THE CHRISTIAN GOD DOESN'T EXIST @kylodebates VS MATTHEW ‪- FIGHT NIGHT FRIDAYS

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[00:00:00][music] [music] [music] Okay. So, given that um so the Christian God does not exist. Okay. Matthew, you're the affirmative. So, you're going to get 3 minutes on the clock to do your opening statement. It starts and say your first word.

[00:00:33]>> First word. So this is going to be a bit off the dome on some of this, but we'll see how this works. So given the the position of the the Catholic god specifically is the one we're discussing here. One of the requirements for that god is going to be that it has its creation with a position of free will.

[00:00:47]This is going to be necessary for many of the beliefs that are held within Catholicism. So uh P1, uh libertarian free will is a requirement for the Catholic position. P2 libertarian free will does not exist. Conclusion, the Catholic position does not exist in the way that it's described. Uh supporting evidence for this position would be basic definitions of libertarian free will being the ability or the the agent being the ultimate originator for choice that is not fully determinant or reducible down to randomness or probability. Uh in the case that uh a we're stuck with a position of ontologies that leaves us with a position of either determinant or indeterminant or determined or not determinant based on the law of excluded middle. Any determinant position of choice making would be fully determinant. Therefore not the agents u authorship on the choice or you're left in an indeterminate position where choice becomes reducably the probability or randomness. Therefore, libertarian free will does not exist and the Catholic position [clears throat] is falsified.

[00:01:55]>> Okay. Are you concluding your closing your opening statement there?

[00:01:59]>> Yeah, I'll conclude it there.

[00:02:01]>> Okay. With that, that's going to end your countdown and then Kylo uh you got three minutes to do your opening.

[00:02:08][sighs] >> All right, man. So, I mean, first of all, as we all heard, this [ __ ] just gave an invalid argument, but I'll press that in the second. Nevertheless, like just to give my own opening, the opening will be cook and concise and it goes as such. Today's debates, Matthew have to show that it is a case. Catholicism is false by any means such as sound arguments, probabilistic case or something I'm unaware of that suffices the burden. All I have to do is critique the argument in such a manner which renders the conclusion one faulty. Um, and I'm just expecting this guy to get blown the f out, but nevertheless, let's get right into it.

[00:02:50]>> Okay, that's going to conclude Kylo's opening statement. And so now it's going to be an 8minute open discussion. Both of you have to establish your positions or uh destroy the opponent's position.

[00:03:01]And so your eight minutes will start now.

[00:03:07]>> Okay. What was the inference rule?

[00:03:11]modus ponent will work.

[00:03:13]>> Okay. Wait, what do you a modus ponent is?

[00:03:16]>> It's an if then statement.

[00:03:18]>> WAIT. OH, [screaming] YOU THINK that's conditional?

[00:03:22]>> OH MY GOD. MATTHEW, MATTHEW, MATTHEW, MATTHEW, MATTHEW, you have to remember.

[00:03:28]>> Wait, hold on. It's a one v one. But Matthew, bro, this is being rhetoric here. This is being recorded.

[00:03:33]>> Where is the embarrassing fallacy?

[00:03:38]Wait, is that question aerotically valid?

[00:03:41]>> My argumentation if you argue is that question aerotically valid >> that question is not aotically valid asking you a question.

[00:03:49]>> Let me apply my critique. So I don't know why should I accept that question because that clarity question presupposes internal semantics. Right.

[00:03:57]But I don't accept that. Right. I don't accept that distinction right between blas blas. Nevertheless, let's get into the objection. Your mic's cutting out.

[00:04:05]I'm sorry. your Boost Mobile. Your your Verizon's cutting out. I can't hear you with that [ __ ] Barack Obama flip phone you got. But maybe you need to get turn some like connection. Buy some hotspot.

[00:04:26]>> Wait. Um [laughter] guys, guys, wait.

[00:04:29]This guy turned to the Robo Man.

[00:04:31]>> Guys, wait. Hold on. Pause the timer.

[00:04:32]>> Can you get back to the substance, please?

