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[00:00:01]new platform this evening. So, we've had a few teething problems hence the reason we've started a little bit later than usual, but we are here which is what matters. So, uh without further ado, I'll introduce my two colleagues as always. First of all, there's James Forest from the Celtic blog. In the middle seat this evening rather than in Joe's seat and on the far right is Joe.

[00:00:20]So, um as I've said, we have a new system that we're just trying to get used to. So, a few teething problems along the way, but should be fine going forward hopefully.

[00:00:30]Um, so we've a fairly jam-packed issue this evening. Um, we have lots to talk about and uh, lots to get through. So, first thing that we're going to touch base with is yesterday our yesterday our own game which was the day before yesterday. Obviously, we had the game at Tin Castle yesterday. So, we're going to talk about the Hibs game and how we fared in that game. Um, from my perspective, it kind of went pretty much as I expected it would. Um, it was going to be a tough game. The hips supporters decided they weren't turning up, but the HIPS players did turn up and, uh, Jamie McGrath turned up and got himself sent off for the first time in his career, which was considered a conspiracy by all of the Ibra support.

[00:01:16]Um, because he did that. uh nothing to do with the fact that it was a completely clumsy talent challenge which went in on um Alistister uh Johnston's ankle and I mean after Don Robertson had looked at it and looked at the replays he didn't really have any choice other than to bring David Dickinson over to the monitor um the game itself was a thoroughly scrappy affair um it was hard going a hard slog um and to be fair to David Gray he said that they weren't going to lie down they didn't lie Um although we know which we'll touch on later on during the uh the the podcast that goal should have been disallowed.

[00:01:55]No two ways about it. Um so look I will move on to James first since he's sitting in the middle and I'll ask him what his view of Sunday's game against Hibs was.

[00:02:08]Well, as as you say, mate, we'll get to the um the officials when the time comes for that, but I thought that we were very comfortable for the whole game. Um even when we conceded the goal, which was a again a characteristic mistake for our uh new four-year contract player, um Mr. Liam Scales.

[00:02:34]Again, we we've been we've just been careless and we've been architects of our own downfall to an extent. But even when they scored the goal, even when we went in a halftime one each, I did not at any point feel that we were going to get the points. I thought it was one of the most comfortable performances of the season, we weren't as incisive up front as we might have been, but we did not look like a team that is allegedly under all this pressure. We did not play like a team is under all this pressure.

[00:02:59]And talking about um the home support, no turning up, I thought that was one of the most shocking things I've seen in a long time in Scottish football. Um thousands of your supporters couldn't get tickets for the game and again it get played in half empty stadium. The news today at St. John got three stands next season is the best bit of common sense that I've heard for a long time.

[00:03:22]Um I I just could not believe the attendance sitting watching on the telling. My mate John said to me, "Look at that." I said, "No, there's plenty of time for it to fill up." He's like, "There's 15 minutes to go to kickoff.

[00:03:36]That ain't filling up." And he was right. It's pretty abysmal. But yeah, I thought it was a good performance. Um it was good seeing Dyson getting another goal. And um in actual just looked like he was a mentally sharper than everybody on the pitch. Was it just the fact that he scored the goal? everything he did just he looked like he was a hairy everybody in your team and in theirs and it doesn't matter if this guy only gets an hour or half an hour or whatever this guy can change a game in that time and I think Sky put up a stat they said he's got a goal every 34 minutes on the pitch so even you game half an hour you you've got to hope he keeps that average up but I would play him for the start of the weekend Maybe maybe he isn't fat.

[00:04:28]>> Yeah, might not be fat by this point.

[00:04:31]>> Yeah, that's exactly what I was going to say. You think by this stage he would be fit. Um, I mean, we're coming to the last knockins of the season, he's been getting enough run outs that you would expect that he'd be fit at this point.

[00:04:42]>> But, um, you know, there's been valid points made by yourself and by Joe and probably by myself as well that if he gets a full preseason, a full summer of training in, >> he's going to be lethal, you know, for next year if if he decides to stay on.

[00:04:57]Um, although Joe's shaking his head over there. He doesn't think the Kletchi is ever going to reach full fitness, does he? Uh look, I'll pass over to you, Joe.

[00:05:04]I mean, what what's your view on it? I mean, do you think that uh he's the guy who's going to make the difference in the running in the last three games? Um he he definitely has an eye for goal.

[00:05:13]There's you can't deny that fact. But uh at the same time, he um he's not able to run a full 90 minutes, so that's probably the big concern there, isn't it?

[00:05:22]>> Yeah. Ian Ao is never going to be a 90-minute player. Enjoy the 20 minutes, 25, 30 minutes from him. Uh on the 8th of March we were at Ibrooks in a Scottish cup tie and Joel Muka was ahead of Ian Nacho for that match. He even came on the park. Ian joined the beginning of September. There was fitness concerns at the time. His fitness doesn't appear to have improved any. It's he he seems better than the reports we're getting from Middlesbrough, but h I don't know if he's let himself go at some stage or if he's carrying an injury. H it's a guy mean if he was properly fat, he wouldn't be near us.

[00:06:04]He'd be playing in the Premiership. So, we've got damaged goods. Enjoy them.

[00:06:09]But, uh we should be hanging our hat on him. And if I don't I don't know who's going to give him a preseason, but uh he said what September to now is the best part of nine months and he doesn't seem much fitter than he was when he came on at Kar scored to penalty. So I said enjoying while we can. It was it was another grim performance as far as I was concerned. There's h where I was watching there was there wasn't much happiness around. There's no joy in watching Celtic. H it's it's a onegoal win at most weeks. H I hope there's another three onegoal wins before the season ends. But uh it's paper thin. I mean small going on about small margins a lot. We we're on the right side of small margins a lot. But h a chance 86 87 minute the guy put the side net. H that went in. Um I don't recall their goalkeeper having too many saves. We were busy around their box.

[00:07:13]There was a few decent chances put across the goalmouth. No takers, but again our wingers are non-existent. H we really need two Miadas. Mi through the middle because he's at least worse and he's the fittest and Ma on the left.

[00:07:29]Tunetki is an another one of our impact subs that there's so many players that Ianacho Forest the Ox and Tunetk aren't guys that can play 90 minutes. If they force started this Sunday we have something to worry about but coming off the bench they can worry the opposition.

[00:07:51]So it's it's it's a tough watch, but we we've been saying this. We were doom and gloom after Canada. Boy was on. He told us Matt Lane's won 15 out of 19 domestic matches. I think he's put on another four since then. So h it's to to borrow a phrase, keep believing. Yeah. And uh just hopefully the squad can hobble through, but the the team isn't playing very well. the midfield doesn't quite function. The wingers don't produce and but fortunately May is maybe one and a half players at the moment. The way he's buzzing about annoying people and his gesture towards Douglas Ross or possibly a fan in the hips end after the V decision was absolute gold. So, uh, yep.

