Judge Has ENOUGH Of Sovereign Citizen SECRET State Claims

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[00:00:00]I'm not threatening you. Say one more word and that's cont. 30 days.

[00:00:04]>> 30 days.

[00:00:05]>> Hey, what's going on guys? Welcome back to Sovereign Citizens Hall of Fame with your man TP. Today we are at number 213 on our compilation list. Today we will have three judges on this compilation.

[00:00:19]Before I give you those judges names, don't forget to like, comment, share, and subscribe. Also, commentary will be left in if there were any in these proceedings in the past. Also, chapters will be added for your convenience. Now, the three judges courtrooms we will be in on today. First, we will be in the courtroom of Judge Pauline Fion out of the state of Washington. Second, we will be in the courtroom of Judge Tammy Hayward out of the state of Georgia. And last but not least, we will be in the courtroom of Judge Marina Taylor out of the state of Michigan. As always, it is a pleasure to bring you these compilations. And now let's jump in to 213.

[00:01:05]>> We are on the record. Thank you for asking.

[00:01:08]>> Yes, ma'am. I would like to get on the record that I would like to fire my lawyer on.

[00:01:12]>> You don't you don't have a lawyer, remember? You We've already been through this. You represent yourself, >> right? But I the one that's on standby, I would like him replaced with another lawyer.

[00:01:22]>> I'm not going to do that. What's the basis for that? because irre irreconcilable differences. The fact that you had to explain to me what an affirmative defense is when he explained it to me. It was to polar opposites.

[00:01:36]It's nothing that uh we can't we can't it's irreconcilable differences. It's like I would rather work with someone else.

[00:01:45]>> So if you do that sir speedy trial starts over today.

[00:01:51]Disqualification of counsel is a triggering event for new commencement.

[00:01:55]>> Okay. So, I can't replace him without restarting my speedy trial dates.

[00:02:02]>> Correct.

[00:02:04]>> Which will prolong my time in jail?

[00:02:06]>> I don't know that.

[00:02:08]>> Possibly.

[00:02:09]>> Possibly.

[00:02:11]>> All right. So, due to that, it's going to possibly prolong the time I have in jail. I'll do my best to work with this guy.

[00:02:19]>> Okay.

[00:02:20]>> Mr. Evans, do you want me to represent to the court what we had discussed? I mean, you didn't mention what you just mentioned, but the the subpoenas and what you're asking for.

[00:02:30]>> Uh, you you Well, uh, I I I'm going to write a letter to the uh to her. Uh, mail it. I have it mailed out today. I'm going to write a letter to her as well as the Supreme Court of the state of Washington uh with the things that we discussed. But you can let her know the people that I want subpoenaed.

[00:02:50]>> Um, sir, so any letter that you send to the court, you must include the city.

[00:02:55]You have to include the prosecutor or I can't look at it.

[00:02:59]>> Yes, ma'am.

[00:03:00]>> Okay.

[00:03:01]>> What you mean by must include the prosecutor?

[00:03:04]>> You have to send it to them as well.

[00:03:06]>> I'm going to send it to the clerk of court. So they they have they they should >> Nope. It's your burden to serve the city.

[00:03:14]What's the address for the city?

[00:03:16]>> It's the same building.

[00:03:18]>> It's the same building. So, I have to send two different letters.

[00:03:21]>> Yes.

[00:03:22]>> I mean, I have to make a copy of it and send >> I have no way of making a copy from inside the jail.

[00:03:29]>> You'll have to make one long hand then.

[00:03:33]>> Oh. Uh, well, I don't even have the the paper I have is only enough to send one letter. They in the jail they're not even giving me sufficient things to to even properly do what you're asking me.

[00:03:46]>> Um perhaps you could send it to Mr. Inati and then he can serve the city and the >> I I would ask that Mr. Ionady once it's filed the letter that I'm going to mail out once it's filed he make a copy and send it to the prosecutor.

[00:04:00]>> I cannot look at it unless the city is included.

[00:04:04]>> I understand but what I said is that once it's filed that Mr. Danetti gets a copy and send it to the prosecutor and then you can look at it which still should be before my next court date.

[00:04:15]>> So So that's this is the problem with representing yourself sir is that you do not understand the rules of criminal procedure and you can't you are having exparte contact if you send something only to the court and not the city. I'm not in what can you tell the jail give me sufficient paper so I can make two copies because they're not giving me the the what I need to do what you asking me.

[00:04:43]>> Um and that's why I'm suggesting that you send it to Mr. and then he can make copies for both the court and the and the city.

[00:04:51]>> Okay. Mr. Ionetti, is there a way for you to come? Uh is there an address that >> I send this to? I don't have any information on you, Mr. Donetti.

[00:05:01]>> I I believe it's on the paper. The orders that you got should have had our address, but I we'll we'll get you our address today. Um and your honor, I guess what I I spoke with Mr. Evans and he asked me to um let the court know that he intends on subpoenaing subpoenaing Clarence Thomas. Um and then uh the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Louisiana, the Honorable Judge Nanette uh Brown.

[00:05:26]Um he's also asking that we subpoena the Apostle Derry G. McCoy Senior. Um he believes that they're all witnesses for these case for this case or these cases that need to be brought in. Um I I did and I told him that I was able to and he said I could I just want to make sure Mr. Evans I can address the the I the case number that you said. Uh, >> I don't want to, like I said, >> that's a matter of secret state privilege. I don't want you discussing that.

