The UK justice system has been criticized for inconsistent and potentially unjust sentencing, with cases showing significant disparities between similar offenses. In one case discussed, three teenage boys who filmed themselves raping two school girls received only youth rehabilitation orders with no custodial sentences, despite the brutality of the attacks. This contrasts sharply with sentences given to adult offenders for similar crimes, raising questions about whether the system is adequately protecting victims and deterring future offenders. The debate centers on whether the current approach of rehabilitation for youth offenders is appropriate for serious crimes, or whether harsher sentences are needed to ensure justice for victims and public safety.
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Three teenage boys film themselves raping two school girls in what is now being dubbed a brutal attack. They overpowered them, one at knife point.
And yet Southampton Crown Court, the judge there, Nicholas Roland, told them this. none of you need to go to prison today. Explaining his sentence, he said he wanted support to support the boy's reintegration into society, adding, I should avoid criminalizing these children unnecessarily. They walked three, of course, free with youth rehabilitation orders only. Well, the Conservative leader called the sentencing an absolute disgrace.
>> But what sentences? What sentences? I think it is a disgrace. The fact that these boys are not being that they're not going to a young offenders institution or anything else is a disgrace. The Conservative Party certainly is going to be making a referral about the unduly lenient sentence of basically nothing at all.
Um, and I also think that there is a message that is being sent out to women and girls which I am very worried about that people can sexually assault uh girls in our society and they can get away with it.
>> Yeah. The same judge gave a convicted sex offender, Daniel Rushton, a 12-month community order after he was caught with extreme pornography, including beastiality images. Rushton already had a suspended sentence for trying to engage in sexual communication with a child. The judge called it serious, but let him continue in the community sentence, saying, "Continue with the progress you're making." A failed asylum seeker, Sahel Amiri, housed in Southampton, of course, sexually assaulted three lone women walking to work. He got 36 months. That's the longest recent sentence from this court for these types of crimes, by the way.
And in 2024, two men who stole £76,000 worth of jewelry from a cruise ship received suspended sentences. The judge said it was impulsive. When rapists who film their attacks walk free with a slap on the wrist, that's what I think it is.
When repeat sex offenders avoid custody, the system clearly isn't working. It is morally bankrupt. We need sentences that match the horror of these crimes.
Because there's any any wonder to you at home, rape and sexual assault is on the rise in Britain. Especially when criminals, I don't care what age they are, by the way, get away with a pathetic sentence. And it seems to me that hardcore criminals, pedophiles, rapists, and others are getting endless second chances while victims live with trauma for their whole lives. This is why I get really furious when I hear politicians tell the public that this country isn't broken. It is broken. And until the politicians that write the laws, by the way, they write these laws that allow these sentences to be passed down, then you, the innocent British public, will continue to suffer for it.
We've of course approached Southampton Crown Court asking for comment from Judge Nicholas Roland on all the cases.
should get the thoughts of my panel for UK's 2028 London Mel candidate Leila Cunningham, editorial director at Guido Forks, Adam Cherry, and political commentator Andy 12s. Laya, of course, I'll start with you because you you understand this system. When people see things like this, it says to them Britain is in trouble. When rapists get away, even if they're young, without custodial sentences, when uh jewelry thieves stealing 76 grand a year get a slap on the wrist, in my opinion, something's not working.
>> No, but you haven't compared like for like. So, every um criminal that you mentioned was an adult. These were youth. And I've always said that we are too lenient with youth. For instance, in youth court, I've had the pleasure of being in it. You call them by their first name to make it easier for them.
So, you're like by their nickname. So, you're like, "Hey, Mickey, you know, I'm so sorry that you mugged someone at Life Point." Um, you infantilize them even though they've committed the most heinous horrific crimes. And the default position is non-custodial, >> except for murder, basically. Um, and this is what you're seeing yet. Sadly, this is a common occurrence. You know, I was in a I was in a youth court where a girl rocks up and she's got like a bandana and sunglasses and they're like, "Remove your sunglasses." And she's like, "F no." and she kicked a girl to the ground and kicked her in the face.
And we're all here for you. We're all here to support you. That's how Youth Court is, you know. We're here. And listen, of course, I believe in rehabilitating children, >> but it can't always be for the offender.
That's the problem. So, if if if if rape at knife point and filming it, gang rape at knife point doesn't cross the custody threshold, >> frankly, what the hell does.
>> Yeah.
>> If not this, then what? Rape is not some playground misdemeanor. It is the most serious of crimes. And I I mentioned the youth criminal justice system because we let them off so leniently at 13 and 14.
What does that teach them? Yes. You know, there are no consequences. I don't think it it emboldens them. It says, "Hang on, I can get away with this."
Well, hang on, what can I get away with?
And it makes them a victim of organized crime because they know that the court is lenient with them and they use them a lot in county county line drugs. Um, and I think that we're teaching them a wrong lesson. And sometimes the softest systems are the crulest ones. And this is what you're seeing here.
>> Adam, >> agree with almost all of that. You know, if you read the testimonies of these young girls, it's absolutely appalling.
>> Yeah, it's awful.
>> And and like Ila says, they're learning the wrong lessons from this. Yeah. This is not stealing from a tuck shop. This is among the worst crimes imaginable.
And rehabilitation is is one thing, but I think frankly, you have to think about other victims would be victims out there that need to be protected from people like this. These people need to be behind bars regardless whether they're I don't know exactly their their age they're teenagers right they know at that age they they know right from wrong at that do >> also rehabilitation should include repercussions because that teaches you to rehabilitate I grew up I don't know if any of you are very young seen the the film the accused with Jodie Foster >> no haven't >> she's gang raped by a bunch of uni kids it was very graphic very traumatizing that girl number one >> where does she is she going to see them on the streets >> you know >> exactly >> how does she feel Yeah.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Andy, I'll put this over to you. Is is our judicial system bankrupt?
As I say, morally bankrupt.
>> I think I don't think it's morally bankrupt. No, I think this is the incorrect decision. I think the solicitor general and the attorney general have both said that they are going to there's 28 days to review it and they said they're going to review it. So, I think that's >> do welcome that by the way.
>> Yeah, I think that's the correct objectively the correct decision. You know, I'm a leftwing man, but I think everyone will welcome that they are going to review it. I think you've had decades of underfunding of the court system, of the police, of social services, of schools, of all the you know because you a kid I don't believe any kids are inherently evil. I think that there have been failures across such a range of uh services within their lives that have ended caused them to end up doing this. And I think >> Well, you don't know that about these guys. We don't know anything about their their history.
>> Well, I mean, we don't know, but I I don't think kids I don't think kids are born evil.
>> Did you become evil at the age of 18 suddenly? Are you are you not evil at 17? I don't think anyone's born evil.
>> Well, I mean, but then then you you you can't justify every offender by saying you're intrinsically or easily you've been failed by the system.
>> Well, I think I think you know they probably have psychopaths not exist naturally.
>> I mean, I don't think they were psychopaths, were they? That would have been >> I mean that that is psychopathic behavior.
>> The I think I think part of the part of the case they were low IQ. I think that was part >> ADHD.
>> Yeah. But but you know that's that's interpret you can interpret that in many ways, can't you? Right. I guess just just come back to you for a second, Andy. To me, it feels like these we all the point of this is politicians write our laws. They're the ones who advise the sentencing council and we've seen Shabban Mood had to intervene with those with that with that group once before already because again laws that were going to be passed uh and guidance that was going to be passed was just begging begged belief, didn't it? Because it was saying that basically if you're a white British man, you should get a different sentence from someone who might be from a different different race or ethnicity, which is completely nuts. Is it a problem with our political class not having enough of grip on the judicial system? Or is it the case that actually we've got, you know, these bureaucrats running things that are really out of touch with society?
>> No, I I I don't think that the political class are to to necessarily blame here.
I I think the system's just broken. It's underfunded. It's over capacity. It's it's just broken. Like I don't think that's I don't think it's Shabban Mammud's fault. I don't think that's David Lamb's fault. I think that's, you know, decades of underfunding and not thinking about it properly. I I I just Yeah, I don't think it's their capacity.
Yeah, that's true. Is so same question to you. Is it is it a political class problem or is it the bureaucrats like because we basically politicians these days when you look at how government's run, it's run by a bunch of quangos, right? Sentencing guidelines are very very important in courts and they are not it's not being written by politicians.
>> Well, it's both these things, isn't it?
It's I think Andy, you're touching on this a little bit. It's a it's a failure of not just one party, of multiple of successive governments over many many years. It's not right to to pin the blame on on any one of them. It's it's a cultural issue with the political system more deeply. I mean, I was in >> How have we got here? How have we got it here?
>> Well, I mean, we've been here all day talking about that.
>> I think I I I think just going back to the fundamental of this case is I think >> the youth criminal justice system is broken. Because when we protect youth offenders from consequences for their crime, we're not really protecting them from crime. We're actually embolding them for a lifetime of crime.
>> What do we do? What do we do? Well, I I I think that youth if you're under so if you're 17 and you commit the same crime that you were 18, the sentencing is totally different. And my point is 17 18 >> then you keep going. You know, 17 16 >> or 13 14 in this instance. If you if you commit an adult crime that's so horrific like this, I think number one, we have to focus on the justice for the victim, which in this case, she has had none.
But you also have to focus on >> this is wrong.
>> Yeah.
>> You're going to be punished.
