Day 1 LIVE | California v. Carlos Dominguez | Davis Stabbing Spree Murder Trial Begins

Added: 2026-06-01

[00:00:12]And when he saw his grandmother and was reunited, um he was relieved. He would spend the next five months sleeping in her bed. The transition started to get better. [snorts] And then she left again, leaving him devastated.

[00:00:30][clears throat] And after the last time he would ever see his grandmother in person.

[00:00:41]But like many children who experienced severe trauma, Mr. Al Dominguez had no choice but to move forward. Speaking only Spanish when he began school, he quickly learned English and would ultimately excel academically.

[00:00:57]In addition to his younger brother Dylan, his sister Mia was born in December of 2011. And you will see that all the Mr. Realis Dominguez was distant from his parents. He was extremely close to his siblings. that he would take on the role of protector and caregiver of his siblings when his parents worked.

[00:01:19]Growing up in a neighborhood of high crime and poverty in Oakland, it was Mr. Realis Dominguez who had the responsibility of picking his siblings up from school, getting them home, making them food, directing the house chores until his parents got home from work. Even in high school when he was balancing multiple sports practices, he would use the one hour between the end of school and the start of football practice to get on a bus, pick up his sister in elementary school, get her home before rushing back for the [clears throat] start of practice.

[00:01:55]His role as caregiver continued when his parents were home. It was a home life, you will see, often characterized by bizarre, erratic, and irrational behavior by his mother. Behavior that a young child could not understand.

[00:02:12]There were frequent verbal fights between his parents, almost always initiated by his mother, alcohol abuse, and physical domestic violence. And while Mr. reality Mingz would say that neither of his parents ever did anything to him that he considered physical abuse. You will see that his father's definition of discipline is not anything uh most people or any people would consider reasonable.

[00:02:44]at Castlean High School. He was an honor student, a four sport varsity athlete, participating in football, soccer, track, and swimming. Football being his favorite.

[00:02:57]Although not big in stature, he had an athletic, muscular build, and through hard work, he would become the captain of his high school football team, even if they didn't win many games.

[00:03:13]and through his hard work in the classroom, he would excel academically, ultimately graduating 11th out of his graduating class. He was friendly and outgoing, always had a smile on his face. You'll see he started a YouTube channel that consisted of him doing silly and stupid pranks with his siblings and friends.

[00:03:39]Despite his multiple achievements, he believed his immigration status would prevent him from ever attending college.

[00:03:46]But with encouragement of a guidance counselor his senior year without even telling his parents, he applied and gained admission to UC Davis.

[00:04:00]Shortly before Mr. Mr. Reality Dominguez began at Davis in the fall of 2020, his parents would move from Oakland to Tracy.

[00:04:10]And when Mr. Reality Dominguez went off to school for the first time, still only 17, his parents didn't take him. He went by himself.

[00:04:22]He began Davis in the September of 2020.

[00:04:26]It was in the time of COVID and Zoom classes and it was a very difficult time uh to begin college and witnesses will describe that Mr. Realis Dominguez is was much more reserved and quiet compared to his outgoing personality in high school. But despite the challenges of co Mr. realis Dominguez soon made multiple friendships across different social circles.

[00:04:58]The first good friend he met was a young man named Nathan Riego Dios, a former football player himself. They met over a Zoom class and uh Nathan invited Mr. asked me to throw the football around and they would soon become close friends, extremely close friends, and ultimately agreeing to share an apartment together the next year.

[00:05:25]And through Nathan, he met a young woman by the name of Kaylee Gallardo, who by uh middle of his freshman year would become his girlfriend. and you will see she is probably the one person at UC Davis who knew him better than anyone else.

[00:05:42]During his time at uh his freshman year, he also became friends with a group of older students from a different social circle, Sydney Celelesi, Mark Capido, and Christian Ortega who invited Mr. Alamus to rush their fraternity.

[00:06:02]And through this rush process, he also became friends with a man named Philip Han. He was an older student who had attended um UC Davis few years earlier before taking a break. He returned and he rushed to fraternity with Mr. Realis Dominguez. Witnesses will describe a young man, although quiet and on the shy side, enjoyed social activities and being around others and who they would observe laugh, smile, and joke around just like any typical 18-year-old. [clears throat] Throughout his freshman year, he had a short haircut, what Kaylee Gallardo would describe as pristine hygiene, and a normal athletic build.

[00:06:47]a formal high school uh athlete. He enjoyed playing pickup games of basketball and other athletic events and nobody observed anything unusual about how he walked, moved or carried himself.

[00:07:02]Like many students entering UC Davis as a bioscience major, he found the academic work far more challenging than he expected.

[00:07:12]But he struggled through it and ended the year in good academic standing.

[00:07:20]Even in a time of co co it was in many ways a typical freshman experience but it was not typical although nobody recognized it at the time Mr. realizing was already beginning to exhibit symptoms of schizophrenia.

[00:07:41]He was already getting sick.

[00:07:44]There were certainly signs that others recognized in retrospect. Both Mark Capido and Philip Han will describe incidents toward the end of his freshman year [snorts] when Mr. Realis Dominguez went to them and asked if they had ever heard voices.

[00:08:02]But like many progressive diseases, many of the symptoms are too subtle to recognize at the time, >> particularly for young adults [clears throat] in their teens and early 20s, unfamiliar with mental illness. when he returned to Davis uh during his sophomore year, he would move into the Parkside apartments with Nathan and two other roommates. But it soon became clear to Nathan that something with his friend had changed.

[00:08:41]Suddenly he became extremely thin, really skinny, and ex started to exhibit unusual behavior in the home that Nathan, having never witnessed mental illness, uh found scary. He would say it freaked him out. And these two young men who were extremely close friends during this I was in his freshman year, they began to distance themselves from each other. And by the end of the year, they weren't even communicating at all.

[00:09:15]Mr. Real's Dominguez would spend most of his time with his girlfriend, Kaylee Gerardo, and she herself observed uh significant and concerning changes in its behavior.

[00:09:28]Mr. Real Dominguez lost significant weight.

[00:09:33]The pristine hygiene where he wouldn't go out anywhere without going back to take a shower was gone.

[00:09:42]And he preferred to spend most of his time in his room listening to music writing songs and yes smoking cannabis as did all the students in his friend group.

[00:09:56]But when Mr. Reality's Dominguez and Miss Gar go would go out he was paranoid. She will describe multiple incidents where they were walking in the town of Davis or out in the community and Mr. Realis Dominguez would believe that people they passed were saying things about him.

[00:10:14]And Miss Gallardo recognized that these people were clearly engaged in their own conversations or hadn't said a word. And this would happen all the time. Too many for Miss Agaro to even count.

[00:10:33]Miss Gardo knew that um Missing was struggling with mental illness, but she did not. A 19-year-old, she did not know how to help. And she will describe an incident that happened in April or March of 2022, spring of their sophomore year, when she and Mr. Real Ming were entering her um apartment conference called the Ryder Apartments on Olive.

[00:11:02]And as they entered, another couple entered behind them and Mr. Realis Dominguez suddenly turned believing that the other man had said something to him. Miss Gar described how Mr. appeared to feel threatened by this man, even attempted to tackle him to the ground before Miss Gardo was able to separate him. and she will tell you this man had not said or done anything.

[00:11:34]Unable to call Mr. Al Dominguez home, she will describe how she tried to drive him back to his apartment while he repeatedly tried to get out of the car while it was still moving.

[00:11:47]And when she finally stopped, he got out and disappeared into the darkness.

[00:11:54]That evening, she called him repeatedly to ensure that he was okay, but he never answered and she feared the worst. And when she finally reached him the next morning and he refused to talk about what happened, Miss Scar realized that as much as she cared about Mr. Riis Dominguez, she needed to end their relationship, which she did sometime in March or April of 2022. although they would continue to remain friends and see um that each other afterwards.

[00:12:30]Although it was a primary reason she did not tell him it was his mental illness that caused her to end the relationship.

[00:12:39][clears throat] After his relationship ended, Mr. Raminga's mental illness continued to progress.