[00:04:35]Um, Matthew, uh, is your connection good? We have to check real quick and then we can get back to it.

[00:04:42]>> No way he blundered like that, Kyle.

[00:04:44]That was funny.

[00:04:44]>> Oh, no. [laughter] >> Hold on. Hold on, guys. We have to check the connection and then we can get back to it. Otherwise, it won't Okay, it's spotty, but we'll be fine. Okay, I'm going to reset the timer at 7 minutes.

[00:04:57]Um, and then you guys can go back at it.

[00:04:59]So, let me get that timer.

[00:05:01]>> Okay, I need to finish my critique boss.

[00:05:04]So this is this is really simple. You're not rhetoric. Uh in your opener >> that my argument was not valid. What about my argument was invalid?

[00:05:16]>> Okay. So stop. Right. When I say the argument is invalid, that's just me licensed to say that in virtue some nosium inference. Right. Nevertheless, right? When I ask you and don't over talk me, I can feel you getting ready to speak. When I ask you what's the inference rule, you said modus ponus.

[00:05:32]I asking you what's a motive. [laughter] >> I said what's a mot you gave me a conditional motives ponent. Let's go ahead and embarrassment.

[00:05:42]>> I don't know what motus ponent is. What is invalid about my argumentation?

[00:05:45]>> I've already told you I don't primma is just going to be >> I'm in the middle of a response. Why is your sentence interrupting the sentence?

[00:05:55]Why is the beginning your sentence?

[00:05:58]Wait, I was not even talking about this before you interrupted my argument. So, you said, "What about my arguments in here?"

[00:06:05]>> Stop just filibuster.

[00:06:07]>> I'm in the middle of a sentence, though.

[00:06:09]>> You haven't answered my question. I asked you.

[00:06:12]>> That question is not >> You ignored my question, ran away, and tried to talk about something that has nothing to do with the argument. So, again, you said my argument's invalid.

[00:06:21]Where is it invalid?

[00:06:23]>> Okay, now Kylo answer.

[00:06:24]>> Thank you. So, for one, the question is aerotically unound. For two, I've already explicated how I'm licensed to say it's invalid given the CMS. Wait, please stop. Stop. You're lying to run outside yourself.

[00:06:39]Matthew, have some decor. You're a girl, man.

[00:06:42]>> I'm just going to time here. This is stupid, dude.

[00:06:46]>> I would have been addressing the arguments.

[00:06:48]>> Conduct himself, guys.

[00:06:50]>> Address the arguments, Kylo. I do have to mute both parties, but um uh it's both of your time. So, it's both you guys have an equal uh right to this time. So, >> exactly. So, stop telling people to shut up.

[00:07:02]>> It won't be productive if you're over talking. But let's let's make some production if you make some time and don't address the argument.

[00:07:10]>> Let's make some progress in the uh in the argument. So, for the sake of charity, we know you can't make it valid, but let's say it is. Okay? Let's say the argument is valid. Right? Now what would be please please we're just we're granting it's valid for the sake of productivity hold on your boost mobile's cutting back out just >> okay so here's my problem I don't accept premise one do you have a justification >> oh my god like >> dude don't [ __ ] play >> like dude you're on cricket wireless trying to go back >> premise one what's the reason to believe premise one yeah you said that Catholicism it's I'm about to recapitulate if you stop yelling like an angry kid. So, premise one states and I quote, "Catholicism entails or Catholicism requires or Catholicism is one which necessitates free will." Right? Now, I don't think that's a blunder.

[00:08:03]>> Are you stupid? When I say and I quote, that's not to say you're capitulating it directly, but that's just to say you're giving a summary of what you inherited.

[00:08:10]>> And I quote is saying you're going to repeat verbat.

[00:08:13]>> No, you'reating. That's not how I take and I quote to be. So, we just have a different meaning of the term.

[00:08:18]You're a clown. You're getting optically beat up right now.

[00:08:21]>> You don't know what a quote is. Funny.

