don't have to platform some of these people.
So it's like any other capitalist endeavor. It's like any other market.
It's not about the First Amendment. The First Amendment applies to government interference and that sort of thing.
We're not the government. They're not the government and the platform is not the government.
But they act like they have a right to do what they do. Like the Jimmy Kimmel acts like I have a right to. No, you have no right to do anything.
None. You don't have a right to an audience. You don't have a right to a network. You don't have a right to any of that. None of these people do.
None of them.
We'll be right back.
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Welcome back, America. We're here with our friend Jim Jordan, chairman of the House Judiciary Committee. You know, Jim Jordan, I was born in Philadelphia. I was raised there. It's not the city I remember. I can tell you that. I mean, the DA is a nut. The mayor's a nut. A lot of nuts there. And now it's a sanctuary city. They have a sanctuary city policy. And I know you've been looking into this, right?
>> We have. We've actually passed legislation to deal with this subject.
Um uh understand Mark that in the United States almost a third of the country now lives in a sanctuary jurisdiction. You got 18 cities, you got 11 states, three counties, District of Columbia and because they're big blue cities, big blue states. It's 31 a.5% almost a third of the nation lives in a jurisdiction where the politicians tell local law enforcement don't work with federal law enforcement when it comes to enforcing federal law. And this is all part of the Democrats plan. They they four years of Joe Biden, they let in 10 million illegal migrants. Then they create sanctuary jurisdictions, which makes it tough to remove migrants who commit other crimes. And then they say, "We're not going to fund the guys who do the removing. We're not going to fund ICE.
Such a deal." That's their that's their orchestrated plan that they're they're carrying out. And we're going to we're stopping it. We've funded ICE and we're going to pass this sanctuary jurisdiction legislation. Hopefully, it's already passed our committee. Uh we want to get it out of the House and get it over to the Senate. But that's just how crazy the left has now become.
>> Now, what does that mean? What does this legislation do?
>> Well, it says if you are local law enforcement, you want to work with federal law enforcement, you get immunity. It says that we can we're going to restrict the money, the grant dollars that flow through sanctuary jurisdictions. If they've declared themselves, as Kraner and the and the elected officials there in Philadelphia have declared, then they are not going to be eligible for certain grant programs. You got to use the power of the purse. And then then we also say if you're a family or of a you personally were a victim of someone who was an illegal migrant, committed another crime, they failed to honor the detainer that I sent to the local detention center, sent to the local officials.
They don't honor that and instead let that migrant out on the street and they harm someone harm you or your family.
you will be able to bring a private right of action and go against that that entity who allowed that to happen to your family.
>> Well, if you peel immunity away from a DA or a city or something like that, that's going to have the biggest impact of all. Is that is that what you're doing?
>> Yep.
>> Yeah. Exactly. Exactly right. You get let you let the victim sue. Now, understand in 2025 17,864 times there was a detainer filed at a local detention center. So, an illegal migrant's in the jail for committing some other offense. They're in that jail. I says, "We're going to send a detainer notice to the jail or detention center. If you're going to let this individual out, give us a heads up. We will come to the detention center. We will apprehend this individual there and then deport them and deal with them in immigration court. We will we will deal with them." But 17,864 times last year in sanctuary jurisdictions, they said no. They gave ICE the finger and they released these individuals to the streets and thousands of that 17,000 went out and harmed someone else. Many times it was an American, sometimes it was another illegal migrant, but that was happening all over the country. And the left-wing political people say that's okay. No, that's crazy. And that's what we're trying to get at with this legislation.
And frankly, we may looking at we may be looking at more hearings on this to highlight just how ridiculous the left has become. And then you know and they control the Democrat party of course.
>> How is this any different from uh pre-ivil war this nullification by states of federal law, the supremacy clause and all this sort of stuff? I mean they can just nullify federal immigration law and say we're not working with you. That's not the way that works.
>> No, we need to we need to I think have some you know take the take this issue to court. We'll see what the Justice Department says. But I thought the same thing. This does seem like um like you said historically what what what the South and South Carolina were trying to do with nullification laws and um in an attack on the supremacy clause as well.
So um yeah, we this is something we're looking at. Also, uh I've been very impressed with Attorney General Blanch and what he's been doing. Um and maybe he'll he'll take a look at this issue u and and that specific concern regarding this issue.
>> Yeah. And I I think uh what you're doing is fabulous. I mean, if you're lifting immunity from these officials, uh, basically because they are not complying with federal law and as a result of federal law, people are getting killed and maimed and property is getting damaged.
>> That is a big deal. Am I am I properly explaining this?
>> You sure are. And and the guy in the Kraner, the guy in Philadelphia, he's taken it a step worse. Remember, he was the guy who went to the airport and said, >> "I'm thinking about arresting the ICE agents who were who were helping out who were helping the passengers deal with it when the Democrats had shut down DHS and impacted TSA." So, it's like he's taken it even a step further. That's how radical some of these DAs are in around the country, but certainly Kraner is there in uh in in Philadelphia.
