American Christian Surprised By Rational Questions Posed By A Muslim! Muhammed Ali

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[00:00:00]Uh, I just want to know like the differences between Islam and Christianity cuz I feel like there's a lot of divide. In my opinion, I don't think there's much of a difference between our beliefs.

[00:00:11]>> I think there's a big difference though.

[00:00:13]I I mean, you're saying you don't think there's mostly a difference, but there is there is a big difference. I mean, there are similarities. There are a lot of similarities. There are also differences. I mean, uh, it depends what you believe in because I speak to every Christian and every Christian has their own faith, their own belief, their own ideology, right? So, so the question is how do you see Jesus? This is where the first divide comes into the picture, right? How do you see Jesus? Who is Jesus to you? Is he someone sent by God or is he God himself?

[00:00:41]>> So for us Protestants, we would say he is the manifestation of God himself. And I think that's where the divide with Muslims come in. They think he's just a prophet.

[00:00:50]>> To me, my perspective, I actually think he is the manifestation of the Abrahamic God. No, it's not it's not that we think he is just a prophet or just a messenger. We believe Jesus is a messenger. We believe he's a messiah. We believe in his second coming. We believe in his virgin birth. We believe what he said about himself. The difference is you guys believe in that which he didn't claim about himself. You said Jesus was a manifestation of God himself. You believe right? Can you show me where Jesus says that about himself?

[00:01:18]>> Okay. So I could bring many passages from the >> before you do a passage where he says I'm the manifestation of God or I'm God incarnate or I came as God in human form. Any wording you like but saying the same thing.

[00:01:35]>> Can you give me one verse?

[00:01:36]>> Okay.

[00:01:36]>> Saying the point I was mentioning basically that he's a manifestation of God or he he came as as God in him form or any of that.

[00:01:43]>> So I believe in John or maybe it's a very common verse. He's he's referencing that I am.

[00:01:52]Okay. He's referencing.

[00:01:56]Okay. Jesus was very well read in the Old Testament during the time.

[00:02:00]>> So what the Old Testament does?

[00:02:02]>> Well, before you do, before you finish, uh you're about to tell me your understanding of something, right? I'm not asking for that. I'm asking for what Jesus says. So what you can do is to quote for me what he says himself.

[00:02:15]Because the thing is he was walking around, right? If he was God incarnate and he came to die for people's sins, he wanted people to know that because of course he's coming for their salvation, right? He's not going to come and speak in Chinese uh code language, right? And then nobody's going to understand anything and then he's going to go away and then he's going to blame the people for not believing in him. So can you show me or tell me and I'm going to give you the time. Can you show me or tell me where does he say like you said what you believe about him? He's a manifestation of God or he's God incarnate or any of that. Yeah, it doesn't have to be I'm a manifestation of God. He can be just I'm God in human form or I come as God incarnate or any of these wordings, right? Doesn't have to be word for word.

[00:02:58]But the the idea that I'm telling you, where is he saying that?

[00:03:00]>> So obviously I don't have like the exact verses, but like I'm not that >> Yeah, you can use internet, you know.

[00:03:06]I'm more than happy for you to >> to encyclopedia the entire internet, but I'm fine the verse. So do you do you believe in the New Testament or the old like >> I I don't when you say believe that's what do you mean by that right? Uh I mean they exist as books but I don't believe they're reliable historically reliable or theologically reliable. So they contain truth and falsehood but I I will accept you showing me the justification of your belief. Right? So I'm asking you now to justify your own belief from your own book. I mean I don't have to believe it. Right? But you're showing me I believe that because of this. Oh, so you believe in the your book is the Quran and my book is the Old and the New Testament.

[00:03:45]>> Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Our our book is the Quran, but we believe Jesus had a revelation from God and Moses had a revelation from God. Like the Tawra, original Tawra and the gospel that was revealed to Jesus, we say it's not found today in their original forms. What you have has been changed by humans.

[00:04:01]>> Changed.

[00:04:01]>> Yeah, that's the claim we say. Yeah. So, we say the original teachings, we believe in them and they are in line with what Islam teaches. There's no difference there. But we're saying what you have in your hand now is changed.