[00:05:58]>> Okay.

[00:05:59]>> Um, so Mr. Evans, um, in order to subpoena people in another state, you need to actually go to the superior court of those states. I we don't neither Mr. nor I have subpoena power that goes beyond the borders of the state of Washington.

[00:06:14]>> Would that be grounds to have this case removed to federal courts?

[00:06:18]>> I I don't believe so. There's not a matter. This is not an issue of federal law. It's not a civil case with um juris with amount in controversy over $75,000.

[00:06:30]Nor is it involving parties in other sides of the states. It I mean in separate states. There's no diversity jurisdiction. There's no subject matter jurisdiction.

[00:06:39]It's definitely uh the restitution is going to exceed $75,000 in the case that I'm found uh innocent by the jury. In addition to that, it would be biased uh by the city based on the witnesses will be able to buy testimony that will uh possibly exonerate me.

[00:07:01]>> I is the city seeking any restitution?

[00:07:05]I I definitely stated that in the letter and I asked Mr. I made that clearly known to Mr. Ionetti if he's doing >> Sir you can't get restitution.

[00:07:16]Um >> I mean I don't know what the basis is for restitution.

[00:07:20]>> If I'm found innocent I would like restitution for my businesses for each day I sat in jail and they uh lost potential money. There is a there is a a rule that provides for that that is not restitution in the in the sense that it would go to federal court. This is not a federal there's nothing in here >> the amount that I'm asking for.

[00:07:42]>> That has nothing to do with it. That's that's a separate issue. Um is the city aware of any issue that would that would cause this case to be removed to federal court?

[00:07:51]>> No.

[00:07:52]>> And not even my rights as a tribal chief.

[00:07:55]>> Um you have asserted that you are a tribal chief. I have seen no evidence of that being true. Just because you say it doesn't make it true.

[00:08:04]>> I gave you the proof, but you needed the physical case in front you which has a seal on it. So even if it's in front you, you still won't be able to see that I'm a tribal chief based on having a case in front you.

[00:08:16]>> It's my understanding that Mr. Ian was able to obtain that document.

[00:08:21]>> Correct. Which is a matter of secret state privilege.

[00:08:25]So I you can't say it's in this document and then not let me see it.

[00:08:32]>> I'm just stating facts. The the that case is a matter of secret state privilege. So that would be grounds would that be grounds to get it transferred to federal court.

[00:08:42]>> The issue is whether you trespassed at the airport, sir. That's the only issue.

[00:08:47]>> I understand. But as a tribal chief, I have the right to have any uh grievances between me and the state heard before the United States Supreme Court due to me representing a sovereign state that's federally and internationally recognized. A sovereign tribe that's federally and internationally recognized.

[00:09:07]>> You won't tell me the name of the tribe.

[00:09:08]You won't show me the document.

[00:09:10]>> It's a matter of secret state privilege.

[00:09:11]Your honor, >> you can't have it both ways.

[00:09:14]>> I'm just stating facts. It's a matter of secret state privilege. So, no. This, as I understand it, the city is not willing to transfer this case to federal court.

[00:09:22]>> Mr. Ironetti, I would like to appeal anything that's being declined. I just want to get this on the record that I want it appeal. Anything that's being declined, I want it appealed.

[00:09:33]>> Sir, you represent yourself. It's up to you to appeal.

[00:09:37]>> Okay, no problem. I I'll send a letter out today uh with a notice of appeal to the Supreme Court of the State of Washington. Um, appeals from courts of limited jurisdiction, which is what we are, go to superior court, not the Supreme Court.

[00:09:52]>> But I I'll try to uh speak to them based on the circumstances that I would like to oblige directly to the state supreme court due to the circumstances and the fact that it's connected to a matter of national and homeland security.

[00:10:08]>> You're going to have to show them proof that that's the issue, too. You can't just say if they >> I will show them the proof. I will show them the proof with no problem. It's on them if they want to do their work and research and diligence to get the answers that they want that they seek. I will show them. Once again, courts are not investigative bodies. They will do no research. They will not um um do an investigation. That is up to you.

[00:10:37]>> I understand. Exactly. and I'm doing an investigation on my behalf and I'm providing everything that they're asking me for.

[00:10:45]They just don't like my answers. I can't I'll deal with that on a federal level when I file a notice to remove once I uh get out of jail because I can't do it.

[00:10:55]Also, if Mr. Ionetti, if you can file a notice to remove with the federal courts or with this court, I would like that as well, please.

[00:11:04]>> U Mr. Inetti, um do you have any concerns about Mr. Evan's ability to proceed.

[00:11:09]>> Uh I I do um I mean I don't have anything to verify any of the claims that he has made and the information and who he's asking for as far as witnesses in this case lead me to believe that there there may be issues.

[00:11:24]>> Um do you think it's appropriate to have him evaluated under 1077?

[00:11:28]>> I do.

[00:11:30]>> Does the city have any objection to the ordering of that evaluation?

[00:11:33]>> I have an objection.

[00:11:35]>> Okay. Can I object?

[00:11:37]>> You can object.

[00:11:38]>> Yes, ma'am. I assure you that I'm 100% competent and I assure you that uh everything I'm saying is true uh as far as civil case 24012 out of St. James Parish, Louisiana. That is a matter of secret state privilege.

