This conversation explores how animal fighting behavior, from sibling wrestling to bighorn sheep and hippos, stems from evolutionary survival instincts for mates and resources, while also discussing the mysterious deep ocean where 80% remains unexplored, raising questions about unknown creatures and the possibility of life forms we haven't yet discovered.
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WNBA’s Sophie Cunningham on Orcas, Aliens & Why the Ocean TERRIFIES HerAjouté :
I feel bad now thinking back like when I used to wrestle with my brother.
We're two We're like our age gap is a little too big. Like I was big I was bigger than him and I just kind of I kind of beat the [ __ ] out of him a little bit and I feel bad about it now.
I should I'll text him after this.
>> I do. Yeah, now you feel bad but like in the moment you're also like that's like the sisterly and like brotherly love that you need. Were you and Were you and Lindsey ever that much um Was your height difference ever crazy? My whole life. Cuz I'm just built different and like Lindsey Lindsey just isn't. Like she's she's not.
But But you know what? She's like more like She's the one who like pinches and scratches and I'm more like [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] you know.
>> Interesting. So it's always Yeah, it's They're different different methods.
So. I just remember with my brother I would tackle him and I would I would This is so bad but you I could end someone's day if we were wrestling if I would scoop them up and then as I'm coming down kind of like let go of my feet and then put all my body weight in my shoulder and then just Not just my brother. Like I mean I wrestled every Like we was always wrestling but like that was the killer is just a [ __ ] shoulder right in your gut and take the wind out of you and then just keep it walking.
I just like why why is that a human thing? Like why why?
>> Fighting? Yeah, like Every animal on the planet they all fight each other. It's [clears throat] for guess what?
Sex and food.
>> Alpha. I don't think that I was fighting my sister for those things. No?
>> more over like a shirt that she stole or something.
Well, that shirt would then go into protective >> [clears throat] >> protection and safety and you were fighting over fabric. Yeah, but not sex or food.
No, but it comes down It's still like if you could break everything down it comes down to like survival.
Yeah, but like >> It's just stupid. I mean some of whatever. I I know you're right. But I mean I whenever I whenever I see two drunk guys at a bar fighting and I'm like these [ __ ] idiots. Like they don't look cool, they don't look tough. However, I think about all those videos you watch there's a there's like let's say let's talk let's say bighorn sheep two bighorn sheep on a mountain. Yeah. There's the female sheep and then there's one of the rams comes walking through. Yeah. Cuz he can smell her and then another one shows up cuz she either put out a mating call or they can smell her whatever.
Those two she's going to she [ __ ] waits there and then those two sheep [ __ ] ram heads at like whatever million miles an hour with so much force and like whoever whichever one of them backs down the other one gets the girl and like and it's so lame and we are civilized society and we should be better than that but like I'm always like it's just so core to like what animals have been doing forever. It's just in a bar and these guys are like drunk and there's like a bad song on.
That's the only difference. Dude, also I was I got like stuck on sometimes I get stuck on like African safari type I don't know Tik Tok stuff. I've no idea.
Yeah, it really is and I saw two hippos really going at it and like dude, insane. Like it was intense. It was super dangerous. Yeah, and they're fast. Yeah. When they when they put a male hippos Yeah.
Two male hippos going at it.
Something that I love about male hippos or not male hippos just hippos in general but like you know like when they poop how they like their tail like this and it goes and >> [laughter] >> I'm like why do they do that? Why do they do that? Cuz they can do whatever they want cuz they're hippos.
You know what I'm talking about though.
Yeah, I saw a video also the other day of an orca at SeaWorld. So, that orca's always pissed. It's Yeah, he's in SeaWorld. He should eat people. I agree.
It swims right by everyone, shits all in the water, swims away, and then comes back, and tail flaps the [ __ ] water onto everyone watching him. And it's just like you're petty, but I get it. Like that was a I agree with everything.
>> [laughter] >> Do you know orcas have never Orcas have never killed a human being in the wild.
Never in the history of them being alive. I'm not surprised. But like people have been like scuba diving with them and watching them, whatever. They like They kill [ __ ] seals for fun all the time. But like for some reason, they know something that we don't know about like human beings, and they like see us as friends.
It's [ __ ] It's so confusing. And I have no idea why. But no one knows why.
>> Here's my thing is I love I love the ocean. Like I think it is like It is so fascinating. I think the animals are beautiful. I think I don't know. But the older I get, I've always wanted to swim with whales. I've always wanted to swim with sharks. The older I get, I'm starting to get really freaked out because of how [ __ ] deep the ocean is. Wait, guys, I swear to god I was going to get here and ask this question, but it's kind of super weird. The ocean, I think 80% of it is like unexplored.
It's so deep and it's so dark. Do we think aliens either live or will come from the ocean? I think the Megalodon I think the Megalodon is real. We know what what it takes for something to live and survive in the ocean. So, I wouldn't consider anything that's like that we don't know about in the ocean to be an alien. I believe in aliens in outer space, but like I think we know enough about the ocean and what already currently lives in it >> [clears throat] >> that I wouldn't call these aliens. But like I'm sure there's [ __ ] that we don't know about. Dude, you're >> big squids Those big squids that live way down low >> Dude, but like think about like Jurassic Park, Jurassic Park and those crazy animals that live I I think that like we know enough that maybe those aliens that like we think are balloons that we think are aren't living in the ocean, but I don't think we know a lot about like the depths of the ocean cuz like no we can't get down there. Even the machines and stuff they eventually break because of the pressure and [ __ ] like that.
All right, Pete. What was that [ __ ] that [ __ ] boat called that little [ __ ] sub?
>> Oh, the the rich the rich billionaires who went in this Yeah, sub merger.
Why would they ever do that?
>> Wait, Kev. Help me help me remember the name. Ocean Gate. The one of them was a kid. Oh. That's sad. I think I'd get scared that like an animal will like will just like get me and like just keep taking me deeper deeper deeper deeper deeper deeper. Like that's what I'd be scared of. But you I think you'd drown and die within 60 seconds cuz you're also like fighting to stay alive. You'd I would rather not do I >> [clears throat] >> Sometimes Sometimes in the pool I'll try to see how long I can hold my breath. Max 12 seconds. I can't hold my breath for [ __ ] [ __ ] I am so bad.
That is horrible. Wes, you need to work on your breathing. Breathing is really good to like reset your system. It's really good for a lot of things.
You're an idiot.
He's getting close to 12. I think he's going to go for a new new personal record. You Yeah, you like passed out.
Like We can't do anything. That's pretty good. That's only 12 seconds.
10 15.
Okay, there's there's something about in the water [clears throat] that just makes it harder for me. I don't know why. But the worst I've 20. I didn't Yeah, I think that was pretty That has nothing to do You should seriously start working on your breathing. I mouth I mouth tape when I go to bed. Does that matter?
It means you only breathe in and out through your nose. It's supposed to be like good for you. No, I know, but I'm saying like for your nervous system like there's different types of breathing that like resets it in like I don't know. You You should like look into the breathing methods. It's actually really good.
Okay.
I'll do that.
You should. You should.
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