[00:12:47]late summer, early fall of 2022, he got a job at a Jack in the Box uh on G Street in Davis, but it would not last long. A co-orker named Glattis uh Verdin will describe that on the first day of work when she first got there, Mr. Real Dominguez stood behind the counter would not even acknowledge her and their shifts shifts would overlap and she would describe about during their shifts she would commonly see Mr. realism among standing perfectly still with his arms straight at the side [snorts] just staring at a wall. And this would happen two to three times an hour every time. She will describe one incident when Mr. realis Dominguez attempting to work the drive-thru stood motionless while staring at a wall while the beeping of the drive-thru is heard throughout the restaurant. She repeatedly called out his name without any response and she finally approached him, removed the headset from his head, at which time, in her word, she he flinched really hard, got scared, and fled to the back of the restaurant.

[00:14:10]Mr. Real Dominguez would often not show up for his shift and eventually he just stopped showing up at all.

[00:14:20]Now in the fall of 2022, Mr. Real Ming moved into a residence at 762 Hawthorne which he would share with Mark Capido, Philip Hon, and Christian Ortega. Uh he took over the room that was previously occupied by Sydney Celelesi who had to move home to Sacramento due to family concerns but he would still uh frequently attend the house, come to the house. His name was still on the lease.

[00:14:52]And it soon became clear to all the housemates that Mr. Al Dominguez was suffering from a mental illness.

[00:15:02]Extremely thin with long hair that hung his face. It was clear he was not showering regularly, if he showered at all.

[00:15:13]He walked with a stiff gate, arms straight by his side, which some of them would describe almost like a zombie.

[00:15:22]He isolated himself in his room. And when he would leave the room, he would not even acknowledge them.

[00:15:29]He stopped feeding or caring for his cat, Ember, a cat that a year earlier he had been completely dedicated to. And they would tell you how this cat, they would find a cat in the kitchen trying to tear into packages to get food.

[00:15:47]And that Mr. Mr. Capedo ultimately uh started feeding the cat and the cat started staying with Mr. Capedo.

[00:16:00]During housemate meetings, he would stare off into space or stare at a wall. They would have to say his name multiple times to get his attentions.

[00:16:10]And all three roommates observed things that indicated Mr. Realis Dominguez was hearing voices.

[00:16:18]Now, sometime after moving into the Hawthorne Lane residence, Mr. Dominguez began to engage in a very unusual routine when he would leave his home, most often at night, and he would walk or ride a bike to a small number of random locations where he would sit and stare and engage in other bizarre behavior.

[00:16:46]One of these locations was Sycamore Park. Now, before moving into the Hawthorne Lane residence, uh Mr. had been to Sycamore Park on a few occasions. He played basketball with Nathan at the elementary school next door, but didn't have any meaningful connection to him.

[00:17:06]But within a few months of moving into the Hawthorne residence, he would go there regularly, usually sitting near on the play structure where he would just sit there and stare at the ground or stare into space.

[00:17:22]On one of his walks, he found a knife blade that was separated from the handle.

[00:17:29]And he started this almost nonsensical routine of sitting on the play structure, throwing the blade at a nearby tree, seeing if it would stick.

[00:17:44]When he realized that the dullness of the knife was preventing it from sticking in the tree, he did in December on December 6th of 2002 order a knife from Amazon.

[00:17:59]Another seemingly random location [clears throat] where Mr. Rallies Dominguez would regularly go, although less so than Sycamore Park, was an area along the railroad tracks at the intersection of K and Second and K Streets. This was a location of a portion of a downed power pole that I will describe as Mr. Alice Dominguez sitting on.

[00:18:27]Let me stop you there. Okay. So, this is a time we got to take an afternoon break and Mr. Hudson has a bit more to go on his opening statement. So, [clears throat] uh 15 minute uh break.

[00:18:38]Remember your three-part admonition.

[00:18:39]Don't forget your opinion, don't discuss. Don't research. and I'll see you in 15 minutes. The jury is excused.

[00:18:46]Thank you, council, and enjoy your break. Thank you both.

[00:20:22]view that I was recording. This is the view that I had to record the opening statements on because this is the first thing that I saw. Um, therapist had sent it to me and so I was like in the waiting room in the back. Y'all see? I think that's how it go.

[00:20:40]Oh, I gotta mute myself. Oh gosh. I hope they didn't hear me. Oh, look at that.

[00:20:45]Look, I probably I might have been Oh, thank goodness I wasn't on my phone or anything and talking cuz I didn't have myself muted. Wait a minute.

[00:21:24]Hold on.

[00:22:52]Yeah. So, this is the camera view that I was looking for. Um, it's still recording in there. If y'all I mean, we only on a 15 minute break, so I won't play it, but um just know we do have it. So, worst case scenario, I won't play it during the break, but um matter of fact, I can go probably go I'mma I'mma record it all together.

[00:23:26]Maybe I'll go ahead and end the recording because I can really end the recording.

[00:23:38]Yeah, I'll go ahead and end the recording.

[00:23:41]That way I don't have to worry about that part. I'm just walking my talking myself through this the best way to do this and then um when we have opportunity either after this I'll I'll upload them or um we'll be able to go back and watch them.

[00:24:00]But yeah, this is kind of our feed or of I guess when you're doing it live straight from the room. This is kind of how how it is.

[00:24:15]So, we're looking at the great seal.

[00:24:18]Oh. Oh, therapist sent over this song.

[00:24:20]Listen, y'all.

[00:24:25]I think I download it. Here we go.

[00:24:40]>> [music] >> Courtroom packed in the cameas on. Folks all whispering won't be long. NO MORE SMIRKS [music] and no more lies. Judge looked down with narrowed eyes. Bay waiting by the side [music] door. Steel toad footsteps on the courtroom floor.

[00:24:56]Whole track buzzing [music] like the verdict dropped but the jury room still got them locked. Pop. Hear the cell [music] doors lock. NO PAROLE BOY BABY.

[00:25:05]Round the clock. One way trip [music] and the bus won't stop. Everybody clap to the L.

[00:25:12][music] >> No appeal going to save you. Orange jump flavor. Sink that feeling when the gym of the L.

[00:25:27][music] Mama crying in the second row still [music] talking but it's moving slow receipts and the pressure steep now the whole room barely even breathes used to talk big for the TV [music] lights now it's long breaks and uneasy nights funny how the swagger disappeared before a single word GOT [music] CLEAR the cell doors LOCK NO PAROLE BOARD baby round THE [music] CLOCK ONE WAY TRIP AND THE BUS WON'T STOP. Everybody clap to THE L. [music] NO appeal going to save you. ORANGE JUMPSUIT TAILOR made flavor. Sink that feeling when the gavl drop. That's the rhythm of the Lop. [music] The L.

[00:26:19][music] That's the rhythm of the L. [music] CASE. COURTROOM TENSE. EVERYBODY WAITING ON THE CONSEQUENCE. ONE DEEP HUSH THROUGH THE PARKING [music] LOT.

[00:26:41]>> We got a winner winner chicken dinner.

[00:26:44]The Lwap bop.

[00:26:46][laughter] Y'all like the L [ __ ] bop?

[00:26:56][clears throat] The L [ __ ] bop. How funny. Wait a minute. Um, who gave her the lyrics? Didn't Tammy give her the Didn't Tammy put this stuff in? Where is Sammy? She ain't even get to hear it. Y'all have to let me know what Sammy in here so I can replay it for her.

[00:27:14]Yeah. So, I guess when they getting that L [ __ ] [laughter] we going we going to put on our Lop bop song. We put that in our rotation of our songs. [laughter] Shout out to therapist, you know, for hooking us up.

[00:27:31]Yeah. And then she did this one. Wait a minute. Where is it at?

[00:27:36]>> [ __ ] guilty.

[00:27:38]>> Can y'all understand what he's saying?

[00:27:40]>> That [ __ ] guilty.

[00:27:43]>> That [ __ ] guilty.

[00:27:50][clears throat] >> Oh, excuse me. Look, I'm coughing thing.

[00:27:52]I'm bad at this courtroom thing.

[00:27:55]It's um like um Oh, you heard it. Okay, so you can't hear it.

[00:28:00]Okay.

[00:28:03]Okay. Good. Good. I didn't know if y'all would be able to hear it or not.

[00:28:06]>> That [ __ ] guilty.

[00:28:09]That [ __ ] guilty.