[00:11:56]And it also verifies the facts that I'm making that you guys claim you cannot uh prove. But you won't let us see it.

[00:12:07]>> Mr. Ayonetti has to get the case himself.

[00:12:10]>> He has it.

[00:12:12]>> So tell him give it to Tell him to give it to you.

[00:12:16]>> Can I Can I identify the case, Mr. Evans?

[00:12:19]>> Civil case 2412 out of St. James Parish, Louisiana.

[00:12:24]>> Can I Can I identify the case and the information that I have?

[00:12:27]>> Like I said, you can give her civil case 2412 out of St. James Parish, Louisiana.

[00:12:33]If she wants to look over it, it has a seal on that case. So, you're going to have to get permission to get that seal removed.

[00:12:39]>> So, it's my understanding content.

[00:12:41]>> It's my understanding it does not have a seal.

[00:12:44]>> That's the information I have is it does not have a seal. It's a 1996 case. Blue Harvest Maritime versus Opal Evans. It was a suit for damages.

[00:12:52]>> That's that's the guise that it's under, but the true contents of that case is under seal. I assure you.

[00:12:59]>> And Mr. Guarantee it. I'm not the only person who can take it out of steel.

[00:13:04]>> I'm not guessing. I'm guaranteeing it because I I receive I became the chief of a federally and internationally recognized tribe when my father passed in 1993 and everything was made official with that case in 96. I guarantee it.

[00:13:22]>> So if it goes to me, it goes to the city as well. And are you okay with that?

[00:13:26]I would like to have it sealed due to the fact that it's going to expose innocent life in court.

[00:13:33]>> It's a matter of public ser it's a matter of public record and it's not filed under seal. I can't I can't I can't I don't know what the justification is for sealing it in this court >> that it it's going to affect innocent life including the names that he named that I don't want named with public uh to have public access to those names on that case and whatnot.

[00:13:58]It's it's definitely going to affect innocent life and it's connected to a matter of national and homeland security.

[00:14:05]>> Mr. What you were able to what what you have in your possession is a matter of public record. Is that right?

[00:14:12]>> The information I just have is what the court clerk told me. I can she indicated that I can pay a dollar a page for the file. They didn't they weren't able to tell me how many pages were in the file.

[00:14:21]Um they said it was archived based on the age. Um it is um I mean it is a state court. Um, and it's they indicated it was a suit for damages and they not consistent.

[00:14:39]>> It's connected to my estates that I have plural.

[00:14:45]Is it all making sense now?

[00:14:48]>> No.

[00:14:50]>> And there's only Mr. Evans indicated that there's something in the file that's only one person has the ability to unseal, >> which Roberts >> and that's not consistent with the way the law works. So I >> I'm the rarity I'm the rarity in this case. I assure you >> that's where my concern is. And I I mean the amount of money that could be for the amount of documents in the file, I I'd have to ask if the court wants me to try and make that request to get that I I can make that request. I would need funds from the court and I don't know how much. Um, but I a state case that that would be doing what Mr. Evans claims is not consistent with my understanding of the law. And the fact that a chief justice is the only one that could unseal something within that case is also not consistent with my understanding how the law works.

[00:15:45]>> Particularly if it's a state case, I don't see how Chief Justice Roberts would be involved at all. Not to mention, it sounds like this was predates him being chief justice >> because it's a matter of secret state privilege and it's also connected to the United Nations.

[00:16:00]>> Sir, you have two choices. Either to stop asserting this or get the document.

[00:16:05]Um, >> if Mr. can get the documents, I would appreciate it.

[00:16:09]>> The fact that you just say a thing doesn't mean anything. You have to have the proof.

[00:16:15]>> The only way I can get the documents is for Mr. Ionetti to get it. Otherwise, I can't do it from in jail. If you could give me a PR bond, I would definitely get those documents for you myself.

[00:16:25]>> The problem, sir, is you just keep committing new or alleged to have just keep committing new crimes >> allegedly, but I assure you I'm innocent.

[00:16:34]>> Um, so were you able to obtain any documents, Mr. >> Not without I'd have to get funding from the court to obtain.

[00:16:45]>> And they said it was an archive. The person that I spoke to said it was in archive and they can they're they were in they were willing to go down and and get it and and make copies, but they said it's a dollar a page.

[00:16:57]>> Is it all or nothing? I mean that you have to get the whole file or none of the file.

[00:17:00]>> I don't I because I I don't know the answer to that question. I can try and see if there was a judgment out of that case that I can just get the judgment, but I don't know specifically what I'm looking for because Mr. Evans told me that what I'm looking for is under seal that only Chief Justice Roberts can get me. And I don't think I need to contact Chief Justice Roberts and ask him to give me the document out of that case.

[00:17:20]>> If I'm lying about Chief Justice Roberts, trust me, these state charges, these petty charges are the least of my concern.

[00:17:28]>> I can I can write a letter to Chief Justice Roberts, but I I don't know what that will accomplish.

[00:17:36]>> Can they tell you if anything is sealed?

[00:17:38]>> That's I asked and they said they said there's nothing sealed in that case.

[00:17:42]>> Okay. Okay. Well, that says something right there.

