Can Jaylen Brown’s Latest Comments About the Boston Celtics Open the Door for the Miami Heat?

Added: 2026-05-14

[00:00:00]Should Miami try to trade for Boston all-star Jaylen Brown and what would it take to do it?

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[00:00:23]I'm [music] Wes Goldberg here with David Rmill. Today's episode is brought to you by Game Time. Download the Games Time [music] app, create an account, and use the code locked on for $20 off your first purchase. On today's show, we're talking about some of the fallout from the playoffs and how it can all impact the Miami Heat. And I want to start with Jaylen Brown, who has made some interesting comments in the wake of the Celtics getting eliminated uh in the first round. He went on a Twitch stream and called this past season the most fun that he's had in his career. I'll just remind people who might be unaware, this guy was a Finals MVP and won a championship a couple of years ago, and this was the year where they blew a 3-1 lead in the first round to the 76ers.

[00:01:03]Um, but he was the main guy, right, for 80% of the season. And then Jason Tatum came back and Jaylen Brown is going to appear on MVP ballots, uh, probably in that fifth spot somewhere, maybe even as high as that fourth spot. And he's quite frankly earned it. He had a great season. Uh, but now some Celtics fans are worried that maybe after all of this and showing this level of play, MVP caliber play, that he might want his own team. And then there was this comment from Tracy McGrady who is a mentor of Jaylen Browns. These two people are very close. And he talked about the situation with Jaylen Brown and the Celtics on a podcast and he said, quote, I think his frustration lies deeply within the organization and other things that we don't really have the details to. It's been a lot of stuff that I've been hearing just going on with the Boston organization with JB JB being Jay Brown.

[00:01:53]So, I think part of him is like, I showed you guys more of who I am as a basketball player, not only just what I did on the basketball court, but the leadership that I displayed within this team, and you've seen that not having our best our best player in Jason Tatum.

[00:02:07]So, all of that stuff, I think, just came into play with him and his frustration. End quote. So, there's a lot to get into that just right there, but that is a big red flag when you consider McGrady is again like a mentor to Jaylen Brown. You consider their relationship. Um, what do you think about all of this, David? Because it's really hard to hear all these comments from Jaylen Brown >> and now from Tracy McGrady. And by the way, this isn't like source reporting.

[00:02:32]You go, you can't go out and blame shams, Celtics fans. Doesn't work.

[00:02:35]Jaylen Brown is saying this directly on Twitch into cameras on his own. Um, and when I hear all of that, it's really hard not to think that Jaylen Brown is just ready to have his own team. And that obviously has a lot of uh uh there's a lot of uh ripple effects across the league and maybe even for the Miami Heat. David.

[00:02:54]>> Yeah, it makes total sense. I think fans tend to overlook how individual players view themselves as apart from whatever their team success is. Because as a fan, you're basically cheering for laundry.

[00:03:10]You're cheering for a team. It's all about these uh canned ideas of teamwork and working together and a big happy family when in reality it's always far from that. Now, there can be camaraderie, there can be friendship.

[00:03:25]Absolutely. And I think Tatum and Brown have done a pretty good job of trying to quash that over the years. But this is the first real season. I you started hearing rumblings about that even after Brown won finals MVPs. Like is he really the best player? Could he start to see himself in that way? And and now a couple years later, I think Brown has earned the right to say, you know what, I want to see what it would be like to be on my own, to be able to carry a team without having the shadow of Jason Tatum hanging over me.

[00:03:58]And I don't think you can blame him either, right? You only get one of these NBA careers. And if Jaylen Brown has already accomplished everything that he's accomplished in Boston, and it kind of feels like after even all of this, this is the ceiling for Jaylen Brown in Boston because it's Jason Tatum's team.

