Cutting The Smash Roster in HALF

Added: 2026-05-27

[00:00:00]So, I figured it was about time that I should throw my hat into the ring to half all of the Smash Ultimate roster.

[00:00:08]There are 82 characters in the game and we are cutting 41. Which ones will leave? Which ones will stay in the Ultimate Fight and I am joined here with Kitan Chaz and Yoshkin as we deliberate who has to go? Who will be deported from the Ultimate Turney? World of Light just got new border laws and some people got to go. Okay.

[00:00:32]>> Yeah. Darkon can pick the rest of them.

[00:00:34]>> And uh this tier list we have here is actually in alphabetical order. And for some reason uh Banjo and Kazouie are listed as two separate characters. So that's funny.

[00:00:45]The the same thing with Nana and Popo.

[00:00:48]I don't I don't know why >> mains bro good. But let's just let's just go let's just go alphabetically for now. So Bayonetta, >> she can cut. Like Bayonetta hasn't had a new game in its series in a while, and most people really don't care anymore.

[00:01:06]>> It's been only like four years.

[00:01:08]>> Okay. Well, that's four years without anything.

[00:01:10]>> A lot of people do not like that game, though. At least >> Wasn't there a spin-off in uh 2024?

[00:01:16]>> There was a spin-off, and it was pretty good from what my friends have told me.

[00:01:20]>> But how? However, however, the real reason we need a cutter is she has too much sex appeal. Okay, look guys, when you see a hot woman and you objectify her, it's like you're going to be playing one-handed and we can't just we can't have that anymore. Okay, the time of having attractive women in our video games has longed past us. I have no idea what the [ __ ] Sakurai was thinking adding Bayonetta into this game. And quite frankly, we need to rectify that.

[00:01:46]Man, we are we are just pissing everyone off already. Uh we could I don't know.

[00:01:51]You could have mentioned like how she completely ruined the meta game in Smash 4 and they stopped patching the game. I knew that game was hope. The same thing with this game with Ultimate. They stopped patching the game and all the Steans were like, I'm going to keep all the broken stuff. I'm going to keep all the broken stuff secret until they stop patching this game. Once they stop patching the game, who became the best character in the game?

[00:02:15]I hate how Steve and Sonic are number one and two, though. That's >> Sonic kind of makes sense cuz he's really fast and he has a decent kit, but >> his play style is horrible. Just horrible.

[00:02:27]>> Well, well, here's the thing. It's like you can play Sonic hyper aggressive, but the optimal way to really win is the hit and run passive play style.

[00:02:37]>> Exactly. You have a Sonic that like is non-stop getting on someone, but then they get punished for like a bad dash attack. Then you have a Sonic character, player or whatever that like hits you once, backs off, and times you out cuz hey, he's playing to win. But >> okay, we need Yeah, we need to actually be on topic. All right, Bowser is staying Bowser stays.

[00:02:56]>> I'd say cut.

[00:02:58]>> Yeah, cut Bowser Jr. That's fine. Too me Mario reps as is.

[00:03:02]>> Yeah, like we Falcon original. Yeah, I think staying staying just because he is the Smash character. Charizard.

[00:03:12]No, no, no, no. Hear me out here. No, no, no, no, no. Here's why I think Pokemon trainer stays.

[00:03:17]>> It's like the Charizard Ivysur.

[00:03:20]>> So, okay, here's the thing. Pokemon trainer is listed as 33 through 35. We could cut them individually, but if we have >> I don't like that. Okay.

[00:03:31]>> Right. I I think the way Pokemon trainer plays is very unique. Like the whole switching mechanic was kind of gutted except for like Pyro and Mithra, but you know, Sheik and Zelda, they were separated. And then, you know, in Smash 4, they separated them with just Charizard, which kind of sucked, you know, but it works fine, but I think the Pokemon trainer works better as like a Smash Pokemon rep. That's just what I think. Okay. So, I think taking up three slots [ __ ] move Charizard all the way to the right. We do this right.

[00:04:04]>> Okay.

[00:04:05]>> Oh, >> yeah. Yeah.

[00:04:06]>> All right. Uh, is this Crom?

[00:04:08]>> That's Cro. That's >> okay. Crom is an echo. Crom is an echo.

[00:04:13]Echo.

[00:04:14]>> Yeah. So, well, yeah. So, what we're doing, we're not we are just completely disregarding all echo fighters just because uh it it creates a perverse incentive to cut characters echo fighters. We need to just completely disregard them. They are not numbered characters though. Cloud, >> we are trying to piss off as many people as possible. If you love your echo fighter, go [ __ ] yourself. If you think we should cut all echo fighters, go [ __ ] yourself.