>> Yeah. And he has no power at all to arrest federal agents doing their jobs.
None. Yeah, >> it's like this other buffoon. They passed some law. I forget where it was.
Maybe it was Illinois >> that they're not going to allow ICE in if they're wearing masks. They don't have any authority to say that. None whatsoever. What is with these people?
All all drama. Is that it?
>> Yeah. It's all left all the time. And it just it's a crazy. So again, remember, let in 10 million uh create sanctuary jurisdiction so it's tough to remove any of those 10 million who commit other crimes. Then you don't fund ICE, the guys who do the removing. And it's as if it wasn't bad enough that you doxed them. The these leftwing agitators doxed ICE agents, threatened ICE agents, harassed ICE agents, spit in their face, swore at them, in some cases, assaulted them. As if that wasn't bad enough. The Democrats didn't want to pay him. They still don't want to pay him. That that is how radical this has all become. And it's and it's the mindset that you see in the DA there in Philadelphia. That mindset now unfortunately controls the once great Democrat party which is now just simply a the vehicle of the left.
>> It's why a lot of people get hopeless about this. I'll be honest with you because they're saying here you have a political party that does everything it can to sabotage our laws to sabotage law enforcement to sabotage Republican efforts to do the right thing and so forth and so on. And now they've actually used the budget process, I should say. I guess the appropriation process.
>> Yep.
>> To try and starve ICE, who they're turning into the boogeyman because ICE is trying to remove these people. And then these billionaire leftists, they claim they don't like billionaires.
Well, they like a lot of them. And these billionaire leftists are funding these networks to uh obstruct law enforcement.
They >> sure are. That you you've explained exactly what's going on. And I I probably as I'm traveling around, I was in Indiana yesterday. I talked about just how this election is really this this are we going to let the left continue to take our country in this crazy direction cuz deep down the radical left, they don't like America. I don't think mom Donnie really likes America. When he when he was sworn in and talked about the the he said we're going to get rid of the fragility of rugged individualism and replace it with the warmth of collectivism, that is frightening. But that's where the left is. They don't like what this country's always given its citizens. You got a goal, you got a dream, you work hard, good things happen. They want to undermine it all. And it starts with this this policy they've adopted with illegal migration, with sanctuary jurisdiction, with defunding ICE. It is all about ruining this this amazing place 250 years, this amazing experiment in freedom we call America. And they're going to ruin it if we don't stop them.
Well, this sounds like fantastic legislation that can actually have an impact because you hit people in their wallet and that has an impact. And I know you need to go, Jim Jordan. You're doing a great job. We very much admire you here. So, God bless you, brother.
>> Same here, Mark. Thanks. You, too.
Thanks for what you're doing. See you.
>> You, too.
Good man, Jim Jordan. It's a great idea.
Make these bums pay out of their pockets. I'll be right back.
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>> As you folks know, I've been advocating the arming of the Iranian people, you know, properly training them and so forth, but arming them for months along the lines of what the CIA did during the Reagan administration, part of the Reagan doctrine. It was very effective. Very.
And if you want to take out a regime, that's how you take out a regime. If you want to ensure that they they won't go back to developing nuclear weapons and thousands and thousands of ballistic missiles, I don't know of any other way to ensure it than to have victory.
Containment isn't going to work in my view. Just my view. And I stated repeatedly, I stated repeatedly on Fox and so forth and so on.
And uh the president was asked about this by our friend Hugh Hewitt on yesterday's his yesterday's radio show.
Cut four go.
>> Look, if they had guns, which they don't have, if they had guns, you know, guns were sent and other people took those guns. If they had guns, they would fight back. I'm convinced of that. But, you know, you can't have an unarmed population against people with AK-47s and stand there, even if you have 250,000 people. So, you know, you started off by asking me, would I like to see them? And I'm very torn on it because they lost 42,000 people in the first two weeks. I don't really want to see that. They have to have guns. And I think they're getting some guns. As soon as they have guns, they'll fight like like as good as anybody there is.
>> They have to have guns. And I think they're getting some guns. I hope that's the case. But there's more. This morning, the president was asked about this in the Oval Office. Cut five. Go.
>> You said recently that if Iran Iranians were armed, they could take over their regime. Do you plan to arm them soon?
>> Well, I don't want to say that, but yeah. I mean, people say, "Why aren't they protesting?" They want to protest, but they don't have any guns. So, you could have 200,000 people protesting and have five or six sick people with guns and when they start shooting them right between the eyes and you see a guy fall and another one fall and you have no guns. Uh, very few people would be able to stand there and do it. I mean, I understand. I tell them not to. Don't forget, they killed 42,000 people last month. 42,000 unarmed protesters. They had no guns.
So, they had a 250,000 people crowd. And they had snipers. They had like four or five snipers in buildings up high. And you're standing there and all of a sudden the guy on your left goes down. than somebody that's what happened with a woman protest. They had 200,000 women protesting a year ago and everyone thought that was the end of Iran and then all of a sudden a woman dropped dead with a bullet right there always right there and another woman dropped and then the word started to spread and then there was panic and then they ran and you know so I don't I don't want that to happen. uh we don't need that, you know, we don't need it. But the only reason that they want to protest so badly, but they don't have weapons.