>> Mhm. and you're going to be punished really badly, so you never do it again.
>> Yeah. Safety of the community, protecting potential future victims, right?
>> You know.
>> Yeah. I I guess Andy, is it is it we need to we need to get tougher on kids?
Do we need because we keep seeing these crimes being committed by kids? We're going to talk later on in the show about what's going on in Clappam today because it's absolutely ridiculous what's happening there. It's just a riot basically happening in just parts of London breaking out because it's all young people by the way, isn't it? As we've seen some of it, we've seen some violent scenes and things like that. Is there a problem with young people in Britain? is do they do they care about consequences?
>> I think I think they do. I think young people in Britain I don't think there's one you can't just paint them with with a single brush. I think on uh on this you know non-custodial is the default because young offended institutes are at capacity and the kids that do end up in them do end up going into a career of crime and you know they're not fit for purpose and I think there does need to be serious reform because you know >> what would you do then? What would you do?
>> I'm not a judge. I'm not honest. I mean, no, but would would you see do you think we should be, you know, less harsh on on young young kids who commit crimes like this?
>> Uh, I don't think we should write them off entirely because, you know, they're young kids, you know, I think they should definitely face repercussions cuz it's an awful, terrible crime, but I don't think they should have their entire lives if they, you know, live until 70, 80 defined by something they did at 13 or 14, if they have changed and been rehabilitated. I think rehabilitation is where we need to focus.
>> Yeah. I I guess the the thing that worries me, right, is that the next government that comes in is going to have demands for much uh much better law and order in this country. That means a complete review of everything from sentencing council to guidelines to justice to police. They need to fix the NHS. They need to fix our borders.
There's just like so much going on in Britain. It just seems like a mountain to fix this country.
>> I think it is it is an outofouch political class, right? Who doesn't who don't live with the consequences of their policies? They're shielded from it in a way. And I think >> they feel that they're doing God's work.
You know, we're protecting children. You know, we're letting immigrants in who have gone through so much pain and and and in Afghanistan or Iran, but they don't suffer from the consequences. And I think >> because we cause the pain.
>> Well, I mean that that's your argument, but even if we >> we were the ones dropping the bombs, >> to be honest, the funding duty of a government is not a duty to the people coming in. It's a duty to keep the people safe here. and that people feel they're not prioritized anymore, rightly.
>> Yeah. And we're going to talk about the Afghan crime wave later on in the show, so stay tuned for that cuz I there's a lot of cases there that I think are going to shock you. Some we can't talk about because there's active cases going on, but you would have seen a lot of it in the in the news lately, wouldn't you?
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Maybe we're getting there. Sorry. Um, is this a deserved gift to those who put in those extra hours? I mean, I do a lot of overtime here, don't I? Um, or is it an unaffordable gimmick? That's next.
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Welcome back everybody. Well, Nigel Farage has vowed to make work pay as he's pledged to ax income tax on overtime. Well, if Reform UK are victorious at the next election, people who earn less than £75,000 and work over 40 hours a week will pay no additional income tax on those hours. Well, estimates are that the tax commitment could total up to5 billion pounds. The reform UK leader says his new policy aims to benefit people who put in the extra hours and see no real reward at the end of the month. But is this policy a reward for hard work or is it just a unaffordable gimmick? Well, going headto-head on this now are a former UK counselor for Felix Sto Clifllands in Suffukk, Michael Hadwin, and former Labour counselor, Simon Greavves. Good evening, gentlemen. Um, Simon, I'll start with you. Is this a gimmick or is it a good idea to help grow the economy?
It sounds like an interesting headline.
Um, I'd say it's utter nonsense to be honest. It's totally unaffordable [ __ ] packet stuff. Um, I think uh well, last time there was going to be 80 billion pounds of uh uh tax cuts I believe in the runup to the next previous election.
That all went out the window. Um, and God knows where the money's going to come from for this.
>> All right. I'll pass it straight over to you to you then. Um, of course, Michael.
Michael, what do you think of it? Good idea. Uh >> yeah, of course. I mean, this is the common sense stuff the country's been calling out for. You know, this country is so unserious at the moment. Shouldn't people who work hard see the benefit from that? You know, my mother's a nurse. If she works overtime, why is the government punishing her for wanting to do more work? Uh and you know, Simon talks about the fact that, oh, it's where's the money going to come from?
The problem is here when we look at where numbers are at the moment, the government is willing to spend hundreds of million pounds on on projects like carbon capture when you talk about spending money to actually reward British workers apparently then that's a step too far. I think it really shows where people's priorities are at the moment.
>> Yeah, Simon, the benefits bill is pretty massive, right? It's it's it's huge and we we give benefits to kids on with ADHD these days, acne, other things. C is there not an argument to be made that you should reward people in work and help and that way you'll drive the economy or drive growth in Britain? Is that not a better way to deal with things?
>> Well, I would certainly say that there needs to be uh changes on the benefits bill and that will be unpopular with some of my colleagues, but that's the my view on it all. But the I think that if we introduce this um let's all work 16 hours a week, shall we? Because actually we'll be quidd on overtime. There will be a totally skew the labor market. Um, what's the point of someone working 38 hours a week and then putting in the extra hours on top of that when actually you could do 16 hours of big quids in afterwards? Doesn't add up. I'm sorry.
>> Go on, Michael.
>> It's such a cynical view. I remember when my mother was pregnant with me, um, she was told by one of her one of the advisers that actually she should quit working for the NHS and go on benefits because she'd be better off. She didn't because that's not the right thing to do. The country I see is obviously very different uh than Zimon because the country I see are people wanting to work hard for their country, wanting to support their families. Um you know, Labour's position for years has been on economic growth. Uh if we have mass immigration, then that's going to fix the issues. Whereas actually what we're saying is maybe we should reward the workers who are already here. So no, I don't think we have an issue with British people wanting to go to work.
>> Simon, >> well, migration figures are coming down.
That's a uh being announced recently that's already happening net net zero before the end of the year. I'm sure of it. But look, this is I'm sorry, but this is [ __ ] packet stuff. Um I absolutely recognize people want to work hard, support the families, but actually this will pit one worker against another worker. It's better to keep things on an even footing than actually generating loopholes that people would explore, I'm afraid. I guess I guess my um I mean listen I any tax break I think I would take at this point in time if I'm being completely honest with you Simon I I I really feel like I need a tax break in Britain. I'm 35. I felt like I paid way too much tax in my life and and I think already can imagine what somebody who's 70 thinks. And I think that the reality is that many people in Britain are leaving the country. They're going to places like Dubai which are tax havens.
Some of them going to places like America. We're losing businesses. And actually, you know, I I think there's a younger generation coming up as well that are maybe a little bit more work shy. Not all of them to be fair to them.
A few of them are a little bit more work shy and maybe this will just help get it over the line, you know, and doing a couple more hours here for the NHS. That could be really helpful. We've got lots of doctors and nurses striking that could do with the extra shifts. Do you not see a benefit in maybe just trying to reduce the tax burden a little bit, Simon?
>> Well, I absolutely see the benefit in reducing the tax burden, but it has to be in a way that first of all is affordable. Secondly, does incentivize uh people to invest and work and uh get on with life. And uh if you look at the uh uh uh what the uh recent rich lists, the phenomenal entrepreneurs that there are in the country, all very young, all employing thousands of people, uh really pushing the economy forward. I would say that there's ways of incentivizing and building on the entrepreneurial spirit of the UK, but this is not the way.
>> All right, Michael. 5 billion quid, right? People will still say Britain's, you know, facing economic hardship. The country's bankrupt. Is it just a gimmick? Do you think you can really afford to do it?
>> Yeah, of course. I mean, it's only a gimmick if we keep going on with the establishment's plans they've been doing for years. If you look at what we spend on net zero projects, which are ridiculous amounts of money, if you look at what we spend on foreign aid, if you actually dig into what this country thinks is a priority and then look at what the British people think is priority, there's a lot of money there to be used. Uh I've recently just actually been elected as leader of Suffach County Council and already we're looking at the books that we've got and you know, there's so much efficiencies that can be found even in a county council, let alone the government, if we just change our priorities. And unfortunately, we're not here to play the politics of envy. We're not here to target entrepreneurs. You know, you can't say we need to incentivize them when you're chasing them out of the country. Instead, reform actually wants to incentivize people to work hard, start businesses, and support their families.
>> Yeah, Simon, some of the figures in that we were talking about their migration. A lot of those some of the concerning parts of those figures were 250,000 or so uh people leaving, British nationals leaving, a lot of them were under the age of 35. So it's the best and brightest, the future of Britain. Do you think there's there's not enough incentive to stay here anymore, which is again putting the extra tax burden on the rest of Britain because then we have to bring in more migrants, which is obviously a very unpopular thing to do.
Do you think things like, you know, tax incentives to keep young people working in Britain, might be a smart idea?
>> Um, I think that there's uh loads of reasons why it's sensible to invest in the UK and build up businesses in the UK. Um I think the trend that I've seen of people moving to uh tax havens I I in my view that's going to be quite shortlived uh because it's very unstable. Um and when people go abroad to these tax havens for a period of time actually they end up returning back to the UK eventually. And I think that as the economy grows as it is, uh, we will see more people moving back to the UK to progress the businesses and we'll see more businesses uh, uh, uh, building, uh, and growing in the UK, and that's best for everyone.
