Stunning new images in UFO files released by Pentagon

Added: 2026-05-09

[00:00:00]Now to a story I can promise you will also be hot on your social media feed today. Uh that what the hell is that thing? That's what a lot of people are wondering. The Pentagon is releasing more than 160 declassified files. You see that eight-ointed star right there?

[00:00:14]They are identified as an unidentified flying object. In fact, President Trump wanted you, the American citizen, to see that. So let's talk about it. Bringing in Stanford pathology professor Gary Nolan. You're seeing the same thing I'm seeing. I never thought I would be talking on legitimate broadcast news about the potential for alien life, but here we are. You've done extensive work with those who claim to have interacted with these UAPs. So, first of all, can you talk about your work related to unidentified flying objects?

[00:00:46]>> So, actually primarily it got started with uh another disease which was or a so-called disease which was the uh Havana syndrome. I got brought in to help study the blood of people who'd claimed to have that and then eventually got exposed to the UAP area, you know, and and I think the what what's been happening is that there's lots of people say there's no evidence. There's plenty of evidence. Evidence is just data.

[00:01:12]Evidence is not proof of something, but the evidence like what you've just shown there is pretty extraordinary. You know, I don't know what that is. I have never seen that before and I've seen a lot of things behind the scenes. Uh so what it does is it opens I think the imagination for people to say okay well the data is real. So now anybody now that we believe that the data is real now anybody can come up with hypothesis about what the evidence means just like evidence is not proof in court evidence is just we believe that this data is real.

[00:01:46]>> You know I'm from a part of the United States where uh known as skinwalker ranch. I don't know if you are aware.

[00:01:52]>> Oh I'm very well aware of it. Yeah. So that's my hometown. So I grew up hearing about UFOs all the time and talking to people who genuinely felt like not only had they seen them, but also had some impacts because they had seen them.

[00:02:06]You've tracked some of the impacts. Do you know of any impacts or changes to those who have claimed actually seen or interacted with any of these things?

[00:02:14]Well, I first uh well, all the people that I've worked with on this, at least let's say the lay public is they are stunned of what it is that they've seen and they know what they've seen wasn't wasn't reasonable. You know, it's not a distant moving star. They've seen things up close. Now, these are, you know, in scientific terms, anecdotes, but you have to ask the question, how many anecdotes eventually make a fact, right?

[00:02:39]what's the statistics around how many of these things make a fact? But they're ridiculed by family. They're ridiculed by uh by the public. They're ridiculed by uh the intelligence agencies. To what end? I mean, from a scientific point of view, it should be allowable to ask questions. Humanity hasn't advanced by not asking questions. So taking something off the table that could be one of the most significant uh re-imagining of where we sit in the universe is unreasonable to me. And you know when I started I started a foundation called the soul foundation with uh David Grush and Peter Scayfish and the whole idea was to find a way to legitimize the discussion of this and the most common feedback I got from people was oh my god thank you for allowing me to talk about this with other people uh who have also seen this thing so I'm not I'm not crazy and they they get to understand that there are many different versions of what is observation.

[00:03:43]This all comes back though from a scientific standpoint to different people have different standards for what it is that they will allow themselves to believe. My standard at least from a scientific st point of view is can I do something that is reproducible enough that I can hand to another one of my scientific colleagues and they can reproduce it themselves. So, I think what the Trump administration has done for people like this is given them a chance to feel like authority has finally admitted that maybe what they've seen was real. I mean, look at that thing in the background.

[00:04:18]>> Eight-ointed star.

[00:04:20]>> What What is that? I don't know. That's the most remarkable thing that I've seen since the so-called Tic Tacs.

[00:04:27]>> That's right. Well, and I I would imagine that scientists and people who study these sort of things are looking for characteristics or connective tissue, things that show up frequently in these sightings. Are you seeing any connective tissue there that constitutes calling this a UAP or seeing things that keep them related? Well, certainly that's the most unusual one that I've seen and I'm frankly happy that the Trump administration and the Secretary of War, Pete Hexf, you know, Tulsi Gabbard and Cash Patel have all found the courage to let that that that happen. There are many commonalities between what it is that people see, the fuzzy fields around the objects themselves that make them difficult to take a picture of. And what I see this as the commonalities is it's evidence perhaps of a propulsion. Let's say just that's just an speculation. You know, people ask the question, well, if they're so advanced, why do they crash?

[00:05:21]Well, maybe that's evidence that the means of propulsion is unstable no matter how advanced you are. You know, if if you want to move from 0 to 5,000 mph instantly, you take a risk. So, you know, that's again just speculation. But once you start to collect enough data that you believe, then you can sit around the table with other like-minded individuals and come up with ideas because ideas are the foundation then for somebody to say, "Okay, if they can do it, what can we do?" You know, humanity saw birds fly. Let's figure out how we can fly.

[00:05:56]>> Fascinating conversation. Professor, please let our booking team know that I would like to talk to you offline about some of my history from the Skinwalker ranch.

[00:06:05]>> I would love to hear about that.

[00:06:06]>> Yeah, let's have >> you know all the guys on on the ranch.

[00:06:09]>> All the guys. Well, you know the name Winterton then. Thank you so much, professor. I hope to talk to you. Give me a call. Nice to talk. My gape.