>> And he's diagnosed that absolutely correctly.
Absolutely correctly.
Cut six. Go.
I called everybody in, Gary, and I said, "You know what?
We just broke every record and now we're going to take a hit because we have to make a journey down to Iran to take the nuclear weapon. They would have had a nuclear weapon in within two weeks.
Remember we sent that beautiful B2 bomber in and we uh we blew up their nuclear potential. It was obliterated for those that are not aware and to a point where they it would take them weeks to dig down and we wouldn't let them dig down. We have our eyes on it all the time. But it was a very important thing.
>> Seven go.
>> So what happens is that we have uh a situation where we have total control.
As you know, the blockade's been amazing. It's like a piece of steel.
Nobody's going to challenge the blockade. And uh I think it's working out very well. We're going to see. I can say this, Iran wants to make a deal.
What I don't like about Iran is they'll talk to me with such great respect and then they'll go on television. They'll say, "We did not speak to the president.
We did not I just spoke to we did not speak to the president." So, they play games, but let me just tell you, they want to make a deal. And who wouldn't when your military is totally gone? We could do anything we want to them. Who wouldn't?
>> And then finally, cut eight.
Other presidents should have done this.
47 years they've been toying with these stupid people. In many cases, stupid people. This should have been done by Obama. He went the other way. He was giving them cash. He sent plane loads of Boeing 757.
Took the seats out and put green cash 1.7 billion in the plane. Every bank in Virginia, DC, and Maryland was stripped of their cash. They took out all the cash from the banks. They put it into a plane, a Boeing 757 packed with cash, and they flew it to Iran, and they let these guys just I don't know what the hell they did with it, but they took it and then gave him billions and billions of dollars and bribed him basically to be friends. And after giving them tens of billions of dollars, they screwed Obama. Okay, that's not the way we play. No, we do it the oldfashioned way. And they should wave. They're very proud. Maybe you won't see a white flag, but essentially that's already what they need. They should wave the white the flag, the white flag of surrender. In hockey they say uh uncle, right? When are they going to when are they going to cry uncle? But but and they have another expression. If this were a fight, they would stop it.
But you know, we have to go out and we have to do it. And it's it's very sad to it's very sad to see.
>> Very smart man. Very very smart man does exactly what he's doing.
And uh I think what he's doing is he's trying to decide the best way depending on their reaction, depending on the military input and all the intelligence input and all the allies in the area on how to finalize this.
My own view is not secret. Put an end to the regime.
Put an end to the regime.
Now, one question that keeps getting asked almost at every press conference is pretty disgusting.
Pretty disgusting.
And you'll hear it from the likes of Piers Morgan and Megan Kelly and Tucker and the usual reprobates who are cheering for the enemy.
But not just them. Not just them.
You'll hear from the Bernie Sanders, the AOCC's, the Talibes, the Chris Murphy's, real low lives.
And so, of course, it comes up with Pete Hegath who's really, really done a fantastic job. Let's listen. Cut 12. Go.
In recent weeks, both Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Israel's head of MSAD have stated their intent not to cease uh combat with the Iranians. Netanyahu put this on Twitter.
Israel's head of MSAD said Israel's goals are not finished until the Iranian government collapses. And so they're referring to the government that President Trump has brokered a ceasefire with and is working on a lasting peace um in the region with. And so that's, you know, something many Americans, especially American farmers, are hoping he does get to a lasting peace. And uh so if President Trump is successful in that and the Israelis are explicitly stating their intent to continue fighting at a later date, how can you ensure America doesn't get roped back into a war if that comes? And secondly, uh, with Netanyahu comfortable tweeting, >> stop, stop, roped into a war. See what I mean? And then secondly, would Netanyahu >> Go ahead. Comfortable.
>> Good.
>> And also Netanyahu has continued bombing Lebanon despite President Trump exposing your question is based on the false premise that somehow President Trump is being pulled in by Prime Minister Netanyahu to any of these actions. And that's where you're going. And just to be clear, President Trump has led at every step of this based on his view of American interest and America first. And we're grateful that Israelis have been very capable partners at many steps of this. And they may have some objectives that times that are slightly different than ours, but there's only one hand on the wheel ultimately directing this, whether it's Project Freedom or previously Operation Epic Fury, and it's President Trump. So, we're grateful for their input, their insights, the existential nature of the threat they face from an Iranian bomb, the capabilities that they can bring to that. But ultimately the coordination will happen with the leadership of President Trump.
>> Now they've said it again and again and again.
And then it's the line that the president's come under pressure.
You know, he can't make his own decisions. Don't listen to the wararm mongers and the war hawks. The wararm mongers are the enemy.
The wararmongers are the enemy. Don't listen to the isolationists. Don't listen to foreigners whose countries are a disaster.
The wararm mongers are the enemy and Donald Trump hasn't been pulled into anything. And yet this is the narrative the New York Times, the Washington Post.