>> Well, Simon, I really hope you're right, mate. I really, really do. Michael, thank you for coming on. Simon, thank you for coming on, gentlemen, for a good debate there. We of course will, I mean, I hope and pray every day for a tax break. I really do. Really, really do.
Anyway, look, coming up, May 7th was undoubtedly a good day for the Green Party as they gained 441 council seats and took control of five councils. But what do they intend to do with all this new power? We'll be discussing that next.
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Well, Andy Burnham has revealed he plans to introduce a land value tax if he becomes prime minister. Well, Bernham has said that he believes land is currently undertaxed. Under tax is anything undertaxed in this country, pointing to large areas of unused land across Greater Manchester. Well, in 2024, land was valued at 7.1 trillion.
So, a levy of just 0.5% could raise around 35.5 billion a year for the Treasury. But is this a good idea? I've got my panel back in the room. Reform UK's 2028 London may candidate Leila Cunningham, editorial director at Gilo Forks, Adam Cherry, and political commentator Andy Telves. Andy, I'll start with you. Do you love it?
>> Yeah. Yeah. Surprise, surprise. I thought you might say that. A bit of extra tax here. the the example in Greater Manchester was lots of areas have just been, you know, left as waste dumps. Yeah. And, you know, if you're just letting your land turn into a waste dump, yeah, it should probably be taxed.
I think there is a big inequity in, you know, you've got big town houses in South Kensington that are paying less council tax than a onebedroom council flat in Mansfield and that's just not fair just because of the councils that run them. So, I think yeah, we do need to bring up equity across everyone everyone thinks council tax is broken.
Come on, this isn't a debate. council tax.
>> Isn't that due to council efficiency? If you pay more council tax in one council than the other, why do we all have to have equally badly run councils? I don't understand. Why can't one council who performs really well is really good at saving money and charges people less council tax? Why does that council have to be punished for efficiency?
>> Good question. Well, because I think, you know, if you're comparing South Kensington, Mansfield, I think Mansfield has a lot more issues with it. You know, South Kensington especially is now mostly empty because of the uh taxes that and uh God, I've lost my words.
Boycott that have been put on empty Russian properties. Uh they've got lots less social care responsibilities, lots less pension responsibilities, lots lots less infrastructure responsibilities because you got the GLA responsibilities. They have a huge public sector. The Kensington Council employs as many people as any other council.
>> That's not true. Not any other council.
Not any other council. Do you?
>> No. But do you >> Well, you're the one that said it, comrade. Comrade, you're the one that said it. I mean, my god. Does anyone got the figures?
>> You said this.
>> I don't have what what do you think about this idea? What do you like this idea in general? This is >> not I mean there are many many issues with this one being implementation, right? Um so this is going to be based on the estimated value of the land which doesn't include the the property if there's property or buildings on it. You know, if there's planning permission that distort the um the value of the of the taxation as well. You'd have lots and lots of challenges. is it would be in your interest uh if you're subject to this tax to challenge the valuation at every opportunity to try and knock off a little bit of your uh your tax bill. You know, the tax burden which is already massive. I think on our land taxes, we already tax land at the highest rate in um the OEDC. You know, Dan Needle is saying this and he's hardly a you know, some sort of right-wing libertarian is making this point. So if they're going to do this, are they is he going to do it um as a substitution for what stamp duty or you know other various other you know other council tax measures and so on? I suspect not because he wants to add it to the existing tax. Well this is this is the question right? Is this the answer to fix because we do I think we can all agree council tax is broken in many respects right? Is this the answer?
>> No I mean >> well more tax the thing is whenever there's a problem Labour's like let's tax more. I mean it's and and he talks about people young people owning. It's not it's not that we have too many people owning stuff or land. It's that we have too little young people who have the possibility to own anything. And perhaps the reason why it's derelict is that it's so difficult to get planning permission. It is so difficult with regulation and the time it takes.
Perhaps they can't get planning permission. So how about making it easier for people to build property and stop punishing developers and increase supply and make more young people own homes as opposed to punishing wealth.
Once you punish wealth, people are going to stop creating it.
>> Punishing wealth.
>> I think there should be some regulation on the type of houses that are built.
I'm a Yimi by all accounts. I think that the planning process should be made easier. I don't think mega developers should be allowed to build three, four, fivebedroom homes when what we need in this country is starter homes because as a young person, you know, I can't afford a four, fivebedroom house. I can probably afford one or two. I think there have to be regularly people have a four or five bedroom. I've actually spoken to young people who don't want to buy a one bed because they recognize that once they want to start a family, it's a waste of money. Agree. And and they want four bedrooms. I have to someone who is obviously thinking about buying a home at some point in the near future. I wouldn't buy one bedroom for that exact reason. What's the point? Can I have ch children there? No. Then do I have to sell it? And also what what we're finding in places like London is that the val people can't sell those one bedrooms. They've been so overly priced that now they they're having to lose so much money.
>> My interest. I have a one bed.
>> There we go. I have a mortgage. mortgage on a one day.
>> I am getting slightly away from Andy Burden here.
>> Yes, I know my own property.
>> I uh I worry that if I get this thing valued, it'll depreciated in the last four years, which a lot of them have, which is I was told I was sold. This was the one thing that was not supposed to happen.
>> But why is that? And this goes back to what Leila is saying. It goes back to the fact that actually people want to have children. Could you have kids in your one bedroom?
>> Could try to have kids whe they like or not. have a child in my bedroom. It's not good for the marriage.
>> Right. Right. So, so I think the point the point I mean just get bring this back to to sort of land value and things like that. The point is is that actually you know you you were saying okay we we don't want more three fourbedroom houses but if we built more of them then then surely the price of those three fourb house would fall.
>> Yeah. And probably building houses there's probably building houses. I think it was 500,000 they promised to build over this parliament.
>> Is the answer to to council tax adding more taxes for people to >> I think council tax just needs to be reformed. council tax is felt very generally across the country as unfair.
Like a townhouse in South Kensington pays less council tax.
>> Well, I I think I think it's completely fair.
>> I I think it's completely fair. You know, look at a four a fourfloor house is paying less council tax than a one bed apartment. I just don't think that's right.
>> By the way, the reason he's only introduced this in the first place is because he's completely uh he's in a complete straight jacket as a result of Labour's existing manifesto.
>> Right. You have to adopt it. So, so he's right, he's already said he will not um tear up the promise not to raise income tax, VAT or national insurance, which means he's got a very very very small number of levers he can pull. I mean, look at what Ra's had to do. So, he's now facing the same problem. Who knows, maybe he'll U-turn on this. He seems to be turning absolutely everything else.
We might need to worry about it.
>> He's enjoying the >> We've had successive governments that just believe in redistribution as opposed to creative growth.
>> They're just like, you know what, we've got a fixed pie and uh if you take from that pie, then you've taken from the other person. How about we all keep a share in in an ever expanding pie? How about that? How about we have a pie that expands and and and we can all get a share of it as opposed as opposed to just one pie where if the guy in the townhouse in Kensington is successful, then he's taken from someone else.
>> Well, the issue is the guy in the townhouse in Kensington has got all the pies. He's got many pies and then there's, you know, I'm a bit lost on where this pie >> started out with no card for that pie. Do we reward him or do we punish him?
>> Listen, I'm all for everyone having a bit more pie. I don't want to punish the one person who's bought their pie fairly. That's all it is, right? If he's bought his pie.
>> Well, they're stealing pies in Clappam, aren't they? It's all excellent.
>> Anyway, listen. We'll leave it there cuz we got to go to a break anyway before we get absolutely mad with pie here. I actually kind of fancy a pie now actually coming up. Right, we've got to go. This is serious actually. We got a bit of a change of Tony because there's a recent spate of sexual violence against women and girls in the country and I think we need to have a very honest conversation about the men who are committing them who are from different cultures and whether or not they should be allowed into our country.
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What do you remember about serving here in the Netherlands? Because the operation didn't quite go to plan, did it?
>> No, it didn't quite go to plan. And uh we were more or less ambushed, I suppose, you call it, because as I say, we were were told that we were going to just walk into and liberate them and take it. But unfortunately, that wasn't the case. I don't know where the cocka happened but uh when we arrived there they there were also the German panzer division which is a tank division and there the trouble started and it was rather lastly from there on we were halted where we should because we land troops and uh the parachute we told the parachutes had landed and they unfortunately cpped it very badly.
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Well, May the 7th local elections represented a seismic breakthrough for the New Green Party. I call them the New Greens because they are like a different party now, aren't they? Um 441 seats were won and five councils fell under Green Party control and a number of Londonbased councils have reportedly been laying out their plans to lobby the government on areas from immigration to counter extremism. Well, in Hackne, Green councilors have reportedly declared their intention to refuse to share data of migrant victims of domestic abuse with immigration immigration enforcement agencies. Well, axing prevent could firmly be on the agenda, too. Labor and the Conservatives support the purpose of the program.
Although they recognize shortcomings where uh as opposing parties such as Lib Dems and Reform have heavily criticized the program, arguing that it alienates groups whilst reform says it needs a complete overhaul. But as the popularity of the Greens grows, is this a look into their plans for the entire country? My panel still with me here. Um Ila, I'll start with you. Should we act prevent?
Have they got are they right about this?
the Greens because I think we have seen time and time again that the program sort of sucks to put it nicely.
