Child Exploitation is a Crime

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[00:02:11]13 to Kent saying live and [ __ ] at night. Let's take a second and tell everyone hello and say we're live and [ __ ] I will never get over that phrase ever in my life.

[00:02:28][music] [music] >> [music] >> Okay. So, here we go. Um, going to go ahead and let everyone know that there is an issue with a certain group of people.

[00:03:05]Hopefully, my sound is good.

[00:03:09]I hope it is at least.

[00:03:12]I don't know where the hell Lisa K Ruitz is. I'm waiting for her to bust through the door. I'm telling you.

[00:03:22]I will say I'm very very Here she is.

[00:03:26]Hello, Lisa K. What is up?

[00:03:31]>> Hello, Brooks.

[00:03:33]>> Hello, Lisa.

[00:03:36]>> What's going on? I can't see chat.

[00:03:40]Crap.

[00:03:41]>> Okay. Gina just said, "WTF? Are you really live and [ __ ] What a day. Three in a row." I see you said you're fine.

[00:03:50]September angel said, "Hello." Um, let's go ahead and jump a group of women that like to exploit children.

[00:04:01]And so that's what I'm going to start with.

[00:04:04]>> Okay.

[00:04:11]Okay. Um, since Jordan was recording me, I thought turnabout fair play and so I hit the record button as well. Okay.

[00:04:26]>> I have zero idea where Let me call Aggie and Laura real quick.

[00:04:34]Um, give me a second.

[00:04:56]>> I'll get a hold of them. Okay.

[00:04:59]>> Okay.

[00:05:01]But either way, I told her that is currency in the jail.

[00:05:08]>> Yeah. You said something about $400 a picture or something like that. And I never want to talk about it.

[00:05:12]>> So, I don't know who all got the money from that. And I know you didn't do it.

[00:05:17]>> What?

[00:05:18]>> However, someone did. It could be Shelby for his commissary.

[00:05:24]It could be Ernie. I mean, >> why is she telling people publicly that it's a different picture than what she's sending you?

[00:05:33]>> I've never seen the picture.

[00:05:36]>> You said that's not the one she sent me.

[00:05:40]>> You just said that.

[00:05:41]>> Um, she described the picture and it's not the one that you described to me.

[00:05:48]>> Wow. I don't know where she Oh, so she's taking pictures of my daughter in her bathing suit when we're on the beach or something like what? What the [ __ ] >> Well, okay. Have you gone on vacation with Casey?

[00:06:05]>> Me?

[00:06:06]>> Yeah, you.

[00:06:08]>> What? Hell no. I've never even seen her face to face. She doesn't have my address or my phone number. At least I never gave it to her. Oh, >> dear God. I have all that information and I don't bother you. Um, and we fight back and forth all the time. Does anyone want to see my superhero?

[00:06:27][music] >> Oh lord.

[00:06:39]>> Be kidding me. Hey, cool gamer. My goodness.

[00:06:45]Um Sarah said, "Seriously, bunch of Maretta's in here." I don't know.

[00:06:50]>> What does that mean?

[00:06:51]>> I have no idea. No idea. So, let's get to it because um people have been selling her daughter's picture around the jail.

[00:07:02]>> No.

[00:07:04]>> Well, absolutely not. It >> No. I sent it to him on his tablet. He looked at it. He erased it. You can't sell it because it's on his tablet.

[00:07:14]How's You can't get it off of there.

[00:07:19]>> Okay. So Shelby Shell got a picture of her daughter that she said you stole from her Facebook.

[00:07:29]>> Okay.

[00:07:29]>> Uh it might have came from her Facebook.

[00:07:31]I don't know. It was uh her first day of school. Are we going to get in trouble for talking about her daughter?

[00:07:38]>> No. No, not at all.

[00:07:42]>> But nobody sold it. Nobody got any money for it. What is she talking about? It just gets worse and worse and worse, doesn't it?

[00:07:50]>> Well, I think what it comes down to is when someone has something on their tablet, they share tablets and it come becomes um it becomes a commissary.

[00:08:04]>> No, that doesn't happen. They don't share tablets. It's your tablet.

[00:08:10]>> Well, you trust inmates way more than correction officers do.

[00:08:17]Um, correction officers see those pictures, but that's No, no, no, that didn't happen. You don't sell they get they they get enough, you know, they get magazines and stuff with the creepy women. You know, you can't say that they beat up pedophiles in prison and then say that they're selling a picture of a girl on her first day of school. No. Does that make sense to you?

[00:08:56]>> No. Because I've never done it.

[00:09:00]>> No. No.

[00:09:02]>> Have never sent anything to an inmate.

[00:09:06]I've never have done it.

[00:09:09]a lot of people on YouTube have.

[00:09:12]>> Well, I'm not.

[00:09:12]>> So, she also she sent me a recording from her daughter to send to Shelby, which I did not do. Think that's kind of weird. She said she couldn't wait till he got out and could do a photo shoot with her daughter. That's a little weird.

[00:09:33]>> Yeah. Yeah. I have her.

[00:09:36]Dear goodness, >> you don't care about anyone but yourself. You're a loser. Well, hopefully this show changes your mind.

[00:09:50]>> What did they say? Oh, I can't.

[00:09:53]>> Oh, this is rapper. He's in a bad mood.

[00:09:55]It's okay.

[00:09:57]>> Oh, okay.

[00:09:59]>> I mean, obviously she stole she got something off your Facebook and we're friends on Facebook.

[00:10:05]>> Yeah. My Facebook has that kind of stuff. Us at the beach, us at the dunes.

[00:10:09]Uh that's what we do.

[00:10:11]>> Okay. And so she sent a picture to Shelby of your daughter with a backpack on.

[00:10:21]>> Why don't she send picture to Shelby of herself?

[00:10:25]>> Yeah.

[00:10:26]>> Yeah. For real.

[00:10:29]>> Why have children?

[00:10:32]>> Why have All right.

[00:10:34]I need to sew my whole chat with her. It goes back five years. She's even trying to say now that she never met me through that GG justice for the kids. That's exactly where we left.

[00:10:45]>> I proved that that was a lie that I can't find in my email. Now, she showed an email.

[00:10:51]>> I could show a bunch of emails. She's lying.

[00:10:55]>> Okay.

[00:10:57]All right. So, who is Gigi?

[00:11:00]Uh, it's uh Lor Lori Lowry. She's from Well, I don't want to dox her, but she had a channel.

[00:11:11]>> There's no doxing. Everyone has a public address. Everyone has a public phone number.

[00:11:16]>> Okay. Lori Lowry and her husband, they had two channels. Um, was it Gigi Justice for the kids and then straight out of Utah.

[00:11:29]and she said Don was an 80-year-old black bank robber from Texas and that the seventh No, not the Seventh [ __ ] but the Mormons had given him a fake identity. Um, just all kinds of crazy stuff like that.

[00:11:51]The conspiracy theories.

[00:11:55]Okay, that makes all the sense in the world. Is that the woman thought that um Dawn was her bishop?

[00:12:04]>> I don't remember. She claimed she had a video of Rose and Candace and Don at at Waco at a party. I think it was before Rose was born or >> Makes a lot of sense. Makes a lot of sense. Like that crazy [ __ ] Wanita.

[00:12:21]Okay, so this is what happens. Child exploitation is a crime. It really is.

[00:12:28]And when people use a child for their own gratification, there is something wrong. There is something wrong.

[00:12:42]I'm telling there is something damn wrong with you. There's something wrong.

[00:12:50]>> Yeah. The real ICU is telling the Yeah.

[00:12:52]Gigi was a trip. And when she came back, well, allegedly, this is the story I heard, she was Tina Simmerly's friend and she went to the Hemp Cafe and supposedly Tina gave her some bad drugs and GI ended up in the mental hospital for a while.

[00:13:11]>> But when she came back, guess who her mod was?

[00:13:18]You can guess.

[00:13:20]>> Who?

[00:13:21]Lips.

[00:13:23]>> Lips. Okay. Well, lips. I mean, my goodness. Okay. [laughter] Yeah. I don't want to confuse a conversation. I don't want to muddy the water. I'm more concerned about my granddaughter's picture being shared.

[00:13:36]So, let's go.

[00:13:37]>> Okay.

[00:13:38]>> Sorry, I'm being selfish today.

[00:13:40]>> No, that's okay.

[00:13:41]>> I'm not going to deny that she maybe didn't send that. I just personally don't have that and don't remember it.

[00:13:46]Mine go back to 2022. She stole an email in that same email thread from 2021.

[00:13:52]Now, I don't know how to go back and find when you first make an email. It says that you got to like have like an app or something. I don't know. Google tell me how to do it or you have to have your welcome email. I also don't have my welcome email. Therefore, I guess maybe I could have gotten messages in 2021 that maybe I deleted. But I even Lisa's not even in like a list of people that come up of people that have messaged me ever.

[00:14:21]>> And >> well, once the police get to the bottom of this and who did what, it's really not about me. It's about Camden's parents, >> right?

[00:14:33]>> Because when I sent that to them, they were pissed.

[00:14:39]>> Oh, I'm sure. And I had and that's what she doesn't understand. You see, my granddaughter is not my daughter.

[00:14:49]But when I got that information from Kim Austin and Heather Thompson, I had to send it to my son.

[00:15:03]It's his responsibility to protect his daughter. I can't do it.

[00:15:10]I'm the one that [ __ ] up. Okay. I'm the one that sent the picture out.

[00:15:16]>> Who did you send the picture to? How did she get it?

[00:15:19]>> Me. Me. She was on her way to Florida and I was bragging on my granddaughter.

[00:15:24]>> Oh my god.

[00:15:26]>> Yeah, I did.

[00:15:34]>> Yep. I I I did this.

[00:15:37]>> Okay. Do you know better now?

[00:15:41]>> Uh, you think? [laughter] >> I mean, everyone brags on a baby. Look how beautiful she is. Look at how she is. Look at her cheeks. Look at her little piggy toes. Things like that, okay? I mean, that's what happens.

[00:15:58]>> And if Lips wants to come up and explain herself, um, she honestly can.

[00:16:05]I do ask for um an apology and I do know for a fact that there are certain people that are in this network of sending pictures of children to penitentiaries and it gives money to the inmates. I know you say they just pass around their tablet or they can only have their tablet. That's not how it works at all.

[00:16:34]>> No. Yeah, it is.

[00:16:36]>> Uh, no. Have you heard about McKenzie Shriila?

[00:16:40]>> No.

[00:16:41]>> Okay.

[00:16:42]>> Oh, I've heard the name. Yeah.

[00:16:44]>> Um, she's the one that caused the crash.

[00:16:49]>> What crash? No, I guess I don't know what you're talking about. I just saw that name.

[00:16:52]>> Ohio. Okay. Um, so she sells things around any picture she gives to other inmates and she gets makeup for it.

[00:17:07]How do is she in jail or in prison?

[00:17:11]>> Oh, she's in prison and gambling with children is a different story.

[00:17:25]as opposed to permission. I just want to let everyone know if you send a picture to a prisoner, just remember they're not on death row. They might get out sometime.

[00:17:41]Okay.

[00:17:45]All right. And I'm going to kill I'm not I'm not going to kill anyone. Take that back. Take that out. Take that back.

[00:17:52]Take that out. That's just me talking.

[00:17:55]Um, so I think you were trying to be Lip's friend. Okay.

[00:18:03]>> Well, I was trying to >> Okay. And so when she said to you, "Send this to Shelby." I think you did it.

[00:18:12]Okay.

[00:18:14]>> Mhm. Well, she uh wanted to talk to him.

[00:18:20]>> So, for what?

[00:18:22]>> Well, at first she was my emergency contact in case like, you know, I died or went in the hospital or something and he wondered where I was, couldn't get a hold of me, he could call her. And so then, yeah, she's like, "Have Shelby call me." And I can't wait till he gets out. She said Ernie was going to kidnap her daughter and she needed Shelby to protect her from Ernie. I have all that.

[00:18:46]I thought I showed it. She couldn't wait till Shelby got out and had a photo shoot with her daughter and all kinds of stuff. She had her recorded uh uh a recording. I was supposed to send that to him which I didn't.