[00:08:41]>> Yeah, small moments to light things up, but it's been the same most weeks. I predicted I think I got my score lines correct for Falcourt and Hibs 3-1 2-1 I'll I'll give you an early score line for Sunday 2-1 an exact repeat of Sunday will do me very nicely and I say if we can get three one goal victories h I think most supporters would grab that and we'll see what else happens elsewhere if we can get we can win a match by more than a goal all the better but uh that that's all it looks like for Yeah. Um it was pretty grim at points uh throughout throughout Sunday. I would have to agree with you on that. But I mean probably one of the things that stood out most about the game was the um you know the level like Hibs went down to nine or went down to 10 men. As soon as they went down to 10 men, they did start defending really well and it looked like they were going to be tough to break down and it was going to take that something special to break them down.

[00:09:47]Uh, obviously they clearly didn't um they didn't enjoy or they didn't deserve their equalizer that should not have been allowed. um which we'll touch on in our next in our next segment. But it was like I I I had that feeling in the second half that it was going to take something special to break them down and to get you know but that's you're correct in what you're saying Joe 20 minutes of Kletchi ino enjoy those 20 minutes because he will probably produce something special and he did that again he seems to just have that neck in front of goal he did it it was similar to what he did at Dundee the way he controlled the ball off his shoulder and then just tapped it in. He just has that killer instinct in front of goal which we've been lacking all season and it made a difference. The only other person that I would comment about in the game who was largely ineffective again was Nigan.

[00:10:36]He's a bit of enigma an enigma that guy.

[00:10:39]Um as I said in previous podcasts he sometimes reminds me well obviously he doesn't have the penach and the style of Matt Latizier but he's that kind of player who just drifts in and out of a game um like Latizier back did back in the day. He he he would do nothing for 80 minutes of a game and then the next thing he could score two to three spectacular goals. Um I know Nigan is not the not the same in that regard. He he gets a goal a game or two goals a game every now and then, but he was largely ineffective on Sunday. And I thought the substitutions were a bit baffling if I'm being honest in that um Luke McCoen came on and uh I was expecting the Ox should come on instead of Niger uh because he was so ineffective and that didn't happen and we didn't really get much from him throughout the whole game. Um, so I I think that uh maybe Martin he needs to probably have a little bit more steal in midfield going into the Rangers game, you know. Um, so we we'll see how that pans out. But anyway, look, we we we'll let the game uh go for now. We've there's not much else that you can really say about it which brings us on to the next segment which is the refereeing decisions which were absolutely I mean okay it started with red card Ross his eagerness to flag Da May off side which you know even >> when the lines were drawn it was pretty clear the >> the red card came before that.

[00:12:07]Oh yeah, but I'm saying I'm saying red card Ross with the I mean >> he he saw nothing. He never budged. He never moved. It was positioned.

[00:12:19]>> Yeah, of course he didn't. So I guess what I'm saying is like it started he obviously ignored that. Then he obviously tried to flag it off site. The eagerness that this guy tried to put decisions against us and pretend he didn't see anything is just off the scale. And I know James, you wrote an article on it saying it's an absolute insult to us as a club.

[00:12:41]>> That's one else. But yeah, >> was it Oh, yeah. Sorry. I just >> I agree completely. I agree completely.

[00:12:46]>> You know, >> one is an insult to have him running the line.

[00:12:51]>> It's a joke. It's a joke.

[00:12:52]>> Uh >> I mean, well, >> yeah, >> we we do something in Scotland that I think is really unusual. Um, it's that we're the only country that boasts about having the most hatefilled derby in world football, right? I mean, no, even the Argentines who probably have the most hatefilled derby in world football boast about it to the extent that we do and all this passion is supposed to be tied in and these two clubs are supposed to these fanatical supporters, right?

[00:13:20]But they're the only people who in any way act on it as the fans of these two clubs and only in the context of the games. But you can have people officiating the games who support one of the two clubs. You can have people writing about them and commentating on them in the media who are very obviously supporters of one of the two clubs. And you can have people in the governing bodies making decisions who are supporters of two clubs and in some cases have worked for one of the clubs.

[00:13:49]And that's supposed to be fair and impartial. And they're supposed to do things without um fear of favor. And it's nonsensical. It's nonsensical.

[00:13:56]Douglas Ross shouldn't be anywhere near a SE game.

[00:14:01]>> Anywhere not anywhere near it >> because even if you take away his football situation, his politics are some of the most toxic and corrosive in Scotland. And the fact he was leader of the Tory party means he's never going to be the most welcome person at Celic Park. And that February 2023 banner that the Green Brigade put up about when he was there officiating on the line and was looking right at it.

[00:14:32]I mean, I think if somebody camped across my house with a banner like that, I would probably dislike them very strongly.

[00:14:39][laughter] Even if I knew nothing else about them, I'd probably dislike them very strongly.

[00:14:44]Um, and the idea that he can ever be impartial when it comes to us is to me is absolutely insane. And we pretend not to know this stuff in Scotland. And I don't I genuinely don't understand at all. It's to me it's mad. Well, it's all I mean, you see, we're continuously accused of being conspiracy theorists, but everything like I did I did an article on the game yesterday and the refereeing aspects of the game and I tried to debunk the conspiracy theories and show that everything was factual. Um, the first conspiracy theory being that Jamie McGra got himself sent off. It was a poor tackle. End of. He got sent off for a poor tackle. That's it. He didn't like did And their take home was that it wasn't a red card but that he was trying to get himself sent off >> today and it would have been a strange kind of favor had they ended Alistister Johnson's season and possibly absolutely in a strange type of favor.

[00:15:44]>> So that's the point I was trying to make you know that that so >> Jamie McGrath thinks he's doing a Celtic by or he's doing a Celt Celtic a favor by setting out to maim Alistister Johnston.

[00:15:55]>> Yeah.

[00:15:56]>> Yeah. Where's the logic? you know, and then obviously there's there's red card Ross. We've just discussed that. I don't need to say any more on that subject.

[00:16:04]And then, which I'll go to Joe on, we have Don Robertson in the V room, makes the correct decision when it comes to Alistar Johnston and the tackle that Jamie McGar did on him and then makes an absolutely chronic decision when it came when it came to the Hibs goal. It is clear to see no matter what you and Cameron says um it's clear to see that the ball hit his arm rolled down his arm came under control in his hand and that is what allowed him to score the goal and we have Willie Colum on his VA review show saying you know when Callum McGregor had a similar incident where the ball hit the side of his arm that any time that the ball hits any part of your arm which leads to a goal scoring opportunity the goal should be disallowed and every every um person who analyzed it. I mean, when you you had Sky Sports analyzing it, the majority of people who looked at that decision said no, that goal should not have been allowed. So, Joe, I mean, would you concur with that? Is that your is that your view? It definitely should have been disallowed.

