In legal proceedings, cultural ceremonies and personal circumstances can significantly impact witness testimony and court proceedings. During the Senzo Meyiwa trial, advocate George Valoy abruptly ended cross-examination of witness Unanzi after learning that Unanzi had taken unpaid leave from October 27-31, 2014, to perform a cleansing ceremony for his deceased child, which involved goat slaughter and family cleansing rituals. This revelation revealed that Unanzi's previously perceived inconsistencies were actually misunderstandings about his personal situation, demonstrating how cultural practices and personal tragedies can influence witness behavior and testimony in court.
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FINALLY RE-EXAM, NTANZI MENTIONS SIFISO MEYIWA, HEART BREAKING REASON WHY NTANZI WAS ON UNPAID LEAVEAdded:
And just like that, advocate George Valoy ended his crossexamination of Unanzi abruptly. It was not the plan.
Don't think it was the plan. Remember, he had told us he was at the tail end of his cross examination and was going to conclude his crossexamination on Tuesday. Tuesday being yesterday and then Jiggy Jiggy he came up with a backdoor strategy and was about to go into some I think six week long cross-examination of Unanzi and Gininda's uh witness testimony cuz you know Ganinda was on the stand for months and months and months and months and months. Okay. But anyway anyway my lord made a ruling. Oh my lord. Yes.
My Lord said, "Uh-uh.
Uh-uh. You've wasted the time that you had. I tried to tell you, but you don't listen." No, you cannot crossexamine.
>> You cannot cross-examine Danzy on Ganinda's uh witness testimony. Ganinda Brigadier Bongi Nicholas Ganinda. Mhm. The one who's on page 283 of Paul Salivan book.
Yep, that's him. So crossexamination ended guys just like that. It was so abrupt and then next thing Ramisili is right there taking his position and you can see he has been taking notes.
He's going in chronological order which is typical of Ramipelli and everything is written down sequential. It is that moment. Remember the moment in Dani promised us.
>> He told Advocate George Bow several times.
I know. I know. Advocate Gomezu Tani Joshua Gomezu the late he promised us that crossexamination with Brigani Nicholas Ganenda on page 283 was going to be lit. We all looked forward to it.
Unfortunately, he fell sick and then cross-examination with Gininda did not start with advocate Joshua and Gomezulu.
It proceeded to start with Omniim and then it was going to end after Shaolo.
It was going to be advocate Joshua. We never saw that moment.
I bring that up to say that tomorrow is not promised to anyone. So as much as we expected advocate George Bowie to finish yesterday, he did not. But thank goodness freedom came today. Okay.
>> So just like that, Advocate George Lloyd took his seat.
But what we didn't realiz is that he was just taking his seat temporarily because yes, he was popcorning the whole day. It was a popcorn ceremony. Oh my goodness.
But can I tell you I want to start the review from Ramasili with the moment Danzi talks about the ceremony and my realization that this is why when he was being cross-examined by advocate George Baloy oh I think that was the beginning of where unani unpeled himself and we got to see this other side of Unanzi, the side that responds back to advocate George Baloy and places him in his place. I remember doing a video and saying Danzi went for advocate George Baloy's son. Um only to find out today that I think in my opinion, this is my opinion from where I am sitting. Okay, I think it I think I misread the situation obviously don't not having all the information on hand. It was because Danzy himself lost his child.
That passion came from that place. That protection where he would not give details. He would not go deep into anything was because he lost his child.
Can you imagine the ceremony that he spoke about was for a child who had passed on?
I don't know how I missed that. I must have missed it. If it was said before, I completely did not hear it. I must have been passively listening like the giant logo people. But just hearing it today, my heart broke into a thousand pieces for him. Just imagining the sheer pain.
Yeah. Just imagining the sheer pain because it's reliving the emotions of having lost a child and then reliving it in such a public way and then having to speak about you know the lady that I was like I was in love with at the time, the mother of my child at the time and going into those details and you know how these ceremonies Let's go. Families be family.