[00:19:04]>> Okay. But this is totally different. I know you have recordings with her daughter. I don't want to use her name.

[00:19:13]And I don't know who Grier is. And I don't know why Lips is not grabbing the link. Probably cuz she was I don't know. I sent one picture. What's of a fully clothed child? because I thought she was so cute. She's I thought she is cute.

[00:19:40]>> Okay, Griker is rapper. Yeah, we don't send cute pictures of children to a penitentiary with a bunch of men. Okay, >> it's not like it's not like what you think. He looked at it and yeah, it was cute. And I don't know if he talked about it to lips, but he deleted it then.

[00:20:02]>> Sure he did. And I'm sure everyone was there to see it.

[00:20:06]>> Oh, no, they weren't. You're trying to make it into some it's not.

[00:20:12]>> Okay. Um, so what do you think he did with the picture? You think you can trust criminals?

[00:20:19]>> Yeah, he's not a pedophile or a sex offender or anything. He doesn't have any history of that. And there's you can't say that that they had pedophiles and then say that he's sharing this picture.

[00:20:33]>> I'm not saying he is, but it's commissary in the jail.

[00:20:40]>> He is.

[00:20:40]>> How do you know that?

[00:20:43]>> Oh my god. Have you ever watched that show on A&E called 60 days in >> and will get um pictures of a niece, a nephew or whatever and they'll say, "There you go." And they trade and they don't care what they jerk off to.

[00:21:00]>> They send other inmates.

[00:21:02]>> Wait, >> go down. I was saying I was the child's godmother. That's got to be lips.

[00:21:10]>> I can't scroll up because I can't see it.

[00:21:12]>> Yeah, we're not worried about >> I never said any I never said any of that. Don't believe anything she says because she's >> get back to it. My granddaughter's involved now. Yeah, I thought you were gonna play that phone.

[00:21:27]>> And um they're not happy at all.

[00:21:31]>> And you [ __ ] agree.

[00:21:33]>> I know it is.

[00:21:35]>> I mean, Camden is a little baby girl.

[00:21:39]Okay.

[00:21:41]>> I have a little girl. I know. I know.

[00:21:44]>> I mean, she she's obsessed with her fingers, her toes. Um she loves her baths. I mean, she likes to sleep. She likes to eat. She likes pears.

[00:21:56]>> So, I don't know why anyone is picking on her and doing those things, >> but they shouldn't be and I didn't I want to go back and make sure because I always question everything.

[00:22:11]>> Well, I mean, you know, if you did it, it's really okay.

[00:22:14]>> Well, that's why I'm saying I didn't I shared her pictures yet.

[00:22:22]She's the cutest baby in the world.

[00:22:23]>> I trust it completely with my life. I trusted that [ __ ] with my wife.

[00:22:29]>> Okay. And she's a genius, too. And why her pictures are going around with these nasty messages? I don't like >> Why when she you threatened to put children's pictures on the dark web would you send her that picture?

[00:22:50]We'll we'll talk about that later. Let's get to it.

[00:22:53]>> I was making plans. No, >> I've heard it on Andrew's channel. I've heard it in certain different areas where certain people are concerned. And my granddaughter will not be part of it.

[00:23:14]Okay. It's a picture of a little baby girl.

[00:23:23]I mean, you want to sell pictures to the jail and Lisa, let's get it straight.

[00:23:28]You're dumb as [ __ ] about this stuff.

[00:23:30]Okay, you are.

[00:23:32]>> Nobody sold any pictures.

[00:23:34]>> You don't know. You think the prisoners are going to call you and say, "Hey, I sold a picture."

[00:23:43]You think anyone's going to tell you that?

[00:23:46]>> Where did she get $400? She's lying.

[00:23:49]Nobody's sold any [ __ ] >> How do you know? You're not in jail.

[00:23:54]>> No, but I know him.

[00:23:56]>> You know Shelby?

[00:23:58]>> Yeah.

[00:24:05]>> Is that why you called me up here? I thought we were going to talk about lips, but >> Yeah, we're going to do that. Let's get to the bottom of it. Okay.

[00:24:12]>> I've told her everything about me, my kids. She's met my kids like on on camera. Whatever.

[00:24:19]>> Lisa Lisa K. Ruit met your kids.

[00:24:22]>> Uhuh.

[00:24:23]>> Kim.

[00:24:24]>> Who?

[00:24:26]>> Kim.

[00:24:27]>> Oh, Kim. Okay. Well, fine. Okay. Yeah. I mean, that's >> I'm just let you know that I personally trusted her and that's why I had her listening in on every phone call I ever had. No worries. Everybody else's. She was just always in the background. I could never really get her off the phone. So I'd be like, "Oh, so and so's call. Hold on. I'll answer it on my phone, you know, whatever." And she'd just sit in the background and listen.

[00:24:50]Well, that day that you had called, she was part of our conversation. So that was me just [ __ ] trusting her, thinking, you know, you're part of the conversation. We're talking, you know, we're talking about her or whatever. I was like, "See, this is what, you know, she's not." I shouldn't have done Sorry, I'm done.

[00:25:09]Um especially I should have probably erased them right away. Especially when you said, you know, Liz, don't share that right after that.

[00:25:17]>> I didn't. And that's my fault.

[00:25:21]More my fault than it is yours.

[00:25:24]>> You said don't share it and she shared it.

[00:25:26]>> Yeah. Okay. So, this is my granddaughter months ago. Um, that's her first bath, which was a crazy story. It took a long time to get her in the bath and out.

[00:25:40]Okay. And that's her one month picture.

[00:25:44]I did share those pictures with Casey. I did.

[00:25:50]>> Is that her saying if Brooks don't stop, she's going to be hurting, too?

[00:25:54]>> Yep. And that's the reason there's a police report.

[00:26:00]>> What the hell is she going to do to you?

[00:26:01]Oh my god.

[00:26:04][clears throat] Um, she's the cutest baby in the world. Um, whatever rapper is doing, just get rid of him. He's a [ __ ] schizophrenic that doesn't need to be around here.

[00:26:17]Just get him out of here. He can go hang out somewhere else.

[00:26:25]Uh, Tina said she's going about the bushes. Um, listen. Um, you'll catch up soon.

[00:26:33]This is the most beautiful baby in the world. Okay. Get Skitzo out of here. All right.

[00:26:41]What? What? Did she want you to stop or she was going to hurt you?

[00:26:49]>> Um, just I have no idea. I mean, she won't come up and talk.

[00:26:56]>> Well, I mean, anyway, I mean, we have a totally different Department of Homeland Security officer right now that's really tracking these things down. Um, there is nothing wrong with someone sharing a picture. None at all.

[00:27:13]>> It's what it's what they claim was that afterwards and that's [ __ ] up.

[00:27:17]>> But um when you see someone saying if Brooks doesn't um act right or whatever and there's other people in this group chat >> um and there's pictures of my grandchild. I mean, how sick are people?

[00:27:36]>> Usually, it would be a direct threat as in Brook just said or did X, Y, and Z.

[00:27:43]>> Okay.

[00:27:45]This is about my grand >> I know I'm talking about Yeah.

[00:27:51]>> Yeah. I don't care about the adults.

[00:27:52]They I mean, everyone in the middle can take care of themselves.

[00:27:56]>> Kids, >> all it makes more sense.

[00:28:02]Wouldn't it make more sense if there was details put into that instead of it being so broad?

[00:28:08]>> What?

[00:28:10]>> Well, I would think so. And that's what the police are there for because that's the reason I hate screenshots. I hate when people try to prove their point with one snippet of a conversation and they say, "Oh, but look at this."

[00:28:24]>> And I'm like, "Are you kidding me?"

[00:28:27]>> Yep.

[00:28:29]Um, I have had so many people send me screenshots and it makes my head silly.

[00:28:38]>> You sure?

[00:28:38]>> It makes no sense to me and they try to convince me by a snippet of >> your word.

[00:28:45]>> None of their stories that they have came out with to other people have been even remotely true and they've been proven to be wrong by a lot of people.

[00:28:54]>> Wherever it came from, it whatever happens is going to happen. They'll they'll figure everything out because the whole thing is >> we just have to make sure this little baby girl is not hurt, >> right?

[00:29:08]>> Or threaten my book.

[00:29:13]>> What did she mean? You're going to be hurting too. Who else did she threaten?

[00:29:17]>> What is she talking about? She had She has no watch. I sent everything to my son who said he gave it to the Tulsa County Sheriff's Department and they said they're going to take care of it.

[00:29:31]Now, they said it's an app and they already figured that one out, but they're going to figure out what's going on.

[00:29:39]Lips, you have the link. I don't [ __ ] around like your friends that you all go back and forth all the time. You all love to fight with each other. You love to point out who has a warrant. You love to point out who had a balance check.

[00:29:58]You love to point out who doesn't have a place to stay. You love to point out who's homeless.

[00:30:05]>> Oh, and show people's trailers and make fun of them.

[00:30:13]>> And show people's kids. She sent me pictures of people's kids, other people's kids that she was in chat with.

[00:30:20]>> You tell me. girls.

[00:30:22]>> Mean girls, kids, >> they do research all the time looking up what Janette's doing. Um, I mean all these people are doing when my granddaughter has been used in a conversation, you're [ __ ] because she is the most important thing in the world to me. My son doesn't even exist anymore.

[00:30:58]Okay.

[00:31:00]Is anyone in here a grandparent?

[00:31:07]Just asking. What did she say her point was in sharing that those pictures? She said she was told not to, but she did anyway.

[00:31:20]I have seen some people that are grandparents sit back and they they listen to people like Ro talk horribly about their their grandkids and they say nothing.

[00:31:36]This is totally different for me.

[00:31:40]Um, put a one in chat if you're a grandparent.

[00:32:00]And I know from now on not to share any pictures of my granddaughter.

[00:32:06]>> I promise you.

[00:32:09]>> I will never share.

[00:32:10]>> But I won't.

[00:32:11]>> I Oh, no. You said you. Oh, I thought you about me. I promise you I will never share some photos that you gave me, too.

[00:32:20]So, she can prove to me that every single person out here is dirty >> in more than just what you're telling me now.

[00:32:33]>> Okay. Well, let's just >> Are you [ __ ] kidding me? People send me pictures of their kids every day. All kinds of stuff. And I have no does not entice me to share them in a group chat in Discord or sell them to the penitentiary.

[00:32:57]And the only way you can sell a picture to a penitentiary is if it is the child's parent.

[00:33:06]>> I did not sell a picture to the penitenture. You >> you remember when when Lips shared that video of I think Ros's kids to Andrew when he played it on live.

[00:33:21]Is Is this all okay with everyone?

[00:33:27]Is this all okay?

[00:33:30]because it's a tablet and someone deletes it >> and and they don't hit the forward button and send it to another um another inmate.

[00:33:40]>> You can't do that. You can't forward anything.

[00:33:43]>> Oh, you haven't been in jail. Come on, get real.

[00:33:46]>> You can't forward anything on those tablets.

[00:33:49]>> Are you kidding me? Of course you can.

[00:33:52]>> No, you can't.

[00:33:54]>> No. How? You've never been in there. You don't even know what you're talking about. I'm not Have you been in jail?

[00:34:02]>> No, but I know what you can do on those tablets.

[00:34:05]>> Oh, really? I mean, do you them for the inmates? Because they share all the time. We have people in chat that have been in there that say, "Yeah, they do share pictures."

[00:34:20]>> They do share p. They've shared pictures. You can't share them on a tablet.

[00:34:27]It's not on the internet.

[00:34:29]Nana rocks. It's not on the internet.

[00:34:34]>> Okay, let's not argue with the chat. Um, I can tell you right now, um, it is limited how much you can share, but if it is a picture, you can send it like April and November said, "Yeah, you I mean there's that one dude in Ohio, actually. I'm sorry. It was um oh in Michigan that took that one tablet around and um pictures. It was one picture. Stop saying I'm sending pictures for crying out loud. They don't have smuggled phones in prison. That's a federal prison that has the phones. So there >> Okay. So, you're telling me that contraband doesn't come into jails?