[00:04:11]Okay. So the reason the reason you told me that we don't believe about Jesus, we just believe that he's a messenger or prophet or whatever. I told you we believe what he said about himself. I can show you where he says the Messiah, right? Or where he says he's a a messenger or where he says he's a prophet or all of these things are in the book and you know that very well, right? But can you show me what you claim that we don't believe >> in my book that he is a man? Okay.

[00:04:34]>> Yeah. Do you get do you get my point now? Right. Yeah. Yeah. So you're saying I'm saying I believe what he says about himself.

[00:04:39]>> So where did he say what you claim he said?

[00:04:42]>> Obviously it's going to be the New Testament.

[00:04:45]>> Sure.

[00:04:49]>> Okay. Yeah. Well, I I quoted John, right? That that's where he's up.

[00:04:53]>> No, no, don't go to me John 11 which you're about to read.

[00:04:55]>> John 114.

[00:04:57]>> Yeah, it's the same thing. It's John 1, right? So don't read to me the word became flesh. I'm not interested in the word became flesh which you're about to read. Right.

[00:05:03]>> You're interested in him actually saying >> Exactly. Exactly. To the >> unknown anonymous author of John who is copying the uh logos formula from someone called ph of Alexandria who said in the beginning was the word the word was with god of this is this is a greek philosophical writing that was written by someone called f of Alexandria that whoever whoever wrote John which is an anonymous author copied copied right I'm not interested in what he says right he can say whatever he wants to say right and there's a difference between the synoptic gospels and John for a reason Right? So the synoptic gospels don't have any of the I am statements and why scholars will tell you these are the earliest writings closest to Jesus allegedly by his disciples which is false anyways but none of them record any of these statements right so they look at John as someone who's writing his beliefs not the statements of Jesus but either way here he doesn't even quote Jesus right this John one is John speaking is not Jesus so can you show me where even John if he's quoting Jesus right I will take it where is anybody quoting Jesus Jesus. Jesus himself saying that he's the incarnation of God with him.

[00:06:08]>> Wait, so you want me to quote the synoptic gospel, not the John?

[00:06:11]>> No, you can quote John as well, but just quote Jesus saying it. John 1 is not Jesus speaking. John 1 is not Jesus speaking. This is John speaking or whoever whoever is the author of John is >> starts by in the beginning was this.

[00:06:26]>> You know there's something called the red letter Bible. It records the statements that are attributed to Jesus.

[00:06:32]So when it says Jesus said right in the Bible Jesus said this this and that right the red letter Bible only has Jesus's statements what people claim he has said I'm asking you now what Jesus himself has said because the thing is you cannot come and say Jesus was walking around teaching people everything but he didn't tell them he was God incarnate and we had to wait until an anonymous author came hundreds of years later to tell us that he was actually God.

[00:06:58]>> Okay. Hey. No. No. But what?

[00:06:59]>> That's impossible then cuz any like via messenger like it's obviously going to be written down. Like I can't get an exact words that he said during that time.

[00:07:08]>> No. No. You don't need to give me the exact words. You can give me the quotations that you have of Jesus himself. Okay. So you have quotations of Jesus speaking. You understand? Right.

[00:07:17]So Jesus saying for example uh when it says Jesus went to Galilee and he preached the gospel or Jesus said no prophet can be dishonored in his own hometown with him. Right? This is Jesus speaking. Can you give me a statement of Jesus?

[00:07:30]>> Okay, >> this what I'm trying to Do you understand what I'm saying now? I'm telling you Jesus's words, not other people's words.

[00:07:35]>> Cuz you have Paul speaking in the Bible, Luke speaking in the Bible, John speaking, Satan speaking, everyone is speaking in the Bible. I want Jesus's words.

[00:07:43]>> Okay.

[00:07:49]>> Okay. So, obviously this this question that we're having is a deep theological question. It's been discussed.

[00:07:56]>> Is it really? I think it's so I think it's I think I think if Jesus taught what you claimed he taught, it wouldn't be a deep theological question. If you ask me where where does Jesus say he's a prophet, I be like, "Oh, go to Mark 6:4." Right? If you ask me where where is Jesus uh saying anything like I'm going to give you the reference instantly. Right? Now you on the other hand uh you have to tell me this is a deep theological okay did Jesus say it or he didn't say it.

[00:08:24]>> Okay? So >> it's a binary thing. So for the way he speaks, he speaks in the way of the Old Testament. So when he says, "I and the father are one or before Abraham was."

