In the Jackson bribery case involving former officials including Chokawake Antaramumba, Pines County DA Jody Owens, and former council member Aaron Banks, the plea deadline was set for Friday, May 29th. After this deadline, defendants could still plead guilty but without a government recommendation, meaning the judge would have more discretion in sentencing. The trial was scheduled to begin July 13th, with key dates including June 8th for jury questionnaire discussions and June 9th for candidate lists to strike.
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Excuse me. Let's see here. Uh, Breacher, good morning, brother. Uh, congratulations on your big fight Saturday night. Uh, that was awesome. It was even cooler finding out that you were my friend Claire's son. You just never know, man. You absolutely never know who you're going to who you're going to meet or you know or who you know who you already know that belongs to somebody you've known forever.
[laughter] Uh my daughter and your mom ended up working together at some point. So anyway, small world. Small world. So that was cool. Let's see here. Good morning, Jeremy. Good morning to my boy Justin.
[sighs] And let's see, my boy Justin aka Stickard, my favorite bartender from Martins's Livingston. Y'all swing by Martins's Livingston. Today it's hump day. Y'all know what that means? That means it's Meatloaf Wednesday at either Martin's location downtown Jackson or Livingston out there. And if you sit at the bar, you can see my boy Justin. He's our moderator on the YouTube live chat.
Uh does that does the Lord's work over there for free and um just a good dude, man. Supports everything we do. Even donates uh super chats to the show. And I mean, I take care of him when I get the opportunity as well. But he takes care he takes better care of me than I get to take care of him. And uh man, what a cool deal that is to have people that care enough about what you do to do stuff like that to extend their time.
Shout out to little Nikki as well, another one of our moderators there.
Much love, much appreciated. You know, we have a Facebook group, too. You can find it by just searching Clay Edwards show any We don't have a Clay Edward Show Facebook page. We have a Clay Edward Show Facebook group. And I got a few moderators there. I forget who all it is off top of my head. There's six or seven of them that volunteered. So, I made them all mods. Look, that is a cool opportunity for you guys to go post and have conversations with each other. And it's a lot of like-minded people, a lot of people who disagree. That's fine, too. We're never going to get better at anything we do if we only talk to people we agree with. Uh Shawn Jüker, for example, is somebody that I don't agree with everything Shawn says. Shawn doesn't agree with everything I say. But you know, when you talk to people you disagree with, one of two things happens, right?
You're either going to A change your mind or B be more resolute in your initial belief.
What can be wrong about either one of those? You end up right either way, you know? So I anyway, I don't know.
Point being, get over there. Feel free to start conversations and uh don't you know you can have conversations and disagree with people and I forgot to hit live on uh I forgot to hit live on Instagram. Anyway, you go over there to start conversations and meet new people and you don't have to be rude to do it. I know me telling people you don't have to be rude. I'm only rude when people are rude to me first. If y'all see me popping off on somebody in the comment section, it's because they were rude first and they deserved for me to be rude to them. So, we're going to have Shawn on the show in the next segment coming up at 7:20 and we're going to talk about the latest updates on the Jackson [sighs] Mayoral, not mayoral, I'm sorry, the Jackson corruption stuff. And we're we're we're approaching the date, the cut off date for any plea deals. Will we see a plea? I mean, I wonder what the poly market Sean, if you're listening this morning, see if you can find what the poly market odds are, if there are any, on if any of these guys are going to take a plea deal or not. But anyway, so yesterday I wrote a long, I guess I'll call it an essay or an op-ed, and I should have titled it Dear Black People, but I didn't because it's not pointed towards all black people. And of course, that's always the crux of this conversation, you know, about race and and whatnot, is people think if you talk about one set of black people that you must be talking about them all.
And that's just never been true. And I've at Nauseium tried to be very clear about that. But sadly amongst a lot of the black demographic, there's this I don't know if it's the I'm my brother's keeper stuff or if it's the people who have never lived in Jackson or around the chaos of Jackson or you know around the true just ghetto areas and just that's be around the hood rats [snorts] and you know and the the folks with five six vows in their names and just all of that the to have really lived around the fatherless like in a place like Jackson and and just all the carnage and chaos and Democrat death culture that comes with that. But I I feel like there's I've had a word for it. It's like a a a ghetto inferiority complex for black folks who have grown up away from that.
But because of hip-hop culture or just the culture, they they they feel like they have to defend those folks and their actions.
And that's why me and a lot of the black folks from Ranking County get sideways with each other because they feel like if they, you know, they punk clay or if they were to get at me that that would somehow get them street cred with the Jackson folks. And I'm not making this up. Again, I tell the story about the time that a sitting board of alderman member and his uh his posi followed me and stalked me around and my family around wanting to jump me at the Brandon Miggraph parade a couple years ago.
that wasn't a figment of my imagination, you know, like I don't know these people. Didn't even know we had a black alderman in Brandon until that night.
And these are people who clearly only know me from the internet. And it's just like they want to jump on me because like I say, it's it's got to be like this ghetto inferiority complex. Like we'll show them Jackson blacks who the hardest of the hard are.
It don't make any sense. You got a good life out here. Why you want to get sucked into that ghetto nonsense?
So, it's obvious I have a complicated relationship with African-Americans, with a large group of African-Americans based on the fact that I grew up in Jackson.
My family owned businesses that catered to blacks in Jackson for 40 plus years on Lynch Street. Then I owned a nightclub for nearly 10 years. And eight of those years we cater to an 99% black audience. I was always a minority in my friend sets. Spent a lot of effort, time, energy uh with majority black friends trying to erase racism.
So anyway, I wrote an op edge yesterday and I spent about three hours writing this thing. And I'll be the first to tell you I absolutely do run things through AI to clean up the the grammar and to kind of fix the run-on sentences sometimes and you know just tighten it up, make it easier for you guys to read.
So, I'm going to read a piece that I wrote real quick, and this is on my Facebook page at SaveJXn.
And the title of it is, and it was inspired by the George Floyd stuff, and the six-y year anniversary of George Floyd's drug overdose, suicide, suicide by overdose, and it's called From Equals to Enemies: The Betrayal that Followed George Floyd by Klay Edwards. So, I'm going to read this to y'all real quick.
It says, 'I don't care what anyone says.
And before I get started, I'm doing this because I want y'all to understand why I feel the way I feel and why I do the things I do and why I've taken the path that I've chosen as I feel like I'm not the only person that feels this way.
So, anyway, it's titled Equals to Enemies.
I don't care what anyone says. The scars left on America by the George Floyd riots, the BLM movement, and everything that followed will never fully heal. Too much water has passed under the bridge.
Too many accusations were hurled at us by the other side over something that had zero to do with us. Accusations that cannot simply be forgiven or forgotten.
The damage was then compounded by the multiple assassination attempts on Donald Trump and the successful assassination of Charlie Kirk. Like so many others who grew up treating black people as true equals, I watched lifelong friendship strained or shattered as we were suddenly treated as personally responsible for George Floyd's death. As if we had killed him ourselves. As if I'm sorry, it says as if we as if we had killed him ourselves.
It was as if every genuine relationship we had built over the years no longer mattered. No apology can undo that kind of betrayal.
This isn't about hate, racism, or anything like that. This is about betrayal, pure and simple. They felt betrayed because myself and so many other strong willed individuals refused to bend the knee, change our profile pictures to a black square in solidarity or apologize for something we played no role in just to make them feel better on the inside.