You could hear the so-called journalists there. This is the narrative of the woke right neofascist isolationists. This is the narrative of the Islamists and the Marxists.
On the one hand, they attack Donald Trump for making the decision. And then on the other hand, they pretend he's not making the decision. These people do not have your interests, your best interests in mine, America.
An enormous 100% 92% of you back the president.
And interestingly enough, I just saw a poll today. Overwhelmingly, Americans think we're winning this war.
Now, let me ask you a question. Do you think it would be good politics for the midterm election if we turn around and say, "We've won. We're out of here."
What are the Arab states going to do that have taken us at our word? What are the people in Iran going to do? I know what the regime will do. They'll go right to the communist Chinese, right to the North Koreans, right to the Russians. They'll build 10,000 ballistic missiles. They'll build their nuclear warheads. Or they'll wait Trump out to the next president.
And I've heard the president say he wants to make sure that doesn't happen.
I've heard him say it publicly. I'll be right back.
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Marco Rubio held a press conference today because obviously Caroline Levit is out. She just had a baby on the War Powers Act. Man, he hit it out of the park. Something again I've been talking to you about for a long time. Cut 11. Go.
>> Look guys, I I love talking about this top. He's about the War Powers Act.
Okay. I love it. I was hoping somebody would ask. All right. Hold on. Hold on.
No. No. You don't let me answer. I got to answer the question.
>> Okay. And I love it. I'll tell you why I love it. Cuz even as a senator, I said something. The War Powers Act is unconstitutional. 100%. Now, this is not the position of me. It's not the position of the president of United States. Now, this is the position of every single president that has occupied this position since the day that law passed. It's completely unconstitutional. Now, we comply with it in terms of like notification because we want to preserve good relations with Congress, right? And we do that. But even as a senator, I would say that the War Powers Act is 100% unconstitutional.
And look, I know some of you, whatever you want to say, but this is not this president's position. That has been the position of every single presidential administration since the day that law passes. an infringement on the president's constitutional powers. We don't acknowledge the law as constitutional. Nonetheless, we comply with elements of it for purposes of maintaining, you know, good relations with Congress and we want them to be involved and we want them to be informed. I have gone on Capitol Hill, I don't know, four times this year for all senators and all house members and intel committee and gang of eight. We want them to be involved in this. But but I want to be clear on the point of the war powers act. It's unconstitutional and uh it every president and every administration has taken that position.
He's damn good, isn't he, Rich? He is really good.
Okay, the power hours next, hour three.
And don't miss it. We'll be right back.
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Killing off the country. Iran executes dozens, arrests 4,000 plus in a crackdown.
Dissident journalist says they're completely killing off the country as regime faces mounting scrutiny.
UN high commissioner for human rights vulkar Turk accused Iran's regime of dramatically intensifying its crackdown on dissident the wake of the February conflict warning tyran has carried out executions mass arrest torture in one of the world's longest internet shutdowns while invoking national security sharply worded statement from Geneva Turk said at least 21 people have been executed more than 4,000 arrested on national security related charges is as the regime faces mounting scrutiny over what he described as sweeping assault on fundamental rights.
I'm appalled that on top of the already severe impacts of the conflict, the rights of the Iranian people continue to be stripped from them by the authorities in harsh and brutal ways. He said since the start of the conflict two months ago, the UN said nine people have been executed. Well, many more than that have been. and over 40,000 were killed by the regime.
Turk warned that Iran's broad use of vaguely defined national security laws has enabled authorities to fasttrack prosecutions, deny legal counsel, and rely on conf uh coerc confessions.
Even where national security is invoked, human rights can only be limited where strictly necessary and proportionate, he said. Of course, they're calling on Thyron to stop, but Thrron's not going to stop.
For many Iranian dissidents, the findings reflect an already dire reality. It's very bad. Banana Zed, an Iranian-American journalist and editor of the Iran so far all Away Substack told Fox News digital they're completely killing off the country.
On Saturday, it was reported that Iran had executed another athlete, a 21-year-old karate champion, Sassan Azavoir Zunani, was detained in January during the anti-regime protest. He was executed by the regime last Thursday.
This is sick.
All these young people in March, Iran executed another athlete, 19-year-old wrestling champion Sali Muhammadi, for protesting against the regime. Turk's office said detainees have reportedly faced enforced disappearances, torture, mock executions, televised confessions with ethnic and religious minorities, including Baja, Kurds, Balac Iranians facing particular risk.
Among those cited by the UN was imprisoned Nobel Prize laurate Nargus Muhammadi whose condition sharply worsened Friday after what her family described as a catastrophic health crisis after months of being denied specialized care.
According to a statement from Nargas Foundation published Friday, Muhammadi was urgently transferred by ambulance from the hospital uh from the prison to the hospital after suffering two episodes, complete loss of consciousness and so forth, heart attacks.
The foundation said prison doctors determined her condition could no longer be managed on site after what her family called a last minute transfer that may have come dangerously late.
