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[00:00:00]done today. There's still a bit of an onshore breeze across the very far coast, but just anywhere in land, temperatures climbing back into the 20s, if not the 30s. Highs of 33 degrees are expected across the London area through Thursday. Elsewhere, another very hot one. A mild night to come into Friday morning, but then there's a change into breezy conditions, particularly across the Northwest with an increased risk of rain. But it does remain warm in the southeast until Sunday. Bye-bye.

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[00:02:42]>> I've been in Westminster for a long time, but I know that though power may be here, its effect on people's lives is across the whole of the country. We may be where rules are made, but it's where they're implemented that matters. Join me, Jacob Reesemog, for forthright and frank discussion on where Britain has come from, where it's going, and where it will end up. That's State of the Nation. Monday to Thursday 8 to 9:00.

[00:03:09]Vox popularly vog day.

[00:03:12]>> B. They are under no illusion.

[00:03:14]>> Ray, are you a human trafficker?

[00:03:16]>> Boundless. I've had enough of the nonsense and I'm not afraid to say it.

[00:03:20]>> Don't get us on the BBC.

[00:03:22]>> Every week night, I tear through the headlines.

[00:03:24]>> The smell of gasoline. Should we be worried about it?

[00:03:27]>> From Westminster madness to cultural war chaos. Going to do now. They are throwing things out the cars. Get ready Britain. Here we go. Patrick Christie tonight, week nights from 9:00 p.m. only on GB News, Britain's News Channel on the show.

[00:03:54]>> Our welfare state is trapping people not just in poverty, but out of work.

[00:04:02]Confirmation of what most of us already knew. A 100,000 young people choosing benefits over work. Is it a coincidence?

[00:04:10]Do you think that this is the cohort who were introduced to a very generous government and raised on furlow? Also tonight on the hottest week of the year, Chem Bnock has U-turned on banning air conditioning in new homes. Who do you trust to let you keep your home hot or cold? Also tonight, would reform let migrants live in council houses? It's an issue which has caused a public spat between Robert Generick and my guest tonight, Zia Ysef. How can you trust reform if they can't even agree amongst themselves on an issue like this? And the government has published their list of 125 what they're calling everyday essentials that will cost less under new proposed tariff cuts. But don't British producers need help more than those importing goods into our country.

[00:05:08]And as well as Zia, this evening I'm going to be joined by former Conservative Minister uh Michelle Donan.

[00:05:14]We have got a huge amount to talk about.

[00:05:16]First though, let's get your very latest news headlines.

[00:05:26]Good evening. It's 1 minute past 6. I'm Katie Bowen in the GB Newsroom.

[00:05:30]President Trump says a deal with Iran is not there yet, adding he is not currently satisfied with it. In remarks at a cabinet meeting today, the US president said Iran is intent on a deal and that if an agreement is not reached, he may just have to finish the job.

[00:05:46]Earlier, Iranian media is was reporting that Iran had seen a quote initial unofficial draft of the deal with the US, although the White House said it was a complete fabrication. Here's what President Trump had to say.

[00:05:59]>> Iran is very much uh intent. They want very much to make a deal. So far, they haven't gotten there. We're not satisfied with it, but we will be. We will be either that or we'll have to just finish the job.

[00:06:12]But uh their Navy is gone. As I've said a thousand times, their Navy is gone.

[00:06:16]Their air force is gone. Everything's gone. And they're negotiating on fumes.

[00:06:23]In other news, resident doctors will strike from the 15th to the 19th of June as part of their longunning dispute with the government over pay. The BMA announced the strike dates and said that there could be more to come in July, saying the new health secretary, James Murray, had not improved the government's offer. Chair of the resident doctor's committee, Dr. Jack Fletcher says the government is still vague on new jobs and there is no further money on the table. James Murray has responded saying the door is still open to working with the BMA.

[00:06:54]>> Really disappointed that the BMA resident doctor's committee have called a strike uh which is unnecessary and totally avoidable. Um, I met with the, uh, BMA committee, um, earlier today as a new health secretary. Uh, and I made clear that to them that I, my door was open to working with them when it comes to job progression, when it comes to working conditions, training opportunities. What I did make clear to them though was that when it comes to pay, the offer on the table is a really good one.

[00:07:22]Migrants who arrived in small boats during sunny conditions over the bank holiday weekend have been charged with illegal immigration offenses. Three men have been prosecuted for arriving in the UK without entry clearance and another three have been charged with endangering the lives of others during a sea crossing and have and have been remanded in custody. Sarah Dinley from the Crown Prosecution Service said many of the cases were charged within hours over the weekend which meant defendants were brought before court within days of arriving in the UK.

[00:07:54]Nine people have died in water related incidents in the UK over the recent heat wave. Earlier, a 12-year-old boy who died after getting into trouble in the River Ribble at Ribchester on Tuesday has been named as Junior Slater, according to Lanasher Police. At least seven young people have died in the water, and a man in his 60s and a woman in her 70s have also died in other incidents.

[00:08:20]And household energy prices will rise by 13% a year in July as soaring wholesale costs driven by the conflict in the Middle East begins to hit bills. Offjem says a household using a typical amount of gas and electric will pay £221 more a year. The jump will equate to a rise of £18 a month for the average household.

[00:08:41]The energy cap covers 33 million households in England, Wales, and Scotland.

[00:08:49]Those are your latest GB News headlines.