[00:08:22]Okay. No, you're justating Catholicism not require a burden some form of libertarian free will.

[00:08:29]>> You made the claim that it does. So that's the justification required on you. You have the burden of proof. Go ahead.

[00:08:34]>> Yes. It's required for a position of sin. It's required.

[00:08:38]That's begging the question. I'm not begging a question. I am giving I'm giving positions.

[00:08:43]>> Holy stutter. Are you >> interrupting me is not begging the question. So again, this is going to be required to be able to choose to sin.

[00:08:52]This is going to be required to be able to choose to believe. This is going to be required to be able to choose to follow.

[00:08:59]>> Now, who's the person that's any of these things happen?

[00:09:02]>> Now, who's doing a lot of talking now?

[00:09:03]>> Any of these?

[00:09:05]>> Uhoh.

[00:09:10]>> Holy [ __ ] Guy came in for hospital, but he's trying to debate the big bro Kylo.

[00:09:15]Nevertheless, like that's his burden, right? He has the burden to show that Catholicism requires um free will.

[00:09:21]>> Kylo, let's wait till he gets his internet connection back to be fair.

[00:09:26]>> Chill, dude.

[00:09:26]>> Can we give this guy a Galaxy so we can buy >> your rhetoric maxing doesn't do [ __ ] >> No, it makes you look optically worse.

[00:09:34]>> Okay, you good to go, Matthew?

[00:09:37]>> Matthew, fix your line of reason. If anything needs to be fixed, Oh my god. Coco, as I already stated, there's going to be a requirement for the agent to be the ultimate originator of choice. [laughter] >> ACCOUNTABLE.

[00:09:57]>> WHAT WAS THAT WORD?

[00:09:59]>> The agent to be the ultimate originator.

[00:10:02]>> There you go.

[00:10:03]>> Take your time. You're trying to talk so fast that you're bling and not understand basic English.

[00:10:08]>> It's not the case that you annunciated your words properly, you clown.

[00:10:13]All right. So, do you have any substantive actual >> disc?

[00:10:17]Yeah. So, no. To get to the substance here, it is the notice how you've been gapping the whole time. What's the justification? How do you make claims?

[00:10:25]>> Catholicism requires libertarian free will. That's a claim.

[00:10:29]>> Libertarian free will does not exist.

[00:10:31]>> Therefore, Catholicism is falsified.

[00:10:33]Give me a supplementary argument for premise without the ability to choose.

[00:10:39]>> Am I going to be able to respond to choose to follow?

[00:10:41]>> Why is this [ __ ] yapping >> before you need it?

[00:10:45]>> Can I respond?

[00:10:46]>> Now get some substance.

[00:10:47]>> Okay, zip it. Okay. What's going to be the supplementary argument for premise one? So, what's going to be premise one of premise one?

[00:10:58]I already told you you're going to require libertarian free will for concept.

[00:11:04]>> You're not annunciating your goofy.

[00:11:07]>> Could you shut the [ __ ] up?

[00:11:09]>> Yeah, I could.

[00:11:10]>> You're going to require free [laughter] will in order to have the ability to choose your actions in a way that moral system. I am right now doing that. You [ __ ] making the claim again.

[00:11:26]Oh my [ __ ] god, dude.

[00:11:28]>> Listen, listen, >> listen. Use your ears.

[00:11:34]>> All right. You require libertarian free will for the positions of being able to choose in a moral system because without the ability to choose in a moral system, you are not the one that is ultimately responsible for those actions. without being the ultimate originator of the choice being made.

[00:11:56]Morality would make you the person who is the one who is required to make these decisions. Otherwise, it's not a moral system. It's a causal system. And thus, the moral system fails.

[00:12:08]>> You're done.

[00:12:09]>> You need to have done.

[00:12:11]>> You're repeating yourself. You're repeating yourself. Let me respond now.

[00:12:14]Hold on. Hold on. Big Joe. Uh, actually are you okay if I give him like a minute?

[00:12:22]>> I don't need it. I don't need it. All he did was [ __ ] >> All he did was try to use at arms and insults.