[00:04:37]>> I don't think I've made anybody that's an e that has an echo.

[00:04:40]>> Okay, so here's the thing with cloud.

[00:04:42]The thing is, okay, it's it's a third party character. Square Enix has been uh notoriously difficult to work with throughout Smash Bros.

[00:04:50]I could see them still giving Cloud back, but I still say most third party if we're cutting half the roster, most of them should be cut.

[00:04:57]>> I'd say most like if we're for third parties to keep, I say just the three in base Smash 4 and maybe Steve.

[00:05:04]>> Yeah, >> you know, I think >> I can see Namco with Pac-Man, uh, Mega Man, and Sonic.

[00:05:11]>> I mean, Ryu would probably be all okay.

[00:05:12]Corin, easiest cut in my life.

[00:05:14]>> Yeah, >> it's Daisy and Neko. All the echo all the echo fighters starting with D.

[00:05:20]Diddy.

[00:05:21]>> Diddy Kong. Cut Diddy. No. No. No.

[00:05:24]Diddy. No. [ __ ] Diddy.

[00:05:27]>> Wait. Why do you Why do you want Diddy to stay, man? Do you know what he's done?

[00:05:32]>> Okay. You know what?

[00:05:33]>> That Diddy.

[00:05:34]>> In light of the al in light of the allegations, I think we have to let Diddy go. But Donkey Kong can stay.

[00:05:39]>> Dr. Donkey Kong stays.

[00:05:42]>> Is an echo. Oh, wait.

[00:05:43]>> He's an echo.

[00:05:44]>> No, he's not an echo.

[00:05:45]>> He's not. He is okay. He was in Melee, but then he kind of got new moves.

[00:05:50]>> I'm looking at the I'm looking at Smash Brothers with all of them as considered echoes. He's not considered an echo.

[00:05:56]>> Okay, fair enough. Fair enough.

[00:05:57]>> Um, still cut him.

[00:05:59]>> I'm leaning towards >> Yeah, cut that. Cut.

[00:06:03]>> Okay, so we have Star Fox, which just received a new announcement. You know, obviously that ever stays.

[00:06:12]>> I think I think >> Fox and Falco should stay and Wolf will get cut like in >> Okay. Okay, that's >> Yeah, I'm feeling that.

[00:06:20]>> Ganondorf stays.

[00:06:22]>> Yeah, Ganondorf, but he should be absolutely retoled. Greninja is kind of an edge case here.

[00:06:27]>> Yeah, I think he plays different. I think he plays different enough from most of the Pokemon where I would like him to stay. Yeah, I I >> I think >> but Okay, here's the thing is that like the um the biggest counterpart to Greninja would be Sheic here. I think Chic should absolutely get cut.

[00:06:44]>> Yeah, >> like she appeared in one game for like barely any time, barely any screen time.

[00:06:50]>> The worst Zelda game as well, mind you.

[00:06:53]>> Okay, let's not go. Okay. Yeah. No, I'm going to have to soup like Chaz next time I see him.

[00:06:59]>> That's not even my favorite Zelda game.

[00:07:01]It's just a fine game though.

[00:07:03]>> Yeah, but like I think there are definitely better Zelda reps that can uh you know represent either more of the series or just uh you know have a cooler move set.

[00:07:13]>> We already going to cut Young Link and Toon Link.

[00:07:15]>> Oh, definitely.

[00:07:16]>> They don't need >> Yeah, Ice Climbers. No, like who Ice Climbers as a game doesn't matter as like the characters themselves. Just who cares?

[00:07:27]>> Yeah, >> I want them to have a new game eventually. Yeah, we should.

[00:07:30]>> Oh, wow. Another mid 2D plat. Well, what Ice Climbers the Metroid Vania? Oh my god. A rogue like Ice Climbers game. How about that?

[00:07:41]>> Yeah, why not? That sounds great.

[00:07:42]Actually, somebody may >> That sounds [ __ ] No one would play that.

[00:07:47]>> I don't think you see the vision.

[00:07:48]>> A lot of Nintendo die I'm about to say.

[00:07:50]I think a lot of Nintendo dieards will play anything.

[00:07:52]>> We need Ice Climber 99.

[00:07:54]>> You'll play anything cuz you're all retards.

[00:07:57]>> Okay. Ike gets cut. They >> we are cut we are cutting Ike, right?

[00:08:02]>> Why?

[00:08:03]>> Um because Path of Radiance and Radiant Dawn weren't even relevant when they released. So and you know obviously this is before the big resurgence of Fire Emblem. So if there is any any Fire Emblem characters, it's definitely >> Well, actually not. I mean, okay, we're going to jump really far in. I'm not going to lie. I would cut Roy before I would cut Ike in all honesty. Well, I mean, there's so many Fire Emblem characters is that like he he can easily >> too. Well, here's the thing. Like, if you have Marth and Ike and Bith, the three of them are like different eras of Fire Emblem games. They all play differently as well, and they all have like their own unique identities and stuff. So, I think there's only three Fire Emblems.