Ramani previously said Muhammad's medical team and outside specialists had pushed for treatment. Obviously, they want her to die. They're killing her.
Turk also cited dire prison conditions, including overcrowding, shortages of food, water, and medicine, and denial medical care.
The UN further highlighted reports of lethal violence in detention centers, including claims that security forces killed at least five detainees in in Kabahar prison after protests over suspended food distribution.
But while dissident welcome the UN's unusually forceful language, some also question whether condemnation without action can meaningfully alter conditions. It cannot.
It cannot and it will not.
And I want to say this to the Persian people, the the Iranianameans out there. I am sorry that there aren't more voices speaking out for you.
I'm very sorry. I'm very sorry that we have podcasters who keep telling the president that we should never have done anything to this regime in Iran who are telling him to get out. I'm very sorry that we have these same people who never ever mention the plight of the people in in Iran. It's none of our business. Don't pay any attention.
I'm sorry about these woke right neofascist isolationists.
Don't forget who they are.
Don't forget that. But these are very immoral people who have no feeling for their fellow human beings. None.
If they were in positions like this, they'd be begging for help. Most of these people, as I've said earlier, they are elitists. They are very wealthy.
They've not done anything for this country, for any country.
They haven't contributed anything.
They're takers.
They become very wealthy.
They're very wealthy.
Not because they invented something, because they developed something, because they bamboozled a lot of people.
There are some of us who are speaking out who are very concerned about the well-being of the Iranian people, but not enough of us.
And it's appalling. It disgusts me.
I was accused either yesterday or the day before of spreading anti-semitism by calling out anti-semitism.
That's the oldest trick in the book.
You want to defend your faith. You want to defend your heritage and your ancestry.
You're accused of of causing people to turn on it. This is sick.
This is the mentality we're dealing with. This is the same mentality that the blacks had to deal with throughout too much of our history.
It's the same mentality.
Know your place, keep your mouth shut.
Know your place and keep your mouth shut.
Or people are going to criticize you.
They're going to turn on you.
No different.
No different. Except the Democrat party has played a role in it as they did with blacks. Now we have these things called uh influencers, podcasters.
Same thing.
Same thing.
Keep your mouth shut so people don't turn on you.
Sick. These people are sick. I'll be right back. Mud loen.
It's a pleasure to have our friend Brett Bear with us, the the news mucky muck over there at Fox News. He's a real journalist. There's about a handful of those that I can count, Brett. And uh it's it's good to know you. Brett's written a great book, The Case for America. It's fresh off the printing press as it came out today. An argument on behalf of our nation, a thoughtful defense of our history, vows, national character in divisive times. Now, we spend much of the first hour of the program talking about the first Continental Congress, but Brett is a self-made historian. He's really good at this. He's written six other books, including presidents and so forth. But Brett, you decided to write this book on the 250th anniversary of July 4th, 1776, the Declaration.
Why?
>> Well, Mark, thanks for having me on. And um the reason I I thought about it was that uh America has been you know on trial in some corners and it seems like um especially if you look at social media and and online uh sometimes the negativity is overwhelming and you can go down into a death spiral looking at some of that stuff. What I thought ahead of the 250th was why not make a case sort of like before a jury of your peers. make a case with evidence and testimony and and really explain by history, voices of the past and voices of the present um why America is a great place and its better days could be yet to come. And and as you know, you've had me on for all six of these other books that I've done about six amazing presidents. George Washington, Ulissiz Srant, Teddy Roosevelt, FDR, Dwight D.
Eisenhower, and Ronald Reagan. And they were extraordinary human beings, but they rose above and they individually and collectively represent the story of America. What they said, uh, how they lived and they make a case for America individually in speeches and what they've done. And in addition to that, I went to people like Condisa Rice and Ken Langon and Tim Shrivever and uh David Rubenstein and all kinds of different political ideologies, but all had a story about how they were going to make the case for America and put that together and then came up with a verdict, which I don't often do in in my news show. Uh but uh I thought it was important in this moment.
And um it's also interesting you invite people you invite people to participate in your book if you will to tell their stories about what it is that they think is great about America. Right.
>> Yeah. So I have this the case for America.com and when we started this process I said we set it up that they could leave a video making their case for America 30 seconds or less. And we received dozens and dozens and dozens of videos. And I, in fact, on the show tonight, I I aired some of them. The top 100 that we select will get a book, a signed book from me. But you know what?
It's it's really encouraging. Um, all different races, all different backgrounds. Um, and not, you know, politically not saying, you know, one thing or another, but talking about the country overall. And it's sort of like a a cleanser, Mark. I really think that as we get closer to this 250th, this anniversary of the Declaration of Independence, uh it's important to remember how to be American and we are uniquely American. We are optimistic, forwardleaning. Um the King of England told us that in a speech to Congress, you know, don't forget to be American.
And that's pretty amazing.
>> The book is The Case for America. You can get it on Amazon.com right now.
They'll deliver it to you tomorrow morning or any major bookstore. It's a great book, The Case for America: An Argument on Behalf of Our Nation. And it really is a great book, particularly welltimed.