[00:35:28]>> They do. Jails? Yeah, there's a lot of contraband in jails.

[00:35:35]>> Okay. Is Is there a moderator in here that understands?

[00:35:41]>> I don't uh fang girl for RF RSOs. I don't even know any RSOs. Sorry.

[00:35:47]>> Okay.

[00:35:47]>> I have no idea what you're talking about. Um, Danny Dne said, um, yes they do because there is a huge thing going on in Fort Smith, Arkansas, not to dox anyone. Everyone loves that word. And they removed a ton of tablets. Homeland Security did because all the pictures that were sent to their tablets were sent to e other prisoners.

[00:36:20]They can't.

[00:36:22]H >> How can they not? What are you talking about? They have a forward button.

[00:36:27]>> No, they don't.

[00:36:29]>> They don't.

[00:36:30]>> No, they absolutely do not. No, they can't share anything on there with anybody.

[00:36:38]>> No, it doesn't work like that.

[00:36:45]They have their own personal pin.

[00:36:49]They don't have a forward. I didn't gain anything. I thought we were going to talk about lip sending your granddaughter's picture around.

[00:36:58]>> I know, but we're having a different conversation right now. I got to get a hold of Did anyone get rid of rapper?

[00:37:04]Because I'm done with his ass. Listen, quit giving criminals so much credence.

[00:37:14]>> Disgusting.

[00:37:15]>> She wanted to out suicide of one of my babies. Well, I'm just saying now I know.

[00:37:20]>> I'll tell you what, you all just like to fight amongst each other. What I don't understand is why you use children to fight your battles.

[00:37:29]>> Okay. I can't explain that because I'm not the one doing that.

[00:37:33]>> Okay. All right.

[00:37:35]Oh, [ __ ] >> Why they would want to make that up and and and you know do whatever and try to make convince you of that without more context. Cuz if I was mad at you, trust me, I don't just send one message. I send 30 messages in a row.

[00:37:52]>> Ask anybody.

[00:37:53]>> For real. And that's the reason I hate screenshots. Taylor sent me 700 screenshots one day. Um, I was like, "You >> I ramble and go on until I'm not mad no more."

[00:38:04]>> You must be You must be kidding me. And I've never been so mad that I brought up someone's grandchild or their child. But I guess person's child >> does. Oh, [ __ ] [ __ ] She wanted to take Andrew's kids from him. I have the messages. She said she was secretly work. He was terribly abusing them. She and the mean girls were secretly trying to get CPS in there to take those kids. And I have receipts.

[00:38:36]>> Okay. Who are the mean girls?

[00:38:39]>> Oh, the Nicolina's girls when Lips was in there.

[00:38:44]>> She said the mean girls knew and Andrew was terribly abusing those kids and they had to get him out of there. It was worse than anybody knew and she was trying to get CPS in there to take them.

[00:38:59]Okay. Um, do we have any moderators in here? I mean, do we have any I mean, if not, I'll mod a few people because I mean, a rapper will keep coming back with one thing after another. Um, like our managing moderator said, tried to be nice, but nope, not today.

[00:39:24]I don't know who that it's all fun is, but what a [ __ ] >> That person's gone. Exactly.

[00:39:30]>> She keeps lying.

[00:39:32]>> Ridiculous behavior. We're having a conversation.

[00:39:43]>> No, I don't think you did abuse children. I'm just saying what she nephew or anything. I will retaliate to the um couple people that put my kids on their page. Now, do you guys always see the person doing that? No, you only see my retaliation and it kind of looks bad.

[00:40:01]I I realize that now that for now on if I do something stupid like that in retaliation, I definitely need to show why I'm doing it and been the other person doing it what are doing whatever X Y and Z. But I've learned my lesson in that department, too. Like that Rosie, I was always putting my kids everywhere, you know. And >> well, then you should report.

[00:40:24]>> Wait, Chloe Jade. I saw her in chat.

[00:40:27]>> Not on Rosie.

[00:40:29]>> I think I've got her kids, too.

[00:40:32]>> What is that?

[00:40:33]>> I saw Chloe Jade in chat. I think I have her kids pictures, too.

[00:40:39]>> No, she has one. She has one daughter.

[00:40:42]>> Okay.

[00:40:45]All right. So, um I need some moderators in here getting rid of rapper. Okay.

[00:40:50]Just please. I don't want to hear this anymore.

[00:40:54]If not, I will have to sign other um >> you said she doesn't have kids. There's something about she talked about you about something.

[00:41:03]>> I have three children and one granddaughter. Goodness.

[00:41:09]And I mean, I know who's doing this.

[00:41:19]Okay.

[00:41:22]Okay. Ann said we have multiple times.

[00:41:24]He has many many He loves to troll. He loves to troll. Loves to troll.

[00:41:32]All right. So, let's get back to it because I'm very upset about this.

[00:41:35]>> Oh, Anna cuz Lip sent them to me.

[00:41:39]She sent me all kinds of dip pics, too, which the mean girl said she did in their chat.

[00:41:46]>> Dick pics of who?

[00:41:50]>> Um, Ernie, Doug, um, just different YouTubers.

[00:41:59]The >> mean girl said, "Anytime a new person joins that chat, lips bomb the chat with all YouTubers dickpicks.

[00:42:11]Who knows how she got him.

[00:42:12]>> That would scare the hell out of me if I had a bunch of pictures of kids. Oh my god.

[00:42:25]>> Is Raven Paige is that Ro?

[00:42:29]>> Ernie, how are you doing since you just got out of jail?

[00:42:33]>> I'm doing great. I'm doing great.

[00:42:36]Okay.

[00:42:37]>> How are you?

[00:42:38]>> How are you feeling? That's all I'm asking. How are you feeling?

[00:42:42]>> Oh, I'm doing good. I'm great. I feel great.

[00:42:45]>> Okay. But I mean, how was your time in jail?

[00:42:49]>> Well, I mean, it was it was a rough time. I mean, especially Bridgewater.

[00:42:52]Bridgewwater is one of the craziest places and oh my god, it was deadly. But the but the rest of it, I mean, it was jail. You got to do what you got to do.

[00:43:02]>> Okay. So, what is jail like?

[00:43:06]Well, I mean, it just depends. Jail's what you make it. Jail's more of a mental kind of um a psychological kind of thing. It just depends on what who you run with, if you run with anybody, who you align yourself with.

[00:43:22]>> Um is there I mean, I'm going to ask you something and don't tell me about your personal relationships.

[00:43:28]Um do people actually have sex in jail?

[00:43:32]>> No.

[00:43:33]>> Okay. there. It's not allowed, right?

[00:43:35]Because I watch >> No, I mean it would be really it' be really I mean I've heard of instances it happening but now like in 2026 and the way things are going with the Pria and and all that. No, that would be very very hard now. But I've heard of it happening maybe in prisons that are opened up but jail is too small. Uh most places in jail, you're in a 20 by 20 sale with about 15 or 16 men, maybe 20 men sometimes, and it's there's no room to I mean, yeah, that don't happen.

[00:44:08]>> Happen a lot.

[00:44:13]>> Okay. And so we're talking about um your brother Shelby that has a tablet that um showed pictures of another person's child around other inmates and got commissary money for it. Is that true or not?

[00:44:35]>> I mean I've heard that Lisa K send him pictures. I don't know exactly what they were of. I mean I've you can speculate what it is. I mean, I've heard what lip said they were >> truth.

[00:44:47]I already heard from lips, I already heard that the pictures were sold.

[00:44:52]>> Well, yeah. I mean, most time when photos come in. Now, if they how did they come in? Was they mailed in? Was it actually physical photos? Was it something on a tablet? I mean, >> you know, >> tablet.

[00:45:07]Well, other people when they get photos on tablets, we had tablets. You can log in. All you got to do is put your ID in and your information and um you have like a jacket number. You put that in your tablet. You could show you can show everybody else the photos. I mean, it ain't like they can, you know, if they have your jacket number, they can log in and look at them.

[00:45:28]>> Why would you share your jacket number?

[00:45:31]So, somebody would pay $400 for a picture of a girl's first day of school >> in jail in prison. You have to It depends on who's there. You have to understand sometimes when you're in prison, these people been in there for years upon years upon years. The only the only thing they have to freedom is photos that they can rely and look at and everything. Most photos when they're sent in, it goes to the bathroom and they're on the shower wall. They do know they can't print them off.

[00:46:04]>> Oh, yes they can.

[00:46:05]>> There's literally no way for them to ask. You can Yes, it is because on a tablet >> No, you cannot. No.

[00:46:12]>> On the tablet, if it's securest or if it's uh GTL, it has a way where you can print them off. You can hit >> They don't have GTL there. And they cannot print anything off.

[00:46:23]>> Do they have securest?

[00:46:24]>> Yes. And they cannot print anything off.

[00:46:26]>> You can print it off in Securus. I just said that. Thank you. No, you cannot.

[00:46:31]Okay. If he's just going to lie, I'm going to step down. You said we were going to talk about lips.

[00:46:38]>> Obviously, obviously, you're proving my point right now. You're want to run away, and I want to have a conversation about it.

[00:46:45]>> But you're lying.

[00:46:46]>> No, no, no, no.

[00:46:47]>> You said you never had a Grinder account, too, and that was a lie. Quit lying.

[00:46:51]>> Had a grinder. No, no, no, no, no, no.

[00:46:54]back when I used to bust predators.

[00:46:57]>> I have your account. Um I put my brother-in-law's picture on it and I went undercover.

[00:47:05][laughter] >> Yeah. I never knew that my brother-in-law, a fat guy with a beard, would get so many men that liked him.

[00:47:14]>> You can go Listen, here's the thing. If you're doing it for child predators and stuff, you don't even have to put a photo up. All you have to do is have an account and there'll be a ton of people hit you up on it. Just depends.

[00:47:27]>> Why would they hit you up if they're on there looking for children? That doesn't make any sense. That's an adult hookup.

[00:47:35]>> They're they're looking for anybody.

[00:47:37]Anybody Grinder is one of the biggest things. If you watch If you watch >> No, it's not. Facebook is.

[00:47:45]>> No, no, no, no, no, no. I'm talking about I'm talking about for predators being caught. All you have to do is All you have to do is watch Chris Hansen's interviews. Most of them come from Grinder. Sorry.

[00:47:58]>> No, Booer. Not where Shelby was. You can't get anything printed there.

[00:48:04]>> I know that for a fact.

[00:48:06]>> You know it for a fact.

[00:48:07]>> Anything.

[00:48:09]>> They don't have access to a printer.

[00:48:11]>> This is not rocket science. I mean, we know that people share things in the jail. Okay.

[00:48:20]He's in prison >> and >> and he doesn't share pictures. What?

[00:48:28]What is Why are you describing the very worst?

[00:48:31]>> Oh, Shel's been moved to another prison.

[00:48:33]Do you want to tell everybody why?

[00:48:36]>> I know exactly why, but I doubt you do.

[00:48:40]>> Well, I want to hear why you think it's been.

[00:48:42]>> I know exactly what it is.

[00:48:44]>> What is it?

[00:48:45]>> But I You don't know what it is. I mean, how do I know he's been moved to another prison?

[00:48:51]>> Vine Lake. And cool. Everybody knows he's been moved to another prison.

[00:48:56]>> But why is it because of a gangs want to kill him or something?

[00:49:00]>> No.

[00:49:01]>> What is it?

[00:49:04]>> I'm not going to put his >> You're not going to put what out?

[00:49:09]>> I'm not going to put his business out.

[00:49:12]>> Okay. Okay. I know why it is. I don't think you do. Okay.

[00:49:18]>> He's he's molesting other inmates.

[00:49:20]>> He is not done that >> and now they have to move him.

[00:49:26]>> That is not true. Show your proof.

[00:49:29]>> Tell me how he could go from the Lee Adjustment Center, which is a nice and easy prison, back up to another harder prison. Tell me about that. That's all [snorts] >> Well, tell me what he did. Tell me what he did. What What kind of prison is he in now?

[00:49:44]What?