>> I think they want to access it for different reasons than you and I want to.
>> I think you're absolutely right. They probably think it's unfair and it targets radical Islamists in a wrong way and we should protect them for their for their beliefs.
>> Um I think Prevent has failed and I spoke to someone from Prevent >> kind of who came to speak to me without anyone knowing.
>> Yeah. And he says that people are so scared of referring anyone for Islamist behavior that they'll refer them for like obsession with violence.
>> Right.
>> Right. They're so scared to say Islamism. And and I think there should be a dedicated task force that doesn't mix far right doesn't mix anything else >> specifically dedicated to eradicating Islamism in our country.
>> Interesting. What do you think of that?
>> Broadly agree. Yeah. Uh I mean look, Green Party, this is typical sort of six form politics from them, isn't it? as you say, they want to scrap it for entire different reasons, which is just pretend that this isn't a problem. It clearly is. We're going to talk about it in quite a lot of detail later on in the >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
>> Well, there's all there's obviously other policies we're talking about here, immigration and and data sharing and things like that. You know, there's it's a whole raft of things we're talking about. Well, do do you think this would be like a plan for the Greens if they got into government? Is that what we're looking at here?
>> No. Uh not least because the Greens are is significantly less organized than reform or Labor. You know, Labor is a pretty democratic party. Greens, but the Greens the Greens are far more democratic than the Labour Party in the terms of the policym process. Like they have an annual conference where the policy is not set by Zack Palansky as the leader or Minan Ali as the deputy leader. It is quite literally set by the members. So there is really no way of predicting because there's been such a membership influx where the Greens membership will lie on policy issues because Zoe Garber as the mayor of Hackne could do what she wants with Hackne Council. There's no whip on the Green group that run Hackne Council because they don't believe in the whipping system. So really it is sort of down to her powers of persuasion. So I think it it's a bit reductive to go the Green Party when it's such a >> that's actually scary because I think their me I think their membership influx is Islamists personally. Um they all of them every single one >> I don't know but they were marching the other day against the far right against myself and uh they had people marching with the signs of praising the IRGC and and that was fine for them.
>> A lot of them will be ex Labour members as well you know which be a combination.
Well, I was going to say, look, look, I was going to say I think your point about how they're more democratic and how Palansky doesn't really control the leaves of the of the party in that way.
Fine. I wonder if they'll crack down on that as things get more serious in a couple of I read recently that they wanted to water down some of their more exotic fancy far-left policies to make them, you know.
>> No, interesting.
>> What legalizing crack?
>> I can't that's a good exotic policy. I can't remember exactly what >> you call it exotic. I call it bloody day.
>> But you see, this is the thing. I do think there's a I think this is where they're going to get into a little bit of trouble when we see these councils launch these different different initiatives on immigration and other things because of course we don't really know what the national policies are versus the local ones and whether there's going to be a massive disconnect did see the new green MP uh Gonen member the other day raising drinking in the House of Commons and I just thought well that's kind of ironic given that you want to legalize crack cocaine >> I think in fairness to Hannah Spencer and I disagree with her on the value of drinking as you know various comrades can attest I enjoy drink in and around parliament uh if crack cocaine was to be legal as alcohol is legal. I think she would expect some standards within the workplace. So she would not only not want alcohol in the workplace but also crack.
>> Yeah, I I think you know as she has an issue with inebriated people in the workplace, alcohol is legal. So not to do the Greens PR for them, but I think that would be what she would say if she was here.
>> It's a fair point. All right. What do you think of that, Laya?
>> Well, are we actually discussing crack cocaine in the >> No, no, no. I know I'm just I'm just >> I'm expected to give an independent comment on it.
>> I just I I >> That's 2026 for you, Lea. This is Britain to politics. This is Britain 2026. It really is. Yeah. I mean, listen, I I think I think this is interesting because I think politics in Britain is is is at a it is at a seismic moment, isn't it? Everything is changing as we see time and time again now. And I think this will be very fascinating for established parties to see how they move with the wind for people like the Green Party because maybe they'll have to go a bit further left. We might see um future uh Labor governments have to go further left. We might see uh more We've seen the Tories definitely go more rightwing, haven't we, as a result of everything that's happened the last few years reform.
>> But Alex, you say further left, right?
So are the Greens are the ultimate why is left dangerous to the country? Why is it a national security? Why does it mean banning prevent? Why does it mean, you know, >> well, they probably they probably argue that that that that our opinions are dangerous as well, right? That's that's the reality and that's where we are because we're so polarized now, aren't we? Adam, is there is there an answer?
>> What to to what to the Green Party?
>> No, just I think just because what I think this stuff shows these policies, these policy differences and how polarizing they are, is that Britain itself is polarized.
>> Yeah. Is there an answer? I don't know.
Maybe govern more effectively and and um and we'll see. You know, >> I think, by the way, they need to change their name because I think they're not green.
>> What would you change it to?
>> Uh danger >> danger party. Danger.
>> Danger Party.
>> All right. Well, zing. All right. I thought they would say that the happy green party that's what they like.
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Yes, the Sunday Express is leading with the news this evening that Nigel Farage has claimed he wants to scrap income tax on overtime. Is that a vote winner for you or is it a gimmick? We'll find out later on. And we'll of course be bringing you the rest of Sunday's front pages with the Mail on Sunday leading with Nigel Farage saying he was hacked, his phone was hacked by Moscow. And on my panel this evening, reform UK case 2028 London may mar candidate Leila Cunningham, editorial director at Gilo Forks, Adam Cherry, and political commentator Andy 12s. And Clappam in South London has erupted again as young people stormed the area. Honestly, it's like a riot there. It's led to a surge of police. Take a look at this.
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I do not wear an Afghan problem. Two 17-year-old Afghan asylum seekers were convicted of raping a 15year-old girl in Warikshshire May last year in Folk, Scotland. Rapula Ahmedzi was convicted of raping a 17-year-old in Neton last year. Ahmed Malakil, an Afghan illegal small boat migrant, abducted a 12-year-old girl from a playground from the swings on the playground, by the way, raped her and filmed it. In the last few weeks, an Afghan migrant has admitted to stabbing two people in West London. Safi Doward, 23, who pleaded guilty to grievous bodily harm with intent and actual bodily harm after a frenzied attack that left one man dead. And just weeks ago, there was this Yeah, that is a knife wielding Afghan asylum seeker who went on a destructive riot through a Morrison supermarket, stabbing cans, smashing wine bottles in what a judge called something in the way of a rampage. Well, he got 18 months.
And there's more harrowing crimes committed by Afghans. People we've taken into our country, by the way, given homes, schooling, security. It's not isolated. Data shows Afghan nationals offend at disproportionately high rates, particularly for sexual offenses.
Estimates put them somewhere between 14 and 22 times more likely to be convicted than British nationals. And Britain's taken tens of thousands of Afghans since 2021 through the resettlement schemes, of course, and the small boat crisis.
Many were granted protection when the Taliban took over, but the pattern in Britain is now unmistakable. evidence of grooming gangs, stabbings, violence against women and girls. Why are we still allowing these often very violent and culturally malign men into our country? The data tells you everything you need to know, yet we carry on with it. Something's not right. And it's time we face reality. We're gonna have to deport every Afghan man who entered illegally into our country or who's failed their asylum claim. No more appeals, no more human rights lawyers tying our hands together. And we should blacklist further Afghan arrivals, suspend all the schemes, and stop the boats and say very clearly, Britain is closed to Afghans. End of story. We cannot carry on like this. Nobody is solving this problem. They really aren't. Our first duty is to our own people. Governments need to remember that, especially to vulnerable people like our women and children who are paying the price for this failed ongoing experiment. Successive governments, by the way, not just the current one.
Successive governments have now got blood on their hands for prioritizing the increase of foreign nationals from Afghanistan into Britain via the multiple crises that we're now facing.
for caring more about international law than they do people who pay their wages to be in parliament. The answer is quite simple. We need to detain these men. We need to tag them. Can you believe we don't do that? And then we need to deport them. And while we're at it, close the borders to Afghanistan until we can figure out a way, if ever, if we can safely have those people in our country. And uh separately here, Conservative MP Nick Timothy has posted on X this evening. Afghans are more than 20 times more likely to commit sex crimes than Brits. Crimes that are one were once rare horrors are now regular stories. Ministers deny it, but the whole country can see what's going on.
My message to David Lammy, stop the cover up, sort it out. Oh, I've got my panel to talk about this here. Reform UK's 2028 London mayoral candidate Ila Cunningham, editorial director Guido Forks, Adam Cherry, and political commentator Andy 12s. Um Adam, I'll start with you.
>> It look I think the evidence is becoming overwhelming and the small boats crisis really is a driving force behind this.
We don't when people come into our country, we don't know if they've been tagged. We so we don't tag them. We're not even allowed to take their phones off them anymore. And we heard we heard from Belgium police that they're not even willing to stop them. This was another bit of news other day. They saying they're dangerous, armed and and military trained men. That was from the Belgian police.
>> We know this. Yeah, we know this. And you would think that perhaps one of the lessons we would learn from the grooming the rape gangs scandal is that being squeamish about confronting the the facts before you, which is that certain groups, certain demographics are disproportionately far more likely to commit crimes like this. You know, we shouldn't avoid that. we should, you know, this sort of PC attitude, whatever you want to call it, is getting in the way of protecting people.