[00:17:44]>> But Mr. Evans indicated, and is this okay that I say this, Mr. Evans, that what you want is only what Chief Justice Roberts can release.

[00:17:52]>> Correct. It's a matter of secret state privilege. So, it's not going to it's going to you're going to be able to see, but you're not going to be able to see, so to speak, because they they the Supreme Court of the United States of America has it set up that way purposely for these type of purposes.

[00:18:10]I'm not aware of them having these this this procedure, >> right? Because you if you're not familiar with the rights of a sovereign state and a sovereign tribe, you wouldn't know the ins and outs, but it's a matter of life and death that I know this and that I have the knowledge of what I'm talking about.

[00:18:32]>> Mr. Anand, I would authorize funds for um you to obtain the judgment. I'll give you up to um $100. Okay. Um, I am ordering a 1077 evaluation. I have concerns about Mr. Evans ability to proceed. So, this is on the court's initiative.

[00:18:47]Um, >> is this going to delay my trial?

[00:18:50]>> I'm leaving the trial date set where it is. Um, Miss Chen Miller, um, I'm assuming that there's no immunity agreement between you and Mr. Evans.

[00:18:59]>> I would like to put one in place if possible, an immunity agreement based on the right on the fact. So this just would this would be with regard to your conversation with the evaluator. It's not immunity from this case.

[00:19:14]>> Okay. So I have to speak with the evaluator >> to get this done.

[00:19:17]>> Pardon? Pardon?

[00:19:18]>> City would not object to that to get this done.

[00:19:21]>> Can I make an objection to that?

[00:19:23]>> To what?

[00:19:25]>> The order for the 1077.

[00:19:27]>> Yes. And you have you have objected. I'm ordering it anyway.

[00:19:32]Can I appeal to the Supreme Court or to the appellet courts?

[00:19:39]>> I can't give you legal advice. I mean, I can give you >> Diane, I would like to appeal that decision uh that the judge made to the uh Supreme Court of the State of Washington directly due to it being a matter connected to national and homeland security.

[00:19:55]>> I'll I'll come and talk to you about how you filed it file an appeal. Um, your honor and and this is Yes. Okay. The court checked the right box for this.

[00:20:04]So, the city's indicated that they don't have an objection to an immunity agreement. Doesn't sound like Mr. >> And I also would like to have a notice to remove this case due to bias and prejudice to the federal courts, please.

[00:20:21]>> That's not a basis to remove a case to the Supreme Court. I mean to the federal court.

[00:20:27]Bias and prejudice is not a reason.

[00:20:30]>> No.

[00:20:33]>> And violation of my constitutional rights as well and civil rights.

[00:20:42]>> I think that would be a very valid reason. But I I'll I'll let you go with your decision if you failed. If you are >> It's up to you, sir. If you you can file to remove it. I'm you do you.

[00:20:54]>> Mr. Ionetti, can you please file a motion, a notice to remove to the federal courts based on violation of constitutional and civil rights, please?

[00:21:03]>> I will come talk to you about how you can do that.

[00:21:06]>> Would you like Mr. Anati there at the evaluation?

[00:21:09]>> No.

[00:21:11]>> Unless we're are we're going to be talking about anything legal.

[00:21:15]>> I have no idea, sir. That's between you and the evaluator.

[00:21:18]>> Yeah. If we're talking about anything legal, I want him him there as standby counsel to explain any my legal rights uh far as my legal rights constitutionally and statewise. But uh if it's just questions regarding my competency, I can handle that on my own.

[00:21:38]But once it goes into um my rights and whatnot, I definitely need counsel available.

[00:21:45]>> U Mr. Sorry Nadi, do based on your experience, do they discuss rights other than informing defendants of their rights?

[00:21:52]>> They the the my experience is that they tell them that uh that they're going to write a report and anything that they say to them is going to be included in the report. Um they ask them about their understanding of what the charges are and what their understanding of what the court's role in the case is. I don't believe they ask the person to give up any rights or do anything of that nature. Typically, >> if they're just asking me if I understand uh my rights and if I understand the charges, I completely understand that. I could tell you now being charged with trespassing. And the definition of trespassing according to the state is to enter a building uh to enter a building without permission knowingly uh I mean unknowingly enter knowingly or >> that's okay. You I I I I believe that you you know that what >> wants to check the box that that he he wants us present then that's fine and they can notify us and we'll make we'll make an effort to be there for or schedule with them when it works out.

[00:23:00]No, I don't want I don't want them there if it doesn't have it uh if the questions aren't pertaining to anything legally. I don't want them there. If it's just questions regarding my sanity, I can do that myself.

[00:23:13]>> Okay.

[00:23:14]>> That's my understanding. The only legal questions really they ask is your understanding of the judicial system.

[00:23:19]>> Well, yeah, I can do that myself.

[00:23:21]>> Okay. All right. Um I'm setting a return date for that of June 14th. I'm not striking the trial date at this time.

[00:23:29]We'll leave it where it is. So, we will see you back here for the readiness hearing will be your next hearing, sir.

[00:23:35]>> Okay. And the subpoenas, you said you won't be able to honor the uh M.

[00:23:39]>> It's not a matter of honoring. I don't have the power. My my my power and Mr. Anat's power ends at the at the borders of the state of Washington.

[00:23:48]>> Okay. Would that be grounds for having this case removed uh to the federal courts being that I have witnesses that will be able to uh testify on my behalf that you guys don't have the power to subpoena?