[00:17:07]>> First of all, Douglas Ross has got one very good friend inside Celtic. He's called Brian Wilson. They're better together. And for anyone in Scotland going out to vote on Thursday, think Brian Wilson before you place your votes. Think of all the lies Brian Wilson has told you as recently as last Thursday when they gave us another supporters update. So Brian Wilson and Douglas Ross are dead fellows. And there's, as I've said often enough in all these issues, don't complain to the SFA. Don't complain to the referees.

[00:17:43]This is all on the Celtic board. Celtic board encourage it. It's uh what one it's I'm count my days there. It's two two full days on since the final whistle at Easter Road and there's not been a peep out of the Celtic ward. They haven't even whispered to one of their tech reporters about how they're deeply upset and have been making noises behind the scenes about how upset they were at events at Easter Road. So there was four clear errors all went against Celtic by the officials on the park. H and apparently we should be grateful that two of them were corrected by V. So the new goal was an absolute outrage. H it'd be something laugh if Scotland lost a goal like that in the World Cup finals.

[00:18:33]It's not a chance of that happening. And then that was followed uh early in the second half when the uh Josh Campbell two-handed push over on Ne.

[00:18:46]In those situations, you see it loads of times, the defending player just positions himself between the attacker and the ball and it rolls over the line.

[00:18:55]That wasn't rolling over the line. So Campbell just decided to roll [ __ ] over the line. But I've been growing about these for a long long time. Since Steven Mlan at the Scottish Cup final, Scottish Cup semi-final in 2015, Celtic wrote to the SFA seeking clarification and nothing was ever done. That was the end of the matter. In January 2019 after a stormy game at Ibrooks when Alfredo Morelis was allowed to do whatever the hell he liked again they were were really bold. They were demanding a meeting with Maxwell and the head of refereeing which was Crawford Allen and they wanted transparency. They wanted accountability and then Peter L got invited to Hamen Biscuits a reminder of the paperwork from July 2012 and not another Pete about it. Uh John beaten gets lots of matches. John Beaton is on VAR for the game on Sunday. I expected Nick Walsh to get it. It's the rotor. He hasn't had a league match this season between the two clubs. He had the semiinal at Ham. The outrage over Austin Trusty raking his studs down Jack Butland's face while missing two very obvious penalties. Rio Hitati and a hand ball from Balik Wisha late on and there was also Camelius raking his studs down the leg of Johnny Kenny but all we heard about after that game was the trusty and Butland incident and that's because Celtic said and did nothing about it.

[00:20:33]all h by doing nothing about Sunday then Walsh and beaten though they can get up to any tricks whatsoever this coming Sunday and in the remaining games because the only guarantee is you'll get absolute silence from Celtic not a whisper of criticism or it's very annoying very frustrating but the only source of sorting this out is Celtic board taking some action not statements or updates taking some action. Get in FIFA observers, get somebody else to review the V, anything like that. I mean, it was a bit of a World Card Alan McDonald, but one thing he did do was the Hugh Dallas shame game. He got some behavioral psychologist to look at that and there was things in Hugh Dallas's performance that were highlighted, but we'll get absolutely nothing. Somebody sent me the the statement selfies made after Duke McDonald sent off Scott Brown for an in Kyle Laferty and even even since then I think that was 2000 2009 or 2010 in the last 16 17 years have been complete cowards and if you're cowards it encourages more of the same. So that's we've got Walsh and beaten this coming Sunday. There's two more fixtures to come. There's not a competent referee in Scotland. You all know the system. You all know the desired decisions and they'll keep on doing that and they'll keep on getting the matches. I think Willie Colum's about to finish his third year as head of refereeing. I've not noticed anyone getting demoted. Kevin Clansancy doesn't get the Glasgow Derby.

[00:22:20]That's the only slight thing I can see, but he's still prominent. So, direct your anger towards the Celtic board and on Thursday, think Brian Wilson when you go to the bowling station.

[00:22:34]>> Yep. Fact. [snorts] Um, yeah. I mean, look, it I I don't think what happened Sunday is anything less than we expected to happen. Um, but that was the thing about the game. It was fine margins. It was very close. And this is the issue like we've probably discussed it in the past before where we said that if games were easily, you know, we're easily winning them and it's three to four nil, we don't have to worry about the refereeing decisions.

[00:22:59]But when it's close games like it was against Hibs, we have to fear the refereeing decisions all the time. And it could have been a completely different outcome on Sunday um if we hadn't got our second goal. We could have dropped points and ended up with a draw. We just needed that moment of magic which we touched on earlier on from Mihinacho. So it's um yeah, it's going to be a tough one on Sunday again I would say with Chuck beaten in the V room. Um he's going to try and ensure that nothing goes our way. He wasn't really able to influence the game last night at time castle in any way. Um, so I think that's what we have to focus on is again trying to play again, which is easier said than done in a Glasgow derby uh to to to not influence the referees.

[00:23:45]But look, we'll leave it there. There's it's it's nothing that we didn't expect um on Sunday or on on you know against kids. Um the next subject that I'm going to move on to, I have it from a fairly reliable source. uh somebody you know I can't I can't reveal my source but I have it from a fairly reliable source that Yensportasco is going to be our next manager.

[00:24:10]Now there's a lot a lot of mixed feelings about that particular subject. It's not one that I would be very enthused about and we've clearly not been very enthused about it on this show. Um, the only positive that I could probably take about take from it is if he set his teams up like he set the Motherwell team up, it' be exciting to watch. Uh, that's probably about the only positive that I could take from this. His lack of experience if he gets the job could be a serious issue. Um, but it's where there's a bit of a conundrum arising here in that Motherwell will have a say on the destination of this title. There's no doubt about that. There's two critical games coming up at Fur Park. First one is on Saturday evening at 8:00 when Harts take them on at Fur Park and I reckon that's going to be a pretty tough game for them as well. But then we go there the following Wednesday and for us depending on what happens in Saturday night and depending on what happens on Sunday we could be in a position to win or put ourselves in a very very strong position to win the league if results go our way if they drop points.

[00:25:27]But the conundrum that I am kind of talking about here is it's very similar to the Scott Brown scenario back in 2005. Um, what happens and I I don't want to jinx it by saying it, but what happens if Motherwell us to lose the title and then Berto Lasco is made our manager?