[00:04:13]And if Jaylen Brown wanted to go out and say, I want to see what I could do when it's my team, it's selfish. And I get it, >> right? You're allowed to be selfish. You only get one NBA career. And if you view yourself as more of a Michael Jordan than a Scottie Pippen, then it's on you to go make that happen. And by the way, one of Jaylen Brown's mentors other than Trace McGrady is Kyrie Irving. And Kyrie did this in Cleveland, won a championship with LeBron James, hit one of the biggest shots in NBA Finals history, and then was like, I've done everything I can here. I want to try I want to try to do it on my own. And he tried to do it in Boston, and then Jaylen Brown was drafted there. And and that's how they formed that relationship. Now, it didn't work out for Kyrie Irving, but Jaylen Brown is a better player now than Kyrie Irving ever was, >> and he's the type of player that you could say, well, he's a two-way guy.

[00:05:01]He's a wing. Like, these are the kind like he's at least the prototype of a player who could have his own team, >> right? Where Kyrie is a smaller kind of point guard and things got to go right in terms of the way that that roster has to be built and things like that.

[00:05:12]>> Sure.

[00:05:12]>> So, um I do think this is real. I don't I don't think that this is some sort of media conspiracy. Uh Jaylen Brown has been I mean it wasn't just the Twitch stream and it's not just these comments from Trace McGrady all season long while Jason Tatum was out. He was talking about hey I'm having a great time. Look at everything that I'm able to do. I was the guy that was sacrificing the most over the last few years and now you could see that.

[00:05:35]>> So if he wants to go out and be the number one option on a team frankly I think he deserves it. Like I I have no problem with that if he wants to try that. I guess my next question to you David is >> do you think Go ahead.

[00:05:46]>> Jump back in. I I was just wanted to say, you know, in in 2010, Dwayne Wade make the the active step to taking a backseat to LeBron James.

[00:05:56]>> That doesn't happen if he doesn't have the seven years prior in which it was his team and he won a championship almost single-handedly. He doesn't do that because it's about creating and crafting his legacy and he's not going to be Shaq's teammate and then segue into LeBron's teammate. It would have to he had to understand what it was like to be recognized as an individual in great before he could say, "Yeah, I'm willing to take that step back and sacrifice."

[00:06:21]>> It's a great point, right? And so now Jaylen Brown is trying to do the reverse. I took the step back. Now, let me do it on my own. Do you think Jaylen Brown is capable though of being the number one guy on a team that can be competitive and compete for a championship? Because I'm going to be honest, man. Like, I'm a little dubious.

[00:06:38]But based off the season we just saw, he has the star qualities. He has, this is a guy who was a Finals MVP. You do not take that lightly. Um, his mid-range game is the stuff of star players. I mean, his, you just look at his mid-range shooting percentages. It was right up there with Kevin Durant this year. I mean, he was an elite mid-range guy. He's really the one guy on Boston who can consistently get to the rim, which is a very needed thing. He can get to the free throw line. He's gotten better at that. There's some there's holes in his game for sure. I think he's overrated as a defender, but a lot of that comes with how much he had to do offensively this year. I think if you put him on a different kind of team, maybe there is a little bit he can he can, you know, use more energy on the defensive end. As a passer, I don't think he's great, but he's definitely improved over the course of his career.

[00:07:21]He can go left now, which is a nice addition to his game. Shout out Max Truce. But, uh, what do you think? Like, do Jaylen Brown number one option on a competitive team. Is that a thing?

[00:07:32]>> It's hard to say because we've never really seen it. like we've seen it during the regular season and I know he's been capable of of carrying the team for brief stretches during a playoff run and during the finals and things of that sort, but there comes a lot of pressure with that.

[00:07:47]But at the same time, he feels like he's like he's ready for that challenge. He seems like he's poised to take that leap to say, you know what, I'm tired of the way I've been viewed for the first few years of my career. Now I'm ready for the next step. And he has all the skill.

[00:08:00]Like that's why he was drafted so early.

