When A Parasocial Relationship Goes Too Far... | Tyler Catastrophe

Added: 2026-05-12

[00:00:01]Hey, what is up everybody? Welcome back to Triple Ryan's Real Reactions. And today we have one that has been so highly requested on my Instagram DMs from a bunch of you guys that I'm going to do it right now. Here we go.

[00:00:18]It is about a Tik Tocker named Tyler Catastrophe.

[00:00:22]Um, and it is about severe paras parasocialness and how creepy it can be and how people can live with delusion online and think that they're basically with somebody that doesn't even know really that they exist. Um, the title of this video is a Tik Tocker's red flag obsession with the musician. Um, Dustin Pointer Tyler Catastrophe is a 26-year-old creator who has spent the last 2 years quietly obsessing over Wilbur Soot online and the internet has just now caught on. So, without further ado, here we go.

[00:00:58]>> I have tried so hard to move on from this, to let it go, because I want so badly for it not to cross over into parasocial territory. And another thing about Tyler Catastrophe, the prices on the necklaces and that he's making are insane.

[00:01:11]>> Let's remind you who I am today. Huh?

[00:01:14]>> Oh god.

[00:01:20]>> The red flag.

[00:01:21]>> This is Tyler Catastrophe. He's a creator on Tik Tok who has spent years obsessing over Wilbur Sut who is a YouTuber and he's also the lead singer of >> That's the classic like over Wilbur Sut who >> that's the classic shy boy I get all the girls pose >> is a YouTuber and he's also the lead singer of a band called Love Joy. But the internet is kind of discovering Tyler right now. He is all over the place at the moment. Tyler has auditioned to be in Wilbur's band uninvited. He's defended him over his past allegations. There's just been a lot of stuff. But the reason why people are all discovering him right now is because of what's currently taking place because it's gone past the point of cringe at this point. It's now entering a territory that's potentially dangerous and dark. It's officially entered red flag territory. There is a thing with the internet and parasocial relationships where like some people truly do think that they are in relationships with people online and that person has no idea about it, but in their head they really think they're together. And to some that might seem like silly and whatever, but to others it's obviously very scary, very dangerous, can lead to stalking, and then can lead to even worse. Look what happened to Christina Grimmie, the singer who grew up right near where I lived in New Jersey, who was killed at one of her concerts from someone who was so obsessed with her and wanted to be her boyfriend so bad that he ended her life and his own so that they could quote unquote be together.

[00:03:05]absolutely insane. Also, real quick, happy Mother's Day to everybody.

[00:03:09]Today's a hard day for me. Uh, a lot of you know, so I was going to take the day off, but I was like, you know what? I haven't missed a Sunday. I haven't missed an upload in over a year. I haven't missed one on this channel. I was like, you know what? Even though I'm feeling a little bit down today. You know, I lost my mom when I was 16, so like Mother's Day is a little bit of a weird day, obviously. But I was like, you know what? People on Triple R need me and I need the community of Triple R just as much. So, you know what? I got myself out of the funk and I'm I'm here and I'm and I'm and I'm present and I'm thankful for my lovely community. So, happy Mother's Day any mothers out there watching, mothers to be or if your mother is uh is alive and well, happy Mother's Day to her or you. And if your mother has passed on, happy heavenly mother's day to them as well.

[00:03:56]>> We have to do this right now. I just had a massive bowl of tortillini and I'm going to pass out or >> Sounds good. Also, side note, if you're wondering about my head, I decided to go to the beach just before filming, and that was a mistake. I shouldn't enjoy myself. I'm I'm I'm too white.

[00:04:11]>> Happens to the best of us, brother.

[00:04:12]>> Anyway, moving on. Here's the timeline.

[00:04:14]I'm going to go through this mostly chronologically so you can really see how this has been building.

[00:04:18]>> Thank you. That's what I want.

[00:04:19]>> Crazy mess that it is today. So, for 2 years, Tyler posted about Wilbur. And now, >> also, you guys really keep me in the know cuz I don't know about most of this stuff, but then you look and like all these videos are huge about this guy. I must be on the corner of the internet on Tik Tok or something that just is under a rock. Many people.

[00:04:38]>> So once again, thank you for sending these on Instagram. Follow me on my Instagram, Ryan Abe, R Y A. Just follow me on there. Even if you have nothing to send me, it'd be nice to follow me on there so I we can keep in touch with things. But then also, this is where I know what I should be making videos on.

[00:04:53]The comments are number one of this video and all videos. We literally track them. But then my Instagram DMs are number two. people noticed. He would get some views here here and there. Um some attention, but it didn't, you know, build like it is now. And then last April, he decided to post an audition video to be Love Joyy's second vocalist.

[00:05:12]Okay.

[00:05:12]>> A position that they did not request and a video that they did not need or want or ask for.

[00:05:18]>> This guy kind of looks like Jon Snow a little bit. Shout out to Game of Thrones fans out there. I'm going to guess that Tyler Catastrophe, maybe not a great singer. Let's see.

[00:05:25]>> My name is Tyler Salona. I'm 26 years old. I live in Texas, but I'm trying to move to England anyway. I'm a massive extrovert. I've been performing since I was 10. And in 2019, I was actually a semi-professional vocalist, but then had to spend almost 5 years getting my voice back after losing it completely cuz someone hit me with their car. So happy.

