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>> What rule are you quoting? Go >> read right there and it'll tell you.
>> I mean, you you making contact with me.
I'm asking you what are you trying to tell me?
>> I'm one of the managers of the Verizon store.
>> You're the manager.
>> I just want to know why you're recording inside the store.
>> Your name was >> Why are you recording?
>> Why are you recording?
>> It's asking. It's asking why.
>> Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Please, please don't record.
>> Listen. What are you doing, bro? What are you doing?
>> Hello. They I did told him not to go beyond this rope, but he's taking pictures.
>> Okay. So, the only thing I can control is that little >> He is with the DMV.
>> No, I'm not. I told you that.
>> Person in.
>> No, I didn't. See, you're wrong, ma'am.
>> You don't have to be a a smart ass.
>> I'm ask you a question. You said it's against the law. So, will I go to jail?
>> That's how I get >> It's a crime. Cuz if something's against the law, that means it's a crime. When a camera becomes the center of controversy, we are not merely observing the behavior of an individual. We are witnessing how a system responds when constitutional rights are tested right in front of it. In some cases, it reveals confusion in the interpretation of the law. In others, it shows firm assertions that lack clear legal grounding. And in some instances, everything escalates simply due to a misunderstanding between internal regulations and citizens rights. The three confrontations today share a common question. If a right is already enshrined in the Constitution, why does it still have to continuously prove its existence in real life? In the heart of Washington DC, a small camera becomes the very thing that forces an entire system to pause and question itself.
>> I'm one of the managers of the Verizon store.
>> You're the manager?
>> I just want to know why you're recording inside the store.
>> Your name was >> Why you are recording? It's asking. It's asking why.
>> Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Please, please don't.
>> Listen. What are you doing, bro? What are you doing? Hello.
>> The incident begins as a direct test of the boundaries of the First Amendment when a citizen enters an area he refers to as the territory of the Secret Service. Raising his camera toward buildings associated with the United States Secret Service. Without any warning, officers quickly approach.
Let's see how it unfolds.
What's she doing?
>> Yeah, but I mean like flight Thank you.
>> Hello.
>> Okay. I just wanted to ask why you were reporting inside the Verizon store. What is your name?
>> I'm one of the managers of the Verizon store.
>> You're the manager. I >> just want to know why you're recording inside the store.
>> Your name was >> Why you already asking? It's asking why.
>> Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Please, don't question.
>> Listen. What are you doing, bro? What are you doing?
>> Hello.
>> I'm just trying to have an understanding why you're recording inside the Verizon school.
>> What's wrong with Yo, what is wrong with you?
>> What is wrong with you, too?
>> Huh?
>> I said don't report me. Why are you inviting me without the permission?
>> What's your name?
>> Why?
>> Why do you want to know? I want to know who I'm talking to.
>> Yeah, I'm a representative of the Verizon store. So, I just want to know why you're recording while you're pointing a camera inside.
>> But tell me, yo, don't just don't touch it. Okay. Don't you dare touch the camera or myself.
>> All right.
>> I'm not touching you.
>> Yeah. All right.
>> I'm trying to have an understanding.
>> I don't know if you're trying to steal my camera. I'm trying to have an understanding why you're recording inside the Verizon store.
>> Then with your hands like that, you you're a thief. You're going to steal my camera. What are you doing, bro? Why'd >> you come back in?
>> Go back in. They told you to go back in.
They told you to go back in. I think it's the best I buy. The best thing you could do is go back inside.
>> And you, too, man. Keep your hands to yourself.
>> What do you mean?
>> Keep your hands to yourself.
>> Your hands, you keep them to yourself.
You don't touch people. I >> I'm not touching you.
>> Don't touch me.
>> Did I touch you?
>> Don't touch me.
>> Did I touch you?
>> You ready to?
>> I didn't touch you. You ready to >> I I didn't touch.
>> So why you DON'T GO BACK INSIDE?
>> OH, I'm I'm covering my my face.
>> You covering your face? What's wrong with your face?
>> Why are you recording this?
>> Everybody's recording you. This cameras above you. You are recording. Why?
>> What is wrong with you, man? Relax, man.
This America. The door. You got to pull it.
>> Yo, shout out to Shorty. Shout out to Shorty that she's educated and she knows what we do.
Shout out to Shorty. You heard? Shorty Gucci.
>> Hey yo, WHAT UP, ZACK?
>> WHAT UP?
>> I DON'T KNOW. MY GUY WAS AH, THEY WANTED TO steal my You heard?
>> Yeah. Top flight security of the world in Washington, DC.
>> Let's just keep it moving, man. You good? Yeah.
>> All right. All right. Let's keep it moving.
So no people's around as usual when people be bugging right.
Straight up and shiny my peeps.
Welcome to Washington DC.
How's it going, boss?
>> What's going on?
>> You doing all right?
>> I'm good with you. How are you?
>> Good.
>> You good?
>> Yeah.
>> Okay. So, they said you haven't been out here recording for a little bit.
>> Who said?
>> Our officer that's right here in this box.
>> So, what what am I supposed to do about it? No, you're good. We're just wondering if you have any protective interest, any interest in the White House, unusual interest, anything like that?
>> No, no. I I didn't know that this was your What's this? A priest and what we call this? What's this?
>> No, this is a new executive office building.
>> Um, so we have uh some offices in here, Secret Service. Not specifically. This is one of our protected buildings. Um, a lot of staffer stuff, other stuff going on here.
>> Okay. Is it is it open to the public up there or no?
>> No, sir. No, it's not. Nope. Only our passholders, our employees that get screened through us.
>> All right. All right. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, I was just touring around wondering.
>> All good. You're in the public. You can film what you want. We just had one of you were here for a little bit filming.
>> Yeah. I was about to keep it moving, but then I saw you and >> No, you're all good.