I feel betrayed because I spent my entire life forging real relationships and having tough conversations about the racial history of this country. this state and this city, Jackson, Mississippi, that I never avoided or ran from. I'm the white guy whose family ran businesses for over 40 years on Lynch Street in the roughest part of Jackson that catered to the black community. We were always grateful and willing to give back. I myself along with my father later ran a nightclub that did the same thing for nearly a decade in downtown Jackson. Always appreciative of the black community choosing to spend their money with us.
All those friendships built, all that goodwill stockpiled proved worthless in the [snorts] eyes of the culture.
The second we didn't jump up and go along with something they demanded, like we had so many times before. I guess I should have seen the cracks in the foundation when Trump came down that escalator to announce his 2016 presidential campaign and they demanded anyone unfriend them if they supported that racist Donald Trump. I suppose all the effort Trump put into nurturing his relationships with the black community meant nothing the moment he decided to run as a Republican, huh? All the NAACP awards, all the money donated, all the charities, all of that. Nothing.
Look, I could go on for hours.
But there's one more unforgivable chapter in this betrayal.
It's their stance on CO. The long consequences of those positions will be felt for generations. Small businesses shuttered forever. Family members forced to die alone. School closures that rob children of critical years. Mask mandates and policies driven more by fear than facts. Elections have consequences. And the leaders they champion championed inflicted wounds we may not fully understand for another 10 to 15 years.
We're already seeing the developmental setbacks in young kids who wore masks for years during formative stages of their lives. All because fear of a virus replaced common sense and resilience.
Instead of focusing on their personal health and strength, too many of those chose to panic.
And that same mindset mindset helped deliver four years of the Biden Harris regime with all the damage that followed. As a proud flag waving member of Gen X, my generation did all it could to erase racism.
Just to have 40 plus years of blood, sweat, and tears nuked over Donald Trump and then George Floyd, both men none of us have ever met nor ever will. This divide runs deeper than politics or race. It's a fundamental breakdown of trust that may never be repaired.
And that, my friends, sums up Democrat death culture and why I feel the way I do and why I will no longer Well, this it ain't like I'm just starting this today. It's why something inside me broke back in about 2021.
And I just said, I I I won't forgive you all for what you've done.
I never will. Now, you're welcome to come and apologize and we can have a conversation.
You can come back and say, "I was scared. I believed Mbs MSNBC MSNBC. I believed CNN.
I believed what they said. I was scared.
Clay, I apologize." And we [snorts] can have a conversation.
But I can damn sure promise you one thing. I will not be apologizing for the 40 years of my life that I spent bending over backwards to not see color to treat my black friends equally to to actually never even use the damn phrase my black friends. You were just my friends. And I was damn proud of that. I didn't grow up in a house of racist parents and the things I've heard about my parents and my family. Anytime you get in y'all's feelings, anytime somebody backs maybe in a corner, very disgusting. Yeah, but your parents were racist. You don't even know my parents. Y'all just assume everybody that's over 40 and white is somehow racist.
That's your problem. You just make assumptions. And you know what they say when you make an assumption? You make an ass out of you and me. I don't know how it makes an ass out of you and [clears throat] me. It don't make anything out of me. makes an ass out of you.
So that's how I feel about it. And again, I ain't talking about everybody, but I am talking about a large damn group of you that line up and do anything and everything that benefits the Democrat party and you do nothing that benefits America.
nothing.
You take credit for everything good and zero responsibility for anything bad. And you damn sure take zero accountability and we're done. There's just a large portion of us that are absolutely done.
And white liberals, I'm talking about y'all too in this. Except I never tried being y'all's friend. Just all the bad stuff, I blame that on y'all, too.
I never tried to nurture my relationship and friendships with the white liberal, the outside agitator.
Anyway, let's take a break. When we come back, we're going to have Sean Jükeran, attorney at law, uh, discussing well, something right along these very lines.
these idiot politicians that they elected, that they championed, and that did tons of damage to this city during COVID, that show that closed small businesses, forced them right out of town, while their buddies at the strip clubs and illegal nightclubs got to stay open so they could hang out at them. Man, I could go on and on for hours. Let's take a break. We'll be right back. This is the Kledwood Show. 1039 WY.
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>> Yeah, I'm here. Can you hear me?
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sound good?
>> Uh, pretty good, man. Pretty good.
>> Pretty good. All right, let's see here.
Um, do I have any uh I have any graphics for us here to make this a little I I put a lot of graphics together last night. Uh, let's uh let's pull this one up. I like this one here. Stand by.
>> There we go. Um, >> are we going from suits to to orange jumpsuits? Sean, will there be a plea deal? Uh, tell people what's going on first and foremost. And uh before you do that real quick, y'all can check out Sean on wlbt.com. He did an interview with those guys about this very topic.
Uh it's up on their homepage if you scroll down enough. At least it was last night. So you can check you can uh go to wlbt.com and search Sean Jükan. Uh it spells exactly like it sounds, believe it or not. Even though they spell Shawn wrong and got his last name right.
>> Amazing.
>> I know. That may be the first time I've ever seen that.
>> Yeah, they've done it before. I always kind of I kind of mess with them when they do it. I'm like, can you guys How do you guys get this messed up?
[laughter] It's just the last name that usually gets people.
>> Yeah, I expect that.
>> But Sean, tell the folks what's going on. So, the the deadline is approaching for these guys to do their snitching and plea deals and all that stuff. I mean, explain to people.
>> Sure. So, like there is a uh in the in the pre-trial order, there's a plea deadline of this Friday, May 29th, where they have to enter plea. Now, they can plead guilty after the deadline, but >> hold that thought for one second. I apologize. We're talking about the the free the land three. We're talking about Chakaway Antaramumba, Pines County DA Jod Owens, and former council member Aaron Banks and the Jackson bribery scandal. For those that may be new here, I apologize. Sean, go ahead.
>> Sure. And they uh they can plead guilty after Friday, but it would be without a what's called a government recommendation. Like a plea deal to make it simple, like you hear that on TV, like a plea deal. The state's going to make a recommendation. Here, it's the federal government. And so, they would have to plead. In state court, they call it pleading open. In federal court, they would have to plead. It'd be kind of like the mercy on the court. just the judge decides. Now, the judge decides in federal court anyway, but the government will recommend something like, let's say they'd recommend the lower half of what kind of time they're looking at to simplify it. So, they're not going to have a government recommendation past this Friday is kind of what it boils down to.
>> I got you. And um what would be your recommendation?
>> I mean, I mean, if I was all of them, I would have pled already. I think the but that's just based on what we've seen in the media. I don't have access to the files. I'd assume it's far worse than what we're than what we're seeing. And the reason I what I base that on is that the main defenses have been the district attorneys is entrament. So he's not denying he did it. He's just saying they, you know, coerced me into doing it. And then the mayor's is a little bit different. He's saying it wasn't an official act. And and so I mean, so they're not there's no denial. No one's saying I didn't do this. There's no like I didn't do it. It wasn't me. It's not like Shaggy or anything like that. It wasn't me. All that kind of stuff.
They're all saying they did it. They're just saying it wasn't legal.
>> So, I was just looking at some of the bribery uh the Jackson bribery trial deadlines here. I got the WLBT story pulled up. So, May 29th is the deadline to plead guilty. June 8th, parties meet to discuss the jury questionnaire. June 9th, parties to provide list of candidates to strike. And July 13th, we got an official start date here. The trial starts. Oh, man. Gonna be a gonna be a sizzling summer here on WYB, isn't it? In the city of Jackson overall.
>> It's gonna be wild. I guess that's what about six weeks away. Six, seven weeks away is what we're looking at.
>> And now we're two years. You remember Clay? Because I think we were on your show when the raid of the DA's office happened if you remember that. Like I think we were live on air when that happened.
>> Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And then um in Memorial, Was it Memorial Day weekend when when all of this went completely side when the story broke or when we we maybe leaked the story?
>> Yeah. when we well when we heard about the uh the yacht party in Miami which ended up being true by the way so that ended up all being true and and uh verified. So yeah that was actually two years ago >> man. So Matt Stephy and I know you're familiar with Matt. Um he says here got a quote from Matt says a professor at Mississippi College of Law doesn't expect them to do says he does not expect them to do so saying it would prohibit them again from running or serving in public office if they pled.
So he says, "I'm hesitant to declare anybody's career over. We love a comeback story." He said, >> "And certainly if there is an acquitt, I would not be immediately convinced that all three of these defendants are through with pursuing elected office."
Well, Jody has still got what uh when would he when would he be up? 27.
>> 27. He's up for re-election in 2027.
>> Yeah. So So he's got to he's got a lot on his plate. He's got to try to defeat this and at some point start campaigning >> at some point if he were able to defeat this successfully. And I read Professor Stephy's comment. I mean, he's not wrong that this would obviously you fail any under state law they could not hold office. But I mean, you got to Clay, you got to kind of weigh that of okay, am I worried about my political career or I'm worried about my behind? I mean, like which way do you I mean, which way do you go with that? And if your defense is, I did it, but here's why. Which essentially is what this boils down to, I man, that's a that's a heck of a gamble. That's that's a heck of a gamble that you're that you're playing with the jury. Because I think at the end of the day, what a jury does is they say, "Yeah, that's cool, but you could have said no." And I and I think that most people that resonates with most people, and that's on the government side. And another thing is you got to think about it this way. They're trying to say they're going to get all 12 to say not guilty. I think that's basically impossible. their best hope is they have one juror hang it up. So this thing is actually going to be retrieded or they're going to plead guilty or something's going to happen to it if there's in the result of a mistrial or hung jury. So I don't think I mean I think if they're looking at this like a possible not guilty I think that's basically impossible. I'd really be shocked if that's something you see because you're going to have such a wide swath of jurors from 18 different counties across central Mississippi and to get all 12 of them you know whoever's on that jury, good luck. And I think they're getting I think they're getting a false sense of hope based on the Debiosi result as well.
>> Absolutely. Which is if they looked at it is not factually sim similar whatsoever. Like there's no no similarity. They're just they were both in federal court.
>> Yeah. And I and I've tried to make the example of you know there's like being in sales you understand the difference in tangible versus non-tangible. You know insurance is something that's non-tangible or intangible, however you want to properly say that. It's not something you could touch, hold, and feel. And tangible is something like my phone. I can I can touch whole field. I can drive my car. I can wear my clothes.
It's easier to sell tangible stuff.
>> Well, the the these two trials are kind of similar, right? What they did was there's tangible evidence that they're guilty of what they're accused of and they've admitted it. Now, I'm not sure about Aaron, but Shockwe and Jod have haven't denied that they did this thing.
And there's legitimate evidence where the Debiosi uh trial was more of them trying to paint a picture of guilt and explain why even though he may not have known it was illegal, it was illegal or vice versa. They were having to explain and paint an untangible image. Does that make sense?
>> Yeah. Comparison where you've got a you got clear guilt here. you have something you can touch, smell, look, see the money, the checks, the photos, and their admissions. Where the devi was more of a you're having to create this and convince people from scratch that this was a crime. And uh I think that's way more I think that's way more difficult and way more difficult to get 12 jurors to agree on, which clearly that's what happened across the board.
>> Yeah. And also I think in Devio one was bribed as far as I can tell. There was no bribery involved in that. And the what they were saying the government was let just to simplify it. They were saying that Debiosi didn't perform the work and then he put on evidence that he actually did. Now the value of that work is maybe what's in dispute. Like was it worth the amount of money that he got paid? Well, in probably most people's eyes, no. But does that make it illegal?
And I said that months before the, you know, the verdict came in. I don't think it did. Just because you pay me a lot of money to do a job that may not be worth that amount, talk about uh certain athletes we could think about that don't perform on contracts, right? Doesn't make it illegal. So, I think just it's just not it's a lot different than organizing a bribery scheme and paying off elected officials to you vote a certain way. I I just don't see how the the facts are any way similar in this case. I mean, because they never bri like Debiosi never bribed John Davis at all to give him the contracts. I mean, maybe that would have been similar if that had occurred, but that didn't happen. I don't think that happen kickbacks or something like that. Sean, let's take a let's take a break real quick and come back. We're live this morning. We got Sean York on the Mazda Jackson live stream talking Jackson bribery trial and more. Y'all don't go anywhere. We'll be right back here on the Edward Show. 1039 WY.
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>> Welcome back in to the Klay Edwards Show. 1039 WAB. This segment brought to you by our friends over there at El Prio El Patrio Mexican Grill and Cantina right there in Crossgates Brandon or Dogwood in Flowwood. The special of the day, I just posted the picture on my Facebook page, is chicken fajitas. So you can go check out that picture. They look m sizzling sizzling good. They're available on the lunch menu for a discounted price and lunch portion size.
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Located right there in front of Crossgates on Highway 80 and Brandon, right next to Lost Pizza and Bob's Frozen Custard, and of course, right there in front of Dick Sporting Goods in Flowwood right there at Dogwood. All right, let's see here. We got Sean Jükan here on the Mazda of Jackson live stream in stunning HD from his uh home studio there in Bell Haven. Uh Sean, what else is going on, man?
>> What regarding what locally? I don't know. That's about all all I've seen so far.
>> I just mean in general what you got going on.
>> Oh man, just just working, you know, opening up the new office and uh getting that all together, which is a you know, which is a chore in itself. Like I think I told you when you I didn't realize how much buying an office sign cost.
I was the city and the the city of Jackson's permitting process which has taken six weeks so far just to put a sign in the yard of my office. I mean I should just got one of them realtor signs. We put that down.
>> Yeah. They don't make anything easy in Jackson. I've often said when you're in business in Jackson, they treat you like an adversary. It's like you're in business against Jackson. I don't I don't know why they take it so personal when somebody wants to open a business there, but they make it they take it personal like and they make it as difficult as possible to get open and be a functioning business. It just makes no sense to me. And I've got plenty of experience in that category or in that field, whatever you want to call it, trying to open businesses there and put up signs and do stuff. And it's nothing is easy there at all from permitting to anything.
>> It's not. And you know that whole street I'm on, Congress is across um is behind the old two sisters. You know what I'm talking about right there. And uh there's, you know, that's a it's historically been a bunch of lawyers in those old homes. And there still are some, but it's like you'd think you'd want to encourage people to come down and want to open their businesses there.
And it's not uh it's not as easy as you think just for something as simple as a sign. I can't imagine something more complicated than that. And I know you have to sometimes when you install things, check the utility lines in the ground, but I mean that's when you call the utility company to do that. City didn't even do that.
>> Correct. Hey, if anybody has a question for Sean here, you can text the LS Autolex text line 769-2411944.
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We're talking about the Jackson bribery trial coming up starting July 13th or of course you if you're watching on the Mazda Jackson live stream, you can just drop a comment there in the live stream.
Bourbon Diplomacy says, or it's more of a prediction, should I say. It says just before the trial starts, there will be a deal. they are foolish if they go into that courtroom.