[00:05:56]mind.

[00:06:00]>> I need more confidence. If I had this much confidence, I think I could take over the world.

[00:06:06]>> Oh, you didn't tell us you were an inventor. How did you figure out how to make a new song key?

[00:06:10]>> Yeah, I'm not I'm not going to play the whole thing. Um, I think for >> that might have been in the key of Z.

[00:06:16]>> 15 seconds >> for Catastrophe Z >> gets the job done. Now, naturally, the comments were exactly what you thought they were going to be, but the >> Tyler, I can't do this today.

[00:06:26]>> Video did not immediately >> imagine having 30,000 likes on a comments that just says, "Okay, >> catch fire." It took some time, but it started kind of picking up a bit once Tyler started going to Love Joy shows.

[00:06:37]>> We just got back. I >> I do love the sound of a of a nice air conditioner hum. I'm not being sarcastic either.

[00:06:45]>> So tired, but god damn is love good. I was on the center of the barrier. I am a barrier [ __ ] for life.

[00:06:54]>> It became very clear to people that this dude had a clear goal to eventually meet Wilbur.

[00:06:59]>> You see, like right now, like I don't This is kind of like funny and intriguing and and and and whatever. And I I know that's going to turn and get weird and creepy. And that's why I'm making this video because that's what we focus on on this channel.

[00:07:10]>> To show and involve him in his life somehow. So his his account started like picking up steam and people were like, "Okay, how is how nuts is this about to get?"

[00:07:18]>> Will is wonderful at selfies. Thank you.

[00:07:20]>> Okay. Okay, though. So they met him and that Wilbur Wilbur soot. What a crazy last name. Soot.

[00:07:26]>> This is a good one. I like it. Anyway, this is your sign. Buy the tickets.

[00:07:30]It'll be great.

[00:07:31]>> Have you seen ticket master prices, Tyler? We all have to start selling ass to be able to afford to go to these shows anymore. And I will not pit my peach out, dude. I will not.

[00:07:40]>> Good for you, man.

[00:07:41]>> For my girlfriend's eyes only. He also claimed that he's still friends with several bands, which No, he's not. But Love Joy was especially nice, which you kind of have to be if you've done some other things that Wilbur has done. But this next one is one that really got the ball rolling. He went to a Love Joy show and he >> I thought Wilbur Soot was like a Minecraft streamer, so I must be out of the loop.

[00:07:59]>> Detailed what it was like meeting his crush at a show. and he was telling this story about how Wilbur made some kind of small minor mistake and then this >> I accidentally called this man adorable and I nearly bit off my tongue cuz I've been crushing on this guy for clearly tooing long and I used to be an attractive woman. All right, flirting with men not hard. And he says something along the lines of, "Oh, I'm so sorry.

[00:08:20]I'm stupid." And what comes out of mying mouth? You're adorable. It's fine.

[00:08:26]Somebody put me down because listen, I can I can make a fool of myself. I can embarrass myself. No problem. I make videos on the internet for a living.

[00:08:34]It's fine. No one cares. But if I had made this man uncomfortable, I'm jumping. All right, I'm done. Take me out. And this happened like a week ago. I've been thinking about this.

[00:08:44]>> I'm going to say that the the guy uh probably didn't even know or care.

[00:08:48]Probably just went on to the next fan, took a photo, went on to the next fan, and took a photo >> for days. I Who allowed this? I am 26 years old. Why is having a crush right now so embarrassing? Never in my life have I been so verbally lost in front of a guy.

[00:09:06]Clearly, there is no coming back from this. I'll be thinking about this forever probably. I would say pray for me, but I think we all know I'm a lost cause at this point.

[00:09:13]>> This man looked at me like he wanted me to look at him and I oh no.

[00:09:18]>> Which is fine. You know, all of this is cringey, but for the most part, it feels harmless at the moment. He just feels like some kind of eccentric kind of guy that just loves music a lot. But then Tyler posted this next video and that's when the energy shifted away from cringey and more closer to alarming.

[00:09:37]>> I have had a crush on Will Gold since 2019 when I heard him laugh in the >> Oh, Will Gold. I guess is his stage name Wilbur Soot. That's what he picked. Soot as his stage name. Will Gold is a cooler name. the background of someone else's video and it felt like life itself leaned in to listen, which is really inconvenient for me because I am very much a one soul at a time kind of person. So once I develop a crush, virtually no one else stands a chance ever.

[00:10:02]>> Do I have to get up?

[00:10:03]>> Yes, fine.

[00:10:07]>> Yeah, wave that flag.

[00:10:08]>> Regardless of how many people have tried and been interested in me, I have not been able to find the interest for any single one of them.

[00:10:16]>> Damn. Okay, getting hit on left and right >> because I have aing crush on a guy I have interacted with once.

[00:10:23]>> I am more nervous than a worm in an early bird special.

[00:10:26]>> He somehow managed to make me want to write music again. Something I have not done since my last band broke up in 2019 and I got hit by a car and couldn't sing anymore. And I can sing again now. It took several years, but I got >> Oh, you kind of can >> got it back cuz I'm amazing.