[00:25:49]How is that going to How is that going to go down with an already completely out of favor board if they persist with this and decide to take on Berlescu and he gets the job? But his team would have been the one that caused us to lose the title again like 2005. Now to be fair, Scott McDonald was the man who scored the winner against us back then and he was fairly welcomed with you know he was welcomed with open arms from the most of the Celtics supporters when he came to Celtic Park and he was the I suppose he was the guy who really brought it back for us in 2008 when we looked miles away and out of it completely. So he's remembered fondly at Celtic Park in what he contributed in his time there. But I'll go to Joe first on this one. Um what's what what's your view on this? I mean, if if just if that scenario happened and Motherwell were the cause of us dropping this title, how is it going to be received if the if the board pushed forward and brought in Berthasu, then? I think that scenario is a bit far-fetched, but genuinely, I've get very little interest and enthusiasm on who's becoming this next Celtic manager.

[00:26:55]It doesn't matter if it's Robbie Keane, Asco, Roberto Martinez. You can assess them and their style of play, their tactics and their players and blah blah blah. But as long as Dmond and Michael Nicholson are at Celtic, h Manager's got all arms tied behind his back and his legs chopped off. Um, Celtic under these circumstances, Celtic require a massive character. someone like An Postto or Brendan Rogers and there's not very many of them around. So, it needs somebody to come in that's pigheaded, somebody that's on a mission, get something to prove and Ascu is a very promising coach. I think he could go quite far in his career. His next move will be very important. He's made a big stamp at Mother Wool. I don't think anyone outside of Scotland's taking note of Mother will but his agent will be getting in touch with clubs and putting his name in front of clubs in front of CEOs. But I said it doesn't bother me. I'm not pining all [clears throat] my hopes in one person or the other and hoping that this one gets it and dreading the other one getting it. While Nicholson and Dmond are calling the shots at Celtic, the club is doomed. There's more transfer windows like the last couple. H Brendan Rogers managed to get force his way of two transfer windows after the M stitch up in the summer of 2023. But uh I've no great if Celtic don't win the league this season it won't be because of a game against Mother H at first half. If we lose that game it will be defeat number nine. Uh, so I I I don't want it too heavily like I can't remember the points tally back in 2005, but I suspect it was probably around about 90 points. H this season we might climb up to 80. So I I don't put much thought into that. I just uh I'm I'm more interested in finding out that Dere Mc Desmond has decided to move on and concentrate his golf handicap and that some other mugs have found a job for Michael Nicholson because who whether it's A, B, C, D or Zed coming in the Celtic manager, they're facing the same miserable challenge and no one of any credibility come in near the >> Yeah. Um, can I direct you with that, Joe? Uh James, you've been fairly outspoken in your what would you say your your lack of wanting ASCU at uh Celtic Park because I mean you rightly said a few episodes back that like this guy was coming from having managed in the fair oils and it's again I suppose there's the flip side of it. if we do win the title and they do appoint this guy and then we have to go into Champions League Champions League qualifiers, Asco has no experience of games like that like that's going to be completely new to him. Um, so it's it's um you're putting an awful lot of risk into an area where we have crashed and burned pretty badly last season or this season still that's going but that we say the last Champions League qualifiers. Um we crashed pretty crashed and burned pretty badly in that and then you're putting a very inexperienced coach in to take us into a qualifier if we do win the league. And that's that's a big risk to take I think. Um, but would you be of the same opinion as Joe in that at this point in time it doesn't really bother you because you just don't see like Joe has said um anybody of any great magnitude being brought in anyway?

[00:30:57]>> Well, there are there are two possible scenarios, right? Um, and none of them is very good as far as I can tell. Um the first is that we are victims of a massive deception and that Martin Neil's already decided to stay and he's already been told that he will be the manager next season and that's why we're busily scouting players and try to sign various footballers from um other SPFL clubs. So either we're the victims of a massive deception, decisions already been made or we talking to people and agents and scouting players before we know who's going to be the manager. And that in itself means that we have not earned a single damn thing from any of what's happened this season or last season or Brendan's first season back.

[00:31:49]It just seems that we're determined to repeat all the same mistakes that we already have. Um because you're assembling a team before the manager's in the building or you're making plans to assemble a team before he's in the building. We've g contracts to players on the basis that the ne the next manager will enjoy working with these guys. Well, I don't know how anybody knows that for a fact unless we know who the next manager is already and he's confirmed that it it just seems to me that we are going down a very bad road no matter which option is correct. If it's ask God help us right, we will regret that.

[00:32:24]And I don't even have the first doubt that we will regret that. Paulina actually wrote the best piece on this.

[00:32:30]She did the deep deep dive. Um because she did a she emailed me and said to me, "Do you realize that his record at the start with mother is worse than what we sacked Wilfred Nons?" And I was like, "No, I did not know that." And it's true. He won the one of his first nine league games. But in mother, you can get away with that. There's no pressure on you at Mother. I read a mother player saying that when he came in and changed the system and the way the team play, they were all baffled. I think one of them was talking about a game that they played in the League Cup where they won one nil against a lower league team. And he said, "None of us could work out what the hell we were supposed to be doing that night." And that sounds so painfully familiar, right? He won't get an adjustment period at Mother like he at Celic like he did at Mother and he needs to hit the ground running because there'll be a lot of doubt straight away and not only did he know when if they only win one of his first nine league games, but the longest winning run that guy's been on this season is three games.

[00:33:36]Three games. Now I've asked people repeatedly what the selling point of this guy is and they tell me hut Barney he's done well with mother well they're fourth in the league so maybe that is a decent result for mother but it's still no it does he scream Celtic manager at you I mean is that what it takes to being fourth in the league um they play the best attacking football fitball in Scotland great they've scored less goals in Celich and we are forever moaning about how bad our attacking options are and how bad our attacking football is and a team that has scored less goals than Celtic seems to be the one that we're scouting for next season's forward line. You tell me that that makes any sense, right? I mean, none of this makes any sense. There's no argument in favor of this that I can find and and and once the other week said um they presented it as the case for asku as an excelic manager and I thought great somebody's going to try and sell me this because you know I I'm I'm no close-minded about this idea if there's merit to tell me where it is and I hope that the article was going to tell me where it is and what it offered was that he's bested Danny Oh, on a couple of occasions I thought, well, there's a lot of managers in the league who've done that.

[00:34:57]Um, including Martin O'Neal, who he said three goals against, no beat yet. Um, I'm not seeing it. Whatever the argument is, I'm not seeing it. Anybody's presented a coherent one that makes any sense to me. And the idea that we might go and appoint that guy on the basis of wisps and vapors, it scares Jesus with me because it means that we don't have any imagination at all. And there's any ambition beyond the here and now for the club. They are just looking for short-term fixes and easy solutions. And it doesn't even matter if they're the right solutions as long as you can get something quick and say, "Oh, look, we've appointed Scottish football's best up and coming manager."