[00:24:03]>> So, it's no um the fact that witnesses are out of state is is not grounds to transfer case to federal court. The parties, it's a matter of diversity of the parties. Um that's my understanding of federal law.

[00:24:18]This is something you should discuss with a lawyer though. I am not a federal I don't do federal practice. So I'm not um you know I haven't really thought about this since law school to be honest but um you can have this conversation with Mr. >> Also also I would like that Mr. Ayan to uh file a motion to suppress any witness statements or testimony.

[00:24:39]>> You had to do that.

[00:24:42]>> Okay. But I'm putting it on record that I want the witness statement suppressed or any testimony that they're providing because they have incentive via the case that I provided you possibly to provide false testimony. So, a case that no one knows what's in it and that's going to bias your witnesses >> based on the fact that they could be under non-disclosure agreements, which is kind of like what's going on with that case.

[00:25:15]>> Okay?

[00:25:15]>> That case is a matter of secret state privilege. So, of course, you're not going to be able to just look at it and see exactly what's going on with it other than taking my word and contacting the Chief Justice Roberts who will send superseding orders as I stated in the letter.

[00:25:33]>> I suggest that you write to Chief Justice Roberts then for assistance because I don't know I >> once I go through the appellet process, I assure you I will and I I I can assure you he's paying attention to what's going on.

[00:25:45]>> Okay. All right. Well, we will see you back here then for readiness. Thank you, sir. Bail remains as previously said. Do we need a Do we need a commitment order, Madame Clerk? Or can the Oh, you've got one in here or I put one in here, I guess. Okay.

[00:26:00]>> I don't mean to add to any difficulty, but the city wants to be sure that it is prepared uh and clear on its obligations. So, the court is leaving the jury trials previously set. So, we do have readiness on was that June 12th we had set up for?

[00:26:19]>> It does come. It does come two days before we we'll likely have the evaluation.

[00:26:24]>> Great. Um, so the city will go through its normal witness list and subpoena process. Uh just so the defendants's aware uh he had mentioned or named uh Lance Little, director of operation at CCK International Airport as a potential defense witness uh at the last hearing.

[00:26:46]We're not going to subpoena >> again. If he's a defense witness, that would be the allegation of the defendant. Just to be clear on that, >> I would also like to subpoena the Kitsap airport.

[00:26:59]um uh CEO that uh of the airport that goes to the airport. Kitaporter Charter Bus is the name of the company.

[00:27:14]Kitap Airport. I would like to subpoena that guy as well.

[00:27:18]>> Yeah. And just to be clear, that's defendants's responsibility and he would need to provide that information to the city as well.

[00:27:28]Mr. Ayonetti, are you taking notes? I >> I will come to you. You represent yourself, Mr. Evans. So, I'll come to you and explain how you can get that done.

[00:27:35]>> My hands are tied inside the jail. I don't even I don't even have enough paper.

[00:27:40]>> So, Mr. Evans, I'm going to come talk to you and give you the paperwork so that it can get done and then once it's prepared, I can file it for you.

[00:27:46]>> And so, just to be clear, even though we are leaving the jury trial on because the court entered the order for the compy evaluation per court rule, the speed trial uh is Thank you. And the city was ordered to provide discovery to the defendant.

[00:28:06]>> What Mr. Do you know that the best way to get to that to him in score?

[00:28:13]>> Is there um I think if if there is if if I mean is there other stuff other than paper copies? Is there anything else other than documents? I >> a potential 91 copy of everything.

[00:28:30]>> There's a potential 911 recording.

[00:28:33]There's uh custodial statements I read uh that's involved as well. I don't have access. I don't have any of that and I would like a full discovery. Everything that the uh city or state's going to use in the trial >> and you have a right to that, sir.

[00:28:52]>> I haven't gotten it yet.

[00:28:56]M >> we I can print everything off that's printable. Um as far as electron if there's anything electronic is the only issue. I don't know what um and I can I can go there and play it for him.

[00:29:07]>> And also what case is it that we're taking a trial on the 24th because I didn't get that information. That information wasn't specified either as well. I know and and I said this sir at the time we'll set all of them for the same day and then based on witness availability and based on what makes sense we'll just figure out which one goes first that day.

[00:29:28]>> Thank you for clearing that up your honor.

[00:29:29]>> Yeah. And I I'm just repeating myself sir.

[00:29:33]>> It never was made clear to me when uh it was officially done. So, I thank you for clearing that up for me, as well as officially explaining to me what a affirmative defense was that Mr. Ionad couldn't legibly or competently explain to me, which is why I wanted him fired.

[00:29:57]>> Mr. Inat, I may need to email you then on if I when I review the cases further if there's electronic discovery that needs to be sent to the defendant. Okay.

[00:30:15]All right. Thank you, sir. We'll see you back here on the 12th.

[00:30:19]>> Thank you.

[00:30:22]>> All right. So, um, Miss Ebony um, Milner is present. Um, also the, um, Mr. Brown who's on here on behalf of Federal National Mortgage Association. Mr. Uh Brown, Miss Milner, is my understanding that this was heard in magistrate court and this is um a um request for appeal.

[00:30:45]Is that correct?

[00:30:46]>> Uh yes, your honor. This this a petition for review from a dispossessory judgement. She was a tenant at sufference post foreclosure.