Do you ever get down a little bit though? I know I do. When you watch some of these these violent movements and so forth and the burning of the American flag and people pushing foreign ideologies and so forth and so on, I don't I mean I think we've had challenges in the past. I think this is a new and very complex one, don't you?
>> No, I agree. It's complex. It's not something that we can't overcome. I mean, we've talked about this before, how we as a country have been in very dark places. Um, you know, we don't get off the starting line without George Washington at the constitutional convention. We fall back into a second civil war without Ulissiz Srant and the grand bargain. We um in the midst of race riots um you know could have faltered and gone gone into a major major split. And yet the country is always resilient and I think we will be again. But the challenges are different and they're more insidious if you will.
you know, they're a lot of it comes after our kids in social media and what they watch and um maybe even, you know, what they study in school. Uh and that's one of the reasons I thought it was really important to touch base and to remember all of these great presidents, but more importantly remember as we get to this 250th what we're about. You know, I talked to Arthur Brooks and um he's a former head of AEI and you know, he thinks about happiness and all kinds of stuff. He does focus groups that include people from both the left and the right and um you know, how can they talk to each other? Well, you start out talking to the focus groups and you say you're going to talk about politics, they get their backup and they really are, you know, ready to go and then they say, you know, we're going to talk about politics in a minute. you all strongly disagree, but before that, let's spend the first 10 minutes and tell each other about your kids or your family and they start talking about their kids. They get very engaged and sometimes they forget about the political conflicts and they bond over experiences and things that we relate to. And basically what Arthur was saying was that this is the commonality, the the shared love. And his point for his case for America is it's a shared love for something that we have. And what can bring us together again maybe is what we love about this country, what we most cherish about this country. And it's really important ahead of July of this year.
>> It really is. And it really is important that we not, you know, roll up into a fetal position and give up ever because >> we got to fight for it. Yeah.
>> You got to fight for it. you got to fight for. You know, Reagan said we're one generation away and I think that's right. And um and we need to celebrate our strength and so forth and so on. Let me ask you this. Um I can think of at least half a dozen founders who emphasized and I'm sure you can virtue.
They said freedom means nothing if the people in the virtue and they talked about the constitution and they said look we can write this constitution but if the people lose their virtue it doesn't matter what we write if they don't want a constitution they don't want to adhere to a constitution then they're not going to have a functioning constitution and so forth and so on scalia used to talk about this too what do you make of that in the context of your book >> well I think it's imperative that we look back, you remember the founders were normal people, but they had tremendous courage. What they were doing, you know, in this declaration of independence and breaking away was, you know, treasonous under um the king of England. And yet they thought it was so important. Uh that fire in the belly is something that we have to remember uh as we, you know, we get ready this for this 250th. I have these stories. Basically, the case is an outline of four what I call dynamic truths about our nation.
And that is one, America chooses unity despite disscent. Dissent is baked in the cake from the very beginning. We should welcome it. We should say it's great, but also continue to be unified.
Two, America is a beacon of freedom.
Dwight Eisenhower once said, "Freedom under the law is like the air we breathe." And freedom is essential to be an American. Three, America has the gift of resilience. And I talked about that, but you think about all the things we've been through. Civil war, we've been through and most recently 9/11, COVID, financial disaster, and yet we always bounce back. And four, the land America is the land of opportunity. And it still is. There's a big class distinction between people who are doing well in the stock market and people who are really hurting, but we are still a land of opportunity.
>> Do you have time to hold on, go through the break here?
>> I do.
>> All right.
>> Brett Bearer is giving us a little bit more of his time. His fantastic book, The Case for America, An Argument on Behalf of Our Nation. You can get it at amazon.com right during the break, folks. So, I encourage you to grab it.
Any major bookstore. I'll be right back.
>> Mark the pen, the thunder on the right.
Call in now. 8773813811.
>> We are here with our friend Brett Bear, The Case for America. And it is a great book. Timing is perfect. The case for America, an argument on behalf of our nation.
You know, Brett Bear, I was in a Barnes & Noble yesterday and I hang out at these places. It's unbelievable. I'm such a nerd and I just hang out and I'm not really in the fiction section. I'm in the non-fiction and I'll go around.
I'll look and I'll look at these books and the history books and so forth.
There's so many books trashing our country and there are much fewer books promoting our country.
And that's why I think your book is so important right now. They talk about, oh, they're against capitalism. Oh, it's this. I don't even want to get into all of it. Your book is it's very inspiring.
It's like a bright light when you look at the shelf and so forth and so on, folks. It really is a great book. The case for America.
Where did you get the idea to do this?
The 250th anniversary. Is this something that's been percolating for a while?