[00:10:42]So, no matter how many times I try to sweep this out of the rug and move on with my life, there's always that little thing in the back of my head saying, "There's a nonzero chance." Oh my god.

[00:10:53]>> Yeah. It's a zero chance. It's zero.

[00:10:56]Francis Scott off key.

[00:10:58]>> And then once again, the comments echoed exactly what you >> The one thing I'm blocking says he talks like a fanfic. Definitely. There's some there's these He's very theatrical about the way that he's speaking. all are probably >> there's a nonzero chance. That is their way of saying they truly think they're going to end up with this guy. And once again, does this guy Wilbur even really know about them in passing? Probably.

[00:11:21]I'm sure he's met 100,000 people in his life.

[00:11:24]>> Thinking right now, this is not a crush.

[00:11:26]This is definitely an obsession. I made a video on this like last year.

[00:11:30]>> A crush is innocent. A crush is from afar or like whatever. Once you start making videos and monologues and dedicating your life and your love to the somebody, it's not a it's not a crush anymore.

[00:11:46]>> But there have been several of these kind of fans who feel like they've fallen in love with their celebrity crush and it it leads to stalking and it leads to way worse things. There was like a woman who broke into Kiana Reeves' home.

[00:11:59]>> Whoa, what did that say? Hold on.

[00:12:01]>> It leads to way worse things. There was like a woman >> Keano Reeves obtains restraining order on skinny dipping stalker. That's terrifying.

[00:12:11]>> Who broke into Kiana Reeves' home.

[00:12:13]Miranda Cosgrove stalker tracked her down to her house and then shot at a car that he thought was hers. And oh my god, there's a very famous one where Bork's stalker sent her a bomb in the mail.

[00:12:25]These people exhibited a lot of the same.

[00:12:27]>> Wow, look at that. It says he mailed a letter bomb rigged with suluric acid to her residence in London. Like what in the world?

[00:12:36]>> Stalker sent her a bomb in the mail.

[00:12:39]These people exhibited a lot of the same behaviors that Tyler is exhibiting and you can see the negative emotions that are coming out from him and how this could spiral into something worse. Now, if he was a child talking like this, you know, fine, kids, we've all probably done that at some point. Tyler's 26. He is not a child at all. Yeah. After everyone sent him some videos and sent a lot of backlash his way, Tyler responded and just made it worse.

[00:13:05]>> And yes, having a crush on him makes it hard for me to have a crush on literally anyone else because he is proof that all the qualities I want in a partner exist as one coherent person.

[00:13:14]>> But the thing is like you don't know him. You know whatever this guy Wilbur is putting out there. You don't know who he actually is, right? It's it's just music that he's you're knowing him through and maybe a couple videos or an Instagram post. It's like, you know, I do my best on here to be as raw and authentic as possible with no editing on purpose to show you the real me. But anybody online is still a version of themselves. We all are.

[00:13:47]Because of course it would be weird if you weren't. You know, nobody is ever going to be 100% themselves, say every single thing that comes to their mind.

[00:13:55]No, that's it would be ridiculous. So, it's like you're not falling in love with him. You're falling in love with the idea of this person. That idea only exists in your mind and your imagination.

[00:14:06]>> And why the would I want to settle for someone who doesn't have those qualities when I know that those qualities exist?

[00:14:11]>> Oh, no.

[00:14:11]>> But I'm not out here saying that he's the only person who's allowed to date me. He's the only one who's allowed to try and if I just wait long enough, he'll fall in. No. If he asked me out, I would say yes.

[00:14:23]>> Oh boy.

[00:14:25]Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We're Yeah. No [ __ ] If he asked me out, I would say yes. Oh boy. And that's basically their way of trying to invite him to do so. Yep. This is where it's starting to take a turn.

[00:14:35]>> That is all I said.

[00:14:37]>> You said you can't even form relationships with other people. What are you What are you talking about?

[00:14:42]>> Yep. Get it going.

[00:14:43]>> But also, I know who I am and I know I can pull. and thinking to myself, >> "Oh my, and I know I can pull." They really think, this is where you, this is delusion at this point. So now this leads me like they really think they're going to date this guy.

[00:14:57]>> Hey, I bet if this guy knew me, he'd probably like me back. There's a chance is also not parasocial.

[00:15:06]>> My brother in Christ, that is the textbook definition of parasocial.

[00:15:11]>> It's just thinking. I am going to eat this lamp. I'm gonna pitch a fit.

[00:15:17]>> Oh my gosh.

[00:15:20]Holy [ __ ] I just did a a little simple goo on signs of parasocial relationships and every literally everything he has said fits the description. He consumes like an overwhelming amount of content on this person. His entire social media presence is built around this person.

[00:15:39]He's seeking him out in person without him knowing. He's giving him gifts. He can't form relationships with other people. He can't stop thinking about him. So, it all fits to a tea. For him to say that Wilbur's personality traits fit exactly what he's looking for is especially wild because he doesn't know him, >> right? And it's once again, it's okay.

[00:15:58]You support somebody, >> you watch them or whatever, you you like their photos, that's fine. We all have people that we like and support. But when you are truly romanticizing a world where it's just you two together and you're not going to date an actual person that you know in real life because of it, you're you're ruining your own life.