[00:35:37]There's no evidence that that is true.

[00:35:41]>> Yep. Um they're pretty damning statistics there, James, that you've given. Uh now I know, look, I said last week that himself and John Mclin are the two standout managers this season and they are when you consider the constraints that both of those guys work with him. um they have achieved they've overachieved um in terms of like if you look at what we said last week the budget that uh Berto spent at Motherwell he brought in 13 players for 258 grand um that's seriously good um scouting of players he's brought in Elijah just who's the young player of the year in Scotland now so there has there's there's merit in what he's done in terms of the players that he's brought in um And like he he has done a very good job at Motherwell with a shoestring budget and that can't be denied. But as you've said and as you've made quite clear there is a huge gulf in difference and class between being a motherwell manager and being a Celtic manager and the expectancy levels that comes with being a Celtic manager. So and as we've seen in the past it makes or breaks a manager. It broke Wilfried Nancy very quickly.

[00:36:59]In the past, it broke Tony Mo. Um, it also in the end broke Neil Lennon. So, we know what what the pressures are like at Celtic. Uh and for somebody to think that they can take them on with the level experience or for our board to even contemplate that somebody of that level could take a job of the magnitude of the Celtic job on is to me that that beggars belief.

[00:37:29]>> People have definitely contemplated.

[00:37:31]That's a fact. I mean that is an absolute fact. Well, if they contemp contemplated, >> if they contemplated bringing Will Nancy and what that ended up like if things go fair shape this season, the big area that will be looked back upon is the time that Wilfried Nancy was at the club. Because if Wilfried Nancy had not been at the club and Martin O'Neal was retained and look there's no point in crying over spilled milk, hindsight is a fool's version of foresight. We all know that, right? But just if Martin O'Neal had been in charge for that for the League Cup final and the games afterwards that Nancy was involved in, we wouldn't be in this position. We'd be going for a treble.

[00:38:18]The league would probably be wrapped up already. And there are people who are responsible for that. Yeah, >> there are people who are responsible for that [ __ ] and they are still in the building and they have accepted no responsibility for it.

[00:38:30]>> No.

[00:38:30]>> And that's that's the issue here. That's what pisses people off. We can still win this. Yes, absolutely. But if we don't, everything goes back to that as we say the Nancy Interign that period of time where Wilfried Nancy was at the club completely destroyed our chances of winning the league if we don't win it.

[00:38:53]Um and there's nothing can be said that will change that in anybody's view. That is the reason that if we don't win this league, that is the reason we haven't won it. Um >> well, January is also a factor. I mean, all we had to do in January was go and sign one good striker and one decent right side attacking midfielder. And I don't even want to talk about that. It's depressing. But they did nothing. They did nothing. They they hamstrung Brendon Rogers and then they did nothing to help Martin O'Neal. And this is going to be decided on the thinnest of margins. It could be decided by a goal or two goals.

[00:39:29]And you're not going to tell me that we couldn't go and get a player who was capable of scoring two goals. We just chose not to bother. I don't know what the hell they're playing it. But the idea that the idea the people responsible for that >> should still be in post when the new season starts is ludicrous.

[00:39:49]>> The new definition of self-sabotage in the Oxford dictionary should be Celtic and the Celtic.

[00:39:53]>> It should be of course it should be, >> you know, because it's it's it's the it's the best example you'll ever see.

[00:40:00]Um, so look, we we'll move on from that subject because I think it's a subject that winds us up too much as well.

[00:40:06][laughter] We get pretty pissed off talking about it. Um, and we'll move to last last night's game at Time Castle.

[00:40:12]Now, obviously the reason we're talking about this is because it has it has a big bearing on the destination of the title. Um, we had hoped for a draw. Um, in the first half, the Ibro side came out fighting. They gave um Harts a very good game in the first half. Pegged them back, got their goal. And this is the thing about any roll side. They're like checking and height.

[00:40:38]they disappeared, retreated into their shells in the second half, just didn't didn't show up. Um, we've seen that from Celtic a few times this season as well.

[00:40:47]Can't be denied. Um, but they did not look like a team who wanted to fight for that title and that was their last chance to lose.

[00:40:58]Um, the five cup finals that Danny R talked about, he's lost two of them already. And there was one time when you'd expect them to fight when it was at 2-1 you would have expected them to fight. They couldn't put a coherent phase of play together after mother or after hearts got I don't know why I keep saying mother well after hearts because they mother well on the brain but um after hearts got their second goal. They they couldn't put a coherent phase of play together to to actually you know create any chances. Um so it just seems to be that at this stage of the season they wilt under the pressure and they have wilted under the pressure at every point um when they have even come close to winning the title in the last decade. This is the point where they collapse and they've just done it again. Um, I said it last week that Captain Disappointed jinxed himself by doing what he did and that that jinxed therefore jinxed them.

[00:41:59]Um, Guans jinxed them a long time ago as we know um by calling them his title favorites. Once that once that once they got that moniker, they were screwed. Absolutely screwed.

[00:42:10]Um, so Joe, I mean it's in heart like the destination that like hearts hearts are controlling their own destiny now as well just as just as we are. And it boils down to goal difference. There's a five goal difference between us and them. We're not scoring at a rate where we could probably close that. So we have to hope they drop points against mother well at for a park next Saturday night. Do you believe that that's do you think it's going to go down to the wire and goal difference? What's your view on it?

[00:42:44]>> It's game to game. I mean on by 2:00 on Sunday we could be level or six points behind. So projecting forward three rounds of fixtures is h the bookies will love you if you want to go in and put a bet on the the outcome of the three remaining fixtures for any of those sides. So everything's wide open. H it was great to see uh that mob capitulate last night. It was all they were competent in the first half. Hearts were utterly horrific in the first half.

[00:43:17]H they could barely string two passes together. Sometimes the balls get past the players and they couldn't stand up.

[00:43:23]I hope that's the hearts that we see at Celtic Park on May the 16th. And if that if hearts turn up in that shape, h I would even this h sugarly Celtic team, this uh inconsistent Celtic side, given 90 minutes, if they need to beat Harts 2 nothing to win the league, I think they could do it on that day. H if it's more than two, you're pushing it by a two goal two goal win for SE is us. This is some basic arithmetic here. That's plus two for us. That's minus two for them.

