S21: Ep.224- Does a woman's physical attractiveness affect her behavior and potential for status?

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[00:02:12]>> We'll shorten it probably from now on, you know, cuz it is a lot.

[00:02:18]>> Um, season 21, episode 224.

[00:02:23]Does a woman's level of physical attractiveness affect her behavior and potential for status? We have a caller on the line. Hello.

[00:02:36]Yes, sir.

[00:02:37]>> Good. Good. Good.

[00:02:38]>> How you doing?

[00:02:40]>> Good, brother. How you doing?

[00:02:41]>> Good. Good. Sir Ink's been on the show prior.

[00:02:45]>> Mhm.

[00:02:46]>> So, he knows how this goes. Did you hear the topic or do you want me to reiterate?

[00:02:53]>> No, no, no. I heard the topic. I heard the topic.

[00:02:56]>> All right. So, first of all, before we get into the bullet points, what do you think? Does a woman's level of physical attractiveness affect her behavior and potential for status? Do you think that's true?

[00:03:08]>> On a gen general basis, yes, I do. Her physical attractiveness, well, you know, they say uh beauty is an eye beholder.

[00:03:15]So, >> um I do think there are certain women that have a certain level of attract attractiveness across the board. Um regardless of body type. Now, when you get into the specific body types, that makes it, you know, more of what a specific man may find attractive or people find attractive. But overall, yeah, I I definitely agree that um women do have a level of appeal and then you have someone that does that has really great energy. They may not be overly beautiful, but they have that great energy. And there's something about them that you really can't put your finger on, but it's very very attractive. I think it affects their behavior. It depends. It's it's it's like anything how they how they choose to use it. Um there's plenty of women today have weaponized it. They've been telling each other to weaponize it. Uh you know, and with social media, it's just helped them weaponize it more. But you still have some very um mindfuls mindful women out there that understand the power that they are working with and you know use it for positive outcomes and not just using somebody getting rid of them and moving on to the next. M do you think men are the reason or males, whatever you want to say, are the reason that it affects their behavior and potential for status, >> you know, I don't I don't think it's just men only. I think women do it for women first. think they're in competition with each other and >> not not you know we're just generalizing that all but >> for the most part a lot of them are joined in that game and that's how they think. So everything is geared toward them toward woman on woman before it even becomes to the man.

[00:05:11]>> Okay man just adds extra fuel to the fire but you know they're they're in their operation amongst each other.

[00:05:17]>> Okay.

[00:05:20]>> All right. Uh first bullet. What gender is the biggest enforcer for traditional gender roles?

[00:05:29]Male or female?

[00:05:31]>> Should be males.

[00:05:32]>> Females.

[00:05:33]>> Female. Wait. Females.

[00:05:35]>> Males.

[00:05:36]>> No, males.

[00:05:36]>> Males. Okay.

[00:05:38]>> So, males are the biggest enforcer for gender roles. Okay. Um, do you want to expound on that? Why you believe that or?

[00:05:51]Well, well, for my for my uh the way I was raised and the type of man I am, I'm I'm going to When you say general, you mean within a relationship or you mean just in general in your household or >> Yeah, it could be relationship or household society.

[00:06:10]>> Yeah. Well, yeah, I'm definitely saying that the male sets the pace within a household on generals for sure. Uh there's a lot of guys that's getting those getting that core aspect of what it is to be a man in a family all messed up. Um I I won't blame it on just women raising men, raising boys to men, but I am going to say that dudes are just bought into being irresponsible >> and they deal with all the consequences that come with it. Oh, uh, you know, to be a man and to set the rules and and all that in your household, you got to be strong. You have to have, you know, some thought, some vision. And, you know, if you're a guy out here just living, you don't really have no goals.

[00:06:55]You don't know what you want. So, you don't really know how to have a woman in your life and what she's useful for.

[00:07:03]You know, >> most guys in today's world just think a woman's usage is is she submissing that she cook and clean, >> which I think is I think okay, but it sounds kind of like Windows 95 to me.

[00:07:19]Um, we got to update our software system on this stuff, man. because we just have to we have a different society and we just have to upgrade the rules and still >> maintain our uh our role in the household >> by leaning on some traditional stuff but you know a man like myself I don't need a woman to cook and clean for me >> so you know what you know I have other purposes that a woman can serve in my life I don't that's great if she does cook and clean that makes that makes our our relationship more efficient but I'm not solely dependent on just needing a woman to do some domestic work. That's just ridiculous. I could pay somebody to do that.

[00:07:57]>> Do you think it's all men that um set that enforce the traditional gender roles or is it like more like old school guys as opposed to like the younger generation?

[00:08:10]Yeah, definitely old school guys are are are trying to speak on maintaining your frame, but everybody's just doing whatever they want right now.

[00:08:22]So, it's all over the place. And I I think uh we just have more unfocused men. They just everybody's just having sex, but they're not they're not they don't know what they need a woman for.

[00:08:35]>> They really don't.

[00:08:36]>> Okay. Mhm.

[00:08:37]>> Um I also believe that men um are the biggest enforcers uh and I think it's because modern females have been told um not to depend on a man um and to be independent because of you know whatever experiences those women have themselves or because of you know they've known other women that have gone through un you know not so great experiences with men. So, I think um a woman, especially nowadays, they're going to try to fight that.

[00:09:11]>> So, I I agree that it's the men that are the biggest enforcers.

[00:09:16]>> I um I would agree with you guys as well. We're looking at um you know, all errors. Um but if we're looking in today, I would say women are the biggest enforcers for traditional gender roles.

[00:09:31]Like Sir Inc. was saying a lot of men today, I would say males, may not know what they need a woman for. I see a lot of males are steering away from traditional gender roles because of feminism, independence, boss babes, etc. Even the irony about all that as well, those same females, boss babes, independent alpha chicks, whatever, will still try to enforce gender roles without saying gender roles. They're masked in um other terms, you know. Um, you hear constantly, well, you know, when I speak to women, well, men aren't men today. That's why I'm single. Men aren't this, men aren't that. Like, the standard for men has come more from, and this is just my perspective, the standard for men has come more from what I see women because they're more vocal about it than actually men.

[00:10:43]So do you think women like do you think that women are doing that and want to be like independent as well?

[00:10:50]>> Yeah. Yeah. That's trauma.

[00:10:52]>> So they want >> anybody Yeah. Anybody that's healed and um anybody that's healed thinks like they have common sense. They'll they know that in order to get something they need to sacrifice something else. But someone who doesn't have common sense, who's not healed, who has unresolved trauma will think, well, I can get something and not have to do anything for it because I think I deserve it.

[00:11:16]>> Um, >> you know, you you'll hear it constantly, be a man, you're not doing this, you're not doing that. Like, I coach a lot of women and and men, but more women, and I'll hear it constantly about women setting the standard of what a man is >> or should do >> or should do, >> you know? So that's why like I agree with y'all if we're looking back in times and all errors, but I'm speaking on my perspective based off cuz I'm looking outside of me.

[00:11:44]>> Um what I see and here today >> um and if we're looking at where we are today, I think the um the females are the biggest enforcers for it. That's why I asked certain if he thinks it's like all males or just like the old school ones because I feel like a lot of the younger males nowadays, they're going to want um a girl to go half and half on the rent or you know, you pay this, I pay this. You know what I mean? So, I don't know if they necessarily are pushing for those gender roles.

[00:12:14]>> And and like Sir Inc. was saying, right?

[00:12:17]Um he mentioned one of the three things like submissiveness, um cook clean. Talked about this in a last show or two shows prior. A lot of times the modern guys just think traditional means that only >> Yeah.

[00:12:33]>> cook clean, pay the bills, you know, um for me like the woman cook, um submissive, you know, they think that that's that's the traditional gender roles. Um, so I don't think they really understand it um in in that regard.

[00:12:51]>> Okay.

[00:12:52]>> Um, do you believe all women are looking for an alpha or dominant man, but few are around and this is why deep down there subconsciously, you know, most of them are angry.

