‘Hacks’ Co-Creator Lucia Aniello on Why Deborah & Ava Finally Share the Frame

Added: 2026-06-03

[00:00:00]The way that it evolved into season 5 was just the idea of wanting to keep them in frame together more.

[00:00:06]Because so often in the first bunch of seasons, we would often have them as you mentioned earlier that I would say kind of like in a western across from each other budding heads and they have obviously grown closer as people but that it you can see like so often that when they're in agreement we do have them in the frame together. So like for example the very last frames, the ones in Paris and then again in Las Vegas has them the two of them in the in the shots.