[00:12:29]>> Give her closing. Give her closing.

[00:12:32]>> Ever touching. Ever touching.

[00:12:34]>> Wait, why is he still talking? What is this? The time's over.

[00:12:37]>> All right, guys. Yeah. So, we're >> He asked me a question. So, I answered his question.

[00:12:40]>> Yeah, I did ask a question, but like Okay, now we're moving on to closing.

[00:12:43]You got you got a problem with the question being answered? Seems strange.

[00:12:47]>> I know you don't like answering questions, but that's fine.

[00:12:50]>> But anyway, Matthew, you're going to get 3 minutes to do your closing statement.

[00:12:54]It starts when you say your first word.

[00:13:01]>> Okay, first word. So argument rendered was with libertarian and free will being required for the the Catholic position that allows for any of the positions such as worship, belief, following, morality or anything else. Even the concept of sin requires these choices being subject to the the agent being the ultimate originator of that choice. We would see that this is going to be a requirement. Therefore, when libertarian free will is falsified, so is the Catholic position. Libertarian free will was falsified. Therefore, the Catholic position is falsified and the Catholic God cannot exist as described.

[00:13:33]Simple as that.

[00:13:35]>> Oh, are you concluding your closing statement there?

[00:13:39]>> Yep.

[00:13:40]>> Okay. And with that, that's going to conclude your closing statement. Kylo, you're going to get three minutes on the clock. It starts your first word.

[00:13:48]>> Okay. Um, so let's just all ask ourselves when this guy Matthew levied the argument, did he give a valid argument? Everyone in the audience, imagine the answers in your head. Yes or no? We all will say no. He gave an invalid argument. This [ __ ] told me a modus ponent is if if P then Q. Okay, so already the argument started off with invalid line of reasoning. Okay, let's flag that. Now, given I am a charitable interlocutor, I said for the sake of productivity, let's conceptualize the argument to be one which is valid. Okay, so we're moving off his first blunder. I then asked, what's going to be the supplementary argument for premise one?

[00:14:34]The response was premise one is true in virtue of me recapitulating premise one.

[00:14:40]So he literally says it is the case that the cath catholic view requires libertarian free will and it's false. I see what's the justification for that.

[00:14:51]You know that's just to say that if you're a Catholic and you don't affirm libertarian free will if you're a Catholic and you take some other notion of free will there will be a contradiction entailed because Catholicism entails libertarian free will. Wait, but what would be the contradiction? Matthew, he he never gave that to be clear and that was his burden. But we can show in the closing that Matthew is not licensed to say it's an intelment relation because you can say it's logically possible that you're a Catholic and you don't affirm um libertarian free will. He also never showed like any doctrine, any scripture, no empirical type of work regarding Catholicism to give any reasons to believe this. He merely kept making the claim. Is it analytically true that Catholicism entails libertarian free will? Is it synthetically verified?

[00:15:40]Matthew never went over any of these type of things. We all can ask ourselves, did Matthew prove that Catholicism necessarily entails libertarian free will? The answer to that question again will be no. I think in virtue of these minute facts and then me beating him up optically, beat him up substantively. Um that's going to be all evidence of me favor show that he hasn't shown Catholicism to be false and therefore I win this debate. So, that will be my closing statement.

[00:16:09]>> Okay. And with that, we're going to cut off Kylo's time. Okay. Audience, there's 53 here. Um, you guys, >> now that that's cut off, why the [ __ ] do you live? What do you finish?

[00:16:24]>> Guys, I do have to address the audience.

[00:16:25]Okay, that's going to be the conclusion.

[00:16:28]U, wait, we did make a mistake. I'm cutting Tyler's time.

[00:16:31]>> No, we can. That's over.

[00:16:33]>> Um, but uh, >> well, he concluded. It's fine. I'm just trying to ask him why he needs to lie so much to try to [ __ ] win debates. That was [ __ ] pathetic, >> bro. Let Coco finish.