[00:08:51]Now it's back to Beth.

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[00:09:13]Very good evening. Welcome to Jubes and Co. It's me, Bev Turner, with you this week while Michelle is on her holiday and I'm spending a little bit of time back here in the UK. Joining me tonight until 7:00, my panel, former Conservative Minister Michelle Donan is here and Reform UK home affairs spokesperson Zia Yousef. Now, before we get to 7:00 tonight, we're going to go through the list of items that the government considers to be essential.

[00:09:37]And this is uh a list of goods that basically they're going to reduce the tariffs on so that they are cheaper for you when you go shopping. Sounds like a great idea. But that includes things like frozen olives, couscous, uh figs, gingerbread. I mean, we've all seen this list. It's extremely random, isn't it?

[00:09:56]>> Well, it just shows how outrageously out of touch they are. I didn't even know frozen olives was a thing. Um, and there's something else I had to Google, which is I don't know if I'm pronouncing this right. Fonio.

[00:10:07]>> Fio.

[00:10:08]>> Well, exactly. Who eats that? It's not essential food. There's some things on here.

[00:10:12]>> Contains are on here. dried apples.

[00:10:14]Anyway, the the list is extremely strange, but I would like you to get in touch with me before the end of the show and tell me what you would deem to be your essential items if the government really had your best interest at heart.

[00:10:24]What are those items that you are in your shopping bag every week and that you can't live without? Let me know.

[00:10:31]your say, but we will get to that in just a moment because a shocking new report, some might say it's shocking, I think it was always inevitable, has found that over a 100,000 young people are stuck on benefits. There are thousands of young adults aged 25 and under who've claimed universal credit every month since the age of 18, which is roughly equivalent to a town the size of Lincoln. Tony Blair has upset everyone in the Labour Party today and highlighted how many people have become dependent on the welfare system, especially young people. The Prime Minister K Star Dmer has promised to reform the current welfare system and blamed the tourists. Have a listen.

[00:11:13]>> We are reforming it to improve it. And what did they do when we put that forward? They voted to keep the same broken welfare system.

[00:11:24]>> Michelle, what's gone wrong here? Is it the fault of the conservatives? I can't help thinking particularly these 18 to 25 year olds would have been ages 12 to 18 when the so-called pandemic happened and they saw people in their family probably had never been given money by the government suddenly were given handouts beyond their wildest dreams and I think it created a culture where people wait for the government to give them some money rather than go and get a job. So I actually think the reason um is quite clearcut. If we look at what this government have been doing to businesses, they've literally been strangling them with additional regulation, with additional taxation. If you look at the NI tax, it's just been unaffordable for businesses to take on new hires, especially young people, because they involve more time and more money in terms of training and investment. And I've been speaking to a number of businesses who have just been saying that we just cannot afford it.

[00:12:19]And therefore you're seeing the ramification of this really saddening result. And also don't forget you this report is going to say that 25 times more money has been spent on benefits then on support getting these people into jobs. So what hope did they have if the state was pushing them towards benefits rather than pushing them into jobs? But then we've all been in places recently. I mean, I was in a pub last night when I went home from here. And my other half and I went and got a glass of wine and a bowl of pasta or something.

[00:12:49]There was no staff in this restaurant and the manager was saying to me, "I'm so sorry the service is bad. I can't find anybody to come and work here." So, the kids are out there. They just don't want to do the jobs here.

[00:13:00]>> Well, I think there's a few things that have happened. I mean, number one, incentives in this entire country have been broken now for decades, right? I mean, it's pretty elementary. a 16-year-old studying economics would understand that if you keep taxing work more, um you're going to get less work.

[00:13:13]If you keep taxing businesses for employing people more, then they're going to employ fewer people. And if you incentivize not working, which has happened, it's so insane now that the uh CSJ, a think tank, published a report that basically showed that if in a household um the members of that household tick every single universal credit box and get all the forms of welfare welfare, they materially out earn the household income is materially more than the post tax household income of uh of somebody working minimum wage full-time, which begs the question, why?

[00:13:44]So suddenly the economically optimal thing is to not work obviously and we hear this on the doorstep all the time people saying on an estate saying pointing at a house across the road often the front garden is in in in a right state and they say that they have a much better lifestyle than me they don't work and I am being taxed up to the eyeballs and look you can look at the tax threshold we talk about this we only government only ever talk the tries and labor they've just held these 20 grand and the 40 grand um tax threshold while inflation has been going bananas And so people I think are rightly now sick and tired of uh of of being taxed up to their eyeballs to pay for people.

[00:14:21]Many of whom, not all of them, but there are many who it is a lifestyle choice.

[00:14:25]And I would also say that that was a big part of why we announced last week, for example, as as a number of measures we will announce to reward people who I think are the backbone of of this country who who work for example overtime to basically say income tax will be zero.

[00:14:40]>> Well, that's a that's that's a Trump policy. Of course you've stolen that from America. Not saying it's a bad thing. That was something on tips and for a specific >> and overtime as well in in the US.

[00:14:50]They're doing something very similar on overtime. But I think what you've just said then this has been a long-term culture this malaise that was on your watch then Michelle.