[00:16:23]>> He just consumes his content that he posts online. That doesn't count.

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[00:16:45]>> Makes this next stunt that he pulls just so so much worse. Let me give you the background on it real quick so you know the whole story. Wilbur, if you don't know, crazy name by the >> Yeah, I don't know much about this guy.

[00:16:58]>> Is a serial abuser. Oh, I Why did I think he was gonna say a serial eater or something? Or >> he has been confirmed to be a serial abuser by multiple victims and kind of confirmed himself in a way. In early 2024, a Twitch streamer named Shelby Shovel went live and >> oh, what a cool name. Shelby Shovel >> detailed her experiences of abuse at the hands of an unnamed boyfriend. And she detailed experience.

[00:17:23]>> Her room is so aesthetically pleasing.

[00:17:25]>> Experiences that included like manipulation, controlling behavior, and physical stuff where his boyfriend would regularly bite her and give her bruises.

[00:17:35]>> What What is this dude? A vampire? Wilbur soot.

[00:17:43]What? Bite her and give her bruises.

[00:17:44]Yeah, that's that's that's not good.

[00:17:46]would also regularly ignore her safe word when she asked him to stop and >> Oh, okay. So, he's legit like predatory.

[00:17:54]>> He would intentionally bite down harder.

[00:17:57]It didn't take long for fans to figure out who >> Oh my god.

[00:18:00]>> who she was talking about. So, Wilbur was forced to make a statement on, >> oh, maybe Wilbur and Tyler should be together.

[00:18:06]>> Twitter. And the statement was basically just like, I went to therapy for my past behaviors that were harmful and blah blah blah, and I thought the biting was consensual, but I'm so deeply sorry, blah blah blah. And then Shelby responded in a couple of tweets being like, "Why would I love being hurt for no reason? It doesn't make any sense."

[00:18:21]And also, >> I could not have imagined what I would wake up to today. My ex pretending he thought I enjoyed being hurt and all my friends immediately coming to my defense. The support has brought me to tears. I don't even know what to say.

[00:18:31]I'll be back just taking a little time.

[00:18:33]And for the record, I don't accept the apology. Good on her.

[00:18:36]>> I don't accept your apology. And as always with stuff like this, there will typically be some kind of resurfaced footage from people going back in the past and trying to see if there were red flags along the way. And in this particular case, there was at least one.

[00:18:51]>> What was that sound?

[00:18:54]>> It's ace race.

[00:18:58]It's um it's it's an ace themed ace race.

[00:19:02]>> That whole thing was just really weird.

[00:19:03]So, it's supposed to be for it's the >> give me >> Yeah, like her fear when he burst in the room.

[00:19:10]>> Yeah, that's not good. That's like PTSD right there.

[00:19:14]>> Him shoving her out of the way and just his general intimidating vibe, which I know is supposed to be as a joke, but none of it looks great in hindsight.

[00:19:22]Well, this story went mega viral. It went all over the place. And the virality of it allowed two more victims to step up. One of them was another streamer named Nikki. She released a tweet confirming her own experiences with >> I see that people expect me to say something about situation. Truth is I was freshly 18 when I met him. While I did not see a problem with it back then, I can see how harmful he was to my young self and how damaged I am from that time. My time in the UK had some of my darkest moments and I can and I think people can tell from the way I used to act on stream. I still can't think too much about everything that happened back then without shaking. And I don't know what to do and I don't want to. I always felt so unheard whenever I brought up any situation regarding that time. I don't want to say more as I don't want to make this about myself.

[00:20:04]>> Whiffer and then more folks.

[00:20:05]>> Man, this dude was really messing with people.

[00:20:07]>> Found footage online from Nikki's old streams.

[00:20:11]>> To me, >> yeah, >> he keeps biting me.

[00:20:14]>> Yeah, >> I actually Will uh Will bites broke me sometimes and I get so many bruises all the time from him biting me.

[00:20:22]>> Do you remember on the first time I met you, I threw you? Yeah, I >> remember the first time I met you. I threw you.

[00:20:31]>> I I do remember that. I do remember.

[00:20:33]WHAT?

[00:20:34]>> WHY IS EVERYONE JUST laughing in the car?

[00:20:36]>> What?

[00:20:37]>> It was a consensual throwing. I just She was saying that she was big and strong and so I picked her up and threw her.

[00:20:44]Your chat doesn't seem to understand why I would throw you, Nikki.

[00:20:47]>> Oh, why you would throw me?

[00:20:49]>> It was to assert dominance. You were saying you were stronger then. You were saying you were big and strong and good.

[00:20:54]So >> yeah.

[00:20:55]>> And then a couple weeks later, the third person came forward.

[00:20:57]>> Man, what a demon this dude is.

[00:21:00]>> It was a cosplayer YouTuber named Alice.

[00:21:02]She detailed a lot of the similar experiences. Love bombing, control, manipulation, and she also accused him of SA, which happened after they broke up. I'm not going to get into the details. It's heartbreaking, and the details are a little too much for YouTube. And then three months later, Tyler finally posted several lengthy videos talking about his opinions on the allegations.