[00:30:56]>> Okay. All right. Um so, Miss Milner, tell me what's going on.

[00:31:04]Um, judge. Well, this is a case in of land rights, tribal law and treaties.

[00:31:12]>> No, ma'am. No.

[00:31:13]>> And I was just like to say that I am a tribal member, part of the Cash Box Trust Tribe.

[00:31:19]>> No ma'am.

[00:31:20]>> Governments?

[00:31:21]>> No ma'am. We're not doing that.

[00:31:22]>> And American Indian land owner?

[00:31:24]>> No, ma'am. So, we're not doing all that.

[00:31:27]So, this is a simple eviction. Um, so you can tell me how much was owed, how much you paid, whether there's anything to um to that allowed you to stay in the property, or whether there's money owed to you. Um, I don't do the whole trust, tribe, all of that, cuz that's not what we >> Well, that's what this in is in regards to.

[00:31:47]>> Well, then, ma'am, that's not what we're doing here. Um, I would either have to transfer you to a a tribal court, which I don't know if one exists for you, um, or for superior court because this involves a foreclosure. Essentially, he bought the house through a foreclosure.

[00:32:02]You were a tenant in the house at the time, um, or you own the house and he bought it um, under the foreclosure and then it was whether you get to stay in the house and pay rent or whether you're going to be evicted. Am I clear, Mr. Brown?

[00:32:16]>> Yes, your honor. and uh >> because I don't deal with all I went to law school for um three years, have practiced law for over 30 years, have been a judge for over 12 years. I don't do the trust stuff because that's some arcane esoteric stuff that you all um believe that we don't follow here in the judicial system.

[00:32:37]>> I understand. Well, I would also like to say that I'm not here to handle any of my private affairs in the public.

[00:32:45]>> Okay. So, I'm not sure what that means.

[00:32:47]you you asked for the appeal.

[00:32:49]>> Um, yes. And as I was stating, I'm a tribal member, part of the Cashbox Trust Tribe and also an Indian American land owner. So, um, this case is in regards to, um, trust and tribal land.

[00:33:06]>> So, the property, the foreclosure is on a house on tribal land.

[00:33:10]>> Correct.

[00:33:11]>> Which tribe?

[00:33:13]>> I'm sorry.

[00:33:14]>> Which tribe? this the ebony.

[00:33:18]>> No sir, I don't don't know of that tribe, ma'am. So, um, we >> Yes. And all the documentation had been on put on file as well.

[00:33:27]>> Okay. Post >> for So, here's the thing. Um, like I said, I've explained to you that if somebody purchases a a home through foreclosure, then the people who are who were owners of the home or buying the home have two options. They can leave or they can be treated as tenants in the home. And in this case, it appears that Mr. Brown's client um sought to evict you. Um and now you are um asking for a review of that. So in my role in this court, I can go through the case as if it was never heard in magistrate court.

[00:34:01]But what I will tell you is I'm going to ask very specific questions. I'm going to follow the law under the state of Georgia with respect to uh landlord tenant. And if you're not able to provide me that information, then I'm going to determine that you're not able to um prosecute the case in in the way that it needs to be and I'll dismiss it for want prosecution.

[00:34:22]>> Well, again, um American tribal land owner, so the those laws >> that you may speak of don't apply to me.

[00:34:31]>> No. Well, then okay. I'm going to dismiss your uh appeal for one of prosecution. Um the court does not have uh jurisdiction over American tribal land, nor is there a designation of this property being a tribe um tribal land.

[00:34:45]So at this point, the court is going to dismiss this for war prosecution. Thank you. All right. Next, >> Miss Wford.

[00:35:04]Now calling the matter of the people versus Cinnamon Wford Woodford. This is ticket number P12 7275.

[00:35:14]Count one, no plate on a trailer. Count two, no insurance misdemeanor. Count three, drive while license suspended.

[00:35:22]Appearance for the record, starting with I don't think council is represented in this matter. So Miss Woodford, state your name for the record, please. Um, I'm here by special appearance by co-act.

[00:35:36]>> And what's your name?

[00:35:38]>> Cinnamon.

[00:35:40]>> Last name, too.

[00:35:42]>> Wood forward.

[00:35:44]>> All right. Ma'am, now you know you have the right to have an attorney in this particular matter. This is a misdemeanor matter. Um, and by right under law, you're you have the right to have a representative um in the form of an attorney for this particular matter.

[00:36:00]Would you like to have an attorney in this matter?

[00:36:03]>> Um, I do not consent to these proceedings. The offer is not accepted.

[00:36:07]I do not consent to being shorty of this case and proceedings. I demand the bond be brought forth immediately so I can see who will identify me if I'm damaged.

[00:36:17]>> Okay. So the question that I asked is that did you want to have an attorney provided for you in this particular matter? Miss >> I do not consent to these proceedings.

[00:36:28]The offer is not accepted. I do not consent to being shorty of this case and proceedings. I demand the bomb be immediia brought forth so I can see who will demnify me if I'm damaged.

[00:36:36]>> Okay, Miss Wford, you're quoting from civil well, not even civil procedure right now. You're quoting from the UCC.

[00:36:44]This is a criminal traffic matter. So those proceedings govern these type of cases and these type of matters.