>> All right. Thank you very much. What was your name?
>> Officer Burns.
>> You have a badge number?
>> 2903.
>> Thank you very much, Burns. Take care.
>> Secret Service just cleared those. Did you heard my [ __ ] We've been cleared by Secret Service.
Yo, why you didn't pop up and say something, man? You in there locked and [ __ ] all scared, bro. Why you didn't say nothing?
Let's keep it moving.
Let's just keep it moving. My P. What's his by the way?
Yo, where the post office at? How about that, bro? I need a stamp. You're Let's keep it moving.
>> Nowhere.
Take a picture, baby.
That's a horse.
>> Yeah.
[ __ ] chair all the way [ __ ] eating ice cream.
>> Hey, you got to take a tennis ball, right?
>> My cousin taught me. But it's like whenever 10 [ __ ] take a knife, slice it, open it, slap the peanut butter in there.
Close it right.
>> How you doing, bro?
He just wants to get laid >> like every title basic that we got something else for you to lick.
>> He He just wants a piece of [ __ ] >> Are you allowed to take to take him home with you?
>> Yeah.
>> Oh, yeah. Or do you usually It's a regular thing.
>> Oh, okay. Okay.
>> [ __ ] gangster.
>> All right. Marine.
>> So it's a a family dog too, right?
>> Yeah.
>> You know Chest? Yeah.
>> Okay.
>> You know Chess Pol.
>> Hey, look up Chester Paul.
>> Chen Porsch.
>> Yeah. MacArthur McDouglas.
[ __ ] He had a dog, right? [ __ ] in uh the war. He's a white one, >> right? He was My friend pissed him at Arthur's golden fish pond.
The rickshaw pulled in, right? They're going to care a war. [ __ ] the guy had to take a piss. So the rick shop pulled off. They went behind.
>> What?
>> And um house.
>> All right. Take care. Yo, have a good one, man. Peace. You heard?
Look like he thirsty. You But it looks like my guy takes it home.
You heard my something. I don't know. He takes it home. He said kind of, but I'm pretty sure it's a family dog, too. Bro, if he takes it home, his son, his wife, everybody chilling with the dog, not playing with me. He doing here.
No clue.
What's going on?
Don't do it on my face.
No, like 8 hours.
Just give them more.
Huh?
>> What happened?
>> Video.
>> What?
>> Huh?
>> What is >> What was your name?
>> Drake.
>> Drake.
>> Drake.
>> Dre. What up, Dre? I'm with Eli for YouTube. For YouTube.
>> Oh, okay. What's up?
>> Yeah. Yeah. What up? What up? I see you working hard, Dre.
>> I see you. All right, man. Be easy. All right. You too, Dre.
>> All right. Yo, that was Ray right there.
My pap working hard on the on the streets making sure everything gu you down there.
Let's keep it moving. Whoa.
What's going on over here? Where's at my pets?
Yeah.
No clue.
As the footage continues, the confrontation gradually escalates between the individual filming and officials, as well as passers by questioning why he is recording near a sensitive area. A police lieutenant eventually has to call in a supervisor after repeated requests for him to leave the area prove ineffective. But the question still lingers, is this a breach of public order or a test of the limits of the right to record in public spaces?
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Is the sidewalk open?
Sorry.
>> The sidewalk is closed for humans. It's only open for VIPs.
>> Top secret. You heard my [ __ ] >> Only for the Secret Service. Washington DC.
>> Okay. All right.
Okay.
news crew.
Top secret. You heard my base. Let's keep it moving.
Don't know what happened over here, my bab. Secret Service is all out. Fire department.
I don't know if it was an accident or what's going on.
Yeah.
Why would they just say go that way? Oh, what an idiot.
I'm sorry.
>> You're good.
>> I don't know what happened here, my guy.
medical child.
>> Excuse me.
>> It's a child.
>> Hey, what's up, guys?
>> Why you even talking to me? What up?
What up? What's going on?
>> You guys are good.
>> You're right. We're good.
>> Why you giving me all that information?
>> Hey, just You're good.
>> She started talking. She asked me a question.
>> You can record. You're fine. Just >> What's going on? I know I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I know I'm good.
>> Yeah, you're good. Just tell us.
>> Thank you. Thank you. So, why you all up on us?
>> Tell her. Her right there.
>> I already did. I already did. I already did.
>> Did you?
>> Yeah.
>> Okay.
>> That's why I just said you guys are good.
>> All right. Thank you. Thank you. What's wrong with this girl, man?
>> Educate yourself. Yeah. Tap her in the back. Give her a hug.
Why is the Secret Service taking care of that? Because it's the area. I guess right education is very important. I wasn't even, you know, I mean, I don't even know what's going on. She already over here telling us everything.
We learn something new every day.
Every day we learn something new.
Education is very important. I pray mind your business. Learn how to mind your business.
Free speech, too. You heard? Welcome to America.
Mind your business.
Yeah. Hey, give him a hug, too. Want to give him a kiss? Huh?
Come here.
Come here.
Come here. Come.
>> What's wrong with this guy?
No education.
Sneaking up.
Sneaking up.
>> The cop was going to attack you, man.
>> Who was going to attack you?
>> You start to say, "What the >> record?" If they going to attack you, record.
He thought he was going to be attacked by the Secret Service.
>> I was at the light over here and and I was I doing directions and I didn't I didn't quite know where I was and I was looking at my phone. All of a sudden I knocked on the door and the cop parked in the corner. He knocked on my door. I see my attention.
>> Oh, you're the bus driver?
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> Okay. Okay. Where do you go and come from? Uh they came from um Manasses near Manasses.
>> It's like a tour inside. They take a tour.
>> Went inside here.
>> They let me in though.
>> Okay.
>> They won't never let me in.
>> No, >> they never let me in.