[00:28:11]>> Okay, good.

[00:28:15]Okay, good. So, we know what the mofo.

[00:28:21]We know what the mofo. Okay. Well, um, while we on break again, let's go ahead and we do our L [ __ ] bop again.

[00:28:36]Courtroom packed and the cameas on.

[00:28:38]Folks all whispering, won't be long. NO MORE SMIRKS and no more lies. Judge look down with narrowed eyes. They live waiting by [music] the side door. Steel toad footsteps on the courtroom floor.

[00:28:51]Whole track buzzing like [music] the verdict dropped but the jury room still got them locked. Lar [music] the cell doors lock. NO PAROLE BOY baby round the clock. One way trip and the bus won't [music] stop. Everybody clap to the L.

[00:29:07]>> NO up here going to save you. Orange jump [music] flavor. Ain't that feeling when the g drop drop? That's the rhythm of the L.

[00:29:20][music] [music] >> That's the L.

[00:29:27]>> MAMA CRYING IN the second [music] row.

[00:29:29]The still talking, but it's moving slow.

[00:29:32]State park receipts and the pressure steep. Now the whole room barely even [music] breathes. Used to talk big for the TV lights. Now it's a LONG BREAKS AND uneasy nights. Funny how the [music] swagger disappeared before a single word GOT CLEAR. LOP hear the [music] cell doors lock. No parole board baby ROUND THE CLOCK. ONE WAY TRIP [music] and the bus won't stop. Everybody clap to the LOP L. [music] NO APPEAL GOING TO SAVE YOU. ORANGE JUMPSUIT TAILOR made flavor. [music] Sink that feeling when the gav drop.

[00:30:05]That's the rhythm of the lop. Hey, [music] the L Y B.

[00:30:15][music] That's the rhythm OF THE LOP CASE. PAUSE. COURTROOM [music] TENSE.

[00:30:21]EVERYBODY WAITING ON THE CONSEQUENCE.

[00:30:24]ONE DEEP HUSH THROUGH THE PARKING LOT TO THE BEAT [music] OF the Lop.

[00:30:44]courtroom packing the cameas on. Folks all whispering won't be long. NO MORE SMIRKS and no more lies. Judge looked down with narrowed eyes. Waiting by the [music] side door. Steel toad footsteps on the courtroom floor. Whole track buzzing [music] like the verdict dropped but the jury room still got them locked.

[00:31:04]Lar [music] the cell doors lock. No parole boy baby round the clock. One way trip [music] and the bus won't stop.

[00:31:12]Everybody clap to the L WOBB. [music] NO appeal going to save you. Orange jumpsuit tailor made flavor. Sink that [music] feeling when the gav drop.

[00:31:22]That's the rhythm of the L.

[00:31:32]That's the L.

[00:31:35]MAMA CRYING IN THE second row. Defense [music] still talking, but it's moving slow. State drop receipts and the pressure steep. Now the whole room barely even breathes. Used to talk [music] big for the TV lights. Now it's LONG BREAKS AND uneasy nights. Funny how the swagger [music] disappeared before a single word got clear. [ __ ] Hear the cell [music] doors lock. No parole board baby. ROUND THE CLOCK. ONE WAY TRIP and [music] the bus won't stop. Everybody clap to the LOP LOP. NO APPEAL GOING TO SAVE YOU. Orange [music] jumpsuit tailor made flavor. Sink that feeling when the gav will drop. That's the rhythm of the lb. Hey, [music] the lop.

[00:32:23][music] That's the rhythm of the lb.

[00:32:27]CASE COURTROOM TENSE. EVERYBODY [music] WAITING ON THE CONSEQUENCE. ONE DEEP HUSH THROUGH THE PARKING lot to the beat of the Lop.

[00:32:50]So, while we on break, um I do want to um if you did, you were not here earlier, I do want to make sure that everybody is aware that on um next Saturday, we will have a special guest in the house. Um Tara Lean is going to join us um before her mom's sentencing.

[00:33:12]Um so, I wanted to let everybody know.

[00:33:14]So, if anybody has any questions, if you part of the Discord server, please make sure you go to the link that says um it says Bryce Ellis and Restelli go in there and go ahead and type any questions that you may have from the trial, anything that we covered in trial that you may want to know.

[00:33:38]um she will be hanging out with us that sat it's a Saturday in the morning for a little bit and um yeah it should be a good time, right?

[00:33:51]She's excited about I mean she she I don't want to say I I want to say she it's like a reliever. It's like a um what is it like when you say stuff and you get it off your chest kind of thing.

[00:34:07]It's one of those moments for her to kind of like talk, right? So, talking through it, emailing through it, doing different things is kind of helping her, you know, get through it. So, she will um she'll be here on the 6th to spend some time with us over here. And um yeah, her mom is sent will be sentenced on the 10th. You you know, it's so funny. I forgot to tell her. Well, I I didn't mention it. And I'm glad I did mention it cuz she text me earlier. Um but anyh who, um yeah, so it's still keeping her and the family, especially Matt's family, and in our prayers, um as they get through this time because they got a lot of healing to do. Um you know, cuz you I don't think they can see um and I'll have to ask her. That'd be one of the questions I'll ask her because I don't think she get to see her nephews. I don't think they have access to them just yet.

[00:35:05]So yeah, country girl. Yes, she's going to have opportunity to come on here and any questions that y'all want to ask, you know, respectfully. I mean, of course, she can she can decline, but if you have any questions, if you part of the Discord server, you can send it to me or you can um email them to me at take it to trial with two L's atgmail.com and I'll get them prepared and a list to send over to her. so she can kind of be prepared.

[00:35:38]But it should be a good good time, you know, a good time for her to be able to get the get what she wants. And so somebody kind of understanding, you know, cuz they family, you know, we thought it was a very weird dynamic, you know, kind of teams in a way. Feel bad for brother, her brother, cuz I think mom just kind of got him caught up in that, but we'll definitely be in there.

[00:36:01]Um, what we got going on? So, they have not got back in court yet. You know, we got to kind of stay in here because it's live. So, I can't mess with it or pause it or anything or talk on it. I'm not sure if this is how the entire trial is going to go or if somebody else is going to cover it. But right now, the way it's going, if we're going to watch it live, we're going to have to watch it live.

[00:36:25]So that also means that what'll happen is it looks like the the case with our um Mr. Rick Child, it looks like the state is going to arrest their case. We heard from the ME lastly today. Um maybe we're going into the defense case and boy oh boy, I can't wait to see uh Andy and Alice and Wonderland get on the dog on stand because they gonna testify for the defense and that shows you a lot about this case already, right? So, I can't wait to see that courtroom action tomorrow.

[00:36:57]Um, but what we would have to do is if this is going to be live streamed like this, um, at 9:30 tomorrow, um, West Coast time, we're going to have to go in here to kind of watch this live or I'mma have to re I'm have to record it.

[00:37:18]Yes, that's correct, SD. Yep.

[00:37:26]Yep. Yep. So, she will be here on the 6th and her her her mom will be sentenced on the 10th.

[00:37:34]So, right around that time. We'll we'll look at the the ad sense and see what we got. Go. We'll look at the I don't want to say I I keep call the t-u sis like oh gosh. Well, at least her part of it, right? I don't know how the mom was like doing all of this stuff. like I don't know why she got all these kids involved involved in this.

[00:37:54]Okay, so it looks like we got some movement of a camera in the courtroom.

[00:37:58]Um yeah, so I'll be going over getting some um I'll try to get the the the alert and the thumbnail and all that good stuff out for us um over the weekend.

[00:38:15]Yeah, I'm so excited. I you know I I know she wanted to come up. she, you know, she had to take some time to kind of like I know cuz she remember she was going to come home when when she was in court and um it it was just best at that time that he didn't come out or talk to us.

[00:38:38]So that's going to be um that's going to be our next that And I thought I was They not sharing the sh just yet. I don't know.

[00:43:09]Oh gosh. They ain't getting kicked out of the courtroom, did they?

[00:43:22]Yeah.

[00:43:36]>> We're off the record just for a second.

[00:43:38]So, at this day, that sun comes in and sometimes I have to put the blinds down.