>> Yeah. I think um well the the court has has put a deadline on a deal. Now the way like look in my experience things kind of get away of of happening where because judges can do whatever they want. I mean they have the power to do whatever they want. They can say okay I'll accept the deal. And a lot of times that happens. So that's not that's not impossible to happen. But I from what I've seen it seems like especially the district attorney is pretty obstinate about that he's not pleading guilty.
he's that he's just that he was set up and he is sticking by he's riding that horse. That's from all the sources I've got that that's what's happening. Um now logic would tell you when you're on video shoving cash in a bag, you know, on a yacht in Miami that the best thing to do for you to do is to plead guilty, but he apparently doesn't think so. He thinks he's gonna he's going to rest on arrest on the law, which is kind of one of these things, Clay. I was talking about this on my show last weekend. If lawyers sometimes think too much like lawyers, which is the problem, they don't think like regular people think.
Regular people be like, "Man, you putting that cash in the bag?"
[laughter] I mean, and then you went to Tootsies. I mean, that's what the regular juror from Scott County is going to think. And you got to kind of think like they think and they're going to be like, "You just put that cash in the bag and you were on the yacht in Miami and you're getting paid off by these I mean, it just it looks really, really bad."
And I don't know how you get around that. Just as as honest as I can put it.
>> Well, you know, and here's the thing. We haven't we have not seen the photos from their strip from their trip to the strip club yet either.
>> Oh god.
>> Let's not forget they gave them $5,000 taxpayer 5,000 taxpayer dollars to go to the strip club in Miami while they were there. So they and you know they didn't do that without without uh one of these guys tagging along with them and getting photos.
>> Oh yeah. And by the way, you know, we we always complain about government spending money recklessly. This is one where I'm okay with it. Like if we get to see the photos worth my tax dollars.
I would have paid for it myself.
>> Seen this. I just want to see these guys because I mean I've never Now I've been to many strip clubs. I'm sure you have as well but I've never had $5,000 at a strip club in my life. So I don't know what you get for that at this at the strip club.
>> Yeah. I mean I want to see the uncensored version of these photos by the way because I'm guessing the quality of stripper in Miami far exceeds the quality of stripper we have here in Jackson. I'm just going out on a limb there. Yeah, it's a uh that's the infamous actually strip club in in Miami where all the uh all the athletes go.
It's very it's kind of like remember scores in New York was like the big thing to do back in the 20 years ago.
That's where this place is. So, it's very it's super famous. It's not just like your run-of-the-mill strip club and so it's expensive and um I mean I don't know maybe $5,000 didn't only get you a couple table dances or whatever, but it's a that's a significant sum to take for one night outing at the at the strip club. I would I would think at least in Jackson, you could probably buy the strip club for 5,000 bucks.
>> Well, yeah. You probably can't even get a get bottle service in a in a in a VIP booth for five grand in Miami with that kind of money.
>> But, I mean, in Jackson, we're thinking Jackson money here. And I'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess they also spent some of their own money in this place. I bet you they spent more than five grand while instead strip club.
>> That's right. I mean, did they like, you know, a thousand of it went to Making It Rain or something like that at least. I would think there's And there's probably if there's a photo of Chokeway making it rain, that'll be that's worth the $5,000. Don't they know? Don't they know who we are? We about to make Jackson. We gonna leave skid marks on this town.
>> The funniest thing to me about this too is that, you know, as well as you and I know Jackson and that know remember when the convention center was they were I think they were voting on to pass that Harvey was mayor and they built it finally and then they were talking about this hotel for the last what 20 years am I right around there? Around 20 years close. I mean it it wasn't that in demand of a project obviously considering there hasn't been a hotel there for 20 years. So I always think to myself like was the bribery necessary?
You I know there was another bid competing you know what I'm saying but that would if you know the history if you know Jackson enough you know that the other bid probably would have fell through anyway. So you really never even need to bribe anybody. You could have got this project without all of that in my mind at least.
>> Well this was a fake project though so actually you weren't getting anything.
No, what I'm saying is like because there were supposed to be another competing bid.
>> Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
>> And I mean, you know how things work in Jackson, like that person, I mean, look, Fair Street, have you seen that built up? No, that's not happened. So, I mean, I think that, you know, your odds are that if you really want something, you want to you want to I mean, somebody just bought the Pinnacle building for 10 cents like a few months ago. I mean, you can get what you want in Jackson relatively cheaply, I think, without um without having to bribe people.
>> Uh, quick quick question here. We got a we got a hard out here coming up. But Bourbon Diplomacy just said, "Hey, Sean, talk about the evidence used to get an indictment and then the amount of evidence that the government will have in court." That feels like that's going to that's a long answer, but if you can do a short version of it.
>> Sure. I mean, indictment there's not you don't have your own lawyer in there if you're the defendant. And it's just you don't need when you when you take a case to a jury, it has to be beyond a reasonable doubt. And the indictment standard is much lower than that. It's they always say you can indict a ham sandwich. You better believe it. An indictment doesn't really mean a whole lot. The it's the standard before the jury, which is beyond a reasonable doubt, which is much more difficult.
>> All right, one more question here. It says, "So, what is the This Eric says, "So, what is the real sentencing for these guys? What are they actually looking at as far as jail time, fines, probation? Like, how long are they really looking in jail if they go to trial?"
>> Yeah, the um so there's a they're charged with several different code sections. And federal court is a lot more complicated than state court where they'll say like armed robbery is x number of years. There is classifications based on your criminal history and base level. I don't know the exact you have there's a whole if you go online there's a federal sentencing calculator. That's how complicated this gets. I think it they're looking at quite a substantial amount of time. I'm what I've been shooting around the leg community. Everybody's thinking 10 to 15 years if they get convicted at trial.
Something like something around that >> ballpark. All right. Look, Sean, we got a heart out here, man. I know you got something you got to do. I appreciate you jumping on with us this morning. If y'all need any legal counseling as far as criminal law goes, Sean Urkan, you shoot him a text or shoot him a his information is at onetextlaw.com.
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>> Welcome back in to the Clay Edwards show. We got about a minute here before our next break. I'm going to stay with our live radio audience through the break. So, if you want to chat, you got any questions for me and whatnot, drop them in the live stream. Hit up the LS Autolex text line 769-2411 944. I'm going read some of those texts that we've been getting as well. We got a whole another hour to go. The next hour is going to be open forum here on the Clay Edwards Show. So, whatever you guys want to talk about, I want to talk about it. So, hit me up. Drop some topic suggestions in the comments on the live stream, the Mazda Jackson live stream, or shoot them to me on the text line, the Ellis Autolex text line, 769241944.
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We'll be right back in 7 minutes on the Clay Edwards Show. 1039 WAB It is so weird talking without the headphones on and hearing myself. It's like I feel like am I saying everything right?
Let's uh just got some of y'all's text messages here. I got to fix that real quick. There we go. All right, let's see. I'm gonna start back up at the top a little bit because um I'm pretty sure y'all were maybe had some great things to say about my my phenomenal monologue.
my essay.
My essay.
Uh Eric says, "Man, we had a great time at the concert last night. Thanks for the tickets." Yeah, look, I got some really cool photos from some of our listeners. We gave away six tickets in two different sections last night. Four of them were side by side by side by side. Then the other four were actually side by side by side by side, too, cuz uh two of y'all got to sit by my favorite Uber driver and his wife, Jason ODM. Uh, I hooked Jason up with a pair of tickets for doing a favor for me last a couple weeks ago. Brought me some smokes from Big Apple and uh, so we had four sets of or four, yeah, four pair of Clay Show listeners um, all sitting together in two different sections. That was really cool, man. I appreciate the photos and hopefully y'all made friends with some likeminded individuals. So, the show looked great, man. I was just wore out, man. I was wore slap out from Memorial Day and working that fight the other night. I'm old, man.