>> Oh, VIPs only, huh?
>> Yeah. VIP.
>> What's this over here? The Secret Service.
>> I drove the bus in there one time with the 85 Bears.
>> Oh.
>> Go see uh Obama. But they still wouldn't let me in. I had to sit in the bus.
>> Oh, so you couldn't see Obama?
>> No.
>> I seen the bears though.
>> What's this over here? What's the name of this bu this area building? Secret service. What?
>> This the White House over there.
>> There's not the White House.
>> White House over here. You can't see it, but it's over there.
>> There's not the White House. It's saying this the White House. No, >> it's right over there, man.
>> Nah.
>> Okay. Okay. Since they're on the way.
>> HOW WE END UP IN the White House. Okay.
>> If you walk If you walk way down there, you can go in there. You can get in there and you can go over there.
>> Where's the front of the White House?
>> Oh, down the road here. And wherever you get in, you can't get in here, but you can go down further and get in. You come up like around here.
>> Okay. Okay. Cuz I was in the but they had like a fence far away like in front of the park. We was very far away.
>> Maybe that since I I was in there I was there in November.
>> It's under construction.
>> Oh.
>> So you can't go in the park now. Yeah.
>> So you can't make it over there.
>> No, you can't. You can't.
>> Okay. So they're done with their the trip. You could go up on H.
Take a right >> and we can see the front.
>> Okay, you go.
>> Okay. All right. All right.
>> Where you What you guys doing?
>> We're from New York. We're from New York. We're doing YouTube video.
>> For who? For what?
>> For the people.
>> For people.
>> For the people of the world.
>> Your channel.
>> They call me Eli the people's guy. I hold cops accountable.
>> Eli the people's guy.
>> I hold cops accountable and I educate people about a first amendment right to record in public.
>> I'm from Connecticut. I used to live.
>> Oh, you're from Connecticut?
>> Okay. Where you from?
>> New York, but uh not too much.
>> There's too much movement over there.
>> Especially in a bus, you know.
>> Oh, you can't do nothing with that bus over there.
>> And and and they always try to give you tickets there for the bus.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> You know, the people the people complain if you're you're sitting there running, they >> give you a ticket.
>> All you got to do is say that but they get the tag number and >> that bus been there for too long and you got a ticket. That's it.
>> Yes.
>> Extortion. You hear me?
>> Yeah. We get it all done.
>> Extortion.
>> Yes, sir.
>> So, they're done with the trip, right?
They're coming out.
>> Yeah. Yeah, I want to go home.
>> Oh, you're waiting on them.
>> Yeah, I want to go home. Should have left 12:30.
>> It looks like somebody's not feeling good.
>> Yeah, he ate peanut. He ate peanuts and he wasn't supposed to.
>> Oh, he ate peanuts.
>> Allergic.
>> Allergic to peanuts. Don't be eating that [ __ ] then.
>> You drive them or you fly them?
>> We do both. We do both.
>> We do both.
>> Was the cop gard?
>> Nah, not really. Not the cop. One of the ladies or the lady at school? Yeah.
about your situation, right? But it's public, right?
>> It's public.
>> You know what I mean? It's public.
>> Yeah. You want you get in public, you feel?
>> Yeah. If you're in public, there's no privacy in public, >> right?
>> At all.
>> Correct.
>> You know what I mean? Better yet, we hold them accountable. Make sure that they do the proper thing with with the with the guy. Hopefully, he's okay. You know, but sometimes they do medical malpractice.
>> True.
>> And they don't do the right process. You know what I mean?
>> True. And we'll make sure that they do what they have to do.
>> People, they make mistakes.
>> Exactly. You feel me?
>> Be accountable.
>> And who holds them accountable.
>> That's when we come in. Yo, it was a pleasure. You heard? Look.
>> All right. Take care.
>> But they Oh, shoot. We got another VIP over here.
This the White House, my page. So, they are they took they took the tour of the White House. They was vetted for 90.
They took the tour of the White House and um the bus driver is waiting for them to come out.
It look like they taking his time.
That's why he's recording. He He said he was going to be attacked.
He trying to go home and um the Secret Service. That's why they taking care of the of whoever's on the guy over here cuz he came out the White House. You know what I mean? So something happens. I don't know if he ate peanuts inside the White House or outside the White House, guys.
Truck component number two.
Okay.
>> They just came out the warehouse. You heard my preach? Damn. I don't know. I wasn't Look what >> how Hello. I don't know how we ended up in front of the White House. In front on the side. I think we're on the side.
here.
Say he's going to clear.
Hey, bounce my peeps. If you can't eat peanut, don't eat peanut. You heard my guy a pean over there. Don't record. Don't record. In front of the White House, next to the White House with 3,000 million cameras and the Secret Service right next to her with body cams and everything. Can you believe that?
Let's keep it moving, man. Let's keep it moving. Let's see what else they got on here for me to show my human pics.
You heard? Don't forot to pull up to Z TV and show them some love, guys.
>> And the dispute continues to hang in the balance between the footsteps of authority and a camera that refuses to shut off. Is this a violation or simply a right being pushed to its absolute limits? The second location I'm bringing you to today is not just an ordinary public building, but the Bridge View Community Center, where a tense confrontation unfolded between the right to record and misunderstandings of the law in a public space.
>> They I did told him not to go beyond this rope, but he's taking pictures.
>> Okay. So, the only thing I can control is that >> he is with the DMV.
>> No, I'm not. I told you that.
>> Person in.
>> No, I didn't. See, you're wrong, ma'am.
>> What do you think? Is the Bridgeview Community Center in Bridgeview, Illinois, actually private property or publicly owned? One staff member claimed it was private property, but is that a misinterpretation of the limits of constitutional rights? As the debate intensified, concepts like FOIA were brought up, but they appeared to be vaguely understood and were even challenged on the spot as the citizen argued that the restriction signs in this area showed signs of being unconstitutional.