[00:43:42]It looks to me like I need to get those blinds down. That is that bothering you, the sun right now? Is anyone in the back row feeling that? it. Yeah, I think it needs to come down. Let's put it all the way down. Yeah.

[00:43:56]>> Okay. Back on the record. Uh we're in opening statements and we were with the defense. Uh Mr. Hutchinson, carry on.

[00:44:09]When I left off, I was discussing a location along the railroad tracks um near the area of Second and K Street.

[00:44:20]where there was a uh down power pole that I will describe as the sitting log throughout this trial.

[00:44:29]So during the time of his sophomore year when uh Kaylee Gallardo lived at the RI at the excuse me during this time when Kaylee moved to the Ryder apartments Mr. Rihanna's Dominguez would visit her by walking along the railroad tracks that intersect downtown Davis and then curve and run parallel to Second Street.

[00:45:14]There's the gravel portion of Second Street and it continues along the paved portion of Second Street.

[00:45:32]to the rider apartments.

[00:45:37]Mr. Realis Dominguez would visit her by walking along the railroad tracks that intersect downtown Davis.

[00:45:53]and then curve and run parallel to Second Street. There's the gravel portion of Second Street and it continues along the paved portion of Second Street.

[00:46:09]By for comparison, shortly north of this red dot along L Street is the location where Miss Gillery was stabbed.

[00:46:25]Approximately right here near the intersection of K and Second Street was this down power pool. And some point when Mr. Raz Dominguez was walking to visit Miero, he became aware of this poll. It's not there anymore, but it was there at the time of these events in April and May of 2023. And Sacramento police officer taking photos of the area, not knowing what was relevant, did get a picture of it.

[00:47:05]Although there is a fence uh separating the rider apartments from the railroad tracks. You will see there is a gate uh that is wide open and despite no trespassing signs, people commonly cut through it across the railroad tracks.

[00:47:21]And this you can see behind the pile of gravel near the overturn chair is the downed power pole where Mr. >> [clears throat] >> Real Dominguez would go and sit even after Miss Gallardo moved out of the rider apartments at the end of her be sophomore summer.

[00:47:54]Mr. reality would continue to go that location where he would sit and stare at the rider apartments [clears throat] which were directly across the railroad tracks.

[00:48:11]Sometimes he would get up and walk around the general area, walk around the streets that bordered this area before returning to his log where he would sit and continue to stare. And this is something he did regularly, although not as regularly as going to Sigmore Park.

[00:48:32]Now, like like most [clears throat] everyone in Davis, Mr. Real Dominguez was familiar with Central Park, having attended the farmers market there. But unlike Sycamore Park and the sitting log, Central Park was not a destination he would go to when he would leave his house. But it was a location where he would frequently pass by and stop when he was returning from a location in downtown Davis or other portion of Davis.

[00:49:13]And this these frequent trips to Sycamore Park and the city lock that continued until or continued until winter break of his junior year. would be in December of 2022 when he returned to his parents' home in Tracy. Now, his parents will claim that they were so shocked by his physical appearance and obvious mental decline that they urged him to stay home and not return to UC Davis.

[00:49:51]But whether they did that or not, the evidence is clear they did nothing to help.

[00:49:57]They didn't get him professional help.

[00:50:00]They didn't do anything. In fact, his father gave him a ride back after the end of the winter term, even though Mr. Realis Dominguez did not have a mode of transportation.

[00:50:14]When Mr. reality returned to Davis in January 2023.

[00:50:20]He stopped communicating with his housemates altogether or even acknowledging their presence.

[00:50:28]He had only minimal communication with his family, including his siblings who he had previously been in constant communication.

[00:50:38]And while his parents did nothing, you will see that it was his siblings, his 11-year-old sister, who having not having not heard from him, reached out to Kaye Gallardo, asking her if they had heard from her brother. You see her brother Dylan also sent text messages to Miss Gallardo, who then contacted Philip Pond.

[00:51:08]And when Philip Hon went to Mr. Alis Dominguez's room, knocked on the door, and told him that his family was worried about him, he just looked at him and didn't even respond.

[00:51:26]Isolating himself in his room, he would only attend would leave to attend class or go on his nightly walks. And when he did, he continued to walk like a zombie, stiff, erect, with arms straight as his side. He started carrying the knife he purchased on Amazon, both to Sycamore Park and the sitting long, repeating the bizarre, almost obsessive compulsive behavior of trying to throw this knife into a tree. was he also used this knife to carve into a tree at Sycamore uh Park something that he believed was a face which you will see a photo of.

[00:52:08]He tried to attend his classes but his disease made it impossible for him to compre comprehend the material or do the work and he received all Fs his winter term.

[00:52:27]He enrolled in classes for his spring term but he was un unable to do even the most basic work. his you will hear from his instructor Ava Bendis, then a PhD student who um taught him in an introduction to English class.

[00:52:45]She will tell you that she was con so concerned by his bizarre behavior that on April 12th, she submitted a report to the UC Davis Office of Judicial and Student Affairs expressing her concern for Mr. reality of Mingos. Although she will tell you he had not done anything explicitly or implicitly threatening, she was concerned by just the bizarre behavior, including writing a different name on a quiz he took that she believed he was suffering from mental illness and she believed he was in need of help.

[00:53:28]But nobody from UC Davis followed up on that report.

[00:53:33]Nobody did anything.

[00:53:36]By late April 2023, Mr. Alice Dominguez was in a state of active psychosis, suffering from hallucinations and illusions, believing that he was being stalked by a group of supernatural shape shifters that he referred to as the shadows or the shadow figures. He had been having these hallucinations and delusions for some time. But as the disease progressed, they became more frequent, more vivid, and more terrifying.

[00:54:19]And you will see that it was the progression of this disease and the delusions and hallucinations that came with it that directly led to the tragic encounters with David Broin and Kimberly Gillery.

[00:54:43]When Mr. Real Dominguez was stopped by the Davis uh police officers on May 3rd, 2020 2023.

[00:54:50]He was in a state of active psychosis and he did not believe that he had stabbed or killed anyone.

[00:54:59]After he was taken to the Davis Police Department, he was placed in an interrogation room where he would remain for the next seven hours. and two detectives named Steve Ramos and Matt uh Muscardini would spend five and a half of those asked hours asking Mr. Rial's leading force choice questions which received often contradictory responses of yeah, no, or I don't know.

[00:55:33]When they did not get the responses that they wanted, Detective Muscardini and Detective Ramos became angry and frustrated and they repeatedly told Mr. Realis Dominguez what they already knew that he had stabbed people that he killed people and they told this to him over and over again despite his denials.

[00:56:01]During this interrogation, Mr. Real Amingus sat motionless speaking in a halting monotone voice while the officers moved about in their chairs. Mr. Realis Dominguez sat like a statue.

[00:56:19]Even when the detectives left the room, the only time he moved was almost 3 hours into the interrogation. After being alone in the room, he stood up, put on his hoodie, and tried to walk out the door. And when an officer stopped him and said, "What are you doing?" He said, "I'm just going for a walk."

[00:56:37]Completely oblivious to the situation that he found himself in.

[00:56:44]He did not make eye contact except for the times the officers ordered him to look at them, which they did over 20 times. He exhibited grossly disorganized thought processes and disorganized speech.

[00:57:00]Although he persisted in saying that his name was John Jois, a name he had used about a month earlier when he was stopped on his bicycle.

[00:57:12]He was able to give his correct phone number.

[00:57:15]He tried to give them his UC Davis email under the name Carlos Rouse Dominguez, but he was unable to spell it correctly.

[00:57:26]Although he had said he lived at 782 Hawthorne, you will see he actually lived at 762.

[00:57:32]Other information he gave was close to accurate with minor inaccuracies such as spelling his mother's name as Varla instead of Carla and spelling his high school as Castle Mint instead of Castle Mont.

[00:57:48]During this entire um interrogation, he did not exhibit any emotion whatsoever, exhibiting only a flat effect and blank stare. Even when told that he was under arrest for murder. To experts who watch this video, this was clear that this was a young man exhibiting multiple negative symptoms of schizophrenia.

[00:58:16]But he was being interviewed by two police officers who did not have any training or any experience to recognize that. Both of them will tell you they had never even heard of the positive and negative symptoms of schizophrenia.

