Michael Saylor: Bitcoin Just Entered A Phase Most Investors Will Only Understand When It Is Too Late

[00:00:00]Everyone thinks the biggest Bitcoin bet is buying Bitcoin. Michael Saylor thinks that's already yesterday's trade. While investors focus on Bitcoin's next price target, a new financial architecture may be emerging around Bitcoin itself. One that could reshape how Wall Street values capital, credit, and even public companies. And if that's true, most investors aren't just underestimating Bitcoin. They may be analyzing it with the wrong framework entirely.

[00:00:29]>> If you think that Bitcoin is going to appreciate more than 8 and 1/2% a year, then all of our Bitcoin gains are net income.

[00:00:36]If you don't think Bitcoin's going to appreciate if you if you think it's going to appreciate 0% a year, we have like 30 35 years before we run out of money.

[00:00:46]But but and our assumption is if you think the Bitcoin's going to appreciate 3.2% a year, we pay the dividends forever without selling a share of stock.

[00:00:58]Okay? And and how long do we have for Bitcoin to trade 3%? What's the duration? 30 years.

[00:01:04]So over 30 years, the bet that the the equity bet and the credit bets are this. The credit bet is over 30 years Bitcoin will um appreciate 3% or more and if it doesn't, the credit quality deteriorates.

[00:01:22]That's the credit bet.

[00:01:24]And you know, the company can pay the dividends literally forever at 3%.

[00:01:31]Uh the equity bet is that Bitcoin's going to outperform the cost of capital of the company, which again, most people can't calculate it.

[00:01:39]They don't really understand it, but probably it's like 8 or 9%, but let's just make it easy, 10%. If Bitcoin performs if it appreciates 10% a year, then the equity outperforms Bitcoin because the leverage is all accretive.

[00:01:54]>> For years, critics have argued that Bitcoin treasury companies are fragile.

[00:01:59]The narrative sounds familiar. Too much leverage, too much risk, too much dependence on Bitcoin's price. And if Bitcoin crashes, the entire structure collapses. It's a powerful argument, but there's one problem. That argument assumes Bitcoin treasury companies operate like traditional businesses.

[00:02:21]Saylor believes they don't.

[00:02:23]The market keeps analyzing these companies through an industrial age framework, while they may actually represent an entirely new financial category.

[00:02:33]And that's where the misunderstanding begins.

[00:02:36]>> If if Bitcoin, you know, falls 10% a year, then the credit will become distressed debt. So, if you're a credit investor, don't buy the credit if you think Bitcoin's falling 10%. That's obvious. If you're an equity investor, don't buy the equity if you don't think Bitcoin's going to go up more than 10%.

[00:02:53]And everything in the middle is just managed by the company. But I think um I I think a lot of times people that they'll do things like like they'll say, "Well, you have to sell at this price to get a positive yield." Well, a positive Bitcoin yield, but you know, the truth is the hurdle rate for accretion on a US dollar basis is lower.

[00:03:17]And so, you have that the challenge with Bitcoin treasury companies is you have to be simultaneously calculating on a US dollar standard and a BTC standard at all times.

[00:03:29]And you have to also evaluate liabilities and assets and like like uh a lot of times people think preferred equity's a liability. It's only a liability in liquidation.

[00:03:42]It's impossible to ever get to liquidation.

[00:03:45]>> This debate arrives at a fascinating moment in Bitcoin's evolution.

[00:03:50]Institutional adoption is accelerating.

[00:03:54]Spot Bitcoin ETFs have fundamentally changed access.

[00:03:58]Corporate treasury adoption continues expanding.

[00:04:02]Nation states are quietly evaluating Bitcoin's strategic role.

[00:04:07]>> [music] >> Meanwhile, Bitcoin supply remains fixed and every cycle more coins migrate into stronger hands.

[00:04:16]The old Bitcoin narrative was simple.