[00:21:22]>> Well, that's what we need to hear. We need to hear what Tyler Catastrophe has to think.

[00:21:27]>> And they they were just as bad as you would think.

[00:21:30]>> I do not think that Wilbur is an abuser.

[00:21:35]>> Jesus.

[00:21:37]Good lord. Just going against everything everyone just said. And I know I've said that fairly indirectly in the past, especially recently, but I do feel like now it needs to be said point blank because as someone who has been a victim of abuse, sexual assault, and domestic violence, I know way too well what those things look like.

[00:21:57]>> Wow, this is crazy.

[00:21:59]>> Will states very clearly in her follow-up VOD that she consented to the biting. She then went on to clarify that what she had an issue with was the fact that it hurt. And while I don't think anyone should be hurt in their relationships, at the end of the day, that is a communication issue.

[00:22:15]>> Two quick things here. I'm not trying to discredit Tyler's experiences. I'm sure he might have some. I'm just trying to credit Shelby's. Number one, she didn't consent to him biting down harder. And then number two, victims.

[00:22:26]>> Yeah, she might have said to him before, "Oh, I don't mind little love bites."

[00:22:30]You know, like you're watching a movie and the the guy bites the girl's lip or vice versa a little bit and it's romantic. All right.

[00:22:37]You know, I'm sure nobody wants to get chomped on like a damn swordfish sent to things based out of fear all the time, especially if they're younger, which these three girls were at the time when they were dating him. And then especially if there's themes of control and manipulation and abuse involved. So this part I don't I definitely don't agree with. I am saying that it is not your responsibility to be judge, jury, and executioner for people you don't know.

[00:23:10]>> Does anyone see the irony in this?

[00:23:13]For people you don't know, right? And you don't know him. He don't know you, little bro. So that just take your own advice >> in situations that you don't understand because none of us have all of the information. In fact, in this instance, there was very little information to go on. And at the end of the day, ruining someone's life, someone's career, the careers and lives of everyone around them for the crime of what is ultimately being a bad boyfriend is not something that is your job to do.

[00:23:47]>> Look, if it was like just love bombing, look, people have lovebombed. Everybody love bombs every now and then, whether you mean to or not. All right, different story. You should someone's career be ruined over it. No. when you start getting into actual abuse and physical stuff and mental torture and pushing and throwing someone and all those things.

[00:24:07]Yeah, that's a problem. That's not just being a bad boyfriend. That's not just that's like a major issue. And it's not just like it happened once, but repeated amounts of times. So then, like he said here, it is a serial case.

[00:24:21]>> Really rich to >> Every time I say cereal now, I just want Cinnamon Toast Crunch >> here. We shouldn't judge somebody and their situation, especially if we don't understand it, from someone who actually believes he knows Wilbur personally.

[00:24:34]What? You know, also his cadence just really ticks me off. He's like talking to us like we're in kindergarten.

[00:24:41]>> That's exactly it. The way he's speaking is like I'm so much smarter than you and I'm speaking down on you.

[00:24:46]>> It just does not get any better in that regard.

[00:24:50]>> Okay. Believe victims. Believe survivors. However, >> however, >> as a victim myself, as a survivor myself, what we should, >> it's like, how can I make this situation about myself? And here's what I think he's doing here. He just wants Wilbur to be like, "Thank you so much for being one of the people that defend me. Let's get together and let's get married."

[00:25:13]>> Be saying when we say those words is, "Believe victims, believe survivors first." Because the unfortunate truth is that just because you would never lie about something so important does not mean that no one would.

[00:25:25]>> Oh, you tiny little [ __ ] >> But I will never compromise my own moral compass just to make someone else feel better. Because my moral compass was forged in a fire that I hope no one else has to go through.

[00:25:37]>> Then why would you even be saying this?

[00:25:39]>> So please, if you hear nothing else from this video, believe victims, believe survivors first. But please keep in mind that there are people who lie about that sort of thing and it does irreparable harm to those of us that don't.

[00:25:54]>> Look, if one person says something, you you you know, maybe you have you look into it. If three or four people say, "Yeah, this dude was biting me and bruising me and throwing me, you know.

[00:26:07]Yeah, I think I would understand that there's a correlation there.

[00:26:13]I like to give people the benefit benefit of the doubt, right? I I know people lie all the time. Happens to everybody on the internet, but there's also times like this where if the shoe fits, >> and personally, I don't want to forgive the people who do.

[00:26:29]>> Now, PART OF HE'S HE'S MAD AT THEM.

[00:26:31]>> Saying here is technically true.

[00:26:33]Occasionally, there are victims who lie about this sort of thing, >> right? It happens all the time. Sure.

[00:26:37]>> However, Wilbur's case is not a good case study for this. He's got three different victims who didn't know each other all come forward, >> right? And there's video and audio footage of some of this stuff happening or being talked about.

[00:26:48]>> Wilbur himself even admitted to a good portion of it. So that doesn't make any sense. And the fact that you're like just so hellbent on immediately defending him without raising any sort of doubt or questions or just anything.

[00:27:01]You're just immediately team Wilbur is odd. Also, he's not believing victims and survivor.