[00:08:48]>> Okay. Absolutely not. You have to have an awakening rep in there. And it's absolutely Robin.

[00:08:53]>> Okay.

[00:08:54]Yeah. Okay. Fair enough.

[00:08:56]>> Yeah. So, >> a lot of people dog on like Fire Emblem and ultimate, but it's probably keep in mind you keep Roy, you keep Crown.

[00:09:03]>> Yeah. Well, >> is basically we don't have any We're not talking about echoes. I mean, ideally, right, if if Ike and Roy were both cut, Crom would be more unique in comparison.

[00:09:16]>> I'm not saying Crom is literally an echo of Roy.

[00:09:18]>> Yeah, but Yeah, exactly. But he literally does >> he's not an echo of Roy. He's like a combi. He has He's like an amalgamation of Roy, Ike, and Marth.

[00:09:28]>> I agree with you, but it's still echo of Roy.

[00:09:31]>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I get you. I get you.

[00:09:33]>> Cut the best Pokemon in the game.

[00:09:35]>> Incinor. Like, no one likes him. You know, I'm talking about the best Pokemon in Pokemon. That is cuz he's way too [ __ ] good.

[00:09:43]>> Yeah, it's >> I like his play style in Smash Bros. I This is like I This was a horrible last announcement character. In ankling definitely stays.

[00:09:53]>> Isabelle definitely stays.

[00:09:55]>> Jigglypuff Isabelle stays.

[00:09:58]>> Cut Jigglypuff.

[00:10:00]>> He's the f he's a furry Yoshkin. He has an agenda. Let's just move past it and not talk about it.

[00:10:06]>> Jigglypuff is one of the original I'd say.

[00:10:09]>> Okay. Well, well, no. No, no. Here's the thing. The whole idea of the original 12, you guys need to stop doing that.

[00:10:16]Like, we need to move on. Just because they were in the beginning doesn't mean that they should stay.

[00:10:21]>> Jigglypuff [ __ ] sucks. No. Jigglypuff was only added as one of the original 12 because of budget and time restraints.

[00:10:29]Oh, we have a pink sphere. Is there anything else that's a pink sphere we could add? Oh, [ __ ] Jigglypuff.

[00:10:36]It's Jigglypuff was put in there just purely as we have to get one more.

[00:10:41]>> It's a waste of a character slot.

[00:10:44]Any other GOING TO USE YOSHI. You're going to USE THIS TO JUSTIFY YOSHI. I KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO DO THAT. SO, NO.

[00:10:54]>> NO. I Okay, we are cutting Jigglypuff.

[00:10:57]The whole Oh, we got to hold on to the original 12 is some cucked [ __ ] Okay.

[00:11:02]>> What? What do you think, manic? You need the tiebreaker.

[00:11:04]>> Jigglypuff is the only character in the original Smash Bros. that should be cut.

[00:11:09]>> Yeah. Uh Ken's an echo. DDD stays. King K Rule stays.

[00:11:14]>> I say all of them.

[00:11:15]>> Yep.

[00:11:15]>> No. No. I I said we could cut K rule.

[00:11:18]>> No, no, keep we keep the King Croc.

[00:11:21]>> Okay, Link is there.

[00:11:22]>> Okay, little Mac gets cut.

[00:11:25]>> Oh, >> so the thing is if he got a new Punch Out game in the next few years, it's like, oh, [ __ ] yeah, Mac stays in like but hell yeah, Mac. But yeah, he hasn't had any like good games since Punch Out Wii.

[00:11:38]>> And uh played that later on.

[00:11:39]>> You know, we we love our low tier reps.

[00:11:42]However, if any character has to get cut, it's like, you know, sorry, Mac.

[00:11:46]>> Yeah. Also, >> gadget guarded.

[00:11:49]>> Another another thing to uh point out is that little Mac, I don't know. It's a kind of thing where like your dad would recognize Lil Mac or just Punch Out in general because of like the Mike Tyson uh connection, right? And I I don't know. I I like I like Lil Mac. Uh you know, I like Punch Out.

[00:12:07]>> Cool.

[00:12:07]>> And I don't know, he was referenced in both Mario movies, but I think he just doesn't. We we can come back to it. But now Lucario. Lucario.

[00:12:15]>> I think Lucario could stay. Lucario could stay.