>> It's been percolating for a little while. I mean, after writing about George Washington and Grant and Roosevelt's and Eisenhower and Reagan, each one of them has just a unique story. Um, but I thought ahead of the 250th, why not try to present something like it's being presented in front of a jury? And you know, one of the things about it was I wanted to incorporate those voices from the past and voices from the present. So, as you well know, Declaration of Independence, Thomas Jefferson writes that we have the unaliable right to life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness. But he didn't say Americans had the right to happiness. He said we had a right to the pursuit of happiness. And so, we're we're this nation of strivvers and there's no limitations on our abilities. And so, I tapped into that in in a present interview with Ken Langon, billionaire businessman. He's such a great guy and his story was really inspiring and just give me a second but I interviewed him.
He's the founding investor obviously of Home Depot. Uh he's grandson of Italian immigrants. He's raised in Rosland Heights, New York. Um his father is a plumber, mother's a cafeteria worker, paycheck to paycheck family. Whole pitching everybody's pitching in. He goes and works at a grocery store and there was next door to a liquor store.
The owner of the grocery store, his name was Lenny Altman. He hired him to take the empty boxes out to the curb twice a week for pickup. So, one day Ken saw the garbage guy breaking down the boxes and that guy told Ken he could make a lot of money from boxes by selling them to the salvage yard. So, Ken did the math and he he figured out he could make $4 a week from the boxes, which was twice as much as he he was getting paid by Lenny.
So he went to Lenny and said, "Lenny, I don't want to get paid anymore, but let me break down the boxes, keep them in here in a pile, and I'll take them once a week." So Lenny agreed. It ended up being a good arrangement. 2 and 1/2 years later, Ken was graduating from high school, getting ready to go to college. And Lenny called him aside one day and took him into the store where he handed him an envelope, and he said, "I hope you can use this in college." and the envelope contained all the money, every dollar he'd stopped paying him two and a half years earlier. And he told me that that gesture taught him about kindness and respect. And when Ken became successful, it's one of the reasons he became the philanthropist that he is. He made it forward based on that. And I just thought it was a really indicative story about how Americans can be American in in every way, shape, and form.
>> Yeah. And I don't think these are told enough. Uh I don't think they're told in government or public schools. Certainly don't learn about in colleges and universities where the individual, you know, in a country like this, you can actually make something of yourself.
And that's why I think this book is very, very important. It's called The Case for America, an argument on behalf of our nation. You can get it at amazon.com as I speak. Any major bookstore has it, too.
Do you ever have people if you go to a diner or something like that coming up to you and they want to talk to you about history or talk to you about one of your books, that sort of thing?
>> Yeah, more and more. Um, and I'm really happy to do it because it has been a a labor of love. And we've talked about it before, but you know, it's it's like this undercover under unc uncovering nuggets of history in the National Archives and uh piecing them together like a quilt and being able to tell a story that's readable ideally for young people in particular because I feel like my kids, two boys, 18 and 15, they they are missing in in history and civics in particular, civics, and we need to get our country back to a civic place. I think, you know, ahead of the 250th, maybe we should do the pledge of allegiance in schools again. I It's lost. It's a lost thing. And um I don't know. Yeah, I do have people come up to me and say they were moved by one book or another. And hopefully this one does that.
>> Now, you mentioned this fellow David Rubenstein, right?
>> Yeah.
>> He's a multi-billionaire. He's he's sort of a liberal Democrat, but he's very patriotic and he contributes to the National Archives. He'll buy the Declaration of Independence. Uh he contributes to uh Mount Vernon. He contributes to all these things.
>> And um what did you learn from him?
>> You know, his his family has interesting story and uh he he didn't grow up with wealth. Um but he you know is the head of Carlilele um obviously made a ton of money and decided it's almost created his own genre of philanthropy which is patriotic philanthropy and he redid memorials on the National Mall. He as you mentioned went after documents and preserved them in the Smithsonian. He's one of the reasons that um some of those documents are where they are. And uh he has a real love of history, has written books, kind of compilation books talking to historians uh and and doing interviews. He's got a real knowledge of the past. And his whole message was we should learn from the past and remember where we've been as a country because we've been in very dark places before.
and um as politically divided as we are and you're right he he's center left um he is uh says we can we can get through anything and that's an important message especially today >> I remember what document was it the Magna Carta I think he >> Magna Carta he bought >> it's kind of incredible and but when you go to the archives you can see these things >> you know I've done a little bit of this I got a one of 500 copies of the Federalist papers that Hamilton had printed in Philadelphia and there's a handful of them left, pretty expensive. I gave it to Hillsdale and um because it was sitting on my desk, Brett, and I'd write my books and I'd look at it, look at it, say, "This isn't right.
I'm the only one here."
>> Yeah. It's it's on my desk. It's just one guy, me, staring at it all the time.
But but it's very very incredible. And I get the sense you're that way, too.
Right.
>> I am. I really am. I love love all that stuff. I've got some some uh busts and I've got I'm collecting some artwork, but uh for the most part, I just love digging in and and reading stuff, especially stuff that is overlooked. And and some of those books that I focused on were moments in history that I think history overlooked. When Reagan gives a speech in Moscow State University under a bust of Lenin to communist kids saying communism will never work.
>> It's a pretty remarkable moment that history didn't pick up.