>> Let's go see. I can help you. Uh, I didn't really need any helping.
>> Okay. Can't take any pictures. No, no recording in here.
>> Really? Who says says who?
>> Right there.
>> Oh, yeah. That's just a sign.
>> No, it doesn't matter. No recording, sir.
>> Someone probably that off, please.
>> Somebody just probably put that sign up for uh She's talking about this sign right here.
>> Yeah.
>> Oh, my man. How you doing, man?
>> Nice to meet you, brother. Thanks a lot.
Appreciate you, man. You must have recognized the voice, huh?
>> Sir, how can I help you?
>> Yeah, like I said, I didn't need any help at the moment. I'll probably get some help from you.
>> Turn the recording off.
>> Recording in this building. The sign is there for a reason.
>> Did someone tell you that? That's what I'm saying.
>> The sign is there for a reason.
>> Yeah, that's just an unconstitutional sign.
>> He was saying something about a sign.
She was saying something like >> and she was pointing to a sign or something, but I was trying to I was trying to let her know that the sign doesn't really like mean anything, you know.
>> What did you do some help?
>> She asked me to say I told her no. I'll let her know momentarily, but she was concerned about me recording because of that signs right there, but I I don't think the sign is uh means anything for River or anything. So, has there anything been helping with? Are you looking for any services?
>> No, not really. Just coming in, seeing what's all available and we're going to walk around the entire building and uh get some uh photos and everything. But >> yeah, unfortunately, in the facility, you're going to be able to record.
>> Really? That's what they That's what they told you, guys.
>> Are you like the highest person here?
>> Uh yeah, I'm the manager.
>> The manager? Yeah. Like I say, the signs are basically unconstitutional. So, we we can do it. I don't know. Have those signs been up for a while or >> Yeah.
>> Oh, yeah. for a long time. I mean, if you want to check with someone probably higher than you, they probably let you know. You guys probably just misinformed, >> right? What are you trying to do, though? I'm just trying to >> Nothing. Like I said, I'm just going to walk around the entire building and record and and uh document that.
>> Okay. Um >> you going to check with someone or >> Yeah. All right.
>> You can't go beyond that.
>> Oh, you can't come past this rope?
>> Really? No.
>> Even we can't see the stuff like this?
>> No.
>> Really?
>> Yeah.
>> Are you sure?
>> Yeah. They just spr a a build a room from our building.
>> We're not This is not all the DMV.
>> This is the community center, right?
>> Yes, it is.
>> This part?
>> Yes.
>> So, are you part of administration?
>> Yes.
>> Oh, okay. So, so I if I had dealings with you, I would I I could come over, right? Yeah. So, I'm not here for the DMV, man. I'm not here for >> Yeah. I'm not here for the DMV at all.
So she said she said this is the so this part over here past this wall this line rather is the community center. Uh that's exactly what we came for today.
>> Uh she say she's part of administration.
Let me see.
>> So are you going to be able to help her?
>> Do you want to rent the rental information or >> No, no. I'm just see maybe get a foyer request for him from you guys.
>> I don't have any request. That girl is not here today.
>> The the foyer lady.
>> Foyer.
>> Yeah. Are you familiar with Foyer?
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> She's in Lions.
>> Lions, Illinois. Okay.
>> Lions Township. Yeah.
>> Lions Township. Is that like another location from away from here?
>> Okay. But so you guys don't have >> it at uh the village hall down the street.
>> You cuz I'm sure you >> I don't have it here.
>> Like you guys have it on your website is what I'm saying.
>> Village office.
>> You don't want to help. I >> I do want to help.
>> Okay. So I'm asking you I'm asking call.
>> I don't I don't have to leave and do it here. I can do it here.
>> Here. The girl has an office here, but she's not here today.
>> Okay. Well, this what I'll do. I'll just put it on a blank sheet.
>> I turn it into you that way.
>> That's not it.
>> Yeah. That that the state of Illinois says we can do it that way.
>> Yeah, I'll do it that way. Okay.
>> Yeah. Yeah. I'm not here. I was trying to tell you I'm not here for the DMV.
I'm here for the community center. So, we'll get some shots of this over here.
And I wish you wouldn't.
>> Private.
>> This right here is private.
>> Yes, it's all private. The Wild Squad and everything we do here is private.
>> Really? The community center is private.
Who is it owned by?
>> I can't I can't disagree with you.
>> I'm just I'm trying to understand what you're saying, man.
I don't understand. Okay. So, she's going to shut the door. Good. That way she can leave us alone. But uh she said um everything from the Lions Club.
>> Oh, so this guy Somebody So I just heard someone's calling the police.
>> Yeah, you're playing without the police is unnecessary though.
>> You can record me?
>> Yes, I can. I can record I can I can record whatever I can see, sir.
>> Yeah, I mean >> I'm doing it right now.
And they are too.
So obviously this lady must have found out that we was good to go cuz I heard that young man say something about the police.
So did you find out ma'am that I was good to go?
>> I didn't find out anything.
>> Oh, you didn't find out anything?
>> Because when he said something about the police, you told him that I >> said something about the police about that.
>> I know. And then you I heard you tell him though that I wasn't doing anything wrong.
That's right. So, somebody told you I was good to go is what I'm saying.
>> No, you're not. You're not harassing us.
So, >> Oh, >> if you don't call the police, he can.
That's his choice.
>> Yeah. We hope not, man.
>> Oh, wow. Yeah. We hope this young man doesn't call the cops on us, man.
That'll be >> It look like that manager guys on the phone, though.
Yeah. So, we go around here. Look like they have a cafeteria or something in here.
>> Oh, yeah. It's like a entire like what? Probably where they Oh, like they might have bingo up in here like like bingo night or something like that, right? I think that's nice.