[00:12:18]>> The the thing is Lucario Lucario is like a big Pokemon. Like very famous in the Pokemon community. Thing is one of the least played characters in Smash Ultimate.

[00:12:28]>> Well, just cuz rather would you have Lucario or would you have Mewtwo?

[00:12:36]>> Mewtwo.

[00:12:36]>> Yeah, I'd rather have Mewtwo.

[00:12:38]>> I'd rather have Mewtwo.

[00:12:39]>> All right.

[00:12:40]>> So, get get Mewtwo up in there. Yeah, we'll keep we will keep Mewtwo now.

[00:12:45]>> Jin Jin Jin Jin. Yeah, [ __ ] Lucas. You know what? [ __ ] Ness as well. No one cares about Earthbound. No one cares about mother. You can go TALK TO YOUR GO CRY TO your mommy. Go cry to your mother cuz your OPINIONS [ __ ] SUCK. EVERYONE THAT'S LIKE, "MOTHER, MOTHER, MOTHER, mother three, just shut the [ __ ] up."

[00:13:05]Okay. Also, the way they plan this game, PK Fire, PK Fire. If you pick Ness and Lucas, you actually have no father.

[00:13:13]That's why you're a mother fan. Cuz your dad abandoned you. That's why you play like a [ __ ] [ __ ] Ness. [ __ ] Lucas.

[00:13:21]Cut them both.

[00:13:22]>> The next five should stay.

[00:13:24]>> The ne Okay. L. Okay. Luigi.

[00:13:27]>> Luigi stays. Luigi may be Luigi.

[00:13:30]>> Mega Man and now the Miis.

[00:13:33]>> Yeah, I think the Mi should stay. The whole idea stay eventually. Yeah, they they will stay. As much as you might dislike the Miis, they have a unique play style. They have a unique gimmick, you know, and >> and we got to sell some more Sans Undertale Mi Fighter costumes. [ __ ] yeah.

[00:13:51]>> Yeah. Yeah. I think like it's it's too it's too monetizable to uh let go of.

[00:13:56]>> Exactly. Watch considering he was he was >> he was just in the Mario Galaxy movie.

[00:14:02]>> No. No. Cut him. Cut him.

[00:14:04]>> Really? I I want to learn your I want to know your reasoning before I agree or disagree.

[00:14:09]>> I am like super racist and I just see a black void and >> I don't know. I just don't want him in the board.

[00:14:16]>> Should I get off the call then, sir?

[00:14:18]>> No, of course not. You're green. You're a Yoshi.

[00:14:21]>> You're Yoshkin. Don't you know? So So okay, like in all honesty with Game and Watch, it's like he he has the legacy staying power of super old Nintendo property. Like you said, he's in the Mario movie and in all honesty, like as much as people hate like upy of shield, he has a somewhat unique fun like gimmick play style. You know, you get a nine judgment. It's like Yeah. So, a game watch could stay.

[00:14:48]>> Yeah, I think we'll have we'll have like a a cutting room floor here to just like as a docket just so like at towards the end we can come back to them. Olar definitely stays. We got to have a >> show. Yeah. Pikmin 4 came out not too long ago that good.

[00:15:06]>> Well, just because Okay. Yeah. So, if the game's not that good, it should not be there. Okay. So, get [ __ ] Mega Man out of there. Star Fox, every Legend of Zelda character of all time cuz every Legend of Zelda game sucks ass.

[00:15:21]Yeah, Splatoon as well. That those games suck. Uh, so yeah.

[00:15:26]>> Okay. Look man's gonna keep palletena.

[00:15:30]Okay. Pal palletena should be c look keep pit. Palutena gets cut. I think I think that's that's the correct way.

[00:15:36]Like if any pallet can just you know be a final smash for pit.

[00:15:40]>> Peach and Pichu >> would peach peach stays. Pikachu Pichu is cut.

[00:15:46]>> Pikachu.

[00:15:47]>> Peach is an echo. Pichu is an echo.

[00:15:49]>> Peach and Pichu. I would say character.

[00:15:53]>> Really?

[00:15:54]>> Yes.

[00:15:54]>> Okay.

[00:15:55]>> And then Pa play. plan. Get him out of there.

[00:15:58]>> Pokemon trainer, we already >> trainer up.

[00:16:00]>> Yeah, Pokemon trainer is the same as the three. So, >> RTOR and then Okay, Ridley stays.

[00:16:07]>> Yeah, stays.

[00:16:09]>> Yeah, got to keep Ridley.

[00:16:10]>> We got to keep We got to have boss characters. Rob stay.

[00:16:14]>> I think he's freaking annoying. He's one of the most annoying characters.

[00:16:18]>> There's no [ __ ] reason to keep this character in the game. He is a toy.