[00:08:35]>> Let's not jump verses. Let's not jump verses, right?

[00:08:37]>> Let's not jump from verse to verse.

[00:08:40]Neither of these statements is I am God incarnate. Do you agree?

[00:08:43]>> Well, well, that's why you had to go to John where it says the word became flesh, right? So which doesn't even say God became flesh. Even that I wouldn't grant you, but you had to go to John for that reason. So again, I'm going to ask you I'm the father of one, which I am I'm going to answer or before Abraham or whatever. I'm more than happy to answer these things. I answered them a million times. But my my point is neither of these statements are I am God incarnate.

[00:09:08]>> Okay. So you seem to talk about this. So that that would be my two verses to you would be I am the father and one.

[00:09:16]>> Okay. So if I deal with these two verses making a reference.

[00:09:19]>> No worries. No worries. No worries.

[00:09:20]What's your name?

[00:09:21]>> Uh my name is Muhammad. Nice meeting you.

[00:09:25]>> If I answered these two two verses, would you then agree that Jesus never claimed to be God incarnate?

[00:09:31]>> Well, obviously I would still disagree because I think what these verses are pointing to that >> No, no. If I answer them showing I'm saying if I answer them showing you from the Bible that they're not claiming that he is divine or anything and you would agree, you agree with the understanding I'm going to give you, right? You agree it's natural. Would you then admit and accept that he never claimed to be God incarnate? If I answer that.

[00:09:53]>> Yes, if you answer.

[00:09:54]>> Okay, perfect. Let's deal with them. Uh let's start with the with the before Abraham Mosh. Do you know where is that in the Bible?

[00:10:02]>> So he's making >> do you know where it is in the Bible?

[00:10:05]Which which gospel? Which verse?

[00:10:06]>> No, not the exact gospel.

[00:10:07]>> Okay. So it's in John 8:58. Do you know the context?

[00:10:11]>> Okay. So I think he was talking to either the Pharisees. Okay.

[00:10:16]>> And making a reference to the Old Testament.

[00:10:18]>> Yeah. But what were they saying? What was the conversation about? And I think it was about well I don't remember the during that time the time of Abraham.

[00:10:27]>> Okay.

[00:10:29]>> Yeah. So my my problem is is that Christians when they quote these verses it's like prop it's like uh brainwash brainwashing and propaganda. You only know the word. You don't know the context. You don't know. Okay. Let me tell you the context. Right? The context is Jesus having conversation with the with the the Jews, the Pharisees, whatever, right? And then he uh they're talking about Abraham and then they tell him how do you know about Abraham you're not yet 30 years old or 50 years old whatever right then he says to them so here they're accusing him like why how do you have information about Abraham this is the context right when you are still very young you didn't live at the time of Abraham so then he says before Abraham was I am right then they pick up stones to stone him and then he runs away or he leaves right okay this is the the entire context now the question is they're asking him about Abraham and then he responds how I know about Abraham because for Abraham was I am.

[00:11:23]Now can you tell me what does this mean?

[00:11:25]For Abraham was I am cuz you used it to show that he's God incarnate. So explain how did you come to the conclusion from the words before Abraham Moes I am to Jesus is God incarnate. How did you make that connection? What's what's what's the evidence you're using there?

[00:11:39]>> Okay. So obviously he's making see he says the word and him are one. So >> no what the word and one. What do you mean? Sorry.

[00:11:50]>> He is I and the word like that other verse.

[00:11:54]>> No no let's we're dealing now with the first there is two right. I'm going to go to the other one and deal with it by the way very very easily. But let's start with with number one verse right.

[00:12:03]I don't know why you going to the other one. So you agree this this one doesn't prove anything. We go to the other one.

[00:12:08]>> No no no. Okay. Okay. So let's stick on this one.

[00:12:11]>> You said before Abraham was I am.

[00:12:13]>> I am. Do you know who said who else said I am?

[00:12:17]>> Tell me.

[00:12:18]>> Yahweh God.

[00:12:19]>> Okay.

[00:12:20]>> Who the prophet >> Moses?

[00:12:22]>> Sure.

[00:12:23]>> That's another reference that you could you could also be making because he is the incarnation of the Old Testament.