[00:27:05]>> Wasn't Wilbur the name of like a famous pig or something? is first. He's not even following his own thing. Even though there's way more proof of Wilbur's wrongdoing as opposed to >> Hey, Arnold, >> Wilbur's innocence. He's not even making any sense. Yeah.

[00:27:20]>> Unfortunately. Now, the reason why all of these things are resurfacing and being discovered for the first time is because of what we're about to talk about right >> Oh, boy. now and what's currently going on as we speak. Tyler is about to move across the world from the US to the UK and he's moving to a little town called Brighton.

[00:27:39]>> Oh my god. Tell me that that's where Wilbur lives. This is where this is going to get like where it gets from level one to level three to level to level 10 because now this is stalker.

[00:27:51]This is scary stuff. Like this is like restraining order stuff. And guess who lives there?

[00:27:57]>> That's unbelievable.

[00:27:59]>> Wilbur and Lovejoy.

[00:28:02]>> That's That's actually very scary. I'm not not making a joke here. That's anyway.

[00:28:06]>> More chicken tortillini. Here. Oh, I'll call you back.

[00:28:10]>> Damn. I want to. I want cereal.

[00:28:14]>> He has proposed quite a few reasons for wanting to move to >> Oh, I I bet.

[00:28:18]>> None of which involves >> just a just a coincidence >> conveniently. and his reasons also seem to continually shift.

[00:28:27]>> Seen the guy moving halfway around the world just to be closer to a YouTuber.

[00:28:31]If y'all think I would make a massive lifealtering decision that takes years of work to achieve just because I was willing to admit on the internet that I think a musician I don't know has a pretty laugh, then y'all really have the wrong idea. But why >> what is with these weird skit things?

[00:28:47]>> Brighton specifically. But when I visited England and met the people I had hoped to be working with, I completely fell in love with the South Coast. I've always wanted to live near the ocean and it's gorgeous. And Brighton is a really popular city right now. I've got a bunch of friends and support in the area. And like with most college towns, it's got a thriving art and music scene. And people keep telling me it's the gay capital of the UK, which I think is hilarious.

[00:29:08]>> He also claimed another video that he's moving there because he loves their football club, which >> which sure. Okay, the big reason why he's moving there apparently is because he claims that he got a huge job offer from a very famous artist. And this artist apparently ghosted him. So, the deal is off the table. Nevertheless, he's for some reason still moving there, or at least trying to. I say trying to because he has one problem. He doesn't have enough money to get there. So, in order to get there, he is currently selling and making jewelry and paintings and promoting them on TikTok. He has three key tactics to promote. I know for a fact if he ends up moving to the UK, he will run into this Wilbur Soot many different times. Oh my gosh, we live in the same area. Oh my gosh, this is where I get coffee. I'm telling you, like this is how it starts, people. This is how it, you know, and then the spiral happens when you're denied and then that's when bad things can happen. And I'm not saying something bad will happen, but I think we all have seen a story like this before and we've seen some of these end not so well. His story that are incredibly off-putting and cringy and just really paint a picture into his own character and how he views himself. His first promotion tactic is just bashing other stores. This necklace insulted my mother. This necklace told my best friend's ex to ask for another chance. This necklace called me a slur and meant that this necklace just kind of sucks. And would you like to guess how much these moldy cheesecube monstrosities would cost? Not one, not two, but almost $300 American.

[00:30:54]>> Naturally, bashing other people's businesses just to prop up your own business is kind of a crummy thing to do. But it's also especially wild to bash their prices considering how much he charges for his.

[00:31:05]>> Let's remind you who I am today. Huh?

[00:31:07]piece I'm currently wearing is $575.

[00:31:10]Took two people with months of work and the level of skill it would have required to even think of this piece took me eight years.

[00:31:17]>> Eight years.

[00:31:18]>> You want to know how I know that these pieces are worth their price? Aside from the years of practice and the months of work, aside from the fact that you can't get them anywhere else, this fun fact, this bead work can't be done by machine.

[00:31:28]But I actually know they're worth it cuz the first three pieces from the first drop have already sold.

[00:31:32]>> I'm angrier than a sealer in a submarine full of swear jars. I think most people would agree that expecting people to pay a Tik Tocker upwards of 500 for a necklace that's being regularly worn.

[00:31:42]>> Yeah. Funding them money on overpriced jewelry that will then make them help them move to possibly stalk and continue their obsession of a famous person they're in love with. Yeah, maybe not the best uh idea >> and promoted.

[00:31:58]>> You're technically just funding their delusion >> is a lot, right? But his paintings are way higher. Way higher. Like this one he's selling for $150,000.

[00:32:15]Oh my god. First of all, I thought this was an onion.

[00:32:19]$150,000.

[00:32:22]Look, art is suggestive and you want to make your art certain prices, you go right ahead. But you better not expect someone to buy that for that. Are you insane? Yes, he is. $150,000. This one is for $2.

[00:32:36]Dude, you could buy like a house in the Midwest for that.

[00:32:39]>> $30,000. And this one is for $335,000.

[00:32:45]And look, cool looking pieces.

[00:32:48]Good artist, right? If I if I passed by this at a little like uh local art show, I'd go, "Oh, nice."