[00:49:45]>> He's in a bigger, nicer prison with better food and it's a not a forprofit prison where they starve you and only feed you potatoes and beans.

[00:49:55]>> He's in a nicer place. He has to go there.

[00:49:58]>> You're saying the Lee Adjustment Center he's at, they only gave him what' you say, potatoes and beans. That's what's on the menu.

[00:50:05]>> Yeah.

[00:50:06]>> Did you know did you know that they use Kalewell? Right. That's the name of the place they use. That's their uh com That's their uh food service is through Kalewell.

[00:50:16]>> They have a commissary there. They do catering for >> No, no, no, no. I'm not talking about commissary. I'm talking about their food service. The people that cook the food for them. It's Kwell.

[00:50:23]>> Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.

[00:50:25]>> Kale Well don't have potatoes and beans on it. They most Kentucky jails or prisons have Kale Wellside the Three Forks. Three Forks is right beside of Lee Adjustment Center. Same thing. Kale Well, it's easier.

[00:50:37]>> It's not the same thing. Okay. Why is Ernie Shaw being platformed? Yeah, I don't want to be on panel with Ernie and especially because he's just lying out his ass like he always does.

[00:50:48]>> No, no one says he's lying. No one says you're lying because nobody knows Shel's life. Let's go back to the main focus.

[00:50:56]We're not going to send any more pictures to the penitentiary.

[00:51:02]Okay? I don't care what you say, Lisa. I don't care what you say, Ernie. I don't care what anyone says. It is sold for ramen noodles, beeferoni.

[00:51:17]It's It's sold for a lot of things.

[00:51:20]>> It's currency. It's currency.

[00:51:23]>> Oh, it is not. Okay, I got to go because I can't handle this.

[00:51:26]>> Lisa, I got something to do. I got something. I got something for you. O, >> just like I got something for Viper.

[00:51:34]>> Oh, I got something for you. Oh, you've always had something for me, Lisa.

[00:51:38]>> You've always had something for the Shell brothers.

[00:51:42]>> We all know.

[00:51:44][laughter] >> But I I do have something legal for you I want to give to you.

[00:51:49]>> I got something. Oh, Ernie, you don't want to [ __ ] with me.

[00:51:54]>> Ernie, huh?

[00:51:55]>> You don't want to [ __ ] with me.

[00:51:57]>> Oh, I don't Oh, you're damn right I don't want to [ __ ] with you. That is exactly right. There's no way in hell I want to do that. But anyways, Lisa, um, just like I'm going to do with Viper, I will have you in court here because Tuesday, tomorrow, and if you want to, you can ask my family because they know all about it, too, as well. You're going to be involved in it. And you're going to have to prove everything you've ever done and said, and you're going to have to prove everything you've ever said about me. And that's going to be fun, Lisa.

[00:52:26]>> Oh, I can do that. I can do that. And >> you've never proved anything. You've never proved anything. You've never proved. You've never proved anything.

[00:52:33]>> I proved everything. I showed you Shelby's records. I showed you all about what he done. The burgy, the robbery.

[00:52:40]Yes, I have.

[00:52:40]>> You lied about all that stuff. Meals on wheels. You never dropped that thing he done. You did.

[00:52:47]>> I showed every single thing. He's the one that went to jail for it. I never done nothing.

[00:52:52]>> He never He never You have to. You've been in jail sever a lot of times.

[00:52:57]>> I've not been in jail a lot of times.

[00:52:59]>> Okay.

[00:53:01]It is what it is. So, we already know Ernie's record >> and we know that you're saying, Lisa, that um pictures of young kids are not currency in the jail because Shelby told you and those are your words, not mine.

[00:53:17]>> And and the chat even say Lisa, you talk about fantasizing about the photos that the words fantasy is used in it.

[00:53:25]>> I did not. The word f is the word fantasy used in it.

[00:53:30]>> No, >> the text show that. Yes. Yes, it was.

[00:53:33]>> Well, let's go back.

[00:53:34]>> Don't >> let's go back and look. Um, let's go back and look. Now, Ernie, what happens when someone gets a picture of a child in jail and like you were describing?

[00:53:49]>> Well, it depends on what section they're in in jail. If they're in with other people, other predators or other rapists and stuff like that, it's sold for currency.

[00:53:58]>> It's currency.

[00:54:00]>> Shel's not in with pedophiles, though.

[00:54:05]>> Shelby Shelby's in with everything.

[00:54:07]Shelby is high alert.

[00:54:10]>> No, he's not. He's in the honor dorm.

[00:54:15]>> Oh my god. Okay, I'm going. I'm not rage quitting. I just don't >> I call that a rage quit. I call that a loss.

[00:54:22]>> No, no, no. You need to listen.

[00:54:25]You need to listen, Lisa. Please don't listen. Don't Please don't leave. Okay.

[00:54:32]And this is very important. Okay.

[00:54:36]>> He didn't come in until later, but >> he was on my side that whole time until later.

[00:54:41]>> Goodness. I mean I mean I mean the only >> I got multiple reps on Nicolina the couple or at least one on Lisa.

[00:54:50]>> I'm not dealing with this. I mean I I want a clean life. I want a a life where I can go outside and touch grass, drink some water, >> not have to call the police, >> get in the pool and not feel like um something's going on. But this is out of my hands.

[00:55:10]I can't call the police about my great.

[00:55:13]>> I know why you keep repeating it because you you want me to like act like I did do something. I promise you I didn't. My very next message to her was, "Oh my god, please don't share that." Because if you said, "Don't share that."

[00:55:28]>> Well, that's what Dippy said to me. She was like, "How bad would you?"

[00:55:35]She just said she shared it after you said don't share it.

[00:55:39]>> Yeah. Um let's go through all the people in chat that have pictures of my granddaughter. Okay. Um Angel P, Tina King, um Tammy, Susan, Aggie, um Mirie, and um nobody has made an issue of it.

[00:56:00]No one's even thought about it. So, what do you think's going on, Ernie, with these people? Because we know there's a jail business going on.

[00:56:11]>> Well, here's the thing.

[00:56:12]>> I can tell you right now, Lisa doesn't know. She has no idea. She's a mule.

[00:56:20]>> Well, Lisa, Lisa don't know the jail.

[00:56:23]Lisa don't know jail terminology.

[00:56:26]That's >> attorney said they watch porn 24 hours a day when he was at Three Forks.

[00:56:32]Lisa don't know jail terminology.

[00:56:34]That's a fact.

[00:56:36]>> You can say whatever you want to and if and if it suits her case, she's going to say, "Oh, yeah, yeah, it's that." If it don't and it goes against Shelby, she's automatically going to take the defensive end. The fact of the matter is people need to look at it is Shel's never going to be with Lisa. Okay, that's the thing. He uses her >> Nobody ever said he was.

[00:56:55]>> He uses her for money.

[00:56:58]>> Nobody ever said he was. Your mom uses her for he you he uses her for phone calls, stuff like that.

[00:57:04]>> Your mom sends him money for that. And he has a job, something you've never had.

[00:57:09]>> I've always had a job. But anyways, he uses it for money. He uses it for phone calls. He uses her for whatever he can.

[00:57:15]And that's just going to be it when he gets out. If you think or if if you think when he gets out he's going to run to Lisa Kay, it's it's not going to happen. He's going to >> absolutely not going to happen. Nobody ever said >> he's going to trade her in for a newer model.

[00:57:32]>> Nobody ever said he was ever going to be >> When these picture things come out, Lisa Kay was on live and she started crying and screaming.

[00:57:39]>> What?

[00:57:40]>> When when lips, this is proven fact.

[00:57:43]When when this came out and they said, "Oh, you're sending uh uh pictures to people in prison." She was like, "No, I didn't. Oh, no. It ain't like that. He ain't like" And she started crying.

[00:57:55]That's a fact.

[00:57:56]>> I never cried. That's exactly what you did.

[00:58:00]>> But anyways, let's get where the actual text messages is. That's what I want to see. Where you and Lips was talking and she said, "Did you send that?" Or or I can't really recall, but she said, "Did you send that?" And he was like, "Oh, I sent it." Or something. You was talking about going fishing or something like that. He's wanting to take her fishing.

[00:58:17]>> He sent you the phone call.

[00:58:18]>> He's got a fantasy of a fishing or something like that. I don't know what it was.

[00:58:22]>> She sent you the phone call and you didn't play it. Oh, you said there was nothing on it.

[00:58:28]>> I played it when she sent it to me.

[00:58:31]>> Whatever.

[00:58:32]>> The documentation was what was the important thing.

[00:58:35]>> I have it, too. And it was spooky. Um, where in the world is um lips right now, >> and I also want to know where that money is going for the pictures. And I'm not saying you're part of it, Lisa. I'm not saying that. But I can tell you right now, I mean, I can call the police right now. I can call um Tulsa County Sheriff's Office. They're going to say that it is currency in a jail.

[00:59:05]>> Well, go ahead and call him.

[00:59:08]Go ahead and call him.

[00:59:11]>> Yeah, there's no way. Somebody said they can use Pelpost. Yeah, but I didn't send it post. And that's a hard copy. They aren't allowed hard copies anyway. So, I mean, I said it on a table. One picture.

[00:59:24]Quit saying pictures.

[00:59:26]>> I didn't say pictures. I'm only going by what she said.

[00:59:32]>> You'd be if she was sharing these these pictures of your granddaughter to other places and >> and it was only to Kim that day. And I I I'm I'm not going to deny that. I did share it to Kim. Kim was the other person on our on our phone call on my side. So that's why because that's what we were talking about when you gave it to me immediately. I just showed Kim uh trusting her. But I should have >> Did you say she shared it in a group chat?

[01:00:03]>> And I have to try to make that up somehow. But my very next >> um no, we have a bigger problem on my hands. I really don't care about how you got manipulated into sending things to Ernie's brother.

[01:00:20]I really don't.

[01:00:22]I really don't.

[01:00:24]I have a bigger problem on my hands because I thought Casey was a nice person and I was bragging on my granddaughter. See, you got duped. All right.

[01:00:38]And now we have a bigger problem on our hands.

[01:00:44]And that's about my granddaughter.

[01:00:49]Listen. Um, if I share a picture of my granddaughter, that should just stay right there.

[01:01:00]>> So, so, so I'm I'm I'm new at this, but somebody shared your granddaughter out.

[01:01:06]>> No, you're not.

[01:01:07]>> Yeah. lips.

[01:01:09]>> Yeah, lipstick.

[01:01:09]>> That's what this whole show was about, Ernie.

[01:01:13]>> And she also got um Lisa to send pictures to pictures.

[01:01:19]>> A picture >> um to your brother in jail >> and a recording that I didn't send.

[01:01:30]>> Okay. Well, I mean, it probably didn't go through. It's hard to send something like that.

[01:01:34]>> I didn't send it.

[01:01:36]>> Okay. Well, I mean, maybe it went through, maybe it didn't. I mean, she said she asked you to, but you said it wouldn't upload, so you tried.

[01:01:44]>> No, I didn't. I didn't say it didn't upload. I never sent it.

[01:01:47]>> Okay. Well, then where is she?

[01:01:50]>> What?

[01:01:52]>> Where is Lips right now?

[01:01:54]>> I have no idea.

[01:01:56]Probably posting. Somebody said she was um rage posting.

[01:02:03]>> Okay. Oh, super duper. I mean um um just come in here and explain yourself.

[01:02:11]I we have Scorpio moon saying you see that was sent to us for that is a group just me you lying [ __ ] Casey.

[01:02:22]Um it's a totally different question right now. It's a totally different scenario since the police are involved now. What do you think's going to happen Ernie? since you seem to know a lot about law enforcement.

[01:02:38]>> Well, it here's the thing. Here's what here's what happens. Uh if you share a photo with the intentions of it going out in a bad way, no matter if the photo is something that's even if it's not even inappropriate, if it's of a child, it's still it's still considered um sharing a photo of a minor is still a sexual event. It always is, >> Steve, Sam. It is. It's It don't matter if the if the child's clothed or not, it's still it's the intentions of it.

[01:03:12]The intent. The intent is everything.