[00:58:35]Now you will see there have been many false narratives in this case that have been um advanced by law enforcement. Sometimes law enforcement did it themselves.

[00:58:47]Sometimes they simply didn't correct it.

[00:58:55]>> Law enforcement would advance this theor that Mr. Realis Dominguez committed these acts because he was terminated from UC Davis.

[00:59:07]And you will see there is evidence that on the morning of April 25th, he did he was sent an email [clears throat] indicating that he'd been disqualified uh from the semester, but nobody spoke to him. He never responded to that email. And the prosecution's own forensic expert who looked at the phone confirmed that that email was never even opened.

[00:59:38]Mr. Real Dominguez had no knowledge that he had been disqualified. Cell phone data would show that he on May 1st and May 2nd, he tried to go to his classes, although he appeared to arrive at the wrong time.

[00:59:54]And when he spoke to the detectives on May 3rd, he repeatedly maintained that he was still a student at UC Davis, even when Detective Ramos repeatedly told him that he was not.

[01:00:08]After his arrest, he was housed in the infirmary of the county jail where he would spend each day in an empty cell dressed only in a suicide prevention smog staring at a wall. He never threatened to harm himself. this prevention smog with just because of the bizarre behavior he was exhibiting.

[01:00:32]He consumed only minimal amounts of food and water. They would say he was on a hunger strike walk, but he never said he was on a hunger strike. He simply said he was not hungry.

[01:00:44]He consumed only minimal amounts of food and water, and his weight would soon fall to 108 pounds.

[01:00:53]resulting in several trips to the emergency room.

[01:01:00]By point of reference, as he sits before you today, Mr. Alamingos weighs 171 pounds.

[01:01:08]For nearly three months, he did not shower or brush his teeth, although he made multiple comments reflecting his belief that he was still a UC Davis student, including his need to register for classes, his desire to talk to a counselor, and his concern that he was missing his classes and needed a laptop to do his work.

[01:01:33]Like so many experiencing a first break of schizophrenia, he denied all symptoms of mental illness and refused all requests for him to take medication.

[01:01:46]His verbal communication was minimal and ultimately stopped and his treating psychiatrist at the jail. Woman by the name of Dr. Patricia Tyler who was previously the medical director of Napa State Hospital u diagnosed Mr. Rias Dominguez as suffering from schizophrenia and recommended that the jail seek an order to get involuntary lifesaving antiscychotic medication which was ultimately granted by a court on August 3rd of 2023.

[01:02:19]Shortly thereafter, Mr. Realis Dominguez began receiving antiscychotic medication. The criminal case was paused and on September 13, 2023, he was committed to a Tascadero State Hospital uh for treatment. And he would remain at a Tascadero State Hospital for approximately three and a half months before returning to Yellow County Jail in January 2024, where he would remain to this day.

[01:03:04]What you will see is mental illness.

[01:03:16]What you'll see is it would help if I would plug it in.

[01:03:26]This is Carlos Real Dominguez with Kaylee Gallardo on November 7th, 2020.

[01:03:37]This is Mr. Real Dominguez with Kay at the end of their freshman year on June 10th, 2021.

[01:03:48]This is a year later, June 12th.

[01:03:54]After the scatter has broken up, you will notice he appears thinner.

[01:04:00]His facial hair, the longer hair, this guy will describe how his hygiene had completely deteriorated.

[01:04:11]This is Carlos Riel's at the time of his arraignment two days after his arrest on May 5th, 2023.

[01:04:21]This is Mr. Dominguez on June 6th, 2023.

[01:04:28]This is Carlos Dominguez on July 24th, 2023, shortly before the jail got an order for involuntary antiscychotic medication.

[01:04:43]And this mystery is on February 26, 2024 where he returned from a task at steroid hospital medicated and stabilized on antisycchotic medication.

[01:05:06]You are going to hear from multiple experts in this trial. You will see that many of them have a different role.

[01:05:18]One of the experts you'll hear from is Patricia Tyler. As I mentioned, she is the former medical director of Napa State Hospital. After retiring from that position, she worked for a company called Wellpath, providing psychiatric services to inmates in county jails across Northern California.

[01:05:38]And she was Mr. Realis Dominguez treating psychiatrist.

[01:05:44]And although she did review uh materials, witness statements from his friends and family about the mental decline that they observed.

[01:05:56]Her role was not to observe uh review any information about the charges in this case, but she will tell you why she diagnosed Mr. realis Dominguez with schizophrenia and why she believed it was necessary for him to receive lifesaving antiscychotic medication.

[01:06:18]Another expert you'll hear from is Dr. Steven Winer. He is a forensic psychiatrist currently employed with the San Francisco Department of Public Health and he was an independent expert who was appointed by the court to evaluate Mr. Realis Dominguez regarding the charges in this case.

[01:06:46]You will also and he also diagnosed Mr. realis Dominguez as suffering from schizophrenia.

[01:06:56]We'll hear from a forensic psychologist by the name of Serinit Reed. Uh she is a in private practice. She practices in the Sacramento area. She is another independent expert appointed by the court to evaluate Mr. Realis Dominguez.

[01:07:17]and she also diagnosed him as suffering from schizophrenia.

[01:07:26]You also hear from a psychiatrist by the name of Dr. Sarah Vincent. She is a nationally recognized adolescent and forensic psychiatrist. She is a professor and chair of the department of psychiatry at Morehouse School of Medicine, Atlanta, Georgia. She was retained by the defense to examine Mr. Alis Dominguez and she also diagnosed him as suffering from schizophrenia.

[01:07:58]You also hear from a doctor by the name of Dr. Steven Seagull. He has both a PhD and an MD. He is a professor uh psychiatrist and the chair of the department of psychiatry at the Kek School of Medicine at the University of Southern California who has also been retained by the defense. He has not reviewed any case specific materials but he will testify in response to the claims by the prosecution that this was all because of marijuana.

[01:08:38]And you will see that not only did four separate experts diagnosed Mr. Realis Dominguez as suffering from schizophrenia. The three who both evaluated him and [clears throat] reviewed the specific materials in this case >> that would be Dr. Winer, Dr. uh Reed, and Dr. Benson all will offer their opinion that at the time of these charged offenses, Mr. realities. Dominguez was suffering from schizophrenia, that he was in a state of active or for psychosis and experiencing hallucinations and illusions, and that these positive symptoms of schizophrenia substantially impacted his thought processes and perception of reality.

[01:09:47]Now, you heard the prosecutor talk about this theory of cannabis induced psychosis.

[01:09:54]That was not a theory [clears throat] that originated with any of the doctors who actually evaluated Mr. Al Dominguez.

[01:10:03]You will see that was a theory that originated back in fall of 2025, this past fall. and is a theory that originated with attorneys >> argument listen it is argumentative so [clears throat] this this the way you're characterizing this just tell us what the evidence will show >> the evidence will show that in fall of 2025 attorneys from the county district attorney's office reached out and retained a doctor by the name of Zachary Tory who their office had retained on a prior occasion to offer an opinion in this case.

[01:10:48]Now, Dr. Tory has not evaluated Mr. Realis Dominguez, but he says he has reviewed the all the case specific materials that Drs. Winer, Dr. Vincent, and Dr. Reevaluate reviewed.

[01:11:06][clears throat] And it is unclear exactly what Dr. Tori's opinion is.

[01:11:16]He acknowledged that you cannot diagnose someone with cannabis use induced psychosis or any substance induced psychosis when the symptoms last as long as Mr. Realis Dominguez have.

[01:11:34]Mr. Realis Dominguez has not used cannabis for over three years and he continues to experience the negative symptoms of schizophrenia to this day.

[01:11:48]So it appears Dr. Tori is going to say that at this point uh Mr. realizing this does have schizophrenia spectrum disorder and that's an umbrella term that includes a group of related mental health conditions including schizophrenia but at the time of this offense it was all due to the campus now there is no dispute that Mr. Realis Dominguez like his friend group was a regular user of cannabis and there's no dispute that for people with schizophrenia cannabis use can worsen or exaberate mental health symptoms. But you will see that his cannabis use was a product of his mental illness. It was not the cause of it.

