Everything You’ve Been Told About Ukraine and Russia Is Backwards

[00:00:00]I mean, it's just amazing the bias in the coverage. And I give you an example.

[00:00:03]I think this uh morning we learned that there was a an intentional strike.

[00:00:08]There's no doubt about it. On a school in Lugansk that we know has killed four children already. It's a secondary school. It's called a college, but I think it's like what we would in the US call high school, a high school of some kind, maybe a private high school. Um 39 injured. You look at the whole building is destroyed and they're afraid there are a lot more people under that, students under that rubble. the the um the death count could go way up and we it's intentional. There were four drones that struck it. You know, one drone maybe that just feared off course it was a mistake, but one after another they knew what they're doing. Complete silence, you know, from the Europeans.

[00:00:46]And the thing is, this is not the first time this has happened. This has been going on for not four years, but 12 years. It's just that the Ukrainians have been intentionally targeting civilians, killing civilians. You know, it's something that happens regularly.

[00:01:01]You know, it's usually not on this scale. This is that's the only thing that's unusual about it. But like every day, every other day, you know, somebody like just in a in a civilian car or um you know, even an ambulance, even school buses get struck by FPV drones. They know what they're looking at and they strike them and it happens again and again. You just never hear anything from the Europeans. And I um you know again it's just like they they invert reality.

[00:01:26]Now you know again I you know I think a reasonable well-informed person can can be opposed to this where I think that the Russians should not have launched the SMO. I think that's that's a reasonable position. You know something that reasonable people can disagree about. But there I think it has to be admitted that the conduct of the war on the two sides has been just drastically different. you know, especially when it comes to the air war, the the Russians, you know, again, the scale of their attacks is so much higher, so much larger than the than um the scale of the, you know, the Ukrainian drone attacks on Russia. Um but the casualty counts, it's it's clear that the Russians are going out of their way, you know, to avoid civilians. And to give you an example of this, it was just uh what nearly two weeks ago that they launched the biggest one ever, which was over 1,500 drones and missiles.

[00:02:22]The Ukrainians reported one fatality.

[00:02:26]One fatality, which is a tragedy, but it just shows that there's just no way that could happen if you weren't going out of your way to try to avoid civilian casualties with that with that many drones and missiles. And then on the Ukrainian side though, we see clearly what are intentional attacks again and again and again. Um, but you would just, you know, if you're listening to Western media, you would just hear nothing but >> yeah, you know, reports of Russian barbarities and um, >> and you know, it's just every it's the reality is inverted. I mean, just to extraordinary degree and I think it's something that people have trouble really accepting. And you think, well, you know, maybe they're exaggerating, whatever, but the reality is really inverted. No, I've heard like the New York Times describe these air attacks by the Russians as horrific. And I say, you know, it's just like, you would never use that to describe the New York Times would never use that to describe anything that the Israelis do, which truly are horrific. And um you know again yeah you know air attacks are scary and whatever but it's just it's so clear that the again the Russians are not have it's I mean the the civilian casualty counts you know uh casualties from these attacks are incredibly low.

[00:03:40]We're talking about thousands and thousands and tens of thousands you know of drones and missiles over the course of this. and the the number of civilians that have actually been killed are just just really minimal, which is again not to say that that isn't terrible and you can be angry about it and all that, but it's just it's clear that like in the annals of modern warfare, I don't know if a country has ever been this careful as the Russians have been.

[00:04:04]>> Yeah, that uh that's going to trigger some people just hearing that, you know, they just can't believe it.

[00:04:10]>> I think it has to be said because it's just true. And you know again you you because people just don't get these reports but these things happen you know almost every day. I used to you know you can find them you know these videos or these reports that they just come out you know day after it's a it's a it's just a daily occurrence you know in um the Donbas but also in the the bordering regions like Belgar and um Kursk and these things just happen all the time. you know, the people in these villages have lived it and they've lived with it like in the case of the Dawnbos, you know, for 12 years.

[00:04:48]We're talking about, you know, thousands and thousands of deaths of civilians.

[00:04:53]Yeah. Yeah. Say, but the the media, that's true. Just the people just h have this association just with Russia being barbaric um and the plucky, brave Ukrainians. Um and so it's just really hard to invert that. And something always gets brought up every single time, you know, we mention these things.