[00:16:42]>> Okay, so so with that guys, um, audience members, there's 47 people in here. You get to vote. You get to decide the winner. You get to be a part of like what's happening up here. So I'm going to set a quick poll. Um, it's going to be smiley face for the atheist and crying emoji for the uh, believer. So, the poll is starting now and you get to vote. Go ahead and uh vote red for the atheist. Vote crying for the for the Christian or the theist.

[00:17:12]That's how it's always going to be. It's always going to be smiley for the atheist and crying for the Christian. Um and yeah, um you guys get to decide who the winner is.

[00:17:23]Um Matthew's going to be the atheist, so he's going to be the red, he's going to be the smiley that you're voting for.

[00:17:28]Kylo is going to be the crying emoji.

[00:17:31]That's going to be the Christian that you're voting for. Um, Kylo was arguing for the Catholic position.

[00:17:37]But, yep, yep, yep. And with that, >> except he never actually like argued for the Catholic position. He just lied through his team.

[00:17:43]>> You lost the debate, bro. It's okay.

[00:17:45]>> Oh, yeah. I don't care about that. That doesn't bother me. What I'm saying though is why would you lie in order to try to get a W?

[00:17:51]>> The audience my argument wasn't valid.

[00:17:55]When you said my argument wasn't valid, that was a lie, right?

[00:17:58]>> It It wasn't valid, [clears throat] boss. We all heard it.

[00:18:00]>> My argument was perfectly valid. It just wasn't formal.

[00:18:03]>> You just lost on the pose, TOO.

[00:18:06][laughter] >> Kylo did.

[00:18:08]>> Are you [ __ ] STUPID, KYLO?

[00:18:10][screaming] >> WHAT WAS INVALID ABOUT MY ARGUMENT?

[00:18:14]>> WHAT WAS invalid about my argument?

[00:18:17]>> Oh, I'm never taking you serious again.

[00:18:20]>> Yeah, I don't take you seriously either cuz you're incapable of doing anything but possible. We're done talking here.

[00:18:25]>> I know you're done talking cuz you know you're an idiot.

[00:18:27]>> Crazy, >> right? So, let me ask you, what was invalid about my actual argument?

[00:18:35]>> It's safe to say >> I know you you can't you can't say what was invalid about the actual argument, can you?

[00:18:45]And when you said I did when you said I didn't support the position, >> you interrupting me in the middle of me like supporting the position and then pretending like I didn't >> is just another crazy >> when I said this is my proposition and it's valid because but you you don't listen to the because >> hey everybody drop Coco a follow man. He make it man we making history today.

[00:19:08]>> You going to just ignore it?

[00:19:09]>> Oh my god. But also, >> you're just going to ignore every question I'm asking you, Kylo.

[00:19:14]>> But really quick, >> the debate's over, man. You don't have to keep lying in order to try to win.

[00:19:19]>> I'm sorry, Coco. Speak to me, boys. Just have some decorum.

[00:19:22]>> I don't care. I've been talking to you the whole [ __ ] time, too.

[00:19:24]>> Cortisol is spiking. Chill. Take a chill pill.

[00:19:27]>> Yeah, you're spiked at the very first premise of my argument. That's why you had to start off.

[00:19:31]>> The debate's over. Hold on. The debate's over. Let's move on. You lost. It's okay.

[00:19:35]>> No, I'm criticizing you right now. I'm not debating you right now. I'm criticizing you. take criticism from somebody like you, buddy.

[00:19:42]>> You got to be on my list. You got >> you understand that you had to lie in order to trust. What were you saying?

[00:19:48]>> Like fake your way, guys. We do need to >> We don't We don't because you don't have another person waiting >> anyway.

[00:19:57]So, are you are you going to keep lying?

[00:19:59]>> Okay, guys. I am >> Coco, bro. I want to know why he's lying, right? Why people just let him [ __ ] lie and let him get away with it.

[00:20:06]>> Hold on. Hold on, Matthew.

[00:20:07]>> Coco traffic.

[00:20:08]>> Hold on. Hold on. Chief, I need to um address the situation. We're either going to continue like doing this like shouting mash or like fighting each other or we do have to like move on.