[00:12:29]That's what Jesus is.

[00:12:30]>> Okay. So let me take your argument. So I am is the name of God. You're saying?

[00:12:33]>> Yes.

[00:12:34]>> Right. and and you're saying I am is the name of God because in Exodus 3:16 when Moses Oh yeah yeah I know I know I told you I know what you're about to say before you say it don't worry right so it's because uh you know God asked Moses what should I say to the Israelites your name is right >> he says I am >> and no he says I am whatever I am he says actually in Hebrew that's why he says in Hebrew word for word okay which I shall be what I shall be or I am whatever whatever I am now what does that mean that means God is asking now now Moses asking God, what should I say your name is to the people? He says, I am what I am. I am God. Basically, so when you go to the people, tell them is God. So when Moses goes back to his people, he doesn't say, "Oh children of Israel, God's name is I am." You don't find any Israeli on earth or any Jewish people on earth who will say to you, "We worship I am." And they go to the synagogue and say, "I am. Give me help."

[00:13:26]You know, I am, give me money. Nobody believes this, right? But I'm going to accept this nonsensical understanding because Christians use it because it's convenient, right? Because it helps their case. So it's it's a straw man, but I'm going to accept it. Okay? So I am is the name of God. So now they're talking to Jesus. They're like, "You know what? You you're still young.

[00:13:45]You're not 50 years old or whatever. How do you know about Abraham?" Then he's like, "Before Abraham was," then he says, "I am." I am is the name of God, right? So we're going to remove the word I am and we're going to put the word God instead of the word I am. It's the same thing. So he says to them, "Before Abraham was God."

[00:14:01]Beautiful. How does that make your case?

[00:14:04]In fact, this is a perfect understanding. I'll tell you why.

[00:14:07]Because they're asking him about Abraham. And he says to them, "Before Abraham was God, then he's telling them, if God existed before Abraham, he can tell me about Abraham." When I'm telling you about Abraham now, it's not a problem because God can reveal to you about Abraham. Does that make sense?

[00:14:21]>> I see. He thought about this.

[00:14:23]>> Of course. Of course. Of course. Of course.

[00:14:27]It's not my job. It's it's important to call people to the truth. If you want to call people to the truth, you got to you got to also put yourself in their perspective, right? So, what I do is I have listened to what people are going to say in response, right? Okay. What's your response if you want to tell me why? Oh, Jesus is God. Let's look at it.

[00:14:42]Let's investigate it. And I'm not using Islam, right? I'm using the Bible using common sense with you. So, I'm going to ask you the question. Do you see the how does that how that does not support your case and doesn't show Jesus is divine anywhere? Do you agree that this is rational? The understanding I just gave you.

[00:14:59]>> Okay. I I'll say yes.

[00:15:01]>> Okay. So, we dealt with number one and then number two.

[00:15:03]>> We go to number two. Yes. Exactly. Thank you. Uh number two.

[00:15:08]>> I the father are one. The same >> I and I and the father are one. Do you know where that is? I'm going to ask you the same question again.

[00:15:14]>> Obviously, he's constantly quoting the Old Testament.

[00:15:16]>> No, no. Do you know why are why where I and the father are one in the Bible? Do you know? Not exactly.

[00:15:22]>> Okay, let's do it. I'm going to tell you again. It's in John chapter 10 verse 30 specifically. You know the context. I'm going to ask the same question again.

[00:15:29]>> NO, I haven't read the New Testament in a while.

[00:15:32]>> No worries. So the context is the following. Jesus, it's always the Pharisees. You Jesus is walking.

[00:15:36]>> He's always confronting the >> Yeah. So Jesus walking Solomon's Porsche and the Pharisees surround them and the Jewish people around them. They say, "Are you the Messiah? Tell us plainly.

[00:15:43]Tell us clearly." Right? Then he says to them, "I told you but you do not believe." Then he starts talking about his followers. He said, "My sheep know me. Do you hear my voice?" Then he says, "No one can plug them out of my hand. No one can plug them out of my father's hand. I and the father are one." So he's not talking about being God. He's talking about >> Yeah. He's saying, "Nobody can take the believers out of my hand." But I'm not going to stop there. I'm going to add you cherries on the cake now.

[00:16:07]>> Okay. What's the cherry?