[00:08:02]He was one of the top picks coming into the draft for a good reason. And I think he's gone above and beyond to kind of show that he's capable. So, he's been a good number two. He knows what that takes, but he's a guy who's also been capable of carrying the team. So, I tend to think yes. Again, weaknesses certainly, but I mean, you could say that about any star player. It's about building the right team around him and maximizing what he's capable of doing, which is something that Miami doesn't have. They don't have that star player who's capable of getting the bucket as easily as Jaylen Brown has this past season.

[00:08:34]>> I I don't know for sure that Jaylen Brown is that guy, but I do know that he's got a chance at potentially being that guy, and he might be worth taking that chance. So, we're going to talk about that here in the next segment.

[00:08:48]What exactly would it take for the Miami Heat to take that kind of chance on Jaylen Brown? Uh we're going to talk about what the Celtics might want in a trade and why the Heat might have to make one of the toughest decisions uh in its franchise history in order to try to get Jaylen Brown after this.

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[00:11:34]Uh we're talking about Jaylen Brown here and uh whether or not the Heat should pursue him if indeed he does go to Boston and asks for a trade because he wants to be uh the number one option somewhere else and kind of have his own team. So the next natural step in this conversation, David, is how would the Heat get Jaylen Brown? Um I've got a couple of ideas here. one is more of a nuclear option. But before we get into all of that, important to think about what the Celtics would be looking for if they traded their second best player. Um I think based on what we've seen this season and specifically in that first round exit, I think they need help in the front court, right? They they're still in the process of uh replacing Al Horford and Chris Porzingis and Luke Cornett. Big man help. I think that's going to be key for them. I think they're going to be looking for guys on cheaper deals, more team control deals because I don't after basically a year and a half of trying to reset the roster after Tatum's Achilles injury, I don't think they want to keep doing that. I think they want to try to build something and and make another run at this. And I think they're looking for depth um at probably every position, frankly. Uh, and so trying to so you got all that the Celtics are obviously going to be wanting stuff and they're going to be wanting a lot of stuff because Jaylen Brown's a really good player who again is going to end up finishing top five in the MVP race this year. So they're going to have a whole lot of leverage in this kind of conversation. He's also under contract, so you're not dealing with the extension stuff that that hangs over Jaylen Brown. So they if if they were to open up the phone lines on Jaylen Brown, I think the offers would be I think there would be a lot and I think the offers would be pretty robust. Now, the one hangup would be he's making a lot of money. So, stacking all of that money gets a little difficult for some teams.

[00:13:12]But for the Heat, one thing that does work would be Andrew Wiggins, who would have to opt in to his $30 million, >> Da'Von Mitchell, and Kel Wear. That alone makes the money work. And then I think you add the draft picks. It would pro I think it would be all of the the picks or something close to all of the picks. Um, and maybe you start negotiating for a Himemehz here or a Nikico Yoic there or whatever it is that might might else be might whatever else Boston might be interested in. But the the meat of that package I think would be Wiggins, Mitchell Wear and a bunch of draft picks. Um, what do you think about that idea for both sides?

[00:13:49]>> It wouldn't be Tyler. They wouldn't want to replace Brown scoring with somebody like Hero.

[00:13:54]>> They've got Payton Pritchard >> at the point, right? I I mean, >> and Derek White. I don't know. You could put I I think if you're the Heat, you could say, "Do you want Wiggins or Hero?" Yeah. And I don't think the Heat would flinch at either one.

[00:14:05]>> Either one. Yeah. I mean, I think Miami is kind of poised in a way that has a lot of what Boston would be looking for.

[00:14:12]So, that makes sense. Um, you before we kind of get into this, I I was just thinking though, even as we're talking about the Jaylen Brown option, is the offthe-court stuff a concern? because I know we're talking about whether or not Brown can be that superstar that helps usher the next era for Miami, but you know, he's already a little bit temperamental. Um maybe there's some concerns about whether or not he wants to slide into that role and how he's going to kind of fit into a locker room.