Definitely. So, man, he's the manager dude right there.
So, yeah. Hopefully, he's just on the phone. Uh, >> is it I mean, were you able to speak with someone?
>> Well, what was it that you were trying to do exactly? Like, so here's the thing. I'm not sure. This is the Bridge Community >> Community Center. Correct.
>> There's also the Secretary of State's office that's in here. That's right.
Right. I noticed that what you're what you're you're doing, you know. So, I'm not going to get involved in anything that you've got going on over here, >> the community center, right? But I'm just saying I know that I noticed after me and you talked, you said you was going to speak with someone. I did send you on the phone. Did someone tell you?
>> Yeah. So, so they did told me told me to point this out and just, you know, let you know.
>> Yeah.
>> Oh, okay.
>> Just inside the facility, we're not allowed to um record video anything.
It's only for seniors.
>> Pass these doors, right?
>> Yeah. So, it's only for seniors also.
It's a senior center.
>> Yeah. I wasn't even I'll be honest with you. I came to the community center, didn't even know a DMV was even in here, so I'm just here, you know, but yeah.
Okay. What's your name again?
>> Abel. Okay. All right. For sure. Have a good day. You, too.
>> The more I observe the behavior of this female staff member, the more it feels like the situation is driven by emotion rather than a clear understanding of the law. Is she confusing internal policies with the limits of constitutional rights, or is she simply reacting under pressure? And then the arrival of law enforcement only adds more confusion to the situation. Why would a dispute like this require the deployment of police officers?
>> Ma'am, what's what's your manager's name? Someone higher than you. Cuz we have to we have to report that you're being unprofessional and not trying to help us.
>> What is it you want?
>> Ma'am, I told you earlier that you're I'm trying to submit a foyer request.
You're telling me to go to a holding spot and I know I can do it right here.
>> I'm sorry, but you can't. I'm the only one here today.
>> Okay, that's cool. And I have no idea what FOYA is.
>> Okay, I will explain it to you, ma'am.
Foyer is Freedom of Information Act, where citizens can come in and request public records.
>> They wouldn't be here.
>> Yes, ma'am. I'm telling you, I can do it here.
>> All I want to do is Are you >> Huh?
>> I'll call the village and we'll see.
>> Okay.
She's going to see how much we already know we can, but >> you're not supposed to be taking pictures in here.
>> Says who?
>> Oh my living God. Like ah these public servants, man.
>> Hi. Hi. This is Pat over at the community center. I have a gentleman here who wants to have a freedom of information uh application.
>> Do I send them to you?
>> No, ma'am. No, ma'am. I can do it right here.
>> They're available on the website and at Village Hall.
>> Yeah, I know. But I can submit it right here on >> There is no one here today, sir.
>> You are here. You're working right here.
I can give it to you.
>> Okay, then go down to Village Hall down the street. Okay. You're not listening to what I'm saying, man. I can submit one with you.
>> So, now she's talking about calling the police.
>> Okay. All right. Thank you.
>> The police is unnecessary, ma'am.
>> I I don't know with you.
>> I'm I'm trying to explain it to you, but you're not.
>> So, fill out a sheet.
>> Okay. Then I'll give it right back to you.
>> Okay. Great. There we go. There we go.
Okay. So, what we'll do here to accept it. I got ready to talk.
>> Right. So when I give it to you, all you do is forward it to your public information officer. That's all you do.
>> I have no idea who that is. I've been here 53 years.
>> 53 years. Okay, that's cool. So all you have to do is contact someone to say, "Who do I send this to?" And you email it right over.
>> She doesn't know. She says you have to do it online.
>> Yeah, she does. She's misinformed.
>> Okay.
>> She doesn't know as well.
>> 25. Okay.
>> So yeah. So I'll put it on a blank sheet and I'll give it right back to you.
>> Okay.
>> All right.
So yeah, this is this is oh man, almost painful to for for for your request, man. Oh my god. Y'all stay tuned, though. See if we can get us a copy and we'll be set, man. And this is I'll explain it. I'll explain it shortly.
All right. So now all I need you to do is stamp receive that and give me a >> I don't have any received. I don't >> You don't have a stamp? No.
>> Okay, that's cool. You don't do any of that.
>> All I need then is a copy of that. I need a copy.
>> I don't The copier isn't working and I don't have it. I I'm sorry, but I don't I tried to copy stuff from the computer today and I couldn't.
>> So, the copy machine back there doesn't work.
>> No. And quit taking pictures. I'm going to inform you right now. This is a private event here.
>> What's a private?
>> We got a bunch of senior ladies coming in any minute. That's why I pulled the rope off.
>> Yeah, but this is this is a community center. It's owned by the public, man.
This is not a private facility.
>> I'm just telling you this is my instructions.
>> Okay. So, like again, what's the point of contact for your manager?
>> I I just need I need his or her >> I know. I just need their information so I can follow up with him later.
>> Larry.
>> Larry. Do we Does he have a contact number that I can contact?
>> I have. It's his sister.
>> Okay.
>> Here. Oh, I don't have I don't have any contact form from the doctor.
>> Another phone.
>> Yeah.
She like this lady that hopefully hopefully she does the right thing with the foyer request because she has to submit it. So I just think she doesn't want to do her job. So unfortunately >> Debbie is Katie is our um assistant manager and she's uh not here today.
>> Debbie Debbie is your assistant manager and Larry is the head manager.
>> He's on vacation for a month so you won't get him.
>> I'm just Okay. I'm just making sure I can read your handwriting.
>> Okay. 708924881.
Okay.
>> All right, man.
>> Going to book all out, man. She didn't want to give us >> Yeah.
>> I was asking down that rope. I don't want the old ladies to have an addiction.
>> You don't want the old ladies to what?
Have an addiction.