[00:14:59]>> So I'm not denying that mistakes were were made. So I completely agree with Zia like we we made a massive mistake and one that I argued uh to change while I was in. we should have raised those income tax thresholds when we had the opportunity to do so and um that has embedded in a bit of this problem that we've got now. However, this government have supersized it and that's undeniable when you look at what they've been doing to businesses both from a regulation point of view and a taxation point of view. So, you got the double whammy strangling them and a lot of businesses now almost say it's it's almost becoming unaffordable to operate in the UK and then we wonder why they're not hiring people. But if we look at how these youngsters specifically because the issues about companies not being able to employ anybody that can that can apply to any age group but you've got 1 million Brits now aged 16 to 24 who are not in employment education or training.

[00:15:54]Something has gone horribly horribly wrong culturally. What is what is it Z?

[00:15:59]Well, look, it's there are so many things. We're not going to be able to cover all of it on the program, but we could start with, you know, a lot of these people are graduates and would totally missold their degree. I mean, again, the conversation we have in politics is about the student loan problem. Yeah, that's a problem. The student loans, people are being overcharged relative to what they expected when they took the loan out.

[00:16:15]But it's also a huge problem that frankly a lot of these courses, not all of them, a lot of them are basically scams, >> right? Um, and if it was a company misselling like that, then the chief executives would probably be in jail for fraud by now because a lot of those people doing those degrees um, took those loans out expecting to get a well- paid job above and beyond what you would get as a non-graduate and that is demonstrably not the case for many universities in this country. That would be one. Number two, we got to talk about mass immigration too because uh, you know, my first job was on uh, minimum wage, right? And it wasn't because I wanted to earn whatever it was 3 pound20 an hour for the rest of my life, but it was my foothold in the world of work. I start working in a in a in a small chemist on on a Saturday and when you look at those entry- level jobs now as you just said um you know to the degree there are people working in these restaurants pubs many of them are coming from overseas and you know we and and that has fueled this problem so you've massively incentivized welfare um for and disincentivized work um those entry level jobs especially those summer jobs those catering those are all um on the way >> we can then talk about the co response in lots of different ways I mean the high streets have not been the same. The hospitality industry has not been the same. Obviously as you said just culturally this idea of furow where obviously some of that was necessary I get that but the extent to which it went on um and as has also been pointed out a lot of young people who went to university at that time did so fully remotely. So there are so many issues but I we got to go back to what can we do about it now and what we need to do now is we need to change the incentives.

[00:17:43]We got to bring tax down. We've got to make welfare less attractive, frankly.

[00:17:47]>> Cuz you were in charge of universities, Michelle, weren't you, during that, was it 2020 to 22 or something? I'm >> testing my knowledge of my exact years, but during some of the pandemic.

[00:17:56]>> During some of the pandemic when when you were in charge of those universities and did you do you look back now and think that was this this is the cost of we're paying the price now. So the in fact there's so many of those teenagers didn't get to go to university at all.

[00:18:14]>> So my goal throughout that period was always to try and get them back as quickly as we possibly could. Obviously I wasn't setting the the regulations when we're having lockdown but in a safe way. Um and we tried to facilitate that and sometimes we did phasing and we we supported universities and then we called out I I named and shamed universities when some of them were a bit slow to actually get them back when the rules were allowing them to.

[00:18:35]>> I personally don't think that these figures correlate entirely. I'm sure there is a little bit of correlation, but I think it's it's deeper in relation to um issues with a benefits culture, issues with us promoting benefits in this country. I do think the fact that it's now so expensive to operate as a business in this country makes an impact because you say, well, that could affect all employment, but young people, it's a more expensive bet if you like when you hire a young person because you've got to train them, you've got to invest a time in them, etc. Um, and therefore there's the big disincentive to take that gamble unfortunately and young people are paying that price. And the other thing we need to do is reexamine our skills approach in the UK because we are fast moving into this AI age and we're lagging so behind other countries.

[00:19:22]If you look at like a number of countries in the Middle East now have AI as a core part of the curriculum. we're not um doing enough in terms of our application of knowledge to develop skills that will be needed in an AI age.

[00:19:35]So there's lots of things that we need to do to futureproof our economy.

[00:19:39]>> This the the issue of AI Zia, it literally I think it keeps me awake at night this because I am seeing white collar jobs disappearing. We've all seen it before our very eyes and those will often have been the degrees that some of these young people have have gone for.

[00:19:54]Where where do you sit on the whole AI debate and how on earth if reform get voted in, how are you going to employ people in the future?

[00:20:04]>> Well, it remains to be seen how quickly uh everyone's going to adjust to what's happening in AI. And what's interesting is if you look at how fast the most advanced AI models coming out of the American labs have progressed beyond the ways in which they are currently being used, I think there's now actually quite a big gap. And so what that tells you is either we can be a bit more relaxed about it and you know it's not going to impact things as much or the opposite in which case there will suddenly just be you've seen some of the big American companies announcing um large layoffs and pointing to AI. You've had some big companies in the UK too accounting firms. Now again you can debate well that's what maybe what CEOs would say and shareholders like to hear that but here's what we do know. um the most advanced AIs now can absolutely replace significant segments of white collar jobs >> and bringing it back to what we talked about with young people when I think about I was quite lucky I was very lucky I got a good degree from a great British university and then I worked in the city and I got to learn from amazing people and they took bets on me and I was in meetings I was like why why am I in this meeting this is amazing um and I worry now that a lot of the job functions I was doing then >> chiept can do those things and they can graphs, it can make charts. And so the problem, as you've just mentioned, AI makes all of the things we're talking about even more acute. I would say the most important things a government can do because the government can't solve all of these problems. But number one, we got to give Britain every chance of getting the benefits of AI without the downsides. At the moment, every possible government decision from our mad energy policies, which again started on the tour, is giving us the most expensive energy in the world. AI energy is what fuels those data centers. Number two, we have no what we call sovereign computational power. Meaning these big data centers, there's very little of it under our control, which frankly if the American uh if if if the White House just decided we don't want um Britain to have access or anyone else other than Americans to have access to the leading AI models, which has already happened with with one anthropic model, the first sign of it, >> we have nothing. Yeah.