[00:13:11]>> No, I don't necessarily think this. I think they want they think they want a alpha male.

[00:13:18]>> Okay.

[00:13:18]>> Until until they have a alpha male.

[00:13:21]>> And one of the things that I've been talking about lately is what like a friend of mine said to me, she said, uh, maybe I'll find a man that'll tame me. And and she's a very gentle woman, but she said tame because she's like this high intellectual and got a lot going on. But I says that's not really not really it. When you meet a dude that's solid, that's a that's a dominant dude.

[00:13:49]His energy is going to be grounding to you. So you're not you're not he don't have to tame you. You're going to lay your swords down anyway because what he provides for you is a level of of of a floor to your chaoticness. When you find somebody that can settle you down, he don't have to tame you at all. He's not coming in with a with a with a with a chair and a and a whip.

[00:14:13]>> You're going to you're going to lay at his feet because you appreciate what he does for your soul >> and for your mind.

[00:14:20]>> You know what I'm saying? So, but so many people have been raised in chaos.

[00:14:26]>> They look at chaos on the TV. And so a solid relationship without a lot of drama that's efficient is not conducive to most people in today's world in in America.

[00:14:39]>> Our minds our minds are just too crazy with Instagram and all the distractions.

[00:14:44]all the distractions and they believe it and they start talking to each other and they look at all the podcast that reinforce that nonsense which I really like about your podcast because you always talk about a spiritual aspect to it and people just have to get back to look at your results ladies if the result is you're having fewer numbers of marriages and you know not lasting relationships you have to change something about what you're doing or Why would you follow that herd that has less success?

[00:15:19]>> That it just doesn't it doesn't make sense. So if you really want success, you have to go toward what successful relationships look like and do and not just wing it. But I realize so many people wing it. I've heard so many stories. I got so many stories for y'all. But I cuss right now. I've heard I've heard too much. I've heard too much. Actually, please let me just tell you one story.

[00:15:41]My husband's telling me about his brother-in-law and his brother-in-law married this woman. She's about 10 years younger than him. So, he's in his late 40s. She's in her late 30s. And he from he just got out. He got out of another marriage. He marries then he gets in with her. He marries her and from the he like, "Well, I don't want to live in the same house that you was in with your previous wife." And so, I I just automatically thought that was a red flag. And then he ends up selling his house, buying another house, the house that she wanted. Then she says, "Well, I don't like these trees outside the house." Then he reaches to his 401k and spends another 15,000 cutting these trees down and he does this, he does that. He doesn't start coming to the family uh functions. They have a baby and next thing you know, one one function, she uh messages his 15year-old niece and says, "I won't be making it."

[00:16:36]and such and such and I are not in a good place. We're we're we're not together right now. This is how he finds out the woman in his house is is is rolling. And he said to his sister-in-law, he said to his sister like, "Yo, I just I gave her everything she want. I understand what the problem is." And and that is back to what we're saying right now about men setting or me men setting the pace and the rules in the household.

[00:17:01]>> If you believe you 50/50, and here's the thing now. You got He's got to sell this house. They're heading for divorce, selling a house. You gave up your house to buy a house with her who she didn't have a house. Now you got to split this house with her.

[00:17:14]>> You got split the house with her.

[00:17:15]>> It's crazy you have >> you see what I'm saying? Like, but there's there's a lot of guys, man, living like this.

[00:17:21]>> It's crazy that you have this story because we have a topic just for a sneak peek for people. We have a topic about wants and needs.

[00:17:31]>> Mhm. a man providing for wants and needs.

[00:17:35]>> We have a topic like that, you know, and you know, you're a fan of the show.

[00:17:40]You've heard me say constantly about um this specific stuff where >> you're with a woman and she's demanding these things that she thinks she wants, >> but her needs are more important than her wants. And when you keep give giving into first of all this woman that's not submissive >> but when you keep giving into it you end up like this guy like this sir in is saying a true story >> you end up like this guy where this guy is now telling the story to somebody else >> operative word I gave her everything she wanted >> operative word want I gave her everything she wanted but what's happening is she keeps wanting more and more and more >> she keeps wanting more and more and more and the needs are more important important. But >> so let me say this, but but but but listen but listen how this falls apart a little bit too. So my cousin that's been married for over 20 years, he's definitely a dominant male. His house is in order. His house is in order. His kids, his wife, everything's cool. They don't have no They don't have no drama in their house. Like he's a very efficient um man. But he's telling his wife all these different signs that he's seen. I don't know about her. And did you peep that? And she was like, "Oh, no. It's okay. It's going to be, you know, it's all right." No, no, no. I don't think it like that.

[00:19:04]>> His sister completely followed the whistle >> because there are times that women just want to be optimist >> and you know your brother is making you you see the sign.

[00:19:16]>> Yeah. But you you can't even your husband is telling you and you see it yourself, but you you can't admit it to yourself nor your brother. You didn't give your brother no early warning signals >> because you was just hoping that it wasn't going to be what it digressed into.

[00:19:36]>> And so, you know, accountability sometime we want to just we just want to hope that everything work out. Like, no, you have to tell that man, yo, this is something is not right about your girl >> and you doing too much. I'd have been on him when he was talking about selling his house. No, you're doing too much.

[00:19:53]>> Yeah, >> but that's what I mean. Like, you have to have a men have to understand what do you need a woman for?

[00:20:00]>> If all you want is sex and someone to clean your crib and cook for you, just pay for it, man. I mean, don't involve the emotions and all that because you you playing games and you're going to end up wasting someone's time, wasting your time, or you gonna be paying for it in the long run like this did.

[00:20:16]>> Yeah.

[00:20:16]>> You know, just, you know, you have to know what you want. So that way when she comes with those wants, like you said, she's demanding that, she's demanding that. That don't fit the script, shorty.

[00:20:25]>> Yeah.

[00:20:25]>> That don't fit in the script. That's not in the script. And if you want that, well, go find somebody that can fulfill that for you. But I'm not playing that game. Like over here, this what we're doing.

[00:20:33]>> Yeah. And if you don't if you don't have no and that doesn't mean you have to say that with everything she wants, >> but her her wants have to fit within >> the parameters of of the means in the in the in the direction that y'all going in. You can't have somebody say, >> uh, get this house and then want the trees cut down. Then she said to him, I'm sorry, lastly, she didn't really want the house.

[00:20:57]>> Like, damn.

[00:20:58]>> Yeah.

[00:20:58]>> Like, wow. And he said, I did everything. Like, you know, he sold his house. He had to go in his his 401k to is this is too many stories like this with men and I don't know how men that are men that are he's not like a soft dude or whatever like that but you know I don't know how men just allow themselves to be treated like that. It it could be the the physical attractiveness, >> the age difference. Could be the age difference, right? He feel like, oh, >> he's 10 years he's 10 years younger.

[00:21:30]Maybe I got to do a little bit more >> for a younger woman, you know? I I thought that, too, but >> and I wouldn't do that for a younger woman. I'm good.

[00:21:37]>> Yeah, we'd have to we'd have to interview these people >> to like you got to get in the mind of the actual man, you know, because he's the one that's like facilitating all this, >> you know what I'm saying? in providing you got to get into the mind. What is your purpose for doing this?

[00:21:54]>> That's right.

[00:21:54]>> Yeah.

[00:21:55]>> Do you know if the Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt, but do you know if >> if the brother-in-law um like did did he take it upon himself to be like listen, you know, she she's acting funny or like did he give him a warning? Cuz I know it you guys said that the sister should have should have said something, >> but did the brother-in-law like do you know the brother-in-law? Oh, he did try.

[00:22:14]>> He he tried to Yeah. You know what? I'm I'm sorry, guys. Let me let me just give a little >> just a little more a little bit more context. So they're they're the the sister the wife my cousin's wife and her brother uh mother and father are still together and they're married. They're married and still together. However, the mother is the more dominating force more the dominating personality in their relationship.