[01:03:20]Scorpio moon said, "Well, I didn't do anything wrong, but it seems to you, Brooks." No, I'm not talking about you.

[01:03:28]You didn't do anything wrong.

[01:03:30]I didn't see anything wrong. I was alerted by several people and you were the last one to tell me under those pictures are don't like please don't share those with anybody.

[01:03:51]So why we weren't fighting then? Why would I why would my very next message have been a threat?

[01:03:58]>> What would it matter? Um, >> what were we? What were we? There wasn't nothing. We didn't >> Yeah, I don't think you understand. Um, she's my granddaughter. She's not my daughter.

[01:04:08]>> I totally understand, Brooks, because my kids are out here and people are sharing them and I have no control.

[01:04:14]>> Um, there is nothing I can do about that. And I'm certainly not making threats against your children.

[01:04:22]>> Correct.

[01:04:25]and nor did I your I I don't know what I can do to try to convince you that my very next message wouldn't have been a threat. It was please don't share this to anybody because I was on the phone you know whatever I >> again why I don't like screenshots because Dippy said hey lady my friend couldn't have known how would Dippy know if it was there between me and Kim >> here she said a group chat >> therefore that should let you know right there that Kim's trying to go around share them with other people like Dippy Ro Tammy whoever cat >> which is September um trying to convince you that I'm doing something with them.

[01:05:11]>> Oh no. I mean the proofs in the pudding and the pudding is eating at the table.

[01:05:16]Okay.

[01:05:16]>> Read that. She said she shared that.

[01:05:18]>> I don't know how to repeat that more back to you than >> they're not trying to convince me of any.

[01:05:28]They're [ __ ] public now according >> Oh, September Angel wants to come on.

[01:05:33]Oh, she's got some stuff to say about lips.

[01:05:37]>> Okay. Well, I mean that's I mean so so good. I mean that's fine, but um um >> it says she shared them in a group chat in that in that message.

[01:05:48]>> Okay.

[01:05:50]Um Rian, you're right. Don't ever share pics to weirdos or internet strangers.

[01:05:57]Um, it's absolutely crazy what's going on. And I'm going to say right now, this all is my fault. And I mean every bit of it. Um, so what's going on? September angel.

[01:06:13]>> I'm going to make this very clear, and I hope Lips is listening. You put my son out on April 6th at 10:20 or 11:10 p.m.

[01:06:26]>> The next day, I went into Andrew's chat and I made up a story. And yeah, your kids' names were in it. I have not put any kids or anyone in your family out there and you're trying to make it like I did.

[01:06:49]people and then says says they went after the first.

[01:06:56]>> Okay. I think we have Okay. Who's caution?

[01:07:06]>> No, I caution his Scorpio.

[01:07:11]>> They're all static. I got timed out for trying to tell you that I was not the one that done anything wrong. And she shared that to a group chat, not just me. She's [ __ ] lying to you.

[01:07:32]I can tell you what there was a big problem going on these pictures of children >> with lips.

[01:07:43]>> Oh, okay.

[01:07:45]>> How many people were in the group chat?

[01:07:48]>> All right. I had to remove her of an echo. No one No one could hear her. And she won't even use that.

[01:07:55]And of course, I mean, Ernie makes all the sense in the world, but um that's pretty much it. I'm done with it. The feedback is too much for me. And um there were too many people.

[01:08:11]Okay. Juniper said, "If you shared a pick, then immediately said don't share." Which I never thought in modernday America you would have to say, "Don't share this." and it gets shared.

[01:08:29]>> Well, whoever that was said it was a group chat and Lip's line. I said, how many people were in the group chat? How many people got that picture?

[01:08:38]>> I mean, is it so hard to um follow directions just like, oh, this picture of my granddaughter, don't share it. I have the messages and now I'm in big trouble with my son with what's going on.

[01:08:58]>> Um hello caution.

[01:09:00]>> Sorry that's my that was my bad.

[01:09:03]>> Um there was four there's was four people in that group.

[01:09:08]>> So yes, four people seen that picture.

[01:09:12]>> What was her reason for sharing it? What did you say?

[01:09:18]Because Brooks was bragging on this baby and she wanted everybody to see this baby.

[01:09:26]>> Did she say Brook said not to share it?

[01:09:28]>> Yes, she did. I even heard Brooke say that [clears throat] >> because I was on that phone call.

[01:09:37]>> And you're still friends with her, right?

[01:09:39]>> No. Absolutely [ __ ] not.

[01:09:42]>> Okay. And now my my granddaughter's picture is being sold.

[01:09:48]>> Okay. Well, I don't know how it's being sold >> unless she sent it.

[01:09:53]>> You send something to the jail, it's being sold. Don't tell me any different.

[01:09:58]>> I didn't send it to no jail.

[01:10:00]>> I didn't say you. No one's talking to you.

[01:10:04]>> Okay. Just making sure. I thought you were saying that I sent it. I did not send it nowhere but to you.

[01:10:11]No, I sent it to lips and here we go.

[01:10:14]>> Okay.

[01:10:19]>> You come for lips and I'll contact your ex-boyfriend.

[01:10:24]>> What they said, Brooks, you come for lips and I'll contact your ex-boyfriend.

[01:10:33]>> Yeah. Two Boston moms. She's sharing photos again of uh Brook's granddaughter.

[01:10:39]I don't know how these pictures are sent to Shelby left and right and she finds one person.

[01:10:44]>> They weren't.

[01:10:46]>> Would you stop it?

[01:10:48]>> I'm not talking about you. Don't call Don't call yourself so important. You're a porn mule.

[01:10:55]Just let me tell you, anybody taking up for lips, just hope it's not your granddaughter next or daughter or niece or whoever. Just hope it's not them.

[01:11:16]And when you um Exactly. Okay.

[01:11:21]>> Oh, hey Ro. Yeah. Lips X.

[01:11:29]Yeah, I'm not bringing up Lips's ex.

[01:11:31]Okay, let's not change the subject. My goodness.

[01:11:36]Let's >> She just said that cuz they said they would contact your ex.

[01:11:40]>> My ex? Which one?

[01:11:43]>> I don't know. That's what the comment said.

[01:11:45]>> The guy that left me at the prom when I was 16.

[01:11:50]>> I don't know. I didn't write the comment. Okay. Well, I mean, um, if you want, um, I'm very transparent and it actually entertains me. Um, if you want any Facebook, >> you actually are. You are very transparent.

[01:12:07]>> Yeah. I mean, if you want any phone numbers, Facebook profiles or anything of my um, anyone that I hung out with, then I mean, back in my high school days, go ahead. Okay.

[01:12:22]I mean, >> why won't why is why won't lips come up here? Why is she posting on her page where nobody only three people see it?

[01:12:32]>> Okay. I mean, if you if you ask me for something, you're going to get it.

[01:12:39]I mean, it's the best way to do things.

[01:12:44]Um, Sud said, "Were you wearing a chassity belt?" No. My neighbor made me a satin dress and my shoes were dyed a certain way and I went to the the prom a certain way. So, I mean, talking to an ex, I mean, so be it. I mean, if you want to talk to the boy's dad, get ready cuz he will chew your [ __ ] ass. He's been contacted many times.

[01:13:16]And if you want to talk Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah.

[01:13:21]>> Oh my god.

[01:13:23]>> Oh yeah. He He's changed his email. He's changed I mean everything because he used to come into chat quite a bit. Um so yeah, he won't deal with that. Why should he? Um there's no reason to deal with this nonsense. Um if you want to talk to my husband, I mean he can show up anytime, but he won't really deal with it.

[01:13:49]But the deflection always goes away from what's wrong.

[01:13:55]So, I mean, if you want me to do a show about, you know, my past, I'll do it.

[01:14:03]I promise I'll have everybody on panel and it's going to be nothing more than a laughing fest. I take the fun out of everyone's gossiping and I shouldn't do that for you guys. I'm sorry. I don't mean you, Lisa. I mean everybody thing. And I don't trust screenshots. I mean I Let's just wait for the police to sort it out. You mean >> absolutely >> you all have >> I don't have answers. I really just don't have answers that I I just don't have things. I I can't answer questions I don't have answers to. God, I guarantee you don't. No, I guarantee you don't.

[01:14:45]>> Okay, so Dippy said, "Hey, lady, my friend Kim wants to know how mad you would be if Lips shared your granddaughter's pics cuz if she shared them in the group chat with people who you didn't know, she said she more than W."

[01:15:03]>> You gonna ask her to show you that it was shared within a group setting whatsoever.

[01:15:08]>> What's that matter? What's that matter?

[01:15:10]Um, >> well, because that verifies that she's lying to you.

[01:15:13]>> Oh, but you already said that. I mean, I told you don't share.

[01:15:17]>> I can never I stared them to Kim privately.

[01:15:20]>> Okay. Um, >> me and Kim, >> can I finish? Can I please finish this this paragraph?

[01:15:27]>> This is all my fault. Please don't blame yourself.

[01:15:31]>> No, I'm going to, bro.

[01:15:32]>> No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[01:15:34]>> I don't want to.

[01:15:35]>> It doesn't work that way cuz I'm the one I'm the one. I was the one bragging on my granddaughter. You share.

[01:15:42]>> I don't like those things out there. And if you can't prove something you didn't do, so that's what's hard. And all I know is I can I can't express to you enough about the little things that or their major things that Kim has been doing before coming to you about this that she did that weren't true.

[01:16:04]Therefore, >> okay, I need a warning right now for everyone. The >> Stop it.

[01:16:21]>> The minute she said to me, "Hey, listen.

[01:16:24]That's sexy, Lisa." The minute she said to me, "Well, I'm recording this." Fine.

[01:16:29]Good. I'm recording as well. I don't Well, hello September angel. I am getting so tired. I need to get something to eat and go to bed. So, what do you have to add to the conversation?

[01:16:47]>> Is there feedback?

[01:16:48]>> No.

[01:16:49]>> No, you're good.

[01:16:51]>> Okay. again.

[01:16:53]So on April 6th at 11:10, Lips posted on her community wall my son's full legal name.

[01:17:04]So on the 7th, I went into Andrew's chat and made up a little story and yeah, it had her kids' names in it, but not her their full legal names. Okay. So she keeps continuing to say that I put her kids out first when that's just not true. She put my son's name out first and my husband and then she said about my son, "He has beautiful long hair and he does look like your father. The only way she would know that is off of my Facebook and my father is dead."

[01:17:37]And then she wants to post about my mother and tries to tell everybody that I'm a liar. My mother's maiden name is not Reinhardt.

[01:17:51]Okay, [snorts] I guess she didn't get permission from Lips to get married, you know.

[01:17:59]Um, wants to put out um traffic violations that I supposedly had in 2003 that I didn't have.

[01:18:10]Um, she just continues to harass me and just so she can hear me, this is the last time I'm going to say it. I have called my local police. I've called Michigan police. And I've called the FBI. Keep [ __ ] around.

[01:18:24]>> Oh my god. Okay, so here's a whole thing. Um, the title of the show is not about you. If you want to do your own show, you can do your own show and we can do it about how lips have done something to you. Can we concentrate on what she the [ __ ] that she has done?

[01:18:43]Let's please. I'm talking one teaspoon of sugar at a time. Okay, please um you you put in the police reports, call them back. Okay, Lisa, she has done things to you.

[01:19:05]Um I'm the one that shared a picture with an internet weirdo. Okay.

[01:19:14]Should not have done it ever, ever, ever, ever. What I did do was like brag about my granddaughter.

[01:19:22]>> Just not that internet weirdo.

[01:19:25]>> Who?

[01:19:26]>> Lips.

[01:19:28]>> I did. I did. I was like phone and I'm like, you have to see this baby cuz she is the most amazing baby in the world.

[01:19:42]I mean, you would not believe you wouldn't believe the way that she's balancing her head and she hangs onto her little bathtub and um she kicks her feet. Who could pick on a child like that and send a picture of a child to um these crazy ass people that have been locked up for years or could be locked up for years?

[01:20:17]You think a picture of a child's going to make him happy? No. They want bee veron. They want pop. They want um um they want ice cream. They they they want things like that.