[00:20:17]>> No, I want you to ask him. Ask him what was invalid about my argument.

[00:20:20]>> Okay, OG, >> he won't answer me.

[00:20:23]>> OG color, do you want to do you want to answer that?

[00:20:25]>> I'd rather not engage with this maniac cuz he's mad right now. And >> because you don't have anything about argument, he won't let you speak, Coco.

[00:20:33]That's what I'm saying. He will not let you speak. I'm trying to respond.

[00:20:36]>> All right, guys. Or are you just going to let him get away with it?

[00:20:39]>> Matthew, you do have to let him answer me in full.

[00:20:41]>> Thank you, Matthew. And move on.

[00:20:43]>> He wasn't answering. He was running away.

[00:20:45]>> Sir, sir, conduct yourself. So now invalid about the argument, please.

[00:20:49]>> Kylo, what you got to tell me?

[00:20:50]>> Yeah. So given his behavior, I'm no long after I've just won. I'm no longer looking to engage with this guy cuz he's unproductive.

[00:20:58]>> Because you're almost invalid about Sir, you have to you have to conduct yourself. I I did set the boundary. I want to listen to everything you come to say.

[00:21:10]>> I appreciate that moderation, boss.

[00:21:13]>> Sir, sir, >> I I want to hear all of it. I want to hear all of it. Sorry.

[00:21:19]>> Matthew, keep it in order.

[00:21:21]>> Actually, okay, Coco. I'm just Yeah, [laughter] >> I'm good, bro.

[00:21:26]>> I feel threatened. I feel you might have this doesn't feel like it will be >> get it out. But um >> Okay.

[00:21:32]>> Don't don't insult the other party preferably while you're getting out your answer.

[00:21:36]>> I got you. I'm not trying to rage bait.

[00:21:38]I'm just expressing the reasons I don't want to discuss with this guy just given the way he's been acting is not fruitful. Right. I like to talk with people that are good sports and accept their losses. But other than that, I'm no longer looking to talk to this guy.

[00:21:50]>> Okay. With that, we are going to move on.

[00:21:52]>> That doesn't answer the question. Coco, you just let him [ __ ] run away from it.

[00:21:56]>> Okay. Okay. Well, >> you just let him ignore it. He just [ __ ] ran away from it again. You're going to let him sit here and lie.

[00:22:02]>> I know he's choosing.

[00:22:03]>> You're not going to hold him accountable at all for what he did.

[00:22:07]>> You're not going to do anything about it at all. I'm not asking him to engage with me. I'm asking him to engage with you.

[00:22:12]>> Look, look, it seems to be the case that he doesn't want to answer.

[00:22:16]>> What was invalid about my argument? Cuz that was his entire thing. He just said my argument was invalid.

[00:22:22]>> What was invalid about my argument?

[00:22:24]>> Matthew, he doesn't consent to the question. Yeah, >> why is he [ __ ] here?

[00:22:29]>> Okay, so to clarify, I'm just going to drop everybody from the panel because um I've been plenty patient and I'm just getting talked over and that's kind of [ __ ] But um OG Kell is choosing not to engage with the question and I understand that can be frustrating, Matthew, but like what can I do? I'm not going to I'm not like you want me to go over to his house and put a a gun to his head? Um he's he's not engaging with the question. And that might be cowardly, that might not be cowardly. It depends on whose perspective in this life we're asking. Um, but I'm going to stay Switzerland on this one. So, we do have to move on with the show. Um, is there any like atheists or Christians who want to come up and do a quick debate? I do have a couple of topics I have already set up. I have the Christian God exists.

[00:23:10]The Christian God does not exist. The biblical gospels are not historically reliable. Um, the Christian God does not interact with his creation. And I'm setting up some other backgrounds and topics that people would like to debate.

[00:23:23]Um, right now you can debate literally anything. Just tell me and I will make the background and put it up for you.