[00:22:45]So >> the father is kind of a 5050 kind of guy >> and mom is like I'm doing my thing. Once she got on top she was like yeah I'm out. I'm doing my thing. But pop don't he's not an expansive dude. However the mother doesn't uh she doesn't emasculate the father at all. She allows him to be in his role even though she's calling the shots. he doesn't demean him or make him feel less of >> in that role.

[00:23:17]>> You know what I'm saying? So, so this is what they grew up seeing. So, I think the son is kind of chasing finding a woman like his mother because he's set up for it, right?

[00:23:26]>> But you just got to you have to find a woman that'll be like your mother who understands like, okay, I got a good guy. He works. He ain't out there in the street. Let me uh I can do me but not be crazy. You know, I basically I'm controlling everything, but you know, my life is great and my man ain't gonna bother me, you know, >> and do it like the mob. She has her life going on and you know, like, yo, you know, you you got yours. You safe in your little area. Great. But you you he met the wrong girl. He met a girl that's like she couldn't stomach him, I guess.

[00:23:58]>> Yeah.

[00:24:00]>> You know, damn.

[00:24:02]>> Um Okay. So I I I don't necessarily believe all women are looking for um an alpha dominant man, you know, no >> due to significant trauma like I said with the other my other statement, you know, from whatever they're going through. But I do I do feel most women would um want or appreciate like an an a dominant man, an alpha dominant.

[00:24:28]>> Yeah. I I think um I think all women are looking for that. like they're like a lot of them are not gonna um approach, you know, but they this is like their dream guy. And I think I only believe this because of um biology and science.

[00:24:47]I believe like we go back to like um ancestry uh what like the woman is um biologically designed to be attracted to. what triggers arousal, you know, mental arousal, emotional arousal, physical, sexual arousal. Um, and a lot of times these guys click all the boxes. So, I think like their dream guy would be this, but I agree with Mr. Inc., like they don't they don't know what like they don't know what it is. Like it's almost as if if I always had dreams of a Ferrari, right? I don't like Ferraris, you know? It's Italian. It's you drive it every day, it's going to have problems. I'm more of a Japanese sports car type of guy cuz I like owning cars, >> you know, for a long time. You know what I'm saying? Like, um, you should lease a Ferrari if that's what you're getting.

[00:25:41]And after the warranty and stuff like that, give it back, sell it. Um, cuz it's not built to be owned and stuff like that. You're going to be expending a lot. So, imagine if I have dreams for a Ferrari.

[00:25:52]But I, you see what I just did there? I just dissected a Ferrari like with a fragment of it.

[00:25:59]>> So I know I may have the money for it, but I just told you why I would never spend. It's a bad investment, >> you know. Um, so a lot of times I believe that by nature this is what you want, but because you never had one, you don't know the qualities they have. You don't know what they come with. You don't know if they come with rules, boundaries, uh, um, they're dominant, they exercise control. You don't know these things. You just like it's your dream. And I use the analogy of the sports car to like make it more understandable. Like I never had a Ferrari, but I always thought that that is the ultimate dream car to have.

[00:26:40]>> You know what I'm saying? I don't know how fast it is. I don't know what the maintenance would be like. I don't know what the cost yearly. I just think that it's beautiful to look at. I think that it's fast. I've seen it in commercials.

[00:26:52]I've seen it in films. It looks like the ultimate car to have.

[00:26:56]>> Mhm.

[00:26:56]>> So, I think all women like go to that direction. C. Can they handle them?

[00:27:03]That's one thing. Do they know what they come with? That's two. Do they know what their traits are? That's three. Are will they have to make sacrifices to get them? That's four.

[00:27:13]>> Like, do they know? No. But I think that all women are kind of seeking these guys and they realize there's few around and I think this is one of the reasons why they are angry. Now a lot of times when women are getting their needs met more than their wants, they're happy. And that happiness turns into a lot of power that they give that man, that they give society, that they give their household, that they give their family and kids.

[00:27:44]You know, so I think a couple of things make females angry. Not having food, hungry, pause. Not getting not getting good dick. Pause.

[00:27:56]>> You know what I'm saying? Um, like there's there's a couple of things. Not having a man, providing protection and stuff of that nature. I think those things kind of get them angry. Um, with all jokes aside, I'm still, you know, being serious. Um and I think the fact that you know I believe women um operate very very well even statistics say this when they're in good relationships that make them happy versus making all the money in the world. Yeah, I agree with >> you know so I think ultimately like >> the woman is always kind of seeking that that that companionship that that relationship you know what I'm saying and they want like maybe the what we would say in layman's term the what they would believe the highest value of a man >> you know subjectively you know or the best guy that will click all these boxes and maybe these these these monikers alpha or dominant men hold that in their mind. So, they're always seeking that, >> you know, and then when they end up getting with a guy that's not really their type, it's like, wait, that woman has a lot See, that woman's in situations that a lot of women would would would die for.

[00:29:13]One of them things she's in a relationship, but she's not happy there.

[00:29:17]She's angry. She's, you know, combative with, "Oh, why are you not stepping up to be a man? Why are you not doing this?

[00:29:22]why you not doing that? I think deep down based off how they're built, what they're biologically designed to be attracted to, they they all would be seeking um all this and then I think that's what subconsciously they make them angry.

[00:29:37]>> Okay. Um, why is it acceptable for couples to have comical skits where the woman is abusive and it's funny, but if the man would be, it's criminal and everybody loses their mind.

[00:29:52]>> Like I before you go, I wanted to put this here because when it's crazy, I don't spend a lot of time on social media, but when I do log on, I see this stuff >> like these skits. these skits >> and then it's like >> yeah, it's it's comical, right? It's funny, you know? We had a long day. We want to laugh, >> but it's like like you you see it and it's just like, wow, she straight up punched them. She straight up slapped them for real. Like this this this WWE wrestling, but it's it's real slaps.

[00:30:24]It's real. This like they're putting they're they're setting up with with pranks and stuff like that, >> but it's it's hilarious, >> you know? like why is this um something that is just it's funny and it's just oh we don't take it seriously but if a man was to do the same thing in a skit it would be criminal might lose everything we lose our mind >> yeah you know I I saw like you I was I was looking at YouTube or something like that I had these skits of these uh these younger these young people in their 20s I don't I don't know if they was part of a school. They were actors, young actors, and they were acting this out in New York, ironically uh in in the park.

[00:31:10]And when the it was a guy and a girl, and when she would hit him and be pushing him around, talking dirty to him, no one really said anything. People just looked and laughed a little bit.

[00:31:22]One older lady did come up and was like, "Young lady, you should relax." Um but then when it was when the when the when the situation was reversed and it was a guy you know abusing a girl guys come up ready to fight him one guy swung on him like so um and their their content was a social experiment to show the the inequity in in that uh in what you're saying and that does need to be talked about and it does need to be addressed in a way that uh we do not try to weaponize women or encourage women to put their hands on men. And I say that because you don't know what someone that's more powerful than you will do, especially if you think he won't do anything back.

[00:32:17]>> Yeah. See, that's a good point.

[00:32:18]>> He He might be He might be the worst person.

[00:32:21]>> Yeah. Uh and and when you unlock that lock is is it's hard to go back and you and nowadays and just not to be so severe but as we see on TV there's a lot of women coming up dead which is you know body dudes is kind of ridiculous. I wouldn't lose my mind like that but you never know what what what one man can take another man just cannot >> you know.

[00:32:46]>> Yeah. One of the things my dad always taught me when I was younger was um don't play uh don't don't play that game like like tit t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t for tat like hitting each other even in a joking matter. Um because it could turn serious. Um I never understood that but I followed it.

[00:33:08]I was very very young when he told me, but he was just always saying like never like never put your hands on your woman even in a joking matter and never allow her to do it to you.

[00:33:21]>> And I used to be like like why? And >> he just from what I could remember would tell me if you kind of like um to layman's term learn behavior. Like pretty much what he was saying is um >> if you let her get used to that or vice versa or you both get used to that the moment it's serious or you get into an argument or something like that because it's second nature you'll just do it because it's it just you know you're just used to it >> or she'll just do it or both just do it.