[01:20:35]Unless they're a pedto.

[01:20:38]And anyone that says, "Oh yeah, go ahead and send me that picture." Because that cost them money too out of their commissary.

[01:20:51]and they gamble with the pictures and they use their iPads or whatever and they come out and do it.

[01:21:02]>> This is their this this is their last resort coming to you with something [ __ ] crazy.

[01:21:08]>> Mhm.

[01:21:08]>> Because the finish weren't true. I >> I know you're worked up because you're scared about the police being involved and I get a >> scared I ain't scared. Okay. Never.

[01:21:20]>> Okay.

[01:21:21]No.

[01:21:22]>> Okay. All right. I mean, who knows? Um, >> hey, lady. My >> You have no proof of nothing I did.

[01:21:27]You're saying it's in a group setting and all these things that never happened. So, I have proof. How would I have proof? I'm not the police. I'm not.

[01:21:35]>> You just said you did. It happened in a group setting. You just read those things.

[01:21:38]>> I'm just reading.

[01:21:39]>> Why aren't they showing you that?

[01:21:42]>> All right. You need to be questioning the right people. The people that are coming to you.

[01:21:47]Who do you think I am? Detective um Joe Kendrick.

[01:21:51]>> It's your granddaughter. Why wouldn't you question them?

[01:21:54]>> That's the reason my um what my son Oh, good lord. You think I'm going to waste my time with scumbags?

[01:22:04]>> I mean, you're coming to me acting like I did that coming from the scumbag proven to be liars.

[01:22:10]>> Okay, hold on.

[01:22:11]>> So, you're telling me what they've been what they've been pushing about my parents is true, too? Like that's what you're that's kind of how you're acting.

[01:22:20]>> I know who my parents are. They're on my birth certificate.

[01:22:24]>> Okay. Um the conversation is not about her. I will never understand why people circle back about themselves. Did I call her about her? No.

[01:22:37]I was calling about one thing and that was my granddaughter's picture.

[01:22:44]And then we deflect, deflect, deflect, deflect, deflect. We already knew that she has um been sending pictures of her her own child to go to a a jail. Okay, we are we got it. Okay, we got that part.

[01:23:06]All right. Um wasn't your smartest decision, Lisa, but you won't be held responsible.

[01:23:14]However, with my son, because I can't do anything. I'm a grandma.

[01:23:21]It's a different story.

[01:23:28]Finish reading the text there.

[01:23:32]>> What text?

[01:23:34]>> The one that you're showing from Heather Thompson there.

[01:23:41]Uh Tina King said, "Showing my respect to you, Brooks. Thank you. You are more than welcome." So I mean basically it's whatever law enforcement can do.

[01:23:52]Um this this woman I I I mean Casey's actually a nice person. She is. But there's something behind her that makes her clock tick.

[01:24:10]the same parents that I go and visit right now today. But they're still pushing, nope, lift, you're a liar. You were raped and your parents murdered each other.

[01:24:18]>> Oh my gosh.

[01:24:19]>> So now, because that didn't work, they went to Lisa Kay and Nicolina with that because that didn't work a couple weeks ago or a week and a half ago. Now they're coming to you with that.

[01:24:29]>> Please don't be dumb.

[01:24:33]>> This is >> You want any more information on me? I will give it to the police myself.

[01:24:38]Matter of fact, what police department are you calling? I'm going to write it down right now. So, I'm going to call them myself.

[01:24:44]>> Okie do. I've only told you five times.

[01:24:47]Um, >> okay. But you didn't mean I cared at the time.

[01:24:51]>> Okay. So, Dippy said, "Hey, lady, my friend, >> I'm waiting for the police department, Brock."

[01:24:56]>> Glenpool Police Department. And I'm sure you >> Okay. My goodness. She's very slow to the punch bowl. Okay, we got that part.

[01:25:08]Okay, she's very slow to the punch bowl and everyone knows I don't [ __ ] around.

[01:25:14]Okay, so public servants, they work for us. Okay, and I respect law enforcement.

[01:25:21]And so if I say this is what happened, they already said it's an app and they're going to figure out what's going on.

[01:25:31]It is not a crime to share a picture. It is a crime what's going on with it. Are you there much?

[01:25:42]>> Yes, I am.

[01:25:44]>> Okay.

[01:25:47]>> All right. So, what are you thinking about this?

[01:25:49]>> Oh, I think there's a Oh my god.

[01:25:53]Listen, for one, I just want to set something straight. And I'm not going to sit here and say I'm not a career criminal by any means, but I've done my time in jail. That's a curious. If you pay if the the money's right and if somebody wants a picture, you're going to pay that money to get that picture. I don't care what anybody says. You can be in jail, you can be in prison, you can be in federal prison. It all comes down to whether or not you want to pay that money.

[01:26:23]No children's picture should ever be shared on YouTube, Facebook, nothing.

[01:26:29]>> No. And I made that mistake. And that's 100% my >> We had a big problem at the David El Moss. People were sending on the iPads, okay, the tablets.

[01:26:45]Um, someone sent a picture of um, someone's child and it was a little boy and um, that picture and they took all the iPads away and you know what? A bag of Cheetos.

[01:27:02]>> Wow.

[01:27:07]>> So, yeah, it's my fault. and the picture of um her daughter going around. Well, I mean, you know, I don't I mean, >> Casey, you're not blocked. Come over.

[01:27:22]>> She just >> I don't know. It's It's just you know You know, Brooks, it's it's a shame because children have to be drugged into it all the all the time. Every time you turn around, somebody's kids are being drugged into it or somebody's grandchildren are being drugged into it.

[01:27:35]You know, my thing is is my children, all my children are adults.

[01:27:40]They can handle themselves.

[01:27:43]>> They do not want to they don't want to deal with when it comes to my grandchildren now, then that's a different story. Then that's where I'm going to step in.

[01:27:52]>> And that's a reason I had to cower down and tell my son what was going on. Once I got that picture and it's it's hell on wheels now.

[01:28:04]>> Right.

[01:28:04]>> But you the one that called the police or you >> Well, how can I? She's not my daughter.

[01:28:11]>> Oh, okay. Well, but it was your picture that was shared. So, I just wonder.

[01:28:17]>> Well, that's up to them. I mean, I'm not law enforcement. I'm not the DA. I'm not anything. Okay. I'm just someone that told them I was a little bit worried.

[01:28:30]But see, why do why do people have to stoop that low to put a child's picture out there like that?

[01:28:42]That's what I don't understand >> because I think it's because she's got a deepness of her past that she doesn't want out and she's deflecting on everybody else.

[01:28:52]>> Yeah, that's not my problem right now. I just want to know why she got Lisa to send picture a picture of her daughter >> to Shelby Sh.

[01:29:07]>> So who sent a picture up Lisa?

[01:29:10]>> So who sent a picture? Who sent who a picture to send where?

[01:29:15]Lip sent Lisa a picture >> of her daughter. Of Lip's daughter.

[01:29:22]Who else is up here?

[01:29:26]>> Um, this is Rob and Tammy.

[01:29:28]>> Um, I mean, >> to be quite honest, she's in a totally different rodeo now.

[01:29:42]>> Who's in a different rodeo?

[01:29:44]>> Um, Casey. She's in a different rodeo.

[01:29:48]>> Oh, absolutely. Whatever happened in her childhood is not my problem. Has nothing to do with me.

[01:30:00]And I mean nothing.

[01:30:03]>> Nope. Same here. It doesn't have nothing to do with me. That's why that's that's that's why that's why I don't really say too much on >> get all [ __ ] psychological and say it's because this happened to this person when they were two. Not my problem.

[01:30:20]>> I can tell you something right now. I know the difference between right and wrong. Okay.

[01:30:26]>> Absolutely. Absolutely.

[01:30:28]>> My choice what she has done putting this in this group chat and I get why Lisa did it at I mean some way I can understand it. I can understand it.

[01:30:48]It makes no sense, but I wouldn't have done it. Um, Lisa, what did she say to you in your messages when she sent you the picture?

[01:30:58]>> I don't know. I'd have Didn't I put those all out?

[01:31:02]>> No, I didn't see anything. Like, you say receipts all the time.

[01:31:06]>> I think I did a live about it. She's saying you're lying and you always make everything sexual.

[01:31:13]You have a nasty way of making everything sexual. Why would you make up that I claim Lisa sold my daughter's photo? You said this publicly. No one told you that.

[01:31:23]>> Well, you know, I haven't I've never seen your daughter's photo, but I know what happens in jail and I've never been there.

[01:31:33]>> We've had people called the prison and they checked it out and nothing happened. So, >> okay, great. Well, hopefully nothing did happen. That would be great.

[01:31:45]I don't want to see your daughter's photo. I'm sure she's a beautiful girl.

[01:31:50]>> Lips.

[01:31:51]>> Hey, what does what does Munch have to say about Lips sharing your granddaughter's photo?

[01:31:58]>> I think it's I think you know what? I think that's a low blow. I don't think you should do that at all. You know, and the thing is, it's no different than Janette, also aka Mama Bear, putting out my two-year-old granddaughter photo on on YouTube >> because of Jessica Matter, which is Jessica Ghost.

[01:32:17]So, no children should be brought into it.

[01:32:20]That's my whole outlook on it all. No child under the age of 18 should ever be brought onto YouTube.

[01:32:28]But when there's certain things, when that child is old enough to go in there and explain that child's story of what happened between her and that family or her family or whatever the case may be because I'm going to go back a little bit because lips accused Andrew of doing something and I made sure that that girl, that daughter went on panel in front of her mother, father, myself, and my girlfriend Tammy sitting right at my table and she explained herself and she explained that nothing would that nothing like that ever happened.

[01:33:08]So there's a lot of people out there that falsely accuse people of doing [ __ ] Yes, I'm not going to sit here and say that I agree with everything that Andrew does on YouTube, but I'm not there to I'm I'm not his father. I'm not I'm not his keeper. I cannot tell him what to do and what not to do.

[01:33:31]But all I know is that I was sitting there with my niece because I consider that little girl my niece to sit there and explain what was going on in her life because lips falsely accused him of doing something.

[01:33:47]So no child should ever be put out there on YouTube. Not >> let alone in any kind of jail system, prison system or anything. Lisa. So, I totally disagree with that.

[01:33:59]I do not agree with any pictures being shared whatsoever.

[01:34:05]If you have a problem with somebody here on YouTube, take it do it between yourselves. Don't ever bring children into it, especially minors.

[01:34:18]>> I did. That's what I did. I thought it was private. I did because I'm very proud of my granddaughter. Brooks, you trusted her. That was a lesson I guess you had to learn.

[01:34:29]>> I guess so. My son is pissed.

[01:34:32]>> Oh, I'm sure he is. I'm sure he is.

[01:34:35]>> I don't. And And honestly, Brooks, I don't blame him.

[01:34:39]>> He's very upset about this cuz he has been telling me for a long time. Just like when I put on YouTube, I'm like, I've got Grandma Tom. He's like, don't do that again.

[01:34:50]>> Yep. You know, it's just like, you know, it's just like the comment you have up on screen right now. We all know why male prisoners want pics of young girls.

[01:34:57]We all know there's a lot of sick people. There's a lot of sick people in this world. And you don't And you want to know something? The sad thing about it is is you don't have to go to prison >> to see all that.

[01:35:13]>> That's that's how sick this world is.

[01:35:21]Um, it's been that sick for a long time and we are in the true crime community.

[01:35:27]Okay. And everyone knows better. Let's get back to what she said.

[01:35:35]>> Won't call them. Um, hey Glendale.

[01:35:40]>> Quinn, can you spell that for me, please?

[01:35:44]>> Um, Laura, leave that alone. Um, all right.

[01:35:48]>> Hey lady, my friend Kim wants to know, >> if you think that I did this, you're gonna definitely give me the police department information so I can call Brooke.

[01:35:56]>> Do you know how to do >> I want them to know who I am and my information so they can call me if they need any further information?

[01:36:03]>> I would um I would call the sheriff's department in Tulsa >> because that's where um my son turned this in cuz he wants to know. No, I'm I'm calling where you called. I don't care where your son called. Your son has nothing but what you're giving him.