I'm old. Just just being places for a long time wear me out. Being off work makes me tired. But yeah, man. You're You're welcome. I'm glad you'all had a good time, brother. Let's see here. Uh Gary says, "Good morning, my brother Clay." Jeremy says, "Skin folks are in fact actually kin folks, no matter what they say." You know, there's a lot to that, man. Uh, if you're just tuning in, I did an essay on my Facebook page last night about my complicated relationship with the black community. And it is not me saying that I'm racist or anything like that. I know that's how it's going to be portrayed because I said it's just frankly I'm having I have a hard time uh letting go of what happened and what they did post George Floyd, post Donald Trump announcing his presidency. uh just the reaction, the petty reaction they had to all that uh over the last 10 years has just nuked race relations in this country. And I took it really really [ __ ] personal. You know, people I've been friends with my whole life telling me, "If you voting for that racist Donald Trump, you can just unfriend me." Are we talking about on social media or we talking about real life? Because I'mma do both. your request is my demand is my command, you know. So, uh, some people some folks were saying happened when Reagan was president, you You know, I just said, man, they just flip they lost their minds and they let they let 40 years of friendship, and I'm not talking about 40 years with any one person, but I just mean over time, basically 40 45 years of being friends with people go up in smoke over something that we have no control over.
I mean, I can make an honest to God uh sideby-side comparison here of how do us electing Donald Trump made black lives substantially better and how them electing Joe Biden, Chuck Leumba, and any other Democrat politician made their lives and our lives substantially worse. And it's not even comparable.
I mean, they they This is going to sound racist and I understand that. But I do not mean it to sound racist. I mean it to sound factual.
They there's a reason why we got to redraw these lines because Democrat minorities just can't seem to get their [ __ ] together when it comes to voting. I I don't know what it is, but they get in that voting booth and they say, "What is the what what is the worst option available for all parties involved?"
Benny Thompson sounds great. I'd love living in squalor.
What's this other guy going to do? This Republican, is he going to make me get a job?
Nope. I will continue living in squalor and get my $800 a month from the government. People are fed up, man.
Um, let's see here. Rebel Ray, by the way, I don't want to slide by your good morning. Rebel Ray says, "Good morning, Clay and everyone in the comments." Uh, two cups, three room, four in one, two up, three room. Anyway, te tell me what your name says so I can say it right. It says, "Well, school is robbing children of critical years anyway. If anything, CO got them out of school and enabled them to enjoy something about life a bit better. Now, there are some plus sides. There are some pluses that came up that came out of all this, but that was purely by accident, right?
uh like parents like Moms for Liberty, our very own Lindseay Beckham and so many others got to see what was happening in these classrooms where they started doing this virtual learning and it created an uprising and it woke up a bunch of angry moms. So, there was definitely a plus side to it, but that wasn't by design. That was because of parents pushing back. So, uh great point there. Great point. Uh Gary Boone says, "Gen X I am." Gen X I am. Uh the guy whose name I can't quite figure out says, "As a white man, you can't say you erased racism if your heritage was never victimized by racism." Oh, I can say whatever. I can say whatever. Um I absolutely can.
He also said, "Why don't you try demanding reparations for George Floyd and BLM?"
We ain't giving anybody reparations.
They got their reparations.
I'm getting mine now when I'm every day when I monetize my social media platform on their pain and suffering.
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All right, it's hour two this morning. a bit of a open forum here this morning in hour two. Now, I did a bunch of show prep. We could talk about some little this, a little bit of that. Shout out to Ken Paxton. Uh he did a little bit of draining the swamp last night over there in Texas. Got old Cronin Crony Cronin out of there. That's a big old win.
That's a big old MAGA win. You know, you don't unseat too many um too many incumbent conservatives, do you? You just don't, especially in a primary.
So, big big win in Texas. Yeah. Well, Clay, you know, he cheated on his wife.
I don't give a damn. I I don't. At this point, I am willing to set all that aside, any morality.
I don't care what you do in your home.
Y'all don't care about a bunch of the LGBTQ rainbow supremacists y'all send up there. What they're doing in their home ain't holy.
But why do you why do you care about what Paxton does in his home or outside of his home? I mean, sin is sin.
Sin is sin.
Yeah. That's why you don't rarely if ever or as it would be rarely if ever or rarely if never. How do you what would be the right way to say that? I don't judge when it comes to what you do in your home. I don't care if you're gay. I don't care if you're cheating on your wife or spouse.
I don't care if you're in a relationship and having premarital sex with your girlfriend and you're not married or boyfriend.
I just don't care. It's the only thing I really care about is when you come out in public and you're shoving that down everybody's in everybody's face. If you're it and look, this is not just about the LGBTQ agenda. I don't want to see two gay guys making out in the corner or at the bar. I don't want to see a straight couple making out at the bar or in the corner.
I don't want to see two transes making out at the bar. You know what's that's funny. You actually hold on hard stop. Speaking of two transes, have you ever seen two of them together?
I don't mean like hanging out. Of course they hang out together in a mental ward, but like have you ever seen like one is there like a trans guy and a trans woman that date?
Because they basically just have a guy and a girl dating. I have seen that online before, don't get me wrong, but like in person, you ever seen like a trans guy and a trans woman dating? Cuz like it's just like the ultimate role reversal. It's still a guy and a girl dating, but the girl's pretending to be the guy and the guy's pretending to be the girl. We're all going to hell, aren't we? With the the end is near. The fact we can even have this conversation.
The end is nigh. The end is nigh. But anyway, I don't want to see anybody.
I don't like I don't like public public displays of affection. I don't even like holding hands with my girlfriends out in public. And I said plural because I mean any of them over the years, you know, like now or or prior. I I'm not a big public display of affection guy. Don't get me wrong. You know, I've had too many drinks before and, you know, done some kissing sitting at the bar. I'll be the first to admit it. But it was gross and I shouldn't have done it.
I apologize to anybody who had to see it. But uh anyway, I digress. I digress.
Uh shout out to Ken Paxton. Well, that took a dark turn, didn't it? Yeah. Big big win over in Texas last night, man.
I'd like to see some of that energy in Mississippi.
Unseat some of these these rhinos around here with some primary wins. you need need to start primarying these folks a little bit more. But it's going to take some folks with some money. And for goodness sake, if you're going to hire a political team to get behind you, don't hire a bunch of bumbling idiots.
I mean, spend the money with good folks who know what they're doing.
I ain't going to name any names, good or bad, but do your research. Talk to folks. If you need if you're thinking about running for office and you need some you need a a legitimate team, you need a campaign manager, holler at me and I will get you in touch with some people who can recommend the right people, people who are sitting in office right now, currently elected officials on statewide and local levels who can direct who can send you in the right direction. I'm not going to refer anybody, but I can refer you to some people who can.
Uh, don't go get rookked. Don't go get rookked. Let's see here. Man, I was uh I I did some research the other day about reparations, about why reparations would be a bad thing.
It would absolutely destroy America. And uh I can see if I can find it here.
Uh well, let me search. Let's see here.
Reparations.
I was trying to say, you know, it's like if we if we ever would just give them what they wanted, I'll find it during the next break here because I had a really good essay put together about why reparations would be bad for America and even be even worse for the black community.
Anyway, I don't want to I [clears throat] don't want to type it here in live time. I'll have to find it.
But uh let's go back to the live stream and read some more of y'all's comments here.
Let's do that. Man, y'all are on fire this morning. We got a good audience on the live stream.
