The Flawless Rebrand: From Tumi to Stogie T | I've Done My Homework Series Premiere

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[00:00:01]If lyricism in South Africa had a final boss, it would be him. A lot of artists rap, but very few architect the culture.

[00:00:10]In this episode, we're going to be talking about a rapper who was not only born in exile, he was the frontman for a live jazz rap band. He then soon rebranded his identity and went on to orchestrate the biggest generational crossover track in South African hip hop history. I did my homework on Stogy T.

[00:00:27]OH MY GOD, WE GOT A HYENA UP IN HERE.

[00:00:32]>> We grinding it for black hearts with no limit. Can be timid. Background hinted.

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[00:00:46]>> Come here. Your name always comes up in conversation. Why is that man? Who who who is stogy t man? Uh >> stogy t is mani.

[00:01:02]So look, in an era where attention spans are short and Tik Tok sounds run the charts, betting on pure unadulterated lyricism is a risk. But for Boy Tumelo Mane, better known as Stogy T, the pin game isn't a trend, it's the foundation.

[00:01:18]If you don't know the history, you don't know the gravity of what this man has accomplished. To understand the climax, you got to understand the origin.

[00:01:28]All right, so let's take it back. He wasn't even born in South Africa. He was born in Tanzania in 1981 while his parents were living in exile. When he finally came back to Suetto in the early '90s, he brought a totally unique perspective with him. By the early 2000s, he wasn't Stogy T yet. He was Tumi. And he was fronting Tumi and the value. One more time, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. WE'RE going to do a big If you are a producer or engineer or just a student of the culture, this era is mandatory. Listening >> to do it's suitable to eat and it's the fruit of my dietary supplement. The poor got to be broke provided by your government. The suits get illegal.

[00:02:40]Troops keep it exclusively for the heroes of the struggle. So they hustle that be eo. That's what you need. I'll cut you a piece of the pie, cut you if there are no supplies.

[00:02:49]>> They just weren't rapping over sequence drum loops. They were a live ensemble blending jazz, poetry, and hip-hop.

[00:02:56]>> But something interesting, you told me that you came straight out of school and you guys started the band in 2001.

[00:03:03]>> Tell me what how did you guys get get to meeting together and how did you decide to conceptualize this this whole group?

[00:03:07]>> Oh man, like you know, I just I I I was I fell in love with live music. It was really, you know, I fell in love with live music and there was like there was like poetry, spoken word movement happening around the early 2000s.

[00:03:19]>> And so, you know, I was doing like a lot of spoken word stuff and it was this house band that used to play um for this for this for this open mic uh night.

[00:03:27]>> And I went out, you know, >> this is you straight out of school, right? This is >> fresh out. Um went out, you know, did a couple songs with them. Really nice. I just I was like, "Yo, let's do it again.

[00:03:38]Let's do it again and again and again."

[00:03:39]And you just felt like they where they were headed was the same place like you know what I mean like I was I was headed as well. A proud people, loud people, a lost people, a beautiful people, EQUALLY PROUD PEOPLE, A PROUD PEOPLE, LOUD PEOPLE, a lost people, a beautiful people, equally people. I'm speaking of your people, all people. Hopefully all people will stop all people, man. I lost people to laws and wars and more evil. I celebrate life never more people on behalf of those who >> they were dropping heavy socially conscious records and touring the globe.

[00:04:13]Tumi became the voice of the underground purist. He was the intellectual, the poet.

[00:04:21]But here's where a lot of artists fade out and get boxed in as the conscious boom bap guy. Tumi did the exact opposite, though. Around 2016, he executed one of the most flawless rebrands in music history. He didn't just change his name, he evolved the aesthetic. Enter Stogy Tigil something that we get to talk about. Um, talk to me about the rebranding because I you know one of the things isn't it an emotional thing because you know you've been this I don't you're probably still the same person but you've been this brand this icon this name is something else. Is there a little bit of emotion when you rebrand?

[00:05:11]>> I think indeed. I mean, I'm, you know, I'm an artist and, you know, you you you want to you want to still feel alive.

[00:05:16]You still you you want to still feel challenge. you still want to, you know, um, create new music, you know, uh, create a new, um, and I think that, um, I felt like my legacy or as as proud as I am of it, sometimes it can be a prison, you know, for you wanting to explore new things or, you know, so I just, I just wanted to go, okay, look, new name, >> you know, I'm not the same guy who came out 15 odd years ago, you know what I mean?

[00:05:42]>> That's dinosaur years, >> you know, things have changed in my life. And you know and and I think you know I I want to be honest and sincere about those you know about those experiences and reflect on them. So you know I just felt like new name you know >> the sound got bigger the lifestyle got luxurious and the bars got even sharper.

[00:06:00]He traded the backpack for a tailored suit and a cigar. He wasn't just rapping about the struggle anymore. He was rapping about the spoils of the war >> and not judging it cuz I think before that that's that's what that's when the stoy thing thing happened. Because before there was um there was a a coming from a moral position of like yo >> yo these are my views these are my values >> and um >> my sister you ain't got to do that >> you ain't >> you really that close man I'm trying to understand like the difference between a especially when I listen to this I'm just like >> but this is what Dumi was saying as as well and you're going to have to like you know unpack So the the proper difference I got you there. So the subt I mean it's look subtle difference.