[01:36:21]>> My son only has >> Listen to this idiot. Your h your son has nothing but what you're giving him.

[01:36:30]Like I can feed anyone evidence, >> right?

[01:36:34]>> That's up for the police and the DA to figure out. Okay. Goodness. like my son who has a fourmonth-old baby would actually do anything. You turn it in and you file your report. I tell you what, Lips, you've never dealt with um people that are um upper middle class.

[01:37:04]You're used to white trash that sit around and say, "I'm going to file a report. I'm going to press charges. See, there is a difference between you and me. A big difference. Huge difference.

[01:37:21]You don't understand eth grade civics.

[01:37:24]You'll never get it.

[01:37:27]And um you have no understanding how the process goes.

[01:37:35]You will never understand.

[01:37:39]So, your threat against my granddaughter, they have to investigate.

[01:37:45]You saying, "I'm feeding this stuff to my son." Um, I don't think you understand that is his daughter.

[01:38:01]It's his responsibility to protect his daughter.

[01:38:08]And that's what he's doing.

[01:38:11]Whether you're crazy, you're fibbing, or you're just being a drama queen or not.

[01:38:18]And all the above has got to be taken care of.

[01:38:26]You know, you some of these people are [ __ ] crazy messing around his jurisdiction. Do you understand that?

[01:38:34]>> Okay. But your son also only has the [ __ ] information you're feeding him.

[01:38:41]>> No evidence.

[01:38:42]>> I'm not feeding him anything. I just sent him what I have because I have a granddaughter and he turned it into the police.

[01:38:51]>> It seems like you'd want to protect her a little bit more than you are then.

[01:38:54]>> I don't want to protect anyone except for my granddaughter. Does that make sense?

[01:38:58]>> I just said that. Wow. Brooks.

[01:39:02]It's Brooks with an S.

[01:39:05]>> Yeah. Did I not just say Brooks?

[01:39:08]>> Okay. So, um, Heather Thompson said, "Hey, lady, my friend Kim wants to know."

[01:39:14]>> I don't care anymore, Brooke. You're lying. I'm not You're You're not going to send it to me. You're [ __ ] lying.

[01:39:19]I will call the Glen Pool Police Department in Oklahoma. I will give them my phone number, my name, everything. My address.

[01:39:28]They already know.

[01:39:29]>> Well, I will call myself and give that to them, too. And if they need to contact me, then they will know how to I'll give them my everything.

[01:39:36]>> Okay.

[01:39:37]>> Oh my gosh, it's such a great idea to call a crazy different place and say, "I'm going to give you my phone number if you have any questions." No one said that's the police department. What an idiot.

[01:39:54]What a [ __ ] idiot. Did anyone take eighth grade civics? Do we not understand how this process works?

[01:40:06]Because Casey Jordan obviously doesn't understand it.

[01:40:19]>> Are you there, Lisa?

[01:40:21]>> I am.

[01:40:22]>> I mean, does she not understand the process? Yes, I did tell my son about a threat against my granddaughter. He's I mean that is I mean her father. You think I can do anything?

[01:40:38]It's like act right [ __ ] is going around all the time saying she's going to do something. Well, you can't. You're the grandmother.

[01:40:51]>> I don't know. I think you could be a a witness for it.

[01:40:55]Um, well, if I'm cold, I'm cold.

[01:40:59]>> Yeah. Did you send your son screenshots or whatever of it so he could give it to the police?

[01:41:05]>> Oh, good lord. That's That's really You think I'm going to say that out loud?

[01:41:10]>> I think a lot of people have called the police on lips. Actually, I know they have.

[01:41:18]You know how many people she's called?

[01:41:20]CPS and the cops.

[01:41:23]Hey, Brook's ugly face. How are you doing? [laughter] >> I know that's rapper.

[01:41:30]>> Oh, was it? [laughter] I thought you were going to say it was lips. Oh, Snow, I have apologized. I I did a whole live about it. I admitted I was wrong. I shouldn't have done it. I have apologized more than once, but when Lips was talking about how they didn't know about it and once they found out about it, they took care of it and all that [ __ ] I just couldn't take it anymore.

[01:41:57]>> Yep. I I don't blame you. So, let's get back to it.

[01:42:01]>> We'll talk to you later. You're a [ __ ] fool. I've been recording this this whole time and thank God.

[01:42:08]>> Super duper. So, it says, "Hey lady, my friend Kim wants to know how mad you would be if Lips shared your granddaughter's pics because if she shared them in a group chat with people who didn't know you," she said more than positive, they were shared to others and sold. All of this has been sent.

[01:42:33]And to be honest, we know Lips and how much of an [ __ ] she is. So, please be careful if you don't want the world to know. Don't give her anything of importance out of the streets. Um, DNT, which means don't give or tell lips abt, which means about it because it will be blasted everywhere. She is very conniving and manipulative. We're talking about t a tiny little baby.

[01:43:08]And so if anyone thinks that my son isn't going to take this personally, you're crazy.

[01:43:21]>> Yeah, Anna, you're hilarious.

[01:43:23]>> And that's a fair question. I mean, I wouldn't um ask Lisa how much money she made from from the pictures. I would ask Shelby how much he made commissary.

[01:43:39]>> I already told you the prison checked it out because people called and it was cleared. Nothing happened. There was nothing wrong done. Trust me, they checked it out.

[01:43:51]>> Mhm.

[01:43:52]>> They see everything. They literally check every email that goes through.

[01:43:58]Nothing goes through on weekends because they're not working.

[01:44:00]>> My goodness.

[01:44:01]>> They check literally every email.

[01:44:04]>> They're doing a great job over there.

[01:44:07]>> Let me listen in on the phone call cuz one time I was telling him about that.

[01:44:11]There was that CO in the UK that made the porno tape with the prisoner and his cellmate recorded it. Remember that? She went to prison. But I went to tell him about that. Click. The phone went dead.

[01:44:24]Guess they didn't want me talking about a co.

[01:44:28]>> Well, um I don't believe for a minute the department of corrections is doing what they're supposed to do. These people don't do what they're supposed to do.

[01:44:39]They are the lowest hanging fruit in the law enforcement realm.

[01:44:48]Lisa paid for a private group and shared it with a lot of >> what? Booer wears mods.

[01:44:57]>> What?

[01:44:59][laughter] >> I don't know.

[01:45:02]>> I don't know. Booer. What private group would I pay?

[01:45:06]>> The show is not about Lisa. Lisa keeps saying it's been checked out. Lisa wouldn't know. Um.

[01:45:13]Oh my god. Okay, that's enough.

[01:45:18]>> [laughter] >> Lisa wouldn't know. I mean, I'm telling you, she wouldn't know.

[01:45:25]If she was reaffirmed by someone, then so be it.

[01:45:30]>> Wow.

[01:45:31]>> I mean, you're crazy.

[01:45:34]>> I'm not crazy.

[01:45:35]>> No, I don't mean you, Aggie.

[01:45:37]>> Oh, okay.

[01:45:40]Like I didn't do I didn't share no pictures.

[01:45:46]>> And sad fact of the matter is I I do share pictures of my granddaughter. I did not realize that the same person that was friends with Lisa K. Ruitz would share how to pronounce and put crazy things up >> in her.

[01:46:07]LR is your name. Um, CRS are usually in on the [ __ ] The [ __ ] >> No, they're not. They'd love to bust a prisoner. Trust me, I a lot of stuff gets rejected um because they just for the most ridiculous reasons, they send it back.

[01:46:30]So, >> well, I mean, seems like you all got it worked out.

[01:46:35]>> Ben looked into Anna. I don't know who you are, but holy crap.

[01:46:43]>> Well, I mean, it's fine. Um, everything's going to be fine. Group chat and use my granddaughter as leverage.

[01:46:54]>> Okay.

[01:46:57]>> And trust me, Lips is not going to call anyone.

[01:47:16]Are we still listening to the phone call?

[01:47:18]>> Yeah.

[01:47:19]>> This is smart. [clears throat] >> Yeah. Very important. Very important.

[01:47:24]Very important. Um these are grooming tactics. Um they're predator tactics.

[01:47:30]saying if you have a picture of a child and you get out and you share it with a predator, when they get out, they will I'm not saying that child um they will find a child that looks like them.

[01:47:53]And so, um Lips knows she's in deep [ __ ] right now with me.

[01:47:59]I mean, she knows it.

[01:48:02]And I hear one more thing.

[01:48:07]Um, hello. Um, who is this rapper?

[01:48:14]>> Yeah, it's rapper. Um, so just get him out of here. He just needs to go somewhere. He can just go hang out with [laughter] >> I mean, I do adore the dude, but he has nothing good to say. I mean, he really wants I we had a birthday party for him and everything. He doesn't appreciate anything he has.

[01:48:38]>> Rapper.

[01:48:40]Oh, well, have him on >> go live right now and have him on there.

[01:48:46]>> He used to hang out at at uh Brad Enlows. I know. One night he was really depressed and I talked to him and tried to help him and and then Yeah.

[01:48:57]Then he went over in uh Ernie's and called me some name. And I'm like, I was the only one that was nice to you and tried to cheer you up when you were going through a hard time with your grandma.

[01:49:09]>> I know. And his mom and his grandma and his great aunt and his uncle. Um you know, he was calling people horrible names in the Discord. I mean, if he wants to come up and talk, um he has no time here. But we've been live for two hours and I have zero spit left in my tongue. Okay? I've been talking for too long and I've kept you up for a long time and I need to eat and go to bed. So remember, I'm the one that said, and this is a public announcement, I'm the one that sent the pictures of my grandbaby to Casey.

[01:49:54]Right.

[01:49:55]>> Yeah.

[01:49:57]>> Um I know that and I know this for a fact that when you send things to a senateary use it for commissary whether you knew it or not. Lisa, I know you say you don't.

[01:50:20]I said the prison looked into it. Two people called.

[01:50:24]>> Oh, I'm sure they did. I mean, two people calling the jail is going to work wonders. And I I'm really appreciate you did that. You might >> thought it was okay or they wouldn't let it go through.

[01:50:35]>> Oh, sure. They don't really don't pay that much attention. You understand?

[01:50:40]>> Oh, yes, they do.

[01:50:42]>> Oh my gosh.

[01:50:45]Brooks's picture was not shared in prison.

[01:50:49]Oh my goodness.

[01:50:57]Well, I can tell you right now, um, if you want to share my picture in prison, go ahead. Y'all beat off to it. Um, you go ahead and do your circle jerk and get your little slip sliver of soap and get together in the shower and look at me.

[01:51:17]That would be fine.

[01:51:21]But what you have done is opened up a whole new can of worms with what has happened.

[01:51:33]Leave the children alone.

[01:51:37]Okay.

[01:51:39]Um, I will send picture of me showering with my lofah and I will send it to Shelby Shell and he can send it around.

[01:51:53][laughter] Okay. I mean, you're gonna see stretch marks. You're gonna see um a scar.

[01:52:00]You're gonna see all kinds of stuff >> that would never get through, >> but kids do, right?

[01:52:08]>> Cuz there wasn't anything salacious about it.

[01:52:12]>> You think they don't see kids? Oh my god.

[01:52:15]>> Okay, so they let kids through and not Okay. I mean, I get what you're I mean, I get it. I mean, I think it's absolutely ridiculous behavior. Um That's crazy. I mean, if you want to send a picture to an inmate and that is said inmate's child, it should be a printed out picture.

[01:52:37]>> They don't get any printed out pictures.

[01:52:41]>> Oh, so really it's impossible.

[01:52:45]>> Um, I think if you send them an actual letter with a picture, but they they don't get anything that's sent. they copy it off and give it to them, but I've never written [clears throat] Shelby a letter or done a video call or anything.

[01:53:00]>> Okay. Um, I wouldn't do that either. Um, I certainly wouldn't do anything over the internet. So, I mean, if let's say Shelby had a wife and they have a child at home and they're printing out pictures and they have like a thing on the back from Walgreens, things printed out and he can put it around in his cell. That's not what's going on here.