[00:44:00]So that's a four goal swing. So I would rather it didn't have to come down to that. But h if it comes to that, I'll take it. But it was great seeing them given us their fans some hope, some expectation, and then utterly welt in the second half. That was fantastic. So about two minutes in, you could tell Harts had decided we better try and do something here. Maybe Haps thought they could get by with nothing each. and then go get hopefully get one of their famous one-0il home victories late on. But H Hearts played well for about 20 minutes last night and that was good enough and it was great to see captain disappointed involved in two goals. H Super Jack Butland wasn't too clever either for them. H they've got a 25 or a 35 million pound central defender. They've got a 25 million pound midfielder that half the English Premier League's chasing but after the World Cup success for Belgium coming up it'll be out of price range for them. So brilliant to see them fall in their face but h we have to follow it up. H we must make them suffer on Sunday. H compound it. He's had five cup finals so far this five cup finals in the last couple of weeks. He's lost two out of two. If it can be three out of three, that will be fantastic. But I still I I can't project further forward.

[00:45:26]H it's all about this game on Sunday for us. Mother are well capable of beating hearts on Saturday night. H M were a bit of a funny team. I think it's only one win and seven, but that one win and seven was at Ibrooks. They followed that up with losing at Falcup. I think it's three defeats and a draw to Falcup. But uh Mull with a three each draw with hearts at 10 Castle, a nothing each draw at home with them. They lost 3-1 and it was h it was 2-1 in the 8 it was one each in the 86th minute before B and that wimp Matthew McD decided to give Hearts a penalty.

[00:46:07]I think M were six ahead of Hibs just now. If mother will Hibs might blow it on Saturday afternoon I think they're away at Volk but a mother will win would put them well clear of Hibs and give them fourth place which James doesn't quite rate so highly but h if if Mull will finish above Hibs Aberdine and Dundee United. It's a decent achievement. It's not the Celtic management achievement but it's a decent achievement. They're playing good football. I think all the players at Motherwart are possibly having the best career of their seasons and that's forced Andy Halliday into the sports sound studio. [laughter] I don't think there's anyone at Celtic that's having the best career of their season. So Asco has a lot going for him. He's not yet Celtic management material. If he wasn't operating under a door under a on our doorstep, then Michael Nicholson would have the faintest idea who he is, just like Wilfred Nancy until Paul Pisdale whispered his name into his ear. So that it's all to play for. I can't look further forward. Give me a draw on Saturday night for Paco shoot me perfectly well. I follow that up the Celtic win. If can win, all the better.

[00:47:21]But, uh, it's game by game and anyone throwing money at the bookies, send it to me. I'll take your money off you.

[00:47:29]I'll give you double the odds of bookies you've got for anyone wanting to predict the outcome of the last three matches.

[00:47:35]>> No way.

[00:47:38]>> Okay. Good stuff, Joe. James, your view on the game last night? Did you feel um it played out pretty much as you expected? Uh, obviously, as I said, we were hoping for the draw. That didn't happen. Um but Joe made a valid point there. He said like I mean Hurst didn't look like a team who wanted to win the league in the first half. Um and for 20 minutes in the second half they played well and they got the goals. But look it seems to be the tale of Hart's entire season. It's just narrow wins, narrow wins, wins. And um they but they they're grinding them out and they're they're getting the results when they matter and they are showing the former champions, but there still as Joe said, you you have to take it on a game byame basis.

[00:48:22]There is still three big games left. Um and he's right. Motherwell on their day would could beat Hearts, I reckon. Um potentially they I'll put it this way to you, right?

[00:48:36]Before you comment on the game, I'll just put a question to you to kind of finish it with as well. Um, I think what happens on Saturday evening, if if the Motherwell game ends up with hearts dropping points, would you see a more determined Ibro side at Celtic Park then on the Sunday? Um, what's your view?

[00:49:02]It doesn't matter which um it doesn't matter how determined they are. You've got a manager or there who's talked about five cup finals as Joe said and they've lost the first two of them.

[00:49:12]They've nothing to play for. The the the consolation of stopping us winning the title is it's not going to motivate the players if they couldn't get motivated to win the title for themselves. They're not going to be motivated to stop us from doing it.

[00:49:27]I has become one of those clubs now. Um, it's funny cuz I when I first read The Secret Football, there is a section in it where he talks about the State State England International who was dating the 15y old or something, ended up in jail. Andy, whatever his name is. Anyway, right. Um, >> Adam Johnson of >> Adam Johnson. Adam Johnson, the secret footballer. Paul, I think Paul Kitson's a secret football, I think he outed himself last year. He said that when he heard that story that a prem a top Premier League player and England international was going to be in the news for that. He said, "I could have picked the club.

[00:50:16]The only thing is that I would have struggled with the name of the player because so many players at that club were capable of something like that." He says, "But I would have nailed it. I would have got the club first time." He says because Sunderland at that point was like a big holiday camp for footballers who wanted to earn a Premier League salary but not put in the effort.

[00:50:38]And there's a lot of clubs that get like that. It's like Spurs.

[00:50:42]Um Spurs don't hire winning managers and players who expect to win and want to win and want trophies don't go to Spurs because they don't have any history and they don't have any record yet. Um, and Ibrooks is becoming one of the places. It's become one of the places that attracts players who don't have a winning mentality. It's they're they're getting offered life-changing money to go on basically on what is an extended holiday or stag and they go up there for a while. They make their cash and off they go. I mean, James Tavia probably can't believe his luck. This is an middle of the road defender. no good defender by any stretch of the imagination. F is a great one who has two talents. He can hit a good free kick and he gets a lot of practice at penalties. Um especially up here. Um but as as a top class player, he never was and he never will be. And for a long time, in fact almost for the day he signed for them, he's been the highest paid player in Scotland other than Callum McGregor.

[00:51:48]And that's the kind of people that they attract now. guys who go there for life-changing money, but guys who the experience of winning things and don't tend to win things and they wonder why the mentality is r because the whole club mentality is wrong. They've got a victim complex for a start which never helps you become winners. They believe they they've created the grand conspiracy the unseen fing swollen it to such huge size that they're terrified here. They don't believe that I mean I don't know how many times I've read on their forums we won't be allowed to win right there you're beat the second you start thinking in their terms you've already lost right and the whole club is steeped in that now and so I don't think it matters which version of them turns up at Celic Park if we turn up we'll beat them and the curiosity is that having said that as no good enough to be Celtic manager and that mother's record's no brilliant this is the game the hearts will worry about this is the one here at the weekend on Saturday. And I think they could do us a favor cuz the record against Harts is excellent. Same as the record against Ibro is excellent.

[00:52:52]The record against us is also pretty good. Um and we need to be on our toes to go there. But if we're going to get done a favor, it will be Mother War. Um because I watched the Hearts team last night and in the first half I watched him in Wman and he said to me like 10 minutes out of the game, they've not shown up tonight. Hats are playing at home in a potential championship winning season and they've not shown up. Where is the aggression? Where's the pressing people at the park? Where is the running after every ball? They're not doing any of that, right? And they went in half one. They came out in the second half and they started doing everything. They expected them to at the start of the game and they won comfortably. I mean, easily.