[00:33:55]>> You know what I'm saying? So >> that's from what I could remember of him explaining to me on why not to do it.

[00:34:02]Um, so when I see these skits, I'm thinking to myself, "Yeah, it's a joke.

[00:34:07]They're joking. I wonder if she really be beating his ass behind closed doors."

[00:34:11]When she gets angry, I wonder if he be really beating her ass behind Well, I don't see I don't see men doing it.

[00:34:18]>> I see more women doing it >> in the skits.

[00:34:20]>> In the skits. Um, so I'm just like wondering like, hm, maybe, you know, she's done that easy. You know what I'm saying? for you to just do it for a skit and you're acting, but it's so easy for you to act that role.

[00:34:35]>> Mhm.

[00:34:36]>> You know, >> I think my mom used to say tell say the same thing except it was just I guess more like a universal like don't play with your hands cuz it's going to go it's going to get serious real quick.

[00:34:48]>> But um I think I think that most people they don't they don't believe women pose like a real threat to men. You know what I mean? So, I think they're just like, "Ah, it's just just for shits and giggles. It's just, you know, for laughs." But then you have some men who have done some really bad things to to women and they kind of ruined it for other men who don't, you know, who think like like you guys, you shouldn't play like that. You know, it's you're you're setting the tone for like how you said your dad taught you >> for, you know, you guys play like that.

[00:35:19]She's going to get used to it and then when things get serious, she's going to think it's okay to do or, you know, vice versa for you to do too. But um I think that's why I think a lot of people just think you know a woman she's what is she going to do? Just like with you know uh sexual abuse not really sexual abuse but like um at the workplace what's that called?

[00:35:38]>> Sexual harassment >> right? You know there we've heard of it there are women in power who who have sexually harassed male but do they come you know are they going to complain about it? No. Why? Because it's a woman and really >> Mhm.

[00:35:50]>> So I think it's the same thing. You you you nailed it on the head what I was going to say.

[00:35:55]>> No, sorry.

[00:35:56]>> No, no, no. The apologies, but you you you it's like >> it's like you read my mind. First thing I was thinking about was Yeah. We don't take women seriously when it pertains to physicality, >> right?

[00:36:10]>> You know, like we're looking at Imagine if I I bench 300 lb. I'm a beast in the gym, but I go into the jungle. I go into the jungle and I'm just I'm kicking the lion that's laying down.

[00:36:24]>> Will the lion look at me and be like, "Okay, like he's food. Like this hurts."

[00:36:31]>> No.

[00:36:32]>> You know, and the other lions in the jungle may not even see the same thing.

[00:36:36]Now, if I'm if I got a spear and I'm coming at him, they're all going to jump me.

[00:36:42]>> They're going to kill me. You know what I'm saying? But like I I agree with you.

[00:36:47]like it's, you know, it's not believable. It's um she's not a threat.

[00:36:51]She's smaller than him. Um you know, it's not common for women to abuse men.

[00:36:58]We haven't heard that. That's why it's like funny, >> right? Well, and you know what I think is what I the the aspect of women being weaker than men is something that I think we like kind of talk, you know, not us right here, but I'm just saying in general people need to talk about that where women we have different degrees of of of strengths and powers >> and women because they're not armed with physicality, their defenses is is the emotional side is the being able to be more wittier than men, be more mature than men, mental.

[00:37:38]>> That's how they can, you know, calm a beast, >> you know. So, like, but we, you know, we dismiss that because you you can't really the what they possess can't be shown outwardly a lot of times.

[00:37:54]>> So, we just make say, you know, look at her, she she can't beat me, you know, she can't beat me. But the whole time, you know, she's draining your bank account, draining your soul, you know, you know, but you feel like I I could do whatever I want to do to her, you know, like she can't beat me, but she's beating you.

[00:38:13]>> She's beating the crap out of you.

[00:38:14]>> She's winning the game. You know, she's she's allowing you to think that you're winning.

[00:38:19]>> And that is the part that >> we just miss, >> but you know, the the results are there.

[00:38:26]I know we all have seen people talk about the whole episode of the Survivor with that men versus women and all that and the men were outpacing the women.

[00:38:35]They had everything popping.

[00:38:37]>> The women were in shambles. But then the women found a way to talk the the lower the the beta males >> into undermining the alpha males. And then after a while all the women took the island over and all the men were voted off. I'm just saying, you know, it's like guys have to understand that that's that's their superpower, man.

[00:38:55]Like like this is but this is is nature.

[00:38:59]>> Nature is not is not bad. That is what nature it gave them to protect themselves.

[00:39:07]>> Yeah. But I think that just like how you know men have to you know their strength is their kind of strength also and they have to learn how to control it. a woman, even though, like you said, they they should they should learn how to tame the beast, a lot of females nowadays, they don't even know themselves, let alone how to how to use their powers. You know what I mean?

[00:39:28]>> Yes.

[00:39:29]>> So, it's it's like >> completely, >> you know, if anything, they'll they're so full of ego that they they just make it worse.

[00:39:38]>> They just egg on the the the situation instead of using their powers to kind of, like you said, calm the beast.

[00:39:45]>> You know what's funny? I I ask uh I would ask those ladies that I meet what makes you happy and don't start with oh my family, my kids and you know my my mother, my father and this and that and I'm like okay I'm sorry I didn't I didn't realize we had to start at the ground floor but I was asking you action of all of that what makes you happy >> and Most people and I I'll say people, but when I'm saying in this context is women, but a lot of people and most and a lot of women that I've come across do not know the answer to that. They will always tied into something or someone else. My kids, my grandkids, cool. But your your kids won't be kids all all their life. So, what's what what are you going to do? Who are you? What do you like? What do you like to do? What what makes you happy? People don't know.

[00:40:44]a lot of people that a lot of women don't know >> and that is a and and to's >> point earlier and to your point so a lot of women don't know themselves and then they come with these false demands and they just rip up you're ripping up situations trying to figure out who you are >> and but what have you learned because a lot of people don't have any original ideas they're not they're not looking at themselves in a spiritual way so they're just running the same program everybody else is running >> you Look at people ar ar ar ar ar ar ar ar ar ar ar ar ar ar ar ar ar ar ar ar ar ar ar ar ar ar ar ar ar ar ar ar ar ar ar ar ar ar ar ar arguing all this.

[00:41:15]I'm like who argues? Y'all argue.

[00:41:17]>> Argue like that. I don't argue. I don't argue. I've never argued really. I had one relationship that I argued, but I I've not not had relationships that I argue. And I don't argue. I I think it's a I think it's a a show of poor character to argue.

[00:41:33]>> Yeah. Yeah. like my my you know my being a lifestyle like my lifestyle like BDSM >> there's nothing like that >> you know in there you know um arguing is like vanilla >> it is >> like that's like vanilla relationships >> you know like we don't we you wouldn't have a do wouldn't have an argument with the sub like they would be having a discussion >> you know what I'm saying and then there's there's there's roles um but but I digress Yes. Um, so for a man, right?

[00:42:07]Sorry, Sue, you're out of this.

[00:42:08]>> Yeah, but can I say what I would think?

[00:42:10]>> Okay. So, for a man, what what is your favorite non-physical trait in a woman?

[00:42:17]There's four. Mind and intellect, uh, femininity, emotional maturity, or supportive nature.

[00:42:29]Non-physical trait you love in a woman.

[00:42:32]mind, intellect, >> femininity, emotional maturity, or supportive nature.

[00:42:43]>> I would say femininity and intellect.

[00:42:47]>> You got We got to pick one.

[00:42:50]>> Oh, I got to pick just one. My bad. Uh, I would say femininity.

[00:42:55]>> Okay. Um, I I can concur to that. That was like one of the first things that that drew me to this when I saw this. Um because I think >> Well, what why do you why do you pick that? And then I'll say Millie.

[00:43:10]>> Oh, because I can work with you if you feminine. I I can work with anything else.

[00:43:14]>> Okay.