[00:36:52]>> What crime did I commit?

[00:36:53]>> Miss Miss Worker, if you do not wish to participate, then what ends up happening is that this matter will go into a show cause. After the show cause, then it will enter into what's called a bench warrant for your arrest until you handle this matter, at least the misdemeanor. And these are all misdemeanor offenses. So that's how this is handled on this particular end and this particular point. The offenses that have been alleged at this point in time is that there were no plate on your trailer, that there was no insurance on a Chevy vehicle, that's a 2007 Chevy vehicle, and that the driver's license was suspended that you had. And so those are the offenses that have been alleged at this point in time. Right now, they are just allegations. So, you have the right to have an attorney, which I don't know if you would like to have that right or not. You have the right to have a jury trial. You have the right to have a bench trial. A jury trial is a trial before six people of the community in the city of Detroit who come and they will hear the facts and based on the evidence and based on the law would make a decision. A bench trial is the same thing. only a judge being myself would sit there and I would hear those same facts and evidence and apply the same law in the same way. You also have the right to um plead to these matters.

[00:38:15]There can be an author >> I'm not here to plead, ma'am.

[00:38:18]>> Miss Miss Wford, these are your choices.

[00:38:20]So, it's up to you. It's a decision that you have to make. It's not going to go away. Okay? Just because you want it to go away, it's not going to go away.

[00:38:29]There is jurisdiction for it. So, it's your decision on today. If you don't want to participate, then it's going to go into show cause because you didn't you can keep coming and it's just going to hang out there. But eventually, we're going to have to adjudicate this matter at some point in time because it cannot remain on this docket indefinitely. So, you have to make some decisions as to what you would like to do with these matters.

[00:38:54]>> Well, I still do not consent to to these proceedings.

[00:38:59]>> Okay. So, if you do not want to participate, I'm going to be forced to put it into what's called a warrant. You have to participate. So, you have you have to come in and and ready to go with something. Um, I know you don't you may not like it, but as as a person who is a citizen of the United States of America, who is a person who lives in Michigan and is utilizing the services of our world and our community, this is these are the things that have been alleged.

[00:39:28]Now, if you're saying that the officer wasn't, you know, correct in those or something, your license was valid or you had car insurance and you can present all of that, then we can try and figure out if we can get a new offer or something different. But other than that, you do have to stand for these particular um allegations that have been made at this point in time.

[00:39:49]>> Well, I never had a driver's license, so I still don't consent to any of these proceedings.

[00:39:57]So, I mean, I still don't consent to these proceedings. The offer is not accepted.

[00:40:09]So, >> ma'am, you can stop reading that. I know they've given you a a a line cue that you are able to to read off of. Um, but they this is as long as you utilize the services of everything in the in the city of Detroit and you fail to do those things. This is this is the ticket that proceeds. But I don't know that you failed. You said you don't have a license. But did you have car insurance at that time that you can present? No. Um, >> was it a trailer on the back of the vehicle?

[00:40:47]>> Judge, I I'm sorry. I know I'm not on this case, but if I could file an amigus brief of sort. Judge, I'm a little uneasy with this is Matthew Dupri, uh, P80132. I'm a little uneasy with the questioning here just because technically if this matter were set for trial, what she says here could be used against her. Uh, and so I'm not I'm not sure she should necessarily be answering those questions.

[00:41:09]>> You want your representation, Mr. Dree?

[00:41:12]>> She did not, Judge.

[00:41:14]>> Did you ask her if she wanted your representation?

[00:41:17]>> I did, your honor.

[00:41:18]>> Did the court ask her if she wanted her representation?

[00:41:20]>> You did, your honor.

[00:41:22]You can continue to talk, Mr. Depri. I appreciate you stepping in on her behalf.

[00:41:27]>> I I appreciate that, Judge. Your honor, I'm just uh a little I just thought I would make that representation. Uh just I don't think the city attorney would actually pull the transcripts, but uh it is worth noting that anything she said here, you know, could come back. So, it might I'm not sure that necessarily that that questioning would be appropriate.

[00:41:44]Sorry, judge. Thank you.

[00:41:46]>> You're welcome. Thank you, Mr. Dree. I appreciate you coming in to step to the rescue of Miss Woodard so that she understands.

[00:41:54]>> Miss Woodford >> Woodford. Sorry, ma'am. Miss Woodford.

[00:41:58]Miss Woodford.

[00:42:01]>> So, how do you want to move forward with this?

[00:42:05]>> Well, I'm not here to plea cuz I'm okay.

[00:42:08]>> I'm not here to ple.

[00:42:13]>> Are you making that determination for me, ma'am?

[00:42:15]>> You have to have a bench or a jury trial. You told me you don't want to plead, that's fine. You probably should have a jury trial then.

[00:42:22]>> And I don't have any jury trials for this year.

[00:42:25]>> Are you making that determination for me, ma'am?

[00:42:28]>> If you don't make the determination, yes, the court is making a determination for you. Yes, because I have to I have to move I have to move it. So, it's it's either um Well, Dupree, can I have a bench trial now? I don't want to violate anything. No, judge, she has to explicitly wave her right to a jury trial and strictly speaking, she has to do it in writing.

[00:42:52]So, um I I would say if I I would say if she's refu if she's saying she will not plead, that would be standing mute and I think the court would have to set up for a jury trial.