>> No, I didn't say that.
>> What did you say?
>> I go beyond the wall.
>> I'm not I'm not going to go beyond the wall. I'm not going to go. This isn't I'm not gonna do it.
>> This lady here is unhinged, man.
>> Oh my living God, man.
>> Mark, come on. Just like that, >> please.
>> I'm in the situation.
>> So, he's calling Mark.
>> He wants a freedom of information, and we don't do that here. and he's giving me trouble and I know my my game players are coming in the old ladies and they I did told him not to go beyond this rope but he's taking pictures.
>> Okay, so the only thing I can control is that >> he is with the DMV.
>> No, I'm not. I told you that >> person in >> No, I didn't. See, you're wrong, ma'am.
You're loud and you're wrong.
>> I took control.
>> Oh, I told you, ma'am. You're wrong.
>> My goodness.
>> How you doing? Doing pretty good, man. I was I thought I was at least until you showed up. What did they say on 911?
>> No, they just said you're harassing them on me.
>> Really? Harassment?
>> Yeah.
>> You know what? I'm What's How do you pronounce your name?
>> Salah.
>> Salah.
>> Yes, sir.
>> So, if they're saying I'm harassment and it's not harassment, that's a false 911 call, right?
>> Well, technically, you know, I just I'm just trying to see what's going on, how I can help you, how I can help them.
>> I didn't really need any help, but I mean, your point of contact is obviously this lady right here, the one that called you.
>> I have no idea who called Anna Sand.
Yeah, it was her. It was the It was the lady that was working right there. I seen her when she was on the phone.
Yeah, right there.
>> Yeah.
>> The one in the blue vest.
>> Not her, but the around in this in these doors right here. I come on. I'll go with you.
>> Okay.
>> Yeah.
>> Do you need help with anything here or No, >> I I mean, she I guess she tried to help me the best way she could. U I've submitted a foyer.
>> Okay.
>> And uh uh >> foyers don't get submitted here.
>> Well, you can submit them. So, the state of Illinois lets you submit a foyer any public entity. They just have to forward it.
>> Yeah.
>> So, she she's going to forward it for me.
>> So, you gave it to her today?
>> Yeah. She just didn't give me a copy of it. But >> 122.
>> She said she didn't have a copy machine at work. So, I mean, but >> I'm not sure cuz I know right now they use this facility for like the uh DMV.
>> Yeah.
>> For the senior citizens.
>> That's what they said. I see the signs, but when I pulled up, I didn't even I didn't even Oh, that's your partner right there.
>> Yeah.
>> Okay. Yeah. I didn't know they had a DMV, but it's still it's still public property. So, and and that was the whole entire point of uh just contact >> Yeah. She's She's very unhappy.
>> You're just trying to follow up with the foyer is basically all all I'm understanding.
>> Yeah, but I I don't I don't That's what I said. I don't even >> submit it here. You said today.
>> Yeah, with the young lady at the desk right here. Yeah, this front desk right here.
>> That's what I was asking you also. What did they actually say on 911? Oh, but they said harass me.
>> Well, the note said something getting harassed.
>> Okay. Yeah, her right there. Yes.
>> How are you?
>> How you doing?
>> How can I help you?
>> Yeah.
Mhm.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Absolutely.
>> Yeah. Okay.
Okay. Well, >> what's that? I'm sorry.
>> Okay. Well, uh I guess he already submitted the paperwork, so he'll just forward it over and you know, obviously that takes a couple >> five days. Yeah. But I mean, while you're here, officer though, because I obviously hear why her whole main concern is me recording her. While you're here, it'll be a beautiful thing for the people if you can educate her that we have a right to film in public cuz obviously she doesn't know.
>> I don't want to be filmed.
>> I understand. But due to it being a public facility, they're allowed to.
>> Yeah.
>> Oh, wow. Uh, man, it is. But hey, that's crazy cuz I was I was right in at the end of my day here cuz I see you pulled up. So, I had to have a dialogue with you just to see what they said. So, >> it's nothing to it, man.
>> Yeah, it's all good, man.
>> Man, it's a beautiful day, man.
>> I can help.
>> Um, you know what? Before you kick out, if I can just get the cat number. Yeah, I'll be set for that. Yep, for sure.
>> Look, I just want to tell you, man.
Look, I enjoy your videos.
>> I appreciate you, man.
>> And I get much respect from law enforcement, sister. You talking with him, brother?
>> Oh, yeah.
>> Yeah, >> man. We appreciate you recognizing us, brother. Man, appreciate you being part of the TTA family, man.
>> That's what's up, man. Yeah, that's that young man right there. As soon as we walked in, he was telling somebody he was sitting with, he like, "That's the Tyrant Terminator." Shout out. I like running to the TTA family.
But, uh, yeah, this was wild thousands right here, man. But it is what it is, man.
Man, it's beautiful out here today, man.
I think it's about 82. Perfect, man.
Definitely definitely going to bring the convertible out today, man. Maybe about 3 4ish. I try to time it, man, so I can ride around for a couple hours, then by the time I come home, the New York Knicks should be playing. So, >> all right. I want it on the back of here for you.
>> Okay. This is the event number similar to what you're referring to as a CAD.
It's the same difference.
>> Okay. Event number.
>> So, basically that's the >> that's for the uh crash. So, that won't really Okay.
>> apply to you, but that's the number.
>> Okay.
>> Uh for the 911 call >> for sure, man. And then your badge. I I didn't even get it.
>> But my badge number is 117.
>> 117. Okay. Cool. Appreciate it, man.
>> Absolutely.
>> All right.
>> And in the end, the narrator concludes that this encounter exposed a troubling reality. Many public employees still attempt to restrict filming inside public buildings before stating that he will directly contact their supervisors, Larry and Debbie, to formally file a complaint. Do you believe it? Not every confrontation begins with a crime.