[00:43:14]>> But if you're not feminine, I can't I can't work with you. We you not going to get along.

[00:43:18]>> Yeah. I I I concur. Femininity to me is the umbrella and then everything else falls under it. That that's what I believe cuz I think a woman who wants to be feminine with a man is smart.

[00:43:33]>> She's an intellect. She's using her mind. And I think that emotional maturity comes with femininity because she's going to be she's going to be submissive, >> you know. And I think the supportive nature also comes with femininity.

[00:43:47]So it's like that's like when I look at femininity, femininity is the the the father or the parent and then everything all the other categories fall under.

[00:43:58]That's why I would pick it.

[00:44:00]>> You have a woman who's who's um intellect but she's not feminine. She's a boss babe. She's a feminist. She's an alpha female. She's always challenging you. Oh, I got a higher degree than you, >> so why would I want to learn from you?

[00:44:15]Um, or she's battling. Oh, women don't do that anymore. Blah, blah, blah. Like, I I could dress how I want. I'm going on a girls trip. What What do you got to say? We make the same amount of money.

[00:44:26]>> She's an intellect. Look at all this stuff I've accomplished. I'm the youngest in my my I'm the youngest CEO in my corporation. Like the mind. You got it. You got it, you know, but you don't have all these other qualities.

[00:44:39]Emotional maturity. Yeah, you can have the emotional maturity, but same thing like you may not have the femininity, you may not be supportive >> and all these other things. And then you may be supportive, you might have that nature, but it may be not consistent.

[00:44:55]>> Not consistent. I I think Can I just say mine?

[00:44:58]>> Yeah.

[00:44:59]>> Okay. I'm not a guy, but I think the one that would make sense would be supportive. Well, the sense to because you guys know the type of woman that you like, right? You both like the a feminine woman. There are some guys like like you've seen on like they've even been portrayed in shows. You might even know guys >> who um like, you know, like their girl to be more like one of the homies type, right? You've seen that, right? They may not like that or may not know necessarily because they don't there's not a lot of feminine women out like like you see outwardly anyway. But if he h if she she could be like thuggy or like you know a tomboy but if she has that supportive nature she can still help him rise you know what I mean? he can still give him um that push when he's feeling down cuz not a lot of men >> can, you know, talk that life into themselves. But if he has a woman that's supportive, may not be feminine, >> um may not even be, you know, super smart or or have that emotional machine, but if she can tap into that supportive nature and push him, she can help him grow.

[00:46:04]>> Yeah. And she she's a rider. She she'll do whatever she can do within her capabilities.

[00:46:10]>> Right.

[00:46:11]and >> 10 toes down. She she doesn't question anything. That's what I hear.

[00:46:16]>> She doesn't question a whole lot.

[00:46:17]>> And the the good thing about it is like you you you stated that but the operative word here what you love.

[00:46:25]>> So when we looking at like what Inc. and I are saying, right? I I'm going to give you an example. What you said supportive nature. I know a few masculine women out there that have supportive nature >> for me, >> but I would never love them.

[00:46:42]>> I I know that I would never love them. I would never get in a relationship with them >> because they're they're not feminine.

[00:46:49]They they would fight submission. They would make fun of that >> if I was stating that. They would make fun of that.

[00:46:55]>> Um and it wouldn't be something that they would feel comfortable with. Like I've one of them told me, "Oh, it wouldn't come natural," >> you know? So like you can't force people to do certain things. If they don't see it, they don't see it. They don't see your vision, they don't see your vision.

[00:47:11]So I I know a couple that are cool chicks. They're they're real cool, >> but I would never love them.

[00:47:18]>> I would never get in a relationship with them because of that lack of femininity.

[00:47:22]So that's why like for me I feel like once she's in that feminine feminine realm she's in that divine all of those things are going to come that's why I feel the supportive nature the emotional um maturity how she speaks her tone um what she's going to engage in you know she might not feel comfortable oh I I don't I don't want to come out with just the boys there's not going to be no girls there >> it's just the boys no no babe it's good daddy like you have fun >> you know what I'm saying like that. You know what I'm saying?

[00:47:52]>> Mhm.

[00:47:53]>> So, um that's that's just how I look at it.

[00:47:56]>> Okay.

[00:47:56]>> Um in um what's the most important part in a relationship? Uh this is for all of us. Is it sex, love, trust, or time?

[00:48:12]>> Who's first?

[00:48:13]>> You guess always go first.

[00:48:20]Oh man. Um, love, trust, sex or time.

[00:48:29]>> Ah, trust.

[00:48:32]>> Trust.

[00:48:33]>> Trust. I'm going say trust.

[00:48:35]>> Okay. So, >> uh, I agree. Trust.

[00:48:39]>> Damn. We all on the same page.

[00:48:42]>> We all on the same page. I mean, I I think >> the value of it.

[00:48:46]>> Yeah. Yeah. Like I know I know for me like trust and and respect kind of go hand in hand and it's a it's a very um vital component for me being a Scorpio >> um too cuz I'm a rider um and um you know I think that once like I have that trust she can unlock a lot of things like she could get the time, she could get the love, she could get the sex because I think all those things for me and I'm just speaking as a dominant. I'm not saying all guys got to think like this, but as a dominant, I'm looking at like >> sex, love, and time >> that I'm getting from her and I'm giving, especially what I'm giving is a gift. So, if I don't trust, then it's going to affect my emotions with her.

[00:49:39]And then now I might take away time. I might not have as much sex. I might not definitely not going to love, >> you know what I mean? Let alone respect.

[00:49:50]So, I think that's why I would choose um choose that.

[00:49:56]>> Do you want to expound um Inc. on why you would choose?

[00:50:02]>> Yeah, I definitely will expound on that.

[00:50:04]Um, I would choose tr I chose trust because if I trust you, then you'll get you'll get the full range of what I can do for you. But if I don't trust you is very limited. I'm I'm really not being my full self around that person.

[00:50:24]>> Uh, our our relationship is limit is limited and I'm just operating in the bounds that it's in. But I wouldn't be able to if I can't trust you. And it could be with money or sex or or even and all that other stuff that we mentioned. If I don't trust you, I can't trust you. None of them no mother. I couldn't trust you in sex. None of that.

[00:50:44]>> So um and that's just the you know that's just the way I'm hardwired because I can sex is you can make sex what you want to make it.

[00:50:54]Um so I wouldn't you know sex is not a priority on no qualifying list. I mean, it's great. If it's if it's great, it's great. But that can't be the the the number one factor because now I'm allowing my my physical uh side, you know, my my animal side just control my thoughts and my behavior. And that's going to that's going to lead you down that wrong path like this guy that we I was talking about earlier >> who you wonder like, okay, maybe it's the age difference. Maybe he's not as fit at late 40s and she's a hot 30, late 30 something. And so he feel like, ah, I gotta dive on the floor for the balls to, you know, pause, but you know, I got to go extra to I got to go extra to to keep this girl, you know? So, >> yeah. So, but trust but trust is understanding that uh >> like in that situation like no, you do you moving into my house and we're going to make a we're going to live here for a minute and we'll we'll take some money.

[00:51:55]We'll save us some money and buy another house and rent this house out there.

[00:51:59]That's to be a plan. But when there's no trust, you end up in a place that this guy ended up in, which is I did everything for her and now he's debating did she ever really love me.

[00:52:08]>> True. What about you? Uh well I pick trust because you know for a woman for a woman trust is a big thing. You know if if we have trust trust for us is equal to feeling protected. And if we have a safe place where we feel protected then we just give you all our love all our time all our sex because we we are you know we feel safe and we and we have that trust that you're going to take care of us. not you know not just like take care of take care of us like monetary but you're gonna take care of my mind you're gonna take care of my energy you're not gonna stress me out stuff like that so once we have that is like open door >> okay sir inc which one would you choose okay and you can only have one now there's two there's two beautiful ladies here >> I'm going to describe body type and face both of them are both of them are tens in the face >> okay >> all right one of them is slim thick.