[00:16:23]Like, it's a Reeve sold a Rob figure.

[00:16:25]Sure, why not? But like he he Rob peaked in the subspace em emissary just adds a [ __ ] shitty piece of crap mob enemy that they turned into a character. He is not interesting. His play style sucks ass. [ __ ] Rob.

[00:16:41]>> Don't you think like to represent Brawl Subspace Emissary, Rob should continue to be in the game?

[00:16:48]>> No.

[00:16:49]>> Yes. Like >> Sakurai wants nothing to do with the Subspace Emissary anymore. So yeah, get Rob out of there. This isn't Sakurai's list. This is ours. So, >> yeah. And the thing is, I'm trying to uphold Sakurai's vision. That's why I'm >> They're going to uphold Sakurai's vision. We got to put Palot up there, man.

[00:17:06]>> No, we don't.

[00:17:07]>> Okay.

[00:17:07]>> But no, Rob, get his ass out of there.

[00:17:10]>> Rob was just in the Mario Galaxy movie.

[00:17:12]>> Oh my god.

[00:17:14]>> Same argument for Mr. Gaming Watch, too.

[00:17:16]We can come back to Rob.

[00:17:17]>> Yeah, we we can come back to this. Um, is this I think Robin stays.

[00:17:21]>> I think Robin can stay.

[00:17:23]>> Yeah. Uh, Roselina and Luma.

[00:17:25]>> Rosina, I say stay.

[00:17:29]>> Okay.

[00:17:30]>> I say stay only because they probably >> No, get cut her ass. Just like she was cut out of the majority of the film. Cut her out of this game.

[00:17:38]>> Yeah, she she's not she's not going to get any more relevant after like this year considering like they they pushed her and everything.

[00:17:47]>> Which one would she take over? Ice climbers or Roselina as they >> Roselina Roselina Luma because I can bust a fat nut to Roselina.

[00:17:56]>> Okay. Uh I' Yeah, I'd probably pick Roselina over but to to be I don't know.

[00:18:01]I feel like Ice Climbers got kind of gimped in this game. Like they I don't know. I just prefer how they played in Brawl. Uh I think >> re should stay. I think Ryu should stay, but considering like the third party element, I'm going to put it on the docket just for now because we do have a lot of staying compared to the cuts. Uh Sam, yeah, Sam is obviously Sams.

[00:18:23]>> I say we're >> or Pyro stays, but I say Pyro more because of the game.

[00:18:30]>> Uh, fair enough. I mean, I'm I'm not a Xenolade rep, so I can't really talk.

[00:18:35]Hey, if we're doing if we're doing game cells, we can cut Marth, you know, for for Awakening in Three Houses, you know, like uh Okay. Okay. I think I don't know. I think I think all >> Yeah. Well, the thing is they are releasing another Castlevania game. Even though it's probably going to be dog [ __ ] they're still releasing a new one.

[00:18:55]So, and as much as we dislike the Netflix adaptations like with DMC and all that, there is still a TV show series being made about Castlevania. It has staying power. People really like it. I think Simon could stay.

[00:19:11]>> Yeah. But, you know, we when we're cutting half the roster, of course, third party's got >> I know. I I know. I know. I'm just >> just trying to defend my homie.

[00:19:21]>> Yeah. And Snake, I think it's fairly obvious that Yeah, he he should be cut.

[00:19:26]Uh Sonic, >> so cut. No, no, he's the third party.

[00:19:30]Cut his ass. Get him out of there.

[00:19:32]>> Okay. He he Pac-Man up there.

[00:19:34]>> Yeah, we have >> He was literally one of the first ones.

[00:19:36]>> Yeah, Sonic, Pac-Man, and Mega Man are like the three that I think, you know, fairly solid argument.

[00:19:42]>> Snake was technically first announced, but it's Konami and that's why that's literally the only reason. Toon, get his ass out of there. Villager, we have Isabelle >> 33 right now.

[00:19:54]>> We have Isabelle. Get him out of there.

[00:19:56]>> Wait. Okay, I'm just going to So, we already agreed for cutting wool >> trainer. Nah, >> Yoshi SB.

[00:20:04]>> No. No. Get him out of there. Mario fighting game. Mario. Mario. Mario.

[00:20:14]Yoshi is from the Yoshi series. Yeah, it's a >> You guys are so [ __ ] cucked. I want to just drop him in a pit and be >> I knew this was going to happen, by the way.

[00:20:26]>> I knew it.

[00:20:27]>> Oh, wow. I I knew the obvious pick is that get a [ __ ] character that no one likes and cut him from the game.

[00:20:34]>> Nobody likes >> really.

[00:20:37]Well, why why is there a step too far?

[00:20:40]Because people are retards.

[00:20:43]Pear simple.

[00:20:44]>> So that's not that's not an answer, sir.

[00:20:47]That's not an answer at all.

[00:20:50]How many you ask how many PEOPLE LIKE TO UNDERSTAND my answer? It's like an answer.

[00:20:57]>> That's not an answer. HE WAS LIKE, "HOW many people like Yoshi? Too many people are retard." That's not an answer.

[00:21:02]>> Too many people are stupid enough to like Yoshi. And those people vote. Those people, you know, have jobs. And those people are dragging society down in all the worst ways possible. I will say I'm doing only one of those. I have a job. I don't vote.

[00:21:20]>> Okay.

[00:21:21]>> Based base.

[00:21:22]>> Okay. Young link cut. Zelda stays.

[00:21:25]>> Zelda stays.

[00:21:27]>> Yeah. Uh ZSS.

[00:21:29]>> Yeah. Z.

[00:21:29]>> Well, the thing Oh, actually, actually, I want to keep ZSS just to piss off the people like that's not how real women look. I know I cut Bayonetta for that, but ZSS can stay cuz she's hot. No, no, no. She should stay cuz she gets my dick hard. That's how women should look, but the vast majority of women are too fat and ugly to pull off a good cosplay of her.

[00:21:50]>> Speaking of fat and ugly, Mario gets cut.

[00:21:52]>> Yeah. Get Get Wario out of there.

[00:21:54]>> Getting cut.

[00:21:55]>> Yeah.

[00:21:55]>> Yeah.

[00:21:56]>> Okay. So, >> Persona 5.

[00:21:58]>> Now, we have all the DLC for Ultimate.

[00:22:00]>> The only the only two DLC that I think should stay is probably Minman and the Eegis twins. Those are the only two I can think that could >> I can think of staying. I think >> Bith could be too. I think I think Bas should be in the three core of the U.

[00:22:17]>> And and to be fair, although like Persona 5 Mania has kind of passed on us, I think Joker could stay.

[00:22:24]>> Jo like Yeah, cuz like Sega rents out Joker to like every single like collaboration possible.

[00:22:31]>> Exactly. It wouldn't be hard to be like, "Hey, Sakurai, Joker for next Smash."

[00:22:35]It's just like, "Please Sakurai, please."

[00:22:38]>> Okay. I Okay, I'm Okay, so if we cut Jo, >> we're at 30 >> Banjo. Wait, okay, we'll keep >> cut. Banjo Kazoui.

[00:22:48]>> Yeah, we're at 35 right now. So >> I'm honestly leaning more towards cut for >> Minman. I I'd like little ramen. I actually want No, the thing is arms. No one cares about arms. Uh she has a boring ass play style. No one likes her.

[00:23:03]Same with Yoshi. So, >> okay. So now I want her now. 35 for staying.

[00:23:10]>> Yeah, I think Okay, so cut villager. Um I think >> I'd say villager should stay over Isabelle.

[00:23:15]>> No, I think I think >> No, Isabelle has the sex appeal.

[00:23:19]>> Okay, buddy.

[00:23:20]>> Yeah, you're a you manic. I want to make sure Manic feels represented, guys.

[00:23:30]>> Okay. Um yeah, honest honestly.

[00:23:34]>> Well, okay. Look, for like Animal Crossing, Isabelle is more of a mascot character. She's like the Pikachu for Animal Crossing, right? So, I I think that >> we can keep Steve and Cut because he doesn't need to come back.

[00:23:48]>> Okay. Yeah.

[00:23:48]>> No. No. Okay. No. Like, here's here's the thing. Minecraft is big. It's never not going to be big. I think Minecraft Steve could stay in Smash reopen a lot of these characters to be gone.

[00:24:03][ __ ] legacy character.

[00:24:05]>> Okay, for some reason there's an uneven amount. So I guess we could just move them there with no I'm trying to think.

[00:24:10]Is that >> Pythra? Pythra.

[00:24:12]>> I say together already here.

[00:24:15]>> Oh, I'm I'm sorry. This list is that's exactly at 41 >> and cut or wait a second.

[00:24:22]>> And staying.

[00:24:24]>> Okay. I mean that's >> personally I swap out Bith for Pythra personally.

[00:24:30]>> No, absolutely not. B Violet is staying um with you mean Schul? I mean I'm okay swapping I wouldn't mind pyro.

[00:24:40]>> Oh, there he is. There he is. I see him.

[00:24:42]My bad.

[00:24:42]>> Yeah, my bad.

[00:24:43]>> Okay. Are we swapping the Xenolade reps?

[00:24:45]>> I don't mind it.

[00:24:46]>> Yeah. Yeah. Get some big titty women in there.

[00:24:49]>> I also don't like how uh Shul look his model looks in this game. His face looks creepy.

[00:24:54]>> Okay. Um I mean I guess that's that's very um representative of the Wii version, right? You know the game. Oh, honestly, it's like the Smash 4 model looks better than the Smash U model.

[00:25:06]>> It's kind of weird, >> but I >> I'm not going to lie. It'd be really funny to remove Greninja, replace it with anything else. That way, it's only Gin one Pokemon. That would be absolutely hysterical.

[00:25:18]>> Okay, you know what? Switch Greninja for Jigglypuff then.

[00:25:21]>> No, no, no.

[00:25:24]>> One Pokemon.

[00:25:26]>> Okay, switch.

[00:25:26]>> No, just like get Greninja out of there.

[00:25:28]replace with anyone else >> with what about with nest?

[00:25:32]>> No. No. Not none.

[00:25:33]>> Yeah. Do we need all those different types of Miis? We could probably swap out two of them and only leave like Brawler.

[00:25:39]>> No. No. The me like the trio of them.

[00:25:44]They're They're staying cuz we're trying to make money. Yoshkin. Okay.

[00:25:47]>> Yeah.

[00:25:48]>> Think we make money, but Okay. Well, I don't >> you But we're making executive money over like, you know, Sans's Undertale costumes.

[00:25:56]>> Exactly. over tomb sahor for me sword fighter >> weirdosh >> he doesn't get it medic >> I don't >> he does not get >> 67 67 >> that I don't want him to understand and man understands why >> okay but I think I think I I understand you know I think if this was the But it'd be understandable.

[00:26:28]>> 15.

[00:26:29]>> I mean, I think that there are still too many Mario reps for the Nintendo, you know, flagship fighting game. But >> are there too many?

[00:26:39]>> No. No. I'm just being I'm just trying to beat people in the audience. I'm just trying to get people >> I mean, I don't know. People were really >> Yeah, people were really against my apprehension to Wario uh in a previous >> No, [ __ ] [ __ ] Warriio. Who cares?

[00:26:54]I mean, okay, >> people only want Wario because they see themselves in that character. And to cut Wario would be cutting themselves, right? Cuz I like playing Wario cuz I rip ass all the time. I I'm fat as hell, look like [ __ ] and obnoxious to be around, aka 99% of Smash players.

[00:27:14]>> I mean, not going to lie, you were kind of cooking right there.

[00:27:17]>> So, the Donkey Kong reps being just like DK and Kroll, that's fine. Yeah, >> I think that's all right. I think I think that's >> Fox Falco. That's fine.

[00:27:26]>> Love how we mostly have just uh Smash 64 and Melee for the most part.

[00:27:31]>> Not for the most part. I mean, we have we have the we have more Kirby reps. We have a more diverse.

[00:27:38]>> You got Mega Man. You got Ryu as well.

[00:27:42]Now, I would love to have another fighting game rep in there because Sakurai himself has said stuff like King of Fighters was a huge inspiration for him. So, if we're going to cut Steve, I say we could add Terry back in there.

[00:27:55]>> Cut or >> I'm fine with that man being cut.

[00:27:59]>> So, the the thing is what if hypothetically if we cut the three me characters, right? Like, let's just say, you know, for as much as we know that they're going to stay, let's actually, how about this? Get them out of there for now. Who would do we replace them with? Brawler. I would replace Brawler with Terry. I think that's fine.

[00:28:15]>> Yeah, definitely. So for another sword character, probably uh Roy or Ike.

[00:28:21]>> Not another Fire Emblem. Not another Fire Emblem.

[00:28:24]>> Not another one. Okay. Um >> I I mean I don't I don't think we h it has to be like if anything I would add I would add I would add Ness brought back.

[00:28:34]>> No, Ness is not coming back. He He's in timeout >> because he's in timeout for being a stupid little [ __ ] spamming PK Fire. I mean, we have literally no like retro throwback picks.

[00:28:46]>> Good. We We got to move on, manic.

[00:28:49]That's the point of like the next game is to move on to new horizons, to the next level of gaming. You just want to always stay in the past. No, no. You just want to stay in the past cuz that's where you're comfortable.

[00:29:02]>> I'm trying to push myself.

[00:29:04]>> I think I think this works. Like adding like Ness and Raw back. I think it just worked.

[00:29:09]>> No. No. I I don't I don't see the vision >> like you know ne you know nest the the mother series you know it's a cult classic you know >> look at those soulless eyes and tell me >> can you even play mother on >> why would I want to play >> why would I want there's like a thousand >> on the switch too >> there are I don't have a switch too >> I think it's on SNES online like you can just you know it's a part of the subscription so >> but no like why would you want to play Mother it's the boring, soulless RPG, but people only say, "Oh, it's so good.

[00:29:45]It's so awesome." Just cuz they grew up with it. Guess what? The Mother Series sucks. Why do you think the Mother series was never properly, you know, translated and made into like, you know, the US copies and whatnot?

[00:29:58]>> They [ __ ] suck. Okay. Okay. Mother 3 has not been translated and that's not getting Lucas isn't coming over. Ness, however, right, that was released, you know, in America.

[00:30:09]>> How old is it?

[00:30:10]I don't know, like 95.

[00:30:12]>> Yeah. So, it's too wolf.

[00:30:14]>> We cut Lucas.

[00:30:15]>> Yeah, we cut Lucas.

[00:30:16]>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We cut Lucas. He was a crybaby [ __ ] back in Brawl. Why the [ __ ] >> Oh, let's pay another $5 for [ __ ] Lucas.

[00:30:25]>> Yeah, Nintendo, shut up and take my money.

[00:30:29]>> Yeah, I I think this this is this is a fairly good roster up here, I must say.

[00:30:35]You know, I >> having Ryu and Terry works for like the fighting game aspect of it. Kirby characters are fine.

[00:30:42]>> Zelda characters are fine.

[00:30:44]>> I mean, having the three Triforce characters just that that just kind of works. Like that just makes sense.

[00:30:49]Sorry, no impas and whatnot, but whatever.

[00:30:52]>> I mean, we're not add This isn't the one where we're adding to it. That's uh that's the next video. If there's any one character we could just cut, I think it could be Pit >> cuz like the kid the kid Icorus series has had no newer installment like in forever.

[00:31:07]>> We haven't had one in 13 years cuz if I'm not mistaken, Upright came out 2013.

[00:31:12]>> Yeah, it's it's like if there's any one of these that we just could cut and replace with anything else, Pit can go.

[00:31:19]>> Yeah.

[00:31:20]>> What would you replace Pit with? I'm thinking either >> probably ZSS.

[00:31:24]>> Yeah, ZSS or ZSS. Not ZS. No, we're not doing that.

[00:31:28]>> Yes.

[00:31:29]>> No.

[00:31:30]>> I play video games to make my my ding-dong rock hard.

[00:31:34]>> What about What about Minman instead of um pit?

[00:31:37]>> No. Her her arms are just How could she beat me off with those arms, bro? She's going to make like her arms.

[00:31:46]>> It's either some fire, a giant like wrecking ball. I I look, I'm into a lot of freaky [ __ ] right? I I I beat my dick like it owes me money all the time.

[00:31:57]However, I want to actually work when I'm done. And with Minman, it's never like it's the best nut I could possibly ever get and then it's done. Like it will never work ever again. And I don't think I could live like live like that.

[00:32:10]Like that's just what I'm saying. So that's why ZSS should come back.

[00:32:15]>> All right. Uh still not adding her. Um we're going to we're keeping it like that up there. I think I think it's a solid roster. Uh, >> I didn't think you guys were going to cut half. I thought you guys were going to cut like until 60 because they're going to add new characters, too.

[00:32:32]>> Yeah. Yeah. But the the thought experiment is literally just cutting cutting half of the roster. And I think this is a fairly good way to do it, you know, just I like you have um you have a good amount of series represented and I think you like the bigger ones are definitely uh they have a good amount, but it's not too much. You're not getting too much into the tertiary characters for any of the series.

[00:32:54]>> Yeah, the club shits like Yoshi. Oh, wait.

[00:32:57]>> Yoshi's staying.

[00:32:58]>> Yeah, Yoshi's staying. There's There's no arguing there.

[00:33:00]>> Yeah, Yoshi's staying. There's no argument.

[00:33:03]>> Exactly.

[00:33:04]>> Exactly. Thank you for >> Exactly. Thank you for repeating that.

[00:33:07]>> I love having a parrot.

[00:33:08]>> I love having a parrot.

[00:33:10]>> See, it's so wonderful.

[00:33:12]>> So wonderful. It's just so great.

[00:33:16]>> Never change, Chaz. Never change.

[00:33:18]>> Never change. Give or take. Yeah. Never change awful [ __ ] tier list. NEVER CHANGE. YOU [ __ ] YOU SHOULD HAVE REPEATED ALL OF IT. WOULD HAVE BEEN FUNNIER.

[00:33:29]>> NO. NO. NO. What's even funnier is me keeping up with this bit that every character you love. Yes. You watching this, you listening to this at home, the character you love the most should never come back. Their series should [ __ ] die, burn. The next game that comes out, no one buys it. No one plays it. Zero out of tens. That's what should happen to you.