[01:12:49]As mentioned, evidence will show you cannot medically or scientifically ascribe a cause to schizophrenia based on a single risk factor. And that's what Dr. Seagull is going to talk to. And it was Dr. perceive will explain that despite all this uh increased use of cannabis including high THC cannabis among college students schizophrenia rates haven't changed.

[01:13:26]Now the prosecution uh mentioned a witness by the name of Matt Massie. He was the doctor of who contacted Mr. Raz Dominguez with Mr. Abanaga in the park.

[01:13:44]And what you will see is that from the very beginning of his trial, Dr. Massie described how when he encountered Mr. Realis Dominguez, Mr. Realis Dominguez seemed scared that he was scared of Mr. of Dr. Massie, asking, "What do you want? Leave me alone." as he fled.

[01:14:04]As Dr. Massie would testify at a private prior hearing under oath, in his mind, I thought I was chasing a scared young man and for reasons that you will see is clear after maintaining for several years that Mr. Dominguez seems scared Dr. master is likely going to come into court and say change his testimony and say never mind he didn't seem scared and it'll be very clear why he's doing that and it's very clear that it's not the truth you may also uh hear evidence from prosecutions witnesses about uh Mr. Raz Dominguez's cell phone being turned off for long periods of time. What you will see uh from a an expert by the name of Brian Chase, Mr. Raz Dominguez had an old cell phone that was constantly dying and this pattern of extended periods being off existed for months.

[01:15:14]You will also hear how uh false narratives have a impacted witnesses who will testify. As the prosecutor mentioned, approximately uh two hours before Mr. Uh, excuse me. Before Miss Gillery was stabbed, a man by the name of Khaled Sadiki, who worked and still works at Steve's Pizza, was walking home from work [clears throat] near the area of Second and L Street, where a group of home unhoused individuals, including Isaac Chesman, uh, Alberto Asoro, and other individual identified him as being the stabber and proceeded to chase him down Second Street. Now Davis police department would within a matter of days realize that this that the person who had been chased was not Mr. Realis Dominguez. It was Mr. Sadiki who had no involvement in this case.

[01:16:15]But this belief that Mr. Realis Dominguez had been there uh two hours before scoping out the camp that would persist and be repeated. And you will see some of the witnesses still believe that to this day.

[01:16:31]And you will see how that impacts their testimony.

[01:16:40]And you will hear about a man by the name of Steve Ramos, one of the lead detective assigned to investigate this case, to take the [clears throat] lead in conducting the seven-hour interrogation.

[01:16:56]And after and although this interrogation was recorded after that Mr. Ramos would write a report a summary to be used in charging in which [clears throat] he would falsely claim that Mr. Real's Dominguez confessed to all three stabbings. And when you see this recording you will see that is completely not true. That is a complete work of fiction by Detective Ramos. But nobody else for nearly 2 years watched the video to realize that what Detective Ramos wrote was completely false.

[01:17:36]They relied on him to tell the truth.

[01:17:38]And you will see how this false report by Detective Ramos shaped how this case was investigated.

[01:17:55]An opening statement is not an opportunity to discuss the law. And it will be many weeks before the judge instructs you on the specific intent and mental states that the prosecution must prove for each charge and each enhancement in this case.

[01:18:17]But I'm asking you to keep an open mind and please reserve judgment because you will see when the law is explained to you and you apply that law to the very unusual and very complex facts of this case.

[01:18:36]You will see that Mr. to realize Dominguez is not guilty of the crimes of murder and attempted murder, but at this phase of the trial, he is guilty of the lesser included crimes of involuntary manslaughter for causing the deaths of David Bro and Kim Abunaga.

[01:19:00]So as you hear the evidence, much of it will be very difficult to hear and much of it will be at times heartbreaking.

[01:19:10]Please remember that this trial is not just about the physical acts that Carlos Realis Dominguez did, but also about what was happening in his mind when he did them. Thank you.

[01:19:25]>> Okay. Thank you, Mr. Hutchinson. All right. I'm gonna stand up and stretch.

[01:19:31]Okay. And then Mr. Dear, you have a witness.

[01:19:34]>> Okay. All right. Feel free to join me if you're live. Stand up and stretch. We're going to take a hard break at 4:30. And I advised the jury earlier that I would wave a proverbial flag as we move through different phases of the trial.

[01:19:50]So, jury selection check. We did that.

[01:19:52]Opening statements we just finished, check. And now we're entering the evidentry phase of this trial. Okay. So, we're gonna hear from a witness in just a moment in the prosecutor's case and chief and uh tomorrow uh we are going to be in session from 9:30 uh to 4:30 with the breaks that we've been taking from noon to 1:30 and then a short break in the morning and a short break in the afternoon. Okay. Um, and then uh next week is a I'll give you more direction on that, but I have no reason not to expect that we're going to be in session then.

[01:20:55]So talked about holiday.

[01:21:11]For some reason, there are moments of trial with the lawyers.

[01:21:28]I will tell you when I'm talking to the lawyers even though you may not be here.

[01:21:52]So that's where we're at.

[01:23:33]Mr. Good afternoon. Thanks for your patience with the court. I'm ask very last for the record.

[01:24:14]>> Uh my name is Aiden Reynolds spelled A I D A N R E Y N O L Ds.

[01:24:21]>> Okay, Mr. Demora. Uh direct exam.

[01:24:24]>> Good afternoon, M. Reynolds.

[01:24:26]>> Good afternoon, >> Mr. Reynolds. Um, what do you do for a living?

[01:24:31]>> I currently work for the US Geological Survey uh as a a duck a duck surveyor. I I go out to different fields and survey duck populations.

[01:24:43]>> Do you do that locally or do you travel and do that sort of regional area?

[01:24:47]>> Yes, the field office is in Dixon, but we travel to the bay and to the northern central valley and to the southern central valley as well.

[01:24:55]>> Okay. Um, I think it you had uh you you studied and went through college and and things like that to obtain this position.

[01:25:06]>> Yes, that's correct.

[01:25:07]>> Okay. So, back in April of 2023, what were you doing at that time? Were you a business job or were you school?

[01:25:14]>> I was an undergraduate student at UC Davis.

[01:25:18]>> What were you studying then?

[01:25:19]>> I was studying wildlife biology.

[01:25:24]So, do you remember um April 27th of 2023?

[01:25:29]>> Yes, I do.

[01:25:32]>> Said you were an undergrad at that time.

[01:25:34]What grade were you in? I guess were you a junior or senior?

[01:25:38]>> Uh I believe I was a junior. Yes, I was a junior.

[01:25:42]>> Were you working with anyone as part of your studies on that day?

[01:25:46]>> Yes, I uh on that day I was working with a graduate student named Ian Hallebertton.

[01:25:54]Why were you working?

[01:25:56]>> So, the project that we were working on involved uh monitoring a species of song bird called the black pho um in local urban environments.

[01:26:08]>> Did that take you to any particular area to see Davis?

[01:26:13]>> Yes. Um that day we went to Central Park in Davis, California.

[01:26:18]That's in Yolo County.

[01:26:20]>> Yes.

[01:26:21]So didn't really know that Central Park obviously know Central Park could have farmers market carousel things like that at that time. Didn't know it to be a habitat for a lot of different birds.

[01:26:34]Was there What were you sort of looking at or looking for? So we were looking for nests of this species of bird. Um, and we had located one previously on I think it was in the northwestern corner of the intersection of uh Fifth Street and B Street and we were following uh that individual bird that had made that nest that day.

[01:27:03]>> You're kind of tracking it, right?

[01:27:05]>> Yeah. Um, the project was mostly involved with monitoring reproduction of that of that bird.

[01:27:13]So out of here, which corner did you say That's I don't know. That doesn't That's not good.

[01:28:55][clears throat] Stopped and we were looking at uh clear signs that something was wrong. Um there were flies buzzing around this individual and a pool of blood. um directly underneath him below the bench.

[01:29:21]When you say that um you got about 10 ft away, were you exhibit but were as close as you and I are right now or close >> maybe about right there?

[01:29:35]>> Right here. just off the corner.

[01:29:39]>> Yes.

[01:30:17]I'm going to show you an exhibit marked People's Exhibit 2B. I'm also going to show you an exhibit marked People's 2A.