[00:06:48]>> Yeah. I mean look it's it's it's it's subtle in that it's um it's layered.

[00:06:52]That's you know there's there's things there. You know what I mean? There's things that you kind of have to but the general kind of like functional difference is that on one end it came from like a look this is my position on the world. This is my lens on the world.

[00:07:08]Hey this is my view on it. Check it out.

[00:07:11]you know, and but that was limiting. And as I grew older and as I, you know, I wasn't the same guy who came out when he was 20, 20, 18, 19, you know what I mean? I wasn't that guy, bro. I was like different. I had >> other stresses, other realities.

[00:07:29]You know what I mean? You're like, "Yo, bro, trying to figure it out." You know, so you're like, "Okay, I just kind of want to be I want to I want to just reveal it." He proved that you don't have to dumb down your lyrics to make music that sounds expensive. He positioned himself as the elder statesman, the dawn of South African hip hop.

[00:07:50]All right, so let me set the scene for you. For years, there was a massive unspoken rivalry in South African rap between two of the biggest young stars in the game, Nasty C and A Reese. The fans debated it, the internet fueled it, and everyone thought that they would never be on a track together. But Stoki T steps in and plays the ultimate chess move. He orchestrates a nearly 7minute lyrical marathon featuring himself, veteran MC Mags, Nasty C, and A Ree. But here's the wildest part. He recorded the track with them separately without letting A Reese or Nasty C know the other was on it until the clearances were done.

[00:08:29]>> Walk me through this song.

[00:08:30]>> Let me walk you through it. So, I get I I I find the beat. Shout out to Homage.

[00:08:34]I write to it. I send my verse with the beat to Nasty. I say, "Bro, I need a verse on this, right?" Nasi's like, "All right, cool. Got you. I've got this relationship with Reese now." I'm like, "I got to find a joint for Reese." And then I go, "Wait a minute.

[00:08:48]>> Wait a minute."

[00:08:50]>> And when you're thinking of this idea, Nassie hasn't sent you.

[00:08:53]>> He doesn't say anything.

[00:08:54]>> Yeah.

[00:08:54]>> Yo, Reo, I need a verse on this joint right here.

[00:09:00]He's like, "All right, yo, I messed the beat. All right, cool." And I get the I get the hook from N. I send it to old boy.

[00:09:08]>> Reys has the joint with Nasty on the hook. I tell Nasty. I say, "Yo, >> wait. You tell Reese first."

[00:09:13]>> The first person is Reese. Reese is the first person in >> Tell me that conversation.

[00:09:16]>> That conversation is, "Yo, I don't not sure if you if there's an issue with you and Nasty C."

[00:09:21]>> Yeah.

[00:09:21]>> But like I did ask him to be on his joint first and I just thought afterwards, yo, it might be dope for you to, you know, >> what's the issue? He's like, yo, for me, nothing. I'm like, okay, I'll call you back.

[00:09:34]I call Nasty C. Nasty C is like, "Yo, honestly, I'm not sure. There might be an issue, but like, yo, give me his number." I give him his number.

[00:09:42]>> What?

[00:09:42]>> I give Nasty A's number. 20, 30 minutes later, Nasty's like, "Yo, all good."

[00:09:48]>> But when the song dropped, the culture stopped. It was a massive generational bridge. You had the founding fathers offspring in Stogy T. You had the 2000s era represented by Mags. And then you got the current undisputed kings and Nancy C and a Reese all on the same song together.

[00:10:15]Listen, when Four Horsemen dropped, it was an extraordinary moment in hip-hop. It broke first day streaming records for South African hip-hop song, beating out Drake's numbers in the region. But more importantly, it proved that hip hop as a serious art form where the pin, the delivery, and the engineering matter is still highly profitable. It squashed a beef, united a fan base, and cemented Stogy T as the ultimate mastermind.

[00:10:51]to my rock, my redeemer, Jesus Christ, for his glory and my salvation.

[00:11:01]To the MatePe Foundation, Metro FM, everyone who voted, you don't just honor the Mulanis tonight. You honor the Williams. You honor the Nobles. You honor the Matabanis. You You honor the Mubanis, the Simpsons, everyone who was involved in this moment. Hip hop is about excellence.

[00:11:20]It's about competition. It's about community.

[00:11:24]Thank you very much.

[00:11:30]>> Stogy T didn't just survive the game, he manipulated it. He evolved with it and taught the next generation how to run it.

[00:11:38]That's how you build legacy. If you appreciate deep dives into the culture and mechanics behind the music, drop a like on this video, hit that subscribe button, and check out my breakdown on the latest video right here. And keep creating, keep listening, and I'll catch you in the next one. Y'all be cool how y'all be cool. Don't let nobody tell you how to do that. Peace.