>> And we're seeing it again here and >> because we saw it with with the Pakistani grooming and we didn't we didn't say what it was and it carried on and on and on.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um people are unwilling to have uh difficult conversations because it might be uncomfortable for them. No, no, no.
We're more serious about this.
>> That's that's my view. I I think we should learn the lessons of the past and take this more seriously.
>> Do you think I'm being too harsh, Ila?
>> No. I think I think I think everyone in the country apart from politicians keep asking themselves why does this keep on happening?
>> Yeah.
>> Why does it keep on happening and why do we keep importing the risk when we when we definitely can't manage the risk like you say the people coming on boats we have no idea who they are? I mean they could be sexual offenders at home or serial rapists and we've got no effective filtering system and yet we allow them to roam to roam free. And you're right, like the public's just told to absorb the consequences, deal with it, and shut up. And they are the most horrific. I I don't remember growing up hearing about all these migrant rapes of 12 year olds.
>> But that's not the Britain I grew up in.
And those crimes lay at the door of the government.
>> Yeah. What do you think, Andy?
>> I think they light the door certainly of two people, Robert Generick and Swellow Braman. They stopped the Home Office when this great scandal was going on. I think if >> didn't swell Braman resigned because she couldn't do anything about it.
>> No, I believe swell Braman well which time she was sacked for violation of the ministerial code and then was sacked again.
I mean like which time she didn't resign.
Yeah, she was sacked >> like she wasn't sacked because she didn't resign out of some great principle and Robert Genrich certainly didn't like >> well he says he does just just for the he says he did resign out >> well because it's politically convenient for him to do it now. Well, you can make that argument if you want.
>> You know, blood on the hands. I thought Alex is what color Robert and Braman.
>> I said everybody that blood on their hands.
>> No, I I said everyone who's been in government, successive governments who've allowed this to continue. I I will give blood on Braman and Robert Generick have at least said what happened while I was in government was wrong and it should never have happened.
I think there's some credit I give credit to any politician who is willing to point out that they were wrong. I've challenged I've challenged conservative ministers on my show before and said do you regret for example to James coffee not building enough houses and they excuse it and I hate it when politicians do that I think there's something to say I got something wrong we didn't do what we needed to do but but at least it's an an admission of failure right what you get constantly with politicians these days is no we didn't do anything wrong it was the circumstances of the time the same with the economy that's what winds me up and of course someone could admit admits they were wrong. We're all human.
Doesn't see the issues they've caused.
Then they apologize for it. I can forgive that. What I can't forgive is politicians who pretend there's no problem with >> blood on their hands. Alex, do you think, you know, two people with blood on their hands should be holding such position? Let me ask, you know, potentially the next >> Do you think that the ministers have blood on their hands?
>> Governments have blood on their hands for allowing illegal migrants to come into the country and and kill and rape people in many circumstances.
>> I think you're conflating two things here. I think illegal migration and the Afghan resettlement scheme. You know, you conflate the two in there. I think the Afghan resettlement scheme is completely fair sold to us as a moral obligation, right?
We had >> Yeah, it is. We bombed their country. We asked for their support and then when we completely abandoned their country and let the Taliban run it again, we just went, "Yeah, not our issue, guys." Yeah, we do have I don't think we have Hang on. Can I just make this point just very briefly? The the the problem with the resettlement scheme is it's not that we just took on board the the the man that might have translated for us here or there. We took on tens of thousands.
>> You didn't want him coming here anyway.
Hang on one second. It wasn't Well, actually, I wouldn't mind those people coming because they've helped us and they've shown loyalty to our country.
What we brought? No, not anymore. They can't. What we What we have done is that we brought their wives, their children, we brought their cousins in some cases out of hand.
That's tough. Don't help the British army next time.
>> Some of them failed vetting, by the way.
It's not like it was a perfect filtering system. I'm sorry. In fact, you know, it wasn't properly enforced. They weren't properly vetted. Some were blacklisted and still allowed in.
>> 38,000 people on the Afghan resettlement system. I owe them a duty of care, but we owe a duty of care to the women and children of this country first and foremost.
>> So, not only do Robert Generick and Sella Brain have blood on their hands, but they're also incompetent. They couldn't even run a proper resettlement scheme. Is that what you're telling me?
>> Let me ask you a You know what Suela and Generic did is that they joined the only party that's saying, "How can we stop it?"
>> Because they were running because they were leading the polls.
>> Well, they No, cuz they recognize that it's your opinion.
>> I didn't think they were. I mean, I mean, >> we just Let's move the debate along.
Right? Because because look, we we've got the tens of th tens of thousands of Afghans and I'm not saying every single Afghan, by the way, just to be clear, is committing crimes in Britain. I said there's disproportionately high and the data shows it, right? It's it's inevitable. I've got the example just looking at online at the example of the man who who threatened Nigel Far with the AK-47 tattooed on his face, you know. Right. These are the sorts of people we they're coming they're landing in Dover in on our shores. Someone's looked at that bloke and gone just put him in a hotel. Yeah. Don't tag him.
Don't take his phone off him. You You don't think this bloke might be violent?
No. This is the thought process of our authorities. And when I say they got blood on their hands, it's because you see people like that walk through our door and we do nothing to stop them from being a threat to British citizens. That makes me very angry when I hear when I hear little girls are being raped, when people are being murdered.
>> Well, so when girls Yeah. So when girls are being raped and basically we have rapists who are abusing a system that's built on compassion and we are told to accept it because we're a compassionate race and if we're compassionate country and if we don't then we're divisive or racist or whatever insults get thrown at me and reform.
Where's the compassion for the women and girls here? Where's the compassion for these girls that are raped? You know these men come with no identity. We really have no idea who they were. I would never let a man that I don't know who I was anywhere near my children, anywhere near my mother, my my mother or my sister that just the fact that they threw their passports away and they're gaming a system should be cause for concern enough and any decent government would recognize that they are an unknown risk. They are an unknown risk. We know nothing about them and that unknown risk should be taken into consideration when you place them.
>> The the worst they just place them in the middle of a town and village, not detain them. We have no idea who these men are. It's mad. Even when they've committed these crimes, we still can't deport them. I know, right? We can't.
It's like bringing someone into your house. They commit a horrible crime in your house. You put them in and lock them in a room and after 10 years they can come out of that room and live in your house again. That is some Andy, you must admit there's something bankrupt bankrupt about that.
>> Yeah. Yeah. I think the judicial system is broken. It's been at capacity for years and years.
>> Is the broken?
>> I don't think the ECR you just said it's broken. The things that stop these people from being deported is the ECR.
Well, that's not broken or it is broken.
>> It's more the appeals process. There's a massive backlog in the appeals process.
That's the real thing. But >> you can't deport someone back to a country that's not safe. So, it's not about appeals. An Afghan migrant who commits this crime won't ever get sent back to Afghanistan.
>> Well, that's because Afghanistan won't cooperate because if we leave the ECR suddenly, even if we just do it like that, don't think about any of the other considerations about leaving the ECR, Afghanistan still won't cooperate.
>> So, you need a third country, I suppose, like Rwanda.
>> Well, >> yeah, get the Rwanda scheme going again.
I mean I think the rand scheme was a massive cost and it had capacity for what 200 as a principle as a principle in theory.
Yeah.
>> These illegal migrants or these rapists some of them are endlessly protected by a system that protects them and let's face it endangers women and girls.
That's just a matter of fact. We have a system that protects illegal migrants over women and girls because we've seen these horrific crimes are happening as a direct result of these men being allowed in and being allowed to be placed in.
>> Then why did you let Robert Jenner have them into the party?
>> But this is not about reform.
>> Why would you just take them as this is not about reform?
>> She's the 2028 reform UK candidate for the London Mayor.
>> UK. This is about the situation. No, >> you said you said that you said every single minister who's done this has blood on their hands. Andy >> they've got blood on their hands. I'm not we've already talked about Robert Jenick and SW Bravo. Would you agree they had blood on their hands? Did you >> passionate because it's an easy to >> because they're the facil they're the facilitators of it from top is you said every single minister who was facilitating had blood on their hands blood on their hands than that. I thought you were not the one talking about blood. No, he's the one that said they got blood on their hands. I do think all governments that have done this have got blood on their hands. I do and I do believe that because women and children dying as a result of those actions and I I think I'm very very right to say that. I'm not blaming any particular individual. Just to be clear, I don't want there any lawsuits thrown at people here. I'm not blaming any particular person in government. I'm blaming governments as a whole because it is a complete failure of the system.
The system is broken. We did not review these things before we allowed men to come here on boats. The question I'm putting to you, Andy, is what would you do about it? If we if I we've got an Afghan migrant, let's just assume some one of them has killed somebody in this country, which we've seen examples of, they then are put in prison and they come back out of prison again, left to roam free in Britain. What would you do?
How would you solve that problem?
>> Detain them. Keep them in prison in prison forever.
>> Well, I mean, if you inhumane, >> I think, you know, you've already um got the appeals backlog being taken down.
They've ordered for more prisons to be built. You know, it's a long-term issue.
Prisons don't just spring up. I think yeah, just detain them >> forever.
>> For a while? Yeah. Until until the appeals backlog until the appeals backlog is taken out, they get them done for rape. I'd hope you >> What would you do if Afghanistan aren't going to allow deportations to their country? Would you leave them here?
>> Leave them in Britain? I I haven't.