Okay. Families be familying.
Um, so I I just wanted to start this video by saying, wow.
Wow. What what a moment. Let me play the clip here. I'll be back, of course, with the rest of my commentary because you already know.
>> That's the court. Now let's come to this aspect of the unpaid leave that you took from the 27th of October 2014 to the 31st of October 2014.
2014.
>> Can you Mr. Tanzi clarify in your own words why you took that absence of leave from work the unpaid leave for that period?
>> Yes. I was going go I was going home to go and perform a ceremony for the child and I was also going to to go and pay loala for the person that I was in a love relationship with.
>> The ceremony for your your child. You've stated in court that he he or she is normal. Correct?
>> Yes.
>> Now, can you describe or clarify for us the nature of that ceremony? What what did it entail?
Uh when a child passes on uh we we get cleansed or I get cleansed by by the parents and a goat is also must also be slaughtered.
>> And where does such a ceremony take place?
back home.
>> When you say at your at home at your uh parental homestead or at the homestead of the mother of the house, >> mother of the house.
>> Let me as a please m these are completely new aspects that don't arise from cross cross examination.
>> No, let me let me and at that ceremony Mr. Antanzi who is required to attend >> uh uh my family members uh together with the mother of the child but she didn't come because of certain reasons uh involving her parents >> and you've also mentioned the incom or for lack of better word I don't want to mischaracterize the the ceremony. Would I be correct to mention it as the ceremony?
Yeah.
Yes, it is. And what does that entail in your culture?
Uh it is an indication of a relationship and it it also indicates that we are now moving forward.
uh because I would be taking in other words those cows or those kettle they would then indicate to me the number that they require and once we get to that uh number or I get to that number then there would then be uh some ceremonies in between before we get to the actual marriage.
>> Okay. And where does that ceremony the global ceremony take place?
back home in who is required to be present at that ceremony.
I don't know when it comes to her side of the family, but on my side of the family about three or four people would go.
And for both these ceremonies, do you confirm that your presence your presence was required and necessary?
With regards to the loa where they are taking the kettle to the other side of the family, I don't go there. But with regards to the ceremony of the child, I am expected to be there because I'm the one that has to be cleansed.
uh with regards to the one of the lobola uh ceremony at home I will be there uh it's whether my big brother or my father would then lead the way in saying that this particular kettle will go and this one would go because a kettle gets pointed out as to which one exactly will have to go so I will be there with that at home >> and did these two ceremonies take place during the period 27th of October to 31 October >> m I don't really know if we have to keep on objecting But this is a clearly leading question.
>> My lord, I premised the my question with did this two occasions occur during this period? How is that the leading question my lord? It's putting the words in the in the witness mouth. Perhaps if my learned friend was to rephrase that question.
>> Guess who's back? Woo! Back again.
Advocate George Valoy has regained his stripes. Ladies and gentlemen now that he is no longer being forged and floged and floged every day by Unanzi. He is back and he's on alert for petty petty leading questions. The objections were objectioning throughout day in day out.
Advocate George Valoy wanted to make sure no backdoor entries. Although he's Mr. Expert in backdoor additions, but he will not allow the defense to let more evidence in onto the record. Isn't that something? Hm. What is good for the goose should also be good for the gander. But advocate George Valoy said, "Not on my watch." And you can tell Rama Cilli is getting a little bit upset. But let's continue listening on my lot. It's putting the words in the in the witness mouth. Perhaps if my learned friend was to rephrase that question, when did these two occasions occur?
during these days uh when I had applied or requested for unpaid leave. Now the leave form records the reason for taking the leave the leave days as uh personal problems. Is that an accurate description of why you took the leaves?
problems.
That's not an accurate recording.
>> And would you regard the two ceremonies that you were holding but were going to hold as personal problems?
No, hence I am saying that it was not recording recorded correctly.
>> Now the state posited to you that these leave days coincide with the period within which Mr. Maywa was murdered.
What is your comment to that?
No, that's not true.
I am not a part of Senzo's death.