[00:22:01]>> And if we don't start tapping into this huge well of reserves that we have of AI talent, which we do by the way, some of the best AI talent in the world, then we are selling um we are selling this country short. And in terms of the workforce and how we solve the jobs, what the government has got to do to to has always been said, get out of the way of business. Got to deregulate. Um we've got to cut taxes.

[00:22:22]>> I keep coming back. I come back to it time and time again. I regularly post it on my ex account was this speech that Matt Hancock gave in 2017 when he was introducing I know that's my bedtime reading material Michelle uh 2017 he was introducing Claus Schwab onto the stage of a W event and he said if you don't like change I've not got any good news for you you better take up a hobby effectively said you're going to have so much leisure time once AI takes over that was nearly 10 years ago there were people at the top of this country knew this was coming and yet I feel like we've got no industrial strategy where are the jobs of the future for these kids and everyone else.

[00:22:56]>> Yeah. And and it's bigger than that because actually we will stunt ourselves in terms of the AI race because AI is going to create new jobs, ones that we can't even imagine. And unless we've got people with the the skills and and the flexibility to go into those new jobs and the system in place to reskill and upskill, then we're not we're going to hit a sort of ceiling um and we won't be able to progress and we won't actually get the true dividends. So, this is a bit of an emergency. We can't we can't keep up with it quick enough though to find jobs for these kids.

[00:23:24]>> Well, you just used a very important uh words there which you just said industrial strategy. Yeah.

[00:23:29]>> And we're firm about this. Britain needs an industrial strategy. Now the tries don't think we need a you know chemy's come out and started attacking us for saying that we this country needs an industrial strategy. Americans >> the Americans certainly have an industrial strategy. So when we came out and we said well we've got this company Rolls-Royce here that make not only aerospace engines but they make these small modular nuclear reactors. Why are we not making this a national champion giving them huge contracts to generate base load power, solve lots of different problems at once, create lots of shareholder value and maybe the taxpayer should participate in that and we were roundly attacked for that. But actually, if we do not take a view as to what we want the British economy to look like in 10 years time, it's not going to happen on its own. And one of the biggest problems we have going back to the jobs thing is we have nowhere near enough engineers to build all of the things that we want to build. And this is one of the reasons Britain doesn't build anything and why we have the power situation we're in. I mean, one of the headlines in the news again was because of a foreign war, energy prices going to go up. How many years of tens of billions of pounds of investment in net zero where we always keep hearing the jam is coming tomorrow and this isn't going to happen. The fact of the matter is we need a proper industrial strategy that leans into this country's rents.

[00:24:33]>> Um Michelle, last word for you before we go on. Do you feel optimistic about the future for these kids who are languishing on social credit at the moment? So I think that a lot needs to change both in terms of the incentives that we're providing and the support that we're providing. But I think the bigger problem is what we've just touched on a moment ago that actually we need to be reforming our skills and education system so it is fit for the purpose for an AI age and otherwise we're going to have so many missed opportunities and to touch on this industrial strategy point of view. Um like I'm not disputing that that might be useful but we do have to be careful to just reach for the strategy as the panacea. Now I saw that in my government. I almost got to the point in departments where I was like, we're banning strategies. They chew up so much civil servant time. Civil servants view it as job done. We've done a strategy.

[00:25:16]Yeah. It's actual action and results.

[00:25:19]That's what what the British public need.

[00:25:21]>> Yeah. You at home, you've been saying Sandy says Labor have always encouraged a life on benefits as a matter of controlling the people. Now they found out it is unaffordable. I think you'll find the vast majority of these young folk are from families that do not work.

[00:25:33]A lot of them probably never went to school uh half the time. Brad says, "A lot of British people gave up when they see people walking into this country getting everything for free and they feel they've got nothing and they still get nothing from this government. Keep your messages coming in, won't you?" The Department for Work and Pensions have said in this uh regard, Universal Credit is available both in and out of work.

[00:25:54]So, a claimant currently out of work who's been on Universal Credit for several years has not necessarily been out of work the entire time. We inherited a broken welfare system with the number of young people locked out of opportunity, work, and education rising by 250,000 before summer 2024.

[00:26:14]And Manny, hello Manny, a GB News member says, "We were brought up to take any job to earn a living. The young of today want to be influencers, whatever that is." Right. Coming up still this evening on the hottest week of the year, Kem Bay U-turned on banning air conditioning in new homes. Who do you trust of all our big parties to let you keep your own home hot or cold depending on what you want? Stay with me.

[00:26:48]>> B, they are under no illusion.

[00:26:50]>> Ray, are you a human trafficker?

[00:26:52]>> Boundless. I've had enough of the nonsense and I'm not afraid to say it.

[00:26:56]>> Don't get us on the BBC. Every week night I tear through the headlines.