[00:04:19]Buy Bitcoin, wait, hope. But the emerging narrative is far more complex.

[00:04:26]How do you build an entire financial system around Bitcoin? How do you create digital credit? Digital preferred shares, Bitcoin backed income products, Bitcoin backed capital markets. Because if Bitcoin becomes global digital capital, those markets become enormous.

[00:04:44]>> If I have de minimus debt, you're never in a liquidation, but since you're never in a liquidation, the preferred equity isn't a liability, it's an asset and it's and it's equity. So, the thing that breaks people's brains is if you assume that you're in a liquidation, then you can think that digital credit is a liability and then you can be all gloom and doom. But since it's it's it's impossible to get to a liquidation based on purely digital credit, the only way to liquidate to get in a liquidation of any issue you have to have debt that comes due. So, so it turns out when you're running one of these companies, you have massive optionality and you have uh you have control over when you finance things.

[00:05:33]So, most of these narratives, they start with well, let's assume that Bitcoin falls 80% and never recovers and then you're in liquidation, then you've got a problem. And the truth is with every single business on Earth, if you start with a let's assume that all of your assets deteriorate 80% and you're in liquidation and they never recover, there is no business on Earth that doesn't look dour if you just make that assumption.

[00:06:02]But if you start to think a bit more a a a little bit more uh thoughtfully about it, you realize, well, how do I actually ever get to that point and what does the world look like?

[00:06:13]And uh the truth is the businesses are pretty anti-fragile and >> [music] >> where and as the equities fall, the amplification increases is you know, and they just get more compelling. So, so just like digital credit tends to be self-healing and snaps back to par, if Bitcoin crashes, the demand for digital credit falls, which means the creditworthiness and the the forward look look the credit profile looks better in the in the future.

[00:06:44]And the same is true with the equity.

[00:06:45]So, we're attracting demand for the credit and demand for the equity as as the assets trade down and that's what creates the stability for them to trade back up again.

[00:06:55]>> If Saylor is wrong, the risks are obvious. Bitcoin underperforms. Capital dries up. The treasury model weakens.

[00:07:04]The market eventually rejects the structure.

[00:07:07]But what if he's right? The implications become enormous.

[00:07:11]Because suddenly, Bitcoin isn't competing against gold or stocks or real estate. It's becoming collateral. And historically, collateral markets are vastly larger than asset markets. This is where many investors miss the significance of Bitcoin treasury companies.

[00:07:30]They're not merely accumulating Bitcoin.

[00:07:32]They're experimenting with an entirely new capital formation model. One that traditional finance may eventually replicate. And if Wall Street adopts it, the demand shock could extend far beyond ETF inflows.

[00:07:46]>> If you think Bitcoin is going to appreciate at about 10% or about our cost of capital, then we when we report a Bitcoin gain, that is comparable to net income. When we have a we have a $5 billion Bitcoin gain this year so far, we're on track to maybe get to 10, but we had like just slightly south of 10 last year, but but if we report a $5 billion gain for you to believe that that is valuable, you have to assume Bitcoin is not falling to zero tomorrow, right?

[00:08:17]There's If you think that Bitcoin is falling 10% a year, then Bitcoin gain isn't that interesting cuz you're discounting at 10%. But if you think And if you think that Bitcoin's going up 0% a year, then we might have incurred a liability. We sold stretch to buy the Bitcoin.

[00:08:33]I get it.

[00:08:34]If you think that Bitcoin's going up 10% a year, I sold a billion dollars of stretch to buy a billion dollars of Bitcoin. I'm never paying the money back.

[00:08:42]The the Bitcoin I bought with it is paying the dividend cost cuz it's going up 10% a year and it's compounding. So, the truth is if Bitcoin could probably go up like 8% a year and we could probably have a cost of capital of 10%.