[00:53:06]She's breasts, arms, stomach, ass everything, right? You know, and I'm going to send you the picture of this so you could look at what we were talking about. I'm having I'm having it posted up on the screen.

[00:53:21]>> So, so both of them and the other one is thick, maybe big bone.

[00:53:27]>> Um, they're both talking to you and the the one that's slim thick, that's body type, right? whatever, right? Maybe a perfect 10, depending on the type of man you are, if you like slim dig or whatever. She's saying, "I'm fine as hell, but I ain't cooking, cleaning, submitting to no one. Um, I'm coming in here. Um, [ __ ] your femininity. Um, I'm I'm going to do girls trips. I've known these girls for a minute.

[00:53:58]um you know, I'm I'm you know, I'm going to dress how I want and I'm kind of going to do how I want. If I'm choosing you, be happy with that. Um because there's a lot of people that want me.

[00:54:11]Okay, that's her. the other one who's, you know, big boned or whatever or thick you would say. Um, she says, "I may not be Instagram fine or even on Instagram like so like all day or like that, but my house is clean. Um, my kids are respectful. I treat my man right. Um, you know, I um I I always will come to you for the final say. If I'm going on girls trips, I want to know what you would want if you tell me no, I won't go. Um, I just need your input. I'm not asking you for things to um you know like I'm not asking you for like to to just like be a tyrant here but I want to be able to have a teammate. So one is fine but difficult. The other one is average but peaceful >> and she's cooking too.

[00:55:12]>> They're both beautiful.

[00:55:14]>> Different body types.

[00:55:16]>> Yeah. I'm I'm taking uh I'm taking number two. Who's number two? Oh, >> the second one.

[00:55:22]>> The the thick >> Yeah, the second Yeah, I'm taking the thick one with with the compliant.

[00:55:26]>> Okay. Why? Because of that. The compliance.

[00:55:30]>> Yeah. I mean, because you can you I could pay I could just go somewhere and pay a [ __ ] beautiful girl. I mean, you can't get someone that's going to be down on your team and willing to be what you need them to be to be to be with you. You just you can't find loyalty.

[00:55:45]Loyalty is a lifestyle. You can't you can't buy it. You know what I mean? God trying to buy it. You can't buy it. that you can buy a pretty girl, >> you can go somewhere and do that. You know, you rather, again, I always say pay for it, don't pay for it. But me personally, um if you live if you live long enough and you've um have dealt with enough women and you've dealt with attractive women, then you know, beauty isn't isn't everything. And I've had a pretty girl super bad and she wasn't a nurturer at all, you know, and the relationship was more like about her.

[00:56:20]And that didn't last long. And that was in my early 20s, but still like, yeah, I realized then like, yeah, just because she's super bad don't mean she's a good person >> or good for me.

[00:56:30]>> So, I was she was selfish and uh I was like, no, I'm good. But now someone that's six or seven that's compliant and or nine in the face and and got and coming with the compliance. I'm taking that all day.

[00:56:44]>> So what do you think a man would choose?

[00:56:49]>> Most we're not talking about >> I'm going say most men.

[00:56:52]>> Yeah.

[00:56:53]>> Dominant men or or regular guys?

[00:56:58]>> I know a regular guys are picking but dominant men. Domin taking the second one.

[00:57:04]>> Okay. So, what do you think mo most guys would choose?

[00:57:09]>> Um, like you >> I think most guys would say that they would take the second one, but they would try to hit they would definitely try to go for the first one just on off of look.

[00:57:20]>> I I definitely agree with that. Now, when Sir Inc. is hitting all the cylinders when he's saying, "Well, when you had it before and you had a multiple beautiful women," or whatever it is, what he's saying makes sense.

[00:57:35]>> But when you're a guy who never had a gorgeous woman and it's like, "Wow, she's giving me attention. Wow, I could get I could get her. All I got to do is spend.

[00:57:44]>> All I got to do is do this. All I got to do is simp."

[00:57:47]>> Like, baby Beta. Okay. You know what I'm saying? and and that and mind you um also the flip side that's a beta mentality right him going in thinking that he got to adjust to her >> the dominant man so me I'm picking the second one >> um because yes like sir in I've had beautiful women in the past and stuff like that but it's not it's not mainly that it's more it's I'm more in depth >> see you can't change character you either got it or you don't >> right so me and I could say I'm Superman. Even I can't save hoes.

[00:58:26]>> So for me, I could come in and I could say, well, the first one is really really my my my my type physically, which is true, >> right?

[00:58:34]>> The slim thick and stuff of that nature, but internally I'm never going to love her. This is the main part. I'm picking you. And if I'm picking you, I'm going to invest.

[00:58:44]>> I'm a businessman, too. So I want an ROI. I want return on my investment.

[00:58:50]The first woman is a bad investment.

[00:58:53]Very, very bad. Because she could even get me in trouble.

[00:58:57]>> Mhm.

[00:58:58]>> She can even get me in trouble. She's going out. She's already telling me she's not going to submit. So that So what if she crazy at the mouth? I can't control her now. I got to fight her battles and her battle is a man.

[00:59:08]>> Mhm.

[00:59:09]>> You know what I'm saying? I knock him out, break his nose or something. I don't even know if he's going to be a thug like that or sue me.

[00:59:16]>> Mhm.

[00:59:18]call the cops right away. We in a restaurant full of white people and they ain't afraid to call the cops.

[00:59:23]>> That's true.

[00:59:24]>> So now I'm I'm jammed up. Is she gonna be the one to bail me out? She like, "Nah, [ __ ] I'm I'm going on to the next."

[00:59:30]>> Like you shouldn't even have fought that dude. But wait a minute. I was defending your honor.

[00:59:34]>> Mhm.

[00:59:34]>> That could be a scenario. The other The other is so many different things that she not bringing me peace. I'm going to be stressed all the time. But what? I got a baddie on my arm. the possible sex is good and all that and it's making my value high because she looks good and she's eye candy. No, the the dominant guy is gonna go in there and say, "I'm choosing the character." Because you got to remember that woman is already beautiful. It's just her body that might be a little bit off. I'm a trainer. I'm a personal trainer. I could get her right physically.

[01:00:07]>> Mhm.

[01:00:08]>> You know what I'm saying? You cannot mold character. someone coming in that's telling you a female that's saying I'm a feminist, you ain't going to be able to change her. You could give her the things, good sex and all that stuff temporarily. Oh, okay. I'll do this. She going to go back to her old ways.

[01:00:26]She going to go back to her old ways because that is how she naturally is.

[01:00:30]Ain't nobody changing that. Only she can change that. She's in her own way whether what she wants to be. what she's telling you what she's not going to be in the beginning is what she's tell how she's going to be in the end too.

[01:00:42]>> She's only going to comply to as long as she's getting provided those great things. But let's say you go on a business trip and you don't see her for a week.

[01:00:52]You know what I'm saying? So that also means the good sex is gone too, >> right?

[01:00:56]>> So what's that's going to happen? She going to go back to her old ways because she already has this character >> in her. Now, the the woman that is naturally like this, I do this, do that, boom, boom, boom. She's going to comply to that of just um I'm going to come here already with love. Everything I'm getting is a bonus.

[01:01:18]>> Everything I'm getting is a bonus. So, you're actually going to be happier there. And also the biological biological makeup of a man man in general divine he falls in love with behavior more than that other stuff >> superficialities >> he falls in love with behavior character that's why you see a lot of times these professional athletes they married a high school sweetheart and stuff like that >> because she wrote or died um metaphor highest level of loyalty possibly >> like sir Ink was saying you can't buy that.

[01:01:52]>> No, >> you can't buy that. You can't buy character. You either got it or you don't. So, I know for me, yes, visually, if I see them both, I'm approaching the first one. The moment I get to know her, yeah, I'm I'm gone. The catalyst is not going to be, well, she looks good. Yeah, I can I can mold this. No, no, no. I'm not I'm not dumb.

[01:02:19]There are some guys that are dumb that do think like that though, >> you know.