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[00:29:53]>> Welcome back to Stew and Co. with me Bev Turner. This week, while Michelle is on her holidays, keeping me company until 7:00. Former Conservative Minister Michelle Donan is here. And Reform UK Home Affairs spokesperson Zia Yousef.

[00:30:05]Now, you may noticed it's quite hot at the moment, isn't it? And it may have got you thinking about whether you'd like air conditioning in your homes.

[00:30:12]Well, 5 years ago, Robert Generick, when he was in the Conservative Party, banned the installation of air conditioning in brand new houses because of the drive for net zero. But guess what? Chem BNO has today announced a U-turn on that.

[00:30:24]And she did it on the hottest day of the year. I don't think that's a coincidence. Now, just last week, a government advisory body recommended measures to help us cope in these what I would consider wonderful new temperatures, including mandating maximum temperature limits in the workplace, which will be frankly impossible if you are also pursuing net zero because we just won't be able to power our homes to be cold. Let's remind ourselves what K star thinks about this.

[00:30:53]net zero by 2040 across England and Wales is it's tough, but it's right. So, the UK is doubling down on the fight against climate change as an investment in future generations. Yes, of course, >> but also crucially as an investment in improving the lives of working people here and now. New solar projects, new offshore wind projects, the onshore ban lifted, great British energy launched.

[00:31:26]>> So, which government would allow you to keep your home at the temperature of your choosing? Z Yousef can't even believe we're asking that question. It should not be up to the government whether I choose to have air conditioning in my home or have a wood burning fire or I'm able to turn on the heating on a cold day.

[00:31:45]>> It's all complete madness. complete madness. Um the idea that government have any business exactly as you said, why can't you air condition your home?

[00:31:54]Um it's utterly utterly insane. And it also speaks to one of the I I would say creeping sense of nanny statism. You know, these are these are it's all down to virtue signalers um wanting to think that they're saving the planet. Even though, by the way, this country is less than 1% of global emissions. China is 30% and China is uh China pulled out what 4.6 6 billion tons of coal out of the ground. 4 imagine what 4.6 billion tons of coal looks like. That's how much they pulled out last year and it went up again. It goes up every year. Chinese coal production. So all um and the result of this of course is that people sit there sweltering. And now far from heeding the message that this is insane and they should stop. They're now trying to impose on as we were just saying a new regulation on employees to have maximum temperatures. Now in principle that sounds maybe that would be a sensible idea. We don't want people um melting at work, but as as you just pointed out, how on earth are you going to be able to keep an office um or any work environment, a restaurant at the right temperature if you can't um use air conditioning in the way that you need to? So, we have way too much regulation on building anything in this country, home building. I have spoken to a lot of uh home builders and the idea home builders don't want to build homes, which is often what you hear Labor and the left say, oh, it's the home builders not wanting to build homes, they're literally called home builders. Like, that's how they make money. they're kind of in the business literally of building homes. And one of the reasons is they say it's just it's the insane regulations. So you got the the social housing percentage that has to be in place. And then one of them was telling me about this big development. They got all the way to the finish line except for one thing and then at the last minute they said, "Oh, you've also got to have a GP surgery." So they wrote to the NHS to get the spec of the GP surgery that took another year and in the end they sheld the whole thing because it just became too expensive.

[00:33:34]>> How many and this is why we don't build again not just homes, we don't build anything. We when I when I say we got to deregulate, we got to allow British people, as long as you're not harming somebody else, um you've just got to let them live their lives. And if the government spent half as much time and energy um actually securing our borders and deporting people who are here illegally or arresting shoplifterss, well, certainly reform would not be where they are in the polls and certainly the government of the day. I mean, the Tories would still be in power with a walloping majority um if if they had implemented these policies. And what do you think about the fact that Robert Generick, who's now working with Zia, was in your party saying that air conditioning houses was was a terrible idea. I'm sure he doesn't think that anymore, but we'll come on to him in a minute. But now Kem Bay is saying that actually the Conservatives would now allow people to You can see why you can see why the the general public are going, I don't know what any of you stand for anymore. If you have a clear line of value system, I'll know how you are on this. But it feels like everyone is just flip-flopping around depending on who they want to vote for them.

[00:34:36]>> This is a bonkers policy. Full stop. I don't know what was going through Generate's head when he designed it at all. And it doesn't make any logical sense. You let's consider internationally 90% of Americans and Japanese have air conditioning. A quarter of the French have air conditioning. A fifth of the Germans have air conditioning. Why would we then say to the British public, "But I'm sorry, but you can't have it." Because to Zia's point, it were a tiny proportion of uh the impact. So, it makes no sense.

[00:35:03]>> But he was doing it, but Jeremy was doing it as part of the Conservatives because he was trying to save the planet. So, are we no longer trying to save the planet? I feel like we should have a conversation, a really frank conversation about whether we're trying to save the planet or not. Do we just >> So we when we were in office we we changed our we didn't obviously change this but we did change our stance to say actually hands up a lot of this stuff is a bit bonkers because of the impact it's having is so small and we got to be pragmatic. If we make these policies so expensive that people can't afford which is what's happening now under Milliband who's completely mad about it and blinkered then we're setting up our country to fail. We're going to damage growth. We're going to damage opportunities and that's not going to help anybody and it's really not going to help the planet at the end of the day.