>> Do you deport them to Rwanda?
>> I mean, we we're getting quite deep into the hypothetical.
>> No, it's not hypothetical. We need to have these on. But this this is the thing. We need to know who's got the >> I frankly don't want to pay for them in prison for the rest of their lives. I want them out of my country.
>> What would you like? What would you >> I want them detained and deported to a third world or a third country or sent back to the Taliban. I don't care if they're coming here to rape my the girls of this country. Why not?
>> That's not how that works.
>> Why not agree with the Taliban? Huh?
>> You going to have an agreement with the Taliban? What? I mean, >> you can't just send them to Afghanistan.
>> Supporting the Taliban.
>> Why can't we just drop them off on the tarmac? Drop them off on the tarmac. I I just feel I feel like we we are so caught up >> because I imagine the Taliban would probably blow up the plane.
>> Okay. Well, sorry. So, we just creating the Taliban. How do we know that? How many of men arriving on boats are not part of the Muslim Brotherhood or the Taliban?
>> What?
>> How do we know they are not part of the Taliban? Well, how do we know the men arriving on boats are not part of the Taliban?
>> Question. I mean, how how do we know they're not members of the BMP? How do we know they're not members of Brit?
>> We don't we don't know. We don't know anything about >> Definitely. They're not a member of the BMP because they're not British.
>> That's a good point.
>> It'd be rare to have an Afghan from the BMP.
>> Oh, yeah. I suppose >> I guess I guess the question you just don't know.
>> We don't know. I'll put this in here. We don't know.
>> We only dang.
>> Yeah. Because we don't know. What do we do with >> We don't have a filtering system. They should not be allowed in and they should not be allowed to roam free once they are in.
>> Right. What do you do? What would you What would What do we do about this, Adam?
>> I think Well, I said I think we need an agreement with a third country. Now, we mentioned the Rwanda scheme and the vast expense and and so on. You know, leaving the ECR is is part of the solution. Not entirely. doesn't solve everything, but it might disentangle us a bit from the human rights law that gums up the system so much.
>> Um, by the way, some within government currently, the current administration in the Home Office agree with me. They don't say so publicly, but they say after they've had a few shirts. So, um, that's what that's that's how I would at least start. But, but what we're realizing here is this ain't simple, is it? No.
>> Why don't we detain them on arrival?
entering these countries illegally according to the borders act but only 1% of illegal entrance are prosecuted because once you say the the magic word of asylum that crime is neutralized and you become an asylum seeker how about treating illegal entry as an actual crime >> yeah I guess that could be a start when you see countries like Germany who have already started deportations to Afghanistan you wonder how on earth is our country behind on this issue how on earth have they not tried to make these arrangements happen if they're deporting people back to Syria in some cases it it blows my mind that whilst all these crimes No, exactly right. All it blows my mind that after all of this all these constant stories and and horrific horrific crimes against British people who are very welcoming country by the way we are we are tolerant a tolerant tolerant country. We welcome people from other other parts of the world but not when this is happening not at this scale and I think all people want is an answer. I think that's all they want.
That's why >> can you people sorry just to interrupt but people are like oh you can't send them back to the Taliban. You want to go tell to the the mother of that 12-year-old? Sorry. You know what? We can't send him back to the Taliban. It's not fair on him.
>> We don't or the 12-y old.
>> Well, no, we can't send him back to the Taliban because we can't just send a plane to Afghanistan.
>> All right, we got to leave it there.
Take >> them and they'll take them.
>> All right, we got to leave it there. Of course, very difficult debate. It's very, very difficult debate, isn't it?
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>> Welcome back everybody. Well, the Met police ramped up their presence in Clappam in London last night after reports of recent disorder following the last day of the school term. Well, this follows scenes from March and April where across two nights mobs of teenagers rampaged through Clappam Street instigating many conversations about youth violence and antisocial behavior. From fatherless families to rising youth unemployment, many factors are given for this rising lawlessness.
And with me now to discuss this is former detective, chief inspector Mike Neville. Mike, thanks for coming on the show tonight. Really appreciate it. Um, I've seen clips of this. Uh, we'll play some for you in a second as well of what's going on in Clappam. But it's obviously reminiscent of what happened just a month or so ago, was it? Similar things happening. What What's causing this massive rise in youth violence and youth mobs across the country?
Well, I think there's several factors here that the these youngsters here, mainly young black kids, uh they they don't fear the police at all. You know, any attempt to stop and search and there's accusations of racism made against the police. So, police officers are f frightened to act proactively, uh then the the kids themselves know there's no consequences. You know, even if they're caught uh with a knife or doing all sort some crime, it's very unlikely they'll be sent to prison.
They've seen David Lammy saying that under 18 shouldn't be sent to jail. Uh so they feel that they can just do these things without any consequences.
And the net result is you can see before you on the screen.
>> Yeah, it's um it's terrifying for pe for for local residents and people who are just trying to get to and from the area.
Clappam is a what used to be a very lovely part of London. It's got a lovely green uh nice open spaces. People just trying to enjoy their dayto-day now have scenes of this, you know, ambulances, violence, fighting, mobs of teenagers completely out of control. Is it social media? Is it fathers fatherlessness?
What What is it?
>> There's a whole combination of factors.
I was a young police constable in Clappam in 1989 and then I was a detective inspector there. The police in them would have been far more robust.
These youngsters would have known that there would have been consequences. They would have been arrested. I think today there was nine arrests. when I was a an officer there, there would have probably been a 30 or 40 arrest made. Uh the officers, you know, we had our own rugby team at the time. So, you can imagine what they were like. But, as I say, the key thing is there is no consequences to being involved in crime. They see all their friends who commit all these things. Uh they're not they're very likely unlikely to be charged or caught.
Never mean mind being sent to jail.
We've had sort of 60 years haven't we of a sort of mass social experiment where criminals are treated as the victims and it has failed miserably and the people who pay for it of course as you say are the you know the families of people who are wandering around clapping who simply want to get on with their life want to go to the shops want to spend some time on the common and they have to put up with this wicked and brutal behavior and no doubt social media helps you know the criminals by you know giving them a focus but it's not really that it is the lack of consequence I think which is the main factor >> Mike a lot of this is being organized through social media right this is where a lot of these kids are organizing like well they I don't know what they called it it's like clapp or something they said something like that they all go and gather here at certain time certain place do whatever you like and you know it just takes one person to post something like that I mean you'll probably remember over a decade ago there were kids who post a Facebook event and then all of a sudden uh hundreds of well well thousands of people at least showed up tens of thousands in some cases is the police just not are they just behind so far behind on on getting on top of this stuff before it, you know, should it be made a legal an illegal offense to be doing things like this, for example?
>> Well, it's it's already an offense. We don't need any more laws. You know, politicians always say we need more laws, but it's already an offense to incite violence. What we need is robust policing and we need courts that lock people away. And because I having dealt with I used to talk to criminals.
criminals used to give me information and you get you get to know their life and what they fe fear and what they fear is they fear going to jail. They don't fear any of these community punishments.
They know they're a joke. Uh I looked into tagging for example. The government would tell us oh no no we're tagging people. Only 25% of breaches of the tag result in anything happening. So and that's not being locked up. That's somebody maybe coming around and saying don't do it again. So they well know that all these things could happen. But you've got all these leftwingers who give you excuses. I remember when the riots happened in 2011. Uh oh, it's cuz they removed the educational maintenance allowance. I had the footage of High Street being raided. There was one shop that wasn't raided, >> Water Stones Bookshop. And that summed it up. So, it's nothing to do with education at all. You just get people telling you nonsense. They'll come on here and they'll tell you all these reasons why we shouldn't lock them up.
That's what criminals understand.
>> Mike, youth unemployment, that's rising.
We're we're becoming worse than the EU for the first time in well well decades.
Um is that part to play in all of this?
Kids not going to work, not being able to get jobs. I >> I just don't believe that I was a soldier me at 16. I came from a council house. You know, there there's the army's under recruited now. If you need a job, you'll find a job. I simply don't believe these are the factors. It's getting back to the educational maintenance loans. The reason they do these things is because society allows it to happen. It's uh that the police are fighting with one arm behind their back that the officers are frightened to death of being accused of racism because they'll be suspended and might lose their job. So, best turn, you know, look the other way. Let it get on with it.
You know, only deal with things when you have to deal with it. And then we have the courts who have been told not to send people to prison. They know that there's no prison places. These are the factors that really count. We've had loads of waffle for for decades and the solutions are quite simple in these things.
>> Yeah, indeed they are. Mike Neville, thank you so much for joining me this evening. That's former detective chief inspector Mike Neville there. Appreciate your time, Mike, on that story. Look, next we'll go through the front pages.
Uh quite a lot of Nigel Farage on them actually, particularly on his announcement that he wants to scrap uh paid uh tax on uh tax on paid overtime indeed, which has made the waves clearly leading on multiple front pages. We'll bring that to you next.
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Hello there. Good evening. This is your latest GB news weather update provided by the Met Office. Hope you've had a lovely start to this bank holiday weekend. Many of us will continue to see a fine one as we head into Sunday and overnight as well. It'll be relatively fine and clear, particularly for areas of England and Wales. We might see some mist and fog patches forming, maybe even a little sea fog still lingering around the far southwest, but it should really readily clear first thing on Sunday morning. Temperatures in rural areas may just dip down into single figures. So, a little fresh and chilly for some of us, but most of our urban cities and towns will hold up in double digits as we kick off Sunday morning. Throughout tonight and into tomorrow though, we do still have this cloud lingray across the far northwest. And this will continue to bring outbreaks of rain, particularly for the Highlands, also around the outer heed and eventually over towards Ornne.