[00:23:32]So, any atheist, any Christian request and we can get the debate started. It's just going to be short debates. Um, but yeah, like the beef between Matthew and OG Kylo, that's between you two. Kylo, you didn't answer his question to be honest. Um, and he doesn't want to. And Matthew, I know you can be frustrated about that. I get I get frustrated about people not answering my questions, but that's between you two. I don't have any beefs with any of you guys. Um, I don't really know what side to take here. Um, but Kylo, preferably you should probably answer people's questions when they're asking you what's invalid about their argument. I don't think it's really fair to win the debate and like I don't think it's good faith to not answer his question, but that's just me.

[00:24:18]But, um, yeah, I'll bring everybody back up. No, bring everybody back up.

[00:24:23]>> No, man. I'm just gonna say this to you real quick. Don't respect you at all for the [ __ ] you've been doing recently.

[00:24:30]>> I'm just >> You haven't No, no. I'm just going to speak. If you want to kick me, that's fine. But I don't respect the [ __ ] you've been doing recently. You You claim to be Switzerland. It's not Switzerland. You're not being You're not being neutral. You are quite literally just allowing people to [ __ ] walk all over whoever. And when they're called out on it, all they got to do is say, "Nope, I don't want to answer." And you're fine cuz you don't want to you don't want to push anybody. You don't want to hold anybody accountable for the [ __ ] you do, right?

[00:24:56]>> Do you want me to do you want to put a gun to his head? Is that what you want me to do?

[00:24:59]>> No, I want you to hold him accountable for the [ __ ] he did cuz you saw it. You watched it happen. You see it happening.

[00:25:04]Call him for it. Kick him out. Do whatever you kick me out, too. I don't give you shits, right?

[00:25:08]>> I mean, >> but don't sit here and say you're being neutral when you're not.

[00:25:12]>> I'm going to >> Right. Don't Don't lie to people. I don't want him to lie to people. I'm calling >> Yeah. You say you're neutral when you're not neutral.

[00:25:19]>> What are you talking about? No, you are taking his side.

[00:25:21]>> I'm not taking his side.

[00:25:22]>> You literally are taking his side.

[00:25:24]>> I'm not saying what he's doing is >> you know for a fact >> that he lied >> and he was called on that lie and you just let him sit with it and let him get away with it. That's fine.

[00:25:34]>> That's what you want to do. That's fine.

[00:25:35]I don't respect you for it.

[00:25:38]>> There was nothing invalid about my argument. All he did was use randomized insults and randomized [ __ ] [ __ ] to talk over people and to take up the time.

[00:25:49]>> And he never once addressed any question I asked him.

[00:25:52]>> That he lied about my responses. When he said that I didn't give a response that actually defended my position when I did.

[00:25:59]>> All he did was say, "Hey, what's your position?" When I started answering his question, he interrupts halfway and asks me the same question over again. So, I keep doing it. when I finally get it out and I say this is my position because and give the actual supporting evidence for it, then he ends up saying, "Oh, he never gave any supporting evidence when ignoring that it actually occurred." So, yeah, I understand some people don't like how aggressive I can get. But I don't like when people are [ __ ] dishonest, and I was never [ __ ] dishonest in any of that any of the engagement. Everything I said was [ __ ] spot on and honest.

[00:26:30]>> Your argument was valid. My argument was there. He lied. The whole Neutral post is a neutral party is not neutral. Host is not neutral.

[00:26:42]>> Every single person is biased. Every single person has a position. Nobody is neutral.

[00:26:47]>> Well, hold on. Like everybody is biased, but my >> and I do not respect >> Wait, hold on.

[00:26:52]>> You taking the dishonest side. Just let him get away with the [ __ ] >> Okay. Um I'm going to speak now, right?

[00:26:58]So, everybody does have a bias, but like my job here is simply to facilitate the debate. And like, of course, I do have to review the debate and see whether like what Kylo said was truthful or like um not truthful. Maybe I'll even make a video about it. But like that's a beef between you two. You guys are the ones engaging in debate. I'm just here facilitating.