[00:14:41]And they've had problems in the past with guys like Jimmy and stuff like that. So, not to say that they're necessarily that Brown is necessarily a problem or anything like that, but I wonder whether or not they view Jaylen Brown as a superstar worth leaning into because of whatever perceived issues there might be. Or could it be the flip side of that where it's like, you know what, maybe he could be viewed as a problem outside, but given what Miami has gone through, they feel comfortable that, you know, he's a guy who's dedicated, who will put in the work, none of that off the court stuff matters. or whether or not he gets along with everybody, that doesn't really make a difference because he's they want to give him that opportunity to flourish into a superstar and know that he can reach that level here in Miami.

[00:15:20]>> Yeah, I don't really see the off the court stuff with Jaylen Brown. He's a weird guy, >> but I don't think he's a bad guy. I don't think he's or he he's not a guy who's getting in trouble the way that John Morant can get in trouble off the court.

[00:15:31]>> No, absolutely not. I should Yeah, definitely clarify that.

[00:15:33]>> It to me, his personality on the court is the concern, right? Like if your if if your franchise genuinely takes on the personality of your best player, >> do you want a Miami Heat team that takes on the personality of somebody like Jaylen Brown? I think that's a fair question, right? Because he is weird.

[00:15:53]He's a weird guy.

[00:15:54]>> Um and do you do you kind do you view him as the guy that can lead a locker room through the toughest playoff battles? Some people will be like, obviously he won finals MVP. How could he not do that? I don't know. I don't know that that Boston team really followed Jaylen Brown as much as it followed Jason Tatum and frankly Joe Manzula.

[00:16:13]>> So I look I think that's fair, but I also think that the Heat would really appreciate I think he's a smart guy. I think he's a really hard worker and I think he would appreciate all of that stuff and they would say >> Eric Spolstra is our Joe Missoula and Eric Spolstra kind of gives this team its identity and and so if Jaylen Brown could just fall in and be a two-way guy who's scoring 28 to 30 points per game, we'll deal with all the personal the weird personality quirks later.

[00:16:41]>> Yeah, you know I that makes sense. I I just sometimes you wonder whether or not a personality would come into conflict like even as we were talking about Kevin Durant in a recent episode like some people voice concerns about taking him into a locker room and you know they went through the whole Jimmy situation and that didn't end well but um at the same time Miami feels I think Miami sees themselves as having the kind of stability and uh just just consistency throughout every level of the organization that personalities come and go and they don't really have too much of a problem. It's more about any concerns with criminal issues or anything like that which Jaylen Brown has never been involved in. So that's not really a problem.

[00:17:17]>> So I think this trade package is really interesting. I I haven't done the work to go on the trade machine and like be break down what would Atlanta offer what would all these and by the way Milwaukee can come in just be like we'll do Giannis and Brown straight up and then Milwaukee be like or Boston be like all right great uh that solves a lot of our problems but >> beyond that I do think that a guy like Kell wear makes a lot of sense for Boston if you're looking to replace that Porzingis Horford stretch five type of player with a guy on a rookie scale contract like Kell that makes sense >> absolutely uh Bear would be a tough piece to give up, but I mean a guy like they they had in Chris Espingus that helped win a championship there. He would bring that rebounding edge and he could flourish there. So he's a young player, as you said, somebody who's in a team friendly deal because he's still on his rookie scale contract. He has room for growth. you know, you'd hate to give up a guy who's already carried you there in in Jaylen Brown, but at the same time, you could really sell yourself on the idea of taking on this potential to be, you know, usher in a new era of a big man in Boston, a guy who could stretch the floor and do everything else. And, you know, Gail has shown the ability uh at times to be a really really good player. And so, I I don't think it would take much. He'd certainly be an improvement over Nick Vuch, I think, even at this stage of his career.

[00:18:34]Um, I think and there's definitely room for growth, too. So, if you're trotting out Neimas Kada lineups and having to talk yourself into a vouch at this point coming off the bench and being, well, that's what we've got. That's all we have. Uh, I I certainly think that they would be happy to get a guy like where in exchange for Jaylen Brown.

[00:18:50]>> And then I I put Wiggins in there because if Jaylen Brown's leaving, I think you need another perimeter 3 and D type of player.