But over eastern and southern areas of Scotland, managing to see some sunshine break through as well as eastern counties of Northern Ireland. The bulk of the sunshine though really reserved once again for parts of England and Wales. Almost waterall blue skies for some of us though a little bit of fair weather cloud bubbling up in places with all that sunshine around. Remember that UV levels are going to be high. Some very strong sunshine out there. So the potential for sunburning quite quickly.
But pollen levels are also increasing.
We're starting to see the grass pollen emerging. So hay fever sufferers be aware as well. Top temperatures into Sunday likely to be around 31 degrees Celsius in the southeast, but quite widely seeing into the low to mid20s across the board. This area of high pressure that we've got around at the moment is sticking with us into Bank Holiday Monday. We do still have that front across the far northwest, but with the high pressure building in, it should hopefully break that front up as we head into the second half of Monday. So, it will take some time, but eventually the rain will begin to ease here. But really, for many of us, it's a fine and pleasant bank holiday Monday to be getting outside. Though increasingly warm, potentially our hottest ever bank holiday on record with temperatures only just slowly decreasing as we head into next week. Bye-bye.
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All right, I've got your front pages here. Sunday's front pages. Uh should we start with the telegraph? Uh Farage ask scrap tax on paid overtime. There you go. Uh Express will act tax on overtime.
The same headline there. Same sticking with Nigel Farage here on the Daily Mail. Um he says my phone was hacked by Moscow. Now this is interesting because he's basically should be seeing that 5 million pound gift um being released to the public as a phone hack. Right.
Interesting. And the mirror Farage is havenous on. We'll talk about that later. And gbnews.com is leading me with this. Uh European Union rejects Ki Starama's Brexit reset demanded major setback. It's quite embarrassing really, isn't it? It's quite embarrassing for Kstarma. Uh channel migrants hospitalized after boat caps size and major rescue um in the channel and many hundreds of migrants to cross channel in just days. Former chief uh of the borders of course there. Um all right, let's get the thoughts of my panel.
We'll stick with the Sunday Telegraph here. Well, I've got you here. U scrapping tax on paid overtime.
>> Great. We reward hard work. You know, for too long, like workers have been seeing as a cash cow, and this is to encourage people, you know, you work hard, you put in the extra hours, we're here for you.
>> Yeah. Good.
>> You want growth. You want to reward Can we afford it?
>> You want to reward work?
>> My question is, can people afford not to have it?
>> Okay, Andy.
>> People are struggling, working really hard and and and getting less and can't afford to live. So, this is, you know, they they hard work, I think, do you not think, Andy? Should be rewarded.
>> I think it's it sounds like a great policy. It's a very pro worker policy. I think it is good. You know, it's 5 billion. What are you going to cut that's worth 5 billion?
>> We could cut foreign green aid. That's 13 billion. What do you think about that?
>> What are the A lot of foreign aid is not actually central government spending.
It's stuff that we've pledged. They're just going to break contracts.
>> Yeah. I think I think I think the pledge to the British people is probably more important than any international pledge.
I thought the green foreign aid was accounted for in the20,000 uh increase on income tax at all that you wouldn't pay income tax below £20,000 earning.
>> No, we haven't we haven't we haven't factored in the 13 billion because that was something Labour brought in. Um but I think we could stop foreign aid and billion.
>> How about aid to the British people, British workers?
>> 13 billion.
>> Yeah, I think we do spend 13 billion in foreign aid.
>> Adam, is this like a nice little foreign aid for British people? Well, it's not really foreign aid then, is it? It's really just state aid. So look, it's a good idea to incentivize work. The problem here is it feels like we're now complicating the tax code even more. So how are we going to how's it how is this implemented? Right? A better policy would be let's why don't we cut the overall rate of income tax or national insurance or simplify the tax code in some way that might be a pro worker progrowth policy that doesn't give accountants you know more billable hours.
>> Yeah. I guess I guess the thing is right I think British people have said time and time again >> that we're just being taxed too much.
It's just too high. It's it's getting to levels I can't there was there was a economist the other day or a head of of like the IFS or something like that. He said actually Britain's getting to a point now where it's the tax burden is just too high and people want answers.
It's up to people who I think the the policy system like anything anyone earning under 75k. Um but there's also other issues with the tax system isn't there. It's quite a lot. So if you earn like 100 grand between 120 grand, you're on this weird triple tax almost, right?
Where you But you might as well earn less money, which is crazy. So actually, >> which this incentivizes extra work, which is not beneficial to growth. Yes.
>> And so this is something, you know, you want people to work harder, you want growth, and so you got to reward it.
>> Yeah. Yeah. I I I guess the question, Andy, is is it just does leftwing politics understand that that people who pay tax want to pay less of it? Yeah, probably. Yeah. I mean I mean a lot of really you're meant to be about the workers, right?
>> I mean you are you're meant to be about the workers and every time you speak to any any person that's actually working, they want to see their tax burden come down. But it seems to me that leftwing parties are leaning more and more into the unworked part of the population, the people who are unemployed.
>> I think the tax burden t tax burden raised to its historic higher the tries are decidedly right-wing parties. So I think you know blaming this all in the labor market >> but it's just gone higher since they got into office. Right. So >> not disproportionately I think >> and I criticized the tries massively when they did that by the because I think it was a terrible idea but also the economic times with co you could you kind of could understand why they want they needed to do what they did.
However, now we're past that point.
The chancellor just had a windfall tax uh season by you make 38 billion or something like that in in extra cash.
>> Not workers.
>> No but on the ultra rich. I mean come on. I mean, look, the the point is is that it doesn't matter, right? We can have a we can have a we can obviously have discussions about taxing the rich separately as well, but the average worker, which is what this is aimed at, needs a tax break, >> but it's not just the average worker.
This is anyone earning below £75,000.
The average salary is what £34,000. So, it's also people are doing reasonably well. You know, I'd say if you're No, I think if you're earning 50 grand or more, you're not an average worker.
>> But can I ask you a question? Do you believe as I guess you're a lefty, >> do you believe that people have a right to wealth creation or do you believe in the redistribution of wealth?
>> I believe in the redistribution of wealth. I think you have to create wealth to redistribute it. I don't think that.
>> But how do you create wealth if people are disincentivized from creating it by giving it all to the government? There has to be an incentive for people to work hard, but people have to be incentivized to work hard to create the wealth >> to redistribute it. I think there's a difference between entrepreneurs doing well for themselves and for the country and them being allowed to flourish and massive international energy companies who keep raising their prices for British consumers and paying out to shareholders. I think there's I think there's a fundamental >> but we're not talking about that. We're talking about an actual person working.
Do you believe that that person is allowed through hard work to accumulate wealth and keep it through hard work?
>> Well, this is interesting, isn't it?
Because I put this to you, Adam. On the same same front page here, Andy Bern's got this death duty, right? This is a this is a national policy. this is what he if he was prime minister I'm sure this is what he he might suggest he's doing which is I'm just trying to read this here millions yeah I know it's a bit blurry millions more families could be dragged into paying a death tax um on their loved ones social status so so again I guess you're seeing the kind of a and b here aren't you like one side more tax one side less tax is that going to be a deciding factor in future general elections >> well right so we mentioned this earlier didn't we the fact that he has relatively few levers he can pull because he's constrained himself. He's saying he will not break the existing manifesto pledges not to raise the big uh the big taxes that will actually raise serious revenue, you know, income tax, national insurance, and VAT. So, you can't touch those. You're very very limited in what you can do. Um so, you you have a levy here, a duty there, you know, we don't call it a tax, so people we convince people it's not really to taking their money. Bit like what national insurance is. Um >> yeah, it's always he's got he's got very few options. This is I wonder how long it'll last. I wonder you turn on. I >> I guess the reason why I'm asking whether economics is important because we've for so long British politics, immigration is the top issue in Britain right now by by by most polls, right? Is that going to swap? Is that going to swap?
>> Cost of living cost of living as we say, but I think that's rubbish. It's tax.
It's how much you're taxed in the country. Is that Do you think that's going to change? You see a change in that or do you think immigration will remain the top issue?
>> But but Alex, >> I Yeah, I don't I think by the time you Okay. So in the net migration we have the statist we had these statistics a couple of days ago right >> going down significantly >> so I but but a lot of people are leaving but yeah fine here's my point you know that people will still feel that their their money doesn't go as far as it used to therefore perhaps cost of living does raise tax becomes a bigger issue economics becomes the most salient um topic in the next couple of years it might take some time >> but they're not two separate matters because mass migration has caused a suppression of wages because as we say the left always say well we need to import uh uh people because there's British people that won't do it and they're the only only foreigners will do it at cheap wages well that keeps wages >> very low and we've had wage suppression from the '9s up to now and so wages are suppressed taxes keep going up inflation keeps going up and people just keep getting less of what of what they earn >> I mean net vigration has gone down hundreds of thousands when >> this last year I don't feel much better >> from from aund6 60,000 came into Britain and it's just because I think I think also I think I think I think also I think also to blame it on the left want this the left want that is the capitalist class you know the capital capitalist class don't distingu distinguish between a British worker and a migrant worker they see them as a number on a sheet they just can get away with taking them it's a very migrant workers more well it's a very want more migrant workers isn't it because you get cheaper labors I mean it's capital system that is actually in wanting more less wages in wanting cheaper migrant workers, you are fueling the capitalist system because a capitalist system just wants less cost and higher weight and higher prices. We're not seeing lower prices for for the amount of they're paying for their workers if I'm making >> because it's going in their pockets.