>> He had a lot of guts, didn't he?
Seriously, >> he did. He did.
>> Well, listen, you're fantastic. We appreciate the way you approach the news and um also your books are just terrific as well and you're a very nice guy and uh wish you all the best. Folks, you can get this book The case for America. It needs to go to number one. It really does. There's a lot of crap up there.
So, give it a shot. It's the case for America, an argument on behalf of our nation. It's the perfect time. You're going to want to read it. You're going to want to pass it on to other family members and so forth. Again, the case for America, an argument on behalf of our nation. Amazon.com. You can get it right now. Deliver it in the morning.
And we wish you all the best with this.
God bless you, my friend.
>> Thank you, Mark. I appreciate it.
>> All right. take care of yourself.
He works hard on these books. I happen to know that for a fact. So, I really encourage you to grab a copy of it. It's the the full title is The Case for American Argument on behalf of our nation, a thoughtful defense of our history, values, and national character in divisive times. It's the perfect pitch in terms of uh the tune and so forth, the manner in which it is written, and the perfect time because we need something like this. And there's not enough people reading books. I really believe that this is a book you should read. I'm sure there's an audio version as well if you prefer. I'm sure there is. So, uh, he's one of the good guys, that's for sure. We'll be right back.
>> Much love.
Let's see if we can take a few calls.
All right, let's try this. Katrina, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada on our satellite platform. How are you today? Serious satellite.
>> Oh, I'm great. Very happy to speak to you finally. I've been listening to you for years from Canada and I just want you to know that many of us are supporting you, Donald J. Trump and the war in Iran and we feel that it should be obliterated as soon as possible the regime to get the um Hamas Hezbollah the Hoodis and everybody who's funded by Iran off the Jewish people's back hopefully and pray to God that's going to happen.
>> So that's what I wanted to tell you tonight. Although there's a million things actually to talk to you about.
I've read your book. My grandson got me the uh book American Marxism and you are the great one. Honestly, we absolutely love you here in Canada. And I'm now parked underneath the American embassy, the US embassy, looking at a great little river that we have here. And uh we just love the US. We love Donald. We love you. I wish I lived there so I could vote for him and and all the Republicans.
>> Well, aren't you sweet? I mean, I remember when you had a couple of great U prime ministers there. It's been a while. Uh but I remember they were good.
Harper was a very good prime minister.
Uh gee, what who is one who moved to Florida who I met several times and really liked and I can't remember the name. I'm sorry I'm getting getting tired.
>> Money. No.
>> Money. I loved him too. Very nice man.
>> Very nice. Unfortunately, he's passed and his daughter is in the Conservative party now in Canada and Ontario.
>> So >> yeah, he was a big he was a big fan of mine. He watched Fox. He listened to me on the radio. I remember he came to Rush's wedding, Rush Limbbo, and he came right up to me. He said, "Mark, I'm a huge fan." I said, "Are you kidding me?"
He said, "No, no, no. I'm a big fan."
>> It was gets enlightened. Absolutely.
Absolutely. Anybody who listens to you gets enlightened.
>> Oh, thank you. Well, you're very sweet.
Please keep in touch. You're very kind.
Call again. And I noticed, Mr. Producer, we actually have a lot of listeners in Canada, don't we?
We get calls from Canada all the time.
Let's go to Dean in Montana, the great KJJR. Dean, how are you?
>> I'm doing really well. Thank you for taking my call. I'm close to Canada.
>> You are, huh?
>> You're in the northern part of Montana.
>> Yeah. About an hour away.
>> Montana's a big damn state, isn't it?
It's a big state.
>> It is.
>> People don't People don't realize. my backyard looking at. Yeah, I'm sitting in my backyard. I'm in the west of the Rockies and watching just looking at all the pine trees and my dogs wandering around. It's beautiful.
>> Let me ask you this. Your closest neighbor, how far?
>> Well, you know, I'm in a relatively uh tight community. I can uh barely see the house next door.
>> Can I ask a question? This is going to sound crazy to you.
>> Don't you get worried about the big bears and stuff out there?
You know, Callispel has grown since CO significantly.
Uh, I had a buddy that lived up the hill here from me and they used to see bears I every fall, but I haven't seen a bear for many years.
>> Really?
>> That's since co since co uh these small communities have grown um you know significantly. But that's what would scare me because there's really no way to deter those things. If they do stay they start charging you. You better pray.
>> Well, yeah, you have to be kind of bear smart, you know, you got to pay attention to what's going on. Um, they are they have certain behaviors that if you kind of learn about it, you can you can be safe even if they're approaching you and whatever.
>> What What else do you have there that's deadly? You have wolves.
Not many.
>> By the way, let's take your let's take his number because it's not fair. I was just curious about it. We're going to take your number and call you tomorrow, my friend. I apologize to you. We salute our armed forces, police officers, firefighters, emergency personnel, our truckers, ICE, the men and women in Ukraine, the men and women in Israel, the men and women in Iran, and you, the American people, red-blooded Yanks, the best of the best. See you tomorrow.
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