One thing Denzi will do is put it on the record. Aka, if I was part of anything to do with the end of Senzo's life, where is Senzo's brothers? Where is Senzo's sister to tell my lord, thank you so much for getting the right people in the dark? Where are they? I'll tell you where they are. They are nowhere in sight. Not inside my lord's courtroom.
In fact, they are outside the club. Mhm.
for lack of a better word, trying to get a good lawyer, a lawyer that will assist them to with all the cases that they have. You know that has opened up a case, not a case. Uh-uh. Cases. He has written open letters. I've read them out to you. And now the family intends to hire their own legal representation because everything in that court is just not make sure. Where in the history of courts have you ever heard of the family not working with the state to get justice for their son in this case Senza. So that is the that is the information. And Dani said, "Uh-uh, where are they? Where are they? Where are the 121 doets? Where is the family?
I need to see the family with my own eyes."
But the family does not come to court.
Not at all. Have you noticed?
Don't believe me? If you look at the witness D family, they are in court. If you look at Oh, I've forgotten his name. The DJ The DJ that was whose life ended because of the DJ whose life ended because of the hijacked building in CBD Joelberg.
His family is always there. They're always inside the court. AKA's family, they were inside the court at the beginning.
Cat Matlala's wife. She's in the court when he's facing the court on his own. I know. I know that's not that's not an accurate example, but you get where I'm going with this. Anyway, with that said, let's get back into it. And Danzy said, "Where is Maya's family?" Well, the quick answer is they are busy working outside the court to get their legal representation. Have you assisted the family with um acquiring the services or should I say the financing to pay for legal representation?
If I had killed Senzo, his brother, okay, his brother would or his sister would have been sitting here and saying my lord, thank you for having arrested uh the tax for me on my behalf.
Now from the proposition by the state that these days coincided with the death or the murder of Mr. Senua the question to you Mr. D is did you take this leave to participate in the killing of Mr. 31 October 2014.
No, I still repeat my lord. I never now.
Now, let's touch on this one. uh the state referred you to the evidence of Mr. Muhani in which he Muani stated that he booked you to the board room on the 17th of June 2020 at the Ptorian SAPS because he wanted to interview you because amongst the Senzo Maywa case you had other several cases against you that he wanted to interview you about.
We'll come to those cases. But the the the issue that I want to raise is that when Muane asked you about your whereabouts on the 26th of October 2014, he states that you told him that that you were at work, meaning that you were on duty on the 26th of October 2014.
October 2014.
That's not true.
Firstly, I never spoke to in the boardroom.
In the boardroom, I was speaking to Gininda as well as >> I never spoke I never spoke to Muana.
That's not true at all.
And when you were asked this question about your whereabouts in the in the boardroom, uh what was your response?
Your whereabouts on the 26th of October 2014 in particular October 2014 I said that I could not recall. I then said because I am a gainfully employed person. If I am not at work then I am home.
Uh because what we were arguing about in the Balot they were claiming that or alleging that I was unemployed and that I was in the taxi business or industry.
I then said that I don't even own a single taxi.
even the place that they were claiming that that I was staying in I said uh being forced I then said I won't even be able to point out false >> and has your answer throughout these proceedings changed regarding your whereabouts that you stated that either you were at home or at at work has it changed throughout these proceedings I've never I have never changed it. They are the ones who changed it.
Okay. Well, I'm reminded of the poll that says Unanzi is inconsistent and over I think 88% said that he was inconsistent.
I might be misquing the number. But with regards to that, here isn't Deni saying I'm not the one who's inconsistent.
They are the ones who keep changing what I said. They said they were asking me and saying I'm a taxi. I don't even have one taxi. What? I'm just a minor. I just work at the mines. And I've said the same thing from the boardroom until today. If I am not at home, I am at work. And by home, he doesn't mean in Rustenberg. He meant at home.
Back home. Back home in the homelands.
Yeah. So, yeah, that is it with regards to this video. Let me know your thoughts in the comment section down below.
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