Sometimes it starts with nothing more than a camera.
>> You don't have to be a smart ass.
>> I'm going ask you a question. You said it's against the law. So, will I go to jail?
>> That's how >> it's a crime. Cuz if something's against the law, that means it's a crime. Once again, just like in the previous incident, an employee named Edgar continues to assert that filming inside the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey building violates policy. Yet, he is unable to cite any specific law to support his claim. How long will First Amendment rights be forced to justify themselves within the very public spaces they are meant to protect?
>> Excuse me. Are you recording me?
>> Am I recording you?
>> Yeah.
>> Why?
>> Cuz you walking around with a camera on me.
This camera's on you all day.
>> Yeah. Please don't record me.
>> I'm okay. Thank you.
It's 11:34.
Sir, why you call her?
>> I know this. I prove respect. Who are you?
>> What's your name?
>> Why I have to give you my name? You cannot recall her. You cannot recall me.
That's illegal.
>> What? You going to arrest me?
>> I don't say I'm going to arrest you. I said it's illegal. You record me without my permission.
>> What's your name?
>> Why you need to know my name?
>> Edgar.
>> Yes. What happened?
>> What's up, Edgar? You came up to me. How can I help you?
>> You're here recording people.
>> So, >> so you know the law. You cannot record people without >> For real? Can I have your permission?
>> No, I You cannot have my permission to recover. Uh, am I going to go to jail?
>> You don't have to be a a smart ass.
>> I'm ask you a question. You said it's against the law. So, will I go to jail?
>> That's how you >> It's a crime. Cuz if something's against the law, that means it's a crime. So, it's a crime to record in public.
>> Gotcha.
>> Oh, you you see how your your your logic?
>> You say you want me to follow you?
Edgar, you want me to educate you, Edgar?
>> Educate.
>> You know what the Right to Record Act is? That's a law that says that we can record all security guards in New York.
You know that? Police, security guards, anybody. You're a security guard. I could watch you all day. Is >> there a problem?
>> This is Edgar. He said it's against the law to be caught.
>> Oh, is it?
>> No.
>> What law would that be? Is that a misdemeanor or a felony?
You got to educate yourself, Edgar.
>> This is the United States.
>> He tried to save her. He tried to save her.
>> You calling the police, Edgar?
>> Yeah.
>> You call the police?
Should I wait for them?
It's a secret.
You call the police. Should I wait?
Should I run?
>> Why don't you help her, Edgar? She need your help.
>> No. See, baby ain't >> I saw you call someone today. Did they educate you? Let him know that you should listen to these two guys.
>> He knows we could record. He said it and then he tried to say it's against the law. Oh my gosh.
>> He said it's public. You can record, but it's against the law. What?
>> Oh wow. It's like two mutually exclusive statements to say.
>> That's no bueno.
>> He don't like me. Look how he looking at me.
Yeah, stay tuned.
>> Edgar, why don't you teach her what the right to record act is?
>> Miss, we could record all security guards in in New York. It's the law.
Look at the walk of shame. That's the walk of shame right there. The walk of the newly educated, should I say. But I don't think he got educated.
I think he's still stuck in his ignorance.
What y'all think? Let me know.
How you doing?
>> So, um, right now we're trying to do recording and stuff. Um, it's allowed.
Recording is allowed, but you can't record our major like >> as long as we're not popping over.
>> Let him just let let him talk. Let him talk. Let him talk. We're in Port Authority building.
>> Port Authority has rules, regulations.
You can't record it.
>> Listen first. Just listen first.
>> Funded governmentally. You guys, >> how much you want that?
>> All right. So, you can't record in there, right? Supervisor is right there.
You want to talk to >> you saying that this isn't public?
>> This is a public.
>> So, we can't record >> private and public. Public >> What private What private areas are we in?
>> Is this a private area?
>> I'm saying what the building is.
>> Is this a private area? Yo. Yeah. But yo, yo, y'all didn't talk before, right?
>> Y'all didn't discuss this before y'all came over here.
>> There's certain parts of the building that you guys just can't >> So, you guys want to look at the rules and regulations right here on the >> We know the rules.
>> It's public, bro.
>> What's the rule? It's public.
>> It's a public building.
>> So, what are you talking about?
>> Saying what right up there if you want to read them.
>> What rule are you quoting?
>> Go and read right there. And it'll tell you.
>> I mean, you you making contact with me.
I'm asking you what are you trying to tell me.
>> Whatever that sign says is whatever goes. That's regulations.
>> What do you you What are you making contact with us for?
>> Why you making contact?
>> You can't record in this building.
>> Of course you could. It's public.
>> Of course. I've been recording here for years.
>> Right there. Right here.
>> You can't record in the public building.
>> You can't record in this building.
>> In this public building.
>> In this building.
>> Can't record public building >> for a supervisor. Somebody ask for a super.
>> No. I mean, he's trying to say we can't record in this public building. You agree with that?
>> You're going to supervise on scene.
Sergeant >> Relax. Relax.
>> So, she's trying to understand what the issue is.
>> Okay. Reporting. Are you interfering with anybody or >> whatever you see us doing?
>> No. No. I'm I'm asking you a question.
Prior to my arrival, >> is that Did somebody tell you that?
>> Your officers Your officers are telling us this is a private building and we can't record it here. You said it's public and private.
>> It can't be public and private.
>> Yes, you can. Stairs. It's a ticketed area.
>> You mean restricted areas?
>> That's restricted.
>> No, it's a private. So, you have >> There's all restricted There's always restricted areas in public buildings.
>> If you would step down to Greyhound or the 400 g, the 300 gates and you don't have a ticket, you're summoned to see.
>> There's always restricted areas in public build. That's why you have signs.
>> There's also signs saying what you can and cannot do. I wanted to show you the rules and regulations, but no state right here.