[00:05:09]People always like talk about the Bua massacre. Um I is that do we know exactly what happened there? Is that brought up?

[00:05:18]>> We don't know what exactly what happened, but there is a there is a a good amount of evidence that first of all that many of these um the deaths were actually carried out by the ultraists. They were killing people that cooperated with the Russian occupiers.

[00:05:35]And um there are there are big holes in the story, you know, that it's announced that, you know, the Russians went in there and they killed all these people um and and then later we saw pictures of people lying in the dead in the streets, but this was days later. The thing is that if you actually look at the timeline after the Russians withdrew and again they withdrew because they thought that they were going to get the Minsk, you know, that rather the the uh Istanbul agreement finalized. That was the hope. That was the the the the gesture, the goodwill gesture that the Russians did because they want they were um they had already had the agreement initialed and then they got encouragement like from Mcronone, you know, yeah, do something to show that you're really serious. They withdrew and BHO was one of the places they withdrew from. Um anyway, after they withdrew, the mayor announced that, oh, the Russians are out of here. No mention of any massacre or anything. That came out with days later and you see these pictures of bodies in the street and they say, well, wait a second. you these bodies have been lying in the street for 5 days. You know, it just there there are big holes in it. Now, I think there's some possibility that the Russians that there were Russian soldiers that killed some civilians that were, you know, had taken up arms against them and and and that's really what it grew out of. But then we have um strong evidence that that it was the ultra nationalists that moved in. you know, not only the fact that these people there were people that were killed after the Russians left, but we had statements, threats from the ultra nationalists saying, "We're coming to get you guys who you collaborators."

[00:07:08]Um, so that's, you know, you really you get one side of a story, you know, it's just been painted as this this Russian atrocity, you know, but do some digging, you know, just like I think the same thing with scripple um poisonings, you know, actually go to Craig Murray or somebody else who did a lot of research and you'll just see the whole thing starts to fall apart. You know, maybe there's a grain of truth to it. Again, I think maybe there were some civilians that were killed, you know, civilians that had taken up arms against the Russians and um but but the overall the story just does not hold together. It just doesn't >> can't shouldn't it be just be easy just to see who these people were that were killed and were they pro-Russian or were they pro- Ukraine? You know, like that's a piece of cake, >> right? Well, you know, again, that that information may be out there or it may be suppressed. you know, there's obviously an effort to to maintain a certain story. You know, also in a larger sense, okay, I'm sure there's no question it happens in every single war that war crimes are committed. There are bad people, you know, that are in uniform or people that are maybe not so particularly bad, but this break, you know, kind of under the stress of war and seeing their comrades killed and they do things. It does happen. It's happened in every war on both sides in every war. And it, you know, certainly happened in World War II. American soldiers committed atrocities and and you know, it wasn't just German soldiers, but the Allied soldiers did, too. It just happens in war. Um, now I I find it just very unlikely that it happened. I mean, I think like in the West, you almost have this idea that Russians are just full of hatred for Ukrainians, and it just doesn't exist.

[00:08:44]It really doesn't. It's just not there.

[00:08:47]They they they look at them as brothers and they're very similar. you know, probably these people in BHA were almost all Russian speaking. Um, they don't see him as some, you know, as as subhuman foreigners. You only get that kind of language again from the ultra nationalists, not the majority of Ukrainians, but the ultra nationalists who have grown in influence who do talk about Russians as subhumans and are clearly deliberately killing Russians, you know, day after day, week after week.

[00:09:19]It's messy war. The the information war is such a tough war to um to engage in, you know, because we're we're up against a lot with the mainstream media, you know, it's really >> the amount of Yeah. Some breakthroughs like for example on, you know, when it comes to Palestine, it's just I think it's the horror there are so great that it just couldn't and we have social media and then so you you know, we do see some breakthroughs. It's it's it's harder in the case of Russia. I mean, you just have to go, you know, and go look at at at other sources and spend some time and consider it. The thing is like it's the the propaganda has been so extensive. It's gone on for so long, you know, for the years preceding it that people just get this feeling, they just know that the Russians are really bad.