[00:53:35]And the thing is that a lot of people have drew the wrong conclusion fate and said, "Oh, you know, our hearts were excellent to mount the comeback and all that."

[00:53:44]Well, if they have started the game like that, they wouldn't have needed the comeback cuz I the Ibrooks team is dreadful to watch. I mean, Faulk scored three against them. Mother scored three against them. I think Livingston have scored a couple against them um in their previous fix. I mean, if you attack that team and you put them under pressure, they fold all the time. the collapse and R is a terrible manager. I mean, he's got one foot in the grave already and we all know this is true. I've just been I put up a piece of net about this.

[00:54:14]They're in the situation that our two main political parties are in. Terrible leaders. Neither the two of them knows how to get rid of them. But they do know that these guys are leading them to disaster and N seems to know how to avert it. And the situation that I is in now is what do you do? If you stick with the guy, you'll be sacking him by October. You know that it's a fact. But you can't sack him just now because it looks like he's knowing a chance. You sack him just now. The whole club looks like a basket case organization, even more so than it already is. And so you've got to stick with them for a wee bit longer and maybe game the summer, but the road leads to inevitable disaster what every day. So it's a bad position for them to be in.

[00:54:56]We're in a bad spot. We're not in great shakes, but they're in a really really really bad place. If they finish third, all bets are off. They're in all sorts of trouble. But I don't think I think the Hart's myth right almost got exterminated completely last night because if I would have got a result last night >> then I mean their fans their fans knew full well that the two best outcomes were that they win or the hearts win because the draw would have been a catastrophic result for them and they know it and and I'm very sure that when they were pressing for the equalizer late in the game most Ibros fans did not want them to get it um because It does not help them and it only would have helped us.

[00:55:38]But Hibs played with nine men for most of the game and Hart scored late. They as you said mate they got late goals against Mother Wall. I think the stat last night was that they've came back for behind 18 times or 19 times this season right in any other scenario that's called pushing your luck and it will run out and I still think it will run out and there's only two games left for it to run out but I still believe it. It's it's going to come down to what we do.

[00:56:05]We we win our three games, we'll be champions, >> but I don't The heart's myth still doesn't convince me.

[00:56:12]>> I'll tell you what, if they win it, I'll be able to live with it because if they are good enough to put together the run and get through these games, they'll deserve it.

[00:56:20]>> Yeah.

[00:56:21]>> And we'll get what we deserve and all.

[00:56:23]>> Well, as Morph said on Rangers Radio last night, uh we we've got nothing left bar the sash.

[00:56:30]Now, [laughter] that was I thought that was a great line. But, uh, which which brings me nicely along to, uh, Sunday. So, we'll finish up on that subject. We we'll have a quick chat about Sunday and we'll have, um, we'll have our predictions for the day. Um, >> maybe one before then.

[00:56:50]>> Oh, yes. You wanted to drop that in, James. But we just bear bear in mind time. Obviously, yes. the the the moving of the boys over to uh just above the Green Brigade without consulting with them at all. Yeah, that I mean that's it's it's not even so much that we didn't consult them. We didn't consult the fans >> who sat in the Green Brigade section right now who are going to get tougher.

[00:57:16]I mean the club's brilliant at this and you you know what makes it amazing is about two nights before they announced this and they sent out the season ticket renewal forms you had Brian Wilson make one of the most dishonest statements that has came out of Brian Wilson's mouth which is saying quite a lot when he said that um they had consulted fans that they had spent weeks consulting fans on various issues, right? And obviously my first question was to the collective and like were we involved in these consultations? No. Apparently they went the member organizations who signed the open letter and none of them had been consulted either. So whatever consult consultation took place, it didn't take place with any organized fan group that we're aware of. It didn't take place with fan media because I know at least one fan media outlet reached out to the club and offered to mediate the fan media situation and were totally rebuffed by Brian Wilson. So, I don't know who he claims to have spoke to, right? But he made the claim. He made the claim anyway. And then, of course, a couple of days later, people get their season ticket renewal forms through the door and the boys find out that they're getting removed for their section and put. They don't even know where yet. And the green brigade section, the the north curve, a lot of the people who've been sitting in there for years are also getting turfed out their seats. And nobody was asked about it and nobody was told that this might happen. And there was an epic sat down any organization and a discussion about it. I just someday Celic Park just decided that this was how it was going to be done and it's either you know it's either buy your season ticket and accept it or not.

[00:59:00]That's it. [laughter] I mean, it's this these people could get a master class and how to piss off your customer base and how to ignore them and no listen to a single word they say.

[00:59:11]>> I mean, they really could. It's it's almost jaw-dropping. I mean, see, if you're a night uh if you're a Adidas executive right now, right, looking at your sales figures for Celic and wondering why they're 60% down or whatever it is for the last year, you would be a gasast at the messes people have made, the customer relations and everything. You'd be a ghast. How is this possible? How can you have pissed off and during a period of success? How can you pissed off your customers to this extent? This is how [laughter] this is right here. This is how >> and this is just one in this one example.

[00:59:49]>> I'll jump in with one point. H at the minutes of the meeting on February the 18th, former Labour MP Brian Wilson promised the collective they'll have another meeting within a month. So that was in February the 18th. It looks to me as if we're into the 5th of Feb, fifth of Feb, 5th of May. And I don't think Brian will Steven Balls replied to emails from the collective. So there's Brian Unity Wilson for you.

[01:00:15]>> Yeah.

[01:00:16]>> Yeah. Absolutely. Okay. Um we we we'll finish up as I said on thanks for that James and we'll finish up on um our just a little a little chat on the game on Sunday. Um it's my personal view that a hiding of these this mob is long overdue. Right.

[01:00:38]Now you're going to have If they thought the atmosphere at Time Castle last night was uh boisterous, I wouldn't, you know, I mean, it didn't really impress me. I expected it to be more boisterous than it was. Uh it was very quiet in the first half anyway for obvious reasons.

[01:00:53]Um I would say it will move up several more decibbels at Selty Park on Sunday and we saw how they capitulated under that. Um, I would imagine we're going to have a seriously seriously intense atmosphere on Sunday and there's a lot of those players in that Ibro side who are not up for that kind of intensity.

[01:01:14]And if now is the time, I believe, to to capitulate or to to cause them to capitulate in such a way that we, you know, we we annihilate them. It's it's a long long time since we've steamrolled them and I think this would be the perfect opportunity to steamroll them.

[01:01:30]But I'll go to Joe on this one first. Do we have it in us to steamroll them? And I don't think you're going to say we do.