>> What are you trying to say? What rule?
Are we breaking a rule?
>> I say if you want to read the rule of regulation, we have dispatch >> here from our desk and that's it. It's a public. It's a public building.
>> You can report in the areas that are public.
>> Wow.
>> I appreciate you educating them.
>> Everybody got that?
>> You know that you're supposed to protect our right to record >> something every day.
>> You also do you know what the right to record act is?
>> Regulations.
>> You know what the right to record act is?
>> Why would you come out to me? Do you know?
>> You don't like my beer?
>> I approached you. Say, "How are you doing?"
>> You have it open.
>> I apologize.
>> You want to sight me for it?
>> Sorry. I'm not going to get involved with you.
>> I mean, you bring it up. Are you going to sight me for it?
>> That has it in your hand, right?
>> So, you want to site me for it?
>> All right. So, don't even bring it up.
>> So, when you go up and then up again, 300 gates. So, when you get up there, that's where you need to check. There's signs that say even right before the right No, >> I'm not saying I'm >> just telling you where the 300 kids are.
That's it.
>> There's there's signs right before the escalator letting you know if you go up this escalator, you need a ticket.
>> You know, you know how to read and we can figure it out. But I appreciate you.
>> We just responded out here. We were dispatched here.
>> Sergeant, can you let them know what the right to record act is?
>> Yeah. No issue recording. certain parts of the building they cannot destroy, >> you know, regarding like >> like the bathroom >> obviously going to that too, but >> we could go there if we had a ticket of the building where >> we could be going if we had a ticket.
Don't go in the bathroom and record cuz you wouldn't want to hear.
>> That's what That's not what That's what you're saying. They're telling us to look at the rules that we can't record in here. That's what they're saying.
>> No, you got to tell them.
>> Sergeant, you got to tell them. They're telling us we can't record in here.
>> Okay. And I'm telling you, no problem.
Okay.
>> So, you don't have to educate us. You have to educate your officers. That's what I'm trying to tell you.
>> I don't know what the deal is. I'm agreeing with you. I'm telling you.
>> Okay. Please. You don't have to educate them in front of us cuz it might be a little bit embarrassing. But if you want to take it to the side, let them know it's a public building because they said it's a public building. So I don't understand where the confusion comes from.
>> And obviously >> I mean that's that's obvious privacy in a restroom. No, it's not obvious. For some people they may not.
>> It's against the law to record seritiously >> where people have an expectation of privacy to get naked.
>> People aren't getting naked out here. So >> we're good.
>> Yeah, we've been good.
>> You guys are good.
>> Parts of the building that anybody know?
>> We've been good. We didn't call you guys.
>> You guys made contact with us >> over here. I had nothing to do with this that I see all this going on. By the way, sir, I got a question. You had mentioned terrorist. Has there ever been a single terrorist >> who came in with a camera before they terrorized like ever?
>> No, no, no, no, no. Think about if you think about what happened in New Orleans, right? I'm going to say this one thing and I'm done. If you think about what happened in New Orleans, right, before that happened, right, they already drove through there, >> right, prior to that event actually happened, right? So, like I told him, I'm not saying you guys have any bad intentions. I'm just saying that like if anybody were supposed to do that, they may scope out the building.
>> Do you know that?
>> I'm not I'm just saying in general. I'm just saying.
>> Do you know that we could Do you know that we could request this camera footage? It's public information, so we don't even have to come here.
>> You guys enjoy the rest of our day. All right.
>> All right. But now you know, right?
>> Yeah. Yeah. I had no problem.
>> We got to rewind the tape. We got to rewind the tape. We got to rewind the tape on that.
>> We got to rewind the tape on that.
>> No, but you can't record our major.
>> Yo, let's go look at the rules and regulations that they talking about.
She's like, "You got to open container."
I said, "So, sight me for it."
Yo, I want to look at these rules.
>> I mean, that was funny.
It says nothing about this.
>> There's nothing there about reporting.
Nothing. Zero.
>> Yo, >> that was crazy, bro. Oh, I'm sorry, Libra. It's public and it's private, right?
>> It's public sidewalk.
>> It's public and private, right? This is a public private sidewalk, right? this public and private.
Take care, buddy.
Sorry.
>> No, no, no. This is like you need you need to talk to authority media relationship relationship and they'll get you got the permission to record inside. That's what I was commercial.
That's what I was telling you.
>> I asked if it's commercial or not and then you told me after, right? So that's why I was like if you use a tripod >> that's if you're using big ancillary equipment.
>> Anyone had a tripod? So >> no, that don't count.
>> Yeah. No, that's why I came out. That's why I let it back to you guys.
>> They talk about movie theater quad like big [ __ ] >> That's what I was told. The reason why they say that I dealt with you already.
I know.
>> The reason why they say that is because people get could get hurt and they don't want you they don't want you blocking traffic.
>> First amendment rights. I'm all for it.
This is what I was just told. And >> it's the same thing with Port Authority.
It's the same thing with MTA.
>> You can't block pedestrian walkways.
That's why they don't want big camera movie equipment and a handheld. This >> No, they can't do that. You guys obviously >> that's what I was told. I let you guys know. All right. You guys have >> I spy real quick. I I spy >> I spy uh press credentials. Do you see them?
>> I was looking at that. I don't know.
>> All right.
>> Take care, ma'am.
>> And amid the explanations about permits and safety, the core truth remains the same. The right to stand in a public space and record what is happening.
Something that does not require permission to exist. Thank you for watching until the end of the video. If you see in these situations not just conflicts, but lessons about power dynamics and civic rights, feel free to leave your thoughts in the comments below. And don't forget to subscribe to the channel because confrontations like these don't just happen on the streets, they also happen in the way we understand our rights every day. See you in the next video.
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