Uh Breacher says, "Was that your girl with you Saturday? She shook my hand when I came to see if you were walking out with me to the ring. Confused me at the moment, but I didn't think much of it." Yes. Yes, that was my girlfriend with me at the fight Saturday night.
That was definitely my girlfriend at the fight the other night. Uh let's see here. David says, "Welffare is reparations." And I agree with that 100%. We have been given reparations.
Y'all have got your reparations.
And I I half jokingly say all the time.
And my reparations for having to put up with what y'all did to Jackson is my social media platforms being monetized and me being able to profit off your pain and suffering and your Democrat death culture.
And I make no qualms about it. I have zero zero sympathy or empathy or or regrets or doubts or anything about the joy it gives me knowing that every time I do a story, post a picture, make a video, give out an FAFO award, and make just a little bit of money talking about y'all. That that is my reparations. It feels good. Clay Edwards got reparations before y'all. How you like that? How you like that? Like where have our Where are our reparations for what y'all done to the capital city and other great American cities that you've taken over and voted into absolute third world hell holes?
I mean, you've all done this through politicians and minority set aides and all of that nonsense. What y'all done to Jackson and other cities, it should be studied.
It really should. And the audacity you have to claim you invented everything when the motherland is still a bunch of mud huts and fighting tribes.
Surely all the astronauts, engineers, and scientists didn't get sent over here on slave ships. Surely some smart people got left behind.
Stop it.
Let's see here. Lucas says, "Type to call someone a snowflake but think PDA is unacceptable."
Type to call someone a snowflake. I don't make any sense. [snorts] I don't think I I don't think I'm understanding you. Maybe you're responding to somebody and I don't see.
Yeah. Anybody wants to call in this morning, the phone line is 601879002.
601879002.
Uh, this person Zack Scott says, "A vote for Trump is a vote to protect Pedos, but mods can't allow that."
How is voting for Trump, See, this is what blows my mind. A vote for Trump, they're talking about the Epstein list.
The entire list has been released.
The entire files, whatever you want to call it, has been released.
And we told all of you that it was never going to be enough for you. This thing had been so built up. I mean, I was part I was one of the people who sat on here for four years, five years screaming about the Epstein list. We want the list. Release the list. This country is being ran by PDF files.
Then we started getting it and I was like, we're never gonna get this all we want out of this. This is never gonna live up to the hype.
I mean, just anything short of Bill Clinton, Obama, you know, I'm thinking about people from the conservative side that we expected to see on there. You know, Bill Gates.
Oh, that's right. All of them were on there as we told you they would be. And y'all are just so mad that Donald Trump isn't legitimately on there in anything other than lies and crazy people calling into a tech a phone line, a tip line, and saying that Trump's on there.
Wouldn't nobody just make that up, Clay?
Wouldn't nobody just make that up? You mean to tell me the same people who ain't tried to kill this man five times since 2020?
Shoot. five times since 2024.
Those people wouldn't pick up an 800 number and make a false accusation against Trump.
You really believe that? That a public tip line that anybody on the internet or anybody with a phone could call?
You don't think the same people that have been trying to kill this man again no less than five times since 2024, since the Pennsylvania field, You don't think they would call a tip line and tell a lie?
But y'all are so mad that Trump ain't on there or that it didn't live up to this expectation that you expected that now it's a vote for Trump is a vote to protect Pedos.
And I was told on good authority that Marjorie Taylor Green and Thomas Massie were going to read all the names on the on the floor in the in the in the capital under the rotunda with congressional immunity so they couldn't be sued.
That's what I was told that the And I'm gonna say this with a big with a big allegedly the alleged Epstein victims that they've been trottting out there in front of everybody because I don't think that they were victims.
One of them said, "I didn't even know I'd been human traffic till 2019."
What do you mean you didn't know?
Was you just horning for free? and you found out somebody was making some money on your horn, so therefore you're like, "Oh, they were making money for me being here."
So, I must have been trafficked.
Look, I for I I have no doubt that Epstein was a filthy, filthy pedophile.
And I'm not clearing Epstein of anything here.
I just believe that there's a big big SCOP going on with this thing that's intended to try to make Trump weak or try to create dissension within MAGA and it's working because a lot of y'all are absolute idiots.
And if you think for one second that Trump was on that list in anything that they could remotely prove and they wouldn't have already arrested him, you're a effing idiot.
You had Joe the Joe Biden, Camala Harris, a compromised FBI, CIA.
They raided Mara Lago over classified files that Donald Trump declassified and took with him.
They went through Melania's panty drawer, sniffing her panties and no telling what else. probably put some in the pocket and later on with them.
Hell, probably took them back to Hunter Biting so he could do it. Hell, maybe Camala wanted to try them on. I don't know. Hell, maybe Joe wanted to put them on. He puts the lotion on the skin.
The Joe puts the lo Joe from Scranton.
He puts the lotion on the skin. [snorts] You don't think those people would have exposed that Trump was on this list if he was on this list? If there was any verifiable evidence, I've said this a million times over the years.
If there if there had been, let's just say for example, that there was photos or video that existed of this and their favorite son, the the favorite Democrat son, Obama, black Jesus, I mean, other than George Floyd, the other black Jesus, Obama, if releasing this information, there had been no way to protect Obama from being drugged down in it, they would have sunk Punk Obama to the bottom of the ocean to have gotten rid of Trump and said, "Sorry, not sorry. You have to die for our sins."
Trump is nowhere near that list in any legitimate fashion.
But Clay, there's there's pictures of him and Epstein together.
Rich people running similar circles.
Tell me you've never been around wealthy people without telling me you've never been around wealthy and powerful people.
I learned it really quick the minute I got into this business and started going to some of these political hobnobs.
These people end up at the same places.
They know a lot of the same people. They have a lot of the same bankers, financeers, whatever you want to call it.
Anyway, I don't want I hate talking about Epstein because it's just a lowinformation conversation. There's a group of fake Republicans panickings.
They're the same people. Ironically, it's not funny. The same people who are stuck on this Epstein crap and Trump's a PDF file are the same people who are raising hell about Israel.
They're the same ones ate up with Israel derangement syndrome. Epstein derangement syndrome, Israel derangement syndrome apparently calls Trump derangement syndrome.
And it's the same group of people, these conservative podcasters, influencers, and NPC bots.
They're going to drive this country off a cliff. what's left of the damn cliff after the Democrats and their capadres have already destroyed it.
Idiots. Let's take a break. We'll be right back. This is the CLE Edward Show 1039 WAB.
All right, let's read some more of your comments here.
Uh, Rebel Ray says, "If we can get Benny out, we need to proclaim a state holiday."
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
I don't know who Nikki was talking to, but he said, "Bitch, call in." I'm not listening to name calling.
I'm just trying I'm trying to make sense of some of these text here, these these comments cuz I would like to I would like to peel that onion back a little bit more. Like I'm trying to figure out what is Lucas saying here. He says, "Then don't [ __ ] watch, bro." The [ __ ] Who Who are y'all talking to there?
Let's see here.
Rebel Ray says, uh, snap EBT section 8.
It's all reparations. It is 100%. That's one thing we even getting your damn reparations.
Y'all bear with me one second. I'm going to try to find this uh this thing I had about reparations.
I got it in my in my gro here.
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All right. I found my reparations stuff.
We're going to discuss this whole reparations conversation when we come back.
what would reparations actually would reparations actually help this country, help black folks or not? And um I think y'all are going to be surprised at what AI suggests because I agree with it for once. Let's see here.
I'm reading some of y'all's comments while we're back.
Oh god, not one of these people. There have been no assassination attempts on President Trump. They have all been staged events grow up. That has got to be the dumbest [ __ ] comment I've ever read.