[00:16:08]>> The cherry on the cake. He denies being God in these verses. I'm going to show you how.

[00:16:12]>> Okay.

[00:16:12]>> So the the Pharisees who he insulted them all the time saying, "You're you're vipers and snakes and whatever. You don't understand, right? You're not people of understanding." And he kept insulting him for not understanding.

[00:16:23]Right? So then they pick up stones to stone him. Jesus like, "What's going on here? All I said my sheep are I'm not claiming to be God." So they pick up stones to stone him. Do you know what they say? They say to he says to them, "Why are you stoning me? I've shown you many good works from the father." He didn't say good works from me. He says good works from God. So they say, "We stone you not for the good works, but we stone you for blasphemy because you are a man claiming to be God." Which is your claim, right? Your claim about Jesus is the same claim that Pharisees have ascribed to Jesus. How does Jesus respond?

[00:16:57]>> How does he respond?

[00:16:58]>> Perfect. If he's God, what he what is he supposed to say? Supposed to clarify, what do you mean blaspheing? I don't blasphe. I am God myself. I can't blasphe being God when I am God. Right?

[00:17:09]But how does he respond? He says to them, doesn't it say in your own law, you are God's?

[00:17:16]He's quoting the Old Testament. He's quoting >> yeah he's quoting specifically Psalms 82:6 >> where God is addressing yeah Psalms 82 which all about the judges of the Jews where God repeatedly calls the judges of the Jews gods. So he he's saying you are called gods yourself in your own book and it doesn't make you god you're called gods. This is language biblical language. Angels are called gods. Moses is called god to the pharaoh. The word god is used for everyone in the bible.

[00:17:46]He's saying you yourself are called God.

[00:17:48]Then he says, "You want to stone me because I said I'm Benon. I'm the son of God." Does that sound like someone claiming to be God or someone refuting the claim that he is God?

[00:17:58]>> Yes. So he's refuting the claim. He's saying I I am I only said I'm the son of God. Now son of God, how many times is he used in the Bible? All over the place. Used for Ephraim. You used for David, the begotten son of God in Psalms 2:7. Used for Adam. Used for everyone.

[00:18:15]says in the Bible it says blessed be the peacemakers for they shall be called the sons of God right so now you said you would agree with me if I answer these two points you see I answered you from the Bible but let me add you another cherry on the cake just because I'm a nice guy right I'm going to add you another cherry the cake Jesus says in John chapter 17 verses 21 and 22 do you know what he says he speaks to the the followers disciples with him he says just as which means the same way right just as I and the father are one or the father is in me the father will be in you and we all will be one.

[00:18:48]So he's saying the same way I am with the one with the father or the same way the father is in me the father will be in you and you will be one with the father. So if I and the father one men divinity then you'll have to believe all the disciples are also God allegedly right. So you see when when Christians when they read the scriptures they don't bring other verses they don't look at the context and look I'm not a Christian here I'm no Muslim right exactly like all you have to do honestly is to read the scripture look at the verses and you will come to the conclusion that the claims you make about Jesus are not the claims he made about himself. So when you look at Jesus in the Bible, right?

[00:19:23]So now we already established that he he's not claiming to be God. The omnisient, omnipotent, this is what God is when we say God. These are the what we mean. If something doesn't have these attributes, it's not God, right? Did Jesus know everything?

[00:19:34]>> That's another really deep theological question that I don't think I can answer.

[00:19:38]>> Ask me, does Allah know everything? Ask me. Ask me.

[00:19:40]>> So for you?

[00:19:41]>> Yeah. Ask me. Ask me. Ask me the question.

[00:19:42]>> Allah know everything.

[00:19:43]>> That's a very deep. No, no, no. Yes.

[00:19:45]Allah knows everything. Allah is God. So Allah knows everything, you know. Ask me. saying he was God and I was said yes he knows everything >> you're supposed to right you ask me is Allah all powerful ask me >> is Allah all >> absolutely Allah is the all powerful he created the whole world ask me any question about God look not a single question you're going to ask me I'm going to be like that's a very deep thing look these are simple questions if you stop a baby and and you ask a kid right is God all powerful yeah God created all the world's probably nobody's going to say that's a deep theological question but the Christians have to say this or some Christians I have to say this because they are faced with this dilemma. They look at Jesus and he doesn't have all all knowledge.