[00:43:01]>> Okay, that's all right. So, I'm going to have to set this for a jury trial.

[00:43:12]Listen.

[00:43:49]and judge. She logged off.

[00:43:56]>> She was frozen. So, it may just be her system. I'm going to give her a second to sign back on. If she doesn't sign back on, I'll just put her in warrant status. But if she signs back on, I'm gonna try and give her at least a jury trial. Either >> Sorry about that. I had a um a very bad power surge.

[00:44:16]>> I figured as much. So, no. Back on the record, I figured that it happened because you kind of froze up and my clerk informed me that you froze completely. So, I >> Okay. Okay. Thank you.

[00:44:27]>> You're welcome. Okay. So, I'm setting this for a jury trial because the alternate is that I can put this in warrant and I don't want to do that unless I necessarily have to. So, at that point in time, you can be able to have your day in court. Just say whatever you want to say at that point in time.

[00:44:49]>> Okay.

[00:44:50]>> Okay. All right. So, I'm going to But I have to do a pre-trial because I don't have any dates right now, but I have your name down. But that will give you the opportunity. You'll be able to talk to the jurors. You will have the opportunity to have testimony taken. I know you don't want counsel, but you can have the right to have counsel at that point in time. Would you like to have me assign counsel to you?

[00:45:14]>> I need effective counsel at that.

[00:45:17]>> Okay. How about would you like to have counsel assigned to you?

[00:45:21]>> Yes.

[00:45:22]>> Okay. So, I'll get some council assigned to you, but I'm going to have you come back to make sure that that council is assigned to you. Um, I am going to need some information from you, but not online. This is public to you. This is public to everybody and I don't want them to have your business.

[00:45:40]Can you call the ends, ma'am?

[00:45:44]>> Yes.

[00:45:45]>> Okay. You ready to take down the number for me?

[00:45:48]>> Yes. One second, please. I have to grab a pen. Okay.

[00:45:54]Okay, one second.

[00:45:56]>> No problem.

[00:45:59]>> Okay, I'm ready, ma'am.

[00:46:01]>> 313 >> Mhm.

[00:46:04]>> 965 >> 965 >> 22 >> Uhhuh.

[00:46:11]>> 93 >> 93. We're just going to need like your phone number and an email address and then council will reach out to you and you'll be able to talk to them and then let let me know. I'm going to have you come back to court on 920 2022 just to make sure you have counsel in place and then we'll try and see if I have any dates. I'm going to ask them can I have some dates for next year for jury trial or this year if they have some. I would like to do them this year but I'm going to see what I can do.

[00:46:39]Okay. 8:30 a.m. I'm going to set your bond at $0 personal. All that means is that you just come back on your own. No money is put down into place. Okay? So, okay. Call the courtroom so I can get that information so I can send it over so that we can get you counsel assigned to you directly. Okay? So that way you can handle this. You can have your day in court. You can say whatever you want to say within reason. You know, this is courthouse, so you gota can't you haven't used any bad language or anything like that, and that's what I'm really referring to. Okay. And you'll have your time and your day in court to dispute these matters. Okay.

[00:47:17]>> Okay. Thank you.

[00:47:19]>> You're very welcome. If there's nothing further, that concludes this hearing.

[00:47:22]You can go ahead and sign off, ma'am.

[00:47:23]Okay.

[00:47:24]>> Okay. Have a good one.

[00:47:26]>> You too. Thank you. Don't forget to call.

[00:47:29]>> Okay.

[00:47:30]>> Thank you.

[00:47:34]Nonvoling the matter of the people versus Cinnamon Wood.

[00:47:38]This is ticket P121 17275.

[00:47:43]Count one, no plates on trailer. Count two, no insurance misdemeanor. Count three, drove while license suspended.

[00:47:50]Ticket number SP11227.

[00:47:55]Count one, no receipt of registration.

[00:47:57]Count two, no proof of insurance.

[00:48:00]Appearances for the record starting with council please.

[00:48:05]>> Good morning. Harry Boffman for the defendant. Ma'am, state your full name.

[00:48:10]>> Senator Woodford.

[00:48:11]>> Good morning, Miss Woodford. Your honor, the defendant is continuing and not guilty. We asking for a waiver trial date by way of Zoom, please.

[00:48:20]>> All right. If that's correct, ma'am, can you please raise your right hand?

[00:48:24]>> Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? Yes, ma'am.

[00:48:30]>> You can put your hand down. Ma'am, did you have an opportunity to talk to attorney Bman in private about your case and about your rights?

[00:48:37]>> Yes, ma'am.

[00:48:39]>> My understanding you would like to have a bench trial. That's a trial before myself as the trier and finder facts. Is that how you want to move forward, ma'am?

[00:48:47]>> Yes, ma'am.

[00:48:48]>> All right. I'm going to set it for the date of December the 5th. December the 5th. That's going to be at 900 a.m. It is going to be via Zoom. So, the same way you zoomed in today, zoom in on December the 5th, 900 am. Okay. Bond to be set at Z personal.

[00:49:06]>> There's nothing threatening. You're all set. Okay.

[00:49:09]>> Okay. Thank you.

[00:49:11]>> You're welcome. Have a good day.

[00:49:13]>> You too.

[00:49:13]>> I'm not threatening you. Say one more word and that's cont 30 days. 30 days.