[00:27:18]>> I'm giving my beef with you right now, man.

[00:27:22]>> I'm not. And again, like I'm not taking his side. I'm not saying like, oh, OG Ko is >> I'm saying you are.

[00:27:28]>> How so?

[00:27:28]>> Your inability to even address what occurred >> is taking that aside.

[00:27:36]>> I'm not addressing it because I'm not addressing it because I'm stepping out of it. It's between you two. And also, I was making like back then you took his side.

[00:27:43]>> No, that's not taking a side. That's unbiased. He's a host. He's an unbiased host.

[00:27:48]>> All right.

[00:27:49]>> He is not unbiased.

[00:27:52]There is no such thing as an unfair >> to end your friendship with Coco cuz you got cooked by me.

[00:27:57]>> No, I'm going to say I don't respect the [ __ ] things that he did.

[00:28:00]>> Cuz I cooked.

[00:28:01]>> He doesn't want to take that. That's on him. I give my >> You mad at Coco cuz I cooked you.

[00:28:06]>> No, I pissed at you for lying.

[00:28:08]>> Why is pissed at you for using insults instead of argumentation?

[00:28:13]>> Yo, Kyle, >> I'm mad at you for the dishonesty you showed. I think you're a [ __ ] debater and are incapable of using anything but rhetoric.

[00:28:21]>> Oh, shoot. Oh, do you want to go? Okay, but anyway, >> I don't care if the audience votes that you won.

[00:28:29]>> I said that I don't give a [ __ ] Congratulations.

[00:28:32]>> You won based on lies and rhetoric.

[00:28:34]Congrats.

[00:28:34]>> You ever watch Dragon Ball?

[00:28:35]>> Hope you feel good about that. Hope that makes you feel smart.

[00:28:38]>> But like I said before, watch Dragon Ball.

[00:28:40]>> Wisdom's [ __ ] vegan, dude. You could use it anytime you want. But anyway, you ever watched Dragon Ball before?

[00:28:47]>> Yes, I watched Dragon Ball. Why is he Why is he Maj Vegeta, bro? Why is he attacking the crowd?

[00:28:52]>> It's all right. It's all right. We We can attack no crowds. I'm talking to you directly.

[00:28:57]>> Yeah. Yeah, we can.

[00:28:58]>> You're attacking everybody but the opponent, bro. Let's move.

[00:29:00]>> We can move on.

[00:29:01]>> Uh I was talking to Kylo >> and I was talking to Coco.

[00:29:05]>> Last time I'm going to say it. We can move on, guys. My bad. Okay. So, now we're going to we're going to start a new >> I'll I'll chuck deuces and move on. But no, [ __ ] man. You the [ __ ] you did today and [ __ ] yesterday for that matter.

[00:29:20]>> All right. That's up to you, man.

[00:29:22]>> If you if you want to fix your behavior, that's up to you.

[00:29:25]>> Okay. Yeah, >> that's [ __ ] and you know it.

[00:29:27]>> So, okay. We heard you, Matthew.

[00:29:29]>> All right. All right. So, next debate.

[00:29:32]>> Umate Yeah. [ __ ] off.

[00:29:35]>> Do you have any >> [ __ ] off.

[00:29:37]>> We heard you, Matthew. for the fifth time.

[00:29:39]>> We heard you.

[00:29:40]>> Okay. I mean, like I'm trying to move on. Like you you have a beef with OG Kylo that's between like you and OG Kylo. Like um I'm not really on this. I just have to review the footage.

[00:29:52]>> Um but next debate, bro.

[00:29:54]>> Um do you have any atheists in the audience who want to come up and debate?

[00:29:58]Do we have any Christians in the audience who want to come up and debate?

[00:30:00]Um >> um I'm hosting short debates between Christians and atheists and I'm making some background. I just want to put this out there. You know, if then could refer to a connective material implication.

[00:30:12]So, it's not just if then when you're cashing out loans pond. Just want to put that out there.

[00:30:18]>> But, um, >> they didn't know that. Yeah. Had to let them know. [music]