[01:02:23]>> Yeah. And and and the worst thing about them is >> they they they ain't even dominance. So they're not even going to come in and and enforce [ __ ] That's the worst thing, too.

[01:02:33]>> Some lessons I was going to say some lessons you'd rather learn early than late. You rather learn that lesson in your teenage years, in your early 20s, opposed to you being in your 30s, 40s plus, and still dealing with that nonsense. If you still going for just looks over anything else, you're one of those guys that I'm talking about. You don't you don't know what you need a woman for. So even even a rich guy, even a guy with plenty of money that can take it like he want eye candy. I'm not saying all of them, but some guys want eye candy. So they can afford to make that choice. But the average dude can't afford to make the pretty girl with no substance choice. just can't just can't afford to do that, you know, because it's gonna it's going to cost you see the million the the the millionaire guy, he can break off two million on the divorce and keep it pushing.

[01:03:25]>> But if you got to break up, you know, if you making less than, you know, if you make $80,000 a year, you got a little house, you can't, you know, you breaking up a $300,000 house, you you you are broken. You gota go back to your you gota go back to your your aunt house your mama house or get an apartment and the and damn you paying mortgage prices for apartments now. So man it's it's those you have to know what you need women for. And I think another part of this too is a lot of guys have to understand yes a woman will have a kid with you to get you in a financial situation. Yes you a dude that make 50,000 a year. Yes, some chick with lesser status, lesser mindset will have a kid by you and and pull you down.

[01:04:14]Like, y'all have to understand what y'all playing with, you know? But if you don't have know what you need a woman for in your life, you going to put yourself in all these kind of dangers and go for the, you know, the banana and the tail pipe.

[01:04:28]By six months, what should a couple have established to build a strong relationship?

[01:04:34]>> In six months, uh, in six months, at least, uh, a level of respect and, um, consistency and rules of engagement, we'll say that. Yeah.

[01:04:49]>> Um, I said understanding, communication, and trust.

[01:04:54]For me, I I'm piggybacking off you guys.

[01:04:58]Um, trust, respect, um, clear boundaries.

[01:05:03]>> Clear boundaries that we both we both agree that we're going to respect >> each other's boundaries. Um, perhaps rules.

[01:05:12]>> Um, you know, and um, by by 6 months, we need to establish like a plan.

[01:05:22]>> Mhm. You know, like what? Yeah. What are we doing for the next six months and on?

[01:05:28]>> Intent. Intent. Intent.

[01:05:31]>> Exactly.

[01:05:33]>> Can you reject a good woman just cuz they got three kids with three different fathers? Would you should you not?

[01:05:40]Should you give her the benefit of the doubt because she's a good woman?

[01:05:44]Man, I could do all the above. Uh it would really depend on her character. Uh it would really depend on her character, but three kids by three different men.

[01:05:56]That just shows a lack of good judgment in my opinion. So like I at this age, at what age are you with three kids? If you're anywhere in your Yeah. It doesn't matter where you at in your life with three kids but three different men, you don't know how to make good decisions.

[01:06:12]And I would look at it like you have some kind of emotional thing that you chasing. And um I'm not willing to be a part of that. You be a good person, but I'm just not willing to step into that.

[01:06:24]That's just too much to step into.

[01:06:27]>> True.

[01:06:28]>> Um can you reject? Yeah, I think you can. I mean, it's it's like preference.

[01:06:32]She could be good all she wants, but it's if you know, if you're the type of man that's like three kids, three different men, I agree with, you know, Ser like she has bad >> uh like she makes bad choices.

[01:06:45]>> Yeah. So you both use the same um term which is an operative term bad you know um poor uh uh judge a character and stuff like that. So it's it's like a oxymoron because we're saying good woman here and you guys use the terms poor and bad.

[01:07:02]>> Um so subjectively for me I'm going to reject her because I don't see her as a good woman.

[01:07:09]>> You know subjectively how I'm looking at it. She could be a good woman in society, but I don't see her as a good woman because of her choices, >> you know. Um, good woman. What what merit is that? She goes to church every Sunday. She gives back to the she supports um you know to certain things that are going on that's demonic or whatever. She's um she takes care of her kids. She get like what determines her as a good woman? It's subjective. So, I look at it like if she's a good woman, she wouldn't have three kids with three different fathers because then she would be thinking about her kids if she was a good woman. That's number one. Number two, three different fathers most likely they're not going to get along with each other. That's another thing that's like not a good woman.

[01:08:04]Because if we could be saying she's a good person, she's thinking about others. She's thinking about their feelings.

[01:08:11]>> M >> you know what I'm saying? So this is like a whole spectrum. We we could talk about this. This could be one whole topic >> if we wanted to to to get into it. You know, it's a loaded question. Um >> it is a loaded question. But for me, I would reject her because, you know, like I agree with you guys. She's she's not a good decision maker. Like I believe that when a woman has sex, she's submitting.

[01:08:38]So she submitted too many times. You know what I'm saying? And she got byproducts out of that which were children.

[01:08:47]And it's like there's different DNAs in her too if we look at it on a spiritual aspect.

[01:08:54]>> Mhm.

[01:08:55]>> You know what I'm saying? So like those kids are going to have trauma, >> you know? So like I'm not I'm not really looking at her as a good woman.

[01:09:06]>> Well, you you know the the thing is she could be a good woman, but it depends like like I was saying, what's your what's your overall goal? does that does a woman like that fit into your long-term or your short-term goals?

[01:09:21]And like I I couldn't see a person like that fitting into my goals because it's too many distractions in that, you know, I just wouldn't be able to step into it.

[01:09:33]And I told a young friend of mine, like a niece, and I said, "Look, I can help you if you're poor, but I can't help you if you make poor decisions." Like I just poor if you if you make poor decisions there. No matter how much someone helps you, you're going to always be in the same place. I was like, so yeah, I can help somebody that's poor. I can't help I can't help a person that made poor decisions. And and and I would say this, my uncle is on his fourth marriage, and I told him, "Yo, man, yo, dog, the fourth one, I'm like, yo, it's it's not them, it's you." And so, right, but in his mind, if the relationship is serious, he it has to be it has to lead to marriage. It has to be he has to be married. And so, for me, a woman that has three kids by three different dudes. She just took every every uh serious relationship. Like my uncle looks at it by marriage, looking at it like, well, if I love him, I'm gonna have a kid by him. which I which I personally feel as though is a flawed is a flawed um strategy to live your life by. But okay, you got to deal with the you got to deal with the results of that. You know, you can't say, well, hey, I'm a good woman. Why do why why doesn't a a high value man or a very productive man want to deal with, >> you know, but you made those choices already based upon, you know, you know, how you look at relationship. Maybe you feel like I love him, you know? Maybe he's just one of them people you just in love with everybody you, you know, you get in a serious relationship with.

[01:11:09]>> That's true.

[01:11:09]>> And you, you know, and you don't think about contraception. If I get if I'm I'm pregnant, like, oh, hell no.

[01:11:16]>> And another thing, another crazy thing about it is that we don't talk about too is um the woman could have Well, first of all, she's a female to me. So, the female could have um she's not in that divine realm, divine mindset, um divine spirituality.

[01:11:34]>> She could have got these three different guys for stability. For leverage, >> I was going to say that.

[01:11:42]>> You know, stability.

[01:11:43]>> For stability, for leverage. So, not necessarily, oh, I love him. Let's have a kid. No, I It didn't work out. Oh, I love him now. Let's have a kid. It didn't work out. The third guy, it's going to be it. Third time's a charm.

[01:11:57]Oh, I love him. Let's have a kid. You know, it could be, oh, he was a balleroon stability. It could be that.

[01:12:05]It could then at the end of the day, she could separate from all of them, not have relationships, and then that's three different sets of income coming in for child support, >> right? All right. You could do that, right?

[01:12:18]>> Mhm.

[01:12:19]>> Yes. So, you know, like it's it's crazy.

[01:12:23]It's crazy that it is crazy.