[00:20:26]He doesn't have all power. Right? Jesus says no one knows the day and the hour.

[00:20:30]But look at this. He says not the angels in heaven. Not the son. Only the father.

[00:20:35]When he says only the father, he's also excluding the holy spirit. So you cannot say the holy spirit is this or that.

[00:20:40]He's excluding the holy spirit and himself of the son and the angels in heaven. Nobody knows the day and the hour. In Mark 13:32.

[00:20:48]Okay, that that was good. That was good.

[00:20:50]>> Yeah. Yeah. So, look, this is the thing.

[00:20:53]Our message is very simple as Muslims, right? So, you wanted to know where we coming from. Our message is very simple.

[00:20:58]God sends prophets and messengers. Send Jesus, send Moses, send Abraham, send Noah, he sent Prophet Muhammad. All coming with one message, which is the Shama. Here, O Israel, our Lord God is one God. It's called the Shama Israel.

[00:21:14]Here, oh Israel, our Lord God is one God. It's always been one. Worship your creator alone. Do not make images with God. Do not associate with God. This is the message of Islam which we called is absolute monotheism. So, Prophet Muhammad is just the last final messenger coming in the line of those messengers telling you the truth, bringing people back because when the Roman Empire accepted Christianity, they started adding the Trinity. They started adding the divinity of Jesus and mankind and human sacrifice and all of the stuff. It wasn't there. Uh yeah, I know divinity and the trinity is more like a Catholic thing. Well, obviously I'm coming from a Protestant, but >> yeah, but you know >> divides Catholic.

[00:21:50]>> I know. I know. But but the divinity of Jesus is a part of the trinity. You basically if you say Jesus is God, which you were saying in the beginning, then you have a trinity either way, right?

[00:21:58]But if Jesus isn't God, then there's no trinity. If Jesus isn't God, there is no sacrifice for humankind that will absolve everyone of sin because he isn't God. You see the whole theology of Christianity crumbles and what remains is what Muslims and and and Christians agree upon. There's heaven and hell, right? You have to do good. You have to obey the creator. Have to worship God.

[00:22:18]>> There's one God.

[00:22:19]>> Yeah. This is what we agree on.

[00:22:21]>> We agree. We agree the Abrahamic God then.

[00:22:23]>> Absolutely. But the the God of the church of Christianity today is not that >> that trinity was God wor that we're having.

[00:22:32]>> Yeah. But was Abraham worshiping a trinity?

[00:22:35]Well, obviously not in Old Testament times, but Old Testament, that's where the Trinity comes.

[00:22:39]>> No, no. Did we We're talking about the God of Abraham. You were talking.

[00:22:42]>> Did Abraham worship a Trinity?

[00:22:44]>> No. He worshiped one God.

[00:22:45]>> Did Abraham think Jesus was God?

[00:22:48]>> Well, he made I think >> Did he say or think ever Jesus was God?

[00:22:52]There's no Jesus at that time. So, you have to say it.

[00:22:55]>> There was no Jesus that time. I think the prophets before knew that Jesus was coming and they made reference.

[00:22:59]>> Can Can you give me an example where Abraham says that Jesus is going to come as God?

[00:23:04]Okay. Abraham. Abraham. Abraham.

[00:23:07]>> Yes.

[00:23:08]>> I know. Isaiah.

[00:23:11]>> That's not Abraham. Yes.

[00:23:14]>> No. No. A Abraham. Isaiah is later on.

[00:23:17]Isaiah is later on. We're talking about Abraham because we're talking about the God of Abraham.

[00:23:20]>> Okay.

[00:23:21]>> You know the Bible the Bible says Abraham is the friend of God. So he was God's friend but he doesn't know God is the trinity. He doesn't know Jesus is God.

[00:23:28]>> Obviously he would know. Yeah.

[00:23:29]>> Okay. So he never said that. He says God is one only one. And he told people that God is the only one. So look look so we are worshiping the God of Abraham. But are you worshiping the God of Abraham is the question or are you associating a human being who never told you he was God. Jesus said when you pray he said our father in heaven. He didn't say me our father in heaven. Hal your name your kingdom come your will be. He's talking about God only. It's nothing about him.

[00:23:54]>> That's the Lord's prayer.