[01:30:37]right? There's no objection to foundation. You can just publish.

[01:30:53]If I could get the I think it's should be that while we are getting that to to work.

[01:31:23]Can I approach?

[01:31:24]>> Yeah.

[01:31:25]>> Thank you. All right. Show me first.

[01:31:30]And do you recognize that as an overview of Central Park?

[01:31:34]>> Yes, I do.

[01:31:35]>> Let me give you my pen. Blue pen.

[01:31:37]>> Okay. If [clears throat] you could with that um recognize it, can you circle the area where you saw uh the deceased individual?

[01:31:48]>> I believe it was [snorts] Is this before or after they renovated it for the water park? This is This is before >> we're looking at it. You see the water park on there?

[01:31:59]>> Uh no. No, this is the playground. Yes.

[01:32:03]Okay.

[01:32:04]So must have been must have been here.

[01:32:11]>> How about we circle one area block right there? Yes. Does that appear to be the area that you saw this visual or hard to tell? Did it?

[01:32:20]>> Yeah. So I was just drawn to these benches here. I It was It's either here. It was definitely further from the from this gazebo. So, I I would say it was probably here.

[01:32:36]>> Yeah. Once we get that screen up and running, I'll point you to a laser point.

[01:32:40]>> It's up.

[01:32:40]>> Okay.

[01:32:41]>> Do we have a laser pointer for the witness?

[01:32:44]>> We'll get it.

[01:32:52]Thank you.

[01:32:56]All right. I'm actually going to start with [clears throat] 2 A.

[01:33:02]start more on a ground level view of it.

[01:33:04]Okay, perfect. We are up and running.

[01:33:10]All right, Mr. Reynolds, do you recognize people's uh 2A?

[01:33:16]Yes. And the in that area that's sort of fenced off by the uh black partitions, do you see the man um that you just testified about?

[01:33:29]>> Yes, I do.

[01:33:32]with if you have the laser pointer, can you identify uh sort of where you were when you first when you first saw him?

[01:33:40]>> So, my colleague Ian and I were walking probably probably maybe even out of out of range or just within the scope of this picture. um when he made a comment about right here, we turned back to face the bench and we got probably around this close to him before we confirmed that he was likely deceased.

[01:34:09]Okay, so I'm going to stop you right there. So, for the record, took the laser pointer at the bottom left of the screen, >> went [clears throat] all the way about 3/4 of the way to the right and then just past the black partition. We came up to that bottom right corner of that black partition. Yes, that's correct.

[01:34:31]And so with that and showing you 2B and that's the overhead that I was showing you on the on the witness stand with this and you circled it looks like right in the middle uh right there that black partition based on what you saw in people's 2A. Is this the area right here?

[01:34:56]>> Yes.

[01:34:57]Now, you had also circled this other area up here at the top. It having seen 2 A and now 2B, is it this middle area right here where you actually saw?

[01:35:07]>> Yes, I'm positive.

[01:35:10]>> Thank you.

[01:35:17]Where was the blood that you saw?

[01:35:22]The blood that Ian and I observed was pooling directly beneath this individual. Um the park bench was like slated or there were separations.

[01:35:37]Um it wasn't like a like a uniform bench. There were um I don't know how to describe it, but there were there was pool Yeah. There's a pool of blood directly beneath him.

[01:35:53]>> So, what you're saying is the bench wasn't, you know, solid like like >> wasn't solid enough.

[01:35:58]>> There was slats between it.

[01:35:59]>> Yes. Slats.

[01:36:10]>> Could you see anything about um this man's like head posture? How was the position? Was he looking at you? Was it backwards? What was it? Uh he was slouched over, his head was facing downward and his body was slouched forward and and down from your vantage point.

[01:36:37]Well, I should ask ask this.

[01:36:40]Other than looking at at the man, were you looking at anything else like on the ground uh or anything like that? No, most of my attention was focused on on the bench.

[01:36:57]>> So if there was something on the on the ground for say you just weren't paying attention to it.

[01:37:03]>> Yes. I I only remember seeing the blood on the ground >> right before you and Mr. Hallebertton saw this man on the bench. Was there any sort of signs or excuse me, let me strike that. Did you hear or see any sort of fight or struggle in that area before you first saw the man?

[01:37:28]>> No, I did not.

[01:37:33]>> Was there anyone on the bench with him?

[01:37:35]>> No, there was not.

[01:37:41]After that, did one of you call 911?

[01:37:46]>> Yes. Uh, my colleague Ian called in for a wellness check and we waited about five or so minutes for paramedics to arrive and the police.

[01:38:00]>> Thank you, sir. No further questions.

[01:38:02]>> Okay. Thank you, Mr. Dora. Mr. Hutchinson cross.

[01:38:06]>> I have no questions, honor.

[01:38:08]>> All right, Mr. Reynolds, thanks for your testimony.

[01:38:10]>> Thank you.

[01:38:10]>> Yep. have knife.

[01:38:13]>> Okay. And then Mr. Moore, I think you said you had another witness.

[01:38:16]>> Yeah, Patricia Mendy's.

[01:38:18]>> Okay, great. Yeah, if you can just leave that there. Just No, put it right there.

[01:38:22]Yep. All right, let's get Patricia Mendy's.

[01:38:26]>> Yeah.

[01:38:49]>> [clears throat] >> Good afternoon, Miss Mendy's.

[01:39:19]>> Good afternoon.

[01:39:20]>> I'm Judge McAdam. Come on in. And if I could have you stand uh right here at the podium. Thank you for being here.

[01:39:25]Thank you for your patience with me. I'm going to ask the clerk to administer an oath. After you take the oath then I want you to have a seat in the witness stand and we'll have questions for you.

[01:39:33]>> Okay.

[01:39:42]>> I am >> great. If I could have you sit here then we're going to when you get seated we're going to get the spelling of your name.

[01:40:15]My name is Patricia Nes dees.

[01:40:21]>> Thank you, Mr. Deore. Direct examiner.

[01:40:23]>> Thank you, your honor. Good afternoon, Miss Mendy's.

[01:40:26]>> Hello, >> Miss Mendy's. Did you work for uh AMR?

[01:40:31]>> Yes.

[01:40:32]>> And what is AMR?

[01:40:33]>> American Medical Response. It's a private ambulance company that has a contract for 911 calls in Yellow County.

[01:40:40]>> Uh do you currently work for them?

[01:40:42]>> I am retired.

[01:40:43]>> Retired. Congratulations. How many years did you put in with AMR before you retired? Total of 42 years in EMS >> and >> and all but six of those were with AMR.

[01:40:55]>> Very nice. And when did you retire?

[01:40:58]>> May 1st.

[01:40:59]>> May 1st. And you promptly celebrated your retirement with a subpoena to come to court.

[01:41:03]>> Yes. Yes, I did.

[01:41:07]>> With AMR. So, what did you do with AMR?

[01:41:09]>> I'm a par I was a paramedic um on a full-time 911 ambulance.

[01:41:14]>> Okay. What did you do as a paramedic?

[01:41:16]>> Everything.

[01:41:17]Everything that a paramedic is supposed to do, the whole entire scope of practice that we had for Yellow County, >> um, dictates what we're allowed to do and what we're not to do. We can do a little bit of everything.

[01:41:29]>> All right. And I I'll break it down into probably a very overly simplistic, generalized way, but someone makes a 911 call that someone's in distress and or in need of medical attention, you respond there on an ambulance.

[01:41:43]>> Yes. There's a lot more steps in between, but yes, that's pretty much the gist of it.

[01:41:48]>> Kind of skipped over a few. Right now, I want to go to April 27th of 2023.

[01:41:57]Do you remember that date?

[01:41:59]>> Yes.

[01:42:00]>> And did you respond to Central Park in the city of Davis?

[01:42:04]>> Yes.

[01:42:06]>> Now, [clears throat] I forgot to ask something. part of being a paramedic, are you able to pronounce um when someone is deceased?

[01:42:14]>> Yes.

[01:42:18]>> And so did you respond um when you respond, excuse me, when you responded to Central Park, uh did you go to or were you directed to a man who was on a park bench?

[01:42:31]>> We all kind of arrived at the same time and we all just kind of converged.