[00:08:56]All of the gain is net income. If you think Bitcoin's going up 30% a year, when we report a $5 billion Bitcoin gain, that's like 15 bill It's 5 billion up front and it's probably another 10 billion on the back end. So, the business has obscene profitability, but the but the reason it's so controversial is your view of the equity is going to have to be uh >> [clears throat] >> it's going to have to be um modulated through your view of the forward Bitcoin price.

[00:09:26]Just like your view of the credit has to be modulated through your view of the forward Bitcoin performance and the Bitcoin wall.

[00:09:34]And you can come to an opinion that the credit is distressed and the equity is awful if you have a negative Bitcoin position or opinion and you can come to an opinion that we're going to dramatically outperform Bitcoin and generate 50% a year, which is like sort of what we've done for the past 5 years.

[00:09:52]>> Here's the part almost nobody is discussing. Saylor isn't simply defending strategy. He's proposing a new framework for valuing companies.

[00:10:02]In the traditional world, capital is deployed into assets that decay.

[00:10:07]Factories age, hardware depreciates, equipment becomes obsolete, but Bitcoin doesn't operate that way. Bitcoin doesn't require maintenance. It doesn't become technologically outdated every few years. It doesn't suffer from the same economic entropy as industrial assets, which means a company built around Bitcoin may behave differently from nearly every public company investors have studied before.

[00:10:35]>> That's a dilutive equity transaction, but it but but the definition of whether it's accretive or dilutive comes down to the use of proceeds.

[00:10:45]For example, if I'm buying Bitcoin by swapping stock, if I'm doing it above the net asset value, it's always going to be accretive, right?

[00:10:55]If I'm buying cash that underperforms Bitcoin instead of buying Bitcoin, then the question is why did I do it? Well, if I did it to make the credit more credit worthy and sell 20 billion worth of STRC next year, that you know, you're you're saying I'm actually investing in the credit business by buying the cash.

[00:11:13]That's what makes that accretive.

[00:11:15]And I'm not saying you can't do a dilutive capital raise. You can. I'm just saying you have to consider the use of proceeds. And most bit like let's take Oracle. Oracle did a hundred acquisitions. Were they accretive or dilutive? On every acquisition, they're buying another software company and their CFO creates a 10-year cash flow model and they go to the investors and say, "We think this is accretive because we're going to take all these costs out, the revenue will be this, and the our business has got a 40% operating margin and we traded at at a price to revenue of eight. We bought this business at a price to revenue of two and it's got a 20% margin, we're getting it to 40% and so the investors look at that and say, "Yeah, those are all accretive transactions, but you have to justify each one of them."

[00:12:06]And what I would say is the successful companies are doing accretive transactions.

[00:12:12]Wall Street's littered with a history of companies that failed that did dilutive transactions.

[00:12:19]If you buy a bunch of hardware that depreciates in four years and the bottom falls out of the business and you trade and you trade it equity in a good business that was a monopoly growing, that'll be dilutive.

[00:12:30]And if on the other hand you buy a monopoly which is growing at the same rate or it's better than your existing business with the equity, it'll be accretive.

[00:12:38]>> Maybe Michael Saylor is wrong. Maybe Bitcoin treasury companies become a footnote in financial history. Maybe Wall Street never fully embraces Bitcoin backed capital structures. Maybe the critics are right.

[00:12:52]But what if they're not?

[00:12:54]What if investors are still arguing about whether Bitcoin is a good asset while a new financial system is quietly being built around it? Because if Bitcoin becomes the foundation of digital capital markets, then the biggest shift won't be Bitcoin's price.

[00:13:12]It will be the realization that Bitcoin changed the rules of capital itself. And by the time most investors understand that distinction, the opportunity may no longer be in seeing the future. It may be in realizing the future arrived years earlier than anyone expected. If you made it this far, I want to hear your view.

[00:13:32]Are Bitcoin treasury companies simply leveraged Bitcoin bets?

[00:13:38]Or are they the first building blocks of an entirely new financial system?

[00:13:43]Drop your answer in the comments below.

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