We are all now dumber for having to for having to see that.
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All right, so I was going to do this the other day and I I ended up missing. It was when that storm came through or something or another happened. Power was out here, something. Anyway, so I I kind of punted this topic down the road some.
This was about reparations and what would the effects of reparations be on this country. I use Grock to help put this together. I just like to always kind of give you guys that information. So, you are always welcome to ask the question the same way I did. And uh here is how I asked the question.
What would the most likely end result be if we as Americans gave black people reparations so so they would just shut the f up and stop bitching and begging about it for it? I mean, real plain and simple. We're tired of hearing it. What would the effects be if we succumb and gave you reparations?
And Grock says this, most likely end result, it wouldn't shut them up and it would only make things worse overall.
[snorts] Chat GPT wouldn't tell you that, would it? So, here's what it says. the short-term effects huge fiscal hit serious proposals such as uh William Darity and Kristen Mullen estimate 10 to 14 trillion or 300 to800,000 per eligible black American which is roughly 40 million people. This is paid via taxes, debt, inflation or printing money. Historical precedents for massive wealth transfers show temporary consumption spikes but no sustained cultural or behavioral closure gaps.
Remember that behavioral closure gap and think just last week uh one of those goon squad victims got arrested again as a felon with a firearm. He got arrested back in December and charged with distribution of narcotics and all sorts of other stuff. He got given a lump sum of money, but he's still a thug.
Get what I'm saying? All it does is shine all money does is shine a light on who you are and allows you to be more of that. But I digress. Let's continue. So that's the huge fiscal hit that it would cause. Uh here's the inflation and economic drag. Uh large one-time or spread out payments would boost demand without matching supply or productivity gains. Models of similar programs uh such as state level predict higher taxes, reduced growth, job losses, and out migration. So basically what it's saying is people would move and quit working. So, who's going to work at our fast food restaurants if we do this? That may be a good thing.
A lot of them close. Maybe some of y'all won't be so fat. Anyway, long-term grievance. I'm sorry. He says longterm uh grievances don't end. This is the core reality. No major historical example shows cash reparations permanently ending complaints or demands. Paint me shocked. You mean the people who are never going to be satisfied won't be satisfied?
Uh, it says activist incentives reward activist incentives reward perpetual victimhood. Post 1960s great society transfers trillions in means tested aid affirmative action set aides uh coincided with persistent or worsening gaps in family structure. Black single motherhood is up 70% plus crime rates says the FBI data shows black males 15 to 24 have homicide offending rates 20 to 50 times higher than white males in similar brackets and wealth despite trillion spent. So we hit that yesterday, right? And that's ironic that it picked that exact age gap. the 15 to 24 year old black males uh o over out of every h 100red thousand 207 of them are murderers according to FBI statistics. That is insane.
All right, so it says polls show 77% of black Americans support reparations, but only 18 to 30% of whites support it. I would like to know who these idiots are.
Anyway, says paying it would fuel backlash. quote, "We now pay we paid now what says while recipients and activists shift to this ain't enough money." Uh, and continuing to complain about interest or ongoing systemic or new issues. Uh, reparations for mass incarceration, climate, and uh, redlinining. It's given a bunch of examples here and I don't know how to properly read that for y'all. So, it's why it sounds a little little clunky, but basically just saying that uh, you're a bunch of idiots. and you'll never be happy. Uh continuing says a human pattern uh groups with grievances such as Native Americans uh with their treaties, casinos, Japanese invest uh Japanese intermittent payments, uh Holocaust survivors rarely declare mission accomplish or disband success breeds further claims.
Anyway, basically saying that you're never going to be happy. And we have evidence that says when we do this, you're still never happy. your grievances still exist.
So it says group outcome gaps, reparations address past injustice but poorly fix present distributions. Says uh cognitive IQ averages, impulse control and time preference differences explain much of persistent gaps even after SCES controls. See adoption studies, regression analysis. It says wealth gaps are minus 800,000 household on average, but transfers don't rewrite two parent households, education values, or crime patterns that drive outcomes.
Basically saying that it doesn't matter how much money we give you, it still ain't going to fix that you ain't got but one parent in the house and it's usually the mom and that your crime patterns and low IQs ain't going to change. Then it says a smallcale analoges, eg black farmer payouts, COVID stimulus, show mixed uptake on wealth building, home ownership, business formation versus consumption. Pretty much you're going to go buy a bunch of crap that you don't need versus invest into long-term businesses and wealth building opportunities. And uh here's the interesting part here where it says a political and social fallout.
It says polarization would intensify 70% plus overall opposition of this thing.
non-black groups such as whites, Asians, Hispanics would resent funding it while facing their own issues and it could accelerate quote tribal politics. Oh yeah. Yeah. Y'all want to talk about uh bringing the clan back and all of this stuff? I I absolutely believe that if you gave what black folks 300 800,000 each on everybody else's dime, you would absolutely bring back hate groups. 100% Garon Tit. Hell, those people over at the SPLC are going to be mad they didn't get their cut.
Uh, continuing on says, uh, most, it says there's a moral hazard. Signals that loud grievance pay encourages similar demands from other groups. Oh, you can bet your ass that if you give them $300, $800,000 each, Klay Edward's going to want his as well. Absolutely. I ain't working no mo if y'all do that.
No, sir. Mm-m. Uh, bottom line, the shut the f up goal fails the hardest.
Basically just saying that my initial question was if we give them reparations, will they shut the f up about it? And the bottom line says no, they will not shut the f up about it.
Says grievance culture is self- sustaining. reparations would be a one-time wealth transfer with massive cost, limited mobility gains for the group average, and guaranteed new demands. Saying that, quote, "Reparations weren't enough. Real progress tracks behavior, culture, two parents, education, low crime more than transfers. Saying that if you want real progress for the black community or any other group that's wanting reparations or grievances satisfied, you need to start by fixing your problems that you currently have. like just because you're poor and in poverty, not having kids with multiple men you have no intentions on being with or marrying, and of course getting a job, and not having low impulse control and resulting to shooting people as soon as you have a public disagreement with somebody or private. Let's see here. Says, "Real progress experience." So, so it says uh as seen in immigrant groups closing gaps without ancestral payouts, history and data say this trades short-term uh quiet for long-term wilder division. So, look, I know that sounded kind of clunky trying to read all that. It didn't really lay it out in a way that suited best for me rereading it or me reading it to y'all, but you get the point. All the data out there suggests that if we were to give you reparations or give them reparations, it would just make everything a hundred times worse.
They would blow it immediately for the most part. Not everybody, but a lot of people would blow it immediately and then demand more. And then they would blow the fact that they went out and blew it on strippers, Dodge Chargers, Gucci purses, gold, all of that. They would blame and then they're broke. They would blame that on systemic stupidity that we didn't train them on what to do with their money.
Let's take a break. We'll be right back.
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What do you think about all this? What do you think the first thing somebody would buy if they got $800,000 in reparations? What's the first thing you would buy if you got 800k of free money?
It's like winning the lottery, right?
Except everybody would win and it would make the price of everything go up. So, actually, nobody would win. It would cause hyperinflation and it would end up, I don't know, making gas go up to about $100 a gallon.
We'll be right back. Don't go nowhere.
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>> Welcome back in to the Clay Edwards Show. 1039 WYB. Breaking rules when necessary. That's one of [clears throat] those breaking rules conversations there. That's one of those conversations where most people will have it, you know, with their with their black friends. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I wouldn't have a problem with y'all getting reparations. I wouldn't have a problem with it. You know, they they they'll say that and I'm like, I got a problem with it. I got a big problem with it. Ain't cool with it. Going to raise hell about You think January 6 was a problem for y'all?