>> Well, exactly. So, you >> It's going in the shareholders pockets.
That's why mass migration of lowwage workers. You are fueling a capitalist system. How do you feel about that?
>> I mean, the whole obviously immigration plays a part. We spent 400 billion to pay everyone to stay at home during the pandemic and not work.
>> Completely bonkers idea. completely bonkers and that was all the >> of course it was everyone I mean it was Boris Johnson who did all that and we can talk about that till the cows come home but you know don't expect uh inflation to remain at 2% or whatever if you spend 400 billion pumping uh with quantitive easing pumping free money into the the economy for two years all right look uh coming up we've also got more front pages for you including the independent leading with this of course massive cues at dober today and's promotion to the Premier League as well congratulations Hull isn't looking forward to seeing whether Spurs can survive next week as well. And of course, we'll take a look at some stories leading the GB News front page, too. Lots of chaos in the channel, isn't there? That's all coming up next.
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Uh, so this is the Park Theater up in North London. And again, this is more of my love of local theaters, regional theaters, community theaters.
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Welcome back everybody. Let's get some more headlines for you. The independent EU membership can be fasttrack fasttracked, top officials say. So massive holdups at do cause French authorities to suspend the EU entry exit system. Um interesting that isn't it?
Those rules are somewhat flexible. I didn't know that. The Observer.
Political football. Did the CIA poison the goalkeeper Gordon Banks to sabotage England at the 1970s World Cup? That's quite a niche story, actually, isn't it?
It's quite a Oh, there you go. We got We got Andy on that one. Yeah. All right.
Uh interesting. Uh the star, three lines on my shirt. There we go. Stadiums at the World Cup are to get quiet rooms for supporters who hate cheering. Well, don't go to a stadium then. Yeah, literally don't go to a stadium. What are we doing? Why? Why is this all happening to this planet?
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>> Oh my goodness. I can't It just It winds me up. Something royal. Uh the son, she's electric. Nolles, stunning new girl, 28, no comment. Uh the Daily Mail, my phone was hacked by Moscow, says Nigel Farage. And leading the GB news website tonight, the European Union rejects Karma's Brexit reset demand in major setback for K. Uh channel migrants hospitalized after boat capsized and a major rescue in the channel. Um look, so let's go to the mail, shall we? Phone hacking. We've talked about this a lot now. Nigel Farage is saying that this 5 million pound gift that's become a big deal in the press was leaked as a result of this phone hack. Ila. Uh, quite serious quite serious allegations if if if if it's true.
>> Yeah. I mean, it's the first I've heard of it. But I mean, you you do wonder how the Guardian got the information.
>> Yeah.
>> Hang on. So, if if the Russians hacked it, so the Guardian are are are in cahoots with the Russians. Is that how they got the information?
>> I I couldn't comment on that.
>> Getting illegal information from the Russians.
>> Who knows, right? The party source here, Reform Party source says only four people in the world knew about this this donation or the gift as they're calling it. And so Nigel decided to submit his mobile phone for forensic analysis by counter espionage. Adamite quite quite fascinating. He's actually decided to give his phone over to uh counter espionage team and they said he's been hacked by I'm assuming by Russia.
>> Yeah, it's huge. I wonder where only four people in the world. I wonder where this is going to go next. Interesting.
You know what else if if this is true?
What else does Moscow know and who else are they hacking?
>> Yeah, because it's a big concern. We've seen a lot of Russian games, haven't we?
Well, also, you know, bear in mind, look at the um at the Mandlesson debacle. A lot of government is run via WhatsApp, right? It's not as if it's some on some super secure uh watertight infrastructure.
>> If there if this is true and they are capable of doing this, it is not only Farage they're targeting. So, what's next?
>> I mean, if this is true, it's awful. you know, a senior politician, you know, he's not actually got an official role in the opposition, but a senior politician who is dealing with pretty sensitive stuff has impacted by Moscow.
That's awful. And if it is true, >> something needs to be done about that.
But I mean, it seems somewhat convenient that the 5 million donation from his pal who has been bankrolling Reform UK and its predecessor just happened to be hacked by the Russians and released into the wild.
Like, >> so you're not buying his story?
>> I don't I mean, I can only see the, you know, paragraph and a half on the front page of the the mail print out. I've got to have to read it in more depth, but I don't know. I don't think where it came from excuses the fact that he got 5 million quid in the gift from >> his biggest his biggest political donor >> and didn't declare it. Ila, >> well, I know we've repeated he didn't have to declare it.
>> Wait, well, that's up for debate at the moment.
>> Well, we'll see what happens. He didn't have to declare it. And you know, if I was a billionaire and I had that much money and I wanted to save my country and I know Nigel's the only person that's going to do it, I want him alive in 10 in two years for the or three years, I'd give it to him as well. 5 million for Christopher Harbaugh is probably like 5k for you and I.
>> I think I I don't know. I think the rules are pretty clear that if there's any doubt obviously not well, if there's any doubt, no one >> if anyone would look at it and go, well, he probably should have you should declare it. He should have How many other millions of gifts does he did he get in that period?
>> Well, it's up to him. It's a private matter.
>> Yeah, I don't think I This is the difficulty, isn't it? Because if he he wasn't standing for parliament at the time, he had no intention to stand. I actually I actually remember saying being on this show and saying, "You've coped it, Nigel, for not standing at the time because that's that was the lay of the land and there was no indication he was coming back. Richard Ty was leading them into that election and then Nigel very very brief like periods after this this donation came through. So I think there's a lot of question marks around that isn't there as to whether or not he he he knew or he didn't know whether the parliamentary committee will we'll find I'm sure that we'll find out shortly on that one. Um but but Adam when it comes to phone hacking we've seen it here in Britain it's been a big issue Leon inquire when journalists were hacking phones of of celebrities for example big big issue and we still see this happening today but now from Russia who are a serious threat to us. Yeah, absolutely. It won't just be Russians, will it? I suspect the Iranians and other other hostile states will have an interest in doing this again if this if this is true. But we know this sort of stuff does go on regardless of this specific story. And like I said earlier, you would be shocked at how how government comms how whiteall really works often. It's it's incredible. So if if this is true, um they they'll be able to find a lot more very quickly.
>> Yeah. And this is why I don't trust the government with digital ID or anything.
I don't trust them with any of my data, with my NHS data, nothing. And I think it's a terrible idea to give government more and more power, more and more insight into our lives when they can't even look after themselves. There we go.
Look, coming up, we've got loads more for you here on the show. Every panel, thank you so much for being here tonight. We've got loads more coming up next on Late Edition.
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>> Hello there. Good evening. This is your latest GB News weather update provided by the Met Office. Hope you've had a lovely start to this bank holiday weekend. Many of us will continue to see a fine one as we head into Sunday. And overnight as well, it'll be relatively fine and clear, particularly for areas of England and Wales. We might see some mist and fog patches forming, maybe even a little sea fog still lingering around the far southwest, but it should really readily clear first thing on Sunday morning. Temperatures in rural areas may just dip down into single figures. So, a little fresh and chilly for some of us, but most of our urban cities and towns will hold up in double digits as we kick off Sunday morning. Throughout tonight and into tomorrow though, we do still have this cloud lingering across the far northwest. And this will continue to bring outbreaks of rain particularly for the highlands also around the outer heeds and eventually over towards Orne.
But other eastern and southern areas of Scotland managing to see some sunshine break through as well as eastern counties of Northern Ireland. The bulk of the sunshine though really reserved once again for parts of England and Wales. Almost waterall blue skies for some of us though. A little bit of fair weather cloud bubbling up in places.
With all that sunshine around remember that UV levels are going to be high.
Some very strong sunshine out there. So the potential for sunburning quite quickly, but pollen levels are also increasing. We're starting to see the grass pollen emerging. So hay fever sufferers be aware as well. Top temperatures into Sunday likely to be around 31° C in the southeast, but quite widely seeing into the low to mid 20s across the board. This area of high pressure that we've got around at the moment is sticking with us into Bank Holiday Monday. We do still have that front across the far northwest, but with the high pressure building in, it should hopefully break that front up as we head into the second half of Monday. So, it will take some time, but eventually the rain will begin to ease here. But really, for many of us, it's a fine and pleasant bank holiday Monday to be getting outside, though. Increasingly warm, potentially our hottest ever bank holiday on record with temperatures only just slowly decreasing as we head into next week. Bye-bye.
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My phone was hacked by Moscow. That is the front page of the mail here. That is Nigel Farage claiming that that leak of the5 million pound gift um has of course come from a hack by Moscow. Quite a serious allegation that one. The Sunday Times Andrew faces an allegation um over Ascot incident with a woman. We'll talk more about that as well. Um, reformers saying they're going to scrap the cabinet office. Is it just doesn't fit anymore modern Britain, does it? And they're also saying they're going to axe tax on overtime. All of that coming up on Late Edition.
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