[00:32:57]$335,000.

[00:32:59]You got to be literally out of your mind.

[00:33:01]>> Now, I'm not saying it's bad. He clearly has talent, but these are insane prices for an artist who is unestablished in the art scene and is not making regular sales, especially with his paintings.

[00:33:14]And we know he's not making regular sales with his paintings because he's having to raise money to buy tickets to get to Brighton. He doesn't even have enough money to get over there. If he was selling paintings, he would have already been there by now. Now, the second promotion tactic that he uses is kind of like, have you guys ever seen like the like the a Tik Tok where it's like, "My grandpa spel spent 12 years building this bakery and >> it works every time.

[00:33:37]>> Now, nobody even shows up and it's just a grandpa just sitting behind a cash register just and a lot of this stuff is just AI now. Like, people are making these scenarios up and then people don't even work there. So then it goes viral and people start showing up to the store and are like, "I'm here to support your grandfather. Oh, he's not here anymore, but thank you so much."

[00:33:58]>> Tyler does his own kind of like version of this, but he's the one recording it and it doesn't feel nearly as genuine.

[00:34:04]The second promotion tactic that he uses is called sad fishing. This is where a person overshares a hardship and maybe even exaggerates or um lies, straight up lies about hardships that they're facing in order to gain sympathy and attention, blah blah blah. Now, I don't know if Tyler is lying or exaggerating his hardships, per se, but I do know that he's oversharing. He has a couple of stories that he just consistently reuses. Like, he talks about this famous one day, a famous artist and activist you've always looked up to will ghost you after saying he'd hire you, leaving you almost homeless, halting your career with a string of missed opportunities and ruining your desire to paint. this artist story quite a bit, but he specifically will never shut the [ __ ] up about this car accident that he's been in.

[00:34:51]>> Ever been hit by a car six years ago?

[00:34:53]Maybe by an SU.

[00:34:54]>> Have you ever been hit by a car 6 years ago? I'm sure some people have.

[00:34:58]>> SUV maybe around 50 m an hour. Cuz I have 6 years ago today.

[00:35:03]>> Hey, that's what happened to me.

[00:35:05]>> Oh my god.

[00:35:08]>> Someone once totaled Alexis with my body and now I'm a professional freeloader.

[00:35:11]This skill, this trade, this craft is ancient and I only got good at it on accident because when I got hit by a car, my hands were the only part of me that I could move without hurting myself.

[00:35:22]>> I feel at this point if you just keep talking about it like this, no one's going to care anymore. His third promotion tactic.

[00:35:29]Thirst traps.

[00:35:32]>> Oh god, >> I'm I'm so sorry.

[00:35:34]>> What do I do for a living?

[00:35:37]I'm a professional attention seeker, obviously.

[00:35:42]And I'm killing the game. I'm killing it, darling. If you're not getting attention, >> look at that. What did he >> And I'm What are you >> What are you doing with your eyes there, dude?

[00:35:55]>> The game. I'm killing it, darling. If you're not getting attention, what is that?

[00:36:01]>> Killing it.

[00:36:05]It's like one of those lizards that can kind of, you know, go here and here at the same time.

[00:36:11]>> Darling, if you're not getting attention, are you even living? The answer is no. No, you are not.

[00:36:17]>> So, now we know what his I mean, he just wants the attention.

[00:36:21]I absolutely love how respectfully feral some of y'all get when I show off the jewelry I make and sell in a way that could be considered a thirst strap because 99% of the time the only reason I film them is cuz it's like 1:30 in the morning and I'm bored. Technically it's 1:35. Anyway, >> oh the twirling and >> you should buy some jewelry and tell me I'm pretty >> I might as well. Anytime I have a terrible day, I wind up feeling like the whole world is against me. But then I remember I look like this.

[00:36:51]So obviously I'm [ __ ] wrong.

[00:36:53]>> Well, maybe it's just because you're ugly.

[00:36:57]>> Ugly.

[00:37:01]>> You got to be kidding me.

[00:37:07]>> Hello.

[00:37:07]>> Yes. Uh, sorry. Uh, >> like good for them having confidence no matter what it is, right? But like the way they're presenting it is just so wrong.

[00:37:15]>> Chicken tortillini. And could I also get a cannon so I could shoot myself up into orbit?

[00:37:21]>> Yeah, I I I have no thoughts on that.

[00:37:24]Moving on. Now, naturally, his business tactics and promotions have all created a lot of controversy in the past few weeks and not just because of his high prices and the way he promotes and all that, but it's also just because of his general attitude and how he views himself.

[00:37:41]>> Can you honestly name one other person making stuff like this?

[00:37:44]>> Probably. Yeah. just I'll just go to like any local uh like flea market or anything.

[00:37:52]>> If I'm not a leader in my field, who is?

[00:37:55]>> This video blew up for just all of the wrong reasons and it resulted in another creator responding to it and essentially proving that his price points are ridiculous and he's just his whole style is based on the indigenous community.

[00:38:09]>> And another thing about Tyler Catastrophe, the prices on the necklaces and [ __ ] that he's making are insane.

[00:38:16]It's also insane that he wants to act like you can't find these type of beaded necklaces anywhere when there are indigenous artists making these necklaces 10 times better and way less expensive.