[00:10:05]And because I I noticed like I'll read articles in the New York Times about Russia. Well, first of all, you notice that they'll they work really hard to find some sort of dark corner in Russian society. and you can find them and and I think overall like those dark corners are getting smaller and smaller you know ever since the 1990s but they do exist and you you know you highlight them you maybe exaggerate them but then even you know when you're talking about just normal Russian activity somehow there's always given a spin that somehow this is sinister and you just say well wait a second why is this sinister you know this is just normal activities but it's like they always play the scary m music for it and I think it just affects people they just get the sense oh those sinister terri able Russians, they're not really, you have to stop and really be disciplined and say, "Wait a second, this doesn't quite make sense. I need to look at some alternative sources." And they're out there. You know, if you you you'll find them, you know, there's >> um and then you have to spend some time with them. I think it's just like that that that notion of the terrible evil Russians is just so deeply ingrained that it's it it takes a real like sort of like um what do you call that? sort of like uh like for somebody who's been brainwashed in the cult, you know, to to decompress to deprogram them.

[00:11:18]>> Deprogram them, right? It's almost like that because it just like as you ingest it over all that time that you just start to you think you know things that you don't think. Oh, the Russians definitely poison script. Oh, yeah. They assassinated the Voli, you know, etc., etc., etc. And you think you know it as a fact. And well, maybe you don't know it as a fact. You know, that's just part of this effort to demonize the Russians.

[00:11:40]you know, it's gone on for a long time now. You know, you can I think you can make the mistake of idealizing. They're always again, there are some dark corners in Russian society, but again, I see them getting smaller and smaller.

[00:11:52]Like I think one thing I know, a phenomena that really did bother me was um the Vagner group under um Pregosian >> and that, you know, there were some things there that really were kind of ugly and scary. Um, I know he's made out to be a hero by some people. Um, but I I didn't see it and I I found that whole phenomena rather disturbing. But that's gone. There are still some what you would call like sort of ultra nationalist units on the Russian side, but they're tiny compared to what you find on the Ukrainian side. And they are also just like constantly under pressure and their their role is being reduced.

[00:12:31]It was like the Russians sort of use them. you say, "Okay, we have these crazies. We'll put them here." And but they work to control them and and actually reduce the scope of their influence. Um and that's what you see happening. And the opposite thing is happening in you know in Ukraine where these ultra nationalists including you know Russian refugees the real you know people that u describe themselves as Nazis and you know celebrate like the mosque shooter um trant you know that's one of their great heroes you know those people have gone to Ukraine where they are welcomed and not just you know just put in a small unit but you know become uh increasingly a part of the power structure. there's just the the difference between the two is night and day if you really spend time to look at it.

[00:13:20]>> Yeah, we we've really been conditioned.

[00:13:22]Um but I think a lot of people like you said are being deprogrammed are are waking up. I mean I was just thinking about you know that horror rat's headline that said the most consequential Republican primary for Israel is happening in Kentucky. you know, and it's really the newspaper saying that and I and just thinking that so for so many people that read it, it doesn't really trigger so much of a response immediately. But then when you stop and think about like this is insane like but how would you react if you read it if it said the most consequ con consequential Republican primary for Russia is happening in Kentucky? That would raise alarm bells immediately. You would just start to be like, "Oh my god, this is nuts." And but I think people are finally waking up and we should just start to question everything, you know, everything we've been told. We've been we've been conditioned. We're we're sheeple. That's the way they look at us.

[00:14:08]We're just sheep and they just they're having fun. Let's feed you some more stupid stories, stupid narratives, and then you guys fight amongst yourselves and we'll lord over. I just don't >> I just don't I I don't know if we want to get into it. We've already gone over an hour. Okay. I'm going to >> I'll save this for for Monday. I have just some questions about the elite and then I want you to shed some light on their their insane psychology. Like what is going on? Why do they do the things they do? Um, okay. But let's end it there.

[00:14:36]>> Okay.

[00:14:36]>> Sound good? All right.

[00:14:38]>> Have a good rest of your day and a great weekend.

[00:14:40]>> Okay. You, too.

[00:14:41]>> All right. Bye-bye. Bye.