[01:42:36]Obviously, they said about the person on the park bench, so we were looking for somebody on the park bench. So, we saw him there and everybody kind of converged on the scene.

[01:42:45]>> Okay. When you say we all arrived at the same time, who >> fire and us, >> right? So, you knew what you were looking for when you got there.

[01:42:54]>> Yes.

[01:42:54]>> And obviously you found it, right?

[01:42:56]>> Yes.

[01:42:57]>> And so, describe to me what you saw.

[01:43:01]I saw a very large gentleman, tall and broad. Um, it looked like initially from a distance it looked like he was asleep kind of like this with a blanket around him and like a hoodie kind of thing over his head.

[01:43:16]>> You said and just for the record you said he looked like he was asleep. He had his head back and you you tilted your head back.

[01:43:21]>> Yeah, he was like his head was on the bench.

[01:43:26]And did you in fact learn in observing him that he was not asleep?

[01:43:30]>> Yeah, I could tell he wasn't breathing from across the park. It was >> How could you tell?

[01:43:38]>> People move and they're alive. They move. They breathe. They shake. They itch. You know, they move. He wasn't moving at all. And he couldn't see him breathing.

[01:43:51]>> Did you try to locate a pulse?

[01:43:53]Um it was clearly obvious there was not one.

[01:44:01]Let me try with feeling and with like a stethoscope >> and so no pulse with this individual.

[01:44:10]>> Yeah.

[01:44:11]>> When you observe um and I take it that requires you to obviously get close to the body and to touch the body of this person. Uh do you look for signs um other signs of life other than than a pulse?

[01:44:25]>> Yes, we look for respirations.

[01:44:27]We look for any kind of effort of breathing. We look for um liidity, rigidity, temperature of the skin.

[01:44:37]>> And did all of those things that you just talked about were they they weren't present? Correct.

[01:44:44]>> No, they were not. The cold the temperature he was very cold.

[01:44:48]What's that mean?

[01:44:49]>> That means that he's been there for a while. Um, it was spring, so it wasn't really like cold cold out at night, but it was pretty chilly.

[01:44:58]And his temperature, his he was cold to the touch, so that takes a while. That doesn't happen over, you know, an hour.

[01:45:06]That takes a long time.

[01:45:08]>> Can you say um like give a range for how long that is? It's more than an hour, but can you say range? You know, four hours, eight hours. Well, you got to look at everything. And he was um on that bench. His arms were stiff. His jaw was stiff. Um there was a bunch of coagulated blood underneath him.

[01:45:29]And clear wounds that you could see when looking through the outside of his clothes. You could see lots of wounds.

[01:45:38]>> What type of wounds?

[01:45:39]>> U they appear to be stab wounds.

[01:45:43]And just from your your observation, could you see where they were located?

[01:45:48]>> The ones we could see without moving him or changing things appeared to be mostly on his upper arms and chest.

[01:45:58]Do >> you have an approximate number of how many you were able to see?

[01:46:00]>> I didn't even try to count. There was a lot of them.

[01:46:08]He was wearing a black hoodie and so it was just basically where you could see fluid coming through and the the material of the sweatshirt has a small slices in it.

[01:46:22]>> That fluid consistent um with blood or something.

[01:46:32]>> Did you see that fluid consistent um with blood or did you see did you locate anything around the body which would suggest to you that the that this individual had not been stabbed?

[01:47:03]Well, we figured it probably was a stab wounds. Um, and then as we're kind of checking around the scene to see what else is there, I noticed it looked like a brand new leather sheath for a knife, like a hunting knife or something like that. Um, was on the ground and it was brand new. It doesn't even look like it had been worn in or anything.

[01:47:24]>> And that was was that based on um just the way the the material >> leather? Yeah, leather looks a certain way when you haven't used it. You know, that's was really new. There wasn't any kind of stains or marks or anything on it that I could see.

[01:47:38]>> And how close was it to this individual?

[01:47:41]>> Uh, probably about 3 feet at the most.

[01:47:46]It was very close.

[01:47:48]>> 3 ft away from his his leg.

[01:47:50]>> Yeah.

[01:47:55]>> Did you find a knife anywhere around the body? Yes, sir.

[01:48:02]And did you um pronounce this individual deceased?

[01:48:06]>> Yes, I did.

[01:48:06]>> At what time?

[01:48:07]>> I don't have the tag, so I can't tell you exactly what time.

[01:48:16]>> But you arrived um just after 11:00 a.m.

[01:48:21]>> Yeah. So taking in the scene, realizing what was happening and then thinking, "Oh, we need more help because this is not what it was supposed to be." And we called for um PD and that's when I we had declared him then. So it was probably maybe 15 minutes at the tops.

[01:48:39]It was probably 10 minutes closer to five when we declared him because he had all the obvious signs of death.

[01:48:46]>> When you say closer to five, mean five minutes.

[01:48:48]>> Yeah.

[01:48:50]And so when you say you called PD that means the police department.

[01:48:52]>> Yes.

[01:48:54]>> Now when you declare someone uh deceased that's when you make the official determination but that person could have been there deceased for a lot longer.

[01:49:04]>> Yes.

[01:49:06]>> And that's for >> declaring and pronouncing. There's kind of like a little fine line in there where a doctor does you know the autopsy and says okay this person has been dead this long. When we declare it, that just gives them a broad time stamp of when we found that person.

[01:49:24]>> Understood.

[01:49:27]>> Great. Thank you, Miss Mendy's. No further questions.

[01:49:29]>> Thank you, uh, council. Any cross?

[01:49:31]>> No.

[01:49:32]>> No cross. And Miss Mendes, uh, thank you for your patience again with the court and [clears throat] your testimony. Have a good day.

[01:49:37]>> Thank you.

[01:49:38]>> Thank you. All right, ladies and gentlemen of the jury, then that concludes our our work together, uh, today. And uh remember the three-part admonition at all times. Don't discuss, don't form opinions, don't research. And I will see you back uh tomorrow. Be ready to go at 9:30 here. Department 14.

[01:49:56]Have a great night, folks. Thank you.

[01:50:00]Off the record.

[01:50:23]Well, that ended today's session. So, we had two witnesses, very short witnesses.

[01:50:29]Um, I will get a um premiere set up for anybody that Well, we all missed the opening statements, right? Because I didn't hear the opening statements. I just recorded them for us. So, I will get a premiere for the opening statements from the state and also for the defense.

[01:50:47]Um, I'll put it all together and I'll premiere that. Um, I think it was like maybe an hour or so long. The defenses may have been a little bit longer, but in an hour or two and we'll we'll I'll do it as a premiere and if you want to watch it, awesome. If not, you can come back and watch it later. I know that most of you guys will probably go over to Crime Club, which is fine, but um yeah, I'll go ahead and premiere those tonight um just so I can watch. I'm just waiting for them to finish editing >> right now.

[01:51:20]>> Instruct on reasonable doubt on um evidence is Calcrim 103, 104, and witnesses under 105. So, I'll do that first thing when we start tomorrow. But I intentionally uh wanted to move forward and not delay us. So, I updated you on that. Okay. Uh, great. And then, Mr. Demora, I'll have you meet and confer with the the news um here and you can uh let me know if they've complied uh with the court order. Okay.

[01:51:47]>> We'll do and I'll I'll email uh Madame Clerk and Mr. Hudson as well >> and I'll address it in the morning if there are any problems. I have no reason to believe there'll be a problem on that. Okay. Uh great. And thank you, Mr. Mora, for being ready with your witnesses. Anything else for the people right now?

[01:52:01]>> No.

[01:52:01]>> Okay. Thank you. Anything for the defense?

[01:52:03]>> No, >> all right. So, just be here a few minutes before 9:30.

[01:52:10]>> So, other than that, it appears that they're going to start about 9:30 in the morning. So, I will have that together and do it as a premiere. It shouldn't be that long. Maybe an hour or two. Um, yeah. And I guess that'll take care of what we can do for this evening.

[01:52:29]Yeah. With me recording in the background, it's kind of hard. Yeah, I don't think they're complying. So, we kind of they stopped their feed. I don't know. But we'll see.

[01:52:42]Okay. I know that y'all wanted to hear y'all um Lop bop song. So, I am going to play that again and um we'll check on out of here.

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