[00:38:25]>> He went on to list several different examples of indigenous artists that are on TikTok and are selling highquality handmade bead work for way less. Here's just one example.

[00:38:34]>> Yeah, but they're not trying to move to Brighton to stalk Wilbur Sut.

[00:38:37]>> The first is Rayes Tehidas. I hope I'm saying that right. They are based in Colombia and all of their items are handmade by indigenous women from five different regions. Here are some examples of their necklaces and bracelets and their pricing.

[00:38:48]>> Oh, those are fire.

[00:38:52]>> Tyler's product pricing.

[00:38:54]>> 13350, but he sold four.

[00:39:00]He made $5,000 from these.

[00:39:03]>> So, that creator's video blew up.

[00:39:05]>> So, somebody's buying it. And this week, Tyler kind of indirectly responded to it, admitting that he isn't part of an indigenous tribe and there's a clear difference between his bead work and the Native American community's bead work.

[00:39:17]It's like a whole separate thing and it's not inspired by them in any way.

[00:39:20]Which, funny enough, literally the next day, Tyler posted this video and he seemingly kind of changed his tune a bit.

[00:39:29]>> I was born and raised in Oklahoma, arguably the most indigenous state gi >> Oh my god.

[00:39:35]how many times it was taken away and then >> he probably he probably went to bed and like started looking up some things and was like you know what >> to people pe peopleles who have endured immense suffering.

[00:39:45]>> Oh my god.

[00:39:47]>> And even in continued suffering have fought tooth and nail to keep not only their lives but their ways alive.

[00:39:54]>> This is so annoying. It makes me want to watch a Cindy Watts video and that's saying something. Even when >> dare I say Nicole Kessinger >> their stories and histories and ceremony.

[00:40:05]>> Shut your hole.

[00:40:08]Shut your hole. God, >> the land I was born to holds a great deal of importance to me.

[00:40:15]>> Brother, it's Oklahoma. Like, it's cool.

[00:40:17]Great. But like, good lord, man.

[00:40:18]>> When I am sure of nothing else, I am sure of where I come from. And somewhere in the years of educating myself and learning the stories and the histories and finding the truths and the lies I was taught, I found the ways of my home.

[00:40:31]>> This is one of those people where everything is philosophical to them. You know, like, oh yes, my water bottle is half empty, but if you think about it, that just means there's more room for my water to expand in the horizon of my brain. It's like, shut the hell up. It's just water in a bottle. Okay? Not everything has to be some deep meaning.

[00:40:50]Some things are just there.

[00:40:52]>> And while I would never claim a heritage I have no way of proving, I would never take opportunities away from the people that deserve them and would never take up space in a culture I was not welcome to. If honoring the ways of the people of my home, learning their histories and doing what little I can to help keep their ways alive and referring to myself as two spirit as a way of honoring the weight of my own soul and the >> dude is like speaking in haiku poetry.

[00:41:16]way it guides me home. With the blessing of my deadliest auntie, by the way, is something that you would consider morally corrupt, then I don't think we will ever understand each other.

[00:41:27]>> Please, somebody turn him off before I start screaming. So, he admits that he's a two spirit, which is an indigenous term. And then here's a clip of him from back in 2023, also identifying himself as a two-spirit.

[00:41:39]>> Tik Tok, I need your help, please. My name is Tyler. I'm a transgender, two-spirit disabled artist currently stuck living in Texas and I don't want to be here anymore.

[00:41:48]>> So, you mean to tell me that you are this in tune with the Native American community and they're just calling to you and you feel compelled to keep their culture alive, but your work is not inspired by them at all.

[00:42:03]Anyway, this is still an ongoing thing.

[00:42:05]Tyler is currently still trying to get to the UK.

[00:42:08]>> Oh my god, somebody please stop him. and harass Wilbur. I'm sure >> that I'm genuinely that guy Wilbur, although he seems like a scumbag, should at least look into getting some sort of restraining order ready to go. I think there's probably enough evidence where a judge would pass it, >> which Wilbur probably deserves it unless it turns life-threatening. I wouldn't wish that on anybody, but he deserves, you know, a little snotty Tik Tok artist just peeping in his wind.

[00:42:34]>> I made you a necklace.

[00:42:37]It took me eight years. the seahawk while he's eating soup and he just and just spills the hot soup all over him and just just gets a soup rash. He he deserves a little soup rash and that's that's probably putting it my Anyway, whatever. But for now, here's another Oh my lord, the internet is such a bizarre place full of just very interesting human beings. I hope that this doesn't have a bad ending. Once again, I you know that that Wilbur Suk guy does not seem like a great person, but like he said, nobody should be, you know, like that deserve to be like hunted down or whatever. I don't know. You just never know. It's it it it scares me. I mean, but this this creates a whole different topic of discussion, which is just when obsession and a crush goes way too far and turns into this where you're now making a fool of yourself and a mockery of yourself for somebody that doesn't even care about you. I doubt he's ever, this guy Wilbur's probably never said a word about this guy on social media. Nobody.

[00:43:47]nobody like you don't matter to him and that and and that's just uh that's just sad and pathetic.

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