[01:01:36][laughter] >> Not remotely. H we we couldn't steamroller anyone. H Livingston get relegated at the weekend. We beat them 2-1 with a last minute goal from a debut tent that hadn't played all season. So uh dream on. H hopefully it happens. But I suspect you'll be waiting. The first gate first derby of next season will be at Celtic Park and I suspect you might pretend the same thing then. I suspect we'll have a a tortured 2-1 victory on Sunday if they send that was murder. How did we get away with it? H why did we not give him a hammer? But thank God we won. And that that's us still in the hunt with two games to go. So yeah, there was a a few three nothings and four nothings with an uh I think Brendan had a >> Brendan had a three nothing uh win when uh Nicholas [ __ ] was on forum at that time.

[01:02:34]Engles Engles was making his debut.

[01:02:37]Trusty was on the bench and Macau came on. That was the last time I think that might have been our last league one against them.

[01:02:46]I'd love it to happen, but I know it's I'm not building my hopes up. I tortured to one seven minutes of stoppage time.

[01:02:54]Uh, and God knows what else. So, uh, I'll I'll pass I'll I'll pass the glass of optimism over to James.

[01:03:03][laughter] Go for it, James.

[01:03:05]>> Um, mate, you're right. Um it's been uh September 2014 I think since we beaten them in a >> 24 um and and we'll do it. No, we do it right. We are due Gon and I really genuinely believe we are due. Um, and if this is neative, if if we can beat this version of them comfortably, then I I I wonder what kind of rebuild it will take in the summer before we can do it because they look psychologically done.

[01:03:37]I mean, they they are on their chin strap. I mean, as I say, Harts didn't even need to improve that much in the second half yesterday. Comfortably swap them aside. Um, they only had to up their game by 10%. They came in, they came in in the second half, they pressed a wee bit higher up the pitch and they capitulated easily. Um, and I keep thinking about the penalty shoot and I and I watched about 100 times. Um, so I think the D scores for them and I think the other one is um the the the Serbian of the Croian which is named Pis Wide left.

[01:04:16]Um >> that's no no the no that he's been there for a while. He's been here for about four years and he's basically no kicked his >> ass I think it was >> correct me ask him right so >> should have saved those two >> yes they should have right that's what I was going to say now they're the only two that score right they're the only two score and and Barami are the only two that scored penalties um and Salo almost gets both of them but they two have not they two don't feel any pressure because they two are just as they're examples what I was talking about earlier guys who are just there on an extended holiday. They're getting life-changing money to play there and they don't care. So, they they put the ball in the net. Right. Casama's miss was horrendous. He looked like a guy who had never played fitball before, let alone never took a penalty. And Tavanir just looked dubbed before he even hit it. I mean, you could tell walking to take it that he did not want to do it. He did not fancy it. And I think if you look at the way the the whole body language for that penalty shoot it was a I mean I think it was was it Paul Ren that published the picture all the players standing in the the row with their arms where in the line with their M each other or one team unified and all their players were all sitting in the grunt and all stoning re isolated pockets watching it. I mean, it's there's nothing there's any team cohesion or any in there. And so, if we're going to do it, this will be the day. This will be the day to do it. Um, and depending on the result the night before, we might go into that game knowing that we've got a great opportunity in front of us. And if we smash them, then we could be champions by Wednesday night.

[01:05:58]Um >> yeah, >> you know, it's it's it's all it's all weighed out for as ginham and absolute down because their team is completely psychologically gubbed.

[01:06:08]>> Yeah.

[01:06:08]>> And and the idea and as I say, the press is going to make a big thing about this all week and this is their chance to stop Celich and they're they could be what stands between Celic and the title and all that. Well, you know, if they can't even motivate themselves to play to win the title theselves, they're no going to motivate themselves to stop us for no chance. Yeah, >> they're there for the taking.

[01:06:28]>> I would agree with you on that, James. I mean, I feel they're there for the taking. That's kind of why I brought this up. And part of it is like, you know, if let's just say their hearts win at Mother Well, they know they know they have absolutely nothing to play for. And I mean, I think that's probably not a good thing for us because the shackles are off then. They don't care. They'll come out and [ __ ] fight when there's nothing to fight for because they seem to be brilliant. They seem to be brilliant at that. You know how many dead dead robbers in the past few seasons have they played against us where they've played out of their skin? They did it against an when they beat us 3-0 and they did it you remember the difference there is that we didn't have anything to play for.

[01:07:05]>> Yeah.

[01:07:05]>> Because we were already champions.

[01:07:06]>> We were already champions. But like the the point I'm making is that if hearts drop points on Saturday night, I think that where that's like you've said, that's the perfect opportunity for us to absolutely come out with all guns blazing and tear them apart. And if we're not motivated to do that, then there's something radically wrong. Um, you know, because it's going to put us in a position where we can close that goal difference gap, which we need to do. I I would I would really like to be heading into the final game against Harts where we have you know that it's writing as Joe said on one or two goals is the difference you know because >> it be good to go into the hearts game winner takes it all.

[01:07:46]>> Yeah it would absolutely that would be a fantastic finish to the season. It' be a fantastic way to finish it off. So look I I feel I feel we have a hiding in us.

[01:07:55]I'm being optimistic and I think we can do it. So I'm going to go I'm going to start with my prediction because we're going to finish up with our predictions.

[01:08:01]I'm going to say we're going to beat them 3-0. James, >> I like sounding. I think that's about right, >> Joe.

[01:08:07]>> Two-1.

[01:08:08]>> Two-1.

[01:08:10]Glass half full as always. Um, well, look guys, it's been a great show. Uh, we I'll just tell our our uh viewers that we're working off our new system at the moment. There was a few teething problems tonight. Um, but the usual story, if you like what we do, like and subscribe. Um we'll be back again next week on Monday evening hopefully celebrating a good hiding of the ibro side. Um what we hope to achieve in that game I definitely think is achievable. So [laughter] um I definitely think we can do it. So I'm going to be optimistic about it. I'm not going to be in last half full man on this one even though I have been kind of pessimistic in my predictions up to this point. So um but yeah it's been a good one guys. Um we will uh touch base again next Monday night and hopefully we'll be celebrating a good hiding of the Ibro side. So look can I point out one thing to one hour comments guys. He said that he's asked how we can expect to outscore them um and still win this title um when we are having trouble scoring goals.

[01:09:16]Don't know many times I need to say this guys. We have scored two more goals than hearts this season. the side top of the league and who the media is praising every day for the potency of their strike force. We have scored two more goals than them.

[01:09:33]It's a good point. So, we'll finish on that note and we'll see you back here next Monday evening and as I said, hopefully we'll be celebrating the hiding of the Iberite. Talk then, guys.

[01:09:42]Take it easy.