[00:18:58]and then Da'Von Mitchell who could provide some of that point of attack defense that they lost when Drew Holidayiday left. So look, I think if Boston's looking for depth for Jaylen Brown, I think the Heat have a great package. You could throw Haime Hakas Jr.

[00:19:11]in there and be like, "Hey, here's more scoring off your bench." You could throw in like a bunch of stuff in there potentially if you're Miami and you're engaged in some of these negotiation battles that could go down for Jaylen Brown. Or Boston could say, "We're trading a star player. We need that kind of star player back." Uh, and if that's the case, then I think the Heat have to maybe go with uh a more extreme option.

[00:19:32]We'll talk about that after this.

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[00:20:22]Let's say hypothetically, Boston opens the phone lines. Jaylen Brown wants his own team. We want to do right by our guy. Send in your best offers. Miami says Kell DaVon Wiggins are hero. Draft picks, whatever.

[00:20:35]Boston's like, "Thank you very much.

[00:20:37]We'll consider it." The Hawks come in and say, "Hey, how about Jaylen Johnson?" Oh, okay.

[00:20:42]>> Milwaukee comes in and says, "We'll give you Giannis. We'll just solve each other's problems." That's interesting.

[00:20:48]from Boston. Giannis with his injury history, all these things. I mean, it's some definitely something to consider, though. He's a great player. Doesn't exactly extend our runway, but we could definitely win in the next couple of years.

[00:21:00]We could talk about some other options, but I think those options, if the Celtics were looking for a star player, they would just beat Miami's like, no question, those would just beat Miami's best offer. Unless, of course, the heat go with the nuclear option, and that would be a straightup swap. Bam. met a bio for Jaylen Brown.

[00:21:21]>> And the only reason I bring this up, as much as it pains both of us to even have this conversation, is that if you took a neutral NBA observer who didn't have any allegiance to Boston and had no allegiance to Miami and you said, "Would you swap, if you had BAM on your team, would you trade him for Jaylen Brown?" I think 9.9 out of 10 people would say, "Yes." Why are you even asking me?

[00:21:44]because Jaylen Brown is a guy who's going to be on the MVP ballot. He's a 28 point or 30 point per game scorer. He's a superstar. Guy's a star. And Bam just is something short of that. But in Miami, he's also the foundation of everything that they're building. But you get to keep Kell, you keep all these other pieces, you keep your draft picks.

[00:22:06]And then you bring in Jaylen Brown, who is 29 years old. He's on the him the same age as Bam. Both of them are 29 years old. similar contracts. Brown is making 57,61 and 65 million over the next three years. Bam. 49 and a half, 53, 57 over the next three years. So, the money works where you could basically just swap them straight up.

[00:22:24]And if you're the Celtics, you say, "Now we have our answer at center, Jason Tatum's best friend."

[00:22:31]>> Yep.

[00:22:32]>> It makes a ton of sense for Boston if they're forced into the situation where they're supposed to trade Jaylen Brown.

[00:22:38]And for the Heat, it gives them the kind of player who could potentially be that number one option that they've been missing.

[00:22:46]>> Yeah, >> I hate that we're having this conversation.

[00:22:49]>> I do think it's a conversation worth having.

[00:22:53]>> I uh I agree with you 100%. I don't even like considering this possibility. And yet, if I were Miami, I think I would absolutely do it. I think you can talk to Bam to get his not necessarily approval, but just kind of run it by him. And for him, he would join a team with championship experience. He would join a team that has a championship window. He would join a personal friend in Tatum and an organization that would really accept and welcome him. And at the same time with Miami, you're kind of resetting without having to give up anything really other than ban. I mean, yeah. I mean, you're you're keeping all of your quote unquote depth. You're keeping all the role players and the ability to go build around Jaylen Brown, which is the key here.

[00:23:41]I hate it, though.

[00:23:43]>> I just I hate this idea.