[01:12:25]>> It is crazy. But but the but you're right. As a man wanting to step into a to put your life and someone else's life together, it's like there there's a lot of moving parts with with that situation. You know, even if the kids are in high school or or going to college, like there's still a whole another level of financial support. And what does that look like? again, >> you know, are you now going to pack up the car and drive the kids to school or what that look, you know, what what does all that look like? And it sounds like >> a little bit much to be, you know, fighting the fight out here and then having to add that to your >> your vest. It doesn't sound like a smart >> because now now you could potentially be the fourth >> Yeah.

[01:13:08]>> fourth guy >> 100%.

[01:13:10]>> You know what I'm saying? And then like four kids. So if you want to if you want to build with her and have longterm any any man is going to want to adopt those kids too and be like they're mine.

[01:13:25]>> So how would that how would that farewell with the other um um fathers if they're still alive?

[01:13:33]>> If they're still alive, you know what I'm saying? Same same um same state, not in a different country, different state.

[01:13:39]>> And an active >> and an active father. How would that farewell? It's not. I'm I'm I'm stating rhetorical questions. It's not. An active father is not going to farewell with him.

[01:13:48]>> I don't think that that by law you could do that.

[01:13:50]>> Cuz also also another thing is too, right? What if what if there there's so much with this, but we're going to end with this last one and then do our final thoughts.

[01:13:59]>> Okay.

[01:14:00]>> Three one out of three of them could still be in love with her.

[01:14:04]>> Absolutely.

[01:14:06]>> One out of three of them could still be in love with the other two of like, nah, [ __ ] that [ __ ] Whatever. We co-parent.

[01:14:12]I got I got a new chick. The one the one guy >> want to hit it though.

[01:14:17]>> Yeah. Yeah. See, >> two out of the three are hit it though.

[01:14:21]>> Yes. You know what I'm saying? And it's like it it's like it's so it's so complicated to get in a c situation like that.

[01:14:29]>> I believe so. It's like the best thing would be to reject her. Like maybe maybe she is a good woman and you keep it that way, but that shouldn't be the catalyst of of getting with her.

[01:14:41]>> Yeah, I agree.

[01:14:41]>> Because her situation is is not like even if she's saying, "Oh, they're they're good. They got their father.

[01:14:49]Don't worry about them." She don't know men. She don't know how another man is going to feel. He feel threatened. Yeah, you say that, but he didn't see me. He don't know how I look. He don't know what I do. The fact that he knows I'm doing more for his kid than him could make him feel a type of way. Now he wants to be active. So many things can play a role in that. And I think the man should just go with his instinct and be like, "Nah, I'm not I'm not getting in that situation."

[01:15:22]Um, so final thoughts, anything you want to say? Food for thought.

[01:15:29]Uh my food for thought on uh number one, thank you for having me. Um I love you guys. I love listening to you guys and I love the fact that you bring um you know the the mental and spiritual aspect to it because a lot of people are only talking about the problem.

[01:15:49]Everybody talking about what's wrong, what's wrong, what's wrong. No one's actually speaking to your core wiring and the way you the way you're you're looking your view of life is limited. So you can't really see and you're caught in that trap of all the things that we're saying. So I appreciate you know you guys perspectives on uh on topics.

[01:16:10]And lastly, I would say uh men, we need to talk to one another about men having a focus and knowing what they want out of life so they don't uh involve themselves in um wasting time with with certain relationships that are just dead in the streets.

[01:16:28]>> Nice. Cool.

[01:16:30]>> Um well, I want to thank you for coming on the show again. Uh you always have some great, you know, views. Um so, thank you. Also, my final thoughts for does a woman's level of physical attractiveness affect her behavior and potential for status? And I believe so.

[01:16:49]And I don't think that it's anything new. Like, if you think back to like, you know, the Renaissance ages or when there was kinks and stuff, the families, you know, the more prettier a girl was, the bigger chances that she would get noticed and then they would that would favor the whole family would rise from that. So, I think it's something, you know, it's not new. It's something that has been um pushed on females for a long time.

[01:17:16]>> Um yeah, we I agree with you guys. Um first and foremost, I want to thank um Inc. again for coming on the show. Um really appreciate you. Really appreciate your insight. Um and second I want to say um I believe it does affect the women's behavior and potential for status because we as a society give them that power >> whether it's beta male Sims menas um it's it's it's oh was the prettiest daughter >> the prettiest daughter so the father treated her better than the other daughters or the grandfather or the uncle it's society it's like even royal families amilies, >> royal families, like the the the the princess. I definitely think so.

[01:18:09]>> And it starts when you're young, right?

[01:18:12]It's um you have a sense of entitlement.

[01:18:14]So now that sense of entitlement, you go out there and you might be nasty.

[01:18:20]>> You might not have Yeah. You might not have character. You might think, "Well, now when you get older?" Nah, [ __ ] always um paid me. They let me drive in their Ferraris. What you talking about?

[01:18:30]I got to earn [ __ ] I got to earn you.

[01:18:33]Nah, you got to earn me.

[01:18:35]>> We don't got to earn each other. We don't got to earn each other. You talking about trust, respect, and stuff of that nature. No, no, no. You should be lucky to be So all of that behavior, that toxic behavior, that entitlement, that that status. Look how many people I got on on social media because I'm gorgeous. Oh, when I go out in public, I'm this. All the people in my DM because of that. It's what society does, you know? Like, if we don't starve this and we don't start treating these people like regular people, then we're always going to be in this realm and those females will always move in society and think like that.

[01:19:18]>> You know what I'm saying? Like we got to start normalizing, yo, we bleed the same color.

[01:19:25]>> You know what I'm saying? We we we are we we are humans and we should treat human beings like human beings. Like you see a human being in them >> when you're looking at it. And I think that's where we get out of that sense and we look at someone who is gorgeous to automatically think we had an episode like this >> that they have good morals, >> right? They have good values and it's like, oh, love at first sight. Oh, they they deserve to meet my family and my mom and all this. But you don't know them inside. You don't know based off their their their beauty how their character is, >> right?

[01:20:02]>> You know what I mean? So, you automatically think beautiful people >> are not liars. M >> beautiful people tell the truth because they have like a um a seductive hypnot hypnotism and mechan magnetic uh aura to them that damn what if they said eat [ __ ] on a stick >> that [ __ ] nasty but I would do it with salt it's it's believable because they're gorgeous we got to stop I think this is the the situation we get in when we have this topic of the physical attractiveness affect affecting their behavior and potential for status is true. It affects their behavior, I think, in a negative way. It's very rare to see those beautiful, gorgeous women body and face where they're still modest and humble.

[01:20:52]>> You know what I'm saying? Where they look at themselves and like, "Oh, am I pretty today?" They they might get that insecurity, but where do they go for the validation to realize, "Yeah, I'm the [ __ ] again." Society.

[01:21:05]>> You know what I'm saying? So naturally, maybe they don't feel like they're beautiful, but they naturally just look, oh, I'm I'm regular. I'm this girl.

[01:21:13]What? What? Like, look at you. You're gorgeous. Like, don't talk to yourself like that.

[01:21:18]>> Then, you know, that's the humbleness.

[01:21:20]But but that's be that goes from if they think like that, that goes from their upbringing. That goes from the their the parenting that that that came with that, you know, that that that's teaching them those values. for them to be modest and um you know, for them to not walk out in entitled and to feel like I got to earn my spot. I got to earn my value versus them walking out automatically thinking they do.

[01:21:47]>> They have value and stuff of that nature. And it's like they're basing their value off superficialities. Like I don't know who you are, but you're telling me you're a social media influencer?

[01:21:58]What is But I don't know you though for for real life. Nobody does, >> but you're a social media influencer.

[01:22:06]>> Yeah.

[01:22:06]>> You know what I'm saying? So, >> I think um it's good to have these type of conversations.

[01:22:11]>> Yes.

[01:22:12]>> Um but thank you once again. Um and ladies and gentlemen, once again, you are tuned in to the most raw, uncut, unapologetic, real, no holds barred, the Discipline Deb podcast. Peace.