[01:53:27]things are going through his iPad.

[01:53:34]And yes, Richard Gloss just got out of jail and he came out with like 2800 printed photos.

[01:53:51]>> Well, how did he print them? They don't have a >> Yeah. Send them in the mail.

[01:53:57]>> Oh, okay.

[01:53:58]>> My ex-husband, his brother, not his brother, his cousin was in jail, and we would send a Christmas card every year.

[01:54:09]>> Yeah, but they they definitely open all the mail and copy it. So, why would the guards copy? But it's not it's not uh it's not a currency. It's easier take things that um >> Who said I was keeping pictures to share?

[01:54:32]Oh my god.

[01:54:34]Okay, we're done, right?

[01:54:41]>> Um no, no, we're not. Not even close.

[01:54:44]Okay, so >> I thought you said we were done. You had to get some meat.

[01:54:49]>> I do. Um, two Boston moms. I'm doing what's called intermittent fasting. Um, two Boston moms said, "Brooks, did you get another cat? I'm hearing cats." No, [clears throat] it's it's OJ being an [ __ ] So, where is OJ? I don't know what he's doing.

[01:55:12]>> We're talking about lips.

[01:55:15]>> So, let's get back to lips. How did she convince you to send that to Shelby and how much did it cost?

[01:55:24]>> It didn't cost anything. [clears throat] >> So, you can send you can send children's pictures to the jail for free.

[01:55:37]>> Um, I think it takes two stamps for a picture, but I don't know how the how much the stamps are.

[01:55:46]>> Okay.

[01:55:47]Yeah, but obviously someone did it.

[01:55:53]>> Lisa's wanted Anna. What the hell is Anna's problem? Who is that really?

[01:55:59][snorts] I don't know. We're not concerned about that. OJ, quit your [ __ ] Um, but now that my granddaughter is into whatever is going on, I I will not deal with this and I will take care of this myself.

[01:56:20]Okay.

[01:56:21]>> Your son, your son will, right?

[01:56:24]>> Well, he will. And that's the problem because my problem is my son is a beast, okay?

[01:56:36]And he will be furious.

[01:56:40]And he already is furious about what's going on. Okay?

[01:56:46]Did the police think they could do anything about it since you shared it?

[01:56:50]>> Oh my goodness. Do you think they're going to tell me anything? Like you call the FBI all the time. Do they tell you what they're going to do?

[01:56:58]We're talking about children. We're talking about a four-month old baby. Do you think they're going to tell me or my >> or his tell PG if she call? [laughter] >> Sure they will. Sure they will. I think all of you I think a lot of you and I don't mean you Lisa are full of [ __ ] You share all these pictures of kids.

[01:57:19]They go to jails. They go to penitentiaries.

[01:57:23]You got looped into this and just you go go for it all the time.

[01:57:37]I don't know, but I'm done with lipsy blocked her a long time ago, in spite of the fact that people keep saying we're still friends. Um, no.

[01:57:45]>> Well, I mean, adults aren't the problem.

[01:57:47]Adults, adults protect children, and it seems like we have a group of women around us like Pam Tate, um, uh, Lisa Jay, um, Janette, and a few other people. I mean, possibly you that share a picture to a penitentiary that are protecting kids.

[01:58:29]And now that we know, I mean, like I mean, Ernie talks to his brother, too.

[01:58:34]And Ernie, >> no, he doesn't.

[01:58:38]>> He doesn't talk to Shelby. So, tell me.

[01:58:40]>> Hell no.

[01:58:46]>> Why would Shelby want to talk to Ernie?

[01:58:52]There's only one person two that in Ernie's family that talked to him.

[01:59:01]>> Okay. I mean, I don't know.

[01:59:04]>> And one's not Shelby. I can't even mention Ernie's name.

[01:59:13]Is Anna lips? Oh, it might be.

[01:59:17]>> No, that's Anna is not lips. Oh, listen. This was not here to attack you by any means.

[01:59:30]Never, ever, ever send a picture to the jail.

[01:59:42]I don't care if lips told you to or not.

[01:59:45]Don't do >> um we've talked about this ad nauseium.

[01:59:52]>> What did you say?

[01:59:54]>> I said we've talked about it ad nauseium now.

[01:59:58]>> Yeah, that's fine. And she won't explain and it's her child.

[02:00:04]>> Well, you she's not going to tell the truth about anything anyway. She just said you lied. She says everybody lies.

[02:00:10]She said I only go after people when they go after me first. That's a bunch of [ __ ] She goes after people first to try to stir up [ __ ] always.

[02:00:22]>> She calls people and gets and tries to be friendly and gets information from them and then uses it against them.

[02:00:31]>> That's good. That that's on them.

[02:00:36]>> Lisa has sent multiple children's photos. Never. Sorry. That's a lie.

[02:00:43]Everything you've been saying, Anna, is untrue. So, just drop it.

[02:00:50]>> All right. Well, been a threat.

[02:00:56]>> What would it matter? Um, >> what were we? What were we? There wasn't nothing. We didn't >> Yeah, I don't think you understand. Um, she's my granddaughter. She's not my daughter. I totally understand, Brooks, because my kids are out here if people are sharing them and I have no control.

[02:01:13]>> Um, there is nothing I can do about that and I'm certainly not making threats against them.

[02:01:21]>> Correct.

[02:01:24]>> And nor did I I don't know what I can do to try to convince you that my very next message wouldn't have been a threat. It was please don't share this to anybody because I was on the phone you know whatever >> again why I don't like screenshots because Dippy said hey lady my friend >> shouldn't have known how would know if it was there between me and Kim >> thought it was a group chat right there that Kim's trying to go around stare them with other people like Disney Ro, Tammy, Munch.

[02:02:05]>> Okay, so now she's blaming Ro, Tammy, and Munch. I sent her the picture of my granddaughter.

[02:02:16]That's it. So, raise your hand if you would ever send a picture to the jail of another person's child.

[02:02:27]Come on, everyone. Please put a one in chat if you would ever do it.

[02:02:39]I'm about to throw up with all the things.

[02:02:43]These are these are children.

[02:02:52]Oh my god.

[02:02:57]What do you mean? Oh my god.

[02:03:00]>> Well, I'm looking through Pacy's messages and she said it was PG that pulled up with a white van. She did zig.

[02:03:12]>> Oh my gosh. I know. So, we're getting really deep and I've been doing a lot of stuff on this.

[02:03:23]Okay. Snow said, "Broos, I'm sorry you're going through this. It's sickening." It is because I had a very simple channel. Had a very simple channel with simple things just to go through a few facts and talk to friends.

[02:03:40]And now that we're on to things, um there is a web, a big web of people and people that have been used They're all part of it.

[02:03:58]Uh, two Boston moms who's been mowing all day. She's a big mower. Did I tell you about that, Lisa?

[02:04:04]>> No.

[02:04:05]>> Yeah. Today when she came into the show, she said, "I'm um good mowing." And I said, "She's mowing. I mean, she's mowing." Um, she's beautiful saltwater pool. She's invited me over.

[02:04:21]Leave the kids alone.

[02:04:26]You know, you folks, whoever you are, and I'm not talking about you, Lisa. Not talking about anyone. Leave the kids alone. Just leave alone.

[02:04:40]>> Why do you think Brooke her lips won't come up?

[02:04:44]>> Oh, I mean, why? How would I know? I'm not in her head. How would I know what she thinks?

[02:04:56]>> Well, she's saying you're protecting Pam Tate.

[02:05:04]>> She's not in here. Pam Tate's not in here. Lips is not in here. So, what are you talking about? You're You're causing drama. So, I mean, Lips can come in here and she can say what she wants, but I'm done with this conversation.

[02:05:18]She has done this.

[02:05:24]>> She has done this.

[02:05:26]>> She's not Yeah, she's not trying to justify it on her page. She's just accusing you of other stuff.

[02:05:34]>> What? What?

[02:05:37]I would love to know. Are [clears throat] are we going back to my bad eyebrows and my mug shot? No, she's saying that you're a liar, that you're protecting Pam Tate. What she says is facts. You can't discredit her. You're lying.

[02:05:56]>> Oh, she's got a million She's got a million screenshots. She I mean, I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

[02:06:02]>> She does. And I think she records everybody cuz Mark sent her some hard drive, right? Because she ran out of room or something.

[02:06:16]Oh, she showed D. Okay, I'm looking right now. Hang on. Let's look at this.

[02:06:25]All right.

[02:06:29]How sad.

[02:06:31]How sad. You know, we're here about the kids. Okay.

[02:06:34]>> Did you ever have lips on your panel?

[02:06:37]>> Oh, many times.

[02:06:38]>> Oh, yeah.

[02:06:41]Uh, and you um let's see. Um, let's see. Um, what does she say right now? What a weirdo. Um, she tagged Susan.

[02:06:56]Come see me, old lady. Don't hide where you know I'm blocked. Brooks protecting Pam Tate. I'm sorry, but what I showed today is facts. She showed nothing. You can try to discredit me all you want, but facts are facts. See, this is the craziness I don't like. We're talking about children.

[02:07:20]And listen, if Susan's a [ __ ] Susan's a [ __ ] Okay, can we all give everyone Susan a round of applause for being a total [ __ ] Okay, >> we're not even talking about PM tape.

[02:07:40]No, I can't see when people can say on subject. Um, exactly.

[02:07:50]Um, Boston said, "Ever since you tried to help Taylor, all the weirdos came out. A lot of drama since then. Just facts. Yeah. We'll never try to help again.

[02:08:04]>> Well, that was Lips. That was brought to you by Lips, right?

[02:08:08]>> Um, no. I I was the one trying to help her. And you put the wrong law firm up and I was getting phone calls left and right.

[02:08:17]>> Well, I didn't I just put up public information. I didn't interpret it.

[02:08:22]>> No. No. Um, no. you your research was wrong. And I made sure everybody's money was returned. Um, Taylor and Lips decided because Jessica Ghost and Taylor want to take care of the money to find their own lawyer to help her.

[02:08:42]>> I don't know. I don't know Jessica or Taylor.

[02:08:47]Uh, Taylor is the woman that said she was um abused by Ma Bear's um boyfriend.

[02:09:02]And I I did a show one day um picking a little bit at Andrew and um a lot of people came in. Um, Ro, I mean, a lot of people saying, "Why are you talking about Andrew? You should be talking about Taylor and Mama Bear." And I'm like, "No idea. No idea. No idea."

[02:09:28]So, a week later, Taylor came on against my better judgment. And well, you know, I mean, it went downhill from there. Um, I got her an attorney.

[02:09:41]I'm the one that asked for the cash app to donate.

[02:09:50]Jessica is Ghost is Lip's new bestie. I have heard of Ghost. Oh, >> it's okay. That's fine. That's fine.

[02:09:59]That's fine. That's fine. Listen, we've done a lot of great things around this channel and we're just not going to deal with these scumbags anymore. Okay? We're not dealing with them. All right? So, let's get back to basics.

[02:10:14]Is the phone call done?

[02:10:17]>> Huh?

[02:10:19]>> Is the phone call done?

[02:10:21]>> Yeah. I'm not playing the rest of it.

[02:10:24]>> Okay.

[02:10:28]>> All right. I'm going to go. I got a Chick-fil-A sitting here.

[02:10:38]>> Chick-fil-A. My gosh.

[02:10:40]>> What?

[02:10:42]>> Chick-fil-A. Yum. Yum, yum, yum, yum, yum.

[02:10:45]>> I love >> I do too. Mhm. So, let's call it a night. All right. Love you guys. You are the best. Thank you for being here.

[02:10:57]>> All right. Thank you for having me.

[02:11:01]>> Um, Jean said, "Broos, you're very talented at hosting, but you have some dead weight dragging you. Cure up, buttercup. Fix your crown. I better do it real quick. That's the truth. All right, you guys have a great rest of your evening. And I'm telling you, this will all come back around. I'm telling you, it will. And we will get to the bottom of it. I expect everyone to care about this crazy stuff that we've been drugged into. I will say the crazy stuff is my fault and so let's go forward.

[02:11:55][music] Heat. Heat. N.

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