[00:23:55]>> Yeah. Yeah. So he tells you to worship God. The Lord. Who is the Lord? God in heaven. Not him. Right.

[00:24:00]>> I see. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And he fell like he fell on his face and he prayed all night in the garden of Gethsemane, right?

[00:24:06]>> Yes.

[00:24:07]>> Which God falls on his face and prostrates and humbles and humilates himself and he prays. Praying to who?

[00:24:12]Bro, you're God. You're not praying to anyone. He is in God. He's a messenger of God. That's why he shows humbleness and humility. And some people say he's teaching. No, he's not teaching. He said to the people stay. And he went alone and he prayed online. He's not teaching anybody. He already told them how to pray. Okay? So he cannot be God. So now the only thing left for you is Prophet Muhammad. What's stopping you from accepting Prophet Muhammad is also a messenger from God. We're not telling you to reject Jesus. Most people don't understand this. Explicitly in the Quran, we are commanded to believe in all of the messengers of God.

[00:24:45]Let me show you. Including if I don't believe in Jesus, I'm not a Muslim. He excommunicated from Islam.

[00:24:51]>> He's a He's a prophet.

[00:24:52]>> Yeah. Yeah. If I don't believe in Moses, I'm not a Muslim. If I don't believe in Abraham, I'm not a Muslim. I have to this is an article of faith where you have to believe in all the prophets of God Quran chapter 2 verse 1 136 say oh believers we're supposed to say right we believe in Allah and what has been revealed to us which is the Quran and what what has been revealed to Abraham Ishmael Isaac Jacob and the descendants right 12 children basically right and what was given to Moses Jesus and what was given to the prophets from their Lord we make no distinction between any of them and we are Muslims in submissions to God.

[00:25:29]>> This is our position, right? So, >> you're asking me why >> why not accept Prophet Muhammad as a prophet? Yeah. What What is stopping you from accepting that Prophet Muhammad is also a messenger of God like Moses, like Abraham, like Jesus, like everyone else?

[00:25:42]>> Why not?

[00:25:42]>> I see your point. But the thing is for me, I don't know much about like and Islam. Fair enough. Fair enough.

[00:25:48]>> I don't I don't have the right to say anything.

[00:25:50]>> Fair enough. I I respect that. I respect that. I'll give you the Quran as a cop as a gift, of course, for free. If you don't have it, give it a read and I'll give you my channel if you do. You have your phone?

[00:25:59]>> Yeah, sure. What's your channel?

[00:26:00]>> Yeah. Yeah. And then you can watch. I have so many conversations with priests to with like everybody everyday Christians and we talk about every old topics that you can think about, right?

[00:26:09]Okay.

[00:26:09]>> So, uh and I have videos where I talk about evidences for why Islam is the truth or prophet Muhammad. Right. So, you can learn about him. It's called the Muslim lantern. Muslim.

[00:26:17]>> Yes.

[00:26:19]Throw. Yeah.

[00:26:21]Hopefully, you don't fly away. Okay.

[00:26:23]Have a look. Uh, watch it and you're welcome to come back if you got any questions. You know, if you're over here, even if I'm not here, my my brothers with me.

[00:26:29]>> My first time in the UK, so >> Oh, really? Where you from?

[00:26:32]>> I'm from the United States.

[00:26:34]>> Oh, the US. Okay.

[00:26:35]>> I've been backpacking Europe.

[00:26:37]>> I usually think I'm I'm going to be honest, like even though we have all of these criticisms of the American government and all of the doing in the world and all the horrible things, >> I find many of the American people the most uh the nicest people actually cuz if I have this conversation with someone else, they'll be a lot less open-minded, I would say. Right. So, you're very open-minded, you're listening, you're respectful, and I really appreciate that. I'm not just saying that because you're American, you know, say that from my experience. I can see that a lot of Americans are a lot closer to the people, you know, they're a lot nicer.

[00:27:04]They're a lot more welcoming, a lot open, more open-minded, willing to have conversations. So, I really hope God guides you to the truth, you know, and yeah, if you got any questions, I said you're welcome to come back, you know, and welcome here, even though I'm a visitor, too, kind of, you know, I don't live here, but welcome, you know. I don't know what your experience, but yeah, hopefully you'll have fun, you know. Thank So nice meeting to you my friend.