You let these bastards approve reparations, you gonna see a problem like you ain't never seen in this country.
Uh we will there will be what's the word I'm looking for second second amendment accessories taken to the next insurrection unlike the first one [snorts] if uh if they approve reparations in this country.
Absolutely.
Absolutely. The there will be I don't want to I don't want to speculate. We'll just say that. I'll let y'all speculate just just how bad it would get and how quick it would get there if these clowns we send to Washington DC voted to do that to give these folks reparations.
I mean, hell, we should have done it on all the money that they gave the illegals in this country. That's why I find it awfully screwed up. The same people and I got a text from somebody. I don't even know who it is that said, "Well, you're against reparations."
Well, are you against the January 6th slush fund to pay those people money?
Absolutely not. We need to give them more. We need to give them more money because also you're talking about a maybe a thousand people, couple thousand people at the most, not 40 million people. A big difference financially, massive difference financially. The same people who have a problem with this January 6 slush fund.
I don't even think it should be called a slush fund. By the way, you're making people's lives back whole that you intentionally destroyed uh because you politically persecuted them. Meanwhile, Black Lives Matter burned American cities, destroyed lives, small businesses, murdered people, etc. And not a single one of them went to jail.
But a couple, you know, a couple thousand Trump supporters, MAGA patriots go to express their displeasure.
And then of course Antifa disguises themselves as MAGA, which I know it killed them not to put the rainbow dildo hats on to go do this, but they dressed up as patriots, the CIA, the FBI, and they went and they started all that rioting and then it was monkey see monkey do after that. And if you don't think that's what happened, you're an idiot. You're a blazing idiot.
But I digress.
The same people who are against that J6 uh make people right fund are the same ones they think we should give every illegal that snuck across the border 40 acres a mule, a car, a cell phone, and an endless stream of income.
While we leave our veterans out homeless in the streets.
while they lock up political patriots out of revenge because they dared to upset Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden.
They did that to teach conservatives a lesson to show us that we better not ever ever think about protesting politically again. And I'm going to tell you, it worked. I ain't taking my butt nowhere near a political rally protest. Y'all can have that crap.
It don't work anyway.
They ain't They ain't They ain't arresting Clay. You ain't pinging my cell phone and doing all that crap and blaming me on anything.
But yeah, that worked.
That worked. Conservatives aren't allowed to protest.
They call it racist. They call us super spreaders, insurrectionist.
But anyway, this texture said, "So you're against that slush fund?
So we're not going to make these people's lives right now." So it's a big difference in in paying somebody back for what the country and for what the federal government intentionally destroyed. And also, we're not talking about their ancestors.
These are the actual first person, the people that were persecuted, the people that were locked up. And we're not talking about just J6ers either. We're talking about Trump's attorneys.
We're talking about people inside Trump's administration. We're talking about journalists.
A lot of people were persecuted by the Biden administration for being Trump associates, for having the audacity to show up to the Save the Steel rally or Block the Steel, whatever it was called, the J6 rally.
We're not talking about people's ancestors that were slaves.
So you're talking about giving a bunch of people today money that ain't owed any they ain't owed a damn thing. They didn't they were never a slave. I mean they're a slave now to the Democrat plantation but they ain't slaves.
And I've said this before and I'll say it again and I know it's controversial, but you know what? I think a lot of black folks out there need to be way more thankful and appreciative of the hell that their ancestors went through because they still have a much better life here in America today because of all that because they got plucked out of the jungle, put on a ship and sent over here to be slaves. And while they paid a mighty hefty price, and I'm thankful for the work they did and for everything they did, their ancestors should be as well because it's a way better life over here than over there living in a damn mud hut.
I know y'all don't like hearing that. I know y'all think that Africa would be some great metropolis, flying cars, teleportation, medical accomplishments, space v space adventures, you know, because everybody was just a astronaut, an engineer, a scientist, a great inventor.
But I don't think it was. I I I don't I'm a pattern recognition expert and the p pattern suggests that that's not what it would be over there because that's not what it is now.
You should be grateful that you get to be in this country just like I'm grateful for my ancestors coming over here and putting in the efforts to make this country great. My ancestors came over here. I'm a direct descendant of one of the original crew that came over here on the Nenta, the Penta, and the Santa Maria and the Mayflower.
Original original an OG OG bloodline.
I am your tribal chief.
Not a single slave owner in my family.
Not a single one.
Can you Democrats say the same thing?
You white liberals. I know you can't. I know you can't. Let's take our last break. Come back. Land the plane. This is the Clay Edward Show. We'll be right back here on 1039 WY.
I know it's a bitter pill to swallow, but your reparations are you get to stay in this country.
You're in a great place. You've got it better here than you would anywhere else in the world.
Anywhere.
Anywhere else in the world, you got it better here. How do I know that? Well, because when you look at the border and everybody's coming across the border, ain't a single white person one of them.
They're all coming from countries led by black and brown people.
Black and brown people are fleeing countries controlled by black and brown people.
I don't see a single white person trying to break into America.
I don't see a single white person trying to break into any of these countries that they're leaving.
I mean, if Wakanda was such a great place, why is everybody trying to leave it?
I mean, I'm tired of sticking our head in the sand and acting like we're not allowed to say these things.
These are this is just facts.
Now, also says, "Those foundational black Americans, they call them FBA idiots, think they're going to send us back. I laugh. I laugh and fart in their general direction."
Absolutely. That's great. That's great.
Let's see. I'm just reading some of y'all's comments here.
You know, my man, my timeline's a little out of whack. Y'all get what I'm saying, man.
My folks came over here. They were OG.
My bloodline traces back to the Mayflower. I just found that out last year. One of my family members did a did a 23 andme thing or ancestry.com thing and I was like, "Hell yeah, that makes sense. That makes sense. I'm an OG.
I'm an OG." All right, man. Y'all seem to be having a lot of conversations with each other. I'm not going to get into reading all the comments. I appreciate everybody. Um, we're going to close the chapter on talking about race a little bit for the next few weeks. I think we've we've got everything off my chest that I wanted to get off my chest. I think that we've made our point and anything else adding to it is just uh it's just D. It's just celebrating after the touchdown. So, we're going to get back to some different topics on this show, but I wanted to kind of close the book on this particular topic for a while.
Welcome back in to the Clay Edward show 1039 WAB. I was just telling folks online that look that's a tough conversation to have and we're going to close that that topic for a little while because I think that discussing it past this point is, you know, it's kind of like doing a touchdown dance after you've scored the touchdown, which I'm not a big fan of.
I punted on them today. We made our point.
Anything else is just we're just repeating ourselves. So, we're going to get back to hitting more topic driven subjects for the show. More more news driven subjects for this show and uh take it a little bit different direction. [clears throat] But, uh that don't mean we're we're going to quit talking about these things. Don't make no make no mistake. When necessary, we will discuss these these complicated topics. But, you know, I'm kind of done with just making my point about this. I think that the anniversary of George Floyd's u drug induced suicide and the last couple days is enough. We we've made our point. So, we're going to shift gears, as I like to say, and get back to discussing what's going on in the world. Get back to talking about Donald Trump. And we'll be covering, of course, the the uh Jackson corruption trial, bribery trial, come come July.
And we'll get back to uh going after the rainbow supremacy and all of the things that we enjoy doing around here. But I definitely wanted to spend some time the last couple of days um explaining to the people in the back of the class why we're mad. So, I'll see y'all tomorrow.
Be blessed. Peace.
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