[00:23:45]>> It would be so extreme. It would be so heartless and so ruthless, though. And it would be a little bit like when the it's not exactly this, but it would feel a little bit like when the Panthers traded Jonathan Hubedo to get Matthew Kachchuck and it just kind of completely reoriented the team.

[00:24:02]>> Yep.

[00:24:03]>> But you you traded away the homegrown star who loved being here, but then you went and got the guy that you know you needed for playoffs and and that was that and that was Kachchuck. You you knew you knew you knew you needed a guy like that to get over the hump. and the Heat have been missing a guy like Jaylen Brown for a very long time and if the only way to go get him is to trade Bam because I do think if you could you do the other thing you do wear Mitchell Wiggins the draft picks I still think despite all the fact that you're losing all that stuff now I get Jaylen Brown and Bam and I'll figure out the rest later they're both 29 same timeline I could figure the rest of it out but if you can't pull that deal off and you do feel like we are desperate for a change here in Miami and we have an opportunity to go get a 29year-old MVP candidate, but it's going to cost us BAM. I think at the very least you have to have that conversation if you're the Heat's front office.

[00:25:00]>> Yeah. I I also I'm not so sure if one option is necessarily better than the other. I think you can talk yourself pretty equally into both ideas. Um, look, I we heard Pat Pat Riley with a very strong vocal support of Bam and his presser, you know, Victor Webbyama and picks.

[00:25:19]Obviously, that might have been somewhat hyperbolic, but I think it shows exactly how much they value Bam and Abio. And yet, it might be important to kind of reset what this roster is capable of and and kind of change the dynamic that maybe if you're tying yourself to the future of Bama Bio, your ceiling might ultimately be limited. Now, we've seen, you know, that that's not necessarily the case that if if the roster, the rest of the roster is strong enough and if you have another superstar to play alongside Bam, I think you do have a championship window. I don't think it's necessarily one's precluding the other.

[00:25:55]And at the same time, I think you can make a strong argument that you just kind of build and maintain your depth because we've seen teams that with that kind of depth still be strong contenders. And and as good as Bam is for everything that he does, you have something that in Brown that you don't currently have on this roster and and yet you still get to keep a young player with lots of potential wear. You still get to keep all the other depth pieces around him. You could even make another trade for another superstar. Like I I mean the package for Janice Dempo didn't included BAM in the first place. So you could wind up being Miami and getting Jaylen Brown and Yiannismpa. I I don't think that's the kind of deal that you necessarily want to make taking on both of those contracts, but sure in in any kind of perfect world. Maybe you can tuck yourself into Kevin Durant and uh and Jaylen Brown on the roster.

[00:26:38]>> This is the most heat media thing you could have said was we did this with who? Damen Lillard. Let's Lillard and Bradley Beal or whatever it was. It was like >> Yes.

[00:26:45]>> Um >> also a very Yeah. unlikely option.

[00:26:49]>> No, but it's it's it's true, right? Like you if you do that, you maintain the flexibility to to do other things.

[00:26:55]>> Yeah. And if you are just banging your head against the wall every season, every season, every summer, every summer, we got to get a number one option next to BAM. And you keep failing at it.

[00:27:07]>> Yeah.

[00:27:08]>> Then don't you have to try something else?

[00:27:11]>> Uh but all that said, hell no, I'm not doing this. I don't want to live in a I don't want to live in that world. I want BAM plus the number one option. Let me live in that dream world for at least for now. It pain. You were talking about like Bam being like in Boston and all like seeing him in the green.

[00:27:28]>> No, I don't like forget it. Like all of the basketball reasons I hear it. No, I don't even I don't even want to do this anymore. I'm done with this. I'm done with this. Uh thanks for tuning in today to Locked on Heat. Make sure you subscribe and follow Locked on Heat so you get all of the latest episodes. If you never miss an episode, the Everydayer Club is built for you. Join the cookie gang and get Locked on Heat ad free, plus members only discord access and more. Head to lockdownheat.supcast.com to join the club.