[00:35:46]>> Well, we've signed up to these legal emissions targets, haven't we? Now, >> exactly. Always remember who who enshrined net zero into law. We shouldn't forget that, right? So, again, you know, the whole that they are the ultimate arsonist firefighters here. But to to speak to your question about, you know, should we be trying to save the planet with our energy policy? Britain's energy policy should be focused on one thing and that is making energy as cheap and abundant in this country. That is all we should be solving for, right? And the source of that energy we're pretty ambivalent about. You know, we're pretty flexible about that. Yeah, we're going to need to build a load. We want we'd love to get lots of nuclear going.

[00:36:18]Obviously, that takes a long time. It takes years to build. We should accelerate that. Obviously, nuclear has virtually no carbon emissions, so everybody wins. Um, but you know, if that means burning some hydrocarbons, yeah, we'll burn some hydrocarbons.

[00:36:29]Like, in the end, we have to focus on getting energy costs out. And by the way, all of the evidence shows as we start to do that, then actually emissions will start to trend lower um over time anyway. But while as I said, China is pulling 4 and a half billion tons of coal out of the ground. And yeah, look, they're doing lots of hydro and they're doing lots of solar and lots of renewables, too, but they're also still doing lots of oil and gas. They're doing lots of um new look at look at America. You know, one of the reasons why it's quite clear Trump is far less um is far less urgently trying to reopen the straight of all moves is because relatively speaking, America's relatively speaking in a pretty good place compared to Europe and China because um America's made itself um basically an energy exporter. If you look at how much um treasure Britain has on the issue, you look at North Sea oil.

[00:37:15]I mean again he's not wrong Trump when he says the energy policy pursued by the Tories and now obviously accelerated by Mad Ed Milliban is singularly the most spectacularly stupid uh own goal that any government has done in in decades.

[00:37:29]>> Yeah. Right. Thanks guys. Still to come this evening is Zia Ysef's party reform UK in the midst of a civil war? We're going to find out in just a minute. And do you consider uh dried papaya, quinoa, and avocados an essential food that you need to be a little cheaper in your shopping basket? Cuz the government do.

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[00:41:53]Welcome back. This is James and Co. with me Bev Turner this week while Michelle is on holiday. Keep me company until 7:00. Michelle Donan is here, former Conservative Minister and Zia Yousef, Reform UK Home Affairs spokesperson.

[00:42:05]Now, I was delighted when I heard that Zia Ysef was on the show tonight because like many of you, I've been dying to ask him about the rather public disagreement that you, Zia, had with your colleague, Robert Gener. Let us just remind ourselves what Robert Generick said on Sky News.

[00:42:22]>> Are you saying to me that someone a foreign person who is legally resident but lives in social housing will be deported under reform government just because of that? they live in social housing.

[00:42:35]>> Well, not exclusively because of that.

[00:42:37]>> Well, that's what you just said that that's what you agreed with.

[00:42:40]>> If they fail to meet our criteria because they're not in work or they're not working as many hours, not earning enough money, then they won't be able to renew their work visa because ILR won't exist and they'll be asked to leave.

[00:42:54]>> Obviously, this came as a bit of a surprise and Zia responded on X with this.

[00:43:00]So Zia, I can't see this now, but what did you what did you say? That's a long way from here. You basically said this isn't reform policy.

[00:43:09]He's wrong.

[00:43:11]>> Okay, we've got it here. Robert Jenner suggested foreign nationals and council housing would not automatically face deportation, but you Zia insisted anyone in taxpayer funded social housing would fail reforms, economic test, and be removed. So were you what did you wish to achieve with that ex calling out your colleague?

[00:43:31]>> What I was doing was clarifying what the reform policy was and >> should he not know that? Well, the thing that I was focused on was making sure I mean that tweet um when when I tweeted it had about seven and a half million views and often you look at things going on on social media and they don't really comment. But I think right now it is important that the electorate and voters uh know what our policy is and so that's >> important. Isn't it quite important also that your party members know what that policy is, your representatives?

[00:43:58]>> Yeah. Um to be fair, you know, I'm my brief is home affairs. Um his is the economy, right? Um, and so my job is to make sure that people know what our policy is. Uh, so that's what I did. So this whole civil war, I mean, I'm sorry that that's entirely confected. And if you actually just read what I put in the tweet, uh, it was not all I did was clarify what our position is. And one of the reasons this is actually really important. Again, it it's really is mind-blowing when you look at the numbers on this stuff. So one in 10 people living in social housing, it has a foreign national as the lead tenant.

[00:44:32]one in 10 and you look at and it could be more. Exactly.

[00:44:35]>> Yeah. Martin Dorney did some brilliant stats on this >> today. Let's just have a look at them here.

[00:44:40]>> Uh London 48% of uh tenant foreignb born tenants in social housing. London 48%, Birmingham 34, Leicester 45%. We were we were looking at this basically under reform UK that would mean based on 2021 stats that's this is a few years ago now as well nearly 3,000 tenants alone in three big cities that's London, Birmingham and Leicester >> would be turfed out of those ho houses to make way for Brit.

[00:45:11]>> It can't happen fast enough. That's exactly what I want.

[00:45:14]>> But the thing is it won't happen fast, will it? Cuz you're going to get tied up in all sorts of legal challenges. But you can't be learned helplessness. I'm sorry but >> parliament in this country is sovereign and I know that the reason the learned helplessness exists even in the media frankly and I'm I'm amazed I'm not a career politician. I've sort of come into this and I know I understand how the constitution works in this country and if you have the alignment of a prime minister who actually believes in this stuff or a majority of MPs who believe in this stuff and you write the right legislation and you pass that legislation not there is not a I don't care how activist uh the judge is it could be some uh sort of combination of Harriet Harmon and Tony Blair as as the judge and they would still not be able to strike that any of this down. In the end, it is insane and mind-boggling that British social housing is being given out to foreign nationals while our own veterans are are living in the streets in many cases. Young people, I think a third of our young adults now still live at home with their parents. Forget about buying a home. They can't even rent a home.

[00:46:08]>> They're the ones who haven't even got a job. We were just talking about them before the break, but Home Office Minister Mike Tatm Michelle has said that reform making it up as they go along. Is that what you hear when you listen to Zia?

[00:46:17]>> No. So I think um I agree with Zia's passion around the importance of tackling this issue, but I think that it's oversimplifying it to just say, "Oh, no, I was just clarifying it."

[00:46:27]Because the tone of your tweet was Robert is wrong, which to me and to to everybody else that's read it does indicate that there is some kind of infighting going on. And look, the Tories were known for their infighting, but at least we did it when we were in office and it took a few years. We weren't doing it before we even won power. Um, and you know, if I can give one lesson, it would be that um, for for my party, we lost the the trust of the British public because they didn't believe what what we said we were going to do, we were actually going to do.

[00:46:57]It's very hard if you're all saying different things for people to believe that you're going to do what you're going to do.

[00:47:03]>> I I think it's actually the opposite. I think it's actually really, which is why I did the tweet, um, is because I think it's really important people understand where we stand on these issues. And again, so when you say, "Yeah, that would mean thousands of people are not not only not going to get to live in count taxpayer funded accommodation anymore, they'd be asked to leave the country because they're clearly not adding anything. They're clearly a drain on the taxpayer." Our position is yes, absolutely. That's crystal clear about our policies. I think it would be worse.

[00:47:28]And again, it's think about how many times any of us have to go on TV and talk about um you know, any number of issues. The point of the tweet and the point of what I'm saying now is this. If we win the next general election and Nigel's our prime minister, British social housing will be for British people full stop.

[00:47:45]>> Did you tell Robert Generick you were going to correct him on X before you did?

[00:47:49]>> I speak to Robert all the time, but I don't run my tweets by him before I before I tweet.

[00:47:53]>> Did he ring you up and go, "Mate, what have you just done? You've made me look like a wally on Twitter."

[00:47:57]>> No, because again, the whole the whole spat narrative is entirely convected by the press. And I think if you actually read what I tweeted out, uh I don't think there's any actual justification for it.

[00:48:09]>> Okay. Um right, let me know what you think at home. We are also going to be talking about these everyday essential items. Just to remind you, I want you to tell me what you think your essential items every day would be. The government has published their list of 125 of them.

[00:48:25]They're going to cost less. Good news, right? under proposed tariff cuts. They include limes, uh green tea, uh olive oil. Admittedly, that could be an a daily essential. Um this is like your shopping list this year, Yousef. Candied fruit, jams and marmalades, preserved citrus fruits, tomato ketchup. Yeah, fair enough. Um crisps. It's not very healthy either, is it, Michelle?

[00:48:51]>> No, I think some of this does fuel an obesity crisis. you. There was something like um items that help produce chocolate flavored drinks. I like that's not an essential or healthy.

[00:49:00]>> Very mixed messages from this government. What do you stand for? We'll carry that on after the break. Don't go anywhere.

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[00:50:44]>> You mean the boys have been working for this since November. So it really is a long journey.

[00:50:49]>> So you were in the exalted footsteps of the one of the greatest debaters of all time, Sir Winston Churchill. Did that make you feel very proud, >> Josh? Yeah, I mean it's incredible. It's one it's the oldest and most prestigious debating competition in the entirety of the UK. Just listening actively and dissecting the arguments and working together as a team to reject those and counteract them is the most important part of it. I think >> not even just like listening to your opposition, but also like listening to your teammates to ensure that you're not like stepping on their toes with your arguments. Like you really need to work together to build a strong foundation.

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[00:52:53]Welcome back to News and Co. with me Bev Turner with you until 7:00. Michelle Donan and Zia Ysef are still here with me. Now, in an era where President Trump is putting tariffs on imports to protect American companies, we are apparently about to do the opposite, reducing tariffs on key items to help British consumers. Last week, Rachel Reeves said this.

[00:53:12]>> I know that the cost of the weekly shop is often one of the biggest worries for families. So, last month, I met with supermarkets to urge them to do all they can to keep prices low. And today I am taking action by suspending tariffs on over 100 different foods sold in supermarkets.

[00:53:32]So there was two policies there. The first one was about the fact that they're going to ask supermarkets to keep the prices down, which is neither use nor. You either do it or you don't.

[00:53:41]And then they're taking these tariffs off these items. Now these include plant-based drinks, whatever that is. I don't know many meatbased drinks. Do you? I suppose it's like soya milk, >> I guess. Oh, I see what you mean. All right. Quinoa, couscous, figs, green tea. They're doing all of this to bring down the cost of your shopping bag. How often do you buy frozen olives? Michelle Donan, >> I didn't even know they were a thing. I I think this is really quite outrageous because it's just shows how out of touch they are when you look through this list and you think, how many people do you know that put all of this stuff in their weekly shopping basket? like they like some of the stuff fine you know citrus fruits etc absolutely baked beans absolutely some of it's off the reservation and chewing gum is not an essential item and I say that as a chewing gum addict >> me too I like a bit of chewing gum and it is expensive don't get me wrong but I don't think it should be on the list of priorities for the government to make it cheaper maybe I don't know let me see what you've been saying at home about this list of um items that you say should be uh essential uh just a minute let me just find it here there's a lot of messages coming at this time of the day. You get more messages here than you do at midnight, let me tell you. Here we go. Bev, it would be a nice to afford a piece of fish, says Alex. Never mind an avocado. The person who put this list together is obviously an overpaid civil servant. Sharon says, "These essentials are not for the ordinary working man or woman. They are for the elite, and that is not me. Bread, vegetables, fruit, cereals, etc. would be very welcome."

[00:55:09]And P says, "Meat, eggs, cheese, butter, fish, and bread, apples, and oranges, staples, and basics." Zia, what is going on with this list? Well, it's an attempt from they've obviously looked at the issues that are plaguing this country according to voters and cost of living is right up there along with immigration. Um, and obviously they're having no impact of any sort on uh the borders issue. Uh, and they're not really having any impact on cost of living. In fact, it's actually getting worse and and actually >> to the degree there is any value in this is one of the few times Rachel Re has announced anything that isn't actually directly harmful to the British economy.

[00:55:41]Right. I mean, I get it. You know, frozen olives I've got no idea about either, but at least it's not direct.

[00:55:45]Whoever is buying those might get some benefit from it. So, the fundamental problem is in this country, again, we zoom out for a minute. Why is it that every single time you go to do a weekly shop, it seems to get more expensive.

[00:55:55]And most people doing watching this program doing that shop, they don't recognize inflation at 3%. It is like 3% that they would bite your hand off for a 3% increase, right? Every time they open their energy bills, it seems to sore, right? Right. And it's always being there's always a foreign war being blamed even though all the all that so much of the tax on on our energy bills is supposedly to build our own uh renewables infrastructure. The bottom line is we got to completely change course on this stuff and we've actually got to get well-paid jobs in this country. Again, this is one of the other big problems. Real wages have basically done nothing for over a decade in this country. Uh and that's why people feel so much poorer.

[00:56:27]>> And also I think my concern is this is going to make products being imported cheaper. Perhaps that is if the supermarkets pass on the savings, of course, which they don't necessarily have to do. They might do. But what about British producers, Michelle? What about our farmers? I just would love them to say, you know what, we're going to do something to help. We We import 50% of our food into this country. We have no food security. We have no energy security. We've been rendered so vulnerable over the last 30 40 years I would say that I want this government to say let's do something for British producers and we're going to help people in I don't know where do you where do you make your couscous Morocco maybe well quite so this is just a bit of a sticking plaster over a problem but actually it could do harm uh to some of our industry and that's why they're consulting to see what people come back and say so who knows what the final list will say it might just literally be quinoa chewing gum and plant-based drinks, you know, we'll see what we end up with. But um >> and the healthiness of it, that's what winds me up as well. What is your vision for a healthy country? And does it involve chocolate drinks being cheaper?

[00:57:38]It's like they give with one hand and then they take away with the other because they don't know what they stand for.

[00:57:41]>> Yeah. Well, it's all contradictory and that's this government all over, isn't it? You know, they're they're trying to do this and that and this and that and they're all trying to be populist, but they haven't really got a clue of what is their plan. Um, and that's, you know, what Blair said, but everybody already knew that, didn't they?

[00:57:55]>> Would you be clear when it comes to healthy eating? Would reform know what they would prioritize, what they make?

[00:58:01]>> I think I think broadly reform would trust British people to make sensible decisions, right? And the idea, okay, where do we stop? We had this discussion about the vape stuff and and you know, this idea that we're going to be a country where at some point, you know, a 61year-old will be asking a 62y old to go in and buy them cigarettes because of the insane law system.

[00:58:19]>> We got to go listen. I'm going to be back tomorrow night at 6:00. Up next, GBN Tonight.

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[00:59:16]However, temperatures not quite staying above 20°, but in the high teens for many to start the day across much of the south and across the north. Actually, Western Scotland likely to see their hottest day so far in this heat wave as they have escaped much of the heat so far as well as Northern Ireland seeing another warm day. So, temperatures already in the teens by the early morning. Still a bit of cloud lingering around the east coast of Scotland as well as Northern England, but for most of us, it should be a bright and sunny start. Notice though in the south and west more cloud to come into Thursday.

[00:59:49]That cloud is going to push further north and east through the day bringing with it hazy milky sunshine. Still quite a lot of warm and bright weather.

[00:59:58]However, plenty of sunshine though across the east and it will feel much hotter than today across the east with temperatures climbing back towards the mid 20s if not the 30s. Highs of 33 degrees expected across the London area.

[01:00:12]will be in the 30s for many central areas too. Now, a slightly fresher day to come on Thursday on Friday, particularly across the north and west with more rain pushing in some quite gusty winds as well. A risk of rain pushing across the southeast through the latter part of the afternoon, too. So, more rain in the forecast, but temperatures will slowly start to eb away as we finally see the end of the exceptional heat wave. Bye-bye. Expect warm spells with the